Calamity Jane gives us a look at the documentary, DEATH IN GAZA!!!

Thanks, Jane.

Marhaba, I'm glad the Palestinian perspective is finally being shown more to the world. The world needs to know what is really happening. I hope to see 'Paradise Now' this week. Salamat

just more hollywood pro-palestinian/anti-semitic propaganda. I bet this "documentary" is probably as manipulative and "truthful" as a Michael Moore film.

Howdy - I also Netflixed this one about 6 months ago after catching 5-10 mins on TV. The real thrust of the story is how the film maker spent the last weeks of his life. They had planned on going over to the Isreal side and filming the same number of kids for the same amount of time there, but died before they could. IMHO they did a good job of just letting the Palestine side say their side with no promps or the like. Fred

Man if that doesnt sound like high quality entertainment I don't know what is. Hopefully the producers of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre prequel and Friday the 13th reimagining will be taking notes on the correct lividity of the sundered flesh, the consistency/shininess of the ripped muscle, the jaggedness of the bone shards and the hue of freshly spilled blood. Its those added touches of reality that make my movie watching all the more enjoyable.

The Palestinians are not the same thing as the Rebel Alliance.

Oh, goodie. A leftist propaganda film detailing the suffering of the poor, oppressed, peace-loving Palestinians at the hands of the Judeo-Nazi Israelis. What a crock of shit. Israel made a mistake withdrawing from Gaza. It handed the terrorists a victory, and now the emboldened terrorists are launching rocket attacks on Israel from their newly created Hamastan. Israel should have expelled all the arabs from Judea, Samaria, and Gaza in 1967 after they crushed the arab world in the Six Day War. Now they need to crush the Palestinian revolt just as decisively. The only thing the arabs understand is force. They are a 7th century culture ill suited for a 21st century world. They do excel, however, at killing schoolchildren and old people. In a real fight against soldiers, they cant surrender fast enough.

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm

By the way NAZI ISRAELI soilders are great at killing killing schoolchildren , old people and documentary filmmakers to. Had to get that of my chest. I feel better now.

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse/ Hey KlitorisOvrdrive, go kill your self please so in the future we dont have to live among such filth. I dont know if your a rapid libral or a member of the religion of peace but your a scumbag who deserves nothing more than to be run over.

Marhaba Hugh Jass, Actually Israelis (mostly soldiers) kill almost four times as many Palestinians as the other way around. Wow your statements are just so racist towards Arabs, and its pointless to try to have a dicission with a bigot. If you want propaganda just turn on the evening news these days. What's so wrong about trying to portray what people are truly going through over there? And yes Israeli soldiers actually do kill quite a lot of Palestinian schoolchildren. Many cannot go to school or play in their own yards because they get picked off by hot-headed snipers who are partoling the West Bank aparthied wall. There is only criticism when Palestine does something wrong. But the lense is hardly ever focused on what Israel does, except in rare films like these. No one is saying the Arab world is perfect. There is much to criticize in the Arab world too. But no one should be exempt from criticism or from International Law & the Geneva Conventions fo that matter. Salamat

Yes those horrible Palestinian children who get their homes bulldozed by Israel and are chased by Israeli tanks. Shame on them for throwing stones at tanks. I wonder what makes them want to fight back. They should just do what the Native American Indians did and die of smallpox and get out of everyone's way.

...the palestinians have been their own worst enemies, now more than ever with hamas engaging in suicid-ocracy...and yet! as much of a right-wing asshole as to plainly are, hugh jass, tell me an israeli soldier wouldn't have picked off your huge ass were the circumstances reversed. did you miss how this director WAS going to go to israel and have their side of the conflict's story told before one of their soldiers killed him? but, you know, facts are stupid things in the face of knee-jerk bullshit you parrot like a very good german, indeed. you, and all your fellow travelers, will have much to answer for, in this life and the next. meanwhile, if 22% had been bandied about as a territorial solution around the time of ehud barak and wye river, we would probably have a stable two-state solution and likely arafat brought up on corruption charges by the people he betrayed $1 billion worth, if he'd lived that long. but, no -- after all, palestinians were NEVER going to get a better offer than that offered by barak, were they? that is, of course, until they were...g-d save us, in the holy land as elsewhere...

Great Britain should have never made that promise during the First World War. Israel is just as corrupt as every other country in that region, or the U.S. for that matter.

I love how we, meaning Americans, are told to be understanding, and open minded. In reality, it is the Arab world, Palestinians in particular, who are an insular, brainwashed, degenerate, medieval, backward thinking people who need to be educated and taught to love and forgive and live in peace with others. Until they look at themselves and the future, they will continue to shoot themselves in the foot, while alienating many of us from caring whether they exist as a people or not.

Name some 'non-corrupt' countries..

if you've lived under the rule of an invader... maybe if you've been demeaned and discouraged.....maybe if you've been forced off your land...been surrounded by state agression all your life...seen your friends get killed....seen your lives made a mockery...held out for hope and received none..held out for justice and been denied...been considered 'filthy', degenerate and backward...___________________________then maybe..JUST maybe you'll understand what its is like to be Jewish person (that has lived through such horrors) or a palestinian (living through it right now).......____________________________life can be a very cruel joke it seems to me....for two groups, such as the muslims and the jews, who should have more in common than not, to be such horrible enemies...it just saddens me.....neither side has ANY claim at all to having the higher moral ground, and yet both sides deserve our empathy and assistance....if only they were able to put down their weapons and just get their shit together...what an alliance..what a power that would be...jews and arabs, living in peace..working together...man...incredible....and yet, i fear that may never happen....not unless courageous men and women decided that enough is enough

you have good points sir...however, there are things we can't know and things that may not be so obvious...'can't keep pests out of the hothouses?'...could it be that they are denied certain resources that would help them do just that?..or cannot afford them?....and the scene where a 4 year old curses about israelis....i've seen the exact same thing when Jewish settlers were filmed..young children using the most disgusting language and racist comments about the palestinians, and their young zealous mothers nodding in approval.....all this tells ME is that both sides..BOTH have their fair share of people that cannot and WILL not accept the idea that the other side just MIGHT be human after all....it is incredibly easy to justify eradicating a people once you've convinced yourself that they 'just aren't like us'..or are like 'animals'.....and it appears that both sides of this problem have no end of idiots that share that viewpoint.....as far as this film being propaganda, well.....perhaps it is, and perhaps it isnt.....but one thing i do know is that mainstream media here heavily favours the israeli side of the equation....maybe its an identity thing...maybe folks in the west look at the fighting and feel more inclined to pity the israelis..i don't know...perhaps the palestinians just aren't enough 'like us' for us to consider them worthy of our empathy.....but one thing is certain....as i said before, neither side can claim the higher moral ground...both have done incredibly wicked things to each other, and ultimately to themselves....

I to would like to ask you to provide proof of those films of Jewish settlers. I thought it was impossible to film the settlers without being shot by NAZI ISRAELI soilders.

Or Nabi Ilyas.It's ridiculous to suggest that it's only palestinians who commits atrocious acts of violence. It's also just stupid to say it's all the fault of Israeli's. BOTH sides have done terrible horrific things to each other and yet still we have some people playing the blame game. If you want a peaceful solution to the conflict you have to acknowledge the atrocities on both sides. Anyone who's totally pro israel or totally pro palestinian is wearing a hefty set of blinkers.

folks.take off the blinkers....as for anchorite and Klit, the show i watched featuring the settlers was something along the lines of a documentary, and this was several years ago...i wish i did remember the name of it, as it was quite powerful...from what i recall, it actually accomplished what this film set out to do, which was to show both sides of the coin...it featured interviews and vinettes of both sides...and both sides were shown to be unshaklingly firm in their belief that the otherside were 'animals'....it was sad and pathetic, and above all, tragic in the extreeme...._________________________and as for trying to persuade you or any of the other talkbackers, you've got to be kidding me...actually i know you are...you know as well as i do that no amount of reasonable arguement or calm attempts at discussion will change your mind...from your post, anyone can see that you are firm in your belief and will not be swayed...i wish it were otherwise, but thats the sad fact.....it'd be nice for a change if more people didn't blindly accept one side or the other as being 'right' and the other side being a collection of the forces of evil...thats a very simplistic and naive way of looking at things...better to see things as they truly are...both sides wrong, both sides rushing headlong to disaster....both sides unwilling to share...sweet jebus...they all need to sit down and watch sesame street....cheers

folks.take off the blinkers....as for anchorite and Klit, the show i watched featuring the settlers was something along the lines of a documentary, and this was several years ago...i wish i did remember the name of it, as it was quite powerful...from what i recall, it actually accomplished what this film set out to do, which was to show both sides of the coin...it featured interviews and vinettes of both sides...and both sides were shown to be unshaklingly firm in their belief that the otherside were 'animals'....it was sad and pathetic, and above all, tragic in the extreeme...._________________________and as for trying to persuade you or any of the other talkbackers, you've got to be kidding me...actually i know you are...you know as well as i do that no amount of reasonable arguement or calm attempts at discussion will change your mind...from your post, anyone can see that you are firm in your belief and will not be swayed...i wish it were otherwise, but thats the sad fact.....it'd be nice for a change if more people didn't blindly accept one side or the other as being 'right' and the other side being a collection of the forces of evil...thats a very simplistic and naive way of looking at things...better to see things as they truly are...both sides wrong, both sides rushing headlong to disaster....both sides unwilling to share...sweet jebus...they all need to sit down and watch sesame street....cheers

245,000 Israeli's have now illegally moved into West Bank since the '67 war to live and dictate over the lives of 2.4 million Palestinians.

if the DIRECTOR is SHOT whilst carrying a WHITE FLAG. Jesus what the hell's wrong with you people? There is NO EXCUSE ON EARTH for killing an unarmed journalist (or propagandist even) who's holding a truce flag. And if some RAT NAZI FUCKER WAR CRIMINAL SHOT ME I hope to GOD someone would release a BIG DUMP of propaganda on his ass and preferably haul him off to rot in jail. The VAST majority of Americans have no passports and have seen precisely squat of the world that they pontificate about. That is a raw fact. the ones who DO travel are 1/ soldiers, 2/ Senior citizens in tour buses or 3/ Business travelers. Anyone here been to Israel? Nablus? Iraq? No.. If you haven't seen it with your OWN TWO EYES, will you kindly SHUT UP.

Facts: The Jewish people have a right to their homeland. Their are no such people as Palestinians before the creation of Israel. "Palestinians" use children as bomb carriers and white flags too shoot Israeli's in the back. Those who think that the "Palestinians" goals to end with the creation of a Palestinian state are just as foolish as those who thought that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan could be reasoned with. And finally, Israel did exist, does exist, and will continue to exist dispite your hatred.

What and ironic name too. Haha. You need a little perspective.

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/engMDE150591999 _______ http://www.israelipalestinianprocon.org/ _______ http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/0,,377264,00.html _________ http://www.un.org/Depts/dpa/qpal/ _____ Enjoy your homework and try to post more reasoned, sensible responses next time, historyguy.

Yes I've been to Israel, I'm jewish, my parents moved there from the UK when I was 23. Both sides are angry and so many are hatefilled. What Hamas does is disgusting, I want to see them arrested or killed, but I've seen Israeli's behave and act in horrific ways towards Palestinians, and Israel has broken so many international laws, acted illegally, just as the Palestinians have, there is blood on all hands. But there is hope, I visited a school and college that was twinned if you will with a Palestinian school, the University professors were examining the rhetoris pushed by both sides and why there is so much innacuaracy. It is possible to find a peaceful solution to this but it will take sacrifice from all sides, it will be hard, but no as hard as another 1,000 years of death, murder and hate.

excellent post Cameron1...it's nice to see someone have something to say here that is both rational and polite...well done dude :)

by Shlomo Ben-Ami (former Israeli foreign minister)? He talks about the balance of forces and of motivation in the 1948 war and how it favoured Israel, how the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza since 1967 is anything but liberal; that Israeli attitudes have always been as important a part as Arab intransigence. And I think it's very hard to argue with his conclusion that "internationally legitimised borders will offer Israel more deterrent power than F-16 raids on terrorist targets that end up killing innocent civilians without deterring the terrorists". But you know if people on both sides can't see how in the wrong they are (as this talkback sadly demonstrates)then this tragedy will never be solved, no matter how much firepower either side uses, no matter how many innocents are killed.

It is appropriate that you cite corrupt organizations like the UN as a creditable source. The UN allows China to be on the HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. If you were educated by history like me, instead of the propaganda of anti-semetic socialist groups; you would understand. After they come after the Jews what makes you think you will be safe? I hope "Lord" Asriel never lives to see first hand the depth of his ignorance (and those like him) would bring to this world. Sleep tight.

So you didn't bother with the links I posted. Well as you think anything that disagrees with you is just propaganda I'm not suprised. Oh btw I'm educated by history and in history, so I think I'll pass on your obviously partisan rubbish, oh and I liked your bit of "after the jews" paranoia, I laughed my ass off.

So did Poland, France, Russia, etc. Moron.

Tell me as you are so educated by history, what country in the middle east is going to be allowed to invade countries and exterminate Jews? I mean you don't think we in the US might have a little something to say about it? The fact is if you have accuse me of anti-semitism (which is ironic as palestinians are semites really anyway) when I have said or implied no such thing, you have already lost any credibility you may have had.

Wahh!! I was in western civ I in my community college! I know history! WAHHH!!! WAHH! The US should come to save palestine!! WAHH!! Hey MORON the US has been a long time supporter and ally of Israel. Palestine, breeding ground for terrorists, creation grounds of the airline hijacking, and loving era of modern terrorism! They are sooooo good! We should give them one huge fucking hippy hug and preach peace to them! Israel is so evil! OMG they are comminting horrible atrocities! HEY FUCKHEAD ITS WAR. War aint pretty moron, bad things happen during war, but at least any Israeli's who commit such acts are punished just as any good governemtn would keep its people in check, and vise versus. Palestine pays $10,000 to any family who donates a member for sucide bombers. Yes even their children, who are so horribly oppressed... WAHHHHHHHH!! My favorite comment is the one about being, "more reasoned, sensible responses." Senstive? You think some palastine sent terrorist sawing your childrens head off with a rusty blade while they scream in terror and you are bound and gagged and knowing your next is FUCKING SENSIBLE?!? WAHHHHH!!!! I wish I could suck terrorist cock in real life, than over the internet! WAHHH!! You'd think the jews have the right to some kind of life better than the shit you spew about them, you know, being the most oppressed people of the entire planets history! Dont even make me list it for you slow kids in "history." WAHH I TOOK WESTERN CIV!?!?!!!!!!1111

Incredible extrapolation of what I said though. Hugely inaccuarate but the sheer vim you gave it was nice. Grow up a little and you might be able to converse normally. Have a nice day.

Dont even think you high up there wussy. Your in the same boat as me. Just because you try to back your opinion without a clear rant doesnt make you any better. You used personal insults/attacks in your conversation pieces to force your opinion. That makes you no better than what I did, since you cant have an intellgent discussion without being open in thought like some of the others here. I like ranting, its fun and just as effective(if not more so) vs little Crybaby's like you. I have the ability to old an intellegent discussion without being "offended" or slinging insults if I want to, thats what makes me different. Higher forms of humanity have the ability to discuss any topic without any personal feelings getting in the way of discussion. Wether they choose to use it or not dictates their success on the field of intellectual battle. Though no one ever said using a blunt object on a skeleton like you is also not effective. By the way, notice how incredibly ironic your name is "Lord Asriel?" Mabye you should look it up, rather than proudly sport a name like that. To end this posting, here is your official Crybaby ticket sir, you can send it in with a check to the central infractions beuro. No arguments, thats the law. Cry more nub, kthxbye.

you've read it? Fantastic. Now did you read historyguys posts? Ok good, all you said in that post about me can be applied to him, yet obviously you disagree with my points and feel the need to rant (which honestly just makes you look a little sad), ranting doesn't really hold water as it covers up inability to debate reasonably, and if the ranter can debate reasonably but chooses to rant unprovoked instead, it usually shows a rather self pitying narcissistic streak. It's ironic that you posted a crying whine of a post, and then call me a crybaby for being thoroughly unimpressed with and disdainful of, your tactics. You'll note my first post on this TB is nothing but reasonable. After my intelligence is insulted I posted back a sligtly more robust response appropriate to THG's tone. It went in to a little back and forth, but you feel the need to attack me, not for my tactics as you claim, you didn't bother with THG's, but for the content of my posts i.e "both sides have done terrible things", you then try and justify your sad and flaccid attack as being because of the tone of my posts. That's impressively intellectually cowardly of you, but that's just one of your many problems. I'm betting that if you post back, we'll see some more of them._______ p.s I took that ticket in, they said it was invalid as it was issued by some raving self-righteous loon with a massive and misinformed superiority complex. Kudos.

An episode of Frontline titled "Israel's Next War" documents the radical Israeli settlers movement. A settlers child is shown on screen saying that Palestinians are not really people but are dogs and should all be shot. This was from a 7 yr old boy and his family is smiling in the backgreound. You can view it here: http://tinyurl.com/4k97n Radical zionists like this believe that they are God's chosen people and the rest of the world is cattle. I've gotten into "discussions" with some of these racists and they are the most bigoted people I've ever met. I've talked with Skinheads, Black Panthers, La Reconquista and the craziest of all were the damn israeli settlers. The root of all these racist groups are the same. They appeal to the weak minded by telling them they are better than anyone due to their skin color, religion, or whatever. We all need to realize that we're just stupid monkeys stuck on an oasis in the middle of NOWHERE. You think the moon cares about body counts? You think Europa blinked when the last suicide bomber killed some innocents or an Israeli killed a school kid? Get a clue, stupid monkeys.

Hah, well said indeed.

Im not trying to prove anything, im having fun fucking with you Asriel. I think its hilarous when crybaby's like you feel the need to defend yourself over the internet. I'm getting a kick out of this, thats all, so stop with your supposed intellectual bullshit because its too funny! My sides hurt! I'm not trying to debate shit with you, im just having a hoot making you all defensive and whiney. WAHHH Crybaby Police is narssitic! WAHHH!! Hes intellecually cowardly! WAHH!! rofl You really think I, or anyone else really cares what a whiney bitch like you thinks? I dont give a shit what you or anyone else thinks because your BS doesnt hold a match over the internet. So continue crying, by all means. Oh and I cant belive you "took that ticket in" what a moron, thats not even funny, but it didnt sound like you meant it as a joke, but were serious. Hahaha!! What a tool! LMAO, oh man too funny! Why dont you take your own "intellectual superiority complex" and share it with your leftist buddies instead of trying to compete with people who dont give a hootin hell what your opinion is. Have fun sitting behind your keyboard shaking red with fustration/anger. I fucking rule you. Why dont you cry some more? OWN3D kthxbye

THERES NO SUCH THING! You cant have jewish nazi's! IT DOESNT WORK. The principal defining feature that seperates everyday facists and nazi's is the race factor, and jews are at the very bottom of the nazi race ideology. ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A JEWISH NAZI! IT GOES AGAINST THE VERY PRICIPALS OF THE NAZI IDEOLOGY! God you people are fucking stupid.

More often than not, Israeli soldiers don't get convicted for this sort of thing. I think it's only happened once. I thought it was this case but I haven't found any records on it - but I do remember it happening this one time, just saying that's all ... IDF attorney tells family two-year internal probe had not uncovered proof of wrongdoing and IDF soldiers would not be put on trial TEL AVIV - Relatives of the British cameraman who was killed in an exchange of gunfire in 2003 met IDF Prosecutor General Avichai Mandelblith Wednesday to hear why IDF soldiers involved in the incident would not be put on trial. James Miller, 34, was killed in the Rafah refugee camp in the Gaza Strip while making a documentary,

fantastic, you try and show me up as some whiny egotist and manage to explain to anyone reading why you are a humungous prick instead, good going. Do you self implode so easily in real life too? You seem to think that me taking 2 minutes out of my day to throughly school you constitutes whining, yet saying things like "own3d" makes you the most wonderful person on here. Hahahahaha, god your so damn funny and you don't even know why. Oh and I like the way that after your first argument is totally shot down you fall back on the old "I'm just having a joke here" how very whiny and cowardly of you. Yes I took an imaginary ticket in seriously?!?!? LMAO this is really quite amusing, you come on here with some faux self righteous sctick and when are shown up to be nothing but a whining bitch you switch your entire arguments in a vain attmept to deflect criticism, that's about as much of a crybaby thing to do as is possible, bravo troll,bravo. Please post again, I don't think enough people have seen quite how stupid some of you righties can be. Thanks for demonstrating.

I was just steamed at what people are willing to puut up with. I think one thing is unavoidable; any nation that makes race and creed a prerequisite for citizenship is by definition a racist state. No nation that tries to enforce ethnic homogeneity of any kind and for whatsoever reason, however worthy, will succeed in being anything other than despotic. Any state that forbids intermarriage between people of differing race, religion or ethnicity is already failing in every way that a state can fail. There is no avoiding this and no defending it through pragmatism. I won't work. It cannot work. it will not work.

Dude, I hope you're not referring to Israel. It is in no way against the law to engage in "intermarriage" there.

ROFL IM SELF IMPLODING!

Shut up you FASCIST NAZI troll! You are an idiot. End of story, end of discussion.

if you marry an Israeli and are from the wrong ethnic group. Which is effectively the same thing.

"Can be" under what circumstances? I don't think it's automatic.