New GOBLET OF FIRE pics appear! Owls! Tombstones! More!

Well, it is.

...yeah, finished it recently. I thought it was pretty mediocre until the last fifty-so pages; although the Voldemort origin story was inspired, and the death of...nah, I wouldn't be that cruel...redeemed it.

just kidding. Film looks to be shaping up pretty well.

As long as they do the Cedric/Harry/You-Know-Who scene justice, as well as the landing of the French school's ship, I'm there.

It's good to know that these guys aren't slacking on putting real effort into keeping the movies fresh. I mean beyond the stories they're based on, they could tuen out some pretty bad screenplays, and the realization on film could fail in so many MANY ways, but they have managed to keep it together! My fears of this one sucking because the book was as big as TWO movies and they hacked a lot out are fading with all the good reports coming in. I gotta see this at least to know how the integrity was maintained after all the trimming.

Damn AICN is fast on reporting news, whew! http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/release/video/news20050725.html

The whole scene just won't seem so menacing without the surrounding darkness.

I hope they do an episode for Extras on set...

Much like the first two without Alfonso Cuar

Me too.

dude

Its not uncommon for a night scene to be filmed during the day and then "corrected" during post.

was worse than Dumbledore dying in the half blood prince....

So, I don't feel too much like a creepy person for thinking he's hot. I just keep reminding myself.. "less than 3 years older than him.. it's ok." ANYHOO. The pictures are definitely reassuring. This book was probably one of the best to read in terms of pure entertainment and grief.. and stretching my imaginations limits. So, I can't wait to see it imagined onto the screen.

Hate to sound like a Harry Potter nerd, but in the new book it says that Voldemort's dad was Tom Riddle, and the Marvolo came from his grandfather on his mother's side.

While your last post actually made me smile for its sense of humor, I have to say that was a pretty obnoxious thing to do. Once you're out of high school you're gonna realize that being a misunderstood dick doesn't impress anyone except for, well, kids in high school.

when did it get so thick? it's a bit disturbing as he's still fairly short. maybe he'll grow into it.

Eli Roth needs therapy after that and Hostel. GOF is probably going to be one the only good film this winter. I don't have high hopes for Narnia but will see.

You've got to be kidding.

If you look, all the names have the same death year (1943). Tom Marvolo Riddle is listed there because in 1943, he stopped being TMR and became Lord Voldemort. If you look at the top, you'll see his dad Thomas Riddle listed. What gets me, is it looks like his mother is listed as "RY RIDDLE" when her name was discovered to be Merope in Half-Blood Prince.

I think I might be a bit jaded, but after seeing that movie dozens of times I'm starting to root for Mr. Potter myself.

It should be grandparents and father - and Marvolo came from his mother's side. Idiots - makes you wonder what other detail they screw up.

I didn't used to agree with the "Frodo is Harry Potter" stuff until now.

Hermione and Pearl Necklace of Joy. And for all those who are getting ready to type that it's just wrong, tell me you weren't thinking it. Grade A, I'm telling you.

but nice try....

actually, Monkey Butler is correct. The three Riddles found dead in the house and buried nearby are Voldemort's father, Tom, and Tom's mother and father--Voldemort's grandparents, Thomas and Mary. The name Marvolo (Voldemort's middle name, from his Mother's father) should NOT be on that tombstone. Read the dates-the son listed there died at 28, the parents at 63 and 60. Voldemort was a teenager when he killed the Riddle family and pinned it on his uncle Morfin. No one in the books thinks TMR (Voldemort himself) is buried there, and his mother Merope certainly wouldn't be, either. Moreover, in the book, the tombstone simply reads 'Tom Riddle.' May seem like a small detail, but it'll sow some confusion by the time they get around to film 6...

Well maybe LV's mum's nickname was "Merry" for Merope, or something. Who cares about this, really? There are many little nitpicky details that were overlooked or changed in the Azkaban flick, and that's everyone's fave. And I also disagree, I thought HBP was good for some back story and probably setting up the final book, but it was ultimately dissatisfying and kind of empty. Even the *death* didn't make up for that, for me. And I do think that Ms. Rowling might be straying a bit too far into the LOTR allegory if she goes where I think she's going to go in the next book...won't say it lest it's a spoiler but those of you who have read it probably know what I'm referring to...what do you think?

I believe J.K. Rowling made sure they were correct, we can't really see them that well anyway.

It's more likely that the elder Tom and Mary on the gravestone are LV's Dad and wife after he dumped LV's birthmom, and they named their kid Tom Marvolo, not knowing he had a son by the witch. This is pretty clearly explained in the beginning of book 4, but the filmmakers made a mistake thinking "Marvolo" was a paternal grandfather, as this was not known for certain until book 6. LV's mom died penniless and nameless and was probably buried in a pauper's grave. In the book GOF in the beginning, it was Mr. Tom Riddle, his wife and TEEN son Tom jr who are killed by a teenage LV. Tom Riddle Sr. never knew his witch ex-wife had his son, and never had anything to do with her after he left her. All that said, I think it's a mistake easily overlooked, because Harry's going to be tied to that gravestone for the rest of the scene, so hopefully it'll be outta site outta mind by the time Episode 6...I mean HP 6... comes out in theatres in 3 years.

Sorry I'm wrong, the youngest riddle on the tombstone is Voldie's dad, but he'd have been 12 when he fathered LV according to the date on the tombstone. I didn't realise pre-teenage pregnancy was such a problem in the thirties!

And Marvolo is hardly a muggle name. And we can see them clearly enough to see the dates and the Marvolo. And we can read the book and see what should be there. I hope they do fix it - otherwise someone who just listens to the films won't be watching the end - they'll be sitting pondering the fact that the dates just don't work!

Tom Marvolo Riddle (Voldemort) murdered his father Tom Riddle and grandparents in 1943. The grave should be his father's and paternal grandparents. Check out the HP Lexicon folks please. JKR never named Voldies paternal grandparents so they may have been called Thomas and Mary they were born in 1880 and 1883 so they have to be his grandparents. The last name has been completely messed up by the set designers, hopefully a computer wizard can airbrush out the date of birth error and middle name mistake. Tom Marvolo Riddle (Lord Voldemort) was named Tom after his father (who may have been named after his father) and Marvolo after his mother's (Merope Gaunt) father Marvolo Gaunt. He murdered his father and paternal grandparents when he was about 16 which means the DOB is wrong on the gravestone as well it should not read 1915 as Tom snr would have been about 11 when he fathered Tom jnr (Voldie).

In the film, "Harry Potter And The Prisoner Of Azkaban," Sirius never signed Harry's permission slip, which would allow Harry to go to Hogsmeade. They will either completely ignore it in this upcoming movie or they will deal with it.

"Harry how can you go to Hogsmeade?" // "Over the summer Sirius signed my permission slip so I can go!!"

....i can't say i've actually read all the books, or, to be quite honest, ANY of the books. so i can't comment on the story. however, i do think that the art direction for the movie looks f-in' fantastic. i really got a kick out of it in the last harry potter--loved it. the layouts, environments, creatures--i thought they kicked ass, man. and now they have a DRAGON--yeah, that's right--a living, breathing, dragon--more to the point, this movie looks like a helluva good time. cheers to good art direction!

....I doubt that this will blow my cunt off,no in fact it will stay where it is for now.the third movie blow it off alright and the last 50 or so pages of half blood prince blow it of but this wont..oh well.

Is it at all possible that the name on the tombstone is Voldemort himself? 28 is pretty young for a father to be killed by his son.

You know what I mean

...They're the ones used in this week's "Entertainment Weekly" story on the HP Phenomenon. Which also, incidentally, gives away several plot points from HBP---including who dies!!! And Aunt Petunia? "There's a lot more to her than meets the eye," according to JK Rowling, with respect to Book 7.

It isn't as though the moviemakers give a fuck about the books anyway. Even before book 6 arrived there was enough information to know that the gravestone is wrong. Firstly, Voldemort's father can't have been 28 when he died because that would mean Voldemort was concieved when he was like 11 or 12 (Volde was 16 when he killed his father and paternal grandparents). The name 'Tom Marvelo Riddle' is wrong. That is Voldemort's name, not his father's. However, that name of the stone is meant to be Voldemort's father, so unless it's changed (along with his age...I'd say change from 28 to 38 or older) then it will be wrong forever! Mwuhahahehabwaha!

This should not be posted, these pics were in Entertainment Weekly last week.

If you actually read the article instead of prancing straight to the TalkBack section to bitch, you'd have noticed the fact that these first popped up in Entertainment Weekly was acknowledged. For those who don't buy or subscribe to Entertainment Weekly, these are hi-res caps provided by Warner Bros. themselves.

...the Empire Strikes Back comparison is interesting...I shall ponder that. But what I think about the book is that it's set-up. There had been a couple thousand pages of twist and turn filled ups and downs leading up to book 6. JK needed to center and bring everything to a head - with the normal good amount or "what?! where did that come from?!" thrown in for good measure. This perfectly sets up book 7 to start and poroceed differently than all the others. Personally I think it's brilliant. The dry somber tone of 6 also lends itself well to the end of the book. Which just kind of smacks you upside the head.

1. "I'm Harry Fucking Potter and I make the calls!" 2. "Cock, cock, cock! I love cock!" 3. "Cock, cock, cock! I love cock!" 4. "Elijah Wood's DNA-us stealus!"

Who cares where "Marvolo" came from? It's just a conveniently stupid name created from the leftover anagram letters, and should be taken as such. Also, I haven't read The Half-Blood Prince yet, but if it's true that Dumbledore dies, it comes as no surprise. J.K. Rowling may not be a great writer, but she's certainly smart enough to do her research on folklore and popular epic archetypes. The wise sage who helps the hero early in his journey almost always dies. (Obi Wan, Yoda, Mr. Rogers) Why change the formula?

I don't "prance;" I scroll & click. But the point, was that the pix aren't "New" (as per the AICN headline) and that almost ALL of this Talkback chatter would be different if the participants had seen & read the ET ish where they first materialized. Also they'd know who gets killed in HBP w/o having to read it.

...this isn't really cause for debate, but honestly, are you gonna get pedantic about how new "new" is? Like I've already said, some people don't buy Entertainment Weekly. You obviously do. For people who don't, these pictures were only now made available to them. Just because they're not "scoop" pictures doesn't mean some people don't appreciate being linked to them. Harry Potter has fans everywhere, and not all of them subscribe to Entertainment Weekly or patron the website the online versions of the pictures came from. Quint wasn't trying to pass this off as breaking news, but rather just link the pictures to anyone who might be interested. And, once more, he credited every single source that preceded him in publishing these photos, including Entertainment Weekly. So what's the big deal again? The "TalkBack chatter" would be different somehow, or something?

Ha! So there! www.unseenfilms.com

"some people don't buy Entertainment Weekly. You obviously do"...No, I don't. And if Dumbledore were still alive---Oops!

I don't quite understand people's criticism of these books on the basis that some of what Rowling has written has been done in some way before now. That's really a quite idiotic argument to make, since the imagination can only create from what is already contained in the mind. I'm sure somewhere along the way J.R.R. Tolkien read something that inspired his work, so it's rather foolish to use him as a benchmark for originality in relation to Rowling, as he was definitely not the first writer to create an alternate mythological world and adorn it with indigenous characters and details, and Rowling's world, (which is very different from Tolkien's in many significant aspects), is put to much different use, than Tolkien did with his rambling tale. Originality is not the sole, or necessary, objective of art, and to think that way robs you of a great deal of pleasure in the world of fiction, and in films.

I guess you don't read much besides for you own ego-driven rants, do you? Somebody else was already obnoxious enough to spoil the book farther up the TalkBack, you've yet to explain your argument, knowing who dies at the end of HBP has nothing to do with examining pictures from 'Goblet of Fire.' What, do you think you're rebelling against "The Man" in all its complacency by spoiling the book for people who haven't read it? All you're doing is confirming that you're a spiteful little piece of shit. Get fucked.

I really can't stand people like you. "Oops." How cute.

Really? Dumbledore's the one who dies? You mean for once Entertainment Weakly got it right? You clearly have issues, Rib. And I have better things to do than indulge them. Ta ta.

A theory is certainly not a spoiler, so tell us what you have in mind. You could even put SPOILER in front of it in case others wouldn't want to read, but I have read The Lord of the Rings and all six Harry Potter's, and I don't have a clue where book 7 is going. So lets hear what you think.

I have issues because you're a petty monster who says the things you say deliberately because it pushes other people's buttons. Small little king of a small little hill pal. Would you rather I didn't respond to you? Or that I did, but not angrily? You did what you did deliberately to get a reaction. You bitched at Quint for calling something "new" when YOU knew that, technically, it was newer 4 days ago. I called you on it and your rebuttal was to ruin the book for anyone who hadn't yet read it. Don't tell me I have issues just because I hate willfully mean people like you. Or do, if that gets you off.

No. The book's been out long enough that even some of the national media---for instance a major pop entertainment mag---have weathered the hype and anticipation and are now talking about some of the "spoilers." Stay in orbit or under your rock if you, or anyone *still* waiting to read the book, want to avoid the INEVITABLE, by this time, leaks....You have issues for many reasons, none of them having a thing to do with me. For starters, try being less anal. Oh, and if I were you I'd demand a refund for the Mind Reading lessons, too (I know, that one probably went completely over your head). [***WARNING***SPOILER ALERT: There's no Santa Claus, either.]

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Some of you are spot on correct, but man, I was surprised how many people who, although they sounded like they knew what they were talking about, didn't know anything. LOL (no offense). If you read Half-blood Prince, it clearly states that the three people who were killed that day in the Riddle house were Tom Riddle (Voldemort father) and Tom's parents (Voldemorts grandparents). I think the Marvolo name has some of you mistakenly thinking that this is where Voldemort was buried, but it's a mistake by the director who assumed Voldemorts middle name came from his father.

Preposterous!

Is Daniel Radcliffe a Hobbit???

Alright, so here's my idea of where the story is going, at least in a general sense. If anyone hasn't read HBP then this might be considered a SPOILER since it refers to plot content there. Now, this might be a bit hokey if it actually does happen, but the most obvious thing that will happen (in my mind) is DumbleD coming back from the dead. You know, he was in the Order of the Phoenix, his bird was a Phoenix, etc., the phoenix being a legendary bird that rises from its ashes in a continuous cycle of death and rebirth. And if this does happen, it will be very similar to what happened to Gandalf. Of course the whole resurrection theme is not unique to Tolkein, but a wizard resurrection...Anyway, I think that he (DumbleD) and Snape had plotted together to have Snape kill him (DumbleD really did have reason to continue to trust him, and Snape had to help Draco as he was bound to, which he surely confessed to DumbleD). Because of a couple of things, but certainly one of them is that he needed to die in order for Harry to strike out on his own and become truly self-reliant. I just can't believe that DumbleDs death would have been so pointless - I mean the necklace wasn't even real! END SPOILER So what do you think? Admittedly these aren't very specific, or even particularly insightful, predictions. But I'd like to hear any others!

See end of previous post. Just an idea. Perhaps one that everyone else had, but hadn't read it here yet.

about from a lot of potter fans and well it's a nice theory but i'm not on that side of the fence...gonna have to find more convincing convincers (yep, my english is englishy)

I loves da Asian chicks! I'm hoping for China Chow, but I'm sure they'll deliver Maggie Cho. FUCKERS!

snape is a prat....yay