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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes pic!
Joe Dante’s The Howling gets under my skin. I can’t really put my finger on why… it could be as simple as the film stock or perhaps it's Rob Bottin’s genuinely creepy werewolf transformation and the horrific design of the werewolves themselves. Whatever the reason the film is very disturbing for me still to this day.
I grew up a werewolf nut. The Wolf Man was my favorite Universal monster and I loved The Howling, An American Werewolf in London… hell, I even loved Silver Bullet and the Stephen King book it was based on: Cycle of the Werewolf, so when I got this photo of Joe Dante hanging with one of his giant wolf men I put it right at the top of my priority list for this column.
The only way it could be any better is if the great Dick Miller was featured!
Here’s the pic (click for a bigger version):
If you have a pic you think should be included email me. I’m looking for the iconic, the rare or the just plain cool behind the scenes shots to feature here.
Check back tomorrow for a Behind the Scenes pic featuring a fresh fish!
-Quint
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Previous Behind the Scenes pics:
- Alien
- Big Trouble In Little China
- Clash of the Titans
- Dr. Strangelove
- Sesame Street
- The Birds
- The Dark Knight
- Batman (1989)
- Batman: The TV Series
- Stephen King’s IT
- Raiders of the Lost Ark
- Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
- Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
- Superman
- The French Connection
- Tron
- The Road Warrior
- Ghostbusters
- King Kong (’33)
- The Empire Strikes Back (Luke with Slate)
- Rebel Without A Cause
- Taxi Driver
- Metropolis
- The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
- Tommy Chong Meets The Blues Brothers
- The Empire Strikes Back (Filming the Crawl)
- John Carpenter’s The Thing
- Jaws
- Die Hard
- Aliens
- Frankenstein Meets The Wolf Man
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.....thats all I got!
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Fuck vampires and zombies. Werewolves FTW!
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Huge American Werewolf in London Fan though. I even liked its sequel. But there was something about the Howling that just didn't work for me, and I don't know what it was. I like all the parties involved, and liked the premise. And the transformation sequence was fantastic. There was something about the protagonist's situation (whats-her-name - E.T.'s mom) that just gave the movie a dream/nightmare-like quality, which might have been the point, but I found distracting.
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...except for when the female reporter turned into a were-poodle at the end. Anyway, then they started churning out all those horrible direct-to-video sequels. Remember the Australian one with the marsupial werewolves and the werewolf chicks had pouches like kangaroos? How fucked up was that? I remember the red-haired chick who played the main werewolf chick was kind of cute, though. But the movie really sucked ass on an epically bad scale.
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Of a werewolf, from they're sexual primal instincts, congregating in packs and the nightmarish circumstances of becoming one. <p> The practical effects of the transformations in themselves were absolutely amazing. Silver Bullet, American Werewolf in London Lon Chaney Jr. and The Howling are movies about Werewolves at they're finest. I had Big hopes fore the new Wolfman, Unfortunately.........
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I saw it for the first time maybe nine years ago and wasn't impressed, then Netflixed the movie again about a month ago...and my impression hasn't changed. The big Bottin transformation scene with Robert Picardo is still pretty impressive, but the movie isn't scary and is horribly dated (the scene with the two screwing werewolves turning into CEL-ANIMATED CARTOONS as they transform is laughable). An American Werewolf In London is better on every conceivable level.
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When Dee Wallace was being used as a guinea pig to help trap her "Stalker" was disturbing. And to think Pee Wee Herman got arrested for less.
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But as others have said the sequels got steadily worse and completely bizarre. Wasn't there a (suprise, suprise!) remake/reboot mentioned at some point?
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...and thought it was gonna be about Scarface for a moment.
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Yeah, the film sucked, but come on. Werewolf orgies! Don't tell me no-one on set had a camera on them
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Nine years ago? Of course the movie is "Dated" You're talking pre CGI Hollywood. <p> I'm quite sure the original King Kong and Clash of the Titans look dated compared to the live action computerized cartoons they put in front of viewers in modern day cinema. <p> In my opinion, The original Clash and Kong told the stories better than the modern remakes no matter how "dated" they look they still are a blast. If not for anything else but to appreciate the efforts that films went through before everything could be filtered into a computer. <p> The best way to have enjoyed movies such as the Howling was to catch them upon first release during they're era, otherwise you'll find yourself comparing the effects to everything you might have seen since the original Jurassic Park.
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ridiculous. It takes forever and all the girl had to do was step to the side and run out the door. Still, the movie is fuckin' fun as hell. This one is one of my Halloween traditions. <P> Bad Moon is a solid werewolf flick (although pretty damn short). If you haven't seen that you should do so.
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it was really rough. A fun movie but not a classic
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Great pic, btw. Joe Dante is an under-appreciated talent, plus a true geek. That 3D movie he did last year still hasn't been released in the UK. Fresh fish? I'm thinking SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION...
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With the voice (and outfit) of the kid in A Christmas Story who was standing in line next to Ralphie...... <p> " I like Gregory Hines "
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Aug. 7, 2010, 8:56 a.m. CST
I realize all older films will seem "dated" to some degree...
by Nasty In The Pasty
...but if the movie just doesn't work for whatever reason, the dated elements will only stand out more. That's why American Werewolf In London is still entertaining, while The Howling isn't (I saw both films for the first time on the same day nine years ago, BTW). I kind of hate it when a cherished movie from my childhood gets dismissed by today's kids for being "lame" and "dated", but I never saw Tron back in the day, and finally rented it a few months ago, and it's...kinda lame and dated.
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The same could be said about Voltron. <p> When the lionships are all assembled, preparing to stack on top of each other to form the Mecha Giant. I always wondered why the Robeasts didn't take those opportunities when the team is vulnerable, to blow them all to hell.
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...the Clash of the Titans remake to Peter Jackson's King Kong. Peter Jackson actually gave a shit about the movie he was remaking (and made a damn good movie).
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Compared to American Werewolf in London, The Howling's effects are pretty mediocre, but still, It's a classic, I have legitimate reasons. <p> The freaky Voodoo chick who was killing rabbits'n'shit and was in the "cartoon" porn scene.... Man, I would've hit that Wolf pussy from the original Howling to the remake!
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Just watched last night on Region B blu and they've done an admirable job on the transfer I'm happy to say. I hadn't viewed it in years and found it to be still tremendous fun - cool werewolves, smart direction, some stylish photography and a wry, tongue-in-cheek tone. It's so cheerfully aware of its own ridiculousness and a fine antidote to the earnestness of modern horror and fantasy films. <p>Thanks for posting this cool pic, guys.
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Not comparing... <p> Peter Jackson made a massive Kong Film, he gets props for one of the meanest beat downs ever conceived, when he put Kong in a cage match with not one...or two...but THREE FUCKING T-REXES!!!! <p> It was fucking insane! Visually it was a great achievement, But that's all it was..... visual after visual after visual........ Oh and Jack Black. <p> Kong looked and interacted like a 20 stories high Silver back should (which was impressive in it's own right However, I cant dismiss what Ray Harryhausen brought to the table or my love for black and white cinema, which was just as beautiful as the modern day film.... <p> You should know as well as I that Peter Jackson used the original Kong as a template for the new one even adding the infamous bug scene. The original excelled in it's simplicity, the new one although massive, sometimes got trapped under it's own weight.
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....yup! Another movie in the classic horror remake cycle, a la TCM, Last House on the Left, Hills Have eyes et.c<br><br>It is to be called the Howling:Reborn, and is set in a high school environment. Joe Nimziki (WHO???) is writing and directing. Apparently this guy directed an episode of the outer limits back in 1997. <br><br> What do you think? Destined to be fucking terrible? Can it be worse than "Cursed?"
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Tron was kinda lame Back then, <p> The new and improved X-box 360, Ps3 and a partriiiidge in a pear tree sequel is the only reason the original has any weight right now... don't believe me? <p> What interest do you think people would have in original Tron, right now, if the sequel wasn't being made?
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With you all the way! Visually Jacksons Kong was beautiful, but it lacked the soul of the original, which is a shame as Jackson is admittedly a huge fan.<br><br> The casting unfortunatley didn't help it either- Adrien Brody was just unbelieveable in his role as Jack Driscoll; Jack Black as Carl Denham was just plain awful, and Naomi Watts as Ann Darrow brought some vunrability to her part (especially when she was starving an decided to steal the apple) but couldn't compare to original scream queen Faye Wray. <br><br> It was more "Mighty Joe Young" than Kong.<br><br> As for Clash of the Titans, the remake was one of the biggest disappointments I have seen on film. Truly truly lacking any real cohesion from any of the primaries- it was by the numbers throw CGI monsters at the screen and see if it works. Huge fucking shame.
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Plain, dumb but downright vicious made for TV hokum!<br><br> Everett McGill as Rev Lowe just brought his plain creepy persona with him (a toned down maniac from People Under the Stairs), and I actually enjoyed Gary Busey in his pissed as a fart Uncle Red role. Not much research needed for that role.
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Nothing fancy but it really wasn't that bad.
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Good to see real movie werewolves again.
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<p> What about when the werewolf devoured the baby from the pregnant chick (At least that's what the scene implicated) that was about to commit suicide?
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played out on the big screen.
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The scene in Silver Bullet that got me was when the Cheif of Police was walking across the green with Gradys kite covered in blood. You didn't actually see the corpse, but your mid imagined just what condition the kid was left in. ("HE WAS TORN APARRRRRT!!!) <br><br> That, and it creeping up on Cory Haim as he let of the fireworks.......very atmospheric!
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.... fucking dyslexia day!!! That'll teach me for trying to get drunk last night to blot out the shit that was "Righteous Kill."
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was the greatest werewolf ever. I can remember seeing her at the end and being like WTF. With that said, this movie is a little slow but at the time the transformation and the overall werewolf design had never been seen before so that made this movie atchable. "Silver Bullet" is good because of Stephe King's story which has a who-dunnit feel to it that fits with the child leads. It also has Gary Busey so I bid you good day sir. I SAID I BID YOU GOOD DAY!
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and incredibly bad effects.
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shitting on law enforcement in they're face! <p> "Maybe the Sheriff will catch the killer!" <p> "He couldn't catch a cold!"
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The practical effects for this film still hold up and its vision on werewolves is still the best.
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I'd shit myself if I was in a room with Eddie Quist wolfing out. I've yet to see werewolves done scarier than The Howling. An American Werewolf in London has come the closest.
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the man deserves an award or something
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...real entertainment news to write about?
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I agree. With today's been there done that numbed on YouTube kids, all you ever hear is,"Dumb bitch just stands there?!? I'd be out the door!" Hell, I always thought if I were in her place, if I took a step towards the door, who'd the say Eddie couldn't have just pounced on me in mid-transformation? I think they had the ability to change very quickly. Eddie took his time to show off, to savor Karen's terror, to scare the shit out of her. Who woulda thought soft-spoken Robert Picardo would still make the scariest werewolf ever? And I mean scary even before he started changing. Great character build-up with the reporters checking out his rathole apartment, with all the drawings, bones, newspaper clippings...the morgue visit where you saw all the freaking claw marks to the door... granted a few things now ARE kinda dated and funny but The Howling really set up a eerie atmosphere from the start. Silver Bullet was awesome, all except for the werewolf design. Coulda been scarier. He looked like Little Bear. But taller.
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Scariest looking werewolves I've ever seen.
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Damn, I gotta watch this movie today.
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one of those movies I never got around to seeing. Shameful, isn't it?
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I remember reading somewhere (Fangoria?) that Rob Bottin was Rick Bakers protege and both of them were working on the transformation sequences for "American Werewolf in London" and then Bottin went behind Bakers back and worked on "The Howling". Baker was pretty upset about this (as he should be) because he felt that the EFX that they were working on was revolutionary and he wanted it to be first seen in "American Werewolf in London".
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i think Baker was refering to the werewolves elongating snout..i think this is the the first werewolf movie to actually show that..
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anyone?
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Fresh fish!!! we're reelin' em in!
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with the titties and the Christopher Lee an' that...
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themed stuff. I'm talking all October long (with perhaps a last week of September prelude). You seem to be able to pull stuff like that off so I figured I'd suggest it.
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It's more like an Agatha Christie murder mystery than a straight up werewolf movie, but the atmosphere achieved in that movie used to mess with my fragile mind.
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it'll the only movie I ever saw in the theater that I had my hands in front of my face during some of his transformation. That scene was so scary and weird for a kid that it's still a little fucked up today. "let me give you a piece of my mind". I remember seeing Kathy's Curse and Funhouse not long after this. But nothing scared me after I had left the theater except AWIL. I kept thinking it was gonna crash through my window and do that insane ripping to shreds thing it would do that's still the best shit ever FUCKING filmed. Ever.
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young mind like nothing else from that period
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It looked like something I'd catch on cable late night; the werewolf design was pretty cool, but the early-days-of-CGI(1996) transformation was awful. Story seemed interesting. Thanks, Quint. I'm gonna be on a werewolf kick all day. Hopefully none of them will be hopped up on RedBull.
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The Master rules earth. He's kinda like the dredd dormamu with his head all glowing energy. Very high concept
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Fond memories of "Silver Bullet" but I haven't seen it in forever. I am, however, nostalgic for the good old days when werewolves underwent a ludicrously long and painful transformation. No CGI insta-change for me, please.
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Another "didn't see it in the day, and now it's just lame and dated" 80's genre flicks. A shame, because Stephen King's Cycle Of The Werewolf novella was great (mainly due to the superb illustrations of Bernie Wrightson).
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Ginger Snaps and it's prequel and sequel were very good werewolf films. Can't see why people think the transformation FX in The Howling were shite . Myself, I think the film is just a little more rewatchable than AAWIL. I always laugh when they think Slim Pickens is one of them and he starts snarling at them. .
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All three of them are great. I was surprised. The first was a very solid werewolf film (being a film that parallels lycanthropy with something something human condition). The second managed to be creepier and not repeat the first -- and the prequel was gross and had a kind of THING vibe. Great series.<p>Modern WOLFMAN redo was really disappointing. It should have been much better than it was. I wanted it to be a companion piece to Coppola's DRACULA.
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Silver bullet wolf looked like a POS plushie.
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I knew Bottin, and I believe he and Rick parted on amiable terms - the protege is always supposed to move on... That said, Rick couldn't be overly helpful when Rob wanted advice on The Howling - part of this was Landis jealously guarding his movie (Landis unfairly compared Rob's werewolved to Wily Coyote)... Remember, it was Landis who forced Rick to save Naughton's head transformation for last - out of sync with the rest of his metamorphosis. I think Baker's transformation over all is more impressive (he had a lot more experience than Bottin), but Bottin's final werewolf was much scarier... It always bugged me that Baker's werewolf starts black and ends up gray, and it looked clumsy and puppet-like on the street... Story? Dante's is more 80's and Landis's is more timeless Universal monster-y... Awooooooo!
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Really folks? All I remember are the idiotic story elements like having the wheelchair bound kid sneak out at night during a full moon when he alone believed there was a werewolf around. Even at 16 I found that to be idiotic storytelling
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since it's about cat people and you all are idiotic pussies.
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aka the greatest movie ever made.
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The Reason why the monsters couldn't stop the Voltron transformation was because the lions were surrounded by an energy field while they merged. One of the monsters tried to bum rush them mid-transformation and got the shit shocked out of it. I used to think the same thing about "why don't the monsters just attack them while they combined" but this particular scene but that notion to bed.
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says Rupert "Styles" Stilinski :P
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I recently saw that the same effects used to make Leslie Nielson's nose turn into pinocchio in "Airplane" were used on a much larger scale for "The Howling" transformation.
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Now that's an embitious werewolf movie. so ambitious, the maerketing people i USA didn't knew how to promote it and their lack of imagination helped the movie bomb at the box office. Meanwhile in the rest of the world the movie made a killing at the box office and was a sensation and everybody was talking about it. Sadly, it sdseems americans are too hung up on their genres, movies have to be easily identifiable genre boxes. THE COMPANY OF WOLVES defies expectations and easy classification. Kick ass movie too.
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The great sight gags (Wolf brand chili), the cameos (Forrest J. Ackerman), the funny lines ("let me give you a piece of my mind")... <p> Like any Dante picture, "The Howling" is chockablock full of verbal and visual gags.
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The story itself was pretty cool with good chemistry between Jack and Michelle Pfeiffer. The Howling is also quite good. Wolfen was an interesting concept film, but spotty in its execution.
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ditto on "The Company of Wolves". Even that early on you could see director Neil Jordans lush production and you hit the nail on the head as far as the U.S.promotion of the film..such a shame..its an adult dark re-telling of "Little Red Riding Hood" that nobody got!
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I love them both, having been introduced to them on video back in the 80’s (I’d wanted to see them at the cinema, but was too young), but for me, Werewolf in London has the edge simply because it has more emotional depth. David is just this likable college kid plunged way of his depth by circumstances out of his control and as the story wears on, the laughs fade and real pathos sets in when you realize there will be no easy out for him. Not many horror films achieve that. However, there are two things about the film that bug me whenever I watch it: the transformation should have taken place in darkness (as Baker had wanted) and the jaunty version of “Blue Moon” over the end credits is too jarring after the final scene. Howling, while having some badass werewolf designs and the scariest transformation of the two films (Eddie’s bulging eyeballs and manic lupine grin fucking did me in when I was a kid), doesn’t engender the same sense of empathy for the lead characters as Werewolf in London does - although Howling has some great, iconic character actors in the cast (Carradine, Miller, Pickens). Another great BTS photo, cheers!
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something I actually look forward to each day.
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I'd always wished they'd taken all of Bernie Wrightson's images from that book and just made an animated CYCLE OF THE WEREWOLF from them. It would have had that very TALES FROM THE CRYPT feel...and would have been a lot more interesting than the piece of trash that was made. --G
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... and thought Bubba Ho-Tep. Just me?
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i'll admit, i'm a sucker for "Silver Bullet." Gary Busey is the definition of batshit crazy, and there are a few moments in the film that REALLY capture the novella(the making of the bullets, the priest's nightmare of all his church-goers turning into werewolves). but the book is really kind of an awesome, lesser-known King work. something about the anthologistic nature of there being an attack in each month of the year... good stuff. when my friends and I used to sit around and bullshit about potentially going to film school(only one of us did), I would always spout off and say my first project would be a short film take on Cycle. would've been cool. by the way, Quint, this is why I love the BTS pic of the day: it gets me waxing nostalgic on things that are only remotely related to the topic at hand.
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TheSecretary, you've hit EXACTLY on the reason I can't quite rank AAWIL as a genre classic...the INCREDIBLY ham-fisted and inappropriate use of songs (ha-ha, they all have MOON in the lyrics...!). ESPECIALLY the peppy recording of "Blue Moon" following the films downbeat, tragic ending. It'd be like ending The Mist with "The Gonk" from Dawn Of The Dead. Totally ruins the ending for me (plus, the werewolf rampage at the end isn't as long as it should be...it's like the movie FINALLY starts getting really great...then just ends).
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I loved the series. I would much rather a see a dozen GS movies made than an Avatar sequel. They get replayed around the house a lot more than some of the big budget movies that everyone seems to think are better.
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It's only when you read it that you relise just how fucking shit the movie really was.<p>Oh, for what could've been!
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"Their" not "they're". "That" not "thet". "Its" not "it's". <p> Learn to fucking spell before you open your tiny mind on a web forum.
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The Howling is one of those films that could actually be remade and improved upon. Not by the guy mentioned above, with teen wolves and shit though.
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Nick Lowe's the Beast in Me, yeah I know it is actually about alcoholism but it works.
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actually about lesbianism- Wolfwoman by Betty. and Zevon was no slouch either... his hair was perfect.
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Was one of the first films that I ever rented. I liked the dreamlike quality and sly sexual references. I just watched Valerie and Her Week of Wonders. It seems that Neil Jordan must have been influenced by this in his style of Company of Wolves. But the film Valerie plays like the target of every art film parody that I have ever seen.
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You nick is based on the great character created by Raymond Chandler, or you are a big fan of the british TV series THE SINGING DETECTIVE?
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In honesty, I think Marlowe was assigned to me by mistake years ago. Been called worse. I did enjoy Bogart's, Mitchum's and Gould's take on the Marlowe character. Found the Singing Detective to be a little slow but interesting. What's up with the Brit's and the song "Dry Bones" anyhow? McGoohan used it in the Prisoner finale. I hear it hearkens back to the Book of Ezekial.
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Yeah, the brits do have an habit of giving a sinister spin on that song indeed.
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A colony, on a planet, in a galaxy far far away who's inhabitants are being terrorized on every full moon by a lone creature known as Chewbacca, not just any run of the mill Wookie but Chewbacca himself. Whenever someone is bitten, they turn into duplicates of Chewbacca!
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had Timothy Dalton and Beverly D'Angelo as the protagonists
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Ah, Silver Bullet wasn't bad at all! But you are correct, images from the book are very powerful; the wanderer lying dead and frozen in the snow, the pigs in their own offal.....very good.
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Sorry had to throw in that line from one of my favorite classic Rock bands/Rock songs of all time...kinda appropriate for this discussion/posting. First of all... I really like this Behind The Scene Pic from the movie "The Howling" I too am a HUGE Werewolf fan whenit comes to books, stories and especially films! Like Quint, I grew up on the classic horror films like "Wolfman" and "I was a Teenage Werewolf" (I watched them on Creature Feature or Chiller Diller Matinee...I am not THAT old to remember seeing them in the Theater!! Geez!! LOL!!) I also loved such films as "The Howling" (was lucky enough to see it in the theater even though it was an R rated film...back in the late 70ies/early 80ies a lot of theaters enforced the No One Under 17 rule if it was an R flick!)...loved the storyline, the cool Werewolf Transformation scenes, the Werewolf Campfire sex scene and of course it had Dee Wallace Stone who was quite the MILF for her time too!! :) I still enjoy watching that film as well as "American Werewolf in London"...hated "Silver Bullet" (The Movie) and I guess I am in the minority when I say I also hated "Dog Soldiers" too (I guess it was more the special effects of the film or lack goof S/FX that annoyed the hell out of me!)...I loved "Underworld"...but only from the Vampire culture standpoint...I hated the CG Werewolves and how they were able to run along walls in the tunnels in the film (They were Werewolves NOT the Alien creatures from the Aliens series for godsakes!!!) Keep up the good work of this Behind The Scenes Photo series Quint...liking what I have seen so far!
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Is still the only movie that has gotten the actual werewolf(wolves) to seem cool, supernatural, demonic, and nightmarish in their actual appearance. It has GREAT sound design as well. American Werewolf is great, but it's almost scientific transformation is stiff compared to the expressionistic glory in The Howling, and it's werewolf ends up feeling like a snapping wheelbarrow. American Werewolf though has great characters, music shifts, set pieces, and an intriguing storyline. And it does treat the idea of a monster in this stark way that makes it seem real. And those of you who don't feel the jump in mood of the end credits to "Blue Moon" are not to adept at processing cinema. It makes it all seem amazingly,disturbingly, haphazardly flippant and tragic. Do you actually think sad music or horror music would have been better? What is this the 1940's?
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thanks to a tip on here, I just ordered The Howling blu-ray from France amazon.com too cool! It will join my King Kong 1976 blu-ray that was the first movie I asked to see in the theater. And such a fun great movie it still is. So much deeper and better than Jackson's version!
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... there are people who don't like The Howling, and there are people who don't get the truly brilliant end-music use in AAWIL (see also: Evil Dead).<br>Wasn't one of the later Howling 'sequels' (or 'random movies with "Howling" in the title', to give them their proper assignation) a Brandner-sanctioned remake/refilming/reimaging/reboot? Whatever it was, it was shite.<br>And, another vote here for the Ginger Snaps movies. Class.
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Possibly the best story about Werecars ever made.
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well he looks like he's gonna gnaw on sumptin
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Peter Cushing, Calvin Lockart as a black Great White Hunter, a whodunnit style, the genius of "The Werewolf Break".<p> "The Beast Must Die" really needs a remake. Such a great idea.<p> Just sayin.....
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I truly love it. Nothing else comes close for me. The designs of the werewolves are the best ever.
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I think the Howling teeters on the edge of greatness and is generally good, and quite disturbing in places. But the werewolves in daylight don't sit well with me. Also, the Werepuppy transformation, complete with wet nose, is what just about stops it being perfect.
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There are NOT ENOUGH werewolf movies! THE HOWLING, and AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON are my favorite werewolf movies! Probably the best werewolf movies to be made with some truly amazing transformation scenes. <P> But as some people have mentioned there are a few others movies that are great as well; DOG SOLDIERS, GINGER SNAPS, SILVER BULLET, BAD MOON and THE COMPANY OF WOLVES. Fuck vampires and zombies, WEREWOLVES RULE!
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Werewolves only rule when they are viscious beasts that rip people limb from limb simply because they are nasty bastards (and a bit peckish).<p> The don't rule when they are smooth chested MTV pretty boys with unrequited love for a fellow male speedo model.
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