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Throw me the idol, I throw you the Behind the Scenes Pic of the Day!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes pic! Next to Star Wars and Jaws the Indiana Jones movies awed me as a child. Hell, they still do. Time hasn’t been kind to the most recent installment (I recently rewatched it on Blu-Ray after a triple feature of Raiders through Crusade and I highly recommend never doing that… it underlined every failing of the fourth movie moreso than seeing it cold), but that hasn’t tainted my adoration of the series as a whole. So, I felt like highlighting Dr. Jones in all his glory. I have quite a few BTS pics of the series, but you gotta start with the idol, right? Here’s the pic:

I’m assuming that remote control operates the Idol’s stand, so after Indy incorrectly guestimates the weight of his sandbag that device held by Mr. Spielberg begins the sinking of the stone. If you have a pic you think should be included email me. I’m looking for the iconic, the rare, the just plain cool behind the scenes shots to feature here. See ya’ tomorrow, Indiana Jones. -Quint Follow Me On Twitter

Previous Behind the Scenes pics: - Alien
- Big Trouble In Little China
- Clash of the Titans
- Dr. Strangelove
- Sesame Street
- The Birds
- The Dark Knight
- Batman (1989)
- Batman: The TV Series
- Stephen King’s IT

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  • July 17, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST

    This is getting old

    by oogles


  • July 17, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    My favorite movie

    by Snappy Cumback

    Back when they didn't need to resort to CGI for effects and sets were actually built instead of created in a computer. Awesome pic!

  • July 17, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    very cool

    by Wirraway

    this will never get old

  • July 17, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Love this feature...

    by SK229

    please keep doing it. Also a great way to get a discussion going on older films... not that that's difficult here.

  • July 17, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Harrison looks like he's ready to laugh.

    by RPLocke

    THAT'S the idol!!

  • July 17, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST


    by darthsynn

    If you think this is getting old, don't look at the photos. Go to another site. I'm enjoying this series.

  • July 17, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST

    howabout more than 1 pic for a movie

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

  • July 17, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Not Really Good Enough

    by mondomark

    The problem with this feature is not the idea behind it. The problem is that thus far, all the photos have been poor quality images yanked from somewhere on the internet that aren't even very interesting. Dig out your film reference books Quint - do some scanning. Maybe look at behind-the-scenes stills from Eve Arnold or even Dennis Hopper. In other words MAKE AN EFFORT!!

  • July 17, 2010, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 Haters

    by THX1968

    I just don't get it. I was in awe of the original 3 as a child as well, even Temple Of Doom, which had it's fair share of haters back in the day, but now is revered as it should be. Riddle me this, Batdorks. Is it any more ridiculous to survive a nuclear blast in a lead-lined refrigerator, than an evil shaman ripping a still beating heart out of your chest? Hell, most of you weren't alive when Fonzie jumped the fucking shark, and for the record, I loved that episode. Has anyone even seen any of those old serials? I'm partial to Rocketman, personally. It is all the same awesome fun. I shit you not, time will be kind to Crystal Skull, just like Temple of Doom before it.

  • July 17, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    I Love these Behind The Scenes Pics

    by LOST_FAN

    I've enjoyed every one so far.

  • July 17, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    The Remote-Controlled Idol

    by Acquanetta

    The original plan was to have the idol's eyes move as Indy approached- just a subtle touch to add an element of creepiness- but they were never pleased with any of the results. I'm just guessing, but that's probably what they're checking in the pic.

  • July 17, 2010, 3:50 p.m. CST

    The remote isn't for the pedestal...

    by Aragorn II

    ...or at least I don't think so. If you watch the behind-the-scenes doc on the DVD set for Raiders, you see a brief clip of the back of the idol with mechanical parts and wires clearly visible. I'm assuming at one point the idol itself had some sort of special effect possible (actuated by the remote, I assume), but it was scrapped for some reason. Anyone know any more about this?

  • July 17, 2010, 3:50 p.m. CST


    by Aragorn II

    Get out of my head!!! (And thanks for the info!) :)

  • July 17, 2010, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Dammit, Acquanetta...

    by G Suave

    I was just gonna post that fun fact about the remote controlled idol. I'm glad they dropped it and limited the supernatural stuff to the ark itself.

  • July 17, 2010, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Countdown to the Indy 4 bashers in 5 4 3 2

    by RPLocke

  • July 17, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Re: Indy 4 Haters

    by Acquanetta

    Time will be kind to Indy 4. Do people really believe that audiences 50 years from now are going to think nuking the fridge is anymore ridiculous than some of the other over-the-top moments? For that matter, does anyone really believe that Temple of Doom or Last Crusade would've been well-received in 2008? Both of those films have taken their share of online beatings over the past decade.

  • July 17, 2010, 3:56 p.m. CST

    If Indy 4 was playing on a giant screen in my garden

    by alan_poon

    I'd draw the curtains.

  • July 17, 2010, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Hey THX1968, speaking of serials.

    by punchydugan

    Have you ever seen Spy Smasher or Daredevils of the Red Circle? Those two are my favorites from Republic studios.

  • July 17, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST


    by TheJudger

    There were static eye idols and one the had moving eyes. This is the moving eye idol.

  • July 17, 2010, 4:04 p.m. CST

    "that had moving eyes"

    by TheJudger

    damn I'm really knocking out them typo's today

  • July 17, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Who are the ad wizards...

    by wampa 1

    ...that came up with this one?

  • July 17, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST


    by WeylandYutani

    I tend to a agree with you... Although, even though IJ4 was enjoyable, I personal favourite by far is Raiders - one of the best action films ever made IMO. A shame the rest of the series has never come close to the first outing.

  • July 17, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    u guys should check out the italian 80s indy ripoffs

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    starring david warbeck and made by margherati they were a lotta fun too.

  • July 17, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    by WeylandYutani

  • July 17, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Here's some proof

    by TheJudger <P> <P> <P> <P> <P> <P>

  • July 17, 2010, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Yeah, originally the idols eyes were supposed to open

    by Tacom

    It's in storyboards of the sequence.

  • July 17, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Of course

    by Quint

    I remember reading about that! Very cool! Kinda glad it's just static and creepy, but I probably would have shit myself as a kid if the damn thing was alive

  • July 17, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Well they didnt open

    by TheJudger

    that is an rc servor motor to move them back and forth, with a rubber band anchored inside the head to reset them back to center when the servo stops moving them. Those two round things along the edges of the hair line are magnets to hold the other half of the head on.

  • July 17, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    valid reasons for hating indy 4

    by satansteve

    shia lebeouf, cgi monkeys, vines, shia lebeouf, john hurt given FUCK ALL to do, zombie ninjas, shia lebeouf, the hat, shia lebeouf and shia lebeouf.

  • July 17, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST

    I thought the point of the BTS pics

    by freerangecelt

    was that they came from old sources, like Starlog and the like, and from us, the readers. Back in the day, alot of the BTS pics weren't that great of a quality, b&w, grainy, and sought after. We didn't have spoilers or rumor sites, because, believe it or not, there was no internet. So, I'm enjoying the nostalgia of the pics, if only for the b&w grainy images. I surely can find better quality pics elsewhere, but where else can I find such good company enjoying them, no? BTW, never knew that about the idol!

  • July 17, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Time won't be kind to 90% of the crap these days.

    by Flip63Hole

    I honestly don't think Crystal Skull will be used as anything more than as an example of how bad movies are these days. I don't see it being a part of the Indian Jones universe. It's more a part of the CG Shitfest disease that has infected cinema today. The only thing that would have been worse is if Crystal Skull came out this year, in bad 3-D...

  • July 17, 2010, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Why is there a zombie in the photo?

    by Royston Lodge

    And why isn't he attacking Spielberg and Ford?

  • July 17, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST


    by satansteve

    the aliens, the cop out ending and shia lebeouf.

  • July 17, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST

    John Hurt was in IJ4

    by Phategod2

    wow goes to show much that movie sucked I blame both SPielberg and Lucas for the suckage of IJ4 Spielberg feels the need to shoehorn Shia Lawhatever in everything he produces and Lucas's overblown effects completely take you out of every scene.

  • July 17, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST


    by RPLocke

    So, John Hurt was in Alien, too, for like 10 minutes. What's your point?

  • July 17, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 is Terrific The problem is idiots who don't know what the

    by Proman1984

    And Indy 4 is arguably as good as Crusade or better.

  • July 17, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    oogles is a jerk off

    by Double M

    This is the best column this site has added in a long time. Keep em coming, MOST of us love it.

  • July 17, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST


    by bod33

    The difference is that the 10 mins in Alien had one of the most iconic scenes ever.

  • July 17, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    is the shia le bouet hate, personal..

    by emeraldboy

    or something.I dont really understand.

  • July 17, 2010, 5:04 p.m. CST


    by RPLocke

    Really? too bad the shitty Alien sequels killed that impact. At least indy 4 didn't do that.

  • July 17, 2010, 5:20 p.m. CST

    In the original script, the idol was going to be 13 years old

    by WickedJacob

  • July 17, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST


    by bod33

    While i agree that none of the Alien Sequels are as good as the first, i dont think any of them ruined the series as a whole. Thinking about it Resurrection and any thing with Predator in the title probably did.

  • July 17, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Keep the pics coming

    by Mockingbuddha

    Ignore the haters!

  • July 17, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Loving this feature

    by ragimus

    Sod the haters, these pictures are great and may the continue!

  • July 17, 2010, 5:46 p.m. CST


    by RPLocke

    Alien was a classic, and John Hurt was great in that.

  • July 17, 2010, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 was terrible, but it wasn't just that it was terrible

    by BadMrWonka

    it wasn't an Indiana Jones movie! not even slightly. the spirit of the original films, the commitment to real stunts, the honest-to-god feeling of true was all gone. it was just a standard "throw everything at the screen", ADHD contemporary hollywood CGI shitstorm.<p> I'm 30 years old, and I've seen my share of bad films. but I can say without any hyperbole, that seeing Crystal Skull in the theater was the single most disappointing and truly miserable moviegoing experience of my life. and I saw Crash in theaters! I didn't think anything could ever top that... <p>I was SO excited to see it, I couldn't help but be there opening day, ready to go. and oh my LORD was it bad. I wasn't just sad, I was astonished. the monkeys? I mean, seriously?<p>there's a moment towards the end where Shia's character says something like, "Wow, what just happened?" and I swear half the theater laughed as if to say, "Don't ask us? what the fuck DID just happen though?"<p> I'm truly astonished how anyone over the age of 10 could deem it anything other than a complete pathetic catastrophe of a movie. is it as bad a movie, functionally, as, say, Transformers? no. is it a worse failure of a movie? of course! because it's INDIANA JONES. you bring him back after all these years, all these failed scripts, all of these pitfalls, and THIS IS WHAT WE GET?! the Star Wars prequels were shit, but at least we know they're just a cash grab and Lucas vanity project. Indy 4 was actually supposed to be GOOD. after all of the endless rewrites and different ideas, I thought they were boiling it down to some really good stuff. like, if someone along the line suggested, "hey maybe there are these aliens, and their ship is in a mountain, and these CGI monnkeys..." someone would interrupt them and go, "are you fucking NUTS? do you know how bad we would get eviscerated by fans for pulling this retarded shit?" <p>but instead, someone went, "yeah, CGI everything and make the aliens do this, and the ants are like BWAAAAHH and the monkeys are like WHEEEEE and then there's all the 'splosions and BOOOOOMM and WAAAAAA!!! it'll be so cool!"<p>the worst disappointment EVER in my life as a moviegoer and fan of cinema. it's #1 on the list, seriously. I doubt anything will ever top it.

  • July 17, 2010, 5:51 p.m. CST

    time hasn't been kind?

    by cool_britannia79

    is that a polite way of saying you think skullfuck was shit, because nobody in the talkbacks thought it was any good at the time. so you're either woefully bad at reviewing movies objectively or you were lying when you reviewed it. this isn't aimed at you Quint, more at the site as a whole, but the pass that this site, and most others (Empire most notably) gave crystal skull was shameful for what amounts to the worst film i've ever seen (given the pedigree). the happening is a close second.

  • July 17, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST

    and not for nothing

    by BadMrWonka

    the fridge/nuke thing was stupid, but it's like 38th on the list of terrible things about Crystal Skull. if the rest of the movie had been even passable, I wouldn't have cared about the fridge at all.<p>in fact, I still don't. I wish people would stop mentioning it, because it gives people who (thought I can barely understand how) actually like the movie, an easy, and easy to dismiss, target.<p>please, forget the fucking fridge. the movie was horrible before, during and after that sequence.

  • July 17, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Bad Mr Wonka

    by cool_britannia79

    I would love to get drunk with you and watch Raiders, for you my friend are on my page. The CGI anti communist attack monkeys were the single worst moment I've ever experienced in a cinema. Me and the girl i was with just looked at each other, we couldn't believe anyone gave the green light to such bullshit.

  • July 17, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST

    The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

    by DmitryPortnoy

    In a real Indiana Jones movie, Indie would have survived the nuclear blast by hiding inside the Ark.

  • July 17, 2010, 6 p.m. CST

    Nuking the fridge was actually cool

    by cool_britannia79

    Watching the fridge fly a mile through the air and do more revolutions than a washing machine was not. Great concept, shit delivery. Loved that scene up until the pay off, which is crystal skull in a nutshell, great promise, cack reality.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:01 p.m. CST

    How come Indy destroys half the warehouse

    by cool_britannia79

    But none of the world ending mystical shit inside reacts in any way whatsoever? Absolute bullshit.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST

    No time to argue

    by Denty420

    Adios, senór!

  • July 17, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST


    by RPLocke

    WTF?! The ark was nowhere near the bomb blast. God, people are dumb.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST

    There's no problem with part 4

    by Orionsangels

    It's just another Indiana Jones story. It doesn't effect the other films. It's a fine film. It's not a classic or anything, but I enjoyed it for what it was.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:20 p.m. CST

    I agree and disagree cool_britannia79

    by Orionsangels

    I love that whole sequence. There's something cool about it. The way Spielberg captures the essence of that 50's atomic era. The flying fridge is fun. Indiana Jones has never been about the plausible. It's about the adventure.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST

    shia ledouche

    by satansteve

    he's irritating, gawky and not that great an actor. I mean come on, when you picture the son of indy, does he REALLY fit the bill? Fuck off back to grease, jr.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:33 p.m. CST

    What annoyed me about Indy 4

    by davidwebb

    In the months leading up to the release, George, Spielbergo and the rest of the production team repeated ad nauseum that the emphasis was on practical effects - that there would be little in the way of CGI, and that they were doing it old-school. That's definitely not what I watched. For what it's worth, I liked the fridge, and the rest of the Area 51 scenes. Jim Broadbent was a nice touch, as was Dovchenko, the callback to Pat Roach's roles. The Marshall College chase was great too, but the rest? It was ..questionable. CGI spaceships, interdimensional beings, waterfalls and ants, and the rest of George's unnecessary digital touches, like the prarie dog and the monkeys. So much of it. No childhood rape here, he just missed the mark.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:33 p.m. CST


    by RPLocke

    Are you sure you're not describing your comments? BTW, those are CHARACTERS he is playing.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST

    I'm still trying to figure out the alien's motivation.

    by UltraTron

    They somehow preserve their conscious in their skeletons and if you take away the skull part from the skeleton it takes away the fleshy part. But you put back the skull onto the skeketon part and it all turns back on and skin comes back too. So like what happened was years ago one of the human slaves must have cut off one of the aliens heads to go sell proof of the aliens to another village. It just happened that the aliens had all gathered together in a circle and were using their recharge machine for nourishment or something and were in a state of suspended animation while recharging. Well when their buddy gets his head chopped the machine goes into self defense and preserves the room and locks it all up and freezes everything as is in hopes that the head can be returned. Then when they get it back they just regenerate their bodies and it's all good cause their minds are preserved in their skulls. They pop a wormhole and time travel back to their families and it's all good. It's a good alarm system but they could have used a security guard to keep from having their head chopped in first place.Then when Russian girl is all demanding the alien is like- bitch I just got my head back and can finally go back in time and see my family- you see bitch I've been concious inside my crystal skull all these years trapped and unable to fuck my alien wife and now you are asking me for some shit?! Here take it! His buddies were suspended by the ship's alarm system so they weren't mad.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST


    by RPLocke

    Who gives a fuck if a movie has CG in it? That's just pointless argument to hate a movie because it has CG in it. Inception has a LOT of CG in it, but you don't hear people whining about it.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST


    by davidwebb

    I never said I hated it. It missed the mark with me, relegated to simple popcorn fare. Nothing more. It's largely because so much of it felt out of place in Indy 4. The silly additions like the prarie dogs etc etc. I mean, can you imagine things like that in Raiders? It also nixed the idea that they were making a proper, old-school movie. CG is fine, as long as it has a place in the movie, rather than forming the core of so much of it.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Scarlett Johansson's Breast Milk understands me

    by davidwebb

    Never thought I'd say that.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:52 p.m. CST

    don't care if something's CGI...

    by BadMrWonka

    as long as it doesn't look like a goddamn cartoon. the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park looked better than the monkeys and that was OVER A DECADE EARLIER.<p>the CGI monkeys weren't terrible because they were CGI, they were terrible because they were TERRIBLE CGI.

  • July 17, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    George Lucas has banned David (Darth Vader) Prowse

    by jimmy rabbitte

    Lucas has banned David Prowse, from attending conventions and cast reunions. Apparently Lucas thinks Prowse leaked the story point, of Vader's death, back before 'Jedi' was released... Also, Prowse contends he has not received his proper residuals, from 'Jedi'.<p>

  • July 17, 2010, 7:07 p.m. CST

    There's nothing wrong with CGI

    by MattmanReturns

    It's the bullshit that it gets used for, and the lazy way in which it is often implemented.

  • July 17, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns That's just opinion

    by RPLocke

    You're slamming STORY POINTS, and not CG. Don't say the CG was bad in Skull because it obviously wasn't. Okay you didn't like the gophers, but the eating scene in TOD is cute too and played for laughs.

  • July 17, 2010, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Great pics. Keep them coming.

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    One of my favorite movies of all time. I picked up the history of the movies not that long ago. Great book. Recommend it to anyone.

  • July 17, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST

    "Don't say the CG was bad in Skull because it obviously wasn't."

    by BadMrWonka

    um...I don' words...can't...don't understand...the cartoon monkeys...they were...and the cartoon ants...they just...<p>there are no words.

  • July 17, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST


    by RPLocke

    yeah, I knew this thread was going to degrade to "I hate Indy 4 BS".

  • July 17, 2010, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 Wasn't What I Expected...

    by bre32

    ...which is exactly how I felt about parts 2 and 3 back in the 80s. It's a fun movie that can sit comfortably alongside the other two sequels. The arguments against it always seem to fall into two distinct categories: Either a childish rant full of expletives and hyberbole, or a sob story presented from the POV of someone who places the original three on a ridiculously lofty pedestal. There's no way the film was ever going to be made *exactly* like it would've been in the 1980s. Just as the first three weren't made exactly like a film from the 1960s. People seem to forget that in addition to practical stunts and sets, the original trilogy also utilized cutting-edge f/x.

  • July 17, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    good pic quint

    by Logan_1973

    See if you can rassle one up from one with Sir Sean maybe?

  • July 17, 2010, 7:56 p.m. CST

    indy 4 was ok...

    by The_Cliffster

    .... apart from lame last 20 minutes....

  • July 17, 2010, 7:56 p.m. CST

    And by the way...

    by Logan_1973

    Indy 4 blew and you all know it. Aside from the crap CGI and unconvincing peril, the biggest mistake was revealing the macguffin so early in the film. After the Area 51 reveal, there was absolutely no intrigue whatsoever. Awful writing. After 20 years I think we deserved a better script.

  • July 17, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    raiders of the lost ark is the daddy.....

    by The_Cliffster

    ... nothing else comes close.....

  • July 17, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST


    by Logan_1973

    The CG in Jurassic Park was better than what we got in Indy 4.

  • July 17, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST

    The ANTS were cool!

    by RPLocke

    That was a great fight with the Russian and the ants around them. Very cliffhanger. I think fans wanted DARK INDY, and they didn't get it.

  • July 17, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    first off, when people use 'degrade' as an intransitive verb, it always sounds off, even if it's technically accepted. I think you mean 'devolve'. <p> but more importantly, it's an easy go-to for anyone that likes a movie that almost universally derided, to anticipate people discussing it and go , "oh, cue the haters" or something like that. it's a corny middle-school debate tactic that's meant to make it seem like anyone who, subsequent to your amazing prediction, says anything negative about the film is a drooling idiot, or a sheep.<p>well, I am not an idiot or a sheep (though I am drooling, but that's just cause I like to). as I wrote before, I'm not passively hating Indy4. I'm not doing it because it's "cool" to do so. I'm not doing it because I'm a negative person. I'm doing it because I FUCKING HATE THE MOVIE!!<p>I'm doing it because I was hopeful, and excited to see it. and in virtually every way imaginable, it didn't just let me down, but kicked me while I was down as well. it was, as I said, the single most miserable experience I have ever had watching a movie.<p>can you think of what that is for you? now imagine you are talking about that film, and its failings, and how it disappointed you, and someone goes, "yeah yeah, here are the haters, durrrrr" well that's how I feel.<p>and I have to say, I've seen plenty of people try to defend this loathsome movie. mostly it's because people love the franchise, and they can't bear to admit how ruinous Indy 4 was to it, and I understand that. sometimes, they're just stupid, and will be entertained by anything (and I'm NOT putting you in that category), but truly, you are the ONLY person I have EVER spoken to, who has no problem with the CG. I thought it was LAUGHABLY bad, and considering the budget, it looks more hurried than almost any CG I have seen on film. I mean, for all their promises of real people and real stunts, they failed to mention that those real people would be doing their "real" stunts in front of a green screen, which would then be fed into a myriad of horrible backdrops and completely unconvincing digital matte paintings.<p>I mean fuck, the monkeys are terrible, through and through. they are not real monkeys, they are not BASED on real monkeys, they are cartoons. but there was bad CG EVERYWHERE. they used horrible green screen transitions on shots that they didn't even need to! just because Lucas told Spielberg, "oh don't worry about GOING anywhere, we can film it all in my basement and make it look like whatever we want later!"<p>look at this screenshot:<p> <p>two people talking, and they STILL had to shoot it on a fake green screen set, and it looks TERRIBLE. Sci-Fi Channel terrible. they couldn't even be bothered to mimic the focal length properly, the buildings in the background should be have WAY more bokeh, judging from the closer trucks.<p>if the story was compelling, I could overlook some, if not most of the HORRENDOUS technical production choices. and if the movie looked good enough, I could let slide a lame, convoluted and ultimately pretty insipid story. but you put those two things together, and you get, well, the worst experience I've ever had in a movie theater.<p>and I had a dude throw up on my leg in Germany...this was worse than that. AND worse than seeing Haggis' Crash. (the vomit barely beat that one out)

  • July 17, 2010, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Weak CGI

    by Acquanetta

    The cgi is no worse than some of the noticeably weak f/x in the previous sequels. Think of the bluescreen shots during Temple's raft escape or Crusade's zeppelin takeoff. Or the sheer number of (painfully obvious) dummies they used for the stunts in Temple. And can you imagine how "realism"-craving fans in 2008 would've reacted to Ford and Connery sitting in that ridiculous bi-plane mockup? As much it probably pains all the fans fresh out of film school, the goal of an Indiana Jones sequel has never been to provide flawless filmmaking. They're just supposed to be fun.

  • July 17, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST

    indy 5

    by alice133

    zombie indy vs zombie nazis!!

  • July 17, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    But what does God need with a Starship?

    by davidwebb

  • July 17, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Holmes was lucky

    by davidwebb

    Expectations weren't so high, I guess.

  • July 17, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    "often its seamless and you're totally unaware"<p>that's exactly my point. in Indy 4 it was seamful and I was aware.

  • July 17, 2010, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Iron Man 2 had great CG and a good story

    by RPLocke

    I think Iron Man 1 has the best use of CG in a LOOONG time.

  • July 17, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST

    what are we arguing here?

    by BadMrWonka

    I agree that CG can be a great tool. I agree there are examples of great CG. I agree CG can service a story well. none of these things have anything to do with Indy 4...

  • July 17, 2010, 8:54 p.m. CST

    the fx in Indy 1-3

    by Logan_1973

    At the time were groundbreaking. They gave us visuals we had never seen before. In Indy 4, there was nothing new, nothing that blazed new trails. It's forgivable to use CG in an Indy film, but not CRAP CG that wouldnt convince a 10 year old.

  • July 17, 2010, 9:12 p.m. CST

    lol the FX in Indy 1 were stolen from serial westerns

    by Arcadian Del Sol

    There was nothing groundbreaking in Indy 1. Every stunt was a frame-for-frame theft of something already done in another movie.

  • July 17, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Holy shit

    by redkamel

    is someone trying to justify the piece of crap that was Indy 4? Please just stop. Especially the nuke the fridge part<p>See, when you make a movie, the audience suspends a certain level of disbelief. The Indy level of disbelief is like every action movie: hes a good shot, he runs into people, the whip always works. Flying through a nuclear blast in a fridge is from a slapstick cartoon. Heres how they could have made it more real. He pushes the fridge down into a cellar/hole, and hides in it. An enemy soldier tries to get in and Indy slams them in the face then shuts the door just in time. He opens it after the blast and there is a charred shadow/skeleton on the fridge. That would have been passable.<p>Also, the whole aliens plot made no sense. Indiana Jones has always been about the occult/Christianity. Throwing in Aliens is stupid. I know they wanted to make it 1950s...but just stick with nukes being powerd by religious texts or contained by spells, or telepathy or something.

  • July 17, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

  • July 17, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Actually it was the remote for the boulder

    by tangcameo

    Okay I'm lying but wouldn't that have been cool?

  • July 17, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    i didn't realize doc brown was in raiders....

    by iwasredempted

    i'll have to watch it again. damn time travel always fucking shit up.

  • July 17, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    I always remember how bad the bridge in Indy 3 looked

    by RPLocke

    It looked SO fake when Indy threw sand on it.

  • July 17, 2010, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Isn't the zombie gay DP Douglas Sclocombe?

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Ah, for the days when Spielberg films didn't all have blown-out, fuzzy Kaminsi backlighting and lens flares all over the fucking place...

  • July 17, 2010, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Zombie GUY

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Honestly, Harry, it's two-thousand-fucking-TEN, can't you offer a goddamn edit feature?!

  • July 17, 2010, 9:50 p.m. CST

    I was confused for a moment

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    Was like oh shit what did I do? Fun pic though.

  • July 17, 2010, 10 p.m. CST

    adios senor


  • July 17, 2010, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Bullshit RKDN

    by Logan_1973

    Yes you're right RAIDERS had stunt-homages all over the place, but the FX blazed new trails. The face-melting thing had not been seen before and fucked eyeballs everywhere at the time.

  • July 17, 2010, 10:32 p.m. CST

    BadMrWonka, I like Crystal Skull and I didn't expect more..

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    The storytelling style, attempts at humor, and synchronization of effects completely fit in with The Last Crusade. It was a sequel to The Last Crusade as much as The Temple of Doom was a prequel to Raiders. Plus a bunch nutheads actually believe that aliens are extra-dimensional; more people probably more believe in that than in the Holy Grail. Earth is definitely the trailer park of the universe.

  • July 17, 2010, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Sorry about the extra "more" in the last sentence.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    Love that EDIT button!

  • July 17, 2010, 10:37 p.m. CST

    I kind of agree with the haters here...

    by Ironhelix

    ...Indy 4 was not a good movie. I don't just mean that it didn't live up to the other 3, I mean that it was not even a good movie on it's own merits. I really don't understand how you guys can think that "time will be kind to Indy 4". I think time will tell otherwise.

  • July 17, 2010, 10:44 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed Indy 4 more than TOD

    by RPLocke

    That's the Indy movie I've watched least.

  • July 17, 2010, 10:45 p.m. CST

    should watch temple first, then raiders and crusade


    i enjoy them more in that order, they kind of pyramid in quality then. i do like crystal skull.

  • July 17, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    "Look at this!"

    by GroolDemon

    Mr Ford said as he chuckled, pointing at the little golden idol. "Why does it look like it is pooping?"

  • July 17, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    hated the cgi blade at the end of crusade as a kid


    more than the invisible bridge or wahtever. love the movie though.

  • July 17, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST


    by theycallmemrtibbs

  • July 17, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Ever notice Indy never really gets to keep anything?

    by RPLocke

    In Raiders, the FBI guys take the ark, in TOD, he gives the rocks back to the villiage, in Crusade he lets the Idol go, and in Skull, the aliens fly away.

  • July 17, 2010, 11:03 p.m. CST

    He keeps the Hat....

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    That's all that matters.

  • July 17, 2010, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Yeah but I can easily tell that every practicle effect ever

    by UltraTron

    done is a miniature or latex or bluescreened or split screened or forced perspective. I can see the brush strokes in every matte painting too. So what in the fuck are we talking about because I've seen flawless digital where there ain't nothin to give it away. Btw- just saw weta test for rise of the apes and it's a gorilla walking. Then you realize that it's digital but the one behind it is real. Absolutely nothing whatsoever to give it away.

  • July 17, 2010, 11:26 p.m. CST

    I don't mind the cheesy/unrealistic moments.

    by beastie

    I just thought that the ants in the movie and the rest of the script made Indy 4 feel like part of the Mummy franchise, which I don't hate, but I don't love either. It was just there, which was more disappointing that if it was downright bad.</p><p>I think Raiders and Doom were the only great films in the series. Crusade just felt like they were trying to extract Raiders' best moments and distill them through the father/son relationship. I also really dig some of the episodes of The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. I really feel that the show held up well.

  • July 17, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST

    George Lucas banned David Prowse from Star Wars events...

    by davywankenobi

  • July 17, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    So I was wondering...

    by davywankenobi

    Can the fans ban George Lucas from having anything to do with Star Wars too? Here's the link...

  • July 17, 2010, 11:42 p.m. CST

    You people are such whiners

    by Dr. Hfuhruhurr

    And you need to stop blaming Lucas for everything you hate about 4. From what i've heard the monkeys were Spielberg's idea. You think he just took orders from Lucas like he's some meek idiot? The man's an Oscar winning director and a good friend of George. He's not going to do something he doesn't approve of. If there is anything bad about the movie then he has as much to do with it as anyone.

  • July 17, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 haters please read

    by Yelsaeb

    Indy 4 was a perfectly fine Indy movie. CGI was used for the stuff they couldn't do physically. Could they throw their actors off a waterfall? No, so they used a combination of minatures and CGI. Could they make a UFO come out of the ground and teleport away? No, so they built a minature valley, caved it in with water, then put the UFO and every thing else in with CGI. Could they wrangle man eating ants? No, so they called in the CGI guys. And all the stunts where real. There where no CGI stunt men in the movie. Harrison Ford even did most his own stunts, despite his age. How do I know this? I bought the DVD, and learned alot. The car chase was real. CGI was used to put in foliage and the big casm. Now, I do beleive the monkeys were one of the stupidest things I've ever seen, and the gophers weren't so great either, but overall I think Indy 4 was pretty good. I think its better than Temple of Doom, too. And why is every one crying about the nuked fridge? Thats a classic Indy situation! He gets himself into a life or death situation and comes out the other end unscathed because of a conveintly place object. I love it!

  • July 17, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Even the idol got the Ford Finger of Doom

    by Phimseto

    Goodness gracious.

  • July 18, 2010, 12:01 a.m. CST


    by Logan_1973

    Nice effort, but lets keep it real: the CG was unconvincing (which leads to NO peril), and the whole plot was given away too early.

  • July 18, 2010, 12:02 a.m. CST


    by RPLocke

    Whatever dickwad. Go whine and make your cheap Youtube video.

  • July 18, 2010, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Indy 4 was better than Last Crusade!!!!!!

    by DioxholsterReturns

    fuck you haters i luved the nuke and the fridge!!!!!

  • July 18, 2010, 12:13 a.m. CST

    PS, FU davywankenobi

    by Logan_1973


  • July 18, 2010, 12:26 a.m. CST


    by nolan bautista

    i agree..Crusade is the weakest link..and that great shot of Indy looking at the mushroom was Dr.Jones entering the Atomic Age

  • July 18, 2010, 12:46 a.m. CST

    The one thing I liked about Indy 4

    by disfigurehead

    is Indy's reaction when he first sees Marion. Classic. Other than that fuck it.

  • July 18, 2010, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Yes! You used the one I sent you!

    by dasheight

    ...unless you also had the same pic, in which case, well - never mind. :-)

  • July 18, 2010, 1:06 a.m. CST

    im trying my best not to read INCEPTION reviews

    by DioxholsterReturns

    i wanna see it unspoiled. is Nolan still considered a God after this though?

  • July 18, 2010, 1:08 a.m. CST

    can someone explain the china ufo thing to me?

    by DioxholsterReturns

    why isnt anyone taking it seriously? if this happened in the US, news networks would be up all night discussing it

  • July 18, 2010, 1:12 a.m. CST

    RT has Indy 4 ranked pretty high

    by RPLocke

    Isn't that the new hip movie rating site?

  • July 18, 2010, 1:48 a.m. CST

    Raiders is better than any Star Wars movie

    by Monolith_Jones

    That film's just about perfect.I like them all. They all got their charm. I still haven't watched Crystal Skull again since seeing it in the theater. I will one day.

  • July 18, 2010, 2:01 a.m. CST

    btw, hottest woman ever right here

    by DioxholsterReturns

    check out the One Active Colony site: <p> <p> just looking at her gives you a a mega-boner!

  • July 18, 2010, 2:05 a.m. CST

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  • July 18, 2010, 2:13 a.m. CST

    Indy 4

    by Ninkynonk

    I don't know about anyone else but or me the whole nuke the fridge thing wasn't really what I didn't like about Indy 4. I didn't even mind the vine swinging Shia. I just found the movie didn't really make any sense. And it was pretty boring, despite everything that was happening on the screen. Now go back and think about the truck scene in Raiders. That was a goddamn action scene. Don't you feel those punches when that Nazi guy is pounding on Indy's gunshot-wounded arm? Ouch.

  • July 18, 2010, 2:38 a.m. CST

    what didnt make sense?

    by DioxholsterReturns

    it was more realistic than the previous three. raiders was a comedy in the vain of 'Hangover' movie, temple of doom had indy turn evil, last crusade was a boring repetitive mess with anti-climatic hitler camo. indy 4 didnt have these flaws.

  • July 18, 2010, 2:46 a.m. CST

    Makes perfect sense.

    by UltraTron

    They somehow preserve their conscious in their skeletons and if you take away the skull part from the skeleton it takes away the fleshy part. But you put back the skull onto the skeketon part and it all turns back on and skin comes back too. So like what happened was years ago one of the human slaves must have cut off one of the aliens heads to go sell proof of the aliens to another village. It just happened that the aliens had all gathered together in a circle and were using their recharge machine for nourishment or something and were in a state of suspended animation while recharging. Well when their buddy gets his head chopped the machine goes into self defense and preserves the room and locks it all up and freezes everything as is in hopes that the head can be returned. Then when they get it back they just regenerate their bodies and it's all good cause their minds are preserved in their skulls. They pop a wormhole and time travel back to their families and it's all good. It's a good alarm system but they could have used a security guard to keep from having their head chopped in first place.Then when Russian girl is all demanding the alien is like- bitch I just got my head back and can finally go back in time and see my family- you see bitch I've been concious inside my crystal skull all these years trapped and unable to fuck my alien wife and now you are asking me for some shit?! Here take it! His buddies were suspended by the ship's alarm system so they weren't mad.

  • July 18, 2010, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Funniest thing about Indy 4 defenders

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    And this goes for prequel trilogy defenders, too. It's their age. You can fucking bet your last dollar that one of 'em was actually born IN THE '80s or '90s!!! It'll say so right there in their handle -- PoleSmoker1983 or Apologist1991 or ExcuseMaker1987.<p>And I love how they think if they repeat that KOTCS was "decent" or "good" or that all the others (or some particular one of the others) was "just as cheesy/shitty" often enough that they'll somehow, someway change the opinion of everybody else.<p>And I ESPECIALLY love THIS one -- <p>"Indy 4 haters please read by Yelsaeb"<p>"Indy 4 was a perfectly fine Indy movie." (What an amazing argument! I've never heard that before! Wow. I am totally convinced!)<p>"CGI was used for the stuff they couldn't do physically. Could they throw their actors off a waterfall? No, so they used a combination of minatures and CGI. Could they make a UFO come out of the ground and teleport away? No, so they built a minature valley, caved it in with water, then put the UFO and every thing else in with CGI. Could they wrangle man eating ants? No, so they called in the CGI guys. And all the stunts where real. There where no CGI stunt men in the movie." (How 'bout stunt monkeys? And is it your contention, sir, that those were real men playing Soviet soldiers climbing down the cliff that got smacked by the tree that whiplashed after Indy and crew rode it into the river? LMAO at the naivete of youth! "Dude the featurette SAID that there were no CGI stunt men!" LOL!)<p>"Harrison Ford even did most his own stunts, despite his age." (Why, my word! I shall henceforth completely be convinced by all of you who insist that the movie is good! Nothing is more convincing about the quality of a theatrical endeavor than whether or not a sixty-six year old man "did his own [for the most part, poor] stunts.")<p>"How do I know this? I bought the DVD, and learned alot." (Although, obviously, no one taught you not to waste your money. Hey, I've both some ocean front property AND a bridge that I'm looking to get rid of. How much money you got left?)<p>"The car chase was real. CGI was used to put in foliage and the big casm." (This statement proves absolutely and without a doubt that you certainly CAN fool some of the people some of the time... but only if they're already fools! No CGI stunt men! LOL! Though, of course, who am I gonna believe - my own eyes or what you insist is in the KOTCS behind-the-scenes stuff?)<p>"Now, I do beleive the monkeys were one of the stupidest things I've ever seen, and the gophers weren't so great either, but overall I think Indy 4 was pretty good. I think its better than Temple of Doom, too." (That is some amazing logic, to me. In a movie, you see - "one of the stupidest things" you've ever seen, but the movie is still "perfectly fine" and "a perfectly fine" Indy movie! Sigh.)<p>"And why is every one crying about the nuked fridge? Thats a classic Indy situation! He gets himself into a life or death situation and comes out the other end unscathed because of a conveintly place object. I love it!" (Yes, absolutely! Remember the time when the star was about to go supernova in that one movie and Indy dove into the breadbox and rode the solar wave outta there! Whew! Or how 'bout the time that the volcano was gonna explode and Indy used bamboo stilts to wade across the lava and not burn himself! Good thing those bamboo stilts were in that Inuit fisherman's ice hut! Oh, oh! And the time that Indy used the rodeo clown costume as a parachute to make it out of the crashing plane in the hurricane! And didn't you know that Harrison Ford actually DID all those things! For real. Seriously. It says it right here on page 113 of the "Apologists' Guide to Watching Indy!")<p>I'll notice that you've completely ignored many of the other complaints that most of us have with the story - Mutt, damsel-in-distress and poorly used Karen Allen, sleepwalking Harrison, the inane plot, the aliens. But please don't let that stand in the way of your insisting that something was "pretty good" because a lying liar on a DVD featurette told you that the car chase was "real" and that there were no CGI stunt men in the movie!<p>Let me help you KOTCS apologists. One day, you're gonna be just like the prequel trilogy apologists - waking up and wondering why the FUCK you spent so much time trying to convince everyone that a shit sandwich was actually DEEEEElicious! Mmm mmm mmm!<p>Well, a shit sandwich is NOT DEEEEElicious, the prequel trilogy, for the most part, sucked, and KOTCS was a very, very, very, very far slide down from the lofty heights of the other Indy flicks.<p>One day, you're going to be able to judge based upon something other than your emotional reaction to seeing Indy back on the big screen again, using something closer to objectivity. When that day comes, I promise you that we'll try not to make fun of you for your childish exuberance at this time. But, like a horrible school photo that always seems to pop up at family gatherings for everyone to laugh at, I can't PROMISE you that we won't be chuckling.<p>LOL! No CGI stunt men, my ass! Wonder what those strangely simplistic looking "real" Soviet soldiers on that cliff got paid to get smacked with that "clearly" "real" tree and fall into that "obviously" "real" water! Ah, youth! You'll buy any lie! LMAO!

  • July 18, 2010, 2:55 a.m. CST

    The Bicycle Share

    by RPLocke

    I feel the same way about Serenity defenders.

  • July 18, 2010, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Well, fuck you hater haters right back, Diox

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    I hated the nuke and the fridge and the movie and KOTCS was NOT better than The Last Crusade. It wasn't even better than an episode of Brisco County.

  • July 18, 2010, 2:57 a.m. CST

    The Bicycle Sharer

    by RPLocke

    Are you the guy that filmed the 90 minutes of himself slamming Phantom Menace on Youtube?

  • July 18, 2010, 2:59 a.m. CST

    And here's what happens in Lost Highway-

    by UltraTron

    Lost Highway is about a demon who has served Lucifer so well over the ages that Lucifer has granted him a normal life as a man. He has no memory of his life as demon and is happily married. When his wife cheats on him and frames him for murder the devil springs him from jail by switching his body with another human's. We even see the people reacting as that person is teleported in bill pullman's place. Then the devil trys to remind his friend that he was a demon while helping him get revenge on the fuckers who ruined his mortal life. It was supposed to be a perfect mortal life vacation as a musician fucking all the time.

  • July 18, 2010, 2:59 a.m. CST

    The other guy in the photograph

    by palimpsest

    looks like Douglas Slocombe, the director of photography. He was DoP on the first three Indy films, did work on CE3K, and movies like ROLLERBALL, NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN, THE GREAT GATSBY, THE ITALIAN JOB and most of the Ealing comedies of the 1950s (THE MAN IN THE WHITE SUIT, THE LAVENDER HILL MOB, KIND HEARTS AND CORONETS etc).

  • July 18, 2010, 3:03 a.m. CST


    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Whatever the movie (and I'm okay with Serenity), I don't understand anyone trying to convince someone else to change their opinion about it. Especially at this late point. I mean, seriously, each side has heard the other's case. Who is someone gonna sway by repeating it again?<p>"Oh, dude, I totally didn't get it the 4,623 times that your side said it, but Indy IV WAS a great flick! My bad!"<p>What's especially amusing, though, is using the patently false claims of a DVD featurette as some sort of proof to bolster your case. Swear to God, if I ever get to participate in a "behind-the-scenes, making of" featurette, I'm gonna constantly talk about how everything you see is fake and nobody likes each other and how the director sucks and that the nude scene was gratuitous 'cause the producer just wanted to see that actress's titties!

  • July 18, 2010, 3:04 a.m. CST


    by The Bicycle Sharer

    LOL! WTF?!?!? Uh, no.

  • July 18, 2010, 3:05 a.m. CST


    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!?!? Lost Highway - demons and Lucifer? That post officially goes in my top ten all-time favorite AICN posts.

  • July 18, 2010, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Any defenders (or "haters") of anything 'round here

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    I mean, it's one thing if that shit is fresh and everybody's trying to determine how they feel about it and what they think 'cause maybe they've only seen it a time or two and maybe some of the flaws haven't stuck out yet. Then maybe I could understand trying to convince someone.<p>But these arguments two years later? I mean, it's like trying to convince a dude that's been married for two years that his wife sucks... with info that he knew BEFORE he married her!

  • July 18, 2010, 3:16 a.m. CST

    Seriously Lost Highway a supernatural epic. Teleport

    by UltraTron

    scene is when Lucifer busts his demon luitenant out of jail. It's a demon jailbreak like any ol western. Then they go get revenge.

  • July 18, 2010, 3:17 a.m. CST

    what didnt make sense was War of the Worlds

    by DioxholsterReturns

    that movie didnt make sense, not even tom cruise murdering that guy

  • July 18, 2010, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Demon jailbreak!

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Thanks, UltraTron!

  • July 18, 2010, 3:21 a.m. CST

    remember when indy 4 script was said to be racist???

    by DioxholsterReturns

    and lucas had to rewrite it so it wont be racist? what was racist about it exactly?

  • July 18, 2010, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Tom Cruise murdering that guy made PERFECT sense

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    He was killing his own homosexual tendencies. Tim Robbins symbolized Tom's own desire to make with the dick-sucking. Therefore, he had to die. What? I'm the only guy that got that?

  • July 18, 2010, 3:22 a.m. CST

    What was racist about Indy IV?

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Meesa not be knowin' dat, boss!

  • July 18, 2010, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Indy IV racism

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    A character named Carjack Binks who keeps singing 'bout his "mammy" then making with the big eyes (like Rochester) during scary scenes?

  • July 18, 2010, 3:26 a.m. CST


    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Homo, hetero, Tom just knew he had to kill him before the dick-sucking started. On-screen. Two or three at a time. ("Look, Tom Cruise has Seaman on his back!")

  • July 18, 2010, 3:27 a.m. CST

    Look, Tom Cruise has Seaman on his back!

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Sluuuuuuurp! Not anymore.

  • July 18, 2010, 3:28 a.m. CST


    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Tom Cruise just swallowed Seaman!

  • July 18, 2010, 3:32 a.m. CST

    There was no need for another Indy; they

    by Dingbatty

    rode off into the sunset in the third installment. Though, if Ford hadn't wanted to make dull Tom Clancy movies in the 90's, they could've continued making a few more sequels and hand it over. They really need to pass the director torches and the hat and whip onto a new actor. Set it back in the 30's.

  • July 18, 2010, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Oh, and someone please re-ban

    by Dingbatty


  • July 18, 2010, 3:35 a.m. CST

    The telescopic probe symbolizes Tom's need

    by UltraTron

    for everyone to take a big step back so he can literally fuck their face.

  • July 18, 2010, 3:35 a.m. CST

    why not make Indy at present time?

    by DioxholsterReturns

    have him fighting al quaeda or taliban or mexican druglords or tea party or north korea or alien invasion or BP.

  • July 18, 2010, 3:38 a.m. CST

    Axe Cop makes more sense than War of the Worlds

    by DioxholsterReturns

  • July 18, 2010, 3:39 a.m. CST

    It'd be CGI now

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    The magic in movie making is dead.

  • July 18, 2010, 3:42 a.m. CST

    check out this Axe Cop cover art. totally bad ass. take not holl

    by DioxholsterReturns

  • July 18, 2010, 3:44 a.m. CST

    Breast Milk-- what do you think of this chick?

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  • July 18, 2010, 3:44 a.m. CST

    I'll take my script for Indy 4 over all this shit.

    by UltraTron

    My idea was called Indiana Jones and the Lost World of the Dinosaurs. Instead we got Sam Neil wearing indy's hat when that tech became available. Could've been a different world where Indy ushered in the digital age and the jeep scene would have been a WW2 jeep instead. Indy would have been on a skull island-like island that broke off and remained preserved with just the right circumstances for an island of ravenous dinos. He could have saved kids from a tree- people would have shit to see digital dinos for the first time with Indy. Ok didn't happen but it's fun that I had the idea before Jurassic park

  • July 18, 2010, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Oh and cg is more magic than anything and made

    by UltraTron

    with painstaking care by the top artists in their fields. Rick Baker sculpts in Zbrush and brings his years of experience across perfectly into the digital realm. Art is art my young friends- go enjoy the myriad wonders of a universe beyond your wildest imagination

  • July 18, 2010, 3:52 a.m. CST

    instead of defending things in Indy 4 vaguely

    by BadMrWonka

    can someone give me a list of what they specifically LIKED about the movie? what was good in it? what parts pleasantly surprised you? what parts captured the spirit of the Indiana Jones franchise? <p>also, what brand of helmet do you guys wear?<p>ok, that was uncalled for, I apologize.<p>but honestly, I outlined a LOT of specific things above that I think go beyond subjective opinion, and into the territory of actual mistakes and failures of omission.<p>since no one seems to want to address those specifically (which I find telling), can you at least provide a counterpoint? because all I seem to be hearing is, "it's great fun! wowee zowee! shut up haters!!"<p>and no offense, that's the same thing that the 11-year-olds in the talkbacks were saying about Transformers. I know Indy is supposed to be fun, and I WANTED it to be fun. but STUPID and FUN are not interchangeable. the other 3 movies are GREAT fun, and especially Raiders is pretty light-hearted a lot of the time, but you never had to turn your brain off to watch them. never. not once.<p>I grant that there were a few moments in Crystal Skull that reminded me of the other films (the blow dart thing is a great example) but they were so few and far between, they made me more sad than happy. I could see these little bits and pieces of a good new Indy movie in there, but they were buried in this avalanche of sub-standard throw-everything-at-the-screen bullshit. <p>I guess the saddest thing about Crystal Skull (although it's hard to choose) is that I didn't feel Spielberg's presence ANYWHERE in the film. if I had been shown it without any prior knowledge, I would have guessed it was Stephen Sommers. lost of mediocre to bad CG? check. bad character development? check. fast-paced but unengaging action pieces? check. huge spectacle wide shots with pathetically obvious CG work? check. ridiculous CG mummies? (well...aliens) check.

  • July 18, 2010, 4:05 a.m. CST

    Indy 4 sucked. I like Raiders and I love the music

    by UltraTron

    in temple of DOOM. My favorite starwars is Terror of the Mechanauts.

  • July 18, 2010, 4:41 a.m. CST

    Raiders is flawless. Maybe the best movie ever made.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • July 18, 2010, 5:20 a.m. CST

    Raiders can never be made nowadays

    by DioxholsterReturns

    coz its racist overtones are quite...racist.

  • July 18, 2010, 5:21 a.m. CST

    The chase scene at the beginning of CASINO ROYALE

    by BenBraddock

    was way more thrilling than any of the action scenes in KOTCS. Fact. Know why? Cos it was all real people doing real stunts. What hurt the most on SKULL is that we were promised practical but given digital, seemingly out of pure laziness. And CG, no matter how brilliantly done, cannot match filming real life. On an INDY movie, that's an unforgivable sin.

  • July 18, 2010, 5:38 a.m. CST

    Wow. Is that YODA on the set?

    by hallmitchell

    What a triage!

  • July 18, 2010, 7:19 a.m. CST

    I liked the train car fight. I liked nuking the fridge.

    by Autodidact

    I wanted to kill the guy sitting next to me though.

  • July 18, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Did Crystal Skull...

    by Dave Bowman

    ...have a single scene that was even 10% as exciting, as gritty, as involving, as tense, as fun, and yet as believable as the truck scene in Raiders? Which was an actual stunt scene made with real men and real trucks? On real roads?

  • July 18, 2010, 8:33 a.m. CST

    oh shucks superman 2 is on the tele right now

    by JackGraham

    i grew up watching this film, everyone has a childhood film and this ones mine, love it. "i'm terribly sorry abt all the damage sir ... oh ive eh .. been working out" ...... best of all superman movies.

  • July 18, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    good stuff, brings tear to my eye

    by frg10

  • July 18, 2010, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Crystal Skull's score was pretty forgettable too

    by davidwebb

    Not counting the obvious tracks. John Williams' output has been pretty lacklustre the last decade or so, Revenge of the Sith being one of the very few exceptions.

  • July 18, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Ford Is Saying, "In 20, 30 Years, When George Ruins This"

    by LaserPants

    "Can I still keep the prop? As a reminder of when he had some shred of soul and talent?"

  • July 18, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST

    childhood nostalgia blinds a lot

    by Bouncy X

    those who didnt like Indy 4 will one day be in their 50s or 60s and run into some kid in their 20s or 30s who loves Indy 4 the same way you love the first 3 and you'll hopefully realize how rosey things looked through the eyes of childhood. i mean its no surprise that EVERY movie people are calling classics and awesome and complaining how they dont do it that way, each and every one of them was a movie you all saw as a kid. now i'm sure some talkbackers are already older and will argue they were adults then but they are a very big minority.

  • July 18, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    The remote is for the eyes, which used to look human

    by JT Kirk

    The original version of the prop had movable eyes, and they weren't originally gold, they had a very human quality to the design. But it looked... wrong, so out it goes.

  • July 18, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Harrison Ford is saying...

    by The Dark Shite

    I so wanna give a review of Predators!!! But I can't.

  • July 18, 2010, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Um. Bouncy X. Raiders is a flawless movie. I've

    by UltraTron

    seen it. Trust me it's pretty much flawless. Indy 4 is a movie with a Shia-monkey. This isn't a nostalgia issue.

  • July 18, 2010, 1:23 p.m. CST

    How come Spielberg's hats didn't fit in the 80s?

    by CherryValance

    They always seem way too big.

  • July 18, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    The obvious use of blue/green screen

    by Koborover

    No matter how many years they've spent improving it, you can always see that characters are projected against a fake sky or whatever because the lighting is off. I thought this fakeness was very obvious in Indy IV, for instance during the first scenes at the warehouse. Indy movies don't need that shit, they're about real locations and real stunts (like the James Bond series).

  • July 18, 2010, 1:50 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Indy 4 is shit, deal with it. Andthis is coming from somebody who loves the first two Indy movies dearly, Temple Of Doom from day one and even during the Dumb Era when it was classified as a bad movie. But not so much for LAST CRUSADE. In fact, Last Crusade is crap as well.

  • July 18, 2010, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Ford wasn't sleepwalking, the script was...

    by SK229

    I'm old enough to have had Raiders on a bootleg BETA tape, and seen TOD and TLC in theaters... the latter multiple times, so I grew up with Indy and think I know whether or not Ford remembered how to play the role. But for me THE GREATEST FUCKUP of KOTCS is that Ford BROUGHT IT, he WAS INDY, but the script and fucking direction let him down. If you think he was sleepwalking then I'm afraid you wouldn't have been pleased no matter what... I think the irony is that the thing I was actually most worried about, that Ford would appear to be on depression meds or zonked out for the whole movie, turned out to be the only invalidated concern. Christ, in the trailer, he even pulled of the fucking 'part-time' line. (I could be wrong, I only watched the abomination twice and it was over a year ago, but wasn't the line reading different in the actual movie?) Anyway, that's what I took away from it, that Ford was great, but the movie let him down. Poor fucking guy... <p>With regards to that still Wonka posted, I fucking HATE all the compositing and digital color grading that's infested the industry over the last 10 years. If you work in the business or even just own one of these HDSLR and are thikning of shooting an Indy, you'll see an entire cadre of 'colorists' that have popped up and it's like they're selling a magic elixir that will make your movie look amazing in post... fucking bullshit. For most of them, I have no clue what their credentials are or why I should believe their eye is better than my own or the directors... the only thing I can say is that if you're going for a certain 'music video' or washed out or post bleach bypassed look, then these guys probably know how to achieve that, but I find that many films have lost all sensitivity to color and subtle gradations of light (movies like, say, The Godfather or Dog Day Afternoon). I think LOTR was the first movie to use it in a major way (you can see it in the BTS stuff early on, when they were scanning each frame of film, grading, etc.) and I think that 90% of the time they overdo it and it looks really fucking artificial. Also, I've noticed that they often choose a color and then cast THE WHOLE SCENE with that color, so that a scene is effectively black, white, grey, and then pick a color - yellowish, bluish, greenish... except not ish, the whole scene is nothing but gradations of that single color. Awful and unnecessary... chalk it up to creative people not going with their vision and buying into the tech-head's snake oil.

  • July 18, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST

    I liked nuking the fridge.

    by The Dark Shite

    Cinematically, that was the only good bit! That creepy ghost town etc? Very well done. <p> It's the rest of the movie that was total shite.

  • July 18, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    R.I.P. James Gammon

    by JShanW


  • July 18, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    What a fucking asshole. Seriously why the need to treat this man in such a lowly manner. Give him some money you fucking Jabba.

  • July 18, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST

    KotCS is a great Indy film.

    by Sailor Rip

    It's better than the play it safe TLC which Spielberg made because he felt he had to apologize for ToD(which he didn't because it's great). He basically said "Look, I'm taking no chances, no risks, I know what the masses want and I'll give it to them without even a hint of creativity or originality." <p> I like TLC. I like all four films but the guy tried to go somewhere no Indy film had gone and you shit on him for it. <p> Can you honestly say that shot of Indy's shadow as he picks up his hat after gettingt thrown from the trunk isn't iconic?

  • July 18, 2010, 2:51 p.m. CST

    For All The Apologists

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    saying that they couldn't actually drop the cast off a waterfall or actually train monkeys or ants to do what they did in the movie so they had to use is a thought...DON'T have a waterfall scene at all...DON'T have a scene that needs monkeys...DON'T have a scene where a guy gets eaten by ants...just don't put those scenes in the movie in the first place...don't write them...don't think of them...don't let scenes like that anywhere near the fucking film to begin with..."well we can't actually film this without using lots of CG" THEN DON'T FILM IT AT ALL!!!! REWRITE THE GODDAMN SCRIPT TO MAKE IT LESS RETARDED!!

  • July 18, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST


    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    he took Indy to a place nobody should ever go...ever...he took Indy to North Korea

  • July 18, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST


    by Sailor Rip

    You get it. You actually get it. <p> And people on here talk about creativity when the most creative thing they ever did(which is not creative since Dannygloversdickblood) is come up with their screen name. <p> Take an actor/actress and add an oh so witty ref to their anotomy. <p> TimBurtonspenisjuice <p> Garybuseysbenigntesticaltumor <p> lindseylohansinflamedhemeroid <p> Write a script and stop worrying about a "clever" name if you really want to make your mark in the film industry. Don't like Indy 4? Submit your script for Indy 5. <p> And here's the important thing. If you don't like Indy 4 and have legitimate reasons, great. I have no problem.

  • July 18, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST


    by RPLocke

    David Prowse has long complained about being in Star Wars, yet he has no problem charging people 40 bucks for his signature.

  • July 18, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST


    by RPLocke

    If you bothered at all to watch the Skull behind the scenes you'll notice that the warehouse was shot on location.

  • July 18, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST

    david prowse needs a reality check

    by Bouncy X

    he was just a guy wearing the suit. he didnt do anything cool or special, the look of the suit and the voice made him seem that way but he just walked around. he's no different than all of the Jason actors or the numerous nameless people who wore creature costumes.

  • July 18, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    I Am Not Spending Anymore Money On LFL Products

    by LaserPants

    Oh, who am I kidding, I'm all over whichever good Star Wars videogames come out. Fuckin' Lucas. Fuckin' pop cult takin' over people's minds n' shit.

  • July 18, 2010, 4:11 p.m. CST

    SK229, agree about all this color 'grading' bullshit...

    by Cervantes

    ...this trend is one of the things that totally ruins certain movies for me!<P>It can be argued that it suits certain movies like the LOTR trilogy to evoke a 'mood', but this shit is giving EVERYTHING too much of an unnatural, 'PROMO-video' look these days...<P>And I reckon that the snippets of UN-'graded' LOTR footage that I remember seeing somewhere looked BETTER anyway!<P>And never mind the fact that Greedo shoots first now, the 'Special Edition' DVD releases of the original STAR WARS trilogy look crap compared to how it used to look, due to color-tampering.<P>Even ALIEN:DIRECTOR'S CUT and BLADE RUNNER:FINAL CUT have been give a new 'paintjob' for the worse, in my opinion. This shit should have been kept for the MATRIX movies!

  • July 18, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST

    I want some Sorcere's Apprentice Reviews!!

    by RPLocke

  • July 18, 2010, 4:44 p.m. CST

    INDY 4 will forever suck ass!...

    by Cervantes

    ...and as a huge fan of the first 3, that pains me.<P>Ford was just fine, and I can't blame Shia...apart from the fact that he mumbled his lines so quickly at times that I hadn't a clue what he was saying. No, the fault is equally shared by both Spielberg and Lucas. What the hell were they thinking!<P>The CGI ants scene I can accept, but what the hell were the ludicrous CGI gophers and monkeys moments doing in this movie??<P>From the boring hotrod opening to the too-drawn-out wedding conclusion, this movie just had TOO many misjudged sequences throughout, with the constant 'OLD Indy' reminders setting the wrong tone throughout.<P>Ford gave a solid enough performance, but the likes of his 'clumsy shtick' where he knocks over the bike in the 'fake suburb' was just too much.<P>It remains an uneven, uninvolving mess compared to it's predecessors, which would need a big re-edit to salvage in any way.<P>And surely Spielberg and Lucas should have given us ANY storyline that didn't involve 'aliens' from them anymore? Unless they were extremely badass ones...which these so dismally WEREN'T...

  • July 18, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST

    some of it was good, some of it was bad

    by Spazatronik_2000

    It was great just to see the character Indiana Jones back on the screen with the theme music playing in the background. That alone was practically worth the price of admission. I like Spielberg's directing style and admire his craft. His directing along with the action choreography was well done and fun to watch. I liked the cinematography and art direction and I accept the modern trend of creating a set with cg compositting so you can make the sky look exactly the way you want. I can roll with that. Yeah the sky was distracting in the warehouse scene. But I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch over it. The car chase scene at the school was fun and classic Indiana Jones. The monkey scene even had elements that were classic Indiana Jones. The monkeys were stupid but I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch over it. The ant scene was cool. I like fantasy and can accept that modern action movies have crazy cg scenes in them. I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch over it. The gophers were stupid, pointless, and distracting. The alien skull plot was interesting and fun. It was fresh and a different direction for the franchise different from the ancient artifacts grounded in biblical mythololgy, etc. I did not like the screenplay and it occasionaly plodded, was clumsy, and awkward ala Phantom Menace. The buildup to the end was o.k. but the ending of the movie was a let down, like most alien stories/mysteries are, and it seriously brought down my enjoyment of the film. It was completely retarded. I can accept cheesy action scenes but horrible writing I cannot.

  • July 18, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST

    I also like these articles

    by Spazatronik_2000

    stop bitching about them, you are clearly the minority, they are obviously popular since this is the #1 talkback.

  • July 18, 2010, 9:02 p.m. CST

    I barely noticed the gophers in Indy 4

    by Orionsangels

    They were only at the start of the film and maybe in 2 to 3 shots at the most. Why are you focusing on CG gophers? I could focus on Kali-ma falling in Temple of Doom and how bad the special effects look, but I don't, because I don't choose and pick scenes and let that destroy the overall experience of an other wise good film. I said this earlier. Anyone who thought Indy 4 was gonna recapture the magic of the original Indy films doomed themselves before they even saw the film. Don't have high hopes! These directors are now older and in another state of mind and working with different technology, just be happy we even got an Indy 4 and if you're not, well then it sucks to be you.

  • July 18, 2010, 9:26 p.m. CST


    by The Bicycle Sharer

    It sucks to be you if you're not happy that we even got an Indy 4?!?!? What a fucking maroon!

  • July 18, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST

    I pray every night

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    That George Lucka$$, Stephen Spielberg, and Harrison Ford will collectively take a fucking shit down Orionsangels's throat and, if doesn't like it (and based on his Indy IV comments, he probably will) SUCKS TO BE HIM!!! (By the way, that phrase is in the running for the most inane phrase in English history.)

  • July 18, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 blew my mind!

    by DioxholsterReturns

    suck it cocksuckers, Indy 4 was better than AVATURD!

  • July 19, 2010, 12:14 a.m. CST

    UltraTron, you are so right

    by Chief Joseph

    The worst thing about Crystal Skull was the aliens. The alien plot made NO SENSE AT ALL. And then there were those OTHER aliens at Area 51. WTF.

  • July 19, 2010, 12:33 a.m. CST

    Even if Prowse is an asshole

    by Chief Joseph

    He's in terrible health and his death is imminent. George Lucas could have just waited a couple years and God would have banned David Prowse from breathing. Instead, George makes himself look like the asshole.

  • July 19, 2010, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Chief Joseph jesus man easy on the guy

    by DioxholsterReturns

    what the fuck, you speak like the devil

  • July 19, 2010, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Sorry man

    by Chief Joseph

    It's just that I have to "spice up" my language to keep up with the other AICN talkbackers.

  • July 19, 2010, 1:15 a.m. CST

    who's the old lady in the middle?

    by BBSloth

    some competition winner...?

  • July 19, 2010, 1:20 a.m. CST

    remember when Spielberg used to be cool?

    by DioxholsterReturns

    now he got beaten by Christopher Nolan in a big way.

  • July 19, 2010, 2:53 a.m. CST

    Rotten Tomatoes is not a benchmark for quality.T

    by Fortunesfool

    To whoever mentioned it - Star Trek is a bad film whether 94% of popcorn munching morons loved it or not.

  • July 19, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST

    The fridge being nuked isn't the problem

    by Fuck The Napkin

    The fridge being nuked isn't the problem with Indy 4 - it's that everyone in the movie has DEAD EYES.

  • July 19, 2010, 6:18 a.m. CST


    by Koborover

    I meant the first shots outside the warehouse, they look fake: But even if this scene is completely real (weird lighting job then), I think no one can deny that Indy IV had an overuse of CGI and that some of the magic was lost.

  • July 19, 2010, 7:39 a.m. CST

    Exepectations were high not just because its Indy

    by davidwebb

    but because the production team kept telling us that this was old-school, minimal CGI, and a proper-to-goodness Indy film as we remember it. I realise selling the film like this is part of the job, but had they said from the start "yeah, we've got the technology now, so we're going to use it", expectations would not have been so high.

  • July 19, 2010, 8 a.m. CST

    Indy 4 was 2nd best Indy Flick!

    by BilboRing

    So many people love Temple of Doom. I was watching it over the weekend and it has so many more silly and dumb moments than any of the other 3 films. When the pilots jumped out of the plane to kill Jones, why did they wait until they were hours and hours away from when they took off? They jump out after the iconic map/red line that shows where they are. The pilots basically stranded themselves too. And that whole jumping out in a raft thing is just as silly as the fridge being nuked. So you haters are just morons. Enjoy the films. They all rock. Only Raiders is flawless IMO. But 4 was better than Last Crusade and Temple. Temple had way too much cheese and the broad nearly ruined the entire experience.

  • July 19, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST

    He should never have given the idol to Dr Octavious.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • July 19, 2010, 9:42 a.m. CST

    No one thing made Crystal Skull bad

    by Sonny_Williams

    It's that nothing rose above the level of "pretty good", and much of it was "fair" or "weak". As much as the CGI is faulted, if everything else had worked we'd probably be excusing the CGI as a throwback to the cheesiness of the old serials. Or maybe not... it's very hard to believe that the same folks who gave us totally believeable dinosaurs in 1993 churned out such bargain-basement effects FIFTEEN YEARS LATER!

  • July 19, 2010, 12:44 p.m. CST

    The Indy series was never about special effects

    by Orionsangels

  • July 19, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Pretending to laugh about it won't help

    by Orionsangels

    The Bicycle Sharer

  • July 19, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Geez I hate the "word"...

    by 11ZOMBIES

    "guestimate". Kill it.

  • July 19, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    guesstimate is as bad as people who say "churn out"

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    shut the fuck up with that word, one of those important sounding ones even a dumbfuck can use. i bet they dont even use it in real life for having people go "what the fuck did you just say einstein?"

  • July 19, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST

    BBSloth - LOL!

    by A_Clockwork_Irony

    Competition winner. I have to admit that got me. Harrison is pointing out what the idol Spielberg keeps talking about is. Winners are always such losers! "What the fuck is an 'idol'?" Probably didn't even mean to enter the contest. (Look, I'm having fun with this idea, leave me alone!)

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