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‘We’re Going Down In Flames!!’ Sunday Brings Amanda Seyfried Home For HBO’s Last BIG LOVE!!

I am Hercules!!

I love “Big Love.” I think the actors are all wonderful. But I also think it’s kinda worn out its welcome. Margene’s pyramid schemes and Barb’s drinking should never distract from their unspoken sister wife attraction to each other, and to Nicole. Hopefully they’ll all finally act on their impulses tonight as Barb indulges one too many swigs of the sweet sweet pinot grigio.

I’m also very much hoping the last half hour features Bill and Don together exploring the planet Kolob (look it up, “Battlestar Galactica” fans; it’s just down the street from Altair IV).

And remember: Scientology is the bullshit religion. Only the faiths sporting angels and invisible sky bullies will put your ass into Heaven. (Although – and here’s some bad news – Jesus just appointed me his latest prophet and revealed He will never permit Heaven to be wired for cable because it’s too smutty. Also? No sex up there. Not even masturbation. Ever. So enjoy those “CSI” repeats.)

9 p.m. Sunday. HBO.

 

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  • And watch her long, red rockstar hair dip into every petri dish and microscope slide, forever contaminating the evidence. Damn you, God. Your tv sucks. But at least I can catch up on all five seasons of Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C.

  • March 20, 2011 6:13 AM CST

    I remember when a post like this actually talked about the show

    by memento108

    ....instead of indulging in your ability to reference a million other unrelated things. Congrats on not summing up what's at stake for a series finale

  • March 20, 2011 7:30 AM CST

    WTF Herc...

    by Bullet_time_Facehugger

    You finally mention big love in like two seasons, and all you use the post for is to blather on about how bad religions are. Not a goddamn thing about tonight's finale. The only good thing about this article is that tasty picture of Seyfried.

  • March 20, 2011 8:11 AM CST

    Nice new avatar up top. Drive fast, turn left. AICNASCAR

    by jawsfan

  • March 20, 2011 8:46 AM CST

    No sex in Heaven?

    by Yeti

    Those suicide happy jihadists are in for a shock, non? Thankfully I'll be going to hell, where they really know how to party.

  • March 20, 2011 8:59 AM CST

    Avatar

    by Bramton1

    I admittedly watch to see if the creepy Harry twins appear.

  • March 20, 2011 9:08 AM CST

    Herc has become his own site's biggest Troll. Sad.

    by OutsideChance

    Poor bastard. He knows Harry (and therefore he) needs the clicks to keep the advertisers. Unfortunately, he's possibly the worst reviewer on the site (when he has something to review that is). Furthermore, he has no original content (NBC promo clips and cut and paste ratings stories aren't original content). So he has to do something to keep people looking at his "articles." So, like a needy little kid who'll take negative attention over no attention, he fills his work with off topic and unduly provocative stream-of-consciousness crap just to get a TB reaction, even if that reaction has nothing to do with his "cool news." A guy who hides behind anonymity, rudely bashes people for no reason, steers things off topic for his own jollies....all that he's missing is a bridge to live under. The man is the definition of a troll. He's lucky he's what passes for a moderator here, and not just a TB'er. He'd have probably been run off the boards years ago otherwise.

  • March 20, 2011 9:13 AM CST

    Wow

    by Ciderman

    Nice to see so many posters here have no sense of humour what so ever! I mean, Scientology is just a cult, cults you know, a bunch of men, all dressed in black, going around controlling your life... Oh wait, thats Roman Catholicism (with thanks to Father Ted!)

  • I'm just sick of every new coax article TB becoming, instead of a civil (or even fun and snarky) discussion of a particular show, quickly devolving into a political, sexual and/or religious flame war...and all because the guy who supposedly writes about television is too untalented to do anything but steer his own site off topic.

  • March 20, 2011 9:24 AM CST

    What's Herc's other job?

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    There's no way this is his real job, right? It's like a hobby, surely.

  • March 20, 2011 10:24 AM CST

    I agree with Herc

    by Voice O. Reason

    And I really don't care if he decides to use a post on a about Mormon characters to make jokes at the expense of Mormons and the ending of Battlestar Galactica.

  • March 20, 2011 10:26 AM CST

    Hercules....

    by cookylamoo

    You really shouldn't post when you're shitfaced.

  • March 20, 2011 10:42 AM CST

    Damn Those Are The Hottest Pins I've Ever Seen!

    by FreeBeer

  • March 20, 2011 11:57 AM CST

    the last 2 seasons have been awful

    by jules windex

    For 3 seasons it was a great mix of melodrama and family comedy. But the last 2 seasons has been ill-advised storylines, constant out of character behavior, and its all been deadly serious. Bill and the wives don't seem to even like each other anymore. They're all miserable all the time, and it makes the viewer the same.

  • March 20, 2011 12:16 PM CST

    Amanda looks like a Grey

    by MST3KPIMP

  • March 20, 2011 1:02 PM CST

    That picture...

    by krabklaw

    Thumbs up

  • March 20, 2011 2:09 PM CST

    Was that really necessary?

    by BlaGyver

    Really? I know religion doesn't tend to get held in very high regard on this site but that was just fucking classless Herc.

  • March 20, 2011 2:40 PM CST

    Amanda's pic

    by AugustusMacReady

    Whatever she is contemplating building (a birdhouse perhaps?) she's just begging for splinters dressed like that!

  • March 20, 2011 3:24 PM CST

    She was hotter in her VM days

    by JackieJokeman

    When she was a little chunky.

  • March 20, 2011 4:48 PM CST

    What a douchey article

    by Azure Tyger

    Is there actually anything about the subject in here or is it just a vehicle for this numbnut to project his angst over religion?

  • March 20, 2011 5:56 PM CST

    You know what?

    by BlaGyver

    I've never done this before, but fuck you Herc. You're a pretentious, smug douchebag who uses any excuse he can find to express his beliefs. Half this fucking article, an article dedicated to the ending of an extremely popular HBO show, is just you shitting on religion. Honestly man, you're just furthering a stereotype a comedian I saw mentioned once. He said that he'd met plenty of Jews, Christians, Musilims, Buddhists and two Scientologists. All of those people were perfectly decent human beings. He also said he'd met plenty of Atheists and that all of them are elitist shitheads that can't accept the idea of somebody believing something different from them. Now let's be clear: I'm not a particularly spiritual guy. That said, I have the utmost respect for anybody's beliefs. This includes Atheists. I also would not use the above statement from the comedian as my end-all-be-all opinion on people of religion or people that choose not to partake in them. I have met people of religion that were absolutely awful people, sometimes just based on their personality and other times based on the fact that they used religion as an excuse for their hate. Then there's atheists. Now, while I am SURE that plenty of people that read this will be atheists, I need to be clear: I am NOT saying that being an atheist by default makes you a raging asshole. I am sure that there are plenty of atheists that are a perfectly decent kind of people. Having said that, it is the Hercules atheists that piss me off. If you walk up to any Christian on the street, they will probably respect your beliefs. Hell, my parents are strongly Christian but fully respect the beliefs of others. Guess what I'm getting at is grow the fuck up Herc. Not everybody that's Christian is a member of the Westboro Baptist Church. In conclusion, bummer that this show is ending (see, even in a response to your out-of-nowhere completely unnecessary bash on religion I can post something relevant to the initial topic). I've never watched it a ton, but from what I've seen of it it's a pretty damn good show that fully deserves the praise it has received. I know plenty of people will be bummed it's over.

  • March 20, 2011 6:01 PM CST

    Pardon me

    by BlaGyver

    About 1/3 of this article is just you shitting on religion.

  • March 20, 2011 6:58 PM CST

    ^5

    by JethroBodine

    High 5 HERC!

  • March 20, 2011 7:18 PM CST

    blagyver

    by Hercules

    eh, just ignore that last paragraph. I was pretty drunk. I'm much more keen to discuss if the murderous (and surely doomed) prophet Alby Grant gets to go to the planet Kolob this week. And does he get to stay in one of the better Kolob neighborhoods (he is a second-generation prophet after all)? Or does his homosexuality and odd coif force Jesus to consign him to one of the smaller mansions in one of the shittier sections of the planet?

  • March 20, 2011 7:23 PM CST

    Herc

    by BlaGyver

    Fair 'nuff. Thanks for clarifying.

  • March 20, 2011 8:08 PM CST

    I miss Crazy Wanda!

    by Fico

    Pretty good season though.

  • March 20, 2011 8:49 PM CST

    bring on game of thrones

    by JaredP

    i am psyched for this series and camelot on STARZ!!!!

  • March 20, 2011 9:07 PM CST

    Holy shit

    by memento108

    Did not see that coming. The second half was definitely better than the first, but man. That was pretty fucking emotional

  • March 20, 2011 9:10 PM CST

    do not shame your neighbor with sod

    by Hercules

    lesson. learned.

  • March 20, 2011 9:16 PM CST

    Big Sod

    by nemov

    Clearly the writers ran out of ideas with the show. Killing Bill off an act of desperation. How would the family survive a suicide and a homicide on the same day? Sad end to a show that was pretty good for four seasons.

  • March 20, 2011 9:16 PM CST

    Well I figured it was not going to be a happy ending

    by eric haislar

    But killing bill? Really? Not sure how I feel about that.

  • March 20, 2011 9:17 PM CST

    It's also sad when you realize...

    by memento108

    Big Love was the last of the great (The Sopranos, The Wire, Six Feet Under) HBO dramas that were all on together. End of an era. Sad shit. I guess you could lump Rome, Carnivale, and Deadwood in there too even though they died early deaths.

  • March 20, 2011 9:20 PM CST

    Kill Bill

    by MaxCalifornia.

    Anyone else correctly predict that the relatively anonymous neighbor Carl would be the one to kill Bill? They've been sowing those seeds all season, with Carl popping up being irritated about something Bill has done. Still, it was powerfully done, and I liked the conclusion of showing the family surviving and more or less all getting to do what they wanted. I think it ended at just the right time, they can't really go any further than Bill and his family being out as polygamists. So, a satisfactory conclusion. Now when's Michael Mann's LUCK coming on?

  • March 20, 2011 9:21 PM CST

    I guess that--SPOILERS for west coasters

    by memento108

    Bill served his purpose. He took a giant leap forward to legalize polygamy and once he set those chains in motion people flocked to his church and he had the visions...I think he knew his time was coming. And he accepted it

  • March 20, 2011 9:22 PM CST

    Oh and Alby

    by MaxCalifornia.

    Alby's in jail...I would have loved to have seen one last shot of him finally embracing his true nature with a willing cellmate :)

  • March 20, 2011 9:26 PM CST

    Yeah I'm disappointed we didn't see him

    by memento108

    Was hoping for one last scene with the sneaky bastard. It sucks because I was expecting them to reveal Bill as a true prophet at the end, and that being why he had been filled with grace and having the visions. That last shot was fucking beautiful though. Really nicely done with Bill out of focus sitting at the table

  • March 20, 2011 9:44 PM CST

    lol blagyver

    by IceTitan

    Religion shouldn't be held highly anywhere. What are you 15? When are you going to grow out of that nonsense?

  • And that's perfectly fine (although not something I found entertaining in the show's later seasons). But why is Herc so angry that not everyone isn't on board with this show's vision? May God have mercy on his soul.

  • March 20, 2011 10:42 PM CST

    69

    by Brian

    i'd like to see amanda seyfried in a sweaty 69 with kat dennings

  • March 21, 2011 12:09 AM CST

    still hated the last 2 seasons but the finale was superb

    by jules windex

    Except for Ginnifer reverting to short hair:p

  • March 21, 2011 1:08 AM CST

    Meh on Amanda Seyfried -- barely know her name

    by Rinse

    Was more excited to see Aaron Paul make a return appearance. Breaking Bad Season 4, please!

  • March 21, 2011 1:41 AM CST

    GAME OVER, MAN!

    by StevenScorsese

    Agree with those that say it was a good finale, but a poor last couple of seasons. At least they pulled the plug before it reached Nip/Tuckian levels though. Bill's stewed, buttwad!

  • March 21, 2011 9:28 AM CST

    Oranges

    by YankeeMan

    ATTENTION DIRECTORS EVERYWHERE: STOP USING COPPOLA'S ORANGES AS FORESHADOWING OF DEATH. That is all.

  • March 21, 2011 10:30 AM CST

    No

    by Jakester

    I get the symmetry and allusion to Joseph Smith being killed whilst awaiting trial. And while the finale was probably the best episode of the last two seasons, I was still mostly just glad it was over.

  • March 21, 2011 10:43 AM CST

    Mrs. Smith and Easter

    by OldDickLemon

    I know next to nothing about the mormon faith. Why did Bill have visions of Mrs. Smith instead of Joseph? Was this foreshadowing of Barb eventually leading the church after his death or is there some other greater significance that I'm missing? What about Easter? Their connection to real time in reference to Holidays/events has been off all season long, is there a major connection to Easter beyond martyrdom?

  • March 21, 2011 10:53 AM CST

    When Bill appeared at the end.....

    by cookylamoo

    He should have been flanked by Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker.

  • March 21, 2011 11:39 AM CST

    olddicklemon

    by eric haislar

    It was showing bill that women are just as important. That without the women by smiths side he never could have done what they did and even he was wrong.

  • March 21, 2011 1:07 PM CST

    I really enjoyed the finale

    by Detective_Fingerling

    but man, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who hated these last two seasons. I just didn't understand where it was going most of the time. I wish they would have done something with the Hollis Grant crew at the end. I also wish they would have explained how the family got along financially after Bill's death since Home Plus went out of business. And no Anna back in the finale to at least show what happened with her baby and boyfriend.

  • March 21, 2011 3:45 PM CST

    Funny how the Sopranos and Big Love ended basically the same way...

    by OutsideChance

    ...with the main characters being killed. Probably fitting insofar as Bill was, in his own way, as big a SOB as Tony.

  • March 21, 2011 5:13 PM CST

    I am nobody

    by Bramton1

    So Bill got killed by Ken, the creepy homeless shelter organizer/demon that prayed on teenagers in LA until he was stopped by Buffy.

  • March 21, 2011 11:27 PM CST

    olddicklemon, and odd thoughts about the show..

    by Mono

    She was sort of an angel of affirmation, I thought. Confirmation of Bill's beliefs that plural marriage is right, good, and holy -- rather than a twisted way to take sexual advantage of young girls. At least, that was her function in previous episodes. Here, I think we're also meant to assume that she confirmed for Bill the (utterly from left-field and retarded, if you know Mormonism) idea that women, too, hold the Priesthood.

    I loved this show. I loved the characters, the humor, the drama.

    I hope to God, though, that nobody thinks for a second that they got anything right about Mormonism. I have no stake in defending Mormons. I'm not one, and I have major problems with some of their policies. (Prop 8, what a clusterfuck.)

    But this show was so hilariously bad in portraying Utah and Mormon beliefs and behaviors. The writers also seemed to have no concept of the inconsistencies involved in trying so hard to make Mormonism look foolish to us "normal" people while, on the other hand, showing us Bill's religious visions, his spirit watching over his family in the end, etc. They basically don't realize that they're saying that, within the universe of the show (which of course resembles this universe very little), Bill was right and his religious beliefs were true, but Mormonism is creepy and weird and all of its beliefs are wrong.

    Hello?

  • March 22, 2011 12:35 AM CST

    As a mormon...

    by tootle

    I enjoyed the show. Great characters and great acting. But mono is right. The show portrays mormons and Utahns in a very crappy inacurate way. I was also always disappointed that the show was rarely filmed in utah. It's obviously all filmed in Cali. It was pretty clear from the beginning of the series that Big Love was someone's attempt to make a case for alternative lifestlyes. I think one of the shows creators admitted such at one point. Oh well. People are going to think mormons are stupid regardless, and Big Love didn't help. Game of Thrones - bring it on!

  • March 22, 2011 4:33 AM CST

    Amanda's Breasts

    by Henry Fool

    One of the reasons you're not allowed to get a lengthy glimpse of Amanda Seyfried's breasts in film is because when you actually behold them, you learn that they're not actually breasts at all but rather glorious orbs of light that shoot heroin directly into your brain.

  • March 22, 2011 3:09 PM CST

    An ok end.

    by _Maltheus_

    I always thought this should should end with Bill taking up the prophet seat at Juniper creek. It was clear that they hadn't done enough to set that up this season, but I started getting my hopes up by the end of the finale. *spoiler coming* I don't like the fact that they killed Bill. It just felt forced. Even a four way divorce would have been better. I was really hating Barb by the end. Not since Peg, from King of the Hill, have I ever hated a TV wife more. Bill shouldn't have given the ok for her priesthood holder because she had proven herself so profoundly unsuited for it towards the end. There's no way that his church would have gone on with her at the helm. I would have also liked to see some Alby wrap up. Kind of shocked that he wasn't outed through any of that. Also, did the son give up monogamy, or was Mac from VM now cool with polygamy? This was a great show that got a fair run. I don't think there has ever been a show with more tension and stress. But it was starting to run out of steam towards the end, so I'm glad they ended it here. It's sad though. Yet another good show comes to an end, with nothing on the shelves worthy to pick up the slack.