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It's The New Trailer For THE LONE RANGER, Kimosabe!!
The Kidd here...
It's about that time for the studios to start ramping up promotion for the summer releases that'll be heading our way in 2013, so consider me unsurprised that we're getting a new look at Disney's THE LONE RANGER this morning.
In the teaser, we got a bit of a peek at how important control of the railroads will be throughout the film's story. This time out, we get a better sense of who the Ranger is and a greater feel for his interaction and relationship with Tonto. It does take about 30 seconds for you to even realize this is a trailer for THE LONE RANGER, but once it gets going... well, let's just say that I'm not too concerned about Johnny Depp's role here... and who thought that would have been the case months ago? There had been serious concern, based on his Jack Sparrow portrayals that Depp might ham it up in the sidekick role, but he looks to be playing it fairly straight and seamlessly enough that I don't anticipate his Tonto being a distraction in the final cut. He certainly didn't throw me off here, and that's a good start.
Plus, this picture looks beautiful, so, at least we'll have a flick that's quite pleasing to the eye. I just hope the story holds up. However, with Tom Wilkinson as the villain, I'd say it at least has a fighting chance.
THE LONE RANGER opens on July 3, 2013.
-Billy Donnelly
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Big time guh
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I think?
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Dec. 11, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST
Really Depp is the biggest movie star in the world, he can pick and choose any script he wants. Why does he keep doing Fluff???
by Mr Soze
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should make for a reference quality Blu-ray...Depp playing it straight is weird...has potential but will most likely turn out to be a disappointment
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Could someone pass this advice on to Batman, Spider-Man, Iron Man and Captain America, please? Oh, trailer looks like comedy shit.
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Where are the werewolves?
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Seems kinda forced, comical even, reminds me of that Southpark episode :(
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Dec. 11, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST
The Lone Ranger has that kind of acceleration of violence, but he has a rather intense personal code. I’m pretty sure he belongs behind bars…
by MrWug
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Yes, I especially liked his dramatic performance in the scene with the horse halfway up a tree.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST
Can we go back to pre-1977 where every new movie doesn't try so hard to be a summer blockbuster?
by JMoe
whatever
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Dec. 11, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST
Wow doesn't this look and feel off big time. There was no need to say brought you by the producers of Pirates cause that's what this looks like.
by Cedric Ford
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Needed to be said twice
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Dec. 11, 2012, 8:40 a.m. CST
The studio is PETRIFIED of the mask. LOVE IT! -NEVER TAKE OFF THE MASK- indeed. Apparently, never put it on.
by Nintendarth
Notice we only get about 3 seconds in this entire trailer of the Ranger in-mask, in-costume. The studio CLEARLY knows they've got a massive flop on their hands so they're doing EVERYTHING they can to hide the mask as much as possible. They know people don't want to see that sort of thing any more. They know they've made a horrible, JOHN CARTER level mistake here. Oops. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Dec. 11, 2012, 8:41 a.m. CST
Also, LOVE how they sneak in the TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE sound as the train derails. That camera thing, wauuuuUUUUUPhhh ? Anyone else notice that?
by Nintendarth
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Depp better be on screen every second of this film or it's in trouble.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST
Would have preferred a more subtle lone ranger movie without the comedy and typical second and third act giant action explosion scenes.
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 11, 2012, 8:48 a.m. CST
I did feel a tingle when all the kids see LR from the train windows.
by whatevillurks
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Not great but "kinda" good. It will probably be about the same quality as the Pirates movies though, which says a lot. But looks like a decent popcorn flick. Depp is always interesting even when he misfires.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST
Could've made the lone ranger in the same vain as eastwood's unforgiven. Not a Pirates of the carebien in the west.
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 11, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST
Marlon Brando, were he alive today, would melt down his Oscar and pour it over Depp's head (Khal Drogo style) for that "Indian" accent.
by Monnie Knapp
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Dec. 11, 2012, 8:52 a.m. CST
Dated mid-2000s-looking CG, charisma vacuum lead and over the hill Depp
by Margot Tenenbaum
Oh dear.
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...to thwart the cunning plan of the dastardly, steam-powered Loco-Master? And they do it on a horse that can climb trees? Yay for stoopid.
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This looks profoundly moronic.
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You haven't been paying attention
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Dec. 11, 2012, 9:13 a.m. CST
So Hollywood has even managed to turn the good ol' Lone Ranger into explosion porn
by Samuel Fulmer
Thanks, but no thanks.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST
Shouldn't we be offended a white man is playing a Native American?
by pizzatheface
Just sayin'. It wouldn't fly with him playing a black man. And Natives are the most underutilized actors/characters in the world. Sure Hollywood strives for "diversity" in everything, but how many Native American characters can you name in a movie or TV show outside of a Western?
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I hate being THAT GUY. The guy that looks at a trailer and says "SUCKS!" without really knowing what the final product will be...but that really, really looks... Okay...It's not the type of movie I, as a long-time RANGER fan, wants to see. The silliness. The Tonto pidgin-speak. I'd rather something more along the lines of a genuine Western. Maybe not as "serious" as, say, the recent version of TRUE GRIT or UNFORGIVEN, but straight-faced. Very disappointed.
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They threw the Pirates logo in there for the kids. Smart move. My kids watched some of the serial and dug it. I think it's got potential. Now while a serious, dark Lone Ranger might work for a certain demographic. I think the fun pulpy nature of the material lends itself to the summer crowds. Bring on some 'splosions!
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But I think he says he's .002% cherokee or something and that's how he's getting away with it.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST
Someone`s got $50million leftover in their back pocket.
by higgledyhiggles
KerChing !
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Dec. 11, 2012, 9:40 a.m. CST
I have faith this movie will be good, but not a great trailer.
by JackSlater4
If it bombs Verbinski might owe Disney a Star Wars movie, which is cool.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST
And FYI, Verbinski made a straight up western already, Rango, you cheap fucks didn't go see it.
by JackSlater4
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'consider me unsurprised'-- Great, you have the ability to predict regularly scheduled marketing. And to brag about it! 'well let's just say I'm not too concerned'-- I bet Disney's relieved about that. But seriously Kidd, at least you make regular posts, unlike most of this site's contributors. What did your now-famed-unpublished post even say?
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Dec. 11, 2012, 9:52 a.m. CST
Oh my God, shoud I spend $8.50 and two hours of my life watching this movie??!!
by Snookeroo
Sure.
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No he played a white dude who as a child was adopted by Native Americans and lived with them.
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When I see this shit sober it looks dumb as hell, but when I saw that first trailer during Man With The Iron Fists I thought it was really cool, even though I'd seen it online already and I knew better.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 10:09 a.m. CST
Why are you talking to that horse? why I am covered in dirt? why are white people still portraying indians?
by 77AD
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HATES it. It must drive them crazy that all these superhero movies have to have masks for at least part of the story.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST
Maybe Disney will add a Tonto robot to Big Thunder Mountain if this is a hit
by rev_skarekroe
Waving at people and saying strange Johnny Depp things right before you go down a hill.
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werewolves.... which means they are not done with them, which means they will be CG, which means they will look like fake pieces of shit, which means I will wish i was watching American Werewolf or Dog soldiers, which means this movie is gonna suck balls.
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I'm willing to give him and the producers the benefit of the doubt. It sounds more like a dialect of American English rather than the ignorant savage trying to communicate, which is the traditional Tonto-speak. So, THAT aspect of the movie I'm okay with. The rest of it...I don't know. From that trailer, they really over-thought this movie. But I think we've been saying that since we heard about the massive budget.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST
Wild Wild West 2: Train in Vain (needs more giant spiders)
by girugamesh
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But how the HELL can a Western cost 250 million dollars? Once upon a time, they were the go-to cheap option for studios.
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...Coulda been Ryan Reynolds as The Lone Ranger and Shia la Duffbeer as Tonto... It's pretty forgettable, but like i said, coulda been worse.
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...am I the only one who has a problem with The Lone Ranger being in all black? To me, it's like they tried "Batman-fy" him or something. I thought the blue shirt with red handkerchief was standard fare for him... it just doesn't *look* like the Lone Ranger to me.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST
I hear a lot of sizzle, but I don't see much in the way of steak.
by Yamato
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Dec. 11, 2012, 11:25 a.m. CST
Hey, if Kirk Lazarus can play Lincoln Osiris, than Depp can play Tonto
by Yamato
I've heard that Depp won't drop character until the DVD commentary is done.
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Denzel in Equalizer? Satisfied because Depp is like .1% Indian? I can promise you Denzel has more white blood than Depp has Indian blood, so why doesn't that satisfy you? Racist hypocrites.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST
Not that I'm offended an actor should act outside his race...
by pizzatheface
That may just show good acting chops. I just don't know why the double standard when it comes to diversity and the lack of American Indian actors or characters. You know people would be up in arms if it was a white man playing a black man, but Eddie Murphy and the Wayans can get away with playing white people and nobody bats an eye.
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I'm a big Depp fan, so I'm already interested. The action looks pretty good, I love Westerns. And if Gore Verbinski does as half a good a job as he did on the awesome Rango than I'm down.
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And did anyone else think crotch landing when they saw that giant metal rod come off the train?
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His great-grandmother was cherokee. Now granted he looks white as the driven snow, but it's there LOL. And at this point I think we all have a little something in our family's history.
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Looks like a good family film. I'm game.
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are dead or dying faster than the Republican party. Come to think of it, they are the same people. FLOP.
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Time to get new friends.
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I really not interested in watching Tonto: The Movie. Seriously it seems like The Lone Ranger is the sidekick in this one.
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That might be a good way to watch it. Imagine his character as HST on peyote.
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This looks awful. I could only make it through the first Pirate movie. Not gonna waste time on this. LR looks like a wuss.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 12:18 p.m. CST
To those complaining about Depp not being a full blooded Injun
by Mugato5150
It's a $250 mill Disney movie. You find an Indian actor who can open it. Did I see Helena Bonham Carter? I think Depp, Burton and she have an unhealthy relationship.
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looks good to me.
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Seriously, if I hear "Injun" said one more time as if you're being clever, I will cave your balls in with your own burning cross you Ku Klux Kockbags.
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Ride!
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Let's smokum peace pipe.
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This is not it.
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As Cher sang. Or was it Harry? Where's my meds?.....
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I bet HW sees something like Weaving's perfect 'behind the mask the whole time' portrayal of 'V' in Vendetta and ignore the fact that he was brilliant throughout the movie and that the character worked perfectly without ever once seeing his *eyes*, much less his face, only to pay attention to the profit the film made or lost. until a film with a full time masked character breaks the bank, this will likely continue indefinitely.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST
It's not who the Lone Ranger is under the mask, but the actions that he does that define him.
by kindofabigdeal
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Dec. 11, 2012, 12:52 p.m. CST
Should have gotten Jim Jarmusch to direct and Gary Farmer to play the Lone Ranger
by Josh Acid
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As a Mexican-American with a sprinkle of injun blood my family finds it funny that all white people who claim Native-American blood always say Cherokee. Maybe it's because it's like the default Indian name when you don't know your tribe. They just recall that song about Cherokee people, Cherokee tribe. Sometimes I think that a group of white settlers adopted the Native way of life and made their own anglo-saxon tribe.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST
Name one movie in history with a "let's do this" in the trailer that turned out good.
by Mel
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This seems like a good place for a Django comment, I saw the film at the Director's Guild theater. The good news: it's classic Tarantino. The bad news: it's classic Tarantino The expected news: he is still the worst actor in the cast. All the actors bring their A game but the situations felt forced, whereas Basterds felt organic. See it, you'll like it, don't expect Jesus.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST
Are there going to be a lot of 'THIS IS RACIST' comments that they have a white guy playing an indian??
by peter
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I knew hiring Jack White to do the score would have studio heads getting fidgety. As for the film: just seems like "Pirates" in the west.
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But we should accept it just like we accept Electro is Black. Tonto was a 3rd rate character anyway! AMIRITE???? WHAT? THIS FILM ISN'T IN 3-D???!!! NO SALE!!!
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Well Burton is married to Helena Bonham Carter and he basically made Deep a movie star.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST
re: "Ironic racism is still racism, you fucking hipster shits."
by buggerbugger
It's not racism if one of your great-grandmothers was Cherokee. Johnny Depp told me so.
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Sorry, Johnny Depp obviously is getting paid, god bless him and his agent. When I read about the press that Disney did a few years back, they had some Disney zombie on stage mentioning upcoming movies. One by one Depp kept coming on stage in various stages of dress. I was done at that point. Hey do not get me wrong, if movies bomb the message is sent. But there are people paying money and attending these shit fests. I refuse to give in and watch CW movies or paying into Johnny Depp's retirement fund. I miss movie, great movies. Not the same CG bullshit. Diving under the car, jumping over a cliff and landing without a scratch. Or a person fighting 30 demons and killing them all with one blow. Yawn. The Matrix fucked movies for at least 20 years. Now we have Victoria Secret models beating up men 100 pounds heavier. Really? I attend screenings now to save my money. Have yet to see a movie worthy of 10.50, fuck that, 5.00. One after another is just bullshit. A few come out that are original and somewhat entertaining. Looper comes to mind. But overall, I feel sorry for kids growing up. The shit that is advertised as great is not worthy of my DVR.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST
Not sure about story...but Depp sure knows how to get the best ouut of character
by DARKJEDI
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And you people complain about Lucas and Bay raping your childhoods. This is awful. My God. That looks like everything I hated about At Worlds End x 10.
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Can't figure out how a western can cost that much. Let's break this down... $50 million to Depp? $30 million to Bruckheimer? $20 million to Verbinski? $50 million for production? That leaves $100 million for what... the catering?
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Dec. 11, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST
@skippy the wondermule: Did Leo have a shed out back with a sign that says 'Dead Ni@@er Storage'?
by kindofabigdeal
Inquiring minds want to know.
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I'm still not sold on this flick, but this trailer is a solid maybe. The 'something not right about that horse' line made me laugh out loud. In a good way.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST
Are many of y'all experts on native american accents in the 1880s?
by Royston Lodge
I don't know how native americans spoke English in the 1880s, so I cannot really comment on how accurate Depp's accent is. It might be spot-on, for all I know.
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...so sad...
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The Lone Ranger started out on radio. Then it was a black & white serial. When did the blue vest and the red bandana become canon? I think it might have been the CBS cartoon from the late 60s that first used those colours. If true, I'm not sure that counts as unbreakable canon.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
Also, the blue shirt could have been for technical reasons.
by Royston Lodge
Back when they shot on high-contrast black & white film, maybe the actor wore a blue shirt because of the way it would show up on film, like the way early silent film actors wore blue lipstick. Just a thought...
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Just meh.
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It's a 250 million movie. You cast THE FUCKING TITULAR CHARACTER with a major star, and let Tonto be a native American. Like Armie Hammer is some kind of major star, and he's the title character. There is no excuse for this, only $$ reasons, and their knowledge that people will give them a "pass" unless the job is being taken from THEIR group. It is reactions to this that make me say: sure. From now on, I'll cheer every time a white character is cast non-white. It isn't fair if only one side gets to cheat.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST
It's so unfair that they didn't cast midgets in the Lord of the Rings.
by Royston Lodge
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They didnt cast midgets because midgets are humans and hobbits are hobbits. A midget would not look like hobbit. Furthermore. Just because there are no midgets in the movies doesnt mean there would not be midgets among men in middle earth somewhere. So the correct complaint would be that it's unfair that they did not cast midgets as midgets (as humans) in the lord of the rings or write them in.
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It's raping my parents' childhood. And it's not the first time. Some of us are old enough to remember the LAST time they made an awful Lone Ranger movie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_the_Lone_Ranger
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Correct. Not unlike using cholcoate for blood. .... Seems I recall from my childhood Lone Ranger action figures in grey/white, not blue. Isn't he wearing whatever "rangers" wore in those days? I thought this was a uniform. Its the mask that makes him "lone".
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Dec. 11, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST
Real Texas Rangers tended to wear round, sombrero-like hats, not stetsons.
by Royston Lodge
There was no real 'uniform' in the 1870s/1880s. Some of 'em might have still been wearing their Confederate Army uniforms. I doubt that would go over very well for a movie today.
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Movie people are very fast runners
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Dec. 11, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST
wow. can any of you just STFU and enjoy a movie, anymore?
by billydeewilliams
Rather than bitching about SFX, visual FX, casting, soundtrack?
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It takes me out of the movie, even more so in a Western. The train sequence takes the cake.
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Johnny unfortunately sounds pretty phony.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST
billydeewilliams: So, there should be no comments, ever?
by Royston Lodge
If everybody just enjoyed every single movie without ever questioning any of them, why bother having Talkbacks?
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Gore Verbinski doing a western is like a boy in a toy store. He especially loves the works of Sergio Leone. Armie Hammer getting a leading role in a tentpole film is also assuring. Yet, I'm still not completely sold on Johnny Depp as Tonto. While he looks like he's having a fun time as usual, he couldn't be any more Native American than Jake Gyllenhaal is Persian. Technically, he has Native American ancestry but that's as relevant as anyone claiming to be 1/4th Cherokee. While these sort of castings happen all the time, they needed a major name attached, and he'll undoubtedly be likable in the role, I wonder if they couldn't find any actual Native American actors for the role. Don't think that's possible? Look at Last of the Mohicans!
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Dec. 11, 2012, 5 p.m. CST
Gore Verbinski and Johnny Depp trashed Superman at the boxoffice in 2006
by FlyingToupee
It's time for the Man of Steel to return the favor.
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Seriously, it's exactly the same.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 5:47 p.m. CST
I still think they should've casted a REAL Native American for the role of Tonto
by Kyle DeMattio
But then again, Hollywood is like Congress. Always making piss-poor decisions on how to please us.
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looks good, but its Disney, which means, that had this been NOT disney, it probably could have been a bit more gruesome and real.. Still, I guess the Lone Ranger has to appeal for everybody..
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Dec. 11, 2012, 6:25 p.m. CST
put a no-name Native American actor in a $250m movie. How stupod are you?
by billydeewilliams
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There are a LOT of things I don't like (Johnny freak show Depp, Jerry over the frick'n top Bruckheimer, and the all black outfit), but it looks like a solid, fun movie from the this trailer. Gives you some good insight into the Lone Ranger, and how he becomes who he becomes. And Tonto isn't hamming it up like the dead bird on his head would make you think. I'm not sold, but I'm much closer than I was before.
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That worked out well for Windtalkers. Depp has native heritage and sensitivity to the material and characters he plays. That's more than enough. You can have an authentic native play a character and still have it end up being offensive because the actor agrees to be second fiddle to the white guy and steps and fetches. Depp said he would make this a tribute to the Natives and would ensure the character has respect and is not a stereotype. The people angry at Depp are ugly white guys who hate Depp for being hot, and for making their boners stand at attention causing them to question their manhood.
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um i understand it's all about the benjamins, but it's a little ridiculous that a movie called the lone ranger gives top billing to an actor playing a different character. disney, you have become a sad bunch of pussies. walt's frozen head is vomiting. he was all about risk taking and creating "labors of love". and guess what? he was pretty successful. is there any film company willing to take a risk anymore? does any company care about movie-making anymore, about bringing joy and wonder to the people that watch them? mainstream movies used to be quality. yeah, there was always crap, but the scales were tipped towards quality and ingenuity and imagination and passion and just plain fun. now, it's almost all complete garbage. and the irony is it costs more and more people are going to the movies than ever. so really, we're to blame. and what makes me really sad, and frankly effin livid, is that we don't seem to care either. this is good enough for us. crap is good enough. but, i understand people need to get out and have a nice movie night with the family or friends regardless of what's being served. i get that and i'm to blame too. it just breaks my heart that nobody cares.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 6:47 p.m. CST
uncle-billy, go back to molesting your nephews because you know nothing about movies
by Bobo_Vision
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Dec. 11, 2012, 6:48 p.m. CST
I'm impressed too. And Verbinski is IN with me after RANGO.
by Logan_1973
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Who the fuck is Arnie Hammer? Are you one of these guys who thinks everyone should be famous from birth to headline a movie? If Hollywood thought that way constantly -- and mostly they do but here's why they can't -- then there would be no up-and-comers to replace the aging movie stars. Bruce Willis wasn't famous... until he was. Sylvester Stallone was unknown... until he wrote and forced them to let him star in Rocky. Redford wasn't famous... until Newman said yeah, he can be Sundance. You can't be a movie star until someone makes you so. It's gotta start somewhere. Chicken or the egg, pal. Stop being so close-minded.
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When pirates get blown off shore, they become outlaws on horseback... same crap. different setting. Less water.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 7:10 p.m. CST
I don't see why the studio would be afraid of Armie Hammer wearing the mask for most of the film
by Joey Stars
Johnny Depp's the star of this film, even though it's called the Lone Ranger
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Masks? They don't even trust bandages. Even Polanski said, they'd have committee meetings over JJ Gittes wearing one across his nose bridge in Chinatown. Then they'd strike down the idea. Oh, and The Godfather wouldn't be allowed to be photographed so dark. Gotta see everything and with a blue or green or yellow tint.
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Every comment you lay down... sometimes they start of with well-reasoned points but then you ruin it with a crassly sophomoric mention of cock/boner/molesting-Uncle stuff. Almost. Every. Single. Time. I mean, if I'm noticing it and associating it with your screen handle, you must be doing it a lot. Why do you do that? It's too bad because you've made some viable points along the way.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 7:34 p.m. CST
starring johnny depp as capt jack as jay silverheels as tonto.
by undead_uncle_ben
what happened to the werewolves?
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Sounds like you're still reeling from the genital herpes comment I made about you some time ago. Buck up, Mrs. Hollywood Insider....with all your inside Hollywood stories we know you're no stranger to herpes.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 7:56 p.m. CST
Wild Wild Dead Man: Spirit of Vengeance on Stranger Prairies
by ReportAbuse
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Didn't know you had made the comment. I guess you're keeping track of your own insults toward others, more than your targets do. Wow, still holding some strange grudge about insider stories? I apologize for having had some experience. Feel free to share some of your own, I'm all ears for fun stuff.
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I have a weird photographic memory for conversations. But yes, I do remember you specifically with regards to THAT. I have no grudge, dude. I like you. You're the one starting shit with me. As for my insider stories, I have none. I mean, I've had brushes with celebrity when I was in New York, but I'm not in the industry. I work with the mentally ill. That's what I love. That's why I love talkbacks. You dig? Anywho...see you later, loverboy.
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You'd like to take me down to your basement and show me your special magic tricks. How you magically make your penis grow to twice its length when you caress it. Then how you magically make a white fluid squirt out of your penis when you keep caressing it. That's black magic!!!
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Dec. 11, 2012, 8:50 p.m. CST
I liked Rango a lot... but this looks Stupid as a fridge being nuked.
by T
Perhaps, they should have just CG'd the whole thing.
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Its funny, it really is.
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Straight up garbage.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST
I tell ya... I've seen this trailer for about a month now and
by Brian Hopper
it looks pretty good. Can't wait.
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or Abraham Lincoln, Lone Ranger. It'll make bank. Not as much as Pirates, but people will pay to see it. Me? Not so much. I think it will feel like something between "Sherlock Holmes" and "Shanghai Noon". I'll pass. Give my seat to the lard-ass in Omaha at the IMAX multiplex.
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Heap big pile of buffalo poop. Me no likeum. No go see. Will smoke peace pipe instead.
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Dec. 11, 2012, 11:14 p.m. CST
I'll never get over the bird headpiece based on a painting of a bird flying over an indian
by FrodoFraggins
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Dec. 11, 2012, 11:17 p.m. CST
Frodo, it's not a painting of a bird flying overhead. It's a native with a crow headpiece
by Bobo_Vision
This one: https://www.google.ca/search?q=crow+indian+headdress&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#biv=i|3;d|i70Bw0YCLDHhTM:
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Dec. 11, 2012, 11:32 p.m. CST
I love the logic used sometimes regarding these "masks" to hide the ID of a superhero and the like
by TheSeeker7
He's got a mask that covers maybe about 3 square inches of his face all around the eyes, and his voice is exactly the same. Yeeeeah, who of the Lone Ranger's enemies could POSSIBLY realize that's the same guy??? lol
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Dec. 11, 2012, 11:35 p.m. CST
oh and for the record, a few years ago I started thinking of Gore Verbinski as like the major studio version of Stephen Frears...
by TheSeeker7
For much of his career, Frears seemed to have a vastly prolific resume in terms of the different types of films he directed. He seemed to bounce around different genres a great deal. Well, you look back at Verbinski's CV, at least prior to once the Pirates franchise had really gotten going, true he was a very mainstream, studio-friendly director, but he was also kinda jumping all over the mat for the different types and genre movies he was making.
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When the white men came and said get off your land, most of them left, heading west long before the Trail of Tears. They accepted the children of half breeds. They westernized, accepting white culture. Many accepted religious conversion. Basically, they did a lot, intentionally or not, to keep from getting massacred as a genetic pool, surviving to inter-breed. I got some Cherokee ancestry myself. I inherited some pretty cool old pics of a scraggly bearded, wiry white guy with his Cherokee wife... dark skin, wary eyed, and jet black hair in a gingham dress. She looks too young for him :) Apparently, they lived in a sod house out on the prairie somewhere. The ancestry seemed kinda cool, but I could never get over the idea that I was descended from those that decided to roll over for the man... Damn the 1800s Man!
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Yeah...I'm Cherokee Jack!
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I fucking HATE that phrase almost as much as "This ends now!"... the two most lazy hackneyed lines in modern writing.
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Glad they didn't shy away from the radio/TV classic voice... but I'm still sure they will manage to turn him into a Magical Native American Friend. Hopefully they avoid the "Green Hornet" trap of turning the hero into a selfish dunce and making the sidekick a superhuman.
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Dec. 12, 2012, 12:43 a.m. CST
My mom was full Seneca. Dad is of Cornish ancestry.
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
I look really pale when I haven't had any sun all winter. You can't always immediately tell someone's ethnicity.
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So full of revisionism that it doesn't even resemble the original in any way. I think I'll be passing on this one.
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I think this looks good and am planning on seeing it (depending on how its reviewed). I like the idea that it looks like it will be set in the fantasy-pulp genre like PotC, rather than hard-western (e.g., 3:60 to Uma). I enjoyed all of Verbinski PotC films and hope this will have the same sense of humor and some epic set pieces.
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He has Tonto! He isn't "Lone" at all.
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...but these boneheads fucked it up by incorporating a modern rock/metal riffing soundtrack. When will you dick heads ever learn that when you're makjng a film set in an earlier time period, you use an ORCHESTRAL SOUNDTRACK!! Classical music is TIMELESS! It can be used in a film about Cavemen, it can be used in a Science Fiction film set in the year 4084. Hollywood, you are a bunch of fuck wits!
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Dec. 12, 2012, 2:51 a.m. CST
I hate to be the broken record of the talkback but...200 odd million spent and this is the best you can come up with? Fuuuuuuuucking Hell.
by Sean
The Lone Ranger...Battleship, with dirt.
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But dear God, Django Unchained uses the word "nigger" more than any film since Blazing Saddles, it's incredible. And Sam Jackson is a total Uncle Tom, he must have loved playing that, few people have the balls to even create such a character, never mind play him. Tarantino's attempted Australian accent is an abomination, he needs to make appearances like Hitchcock, in silence. 20 minutes shorter, with motivations made a little clearer, and this movie would have been great. Some trailer moments don't exist, others are different takes, it's clear he misses his editor who recently died.
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Dec. 12, 2012, 6:15 a.m. CST
They should have put Chinese eyes on Ben Kinsely for Iron Man 3
by chien_sale
for the Mandarin. Like they should have white actors for the Akira remake too. They should play who the Hell they want, it's make-believe. Remember when we were kids and we would play cowboys and indians, you think nobody were playing indians? Naa we could continue to play and have fun role-playing. It was great playing the indians. Same thing here. Stop whining PC Nazis!
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Why didn't Depp play the Lone Ranger for fucks sake, and why not just cast a real native American in the role of Tonto. My Gaaaad!!
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...are they still in it?
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This reminds me of the Will Smith movie that came out several years ago, 'The Wild Wild West'. The previews looked cool, but the movie sucked balls.
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I bet at some point in the movie they jump into water, the paint comes off and Tonto is revealed as a Kevin Costner Dances with Wolves type.
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It's catchier than The Only Ranger Left?
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seriously, this is a Johny Depp movie. Why is it even named The Lone Ranger?
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...Depp is clearly channeling Nobody from Dead Man. Still his best film, in my opinion. This looks fun, though. It is what it is, a fun blockbuster. Some of you fannies need to lighten up!
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It was awful! At least it had the William Tell Overture and someone at the end of the movie asking "Who was that masked man?" Call me a traditionalist, but I hope this new movie has those two elements.
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Gore Verbinski is a moderately better version of Zack Snyder. Both will have 2013 movies that will eat ass.
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Because I was a huge Lone Ranger fan growing up. I just wish these movies would quit with the scenes like that last one - the wrecking vehicle or whatever heading out of control toward the heroes that stops at the last instant. The crashing space ship in Prometheus doing that at the end was so insanely ridiculous....
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why even make a lone ranger movie? This trailer is clear proof that there was no intention to make this a serious movie? It looks more like a human live action Coyote and Road Runner cartoon. Seriously, kids don't like or get westerns. Adults are more likely to get it but then someone throws in crap visual humor like huge steel rods dropping harmlessly between someon'e legs...? PLEASE!! And, oh, yeah, those comical facial expressions. Not only should native americans be insulted, but so should any human being. Screw Vrbinski and screw Depp
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Nothing about this looks remotely good. Depp's blackbird headress is downright offensive (seriously - someone post a legit link that shows any North American tribe that wore such and I'll paypal you $100) and if I have to see him do that Jack Sparrow teeth-baring sneer of disgust in yet another role, I'll puke blood. TERRIBLE.
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your name Nate?
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...and it hasn't gotten any better. Oh, and I'm 1/4 injun...so you buncha pale-face dicktards can suck a fat one.
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I'm not even going to watch the fucking trailer.
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... of this forum that you can't imagine how we could possibly discuss movies without simply bitching about them. *sigh*
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Dec. 12, 2012, 4:44 p.m. CST
DEPP'S KRAP ACCENT, ARMIE HAMMER'S SHITE ACTING...WAITING FOR CABLE RELEASE.
by The Sage
DEPP'S KRAP ACCENT, ARMIE HAMMER'S SHITE ACTING...WAITING FOR CABLE RELEASE THIS IS NOTHING LIKE THE LONE RANGER STARRING CLAYTON MOORE AND JAY SILVERHEELS AS TONTO... WHICH PIECE OF SHIT DO WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON FIRST? WHEN THIS COMES OUT, HOPEFULLY I'LL BE WATCHING... THE WOLVERINE.
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Dec. 12, 2012, 5:20 p.m. CST
Johnny Depp playing a Native American wearing white face paint (Red-White-Face?)
by lv_426
Still doesn't top the WTF-ness of Roger Sterling popping up in blackface in Mad Men, then proceeding to do a little song and dance. That is the kind of shit you can't un-see... ever.
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It must, must have the William Tell Overture and someone at the end of the movie asking "Who was that masked man?"
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Dec. 13, 2012, 7:15 a.m. CST
It must have the Wililam Tell overture or else the 80 year old farts who grew up on the Ranger will shit and piss in their diapers and watch Matlock instead.
by Bobo_Vision
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