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The Friday Docback Meets 'The Myth Makers'!! DOCTOR WHO Story #20, A New WHO Minisode Coming 5/24, DOCTOR WHO: THE ETERNITY CLOCK, More!!
At the Iceworld Space Trading Colony on Svartos, the seventh Doctor (Sylvester McCoy) and Mel (Bonnie Langford) unexpectedly encounter an old ‘friend.’ The penniless and desperate Sabalom Glitz (Tony Selby) has only one option to leave Svartos: find the fabled ‘Dragonfire’ treasure concealed somewhere in the depths of the planet.
Joined by Ace (Sophie Aldred), a teenage waitress with a love for explosives, the group ventures off to uncover lost riches. Little did they know that Kane (Edward Peel), Iceworld’s ruthlessly intimidating overlord, has murder on the mind and will not hesitate to do away with them in order to gain possession of the Dragonfire. Before long the Doctor finds himself playing a deadly game of cat and mouse with Kane’s mercenaries, descending through the ice caverns ever closer towards the deadly gaze of the monstrous dragon that lurks below.
The Myth Makers
“You shall die when I say so, and not a moment before...” - King Priam (Max Adrian)
The Myth Makers - Part 2: Small Prophet, Quick Return
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"Day of the Daleks" (Story #60) + Preview of the DotD Special Edition
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"Paradise Towers" (Story #145) + New WHOvian Documentary / Newsbits
"Dragonfire" (Story #147)
"The Happiness Patrol" (Story #149)
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is an awesome Hartnell hologram.
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I'd have thought that the Doctor Who minisode that's going to be shown on Blue Peter next week (I think it's next Friday) would have been worth a mention up top.
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It seems to be one of the more forgotten stories, despite a companion leaving. With some of these stories it seems that even with telesnaps and the audio, there is sometimes something in the video itself that helps a story out. With just the audio there's a few scenes like Merrick noted, and I'd love to see the actual video for that. The confused tone in this might be somewhat due to falling between Mission to the Unknown and the upcoming Dalek epic, with different people expecting different tones to be taken.
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The site is giving me major grief this morning...stuff disappearing...BP was mentioned but not displaying for some reason....working to resolve...
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I'm surprised to see my last post show up. When I hit the Post Your Talkback button I got a message saying the thread didn't exist, and in fact I didn't see this thread showing up for a few minutes after that. Maybe the thread activated its HADS in order to try to avoid the incoming post?
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from An Unearthly Child straight through to Battlefield(one of my favs),nearly every episode except for a few of Colin Bakers(i just cant watch him)
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May 18, 2012, 9:25 a.m. CST
I had a feeling that might be the issue Merrick, hope the site starts behaving
by DoctorTom
I don't expect it (unfortunately) but I'm hoping it will cooperate.
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May 18, 2012, 9:28 a.m. CST
Here's a link to the reconstruction version w/ stills, audio, etc.
by obijuanmartinez
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xn7jcx_the-myth-makers-part1-temple-of-secrets_shortfilms?search_algo=1
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May 18, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST
@doctom: Interesting ripple...In my morning commute installment of "Dalek Empire", who stumbles in, but Mark Gatiss!
by obijuanmartinez
Recognized his voice - Thanks again for the Big Finish tips!
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Just popping by to say hi, and that I'm not dead yet :) *waves* Can't watch videos at work, but did always like that Orbital video. How cool is that? Eh, that's all I got for now. Hope everyone's good :)
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Must be nifty having Gatiss on your morning commute. He didn't have Moff with him, did he? Oh, one more BF recommendation, since you bring up Gatiss. The Doctor Who Unbound story Sympathy for the Devil has David Warner as the Doctor. The premise for this one was the Doctor was exiled to 1997 Hong Kong instead of 1970's England after the War Games. The Earth has had 3 decades of alien invasions without the Doctor around to stop them. Nick Courtney's in this one as the Brigadier, Mark Gatiss is in it (though the credit for his part was Sam Kisgart - an anagram), and David Tennant was also in the audio as UNIT Colonel Brimmicombe-Wood.
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I know the no-videos-at-work problem; I'll just check out the posted videos this weekend at home. Hope you stick around!
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May 18, 2012, 10:17 a.m. CST
I think I sent you that vid back at the beginning of the month...
by dj_bollocks
Anyway I digress... Did anyone see the Tales From Television Centre programme on BBC Four last night... Brilliant show with contributions from Who alumni Peter Davison, Janet Fielding, Louise Jameson, Katy Manning, Brian Blessed and also featured a fantastic out take from Tom Baker and John Cleese from the set of City Of Death (dunno if it's been featured before - I hadn't seen it but it made me laugh out loud !) UK Docbackers can see more here... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01h266w and on the iPlayer here http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01h266w/Tales_of_Television_Centre/ Thoroughly recommended !
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Merrick, if you have time, seek out the Target novelization of The Myth Makers - it is one of the greatest Doctor Who books. It is written by Donald Cotton, but told in first person as if Homer himself is recounting the story. Brilliant stuff. Also - Vicki's last name is Pallister? Somehow, I never knew that...
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Which vid?
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May 18, 2012, 10:24 a.m. CST
Does anyone else still want to see an episode called "is there a doctor in the horse?"
by notspock2
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Thanks :) Slow day at work, so I have some time to poke around. Probably not going to happen too often, unfortunately... too many events and stuff in the summer, and slow days like this are few and far between lately. Now if only it could've coincided with some new Who :\
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Wyrdy - I'm doing a similar thing, as it happens, although my journey is a little more haphazard and dictated largely by what I can dig out of the asteroid field of user-unfriendliness that is iTunes. Any favourites so far? As for Colin Baker, I've just finished Mark of the Rani, which took me back. I remember liking C.Baker when I was younger for some reason (which sounds a bit hipster-ish in a 'I thought he was misunderstood before he was considered misunderstood even though I was six at the time' kind of way - sorry). So, it was interesting to revisit him. The episode is actually alright and pretty enjoyable. Plus, he's not such a miserable bastard in it - I like CB's line readings and intonations, and I can understand why he gained popularity through the audiobooks. One thing struck me though - a realisation I suppose: all this time I've thought that the Curse of Fatal Death was a spoof. But actually, it's basically a remake of Mark of the Rani. I metaphorically couldn't stop urinating on my trousers when the Doctor uttered the immortal "I'll explain later". Also, the Master was in fine panto form. He could almost have been played by Christopher Biggins. Almost.
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Donald Cotton did an excellent job on The Myth Makers. As much as I adore Terrance Dicks, he never strayed from the original scripts, while Cotton really tried something different with his. Also, see David Whitaker's version of The Crusaders. Ian even makes out with Barbara, which is something that NEVER happened onscreen.
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May 18, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST
Do people really want to see Dragonfire on the big screen?
by sunspot_mike
I guess any Doctor Who is better than no Doctor Who and the costume contest would be pretty fun.
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We need a new episode, STAT! It's still breathing, the latest iTunes reviews are good, and the fan base is solid, but I'm only getting a faint pulse. ....... thumpthump..... thumpthump....
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I do. Doesn't even have to deal with the actual Trojan horse at all. Many things could work, even a software Trojan in the story. But we DO need an episode with that title.
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Slightly cheesy.
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Okay, I'm pushing it there. Very cheddar.
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*DOCTOR!! ... Living stone, I presume?* Yep, nothin' but salty, pure goat cheese.
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You were missed.
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Sorry, couldn't get into it :\ And hyello gotlik :)
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Evening all, hope you are all well :) *waves at frozen*
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I was wondering if you were still checking the Docbacks :) Feels like old times, huh? Pre-Facebook, Skype, and holidays together in London and Chicago? ;)
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London? Dunno what ya mean ;)
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So it wouldn't have a retail date, it would just be up for download in the Playstation Store.
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You're correct...I was just adding a note about that into the article when you posted. Thanks for the insight!
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I think I remember reading something a while back, perhaps at TARDIS eruditorium, that Vicki's exit from the series was supposed to be during the Daleks' Masterplan (rather than what happens to Katerina) rather than in this serial. I have no idea whether that story has any validity in reality, or what the source of that idea is, but it makes you wonder how that might have affected subsequent Dr. Who lore...does anyone know whether this story is actually reputable or not?
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TARDIS Eruditorum does inded make that claim, but doesn't offer any real explaination. I would double-check to see if About Time gives any more details, but, alas, I'm at work right now, and most of my volumes of About Time are at home (except volume IV, which is my current workplace bathroom reading).
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Six is looking mighty attractive right about now. Who here has this series of books, and what do you think of them?
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key quote : "Of course the work, and the people I get to work with, has always been all the reward I need - a fact I'm very glad that Bafta has disregarded." http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/10249094 Well deserved.
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May 18, 2012, 6:47 p.m. CST
I'm still wondering if and how the 50th anniverary of Dr Who will tie in with the classic Doctors.
by Mark Williams
I really wouldn't mind seeing the 11th Doctor interacting with a holographic image of the Hartnell, Troughton or Pertwee era Doctors. It would be so much better than going THE 5 DOCTORS route again, and having another actor or actors playing the roles. I wouldnt mind also seeing alternate universe Doctors that havent regenerated yet. It would explain how an older Tom Baker was still the 4th Doctor.
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I've got all six extant volunmes, and have been working my way through. Currently, I'm a little past the mid-way point in volume four. I've read that there is a volume seven in the works, but I have no idea how far along it is. As with volume six and the revised volume three, Lawrence Miles is apparently not involved. I like the books. I find their tone at times a little snarky (and I oftenw ildly disagree with them about which stories are or are not particularly good), but they offer some interesting insights, and a lot of good background information.
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After forgetting the content of the musical*West Side Story* this week, Adam Mitchell, former companion of The Doctor's, succumbed to a brain infection that refused to respond to treatment after several flies entered the port into his brain during the second evening preview of the North London production. As several characters snapped their fingers multiple times while dancing menacingly toward each other, Adam realized it was too late anyway and tried to enjoy the remainder of the show with his mother(who had left his knit cap behind in the Hackney on accident). *Too many maggots had already begun their life cycle by the time Adam reached us. My habit of snapping my fingers when I forget the exact sequence of events during specific medical procedures didn't help matters, innit?* -- Dr Smith is quoted in Fortean/paranormal and fandom magazine *LINDA 2.0*. A service will be held in Mr Mitchell's honour at the *Fab Internet Cafe*, with a full meal, a wide selection of soft drinks, free wi-fi and several prominent Ice Sculptors all paid for in full by The Reunited Order of the Lost Sons of Mighty Jagrafess of the Holy Hadrojassic Maxarodenfoe. The Doctor is not expected to attend. He will be missed.
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On 1st May... Tis no matter... I'm not offended in the slightest fella ! But you really do have to check out that BBC Four doc... Brilliant... I've just done a youtube search - here's that out take - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA59ghHUzNQ
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You deserve it!
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Brilliant clip. City of Death has a lot of great funny moments, but that outtake takes the cake. (say that 3 times fast)
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Love the Cleese/Baker out-take. Both in their prime. Such a lovely little gag and it really wouldn't have worked for anyone else. As for the alternate universe where the Doc is still on his fourth incarnation - that's a very good idea. Even better if we can have Lalla Ward back again. OR Tom and Lalla could have been time-locked ever since the 5 doctors - they totter off that Shada punt shocked to find themselves decrepit and decide in the interests of getting it on to regenerate. Still too old, they do it again. 6 times in all - until the alternate universe Doc is in Tennant's body, and Romana looks like ... well, I'd vote for Carey Mulligan, but happily settle for Christina Chong (Lorna Bucket). To cover the lack of Eccleston, they could simply video the 9th doctor from behind while Romana says, ~oh, goodness, not another long nose. Do put some effort into it, Doctor, won't you?~
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I've heard this worked well for its time on the screen and is a popular one for those who remember seeing it. So I think it loses something without the right visual. I think the humor aspect of it shows some of the value of the tale, and the ending is, of course, good.
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May 19, 2012, 3:31 a.m. CST
I'm surprised no one mentioned Karen wanting in on Inspector Spacetime
by HornOrSilk
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Certainly, someone with Criminal Minds is a Doctor Who Fan. We saw it again this week: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m48i1zUhqx1r3tem7o1_500.jpg
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Helping out with a garage sale takes time, energy...
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Yeah, I watched that clip too. That would be amazing to see Amy Pond pop up on Inspector Spacetime. Welp, gotta run, before I run out of..... space.
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I picked them all up and enjoyed them. I'll agree that there's a snarky tone now and then, but it's a snarky tone I liked in there. As kanekofan said, Lawrence Miles backed out of the sixth one (figuring he'd lose the will to live if he had to watch the sixth and seventh Doctors again - more his words than mine), letting Tat Wood carry the ball on that one and on the revision/expansion of the third volume. There's usually an essay with each story, which can range from behind the scenes stuff to How Many Black Holes did the Time Lords have to tackling the UNIT Dating issue (or at least explaining all the problems). I heard there's supposed to be a seventh volume in the works, but there's also supposed to be a lot of other things in the works also at Mad Norwegian that haven't come out yet (such as Fluid Links, which was going to be Robert Smith? and Lard tackling the novels, presumably an expansion of the I, Who series - which I also recommend, since it covers all the Virgin Books, most of the EDAs and PDAs from BBC as well as tackling the earlier of the Big Finish audios and some Bernice Summerfield). Generally I've liked the Mad Norwegian Doctor Who releases. The Time Unincorporated volumes have some interesting essays in it (and I especially liked the volume that was just Lance Parkin). There was one thing about that series, though - originally they had promised a fourth volume about the spinoffs, but when the 3rd volume (dealing with the new series) came out they said that volume 3 would be the last. I'd still like a volume dealing with Torchwood, Sarah Jane, Bernice Summerfield and the other spinoffs - presumably it would include the novel and audio spinoffs as well as the RTD spinoffs. There's another series by Mad Norwegian which has the first volume out - Running Through Corridors (how can you resist that title?), which has Robert (Dalek) Shearman and Toby (Moths Ate My Doctor Who Scarf, host of many commentaries on the DW DVD's) Hadoke watching two Doctor Who episodes a day, commenting on them. God bless them for trying to do the Time Team thing that quickly, and I hope they don't give up. There is a similar work to About Time out for the new series - Who Is the Doctor by Graeme Burk and Robert Smith? (Robert uses the question mark at the end of his name - presumably it's silent like the 3 in Hen3ry.) I'm into the second season of the new series in that book now. It's not bad - I bought an electronic version of that one. Although it's okay, I think I prefer the About Time volumes (they seemed to suck me in more with their tone and with the essays). Of course, I might find that if they went back and did a Who Was The Doctor I might also enjoy those - there's plenty of room for other voices on this kind of thing.
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http://fans.marvel.com/agent_m/blog/2012/05/18/sherlocks_benedict_cumberbatch_and_steven_moffat_visit_marvel_comics Most likely just a friendly visit, but my inner geek is screaming: Put Moff and Cumberbach on a Dr. Strange movie, pronto! Benedict would be a great Dr. Strange, Moffat could write, and get someone like Tarsem to direct.
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The Docback has gotten quieter since I was last here...
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I think there are several things (time of year, old Doctor Who episodes few have seen/heard, etc)...
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May 19, 2012, 6:55 p.m. CST
Yes, frozen01, there should be a lot more posting once new episodes are out
by DoctorTom
Also, I don't know how many of the British fans went to the Kapow convention today. It's been slower the last few weeks, though.
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glad to see you back too! It could be some ulterior motives for the visit. The idea of Cumberbatch as Doctor Strange works (especially if Moffat gets to produce or write it, but I don't know how much time he'd have to do that). It's also possible that Marvel might be looking to put out Sherlock comics the way they're doing Steven King's Dark Tower or Orson Scott Card's Ender (or, for that matter, the Richard Castle graphic novels). It might be just an adaptation of the stories, or it might be new stories using Moffat and Gatiss' Sherlock. And, if that's what it is, I would applaud Marvel for actually going for the licensing there instead of pulling a CBS. If that deal happens, it could also lead to the amusing (to me, at least) situation where we get to see Marvel Comics mentioned on PBS as a sponsor of Masterpiece Mystery when they're showing Sherlock.
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Not one of the better stories unfortunately, now that my Nightmare of Eden has arrived, I can watch the entire Romana II storyline (I've only seen City of Death before)
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More specifically, the Ray Bradbury Award for Outstanding Dramatic Presentation. It's the first time for winning one of these - the awards are voted on by the Science Fiction Writers of America, so it's a group of professional writers and not just the general public voting on this one. Also, unlike the Hugo award now, the episode had to compete against movies as well as television episodes in order to win. Congratulations to Neil Gaiman, Steven Moffat and the others who made this possible!
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It was pretty spectacular here in the Sacramento valley. It's still live here: http://www.ustream.tv/star-gazers-eclipse It was fun watching the back yard get progressively darker and darker. It never got as dark as I expected it to however. I didn't expect my dogs to act strange, but they did. They both seemed uncomfortable and leery.
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Very deserved. Best episode of the series/season.
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I just got word that my copy's shipping. It's nice that they aren't putting a long wait between the US broadcast and the DVD release (2 days). Oh, for what it's worth, Masterpiece Mystery's supposed to be showing Zen with Rufus Sewell starting next week. I might end up watching that. Maybe the person playing Moriarty will be the next Master - he'd be good at it.
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Thanks for all of the info. Out of all of it, I am least familiar with this Bernice Summerfield character. Fascinating.
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...been out here in the UK for a while now, but it's reduced to £7.00, which made it a MUST BUY IMMEDIATELY product whilst trawling my local supermarket for produce. rewatching it, it loses absolutely NONE of its zing, with a scandal in belgravia being one of the very best things ever commited to television.
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Been a while, and been very busy (and also ill, but nothing too terrible!!) and I hope that you are all extremely fantastic! missed you guys a bunch- don't ever forget just how special you all are!! HOOOOOOOOORRRRNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!! My intellectual compadre!!! I hope that you and yours are in the very best of health- missed talking to you, matey!! Doctom, Frozen, gotilk, rebel, and ofcourse Merrick- ka-tet we are!!! travelling on the path of our own beams!!! Now I'm off to watch police academy 2- and yes, I am going to enjoy it!!! ;))
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Paul Cornell created her for the New Adventures as a companion for the 7th Doctor (the Doctor, Benny and Ace went around for a while, then Ace left). In audio form, The Shadow of the Scourge does a good job capturing the Doctor, Ace and Benny team, and this fall Big Finish is going to release an audio of Benny's first appearance in the books (Love and War). When Virgin lost the Doctor Who license, they used Benny as the focus for continuing the New Adventures. That's funny, it doesn't SEEM like it's been 20 years since she's been introduced...
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Good to see you back! We missed having you around. Hope you're doing well now!
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Whenever his name is mentioned a million puppies instantly die somewhere in the world. Interesting fact #2 - Lawrence enjoys the fact that a million puppies die when his name is mentioned. I just killed two million puppies telling you those two facts. I'll never be able to forgive myself.
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For their Ray Bradbury Award at the Nebulas for The Doctor's Wife! Very well deserved indeed, I'm sure you'll all agree.
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From the last Docback, the Christmas Special starts shooting this month. No rest for the wicked.
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James Bond. I'm in a real Bond mood and want to lock myself away in a room and watch them all from start to finish and not think about anything else at all. I blame the new Skyfall teaser and the announcement of the wonderful 22 disc blu ray set which I just pre-ordered earlier today. Sigh.
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Nice to see some familiar names amongst the usual Docbackers. I hope you all stick around, especially when the new mini-episode pops up on CBBC this Thursday (just in time for the next Docback - convenient eh?) with an Olympic theme. Exciting times ahead!
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If you miss it on Thursday on CBBC, it'll be repeated on Friday at 4.30pm on BBC1. Just thought I'd put that out there.
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The mini episode is the result of the Script to Screen competition that was held for primary school children aged 9-11, which was a great success last year.
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Sorry to hear you've been ill Sam, welcome back. And to frozen & shibs. It's been quiet all right ... Bumped into a new TV spot for Prometheus that features a ~new~ monster with - yep, you guessed it, great big ropy tentacles. It's a bit blue for a krynoid but otherwise I think Mr Chase would be all over it. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I24QUMglk3s and compare with our old friend at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V2SWYAgLkI Of course Seeds of Doom lacks the giant head. But I should think Ridley Scott would remember the Face of Evil, don't you agree?
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May 21, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST
And ... doesn't Noomi Rapace resemble the young Lis Sladen?
by veteran_of_mu
Weyland as Chase. Fifield as Scorby. Holloway as Keeler. David as Hargreaves ... The one missing piece would be the Doctor himself. Unless ... perhaps the Space Jockey ...
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oops, there's another million puppies. It also wouldn't surprise me that not only do the puppies die, but they're sacrificed by Faction Paradox operatives (possibly to power their equipment). I would guess that another fact (interesting or not) is that the Great Puppy Killer tends not to play well with others. Yet another fact would be that we won't expect him to be writing any stories for Steven Moffat, at least given his blog postings during Season 5. He did have a Benny audio a few years back for Big Finish. I don't know if he's alienated the people there yet. I'm half surprised he hasn't just tried writing a regular sf novel without the Who (or Bernice) trappings. He might do well there - for some reason I could see him putting out a book through Angry Robot.
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May 21, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST
Oh, I think I've found athe answer to my supposition about BF in the previous post.
by DoctorTom
I was just looking through the interview from years back with The Great Puppy Killer and saw what he's saying about Gary Russell. Now that Gary's back at Big Finish, that probably will keep the Puppy Killer from getting work there.
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.... about the origin of the name Dalek. Presumably to himself....... alone..... scared....... in a darkened room just off Battersea dogs home.....
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May 22, 2012, 2:23 a.m. CST
...and he's even recapping on things he wrote last year for those who didn't read them...
by sam jacksons wig
...so, presumably quite a few then. Those who wont read them this time around either, so he'll be forced to recap on the last recap....
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1) Playing tap zoo on your I phone on a bus whilst it rests in your lap and you're sitting at the back is not a good idea. 2) If your wife asks you "where is the polish?" after she's been cleaning for over an hour and is not in a very good mood, it is unwise to say "In Poland..." 3) Swearing EXTREMELY loudly in a primary school playground because you've barked your frigging shins whilst wrestling with your 11 year old daughters scooter that has become wedged INTO another childs scooter is frowned upon..... especially by the headmistress who is standing 10 feet away... 4) Playing tap zoo as per item 1, and saying what you believe to be under your breath "come on, give birth!!!!!" (to your white f'ing tiger cub) is an even worse idea. 5) Unblocking an outside drain, and re-filling it with vomit is counter productive. ahh....... the wig household...... :))
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.... looking forward to it already! Have been deliberately missing spoilers, but it was a bit difficult when AMY & RORY ARE LEAVING WHO was splashed over most major publications!!! And the new companion (forget her name- some soap star I believe) is another looker. Should be interesting come Christmas.
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on Number 2, the answer to your wife's question was definitely the first answer that came to mind. Number 3 reminds me of the Robin Williams sketch where he swears and his 3 year old picks up the word and keeps using it. As for the season 7 trailer - was that the one that showed at the Doctor Who convention a bit back, or have they put out a newer S7 trailer?
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Don't worry, you haven't missed anything. I'm sure someone here would post a link if anything like that popped up.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fztxm4W3iAM Just think, we're not too far away from something like this being official and popping up before Eastenders, or after Would I Lie To You?
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Random remark #2 made me chuckle. We've all been there, haven't we? It's awful when words just fall out of your mouth that haven't been given clearance by your brain, especially when Woman_Of_Vertue is around, which is usually the *only* time it happens. Typical.
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May 22, 2012, 10:07 a.m. CST
Mr L Miles - A man whose mistakes we can all learn from
by Mister Vertue
If only he'd just let go of the past, drop the pettiness and bitterness, and move on in life. He has so much negativity festering inside and he could be doing things that are creatively original and positive, instead of focusing on the work of others and ripping them to shreds. It's not nice to see but he's beyond help at this point. People have tried to get this through to him, but he refuses to accept the cards that have been dealt to him by life. Such a shame that all of this is being played out on the internet for all to see. The sad thing is, if he'd had a bit more dignity, humility and class, I very much doubt he'd be in the position he's in right now and actually doing the creative work he's always wanted to do. A prime example of not being very nice to the people you pass on the way up the ladder and then having to meet them again on the way back down.
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May 22, 2012, 4:42 p.m. CST
doctom- nope, it's the one with the fucked up cowboy....
by sam jacksons wig
... I am a bit behind, and was intending to avoid all spoilers going into the new series, but the trailer was a dish too saucy not to eat!! I can tell you that the wifey was not at all impressed by my remarks, especially as my eldest had fucked up her clean kitchen sink about 2 minutes before hand by emptying a scabby looking ancient cup of tea into it and refusing to force the gunge down the plughole. As for the tap zoo erm...... unpleasantness... it seriously looked as if I were masturbating frantically at the back of the bus. One woman kept forcing herself not to look. I had a crazed look on my face trying to manage that bastard zoo and nothing else mattered. Removing the phone from my groinal area would probably have been a good idea.....
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...I think I just needed a bit of a break for a while to get my head back in the game. Missed the place in absolute truth, and posted once or twice but couldn't bring myself to get back into it full time, if you know what I mean. Alot of things have changed for me, and I am in a far better place after a bit of a rough patch. Glad to see that you're still here- the place wouldn't be the same without you!!
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May 22, 2012, 4:48 p.m. CST
if he'd had a bit more dignity, humility and class- those aren't words I associate with Mr Miles....
by sam jacksons wig
...twat is probably one of them.
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... do you promise to put your foot in it at every frigging opportunity and to speak without thought, even though you realise that you will get the silent treatment for a couple of days??? It's certainly not the worst thing I've said to her. She was watching a programme called "10 years younger" (or something like that), in which two women are subjected to riddicule about their appearance before one goes under the knife and the other gets plastered in make up. My wife then said " hmmmm- I wonder what it would take to make me look 10 years younger?" "About 20 pints......" was the worst answer I could have possibly given... and did. I am still married....... how I have NO fucking idea. :))
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Kinda cool how it featured clips from right across the shows history and tied them together. You know I'm jealous of those schoolkids who get to write a mini episode, really wish they would have a version for adults ! Whilst were on the subject of Dr Who related creative endevours I've finished my song inspired by the end of the last series....you know..the question... I've deliberately kept it subtle so it can be appreciated by non-fans of the show ( and I don't get into any bother ! ) but hopefully some of the Docbackers may enjoy it. http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_13328320
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.... did you write and arrange all of the music yourself, or did you sample and mix?
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May 23, 2012, 2:19 a.m. CST
@Cosmic & The Real Question - The Only Question That Really Matters To Docbackers
by veteran_of_mu
Very Cool Cosmic Dolphin! Though ... there are non-fans of the show? Anyway, now that some of our old crew are back on board, I want to raise a really important question of my own. Not ~Doc. Tor. Who?~. Something more basic. I mean a burning question that's hidden in plain sight right here on the Docback. The only question that really matters to us at this point in time when there's no weekly episodes to sustain us and we just have to wait and trust. I know I ought to trust. My original dislike of the first Sherlock episode came from failing to trust. Once I just decided to trust the Moff and look - really, look - I found the clue easily enough. And of course I loved it. And loved that the gaff hadn't been blown by some easy answer, that the solution was always there and I'd just really had to do the Sherlockian work. Made me feel much closer to the show and its auteurs. But ... that bit of ~gibberish~ in the Doctor's Wife. I didn't buy that it's gibberish. I mean, yes, I've run it backwards, forwards, upside down, analyzed the signal and got nothing. It has been, at a minimum, reversed. But that's not the problem. The problem is that the Moff declared officially it is gibberish. For no other reason than that he wanted to throw in a bit more mystery. He just plonked in a bit of nonsense to tweak the true obsessives like ... well, like me. And maybe you. Yes, it's a long game. Okay, we can live with that. We can live with a long delay in the long game too. But think about it. All these pieces floating around incomplete. How long is the game? Is it possible that even the Moff can bring all this in to land? And do it with a bunch of no-continuity disconnected episodes in S7? Or ... is it all going to come to gibberish? I mean if the Moff just turned around and said, what, you really thought there was an Answer at Trenzalore to the Question? Come along Whovians, you know it's fantasy-wantasy, never was supposed to add up, it's just a kid's show ... you might as well ask what Teletubbies means. It's all Wibbly Wobbly Pinky Winky ... So this is my question for you all. Search your soul. Do you trust that all this is really going to pay off? Or don't you? To put it in the new vernacular ... Mof. Fat. Who?
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Thanks for the listen. Yeah just a hobby really but it was all written by me. I played the acoustic guitars and did the vocals , synths , etc and got a few mates in to play electric guitar, live drums and backing vocals. I think the only samples are the heavy drum loop, and there's a backwards type synth sample in the bridge I did the mix & production side of it too. Glad you like it anyway, I might give it another plug when the show airs again and the threads are busier. It's part of an album I'm doing, it was quite a good jumping off point actually to do something a bit darker than normal. I've nicknamed it the Dark Dolphin Project for now but it'll probably take a year or more to finish and then I'll get a few copies pressed up and put it out on Itunes etc and do some promotion.
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..... if there was one thing that the mixed bag of season 6 taught me, it was this: Never over-think things. Perversely, I do honestly believe that a good proportion of the fans knew that River Song was destined to kill the doctor all the way back in season 5 after they stepped off the byzantium. But just because it seemed so and was the most obvious answer to the riddle, us Who-vians who do like a mystery looked elsewhere for the answers, and after all of our theorising found that the actual reveal fell completely flat as nothing could have lived up to our own fevered expectations. The same can be said of River as Amys mum; we knew and we disregarded for more fanciful theories as the obvious just doesn't seem palatable enough. I could go on and on and on, but thankfully wont. And there-in lies the beauty of Who and the Moff- it gets you thinking, and I have rarely come across a show that allows you to do just that. Moff presents it to you, HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT if you will, and says-"okay, start your engines guys!!!" What we do with it after that is up to us. So, do I think the sounds were gibberish? Yup. Do I think that on the plains of Trenzalore the question will be asked and answered? Yup. But prepare for a couple of swerves along the way- the rebel flesh proved that and took our fucking breath away! SJW :)) p.s- good to speak to you again my friend!!
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Probably just not the way we expect it. Right now, just based on what we've been given, all we know is that on the fields of Trenzalore the question must be answered truthfully. I think I see the loophole right now. I fully expect River to also be at the fields of Trenzalore and would not be surprised that if the question Doc.Tor.Who? gets asked, she ends up giving the answer. It will be who the Doctor is to her. Some people might see this as a cop out on the whole thing, but if they go this way it would actually be revealing some truths about River and her actual feelings about the Doctor. The emotional resonance with that would most likely make it okay without having to necessarily have the Doctor do an infodump on his past. Of course, I give it a 50% chance that even if River pipes in to try to interrupt, the Doctor gives his answer anyway. Maybe we'll see the universe cracking at that point, the Time Lords, Daleks, Omega and all the rest come back, and the Order of the Silence has to step in to try to contain the damage - with the Master's and/or the Dream Lord/Valeyard's help. We're close to a year away on this, though, since it will be the tail end of Season 7 if not punted back past that into late 2013 (for the 50th anniversary special). We'll have plenty of stuff to watch before that.
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May 23, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST
Pertwee-era Music fans (all 3 of you): REJOICE, for today is Robert Moog's 78th birthday, and Google has...
by obijuanmartinez
...a great synth mock-up that will have you trilling Roger Delgado's "Master" theme til the cows come home! (You can even record your ditty - NEAT-O...) http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=ww
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already been playing with it! unfortunately not pertwee stuff, but trying to re-create 70's Rush....
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May 23, 2012, 6:50 p.m. CST
@sam's wig: Sweet! Cygnus X-1, Book II, 1st Movement - GO!!!
by obijuanmartinez
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Xanadu......
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...hope you got your Taurus pedals! I had a hybrid of Neil's 'Hemispheres' & 'Exit Stage Left' drum kits in my parents' basement during my college undergrad years, complete with temple blocks, bells, gong, bell-tree, chimes, timbales, crotales, and glockenspiel - RIDICULOUS! Sold most of it in pieces. I'm actually phasing down my last acoustic kit (a double-bass monstrosity that's based mostly on Terry Bozzio's Zappa years & Bruford's King Crimson era) to a much smaller, fully electronic rig. Nightmare, but necessary, now that I just lost my man cave to my daughter (to make way for the next kid I have coming in August). Anyway, I took my 12 & 16 y/o nephews to see the Rush / Time Machine tour last year (the one where they played 'Moving Pictures' in its entirety for the 2nd act), and they were shocked to see me (and a zillion other drummers in the crowd) air-drumming for the entire show...
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Overall it seems like they're going out of their way to get the established authors in writing the (deluxe size) Doctor Who novels. This is a good thing. I just saw this posted over at the Doctor Who News page. Baxter's story will be with the 2nd Doctor.
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