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The Friday Docback Basks In The Glow Of 'Dragonfire'!! DOCTOR WHO Story #147, A Report From Last Weekend's BBC Home Entertainment/Alamo Drafthouse, Aint It Cool News 'Daemons' Screening, A Preview Of Season/Series 7 Daleks, More!
I worked as a waitress in a fast food cafe. Day in, day out, same boring routine. Same boring life. It was all wrong. It didn’t feel like me that was doing it at all. I felt like I’d fallen from another planet, and landed in this strange girl’s body. But it wasn’t me at all. I was meant to be somewhere else. Each night, I’d walk home and I’d look up at the stars through the gaps in the clouds - and I’d try to imagine where I really came from. I dreamed that, one day, everything would come right. I’d be carried off back home, back to my real mum and dad. Then it actually happened...I ended up here. Ended up working as a waitress again. Only this time, I couldn’t dream about going nowhere else. There wasn’t nowhere else to go.” - Ace, “Dragonfire” Part Two
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This time I might get all 11 ...
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Looking good ... but probably going to get me banned if I don't add some text ...
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Last time I only got 2 of them ... 4 is good going ...
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Hope I spelled that right or I'm going to look awfully silly ...
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I wonder if I should do some kind of hiatus after the next one ...
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Really I think he would have been my favourite. There has to be some way to get the movie made about him ...
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Almost there ... almost there ...
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Run!
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Okay, so I spammed the Docback. Spam is cool now.
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He's got to be in there somewhere. And since it makes a tiny amount of sense for him to be 10's clone ... oh, hey, I guess we have more coming ...
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The ultimate Doctor. Remembers all his incarnations. Which is to say, almost certainly, the Valeyard.
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Knew I was leaving some more out ...
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Now what was the name of the bloke after Grant ... oh yeah ...
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And then ... and then ...
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Hooray! I got 'em all!
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Well, if you're counting the Valeyard...
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Hartnell's stand-in from The Five Doctors.
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Nevertheless, yes, I guess Jayston has to be in there. And, I think, Jones ...
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Ray would have been a better companion than Ace, along with the silly stuff surrounding how Ace came to be with the Doctor. You can tell the deal with Mel leaving was tacked on the end of this story at a late stage. Aside from the literal cliffhanger this was a good story.
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Maniacal laugh
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May 4, 2012, 8:25 a.m. CST
Seriously? I thought spamming that sort of puerile shit wasn't allowed...
by V'Shael
Oh well. Colour me mistaken.
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George Gallaccio (Production Unit Manager), Robert Holmes (script editor), Graeme Harper (production assistant), Douglas Camfield (director), Philip Hinchcliffe (producer), Christopher Baker (production assistant), Robert Banks Stewart (writer), and Christopher Barry (director). And that's got to be a wonderful way to win bar bets at conventions: "How many actors with the last name Baker have played the Doctor?"
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May 4, 2012, 8:28 a.m. CST
Guilty as charged, v'shael. I throw myself on the mercy of Merrick.
by veteran_of_mu
This could get ugly ...
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It was around the time that watching the show became virtually impossible, as the parenthese controlled the telly those nights, and they felt that Who wasn't worth 30 minutes of my time. It was rare to get a chance to watch it. I remember figuring out that this new kid Ace was either going to be the new companion, or she was gonna be killed in the final episode. In those days, there may have been tabloid news stories about cast replacements, but I was a nipper who never read a newspaper. When Bonnie Langford was going, I was torn between shouting for joy, and actually surprisingly getting caught up in the scene. If she and her Doctor(s) had been given that level of material to work with in the past, maybe I wouldn't have hated her presence so much.
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I'll have to make more detailed comments later - work beckons at me now with its authoritarian club.
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Hartnell's imitator from The Five Doctors. Just to make certain ...
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Hmmmmm...
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Terry Walsh - he has doubled for Pertwee and Tom Baker, most notably handling a lot of the battle in The Sontaran Experiment when Baker had broken his collarbone. (Yes, I agree that we shouldn't be spamming the list like that any more. But, if people want a complete list of Doctors, let's make sure the list is completely complete, instead of incompletely complete. ;) )
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is that wrong? I liked McCoys doctor as well..... much better than Colin Baker
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Ironically, this story seemed to be a highlight for Season 24. Oh, how low the bar was set. It seemed like, despite the cliffhanger for episode 1, Doctor Who was starting to claw its way out of the morass that it had sunk into. Getting an episode that seemed okay seemed a victory for that year. To be fair, though, a lot of the issues for the year seemed to be production issues as much as or more than script issues (the cliffhanger in this story made sense in the script, but wasn't set up right in the studio). Of course, with that last statement I have to say that in the case of Time and the Rani it all started at the script and nothing in the production could really overcome it. I think there was a massed Huzzah! let out by fandom when Mel left, but she did get one of the better leaving scenes in the series. Not as good as others - I suspect that the best companion's leaving bit would be either Ian and Barbara, or (more cynically) Adric, but people's mileage may vary on this one. (I would say the other contenders would be Susan, Jamie and Zoe, Jo, Sarah Jane, Rose (season 2, not the season 4 bit) and Donna. I suspect that we are going to end up with the Ponds in contention for best leaving after this year.) Still, at least they didn't have her suddenly wanting to get married to Glitz (*cough* Leela) or just wandering off during the middle of a story (*cough* Dodo *cough cough*)
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For the old show, Ace was my favorite post-Leela-or-Romana companion. And for that matter, one of my favorites pre-Sarah Jane (though I'll match the original crew or Jamie as a companion. Now, there would be a match - the Doctor running around with Jamie and Ace. It's a shame we didn't get this as a story, Jamie having to be the voice of restraint for Ace...)
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Then please explain it here for us, and put a 25 year old mystery to bed.
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I agree 100% with your assessment re: S24 and Dragonfire. It really did seem like a glimmer of hope for better episodes to come, didn't it? Oh, and when you talk about Leela suddenly getting married, don't forget Peri as well. :)
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in the script, the Doctor had reached a dead end to the passage, and had to lower himself down to be able to continue moving. It didn't come across this way on the screen, it seems more like he just came up with the idea out of the blue that he wanted to dangle from his umbrella instead of walking down a pathway.
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I didn't think she was special, and I thought the story of how she got there just was poorly done. I still wince at some of the things we see Ace doing in it in comparison to other stories...
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Always wanted to see a Ace/Jack Harkness adventure. Also, cool Beatles picture.
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...the jewel in season 24's crown. Or, more accurately, the sweetcorn in the the turd that was season 24. I actually really like Dragonfire, it dropped the pantomime shitness and hammy scripting of the other S24 stories, and actually dared to have such things as action, pace and a decent monster. Plus Ace was fit and we got shot of Bonnie bleeding Langford. Result!!!
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May 4, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST
That really does look like Matt Smith with the Beatles! LOL, good job to whoever found that photo.
by Mark Williams
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Plenty of fake Beatles out there; you find the right story, and it would be a hoot... Ah - there you go - Beatles come to America, 1964. Then, pull an Attack of the Killer Tomatoes with The Silence with their -Wooos- in I wanna Hold Your Hand... OK. I've amused myself now...
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a match up with (it has been mentioned before) Hunter S. Thompson. Bat Country indeed.
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Always thought that was a really cool change to the Daleks, and I was disappointed that they didn't go further with having more specialized types of Dalek. Could have made them much more interesting. I recall Dr Who magazine having a comic (Emperor of the Daleks, I believe) that detailed how Davros obtained his renegade Dalek army (got them from Spiridon[!] with some help from The Doctor). In it, they had a "psyche Dalek" which was essentially a giant brain in a glass bulb mounted on a Dalek chassis. Not the most practical design, but it was a nice change.
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My heart left the original series in the Colin Baker's unfortunte first episode and never really returned. I liked Sylvester McCoy a lot as an actor, but when it came to the show as a whole, my eye was never as forgiving in his time as it might have been when I was younger. As a result, Dragonfire was one of those stories that I just couldn't look at without cringing (I actually don't remember the plot at all, just my pained reactions while trying to watch a tape a few years after having missed the original broadcast).
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...was like "light at the end of the tunnel" at the end of a dreadful season. Thanks for the video!
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Edmond Warwick stood-in as the Doctor when Hartnell was away having a rest cure. Also played Darrius in The Chase - yet another instance where the Doctor took a body from someone he met was going to meet.
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May 5, 2012, 2:38 a.m. CST
So, staying away from the Daleks lasted about 5 minutes ... an early appearance means they will probably be involved in the finale ...
by GINGE_MUPPET
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May 5, 2012, 4:27 a.m. CST
Where was the photo found and all? What's the history of it
by HornOrSilk
Does anyone know? It looks photoshopped to me...
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May 5, 2012, 5:14 a.m. CST
While that photo would be cool if it were an eerie coincidence or even real...
by tangcameo
But after the first few seconds I realized they just have Matt (and a stack of chairs) sitting in front of a really big photo of John and George. Then they took the photo with an old camera.
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The Beatles road manager Neil Aspinal...
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Neil Aspinal is just a former alias of Matt Smith...there is a reason he was so perfect for the Doctor :P LOL...love that photo...and yes, I have been away a while, sorry.
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Especially that moment with the guard. Hilarious. And we're introduced to spunky Ace, who I love quite a bit. I'll be getting the restored DVD. The effects were hit and miss, weren't they? But when they got it right, many shots looked pretty amazing.
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SO good to see you again. How are things?
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Hallo! Just a quick reminder that series 2 of Sherlock airs tonight in the States on PBS. Not sure what time it's on, so check your local listings. Support the show in the States and you may just get a shorter wait time next year...
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I thought that the original went a full 90 minutes. They had interruptions last night for their regular Masterpiece Mystery credits and the intro by Cumming (?) and still finished 5 minutes or so before I expected it to. I'll have to go back and check the timing on the original.
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Sadly, due to a shorter time slot on PBS, cuts had to be made to the show. PBS didn't cut the show though, the makers of Sherlock decided what to cut out to fit with PBS's time slot. The full version will be made available to buy at a later date though. Hope it didn't affect your enjoyment of the show too much!
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It didn't affect my enjoyment, I was just puzzled. I saw the episodes originally in January *cough cough* and thought the time looked a bit different, but couldn't remember what had been in there originally that got cut. As long as it's the original versions that come out on the DVD later this month, it's all fine.
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On PBS. It was fantastic. Mostly because I was having so much fun thinking about all of the new fans being created in that moment.
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For my part, sorry I've been away. Love you all.
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Love you too!
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I've got the blu preordered.
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May 7, 2012, 10:38 p.m. CST
50 Today! To celebrate, a birthday HAT on where the Doctor's bodies come from!
by veteran_of_mu
Yes, it is true, I am one of the vanishing few who can truthfully claim to be older than The Doctor. As to the HAT, consider the situation in Time and Space but situate the exterior of the TARDIS so that its door opened directly onto the interior's egress. Of course the doors might get in the way but happily they both open inwards and outwards. So opening the left in and the right out means it is possible for someone to walk directly through from one side to the other. BUT the inside/outside mapping results in a curious inversion. From the point of view of an independent inhabitant of the machine, the person making the transition has just been reflected - right to left, left to right. Now we need merely perform some nanoscale surgery to saw the person down the middle and glue two of the halves together - voila, two hearts! Of course the surgery has to be a little more drastic than that - peoples' guts are startlingly asymmetrical - but if we get this far the rest is comparatively easy to do. And since we get two left-over halves we can glue them back together with no hearts. Well, an artificial heart and leftovers. Plonk them back wherever you got 'em from and few would be the wiser.
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May 8, 2012, 9:37 a.m. CST
Okay, don't all go hip hip hooray at once. Here's a Time-riddle.
by veteran_of_mu
Now imagine the kissing doors with a time differential and a future person walks back into their own past. Now there are 2, they walk back into the future. Then close the doors and wait out the time differential. Question: how did those 2 people get into that TARDIS when a moment before there were 0 people in that TARDIS.
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those 2 people get into the TARDIS through the door, just like any other time that someone gets into the TARDIS when there's nobody in the TARDIS before they end.
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Now the 2 open the doors and walk into the earlier TARDIS. Sit there flirting with each other and lose track of time until the time differential is exhausted and don't go through the doors again. What happens?
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http://tinyurl.com/7msbsoe I found it to be very nice. Hope you are all having a great week.
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talk about a coincidence. Wow.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/tv-column/post/sherlock-premiere-scores-high-ratings-still-no-match-for-downton-abbey/2012/05/07/gIQAZofw8T_blog.html I assume you're all aware of this, but if you're not, please read the article! It all got a bit silly in the end...
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I 'enjoyed' that birthday last year and I hope you had as much 'fun' as I did!
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I always find myself wanting to say Cummerbund for Benedict's last name, though I hadn't felt any need to change the first name to Bandersnatch. I certainly can't blame him for what he said to the Masterpiece person. And, to be fair to Benedict, I don't see CBS rushing out to make a thinly veiled ripoff of Downtown Abbey despite its getting a Golden Globe.
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The 2012 MediaGuardian Edinburgh International Television Festival takes place over the 23-25th August, and will include an exclusive screening of the premier episode of the seventh full series of modern Doctor Who for delegates at the event. I would suspect that it wouldn't be that much later after that for the episode to show on the air, so we're probably looking at a start date sometime in September. That gives them plenty of time to show the first 5 episodes and put out a DVD for the first part of the season in November for holiday sales.
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Using the MediaGuardian Edinburgh International Television Festival as a guide, I think you're probably right about the start date for series 7. Hasn't the time flown by? Before we know it, the opening episode will be but a memory...
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1 chance in 12 yours was November of last year. Wildly improbable, nothing to it, bad form to ask, move along ... Actually it was a pretty good day. Last year I bit the bullet and finally dropped a couple family members whose roles in my life had for decades consisted of nothing but stress induction. So 50 was a quiet, gentle birthday. In outrageously good health (thanks, LDN), business good and getting better, and feel like I'm getting that burst of neuron growth that's supposed to accompany the age. But ... well in face in real life I do wear a hat. I got wedded to it the couple of years I lived in the rainforest. You don't mind being wet in a rainforest, you see - it's always misting down - but you don't want it running into your eyes. And then when it's sunny it's fierce so you want something to keep it off, etc. My old Akubra was purchased from Strand Hatters in Sydney 20 years back so naturally when it developed holes in the peak I went there for a replacement. After a few months it arrived and I went to get it shaped and the salesman asked politely how old my old hat was. And when I told him he said the new one should last at least that long - how old would I be when I came in to replace it? And then I felt 50.
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Given the sheer number and different styles of Daleks in it, and going for a pun based off an earlier story's title, I think it would be amusing if they called the story Density of the Daleks.
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