Wanna see an abandoned Animation Test from ROGER RABBIT 2?

I think Roger looks way more solid within the live action. Nice work on the table movement too. This is a sequel I wouldn't mind seeing!

Meh.

alas we will never know.

As I was watching this, I heard Bob Hoskins voice.....a syndicated Frasier was on with him playing a gym teacher on my television the same time Roger was talking. Talk about weird!

Things must be bad when an animation pitch from 1998 ends up on a 2010 front page news story. We all know how this story will end though.... 2015 reboot with CG Jessica Rabbit. That is, unless the world ends in 2012. So glad Batman 3 comes out before armageddon

And you start sentences with "Now" way too much.

Ooooo next you gotta post that super duper awesome proof of concept video for the dark and gritty live-action Pokemon movie!!! (*Note* that was called sarcasm kids... I only wish I was lying about the Pokemon vid.)

Now, that stuff looks like a video game.

If Zemeckis did RR2 now, he'd do it as some horrible motion-capture disaster, with the animated corpse of Angelina Jolie as Jessica Rabbit. Please let this never happen.

From Darma and Greg? Note to Jon Hamm: don't do whatever that guy did.

Is it sad that I just searched for that Pokemon video?? "When's it going to stop?" "When I catch them all..." Good times.

He's lost it. He went from doing wildly original, cutting-edge comedies to souless, motion captured, pre-sold cash-ins.

that's truly hilarious, sad and daunting. Now, I don't know whether to pity you or envy. Well, I think I'm making too much of your addiction. But, it could be harmful psychological behavior. However, I'm you sure you're perfectly normal.

for roger rabbit:toon town japan a follow up set in the japanese version of toontown with old anime characters like astroboy and kimba and piccachu helping out the framed rabbit.

I'm sure Zemeckis would work in mo-cap somehow on some characters, but it would have to be stylistically like the original 2D (probably done with computers but to look like hand drawn, but that's quibbling) in a live-action world. So, yes, Zemeckis would have to use live action and wouldn't do cartoons vs. CGI mocap actors. That misses the point.

Especially after such a long time since the first one.

I think this is crap & am glad it was shelved quickly!

Didn't see anything new or groundbreaking. Pretty lame, actually...

Couldn't they just show them the first movie? Look! We can do this...again!

I agree with pacrone, a wholly CGI RR movie would not have the heart of the original but I think the demise of traditional 2D cell animation in favour of 3D computer animation could be central to the plot of a potential new movie.

Just in the same way that Roger found the rejected Betty Boop working in a gentlemen's club, because audiences weren't interested in black and white cartoon characters anymore, we could find Roger working at a petrol station or as a washroom fragrance sprayer (what is that job called??) because all the world wants now (or seems to want) is 3D animated characters.

I'm sure Roger would quite enjoy working in those jobs but I'd love to hear Daffy Duck bitching about the likes of Buzz Lightyear and how he was a better space crusader (only to team up with him towards the climax of the film, as they do).

With Zemeckis directing and the Pixar (Toy Story) scribes involved a RR2 could be a phenomenal movie.

They're called Toy Story.

Just a big demo, "hey look what we can do!" Terrible story, appalling acting and dire accent work from Hoskins. It was a visual irritant that didn't work on any level and if anyone bought into the "toons" actually being there, you're a liar. I was the target audience and found it ugly, loud and pointless. Another Williams experiment gone wrong like his terrible Thief and the Cobbler debacle.

There are people who hate The Thief and the Cobbler? Holy shit, it didn't even get finished and it's still twice the movie that Disney's Aladdin horse-shit is! If you hate Who Framed Roger Rabbit you must be a miserable fucker.

...shame it didn't get the green-light - Bob Hoskins would have been probably been up for it.

you really hated your childhood, didntya?

The guy in Nightmare On Elm St that works in the dream clinic did the voice for Roger Rabbit.

Just cause you saw it when you were 5 doesn't mean it's good.

He writes rather beautifully on Roger Rabbit, as being one of the last big studio films that deals in true magic. I love it, I really do.

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Roger, living in New York, is a Vietnam vet burnout living on welfare, pimping and dealing in his spare time. His psyche is shattered from the Horror's he witnessed in The Nam where he and his fellow toons were sent to serve and we are treated to flashbacks of the atrocities he witnessed and was a part of. Jessica, his wife, is a strung out skank who works as a stripper when she isn't doing hardcore fuck flicks for the 42nd Street porn houses.

Roger cracks up and goes on a rampage, killing the whores and pimps on 42nd St and the movie climaxes with him filming himself cutting off Jessica's head, fucking her esophagus and cuming out of her mouth before stucking on the barrel of a gun and blowing his head off.

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I really do hope they pull together for a RR2 movie. I've read about it for years, but I doubt we'll ever see one. I wonder if Hoskins has it in him for another run?

That this footage was "leaked" to see how geek sites like AICN reacted? I wouldn't be surprised if Zemeckis or Disney let this one out of the barn to see how it plays in places like this, DenofGeek, etc. as a part of their pitch to execs for a sequel. The fact that Hoskins was also talking about it recently makes me think they're looking at a deal in the near future. (Sequels/redos of 80's flicks are in vogue, of course.)

An idea for RR2 that had Roger going off to fight in WWII, where his hijinks would be reminiscent of some of those old Bugs Bunny WWII cartoons. Probably way too racist to be made today, but it would be damn interesting, seeing as how toons can't be killed by conventional means.

If what I'm reading is true, Zemeckis had hoped to use his mo-cap technique to do RR2. Hoskins speculated that they'd replace humans with Zemeckis's mo-cap abominations. If that's true, screw that noise! Even with Cameron's far more advanced facial mapping, I'd still far rather see a real, 67-year-old Hoskins than deal with the creepy uncanny valley effect of Zemeckis's other outings. If he goes that route, I guarantee that the film will nosedive after the opening weekend once moviegoers experience the suckfest that is Zemeckis's attempt at CGI characters. (Yeah, a bit of vitriol here. I HATE his process.)

She got it going on! In cartoons between her, 80's April O'Neil and the Cadburys Caramel Bunny it's on!!

You are an idiot of the highest order.

You are one miserable fuck, you know that? Ain't one kid who saw that movie and wasn't bowled over; unless, I guess, they were too caught up on Hoskin's "dire accent work."

1) That's awesome and they need to make this movie already. Rape my childhood, I don't care.

2)What is that, traditional animation with all the shading and highlights in 3D? Much as I prefer old-timey cartoons, the way in which they had to add that stuff in the original (so far as I understand it) seemed like painstaking, backbreaking work, so I'll give them a pass on that.

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Why would you want CGI people in RR2? The whole POINT of the first one was to show that REAL humans and toons coexisted and worked together. By putting in Mo-Cap people, you've just made everyone a toon. Perhaps THAT could be a plot for RR2. CGI Toons (and Japanese anime toons) that are taking over from traditional "2D" toons and humans. The "2D's" and humans have a revolt against the CGI's and anime toons.

It retrospect, it AMAZES me that we got to see Disney and Warner Bros. cartoon characters interacting with each other in the first film. In today's hyper-competitive world, could you imagine seeing Pixar and Dreamworks animated characters in the same movie? The A Bug's Life characters meeting the ones from Antz? It would NEVER HAPPEN.

I actually love the idea of Roger and the other hand-drawn 'toons having to deal with being made obsolete by today's CGI animated characters, but considering Zemeckis would mocap the fuck out of the "real" humans in the story, what would be the point? The crazy fun of the original was seeing the amazingly convincing physical interaction between toons and live actors and/or props, but you mocap the human characters, and the entire MOVIE is animated, so it renders the project entirely pointless.

I'll buy tickets then...!

Ive heard about this test footage for some time , and i'm glad that i finally get to see it. It looks great, and its a damn shame that the movie didnt get made. On the same subject, two scripts were written for a roger rabbit sequel - there was one was set in WW2 called "toon patrol" and the other was set in the great depression and was called "who discovered roger rabbit". Does any one know where i can find these scripts online? Ive searched all over the net and i cant seem to find 'em!

If Roger picks up a stapler and starts waving it around, it would be a CGI stapler. In the original, it was an actual stapler that they had to manipulate with nobody in the shot (digitally erasing major components wasn't around yet either, so they couldn't have a midget in a green unitard wave the stapler.) it really was an ingenious bit of practical effects work that now would be far easier to do on a computer. That would indeed rob some of the charm out of it.

The combination of live action and cartoons was done very cleverly and still works today. And remember, they were supposed to make those character look like they were real, three dimensional CGI-like characters. The idea is that they are actual cartoons. Oh, and Hoskins sounds fine. There are a lot worse examples of attempted American accents.

I meant to say above "they were NOT supposed to make those character look like they were real, three dimensional CGI-like characters."

But sadly Robert Zemeckis died in late 2000.

The original was barely watchable. The novelty carried it through. If all the characters had been originals (no cameos) it would have truly sucked.

They should do more Roger shorts like trail mix up and roller coaster rabbit. Those were awesome! They really felt like old school shorts. Do a ton of those and then see if there's still interest in Roger.

Can we just report them on the contact pages? They are starting to pop up in annoying frequency

I'm watching on kind of a small screen, was that CGI? I liked it better as the hand drawn cartoon.

You are/were a joyless tool.

I saw this over a year ago. I thought everyone did.

Seriously. It could be fun while making very serious commentary on the demise of artistry in animation and the rise of Consumer Product driven properties.

People who hate the original Roger rabbit have no soul. It wasn't just good because I was a kid. I've watched it a million times since then and it still holds up as a cool detective story. If you don't like it chances are you don't like cartoons anyway, so why bother.

Roger Rabbit himself was a fun novelty character to walk us through the world of that movie, but I can't say I was left with a great interest in following his future adventures. On the other hand, I think there is still potential in the genre of stories that focus on the idea of honoring the legacy of characters and art that have passed into the public domain (if any of it ever really does) and are fading from our cultural memory.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit was a huge blockbuster, one of the biggest money-makers of the year it came out, scored 98% on rottentomatoes, scored 7.6 out of 10 on imdb, and is considered by almost everybody as a modern classic. I don't see how it was "underrated". Seems to me it was rated just about right. A very good movie that did very good at the box office and was well liked by almost everyone that saw it...

Even as a kid I knew it was a technical miracle. It's the last great FX film before computers took over and CGI sucked all the wonder out of the industry. The sequel might be nice,but I'd love to see the original get re-released on the big screen.

i posted that idea in the last roger rabbit 2 thread months ago. (not saying i originated it or anything) lets hope they do it.

I like your idea. I'd go see that.

I like your idea. I'd go see that.

They really need to start putting all the best films on blu ray already. No Star Wars, no Indy, no Roger Rabbit. What gives?

to wait for the public to catch up. Maybe eventually, in 3 or 4 years, Blu ray has a chance to overtake DVD as the main format for watching movies, but we're nowhere near that right now...

Closest thing to seeing a cartoon have sex with a human. That shit was pretty hot!!!!

i was going to write the same thing.The new movie,which ofc happens in our modern live action world,should be done like this,3D toons are the new superstars of the modern entertainment industry while the classic 2D toons fall in obscurity.The movie should have a lot of references to things that happen in the current animation industry:

IE: a reference in that Loonatics revitalization fiasco,where we see how Bugs Bunny is very frustrated that he had to change his classic persona into a more darker and futuristic one,so that he can still be relevant to the modern audience and not lose his job.

You can even have a Miyazaji cameo with his toons which are seen as inspiration from the american 2D toons that classic animation is not dead yet,and so they try to react and make the modern audience to like them again.it was also serve as a hint for the 2nd sequel which will have the Japanime toons vs the American toons.why not?

ofc the movie should be done in such that the depiction of the 2D and 3D toons in the same live action world would be flawless so that it doesnt alienate the movie crowd,they have to believe that such a world does exist like what happened with the world of the first movie.maybe drawing the 2D toons with computers rather than by hand,would be the right route to follow for the visual effects of the movie.

anyway a RR sequel movie is a project with unlimited possibilities and infinite ideas,you can follow any vision you want with it,especially with the technical tools that the modern animation and CGI technology provides.Ofc it is a very difficult,demanding and expensive project,it requires a lot of talents and careful planning,but i am sure the movie would have been phenomenal if done right.

i mean Mickey Mouse who cries for his lost fame,while being the butler of a cocky and abusive Buzz,who wouldnt pay to see this?

instead of traditional line drawing like the original then I know that I will simply pretend the sequel doesn't exist much like I do with Star Wars 1-3 and 2/3 of the Matrix movies. We have enough of that bullshit and most of the reason Roger Rabbit is still a good movie to watch is because you can take a minute and think, "wow! They actually drew all of that!" Zemeckis can't out-pixar Pixar, RR2 won't have a meaningful storyline. So what can he do? Spectacle combined with strong enough storyline to not make it Shrek. But CGI is lazy compared to line drawing. It's lazy and it doesn't look as good and the whole reason anyone cares about fucking roger rabbit is because of the animation style. He's not an iconic kids character, nobody gives a fuck about bob hoskins in the movie or Christopher Lloyd. It's the animation. It's the animation. It's the animation. Hell, it's was amazing then (and was even reported on by entertainment shows) and it's still amazing that they got WB and Disney to allow their major characters to show up together in the same movie. That means it was about animation because if they had just had live action bugs and live action mickey in the same scene then who gives a shit? Fuck off with CGI already. Why doesn't he just mocap the whole thing but the twist is that he uses real animals (genetically engineered freaks if he has to) instead of animated? Get it? All the humans are mocapped and the animals are live action! YEAH! THAT WOULD FUCKING ROCK you stupid tool. If he doesn't understand the importance of the animation style to the original then fuck him. I'm glad he's not making any more sequels to the movies he got right back then.

Rambling and incoherent!

Not with HD movies available on the cable channels instantly. The Star Wars 6 DVD box set will be a huge seller, but mostly for the deleted scenes, and not the actual movies which we've seen 100 times already.

Roger Rabbit is "underrated" in the sense that you never really hear people talk about it anymore, for whatever reason.

Set it in the modern day...have ToonTown be a ghetto full of washed up has been 2d classic toons...then have some evil Judge Doom style plot involving CGI that requires all the 2d toons to rise up and save the day...I'd watch that.

A 2D washed up Roger having to leave the run down ghetto Toon Town to battle his own spastic CGI counterpart(s) and the Evil Web Designers that killed 2D animation. Throw in the Toy Story characters...Mickey...Bugs...Daffy...Donald.

At the very least, we to see a CGI version of Jessica in epic 3D.

Start it with the suspicious death of an all new CGI creation/character....The cops start looking at Toon Town for suspects...ya know...cuz of all the 2D character on CGI character crime.

Love to see Roger's first steps into the CGI world....encountering Jar Jar? They look and sound alike!! Gollum? King Fucking Kong?

I dunno...this thing pretty much writes itself. Get on this Zemekis!

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2D + live action, please. Thank you.

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It's one of my favourite films. However, I just don't have any faith in Zemeckis making a sequel that even faintly resembles the brilliance of the original. All of his genius and energy has evaporated with his bizarre pursuit of dull, motion capture. How can the same man who made 'Back to the Future' now produce such limp and lifeless works? While he stays in that world I just can't see him ever making a good film again.

'A Christmas Carol' gave me a splitting headache after half an hour, and I was disturbed by Bob Hoskins' character's ability to defy gravity and virtually float whilst he was dancing.

It's interesting to see that computer technology hasn't affected Jim Cameron's ability to create an engaging film (Avatar) in the way it has Zemeckis and George Lucas.

but what CreationistTechnophobicManiacs said would be a good idea.. where the hell is Ralph Bakshi?

an animated JR in a live action gangbang.it would have been phenomenal.what?

Look at all the toon characters created since Who Framed Roger Rabbit premiered...the Toy Story gang, The Incredibles, Kung Fu Panda, the lead from Despicable Me, or, if you wanna go 2D, the frogs and other vermin from Princess and the Frog...look at them, and tell me that Roger couldn't kick their butts when it comes to sheer manic cartoon fun. Roger's a great character, IMO, and with a good script - a BETTER script than the one used for the original film - he could be a star again. At any rate, Roger Rabbit is a hell of a lot better project for Disney than that fucking Muppet movie. If we could just make Robert Iger believe that Roger could sell more merchandise, maybe he'd go for it...since merchandising is all that fucking Iger seems to care about...

I still do not understand this wanton obsession I see online with movies like 'The Goonies' and 'Back to the Future.' It reminds me too much of people reaching a mid-life crisis, and desperately wanting to recapture their youth...but of course, you can't. Though I will say it was nice to finally see what this test was like, after only seeing a still image of the CG Roger...but it just feels 'too easy.' Besides there was a CG Roger Rabbit movie that failed miserably: we called it 'The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle.'

I guess you're right, it's probably best that Roger be a fond memory rather than a re-animated zombie...your argument is the same argument I use for the Muppets and the Loony Tunes gang...they've already given their best, so why resurrect them? All of the recent attempts to revive both franchises have flopped miserably, so leave 'em alone already. If you wanna recapture your youth, buy a goddamn red convertible (or the Hot Wheels equivalent, if you're REALLY into your second childhood) and accept the fact that what's past is past. Or maybe just grow the hell up already.

80's that got sequels were pointless slasher flicks, rather than movies that deserved to be serialized.

Well duh. That's like saying eating candy > eating shit.

make it live action and use Christina Hendricks FFS!

Here's the link: http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/hoskins-signs-up-for-roger-rabbit-sequel_1167482 Sounds like he's rightfully skeptical about the motion-capture angle, though. Is Zemeckis completely senile or what???