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Dame Diana Rigg and her daughter Rachael Stirling will appear in the upcoming Season/Series of DOCTOR WHO.
Character details remain under wraps, but the episode penned by Mark Gatiss will see Dame Diana and Rachael recreate their off-screen relationship on-screen, as they play a mother and daughter with a dark secret.
...says THIS piece over at BBC. BBC indicates the duo's episode will be scripted by Mark Gatiss, who previously wrote DW Season/Series 5 and/or 6 episodes like Victory of the Daleks and Night Terrors, and is an Executive Producer/Writer alongside DW overboss Steven Moffat on the amazingly excellent SHERLOCK (on which he also appears as Sherlock's brother Mycroft).
Rigg is, perhaps, most famous for portraying the ass-kicking Emma Peel in the legendary AVENGERS television series...
...and for playing Teresa di Vicenzo, ill-fated wife to George Lazenby's James Bond, in ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE.
Stirling's extensive acting career has recently escalated to include high-profile fare like SALMON FISHING IN THE YEMEN and the slightly-dull-but-generally-quite-good SNOW WHITE AND THE HUNTSMAN.
No word on when DOCTOR WHO Season/Series 7 will debut, but indications...both official and otherwise...suggest it'll be rather soon. Asylum of the Daleks, the first episode of said new Season/Series, will premiere at BFI on August 14.
In on of TFD’s more memorable sequences involves the decimation of a Cyberman gang by a sinewy silver Raston Warrior Robot - a routing featuring ample impalings, a Cyberman barfing deathily, and even a sparking beheading for good measure.
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...as Merrick rightly says, it's a real greatest hits package, even chucking a Yeti in for good measure! Oh, and if The Moff is reading (as I know he does), we NEED the Raston Warrior Robot in the new series ASAP...
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I fully agree. I'd LOVE to see them do that gag with today's technology. It could be batshit crazy/scary/etc. all at once. So much potential for badassity.
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Just teasing Merrick (see your typo in the first paragraph) This story always had a special place for me. It was around the time I first started watching Doctor Who and it got me interested in see the previous incarnations. Luckily, my friends extra nerdy older brother had so many on VHS, I was able to just that. Makes you wonder if The Moff will try to do something similar for the 50th???
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July 6, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST
"If you move, Sarah Jane...we're DEAD" - Raston Warrior Robots RULE!!!! (Video)
by obijuanmartinez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6KqskRp89c
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July 6, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST
Borusa - Merrick, something you won't have appreciated because of the way you're skipping through the past...
by V'Shael
is that Borusa was the Doctors mentor, and had appeared several times in the show before this. He was the one recurring (somewhat) friendly face on Gallifrey. In particular in the Invasion of Time, where it looks like the Doctor is working for the Bad Guys, it's Borusa who becomes the audiences proxy. In his few appearances, he was played by a different actor each time if I remember rightly, and got progressively darker (one could argue) in each incarnation, until eventually arriving here where he's the villain of the piece.
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Colin Baker says he's out, Paul McGann reiterates that no one has said anything to him about it. Colin actually said that he'd appear and say one line, for a million quid. So he's out.
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I enjoy it for what it is -- an anniversary special meant to get the old actors back one more time. The story really isn't the point, and that is why it has many plot holes (not as bad as it could be, to be sure, but enough that if you stop to think, it doesn't work). What saves it is its ability to just give in and have fun.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz_83QDfzlc
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July 6, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST
I remember what an event this was when it originally broadcast
by Stegman84
Back then there was no repeats, and of course no dvd or downloads or home video releases or anything else of the sort, and Hell, the video boom hadn't even quite taken proper hold yet, so for most people with tv back in the day if you missed something, well, then as far as you were aware at the time that could very well be your only chance to see that show gone forever, because that's simply the way things were back then. Television was mostly shown once, then gone completely, and pretty much the only repeats we saw were from shows that were decades old (60's era american stuff mainly). Seems silly now, as we are all so spoiled for choice, and live in an age with a wealth of convenient viewing options, but those truly were the days of appointment viewing. Or, see it now or else. But as bad as those downsides were, it kind of made event tv like this or the original V miniseries or Live Aid or whatever all the more special. It almost felt as though you were watching a part of history, were a small part of it just by being there and seeing it, the excitement of the build up, the worry about getting to a tv in time to make sure you didn't miss anything, the fear of the all too common power blackouts, or inconvenient phone calls or knocks on the door. You didn't want to miss a minute because that was a minute you couldn't get back. It created an atmosphere around the event that just doesn't exist any longer. That kind of thing is gone from the world now...and there are times when I miss it. We now live in a world where we know too much ahead of time, even if we don't particularly want to, where missing something is no big deal, where there's a thousand other things vying for our attention...and overall it is a better world, certainly a more convenient one. But there are still times that I look back and think, those times were pretty great too sometimes, and that a taste of some of that old event tv magic would be a great thing to still have these days. As for the 25th Anniversary special, I'll always remember watching it with my father, as he explained to me who the other two Doctors were, as I grew up on late era Pertwee, Tom Baker, and Peter Davisdon, and how Hurndall was playing the first Doctor, but the guy in the intro clip was the real first Doctor, but the actor had died. I also remember being quite taken by Patrick Troughton (again, I don't think I had ever seen the Three Doctors at that point, as I had only seen the latter part of Pertwee's run), and being disappointed that Tom Baker was hardly in it (of course I didn't know it was just stock footage taken from Shada at the time). But still, as a kid it was a great bit of event tv, and even now it is a story that I very much enjoy, despite its shortfalls - Sarah Jane on the bank anyone?
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Though my initial encounter with this episode was the Target novelization, which treated the issue with the fourth doctor a bit more than the aired episodes. On the one hand, it is similar in many respects to a "clip show" style anniversary special, without (barring Tom Baker) resorting to clips. I would love to see the new series repeat the multiple Doctor's colliding (beyond the Davidson/Tennant special bit) - just based on how Tennant played his resistance to the regeneration, it would be very interesting to see him interact with Smith, and I would love to see Eccleston (sp?) return as well, however briefly.
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Amazing!
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So naturally it confused the hell out of me.
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There is a lot to love about this story and it is actually a great sampler of the different eras of the show (from an era where you couldn't just run to youtube or even a video store to get old clips/episodes to see the show's history). This was my first introduction to all the pre-Tom Baker Doctors. The opening Hartnell clip ("One day, I shall come back ...") had me completely hooked and welling up, even with not the slightest idea of the clip's original context. The sheer number of characters and cameos all thrown together is staggering and that it all actually snaps together as single story that actually feels worthy of the occassion is a very rare feat for an "event episode" to actually pull off. My only quibble (and the reason that I think some were left feeling a little let-down) is that you only get two scenes of different Doctors actually interacting - a brief encounter between the first and fifth, then the grand finale at the end after they've all travelled their own private adventures. The interaction is so good when it happens, that it left me wishing there could have been more of it. Getting to see the 2nd and 3rd Doctors sniping each other and the first doctor being a little ruthless and condescending really shows off both the differences and the continuity between all the incarnations. The escalation of adding the Master to the mix was very well handled - the unexpected entrance, the stunning offer the time lords make to him, the way you can see him trying to puzzle through what to do with unexpected situation he finds himself in. It cemented my love of chessboard-themed traps traps and the Brigadier's "Nice to see you again" line is hillarious. A few years ago, I watched The Five Doctors back-to-back with Star Trek TNG's "All Good Things" and I recommend this as a really interesting contrast in different ways of looking back at the evolution of a show.
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July 6, 2012, 12:02 p.m. CST
Loved loved loved the silver look of the Target novelization
by sunspot_mike
People say that multi-Doctor stories really aren't that great, but for some reason, I fucking love them. And it was awesome that this debuted on Chicago public television before it even did in the UK, because Doctor Who was taking off here (nothing like it is now, but it was at the height of it's US 20th century popularity because of all the Tom Baker reruns.) It was cool how Borusa turned out to be the villain after being just about the only sympathetic Gallifreyan besides the Doc, Romana, and Andred (and Drax, I guess.) Also, his punishment by Rassilon was suitably horrific (if the riddle was a little stupidly easy to figure out, even for a kid in the single digits.) Fun episode of Doctor Who's greatest hits, it's not one that I've gone back to watch regularly, but it always holds a special place in my heart.
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July 6, 2012, 12:21 p.m. CST
@stegman: Spot on. Very eloquent capture of the way these events used to be. Bravo!
by obijuanmartinez
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July 6, 2012, 12:24 p.m. CST
Here's a link to the slightly-spruced up version of 5 Docs they had released (has some CGI bits in)...
by obijuanmartinez
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9xy85_the-five-doctors-part1_shortfilms?search_algo=1
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You feel this story has plot holes? That's interesting because I never get that impression. If anything, it felt like everyone's motives and actions snapped together unusually well for a story with so many moving parts. The only conceit that seemed to be required was that different incarnations of the Doctor would not have their past incarnations' memories of the events ... and I bought into that immediately with the iceburg speech early on. I'm curious what bothered you.
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...but I prefer The Three Doctors. Something like that for the 50th would be my choice if you HAVE to do a multi doctor story...
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I would have loved to see Shada in its entirety, I think that had that series been completed, Doctor Who would have been different than it turned out without it. The partially filmed and unfinished Shada story was repurposed and retooled by Douglas Adams into the novel Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, for those who wish to read it.
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July 6, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST
I have the perfect 10 doctors story in my head (and they can be old and fat). The BBC should contact me.
by Angry Mike
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Do we even have any idea what sorts of ideas are even on the drawing board? I know we fans tend to imagine some 5-Doctors-style reunion, but given the complexity of all the negotiations, personalities and ages involved, I could easily see that idea end up being a non-starter.
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July 6, 2012, 12:55 p.m. CST
Has anyone seen the cover to the new 8th Doctor Audio Book?
by Michael_Jacksons_Ghost
On the cover, Paul's 8th Doctor outfit has been upgraded to the new outfit that WETA helped design. Very cool, makes me wonder if McGann has been contacted about returning to the live action universe, and he just is keeping quiet about it.
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Is it this one? http://onceuponageek.com/2010/11/02/paul-mcgann-doctor-who-new-outfit/ If so, what involvement did WETA have?
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Yeah, that is it right there. A couple of years back, McGann was doing a convention in New Zealand, and while there, WETA got with him about updating the 8th Doctor's outfit. WETA also designed a brand new Sonic Screwdriver for him as well. McGann has went on record at conventions saying that he disliked wearing a wig while playing the Doctor in the TV film, and WETA told McGann that the TV movie outfit wouln't be something that you would wear in a war. So, I am guessing that at some point during the Time War, the 8th Doctor cuts his hair, and updates to the new look.
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Shada was finally novelized this year by Gareth Roberts (a new series writer). They finally appeared in US bookstores last month. Haven't read my copy yet as it's still in the TBR pile, but Roberts wrote some wonderful Doctor Who novels back in the 90s. Should be good.
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So what we're saying here is that The Hobbit is actually just a cover story for the production of the 50th anniversary special, right? :) :) :)
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A couple of years ago when this story came out, I was wondering, "Why would WETA redesign the 8th Doctor's outfit?" The sonic screwdriver that WETA designed is amazing as well, it is the first one built with wooden grips. Makes me wonder if that sonic works on wood!?
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July 6, 2012, 1:36 p.m. CST
Well, with 6 and 9 definitely out, and 8 not contacted, and 1-3 dead...
by V'Shael
and 5 saying its unlikely he'd be asked back... The only one who said he'd do it, is Tom Baker. Bizarre, but imagine if the 50th anniversary was just Matt Smith and Tom Baker.
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July 6, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST
@v'shael: Great point on Borusa - If you haven't seen the character develop from "The Deadly Assassin" -> "Invasion of Time" -> "Arc of Infinity" -> "5 Docs", you're missing a fascinating arc that lends insight into the Doctor's past & views on the Timelo
by obijuanmartinez
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July 6, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
Well, WOULD any of the old actors have been asked yet?
by glenn_the_frog
Yes, the anniversary is next year, but... they're still filming year 49 for the next several months yet. The actual anniversary is 23 November, 2013 (I assume they'd aim for the day as close as possible then....) , then... wouldn't they not start filming that until really late this year/spring next year? Of course, pretty much all the old actors have said they don't want to come back, and several of them have died... An 11 Doctor reunion would be unwieldy anyway, but... Tennant at least loved the role and would probably be willing to come back... and Tom has said he would in a limited capacity (if nothing else to get people to stop asking why he didn't make it to the 20th anniversary... 30 years later.)
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They had him for the charity special after all. Sure that was only five minutes, and he'd clearly aged (which they accounted for) but they still had him back.
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While I enjoy The Five Doctors, it really doesn't deliver on what to me is the most enjoyable element of a multi-Doctor story, and that is the interplay between incarnations. I do enjoy the individual story threads, of coruse, because it's quite a treat seeing all those Doctor/companion reunions. Heck, I could watch an entire story that was just the Second Doctor and the Brigadier. In fact, I think I could watch an entire season of just those two.
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don't blink. hilarious!
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July 6, 2012, 5:21 p.m. CST
I would be fine with them recasting any of the classic doctors who are deceased or don't want to participate in 'the 11 doctors'
by Rebel Scumb
Troughton's son (a vet of multiple Who adventures himself) as the 2nd doctor Sean Pertwee stepping in for his Dad would work great for the 3rd doctor. If Peter Davison doesn't want to come back, use the guy who plays Matthew on DOWNTON ABBEY McGann is willing, and still young enough, I'm sure McCoy would be fine to Its a shame about eccelston, he's still new enough that recasting would seem weird, but seems unlikely he would change his mind about not coming back Tennant of course will do it. Maybe Rhys Ifan as Tom Baker?? And then get any of the old guys who DO want to come back, but are now too old to just play different characters in it,
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but put some more time and money into it then Dreamland and The Infinite Quest which were both headache inducing to watch, but then they just need the voices so could use most of the originals, plus even Eccelston might come back if all he had to do was show up at a recording studio
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There really are a lot. Too many to do in a post, so you can see it here: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Doctor_Who_television_discontinuity_and_plot_holes/The_Five_Doctors I've always thought that there must be a problem with temporal continuity when a Doctor meets himself, causing memory problems, explaining why he won't remember how things worked out when he meets himself (though there are indications he knows some aspects of it, as per commentary in other stories). And probably the biggest problems involve the Second Doctor... so much so created the need for 6B.
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July 6, 2012, 5:22 p.m. CST
Other option #2: Go the route Deep Space Nine did with the tribble episode
by Rebel Scumb
Have Matt Smith travel back into classic adventures.
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And I am surprised Colin would not. I think he would. I think he is just waiting to see what is given him before he does it. He doesn't want to automatically say he will, but wants the right script.
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Have the story all happen in black/white and have him wander through the lost stories, explaining something happened to his past that some of his key events have been destroyed and he has to fix things up again.
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maybe do a whole season, with each episode having the 11th doctor going into a different era of the show (for each of the 11 doctors) in a 'key to time' type saga. I still would be overjoyed with having all 11 doctors in one room though.
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http://www.atvtoday.co.uk/colin-baker-doubts-hell-return-to-doctor-who-4131/ Read between the lines. He doesn't think he will be asked, and he doesn't think he can do it if he is meant to look like the 6th Doctor from his tenure. However, there are all kinds of ways to deal with the actor looking different. And Colin really doesn't have to come back as the Doctor. He could come back as his original Doctor Who role!
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July 6, 2012, 6 p.m. CST
I have it. A cool way to bring back ANY Doctor Who wants to come back
by HornOrSilk
Somehow, the Time War runs amock (or something like it), and starts to go back into the Doctor's time-line. Various alternative versions of the Doctor meet up together, each version coming from one iteration of the Time War, where the Doctor in each did something drastic to end the Time War. For example, have the 7th Doctor's version be the version which made a deal with Davros.
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Good god he was bad. So very bad.
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He is a great Doctor. A great asset to the program history. The problem was not him, but things behind the scenes. His Doctor is something which was needed, and needs to be seen again.
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Very nice - the perfect way to do it. As for how to explain the aged actors … maybe they could be the original humans on whom the doctor based his incarnations a la Princess Astra …
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There *will* be surprises. There might even be the return of a certain Doctor whose number rhymes with plate. But you *didn't* hear that from me. *wink*
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July 6, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST
Colin Baker's tenure as the Doctor took place amidst a confluence of bad times at the BBC, bad scripts, and (arguably) one of the worst (if not THE worst) producers of the show: John Nathan-Turner. Let's face it - He was no Philip Hinchcliffe or Barry Let
by obijuanmartinez
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I'll give you that the second doctor's characterization requires a fair bit of rationalization - I'd forgotten about that because I didn't see The War Games until after the Five Doctors and so watched that story with the assuption already in my head that there must be a gap of unseen adventures in between losing his companions and regenerating. The rest of the items on that list feel like needless nitpicking - I feel that there are easy rationalizations sitting there to be picked up, so there's no need to assume they are errors.
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I've only seen bits and pieces of the 5 Docs. But I agree with you and dimensionsplural fully.. about the "badassity" of that bot. There's something off-putting about that thing's almost balletic poses. Very creepy. But the VERY brief Cybervomit just so takes the cake. I bet you almost anything that shot was originally much longer but was deemed too disturbing or gross to show on TV, so was shortened to almost not be shown at all. Can you see the Raston Bot vs The Weeping Angels? Would take some real thinking, but what a great defense against them! *blink* You look up and all that's left is an armless statue. Blink again.... no head. Blink once more... pile of rubble that appears very interested in menacing your ankles.
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to have a dimension where all of the various time lord's iterations exist as real people, living normal lives on some planet somewhere. It would explain some not being alive.... it would explain the ageing , and it could make for a VERY interesting story. Especially if there were another 10th/Rose couple in this other place, making the total pairings (some more intimate than others) of 10/Rose a nice round 3. One of them could be stalked by someone evil and the Doctor is tasked with protecting them all because he's not sure which is the one who is targeted. I know... cheap... a bit silly. But it would bring everyone together... as well as give Matt Smith another chance to play off Matt Smith(museum curator and amateur Milliner ), which is always a blast. There could even be an alternate Amy Pond (widowed, of course, only to find that Rory is actually still alive.. in the course of the adventure, which could make for a very funny moment). Just a thought. More of a RTD thought than a Moffat one... but there it is anyway.
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July 7, 2012, 12:19 a.m. CST
It could also be explained that Gallifrey is somehow tied into
by gotilk
this world and the Time War has caused strange events/happenings or lack thereof.
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July 7, 2012, 3:22 a.m. CST
With my Time War idea, no further need for explanations of how the Doctor turned out
by HornOrSilk
They just are older than we last saw them because they didn't regenerate; heck, if Colin doesn't mind, they could have the 6th Doctor become some sort of glutton to deal with the ramifications of his actions in the Time War.
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Their final scene *will* be emotional. And for *more* reasons than you'd think. There might even be some scenes with them *that* answer some old mysteries. Of course, you didn't hear this from me.
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They could explain it similar to how they did with Peter Davison, or if its a 5 doctors type scenario of the doctors being plucked out of their various times, just have it that the 'time-plucker' thing is more like a fax machine so making copies of the doctors to send into Matt Smith's time frame (thus no memory or time paradox issues), but the further back it goes the less accurate the copies come out, hence some of them being older, fatter or different actors
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July 7, 2012, 8:08 a.m. CST
In unrelated news - Both Hobbit films finished principal shooting yesterday...(link)
by obijuanmartinez
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151062342726558&set=a.10150238899061558.364437.141884481557&type=1&theater
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July 7, 2012, 8:10 a.m. CST
Stuck on Colin, Ep. 2: Colin Baker also had bad companions - Peri + Mel = Godawful. Nicola's melons couldn't salvage the near-constant whining & a dreadful American accent...
by obijuanmartinez
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July 7, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST
I'm still trying to figure out what the point was in Planet of Fire of heavily implying that Peri was abused by her step father
by Rebel Scumb
then never readdressing it There's that part where she has the nightmare/flashback of him locking her in a closet.
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They could borrow an idea from the old Virgin novels of the past Doctors living on in the Doctor's mind. It could be rationalized that his mental image of the older Doctors age as his physical body ages. There's also the possibility to work the Dream Lord into the story if you're setting some of it in the Doctor's mind. I'm on vacation now so won't be posting as much as normal this week - I borrowed my brother's iPad to check the forums today. The vacation gave me time to read Gareth Robert's Shada novel though - wonderful stuff! I highly recommend it. There's also a Doctor Who nod in Simon Green's latest novel, Live and Let Drood.
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July 7, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST
I just finished reading 'her fearful symmetry' by Audrey Neffenegger which also has some Dr. Who references
by Rebel Scumb
Specifically how Daleks navigate stairs, and a detailed description of the main characters watching 'the girl in the fireplace'
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For the 50th anniversary. Make is a mix of alt-Doctors, clone-Doctors, ganger-Doctors, etc....
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By a lucky quirk of geography, I had two independent sources of Doctor Who when I was growing up -- TV-Ontario and PBS (WXXI-Rochester). TVO kept up with current episodes, and WXXI ran the entire series end-to-end. When this story became available, TVO didn't have the budget for it, but WXXI blew the bankroll and picked it up for a special one-time airing (during Pledge Week, of course). It was awesome, even with the pledge breaks. As others have said, a real DW event.
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July 7, 2012, 4 p.m. CST
@tichrimo: Ah yes...PBS pledge breaks - the bane (well, one) of my adolescent existence...
by obijuanmartinez
Can remember the aggravation of having to slog through 20-minute interruptions between episodes of stuff like "The Five Doctors" when they would initially air. I recall at one point, we kids in the Philadelphia area were treated (via the wonders of cable TV) in the mid-80s to no less than THREE outlets playing classic Who: We had WHYY12, who'd play entire serials interrupted every Saturday afternoon around 3:00 (typically Tom Baker, but eventually roped in the Davison, then went back to Pertwee, THEN back to Hartnell / Troughton, up to Colin Baker, ending w/ McCoy), then there was WNJT23 from Jersey, who'd play entire serials each Saturday night @ 9:00; then we briefly had WLVT39 from Lehigh beaming in single (25 min) Classic Who episodes nightly in the 11:00 hour (can remember actually having battles w/ my dad over him shutting off the VCR b/c it would wake him when it would start to record at night!)
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It's been a long time since I've seen it and I was a bit disappointed that Tom Baker effectively wasn't in it but still enjoyed it. I've always liked the Master as someone who was the equal of the Doctor. We need more Raston Warrior robots. And that video of the kid talking to his future self was pretty cool.
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It was on right after 'Todays Special', a vivid memory of my very early childhood. After Todays' special, the 'scary music' would start, and that signified my bedtime. This was my entire exposure to Dr. Who until 2007
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Almost forgot to do that. But didn't. Again... ...Whotininnies?
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WTTW in Chicago was the station that ran The Five Doctors on the actual 20th anniversary (two days before the UK ran it). I watched it live, and taped it of course so I could re-watch it over and over. At the time we really hadn't seen much of the older Doctors, so it was great stuff. Also glad someone else mentioned the shiny cover of the Target novelization; I actually had that before the show aired. (It was released a week or two early, for some odd reason.) As for the 50th...I wouldn't take anything that any actor says right now seriously. The only ones we can be sure wouldn't appear are Hartnell, Troughton and Pertwee. Presumably it will be quite some time before anyone is officially approached, and who knows what these guys will say with actual contracts sitting in front of them. But that's assuming we're getting a multi-doc. I'm not convinced. They're great fanwank, but the general audience probably isn't as crazy about them, and vast gobs of viewers wouldn't know who most of these guys were. It's one thing to do a silly charity special like Time Crash; it's another to do actual episodes. If we DO get a multi-doc, I expect it's just Tennant, because (aside from the fact that he's the most recognizable of the previous Doctors) the other problem is that the more Doctors you add, the more you've got to find screen time for. None of them would be interested in cameos.
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At 5 ... Pertwee knowing the teeth and curls of his next incarnation. At 4 ... Troughton talking about the terrible Zodin and getting the Brigadiers timeline all screwed up. At 3 ... Sarah Jane falling down a slight hill, as if it was a cliff. At 2 ... Davison looking at Susan in a very un-grandfatherly way, but other than that, having no real reunion between Susan and anyone. At 1 ... The Easy As Pi chess board trap, had NO explanation, even in the novelisation. That's the laziest form of scripting.
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July 9, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST
@v'shael: GREAT list. I would pick a MINOR quibble w/ your #1: Doc #3 & Sarah met this exact same booby trap in the City of the Exxilons in "Death to the Daleks"...
by obijuanmartinez
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#5: I assumed, during my original viewing, that he simply picked up on Sarah's hand gestures. This is reinforced by Pertwee's tone of voice, a mixture of incredulity and slight horror. :) #4: Not sure I get this one. How does this screw up the Brig's timeline? #3: Yeah, that was awful. Mind you, from everything I've read, they more or less knew it would be. They tried to shoot it from angles, etc., but the classic show never had time/money for reshoots or anything. Still...it was awful. Made even funnier by Pertwee using Bessie to haul her up. #2: Yeah, agree, although my guess is that was a combination of lack of time and a general desire to not dive too deeply into the whole granddaughter thing. But yeah, you'd think the other Doctors would have said something to their grandchild. #1: Absolutely. Horrible. Inexcusable. I expect better from Uncle Terrance, even if he wasn't the original writer (Robert Holmes was) and had less time to write the script. Which might -- MIGHT -- be understandable, except it doesn't explain the novelization at all. Also, am I the only one who prefers the original version? The updated effects in the SE just look god-awful to me. They haven't aged well. Old CGI doesn't in general (and these updated effects were done in the late 90s, if I recall correctly; I remember one of the BBC Video guys talking about it on Usenet way back in the day); you can go watch early Babylon 5 to see this. I also don't think the "extra" scenes add much, either.
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Well, its been said in the show (more or less canonically) that they can't do that sort of thing - that the Doctors timeline has to remain more or less linear with respect to another person. River is the first example we've seen where that rule is not obeyed. Otherwise, the Brig could (but didn't) have told the Doctor stuff about his future. It's also why when 11 found out the Brig was dead, he couldn't just pop back into the Brigs past, and see him. I suppose you can explain it away by Troughton's line about how he's not breaking the laws of Time exactly, but he is bending them a little.
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It wasn't screwed up by Troughton in the Five Doctors, it had already been screwed up by Mawdryn Undead having him retire in 1977 when Sarah Jane had been from 1980 in Pyramids of Mars. No wonder Troughton wasn't getting the Brig's timeline right. Right now the best explanation for the Unit dating problem is that the Time Lords introduced a quantum indeterminacy in UNIT's chronology in order to keep Torchwood from finding and dealing with the PertweeDo tor while he was stuck on Earth.
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July 11, 2012, 6:36 a.m. CST
Must say it will be somewhat of a disappointment if at least 2 @ Docs and 2 @ departed companions don't appear in the 50th annv. story. (Pulling for McGann! He deserves another shot!)
by obijuanmartinez
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July 11, 2012, 6:37 a.m. CST
Must confess, it IS youthful nostalgia that largely informs my love of "The Five Doctors", and yet I still find stuff in it I like whenever I watch it...
by obijuanmartinez
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July 11, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST
I think Moffat's production team knows very well that the fans want to see McGann back.
by V'Shael
But we're already filming the episodes to be aired at the top of 2013. Which means we're not *that* far away from writing the episodes for the tail end of 2013. Which means they have had to have been broken down to be farmed out to various writers in Production meetings already. Anyone who read The Writers Tale knows how far in advance this work gets done. And Paul McGann has said that he still hasn't been asked about coming back. So don't get your hopes up kids - the 50th anniversary could be Dimensions In Time part 2. After all, Moffat did write Curse of the Fatal Death, which featured the Doctor and the Master communicating by farting at each other...
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July 12, 2012, 9:05 a.m. CST
Have people seen the pictures taken at shooting of Gatiss' episode? (spoilers)
by DoctorTom
It looks like the rumors about the return of Madame Vastra and Jenny are true. And, it looks like the joke Dan Starkey was making about having Strax or a clone brother show up again as a butler to them actually got Gatiss and/or Moffat going "that's actually pretty funny, let's do it". I haven't seen a picture yet that shows him with a little bowler perched on his head, but it wouldn't surprise me if it happened in the episode just to give Matt Smith hat envy.
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