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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes pic!
My timing is a bit off, as usual. Today is Alfred Hitchcock’s birthday and I went and ran the Vertigo picture yesterday. I had no idea his birthday was coming up or I would have timed that better.
And it’s Friday the 13th and here I’m saving all my Tom Savini pics for October!
But that’s okay. Time for some monkey business, instead! Planet of the Apes is such rife material for this column. Pretty much any of the lead apes doing anything on set make for awesome BTS images.
Case in point, Kim Hunter posing with the camera. Yesterday it was Kim Novak, now it’s Kim Hunter. It’s a celebration of Kims!
It’s a great testament to John Chambers and Dan Striepeke’s make-up work. It’s iconic, it’s cool and even in a non-lit goof off pic like the one featured below it looks amazing.
Here’s the pic (click for a slightly bigger version):
If you have a pic you think should be included email me. I’m looking for the iconic, the rare or the just plain cool behind the scenes shots to feature here.
Tomorrow’s Behind the Scenes pic finds another movie creature lounging around set!
-Quint
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Previous Behind the Scenes pics:
- Alien
- Big Trouble In Little China
- Clash of the Titans
- Dr. Strangelove
- Sesame Street
- The Birds
- The Dark Knight
- Batman (1989)
- Batman: The TV Series
- Stephen King’s IT
- Raiders of the Lost Ark
- Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
- Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
- Superman
- The French Connection
- Tron
- The Road Warrior
- Ghostbusters
- King Kong (’33)
- The Empire Strikes Back (Luke with Slate)
- Rebel Without A Cause
- Taxi Driver
- Metropolis
- The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
- Tommy Chong Meets The Blues Brothers
- The Empire Strikes Back (Filming the Crawl)
- John Carpenter’s The Thing
- Jaws
- Die Hard
- Aliens
- Frankenstein Meets The Wolf Man
- The Howling
- Revenge of the Creature
- The Empire Strikes Back (Vader & Luke Duel)
- The Godfather
- Rambo III
- Vertigo
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I was wrong; it was Earth all along - you finally made a monkey {you finally made a monkey} Yes, you finally made a monkey out of me!
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And you know I'm right. Because it existed. In real space. And was photographed on real space under real lights in real condition. The same maxim by which a Snowspeeder will always look real and the ending of Episode II always... won't.
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It must have been tough enough to emote in that get-up, but to have to smoke in it too, gee whiz!
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It's rife with symbolism in a way that I'm sure it wasn't meant to be. My favorite so far.
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I have never understood the appeal. they're cheesy and plodding, and when you fold them up next to other classic sci-fi, it's just laughable in my opinion.<p>can anyone explain to me why these movies are special, other than possibly giving a boost to the american foam latex industry?
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oops
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Now it's as common knowledge as Rosebud and Vader being Luke's dad but in 1968 the Statue of Liberty's ruins was still a huge surprise.
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Love this movie. The cigarette has to be a joke though right? Cuz it doesn't seem like you could smoke in that makeup
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-before I saw Star Wars and the like as a small child - MONKEYS ARE TALKING!!! <p> The metaphor sets in as you get older but at first - MONKEYS ARE TALKING!!!
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...from chimpan-A to chimpan-Z!!! Yes, they finally made a monkey out of me!
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How old were you when you first saw the movie?
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Can't remember the main starlets name, but she was hot.
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Of course you can! Well I couldn't before! Great pic.
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With real ape language (subtitled).
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it blew me away [see: TALKING MONKEYS] just as much as seeing the skeleton battle in Voyage of Sinbad. But as I got older and saw it again, there were so many more things that I appreciated in PotA. It's film about evolution [btw, not a far fictional leap to why they are speaking english, walking upright, etc. Taking and adapting the strongest points unto themsleves]. The set design. The prothetics. The music. The camera angles. All very well done. I always found Heston to be a little wooden as an actor but Roddy McDowell was emoting his ass off in this film. Hard to do in latex. Ask Kane Hodder or Doug jones.
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POTA and 2001. Speaking of which, you must have a few juicy 2001 BTS pics Quint...?
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translation: Gnarly
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depending on what year you saw it in. It's relative on what you saw & what influenced you before. I might be viewing the movie through nostalgia'a glasses, which some reviewers [Mori?] consider not that critically relevant. I do think it's relevant though because art is supposed to make you express an emotion - for good or bad - and if a piece of art can make you experience that same emotion as you did when you saw it the first time, I feel it must have done something right at a basic level.
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Now you've got to admit that you've all wanted to empty your load onto Zira's hairy monkey tits, no?
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. . . by Pierre Boulle. In that, the astronauts really do travel to another world. There are farther twists. In any case, it's clear that the book has points to make about race, culture and scientific beliefs. I enjoy the film, but it's a dumbed-down and very altered version of the actual story.
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Very cool behind the scenes pic! I have and still am partial to all the Planet of the Ape films as well as the Planet of The Apes TV show...all of which I loved watching as a little kid and still do as an adult. I wonder...which "Ape" film was this behind the scenes pic captured from? Keep up the good work with this collumn!
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the English thing isn't a problem because they've evolved to speak it, it's because in the beginning of the film, we're meant to think we're on AN ALIEN PLANET. I guess the Star Trek mentality of the time meant that the entire universe spoke English, but to me, when I saw this at age 14, I immediately thought it was Earth in the future. Why else would there be dumb, enslaved humans, exact earth atmosphere, and English being spoken?<p>I just don't see how this film holds up at ALL as a sci-fi classic. unconvincing prosthetics, laughably bad acting from Heston, plodding pace throughout.<p>what am I missing? and don't give me nostalgia. I'm 30, and there are movies from my childhood that I loved, that still do hold up (Labyrinth comes to mind), and there are some that I LOVED, that simply don't. (Neverending Story, anyone?)<p>Planet of the Apes, I just don't get.
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Am I retarded, or does that look like a 16mm camera?
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played Nova and she was pretty hot back then..i think she was producer Arthur P. Jacobs girlfriend at the time..
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And yeah, you can see the elongated mouth bit for the cigarette to facilitate her smoking in costume. <BR><BR>I gotta say I loved Kim Hunter's performance. Her character Zira is by far my favorite in the series.
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Not the first movie, but DVD. I think I was 17.
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Aug. 13, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST
you really dropped the ball by not having a friday the 13th pic
by RedBull_Werewolf
I am so disapointed now
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Apes should know that.
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...with a capital M, a capital S and three exclamation points at the end. I met him after he made Mother Lode. When he walked through a room the people parted like they were the Red Sea. When he spoke it was with such gravity it made the room vibrate. At the time I was a kid and knew him from just a handful of movies, three of which, of course, were Apes, Omega Man and Soylent Green, a fourth being Khartoum, which actually sparked in me a lifelong interest in history. He was the one movie star I have ever met who was more impressive in person than he was on screen. <p> Seriously, six foot ten, weighed a fucking ton. And he was extremely gracious to a little inner city brat, too.
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Get one of Kim Jong Ill. I think Team America is his only appearance in film, but I could be wrong.
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...Kim Novak...maybe from Bell Book and Candle. <p> Kim Cattrall...I'd say from Split Second but that's just 'cause I love me some Rootbeer Howard. <p> Kim Delaney...sorry, can't think of a single movie role at the moment but there had to be something. <p> Kim...with some kickass picture of Dean Stockwell onscreen with Errol Flynn.
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Cigarette holder is a must when smoking buried under (flammable)latex.
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let's all hope he's joking...
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The gate of the camera doesn't have to be very big (think about any 35mm instamatic camera) as long as you can drive the film through it. A good example is the modified Nikon for Temple of Doom.
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Differing opinions is acceptable. I look on this movie fondly, as I do the other movies you mentioned. But even if you think it's shitty, it's still iconic and instantly recognizable as a pop culture reference. And as I said about art before - that has to count for something.
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If you don't get it, you don't get it!
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...wow, you turned into the Burgermeister Meisterburger! <p> Not content with just Chuck and Planet of the Apes? Now you have to go after The Neverending Story, too? <p> Come on, man, they looked like such good big strong hands! How can that not bring a tear to your eye. <p> I think you caused the Nothing. <p> there'll be no more toymakers to the King, huh? <p> *grumble*
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Seriously, man, Bastion!
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It looks more like a ARRI camera than those huge Panavison monsters. Can you tell what it is?
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Awesome pic & her smoking is driving me ApE!!!!
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...from your dreams and wishes, BadMrWonka.
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I kid, I kid. This is classic SF without a doubt, and one of Rod Serling's best scripts. LOVED PoTA as a kid but on the second viewing, I wondered, why hasn't any of the three astronaut remarked to the other how similar the landscape looked to Earth landscapes? And wasn't it wildly coincidental to have human-looking people on this supposedly alien planet?
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...I'm going to have to call "If you're wondering how he eats and breathes and other science facts, just repeat to yourself it's just a show, you should really just relax". <p> For the time when Planet of the Apes came out it was social commentary wearing a science fiction mask. Viewed today it's something you should enjoy for the set pieces: The see no evil, hear no evil speak no evil apes...Zira's reaction to kissing Heston...the early hunt on horseback...the reveal of the lobotomy...every single moment Dr. Zaius was onscreen (what a performance Maurice Evans gave)...the final reveal <p> Don't look for it Taylor, you may not like what you find. <p> Sorry I had to be semi-serious there, I was intending on teasing BadMrWonka into loving The Neverending Story again.
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Great find!
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Artax sinking in the Swamp of Sadness was appropriatly named. *sniff*
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Or should I say...Moonchild!
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I'm not a real expert on cameras, but indeed it does look like an Arriflex to me. It's funny, when the Viper and Panavised Sony came out about 10 years ago, the DPs complained that they went back to the bulkiness of the big cameras of the 50s. Fortunately, digital cameras didn't take much time to get to more manageable sizes since then.
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The heroine gets killed. The lead gets riddled with bullets. And Heston blows up the Urth in the end. Not a great movie, but I'll never forget that ending.
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Because it is a great social commentary, maybe? I mean, they replace the Scopes "Monkey" Trail with an actual f'ing monkey trial! And have the nerve to have the close minded apes re-inact the "see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil" pose. <p> Planet of the Apes is allegorical and deep in many ways that modern Sci-Fi and cinema in general isn't. It isn't trying to be "realistic" sci-fi, it is trying to be a parable and tackle serious subject matter like racism, close-mindedness and science vs. religion without being heavy-handed.
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...well, sadly, I treasure every movie in which Victor Buono appears. And when I say sadly I mean it has rather sad implications regarding my taste. But doggone, I resented James Franciscus in that movie. And I didn't like the carbon copy opening. <p> But I'll put in with you on liking the final payoff, unconvincing as the trip to it was.
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Aug. 13, 2010, 9:23 p.m. CST
BadMrWonka, Heston's acting wasn't over the top for that time
by MattmanReturns
Everyone over-acted back then. And the movie was perfectly paced, in my opinion. I wish more movies were paced that way, but today everyone wants action in every scene. The score is amazing. The social commentary is still relevant today, and that's a sign of great sci-fi. That ending still gets me every time. When I first saw it, of course I already knew the ending (I was born in 79), but it still struck me as a great movie. And the prosthetics in the first film were great for the time. Hell, I think they still look good today.
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The plot with the mutants was a great idea, and took the sequel beyond just doing the first film over again. But yeah, it started out way too similar... and it's hilarious how they speed up James Franciscus figuring out its Earth.
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That's how movies used to set the mood. They built up to their payoffs! That is so seldom understood lately. Planet of the Apes was shaped like an extended Twilight Zone. Christ, the more I talk about, the more I want to fire up the Blu-Ray.
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We're talking about Planet of the Apes, you fuck.
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...my wife will beat me if I don't eat now but may I first Amen nearly everything you've posted.
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Dollhouse used a VariCam HPX3700 for the second season and I thought it looked great but the Sony F23 used for the Public Enemies movie [w/ Depp] looked like shit. It might have had something to do with the way the DP lighted it but I wasn't a fan. You really need to be careful when lighting and matching with digital - it looks fucking touchy.
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Enjoy dinner. I'm off to see Expendables (though if I were smart I'd just stay in and watch Planet of the Apes for the fiftieth time).
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Someone find the nude pic of Kim Cattrall with the Vulcan ears, circa Star Trek VI
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Aug. 13, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST
How did he know they "BLEW IT UP!!" ?
by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY
"damn THEM?" How does one know when seeing a huge statue sticking out of sand that it must of been a mistake done solely by stupid medling human beings???? could it have been nature? or aliens?? nop damn human maniacs. unless he meant the apes? or am i the one assuming?
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Aug. 13, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST
and he meant "DAMN YOU MOTHER NATURE,
by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY
YOU MANIAC!!"
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Seriously - even guys like darkskywalkerlockes stick to a TB name until they are banned. Finding him noble in his efforts should make you realize what sour cunts you actually are. Cowards.
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Aug. 13, 2010, 10:33 p.m. CST
"YOU CUT UP HIS *BRAIN*, YOU BLOODY *BABOONS*...!"
by Nasty In The Pasty
"IT'S A MADHOUSE! A MMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Want to buy some shoes?
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the writers couldn't foresee Reagan coming into office and tricking the Russians into bankrupting themselves<p> Or that today that we have a corprate mindset that ok's less than one percent of a company bonuses themselves to the point of gutting a company from within<p> Or that once destroying a company they could go to washington and get the money to do it again, and aparantly again<p> High level corprate extortion: Give us billions of dollars or this company will go under<p> Once the payoff is done they give each other hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses for their smart business acumen<p> No one has a sense of honor any more<p> In the old days people would fall on their swords for destroying a generations old company<p> Now they demand bailouts and give themselves hundreds of millions of dollars bonuses for being smart businessmen<p> The greatest wrong in our society about this is that we didn't invest in a few hundred ropes and thin the top of the herd a bit
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Red, first off, I will always have a soft spot for the neverending story. I LOVED it as a kid, and I still think some parts are quite good. my first "boy/girl" thing (to quote That Thing You Do) was for the princess with the glowing grain of rice. and Artex drowning because he was getting too sad? very well done, and always made me cry.<p>that said, the film suffers big time from adapting only parts of a (admittedly very long) story. the balance of Bastien's world and Fantasia is all over the place. and some of the special effects are truly laughably bad. Falcor looks like something a bunch of housewives would make for a float in rural Texas. just terrible. and I didn't like how they changed the Oracle form what it was in the book. not a terrible movie, I'm just saying, I watch it as an adult, and wonder what I worshipped. but Labyrinth, that shit is still funny, still cool, and the special effects and puppetry are, I think, maybe the best ever. the scene with the chicken headed guy? that's fucking FUNNY. just pure and simple funny. that's what I mean. works for kids, works for adults. <p> I think that people view Planet of the Apes through rose-colored glasses. I know the themes, but where other people see brilliant satire, I see a really heavy-handed message. where other people see great set and ground breaking make-up, I see monkeys that talk without their mouths moving, an an entire movie that looks like it takes place on a refurbished Star Trek set.<p>and MattmanReturns, if you think I'm begging or action an splosions, you don't know me that well, man. I don't have a problem with the pacing and plodding nature of the film because there isn't enough action, it's because I think there's just too little going on to justify how long it is. the movie is almost 2 hours long, if I remember correctly. and there are a whole host of scenes that are just sort of "look at the society! isn't it cool! look at the sets! look at the clothing! etc. etc" if you trimmed that, and kept the narrative tighter (closer to what, evidently, Rod Serling's original script was like) then I think the movie would have been better for it.<p> and I know I'm in the minority, I mean, the movie wasn't even ripped apart by critics back then. it was almost an instant classic. I understand that. I just don't see it.<p>I also think that the movie, ironically, works as a science fiction piece (excluding the allegorical stuff) more for people who don't actually READ sci-fi stories. I did and do, even as a kid, and I guessed the ending form the start. add to that, when Zaius finally admits that there used to be humans, and the roles reversed and all that, people were STILL not getting that this was Earth in the future? they were STILL surprised at the final scene?<p> a lot of people believe that short stories make better films, because novels are too dense. and it's true, a lot of great films have been made from short stories (Shawshank Redemption is a good example). also see my point above about the Neverending Story. I think Planet of the Apes really feels like a short story. it takes place in a relatively short period of time (excluding the space flight, lol...of course), relatively small area, not too many characters. so then why not make a nice little 80 minute movie out of it? why 2 hours?<p> at any rate, I think maybe I'm fooling myself and 90% of why I don't like the film is that I find the costumes and masks to be truly, distractingly stupid.
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http://tinyurl.com/2572frx <p> and check out ho perfect the matte work is in the background, the extending pathway and all that. phenomenal. and the editing between the walking Wiseman (obviously a midget in a suit) and the talking version (obviously a hand puppet) is so seamless. <p>the scene is just priceless.
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makes me laugh every time.
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What a goddamn mess this movie was. It’s Spider-man 3 all over again when there was the potential to make another Spider-man 2.You know, just because a movie is based on a comic book, that revolves around 8-bit videogame references, it doesn’t mean that it has to move at such a pace that people with ADD would start saying “WOAH, slow down there buddy!”. I’ve been looking forward to Scott Pilgrim since I first heard that this was Edgar Wright’s next project and discovered that the graphic novels were excellent, with the exception of Volume 6, which sucked as I have explained why in my review that was posted here.<br> <br>Wright SHOULD have been the perfect man for this job as Spaced, series one, is an absolute masterpiece and I had hoped that Scott Pilgrim could have been the Canadian equivalent. How wrong I was to have hoped. I’ve been saying all along that SP should have came across as a mix of Clerks 2 and Kung Fu Hustle. SPVSTW fails to come even close to either of those moves. The thing that they had, that SPVSTW doesn’t, was a level of pathos and emotional development that came off as genuine and sincere in between all the donkey show and sfight scene’s. <br> <br>There is nothing genuine or sincere about any of the so-called- character development in this movie. I’ve said this before but the thing that made the comic’s great wasn’t the fight scene’s, it was the recognizable moments of human emotion that were on display between all the craziness. You could see Scott Pilgrim grow and develop over the novels. In this movie, SP has to tell us that he’s grown and changed because we sure as fuck wouldn’t be able to tell without him explaining it to us. <br> <br>Amazing fight scene’s and visuals mean fuck all if I don’t care about the characters and I couldn’t give a shit about anyone in this movie. What we are watching aren’t characters but caricatures. Wright was in such a rush to get from one fight scene to the next that the movie didn’t have time to breath and let these people become real. This is a really piss poor adaptation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the comic’s deal with subspace (why did they even bother mentioning it when it played no part), robots, kung-fu battles and vegan superpowers but that doesn’t mean that some quality drama couldn’t have put into it as Christopher Nolan showed us that you CAN make great drama out of a man dressed as a bat fighting a psychotic clown. <br> <br>SPVSTW fails because Wright has made it into a rapid fire miss-mash of pop culture/video game references in place of any real dramatic content. But then maybe the problem is with the original content itself as O’Malley himself failed to give any proper closure to these characters. At the end, of both the books and the movie, you have no sense that Pilgrim has moved forward apart from gaining a new sword and defeating the ex’s. Oh, both try to leave a question mark about Scott and Ramona’s future, but they still deliver the prerequisite “happy ending” which comes off as a cop out. <br> <br>If I may make a comparison between the Scott Pilgrim movie/books and the Spider-man movies; Scott Pilgrim 1 & 2 feel like Spider-man 1, really good but not truly great. They hit the right notes more then they miss and, although very enjoyable, you get the feeling that it could be soo much more. <br> <br>And then comes Spider-man 2/Scott Pilgrim Vol 3, 4 and 5. Superior in every way. Characters and story are better defined because the creators learned from their mistakes and crafted a much more mature and thoughtful piece of work while still being massively entertaining. Emphasis is placed on fulfilling the traditional structure of “good triumphs over evil” while also adding more emotional depth and moments of quiet introspection that make the characters feel more “real” which grounds them despite all the craziness going on elsewhere in the story. You also get a sense that everyone in the story learns from their own mistakes and grow as people rather than caricatures. <br> <br>Scott Pilgrim’s Finest Hour is the Spider-man 3 of the series. There is little or no character development beyond the superficialities of fighting the bad guy while trying to save a failing relationship. Scott/Ramona=Peter Parker/Mary Jane Watson don’t feel like they have grown or developed by the end of the story nor have they moved onto another level beyond managing just to stay together. In both cases, I felt that their stories had came to the point where they would have been better off without each other and should have moved on. <br> <br>Scott/Peter becomes (is) a self centered twat who is certain that he must be with the woman they claim to love which, in both cases, was based heavily on infatuation/lust, not on whether they had anything in common beyond physical attraction. Meanwhile, Ramona/M.J. both come off as aloof and, despite showing some affection and claiming to love Scott/Peter, they both seem perfectly willing to drop they’re boyfriends depending on which way the wind is blowing because neither feel like they had any real love for their men beyond what they were getting out of them, be it fighting evil exes or supervillians. Both Scott/Peter seem to be breaking their backs to prove their love for these women while both of the ladies seem to hitch their wagons to them simply due to convenience and nothing more, while being ready to bug out at a moments notice if things don’t suit them which isn’t surprising as they both seem self absorbed, never mind that neither seem to have a problem hooking up with other men. <br> <br>Meanwhile, the villains come off as one note and their defeat feels less like a triumph over adversity then a necessary end to the story. The secondary characters have no development at all. Essentially, both Scott Pilgrim’s Finest Hour/Spider-man 3 feel like nothing more then action scene’s punctuated by substandard plot devices and generic character moments designed to give the illusion that we are seeing these people progress as human beings when, by the end of the story, there has been no real change from where they were at the beginning of the comic/movie. <br> <br>In both cases, the easy way out has been taken by providing generic “happy ending’s” because the comic/movie’s creator(s) didn’t have the nerve to buck tradition and provide a resolution that, although may come off as downbeat, would have felt more “real” and “true”, thus giving their stories greater depth and meaning while elevating them beyond being a simple comic book/movie which is exactly what had been achieved in Scott Pilgrim Vol’s 3/4/5 and Spider-man 2.
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Aug. 13, 2010, 11:10 p.m. CST
Correction: this from Spike Lee's Miracle at St. Anna
by BoRock_A_Boomer
Spike has always been very hands on
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...you know I love ya'. And I'm not going to argue Labyrinth versus The Neverending Story, because I like Labyrinth better, too. <p> But damn if I don't tear up every time...hell, like six or seven times, even when Falcor chases the bullies into the dumpster. The big good strong hands line...yipes. The kids don't react as badly as I do and they're eight and twelve. <p> Okay, and here's an even worse story, which may give this some context. You're forbidden to ever use it against me. Nah, it's fine. When I was in high school, in between my first and second real high school girlfriends I had this incredible crush on this girl. And it wasn't that she didn't like me so much as that she was totally indifferent to my existence. But I had game (basically my game was bothering her every single day)and she finally agreed to go out with me. We went to see The Last Unicorn. <p> I could stretch this story out but the short version is that I may have...hmmm...rubbed my eyes and gotten some of the salt from the popcorn into them. And she may have noticed. And instead of thinking that this made me the perfect sensitive prospective boyfriend she may have sat through the rest of the movie in silence, wanted to go home right after, and avoided me like the plague for the rest of the school year. Oddly enough, to my knowledge (and I think at my school I would have become very aware) she never spoke of it to anyone else. <p> It was quite a relief that her family moved away before the next year. And damn, it was The Last Unicorn. So it could be that I'm susceptible to certain things.
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i think i have a new desktop background pic. love this pic! thanks for posting it!
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Aug. 13, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST
TAYLOR - "ZIRA, SHOW ME YOUR RED DISTENDED ANUS!"
by ChristianTerroristMilitia
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I'd be willing to bet Charlton Heston never went gerbiling<br> Or that Kirk Douglas had a brazillian wax (not so sure about his son)<p> Lot of speculation if Zac Effron is going to come out and leave that little hottie looking like a fool<br> his contract with disney supercedes hers or something
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Aug. 14, 2010, 12:05 a.m. CST
So tomorrow will be the titular character from FLUBBER?
by Tigger Tales
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I remember them..
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...about Planet of the Apes I wonder if it's just a case of historical perspective. I had this great teacher named Doug Moore back when I was in school. He'd taught film all over the world, had four skeletons in his basement he'd somehow gotten back from India (three in coffins and one he'd wired up in a chair on the visitors' side of his desk) and had nine children, all with Old Testament names. Anyway, over the course of my undergraduate years I had seven classes with him, some of which were film studies. My favorite was The Whited Sepulcher: The Gothic Tradition in Film (because the name was much better than An Easy A for Watching Scary Movies) but the rest were all silent film classes. We'd sit in class and watch movies while Doctor Doug sat in the back of the class puffing on his cigar and cackling "You can almost smell the smoke" anytime anything on screen was on fire. <p> The thing was, I dug Intolerance. I could appreciate the craftsmanship of Birth of A Nation (and endured Doctor Doug's verbal abuse when I once accidentally called it Birth of The Nation). I liked Sunrise by Murnau, liked some Stroheim (though having sat through 4 hours of Greed I am not among those who yearn to see the original 9 hour cut) and flat out loved Eisenstein. <p> But I didn't get the comedies. There was a whole course devoted to the comedies, and most of my friends liked and got the comedies much more than they had the dramas. I would sit there and in my head I would see how nearly every joke would play out before they happened and the exaggerated style of acting bothered me much more in the comedies than they had the dramas. I mean we're talking City Lights and The General and Sherlock Jr. and The Gold Rush and I am just waiting for them to be over. <p> So anyway, I broached the subject with Dr. Doug and he looked me up and down and said "historical perspective". Well, I immediately got defensive because the problem damn well wasn't me, I "got" Stroheim and Murnau, I loved German expressionism so much I could hold it clenched between my butt cheeks, I was a cinema connoisseur. Doctor Doug listened to me and then told me that other movies had squeezed all the juice out of these before I ever got to see them. I'd seen bits that others had reused, I'd seen variations on the gags, I'd seen the classic moments cannibalized in a hundred different ways. I was incapable of seeing them with fresh eyes and because of that they seemed clunky and obvious. <p> Well anyway, the thing was this didn't please me either, because my friends had seen the same stuff I had and they were laughing. And he tried to explain to me that it was a very personal thing, that different people would have the same problem for different films even if they had pretty much the same movie viewing background. I couldn't get it back then because you know, I knew a thing or two about a thing or two. <p> But yeah, Doctor Doug was right. My wife, who it could be argued has better taste in movies than I do, could watch The Grapes of Wrath once a month. She can't sit through Citizen Kane, and when I say can't sit through I mean it very literally. She will try, she will fidget and then she will leave. And when I point out all the things Citizen Kane did first she understands perfectly and it doesn't make a bit of difference. <p> Sometimes you can watch a movie and it doesn't matter how many times you've seen what it did in later movies, you appreciate it the way you might have if you were sitting in a theater the year it was made. <p> Sometimes you can't. <p> I don't know if that's you and Planet of the Apes, but from a few of the things you said in your last post it sounds like it might be.
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take a second...think...when was the movie made?? what major world conflict was going on at the time?? what was the biggest fear and threat to humanity at the time?? Why did he think they blew it up?? seriously??
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Aug. 14, 2010, 3:19 a.m. CST
BILL BRASKY DID ALL THE MAKEUP ON PLANET OF THE APES
by Anything But Tangerines
TO BILL BRASKY!!!!!!
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AICN needs a Bill Brasky obit, that talkback will break records
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Ralph Kramden and Ed Norton are the "miles gloriosus" and "parasitus" stock characters straight out of the Romans (though Norton is a hybrid "parasitus" / servus callidus).
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And it had the Statue of Liberty on the front cover for fuck's sake.
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That was quite wonderful. I don't have anything to compare to that experience; makes me jealous tO find out I don't. <p> I mean, I was nine and by myself when I first saw PotA. Saw it again, on purpose, renting the VHS when I was 13. There was just something there that I had to see again & remember; even if I didn't really understand at the time what they where trying to tell me. <p> Because it felt important.
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Fucking spoiler, man. I hate when cover art does that. Looking at you, Death In The Family {Batman & Robin}
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As great as the original Planet Of The Apes was (and it was brilliant and much better than the book that it was based upon), I think it really hit its stride when writer Paul Dehn came aboard and created the time paradox in which Cornelius and Zira travel back in time to Earth (in Taylor's spaceship) and fathered the ape-child Milo/Ceasar who would grow up and eventually lead the apes in revolution against their human oppressors. ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES, is the sequel which disproves the theory that the third film in any sci-fi series usually sucks.
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Aug. 14, 2010, 7 a.m. CST
The Libery Statue buried in the sand...
by BP_drills_america_a_new_asshole
is actually what WILL happen withing the next few thousand years when a volcano in La Palma on the other side of the Atlantic erupts, send a chunk of the island into the ocean and a devastating tsunami will wipe out New York, Miami, Boston and many other cities.<P>This IS going to happen, nothing can stop it. If Taylor had known this, he could have said "God damn you, volcano! God damn you to hell!"
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...now this. Mankind as we know it is over.
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You stupid monkey!
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Now THIS is how you do Science Fiction. A top notch script based on a superior story...with special effects present only to carry off the idea...not clutter up the fucking screen with meaningless explosions, eye candy and general fuckery.
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So they are not only doing another Jurassic Park but it's basically a reboot/trilogy. The working title is Orlando. Maybe Universal finally remembered that Jurassic park never actually opened. Maybe we'll see actual themepark visitors getting eaten. Whole families of hapless victims! If you think about it the first 3 do a great job establishing the mythothology- time to open the park!
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that's the thing I saw when I was a little kid. I even used to have a matching cereal bowl and cup. I know I saw the movie sequels on tv. But to be honest, I must have seen the original movie at some point because I remember Heston (the famous lines and the ending), but I don't actually remember when I saw it. I rented it on DVD a few years ago to show my stepson - I think before we saw the Burton abortion. And it felt pretty epic on a widescreen - it put things in perspective to know that this was the same year as 2001. The color, the cinematography, the 1960s pacing, the makeup. Even as an adult I was duly impressed. So it still works for me. Red Ned Lynch, I've heard that idea before. Probably why I've never seen the entire Godfather. So tired of gangster cliches, saw Goodfellas when it came out back in college, that it's hard to go back to the original that's been ripped off so many times. It's like my much younger girlfriend who listens to music that's been influenced by music I listened to. I can't stand a lot of it because it's so derivative, but she hasn't heard the original bands, so it seems fresh to her. So I totally get that phenomenon.
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It is a convention of sci fi movies of the time to have everyone speak English. What bothered me is that Taylor an astronaut in his whole time on the planet never bothered to look to the night sky and see that the moon and stars are exactly the same as earth's.
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The motor on the side gives it away.
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Aug. 14, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST
And one of Jerry Goldsmith's all-time best scores
by Nasty In The Pasty
"The Hunt" is on my list for all-time best film music cues.
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Good stuff Quint.
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Perhaps the dude was just too bamboozled and fucked up being chased by upright walking, talking Apes with guns to notice.</p><p>Besides...during his down time..I'm sure Taylor was face down between Novas thighs or motorboating till he couldn't breathe.
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Bad costumes, apes not moving their mouths? The first movie all apes had great, oscar-winning costumes, and they moved their mouths when they talked. The other movies in the series, however, tended to have low budgets, so all but a couple main characters used crappy masks. And maybe the same problem with Neverending Story, Falcor was MUCH better in the first movie, in the other (ugh) two, he looked like a cheap crappy effect.
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Something from Kim Possible,then?
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We don't know how much in the future the movie really is, the night sky could very well be a different one than he remembered. First off, every year shifts the positions of the constellations in the night sky a bit. And second, the stars that make them up are moving in all different directions, and eventually they will change the shapes of their constellations since the constellations aren't really made up of stars in the same region of space. As for the moon, again this is the future - maybe it got disfigured by mining, or advertising (I've seen plans for turning the moon into a huge advertisement), or terraforming, or whatever.
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Friggin' awesome score, great cinematography, casting and I loved Linda Harrison as Nova. They don't make 'em like they used to...
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Many thanks for posting this picture. I heard about its existence a few months ago, but couldn't find it via Google, despite using various search terms. Great film and character.
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Whoa whoa whoa.. so Luke and Vader were related????
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Where are your liberal sensibilities?!
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Thats hilarious
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This film was my Star Wars before Star Wars.
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With my dirty smelling man-gland
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Bought the trading cards, watched the Saturday morning cartoon too. I remember seeing POTA at the drive-in back in '68. I really enjoyed it and have been a fan ever since!
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