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Damon Lindelof Has Been Called In To Help Save WORLD WAR Z!!

The Kidd here...

There is clearly some big trouble going on with Paramount's adaptation of WORLD WAR Z. 

After hearing of some pretty extensive reshoots getting set to take place for the zombie flick being fronted by Brad Pitt, it looks like they have no idea really what they're even going to be filming. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Damon Lindelof is being brought on to rewrite parts of the script, namely issues with the third act, for a movie that's been wrapped since last year.

Remember when WORLD WAR Z was lined up as a release this holiday season...? Sounds like a distant memory now. 

I was a fan of LOST, so I'll give Lindelof his due, but after his work on PROMETHEUS, I don't have the same type of confidence I once had in Lindelof handling the writing duties on tying up WORLD WAR Z in a sensible fashion. Flashbacks of the LOST finale, anyone?

I am still hoping that WORLD WAR Z can be fixed, but the more rumblings that make their way to me, the more this sounds like a terrible idea from the start adapting a book that they didn't know how to adapt. This is where we find ourselves as a result... with a WORLD WAR Z that could permanently broken, no matter how they try to patch it up along the way. 


-Billy Donnelly

"The Infamous Billy The Kidd"

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  • June 8, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Am I first?

    by donkey_lasher

    I hope not.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Oh fuck here we go again.

    by eric haislar

  • June 8, 2012, 1:07 p.m. CST

    The book is pretty unfilmable as written

    by catlettuce4

  • June 8, 2012, 1:07 p.m. CST


    by georgecauldron

    Did they not watch the storytelling mess that Lost became? How much dick as Lindelof sucked? Why does he get all the awesome gigs?

  • June 8, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST


    by NeonFrisbee


  • June 8, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST

    R.I.P. World War Z. We hardly knew you.

    by Felix

  • June 8, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST

    His work on Prometheus?

    by rahtard

    Really? You are going to get on the guy for what happened with that disaster? This was Ridley Scott's baby for over 30 years, you seriously think Lindelof is the reason that film was bad? Ridley approved everything, he filmed it and Lindelof was writing what Scott told him. Trash him for the other screw-ups, but do not blame him for Prometheus. That was a disaster that falls on the director being completely vain and lazy.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST

    I had to kill Paramount for making a mistake...

    by Dick Jones

    ...and that mistake being making a movie out of the book. Seriously, it screams mini-series.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Also: cable miniseries ala Ken Burns or GTFO

    by NeonFrisbee

  • Yeah, what about Lindelof's howler of dialogue in Prometheus when the chief pilot dude is playing with "Stephen Still's" (????) accordion while flirting with Charlize Theron's character??? All this awkwardness to eventually allow the pilot to triumphantly sing LOVE THE ONE YOU'RE WITH when Theron invites him to bed??? Worst dialogue scene of any major serious studio movie from the past year...

  • June 8, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST

    How are they struggling with this?

    by Andrew Coleman

    No one will care very much if you stray from the book because that is more of a mini-series than a book. So simply have the military fighting zombies... We've never really have seen that on film. Mainly survivors vs. Zombies. Should not be hard to make.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Four posts and already a dick sucking reference

    by syn_flood

    Yep, that's AICN.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST

    And that's not because I'm not a fan of Damon Lindelof.

    by Felix

    I am a fan of his, it's that this many problems with a production almost never works out for the final product. I knew from the moment the first synopsis turned up that the people behind this had no idea what made the story so great.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Lindelof is the M. Night Shyamalan of screenwriting

    by Franck

    And will probably end up like him. Being exposed as a not-so-talented, overhyped, overpaid hack.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Billy - Please proofread your article buddy!

    by EastcoastAvenger

    There are a number of typos on this one!

  • June 8, 2012, 1:15 p.m. CST

    I read the book and enjoyed it - seems filmable to me

    by I_Snake_Plissken

    You could either film it as it’s written (which would be interesting, but not particularly tension filled). Or take a bunch of the key sequences and make it a linear story single-threaded through a character. Focusing on one character, you wouldn’t be jumping from the bottom of the sea to a Chinese nuclear submarine as the book does, but it’s still workable. I figure the big showdown in New York is one of the set pieces, so you could imbed somebody as a war reporter, the siege of the castle in England could be another… basically it’ll never be World War Z, it will just be a large scale zombie movie, which could still be entertaining. There are a bunch of interesting concepts in the book about fighting against zombies that could make for some fun film sequences. I don’t have high expectations, the book doesn’t really lend itself to them.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST


    by JakeKaufman

    Until any of you get a job that doesn't include being a "movie critic" quit bitching. The guy isn't a terrible writer, and there have been a lot of bad movies this year. Stop jumping the bandwagon in hating on this guy.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST


    by JAMF


  • June 8, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST

    The writing on LOST was terrible!

    by JIm Tshirt

    I mean seriously, Lost was a contrived, senseless mess that made the "backwards revelations" of the Star Wars prequels look intelligent by comparison. Prometheus was definitely rough around the edges, but it at least had its share of provocative ideas. I'm not sure how much input Lindelof really had on Prometheus, but I'd wager he was responsible for the film's shortcomings.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST


    by Finn

    I give him credit. He's a geek with some great ideas. Even on Lost, I think he and his writing team were brilliant. It's in the finer details of fleshing out the ideas where he falls into a sand pit. He's constantly scratching without following through. One idea leads to three more, and before you know it, you have a barrel of bi ideas without any end in sight. If Paramount is lookin for creative ideas, than they're making a good choice. They'll make an even better choice if they pair him with a competent writer who is better with story structure. But Lindelof, in his own right, is brilliant.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Nooooooooooo! No more Lindof. PROMETHEUS was enough. Go back to TV.


  • June 8, 2012, 1:24 p.m. CST

    "The book is pretty unfilmable as written"

    by ravenloff

    Nonsense. It simply requires someone not wanting to make a zombie flick and merely attach the name "World War Z" to it. WWZ has become the gold standard for zombie fiction as far as books go. It would be a shame for them to really fuck up the movie. Dune has had two tries and another in the works. Maybe it will take a couple of tries with WWZ for them to get it right. It always struck me as a mini-series anyway.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Remember, Jon Spaihts wowed Ridley with his concept and script

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Lindelof just came in to polish the turd.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Then again, the banished Spaihts from the press junket

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    So maybe it is all Lindelof's fault

  • June 8, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST

    it still can be saved

    by Ripper99

    Remember the big mess Xmen first class was at, rewrites, switching directors, filming and rewriting at the same time...and it turned out very well. they just have to focus on a strong narrative...screenwriting isn't brain surgery...

  • June 8, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Lindienhoff did change Ridleys mind.

    by eric haislar Read the part about writing the script. Granted this is from wiki but there are sources.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST

    From wiki

    by eric haislar

    June 2010, Scott stated that the script was complete and ready for filming.[60] However, Scott instead contacted Lindelof and requested that he review Spaihts' script.[74] Within the hour, a messenger delivered the script to Lindelof and informed the writer that he would be waiting outside to take it back as soon as Lindelof had finished reading it.[75] Unaware of what the producers liked about the existing script, Lindelof informed Scott and the producers that he found the general concept appealing, but that the story relied too heavily on elements of the Alien films, such as the general concept of the Alien creatures life-cycle. As a direct prequel to Alien, it was focused on leading into that film's story, and recreating the familiar cues of that series,[74] and Scott was adamant that he avoid repeating previous accomplishments.[76] Lindelof clarified, "If the ending to [Prometheus] is just going to be the room that John Hurt walks into that's full of [alien] eggs [in Alien], there's nothing interesting in that, because we know where it's going to end. Good stories, you don't know where they're going to end."[76] "A true prequel should essentially proceed [sic] the events of the original film, but be about something entirely different, feature different characters, have an entirely different theme, although it takes place in that same world."[68] Lindelof suggested that the other parts of the script were strong enough to survive without the Alien hallmarks, such as the Alien creature which he believed had been "diluted" by the exposure it had received since, and the burden of "all the tropes of that franchise with Facehuggers and Chestbursters".[68][77] He offered that the film could instead run parallel to those films, such that a sequel would be Prometheus 2 and not Alien, and submitted an idea for how such a sequel could work. He met with the producers the following morning, and was hired shortly afterwards in late 2010.[77][39] Under Lindelof, the script began to divert from Spaihts' Alien prequel into a more original creation.[39] Scott and Lindelof worked together five days a week between July and August 2010, trying to piece together exactly what vision Scott was trying to convey and how the script needed to change, including scaling back the Alien symbology and tropes. Beginning in August, Lindelof spent four to five weeks writing his first draft before submitting it mid-September 2010.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST

    finngodo, what is a "geek" anyway?

    by JAMF

    i don't consider myself one but i'm into all the stuff "geeks" apparently are... is it some self esteem issue these guys have or something? they need to label themselves in some way so they think they belong to s super special club? most annoying cunts on earth.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST

    ZERO interest now if this guy is supposed to save the day.

    by Thad Pittman

    "Lost" defines lazy writing and thin characterization. I know they have to do something now, but they should go after a real problem solver.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST


    by durhay

    New York Post headline for its review

  • June 8, 2012, 1:36 p.m. CST

    One shitstorm of hate coming on this talkback

    by I am_NOTREAL

    Considering that the Prometheus, er, detractors feel that Lindelof now has two big fat strikes against him...

  • June 8, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST

    He just wrote the single worst Batman story I've ever read.

    by Circean7

    This douchenoodle wrote the first issue of the new Legends of the Dark Knight series & it was bunch of arrogant "I'm from Hollywood & I'm going to show you nerds the TRUE Batman." hogwash. I didn't watch Lost but all my friends who did were pretty damn tepid about the finale, so yeah this guy is quickly becoming the next Akiva Goldsmith in my book.

  • June 8, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST

    The book was not unfilmmable

    by slappy magoo

    You just can't make it into a movie. From the sounds of it, it's now a "military vs. zombies" tale that could've been named anything else. The World War Z I would've liked to have seen would be a satire of Ken Burns' documentaries. With a healthy share of staged zombie-chomping staged to be found footage or news footage, tell the tale of the rising and the putting-down of the dead through the memories of the people who lived through it, have celebrities narrating the stories of the people who were able to tell their story in print but are no longer around to voice it, using shots of handwritten notes and emails to give it an air of authenticity. Put that on PBS so they can prove they have a sense of humor about themselves and I would've thrown them a c-note and not asked for a tote bag in return. But no, it had to be a big budget movie that would be nothing like the book but maintain the book's title, knowing geeks will see it if only to rant that it's nothing like the book but no big whoop your money's still spent. A dissatisfied customer is still a customer in movieland, and Hollywood "talent" only becomes poison if people stop coming to see their work in the first place.

  • So, yay, if the "The Kidd" hates Prometheus there's a good chance I'll dig it because The Kidd is awful! Horray!

  • June 8, 2012, 1:56 p.m. CST


    by Scorchy

    This movie is going to be horrifically bad. Such a great book, too.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST


    by Rob

    EVER SINCE THEY DECIDED TO MAKE IT "BRAD PITT SAVES THE WORLD HIMSELF" I KNEW IT WAS GONNA SUCK. Thank you assholes, they turned a guaranteed hit into shit.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Thanks erichaislar, that's frightening in retrospect

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    I remember reading about how much Spaights impressed Scott and the script was his (Lost boy just brought in to clean it up). But the Wiki fits what we're seeing more.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:09 p.m. CST

    circean7 i liked that batman story surprisingly

    by JAMF

    but yeah it was jarring at first thinking "there's no way bruce is this arrogant and smarmy i don't care how new he is to this" the story itself felt like a rip-off of the alfred segment in "whatever happened to the caped crusader" as well, i dunno maybe i'm looking at it wrong... i thought i'd hate it based on who wrote it though.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Lost was fine, people are like sheep

    by Jack

    Once they see someone crapping on the show, they pile on. What was so terrible besides a few things here or there? Yes, the Dharma back-in-time deal in season 5 looks somewhat useless in hindsight, but it hardly ruined the series.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST

    well, shit

    by ScaryJim

    The book just lends itself perfectly to not being a typical zombie flick, arguably better as a one off series with one of the individuals stories per ep- perfect, I cannot think of a better more fulfilling almost perfectly screenplayed series- If HBO did it it would kick The Boring Deads ass in terms of narrative and flat out not having to watch a bunch of whiny unsympathetic emo twats. The problem with rewrites is they can obviously go either way. Original ideas could now be on the cutting block- that said the fact Bradley Pitts is being written as some kind of main character screams fuckup. Jesus if they were actually worried about budget they could almost make it as a fake documentary with alot of *cough* hand held 'collected' footage and also 'dramatically reconstructed scenes' all presented as an actual documentary version of the oral history thus adding another meta commentary on zombie depiction. Fuck Damon. Hack.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Why not - it's already fucked to begin with

    by atlatl

  • June 8, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST

    empirez - A Response (YES, more Lost finale discussion)

    by Sniffingchimp

    People are being sheep-like because they're flocking to the right conclusion - the Lost finale/6 season was shit. It answered nothing. It was lazy writing, a fact all the more cemented when the writer's (including, and mostly Lindelof) came out gunning post criticism about how it was "never about the mysteries." Bullshit. They just wrote themselves into a corner. One or two loose ends in a story are great, they encourage discussion and interpretation. But Lost? That was the whole game. They took the piss. I loved that show, loved it, but as the last season progressed (and culminating with the finale) it went entirely off the rails. Season 5 was a warning.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:29 p.m. CST

    They're getting *Lindelof* to fix the *ending*?

    by Tim Keating

    BWA-HA HA HA! Do they not realize that the ending of Lost is the one thing even the die-hard fans do not love? WTF?

  • June 8, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Only Hollywood

    by MrDark

    Could fuck up a script that is practically written for them already. Do they even remember that the movie is already a book? From what it sounds like it is turning out to be I doubt it, but someone should remind them that it is.

  • You write about six sentences in an article. How difficult is it to proof read? p.s. there is a difference between snarky and critical. My flashbacks of the Lost finale are great memories, thank you very much.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Lindelof is great, the problem is still the PG-13 thing

    by majorax

  • June 8, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST

    i love you're comments!

    by sean

    It would seem like the joke would get old, but it doesnt. Your persistence to never break form makes me bust out laughing everytime i see it. I just signed up for talkback to let you know this. Gree up quoting robocop. Big fan of robocop and you!

  • June 8, 2012, 2:43 p.m. CST

    People say they did not like how Lost ended

    by SuperTrekkie

    They do not say how they would have ended it.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST

    supertrekkie, with this:

    by JAMF

    Juliet survives the fall, and - in the very last scene of season 5 - uses the last of her strength to strike the nuclear device Jack threw in earlier until it explodes. L O S T most people would have been happier with that than the bs in season 6 and the god awful "emotional" ending. seriously.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST


    by Sniffingchimp

    Agreed. I would have shouted at the television but it would have been more gracefully frustrating than the trainwreck of Season 6.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST

    I'm not a the typical AICN naysaying bitchboy...

    by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder

    But ever since the first reports of the MJS screenplay being ditched - After they spent months raving about how great it was - I knew this adaptation was doomed. Like "Watchmen", this ALWAYS should've been an HBO series. I think that Paramount panicked when "The Walking Dead" became a left-field hit and were afraid that there wouldn't be room for two gore-filled zombie series on TV, so they pussed out and chose to turn "WWZ" into a PG "event" movie instead.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST

    you all need to know what script fixers are

    by animas

    they are hired by studios NOT because they have talent or ability to write, but because they are paid to write exactly what the studio tells them to write. Guys like Orci and Lindelof are not in demand at all. They are errand boys with no souls, no talent and most of all no creativity.

  • June 8, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST

    so this movie is gonna be apart of a trilogy?

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    because i have no faith watching a lindelof movie that will actually have a satisfying ending instead of setting up more questions for future installments get this guy back to TV because cleary he cant write for a 90minute format

  • June 8, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Gee, the producers of this things are making some wise decisions, aren't they?

    by No Respectable Gentleman

    1. Let's get Marc 'Quantum of Solace' Foster to direct it. 2. Let's not consult the book's author, because what the hell does he know? 3. Let's get Lindelhof, fresh from the mess than is PROMETHEUS (even apologists of the movie admit the script isn't its stong point) to do some rewrites.

  • June 8, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST

    "you dont like how lost ended? make a better ending!"

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    that is sooo fucking stupid. we are not the lost writers. we are the viewers. you dont tell someone who is a fan of the lakers, "if you think kobe didnt do good, join the lakers" also if fans somehow had the chance to write the ending (in i dunno what fucking universe), im sure we would have done a better job because we wouldnt included pointless characters and plots throughout the series which set up the unsatisfying ending to the series now, i enjoyed the lost finale. but with that said, i also find lost is now 100% unwatchable since a lot of the shit that happened, doesnt even matter at all (lockes dad, charlie saving claire, sideways flash, etc) in short: if you enjoyed the finale and series, great. just dont say any asinine things like ask us to write fanfics that would do better than the actual finale

  • I mean yeah he'd solve the problem, but I doubt you'd be happy with his methods.

  • June 8, 2012, 3:09 p.m. CST


    by jellypop

    That's funny. He couldn't save a penny.

  • June 8, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Should have made it a faux Ken Burns style documentary

    by jimmy_009

    Sorry to see it floundering as is, but they pretty much botched it from the get-go not choosing the right format.

  • June 8, 2012, 3:13 p.m. CST

    "You don't have a son, Jack."

    by Pat

    "You have a ZOMBIE! RAWR!"

  • June 8, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST

    We're not going to see a Zombie movie that tops DOTD 2004

    by Walterego

    for quite some time apparently. We'll just have to appreciate the Walking Dead comic, which just keeps on being fantastic, and TWD tv show, which has some great scenes mixed with tedious ones.

  • June 8, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST

    i saw Jacks "son" last week...

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    I didnt know whether to say he did horrible as Jacks son or give him my condolences for Awake being cancelled...

  • June 8, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    The four names representing fanwank shit in Hollywood today. Avoid at all costs.

  • June 8, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Mission Impossible 5: Fire a Hollywood Jew Writer

    by Lostboytejas

    This asshole has 9 lives, I'm telling ya! He fucking sucks balls yet keeps getting work. And dont get antsy about the Jew bit, I'm a heeb myself!

  • June 8, 2012, 3:44 p.m. CST

    also, thanks for fucking up WWZ!

    by Lostboytejas

    Awesome book, had major potential, potential fucking wasted.

  • June 8, 2012, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Yeah because this guy is really good with third acts...

    by quadrupletree

    PFFFF. Are you kidding me?? That's the one thing him and all the current "hot" writers in Hollywood suck at! I love when he took offense when the guy from Game of Thrones said he hoped he didn't "LOST" the ending, like that criticism wasn't deserved. What a bag of dicks.

  • J. Michael Straczynski's original draft. But it was too much like the book they allegedly wanted to adapt in the first place, so they hired Brad Pitt and changed his character from an archivist to a world-traveling zombie hunter and also the zombies run because running zombies are sexy, or whatever. Not surprisingly, the pick-ups that became re-shoots have now become re-writes, and assuming you even trust Lindelof as a writer, this movie's problems probably run much deeper than "third act issues." What a clusterfuck.

  • June 8, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Brooks was happy with JMS' script

    by FrodoFraggins

    Sounds like the studios messing up another property.

  • June 8, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST

    As far as how I'd end Lost

    by FrodoFraggins

    Sine someone complained that the people bitching about the ending never give their answers. How about have the final season without flashbacks, sideways or forwards. Just keep the linear story of the island and end with Jack's death. No need for the afterlife crap.

  • June 8, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Oh for fucks sake

    by NathanGrey

  • June 8, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST

    thanks quadruple for alerting me of grrm vs lost

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    its funny and its true go team song of ice and fire

  • June 8, 2012, 4:21 p.m. CST

    my guess

    by palinode

    Even if Lindelof were a cyborg with the preserved brain of Orson Welles, this film couldn't be saved now.

  • June 8, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST

    yep tiki, your vibe is right

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    however, if you dont have a problem with a movie that is clearly trying to set itself up as a trilogy, then it might be good to you. also you may be more forgiving of the story if thats the case

  • June 8, 2012, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Isnt it just better to release it as it is?

    by Ricardo

    Or do they think they can increase the amount of money this movie can make by spending millions on reshoots?

  • June 8, 2012, 4:41 p.m. CST

    LOST finale

    by maxwell's hammer

    Speaking as someone who DOESN'T come to the AICN Talkbacks just to shit on everything, I was tremendously moved by the finale on first viewing, as well as last month when I rewatched the entire final season on DVD. People are getting "That's not what I wanted to happen!" and "But why is the island magic?!" with "it was poorly executed". If you just let LOST be LOST, then the ending was perfect. And I think Slappy Magoo put it best: to do WWZ justice, you have to find someone who wants to film the story as laid out in the novel, not just another zombie movie. It's not unfilmable, it's just that Hollywood isn't big on originality and so are more likely than not to completely mis the point.

  • June 8, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST

    People who hate on Lost Finale never enjoyed the show

    by Qwerty834

    It cracks me up that people will still trash on the finale when everything was tied up with no questions left. I honestly couldnt think of a better way of ending it. What else do people want to know about the show? **SPOILERS** Jack and Kate kill the man in black, Jack gives his life for the island for the first time he fixes something that doesnt end up broken. Hurley and Ben are now in charge of the island and Walt will be Hurleys successor. Kate, Sawyer, miles, richard, claire, frank all get off the island and return home. And in the flash sideways we find out that because of jacob bringing them to the island they all get to move on to the next life with each other where before the island they would all have died as miserable broken people, maybe not even moving on. As for what is the island? We never get a straight answer what we do know is that none of the characters on the show actually ever knew what the island was all they knew is they had to protect it because of the balance of good and evil. The oldest character shown in the entire series was jacobs mother and she didnt even know. The island is just like the suitcase in Pulp Fiction we never find out whats in it but without it you would never have experienced such a great story.

  • it should have been a Showtime or HBO miniseries in a Ken Burns style documentary with dramatic "reinactments". It's a shame they tried to cram so much content into a two hour PG-13 movie. That was never going to work.

  • June 8, 2012, 4:50 p.m. CST

    How the hell does this guy keep getting work? Beats me!

    by Cervantes

  • June 8, 2012, 4:51 p.m. CST

    How could they not know how to adapt it?

    by thedarklinglord

    Each chapter is pretty much a self-contained story. Each story is being told by something who lived it or witnessed it. You have a fucking reporter traveling about the globe, taking accounts from those survivors or witnesses or informants, with each story flashback being shot as though it were happening right then and there, with occasional moments or narration by the storyteller. You can either simply fade to black between each one, or you can pad the movie with some shots of the chronicler traveling from place to place, looking out at the world and reflecting on how it's all changed, giving additional social commentary on life as it is/was and how it came to be post-incident. No, it's not innovative, but it'd get the fucking job done, and assuming it's done well, the movie would still satisfy fans of the book and likely get better than average box office.

  • June 8, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST

    They're doing reshoots it because it needs more Channing Tatum and 3D.

    by Mr. Pricklepants

    Oh, wait! That was G.I. JOE: RETALIATION, another Paramount release. Boy, Paramount is not having a good year.

  • June 8, 2012, 5 p.m. CST

    what was wrong with Lost season 6...

    by palinode

    <p>Someone honestly asked what was wrong with the final season of Lost. Let's see: [spoilers, by the way]</p> <p>Approximately half of the season (conceptually, at any rate) was given over to a 'flash-sideways' universe that was held out as some kind of key to the mystery of the Island, or at least a storyline that would have a significant impact on the main story. At the bare minimum, the parallel reality timeline would deepen our understanding of the characters and expand the world of Lost.</p> <p>It did none of those things. Not a single one. It just rearranges the characters and makes us wonder what the fuck is going on until we discover that it's some bullshit interfaith Purgatory happening at some point when all of the characters have died. What happens on the Island has nothing - nothing - to do with what happens in alternate Los Angeles. Where the Island is underwater for some reason. Wait: for no reason at all. I bet they didn't even know what they were doing when the wrote the first scripts for season six.</p> <p>The final episode introduces a couple of character pieces that go some way towards redeeming this awful cheap con. Jack reunites with his father, which is nice for him, and Ben's decision to stay behind is a genuine character-driven moment. There are probably some other decent bits that I've forgotten, but the fact remains that the whole thing was an egregiously naked trick to distract us from the fact that Lindelof and Cuse and the rest didn't even have half a season's worth of story left to tell.</p> <p>Meanwhile, the Island turned out to be some metaphysical switching station for Good and Evil or something, and there was Light and Smoke. And the best character on the show is turned into a hollow shell for Evil. And everybody walks around for fucking ever. And then Jack takes a plug out of a hole in cave. Then he puts the plug back in. That makes him die. The end.</p> <p>Granted, there was probably no way that the show could have ended that would have wrapped everything up in a satisfactory way, and often the ideal scenario has to be jettisoned when schedules and budgets are brought to bear. But that was pathetic.</p> <p>Okay then.

  • June 8, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST

    I think what doomed this adaptation...

    by Ribbons the fact that Paramount tried to turn it into a tentpole picture. I understand that an oral history of the zombie apocalypse doesn't exactly scream summer blockbuster, but that's what the story was. If you liked the book, then make THAT, and release it in March or October or something. If not, then go make something else. You can't finesse the story into something that it's not, especially one with as unusual a structure as World War Z. Just because it's got zombies and is set on several continents doesn't mean it needs to be a four-quadrant post-global popcorn flick.

  • June 8, 2012, 5:29 p.m. CST

    I agree with you qwerty834

    by coop

    Everything was wrapped up. The only real mystery left before the finale was the "flash sideways" and at the end we find out that it was what happened to them after they died.

  • June 8, 2012, 5:32 p.m. CST


    by maxwell's hammer

    The flash sideways was never held out as 'the key to the mystery of the island'. You just assumed it was. It still cracks me up that people dismiss the finale as a self-evident failure just because it wasn't what they assumed it was, when LOST made it a pretty prominent feature of its storytell to NEVER be what anyone assumed it was going to be. The flash sideways acts perfectly as a tour back through a lot of the characters and relationships from the previous five seasons, as well as closure for a lot of the characters we lost along the way. Those moments toward the end of the series when various characters begin 'waking up' and realizing where they are are some of the most beautiful of the entire show.

  • June 8, 2012, 5:38 p.m. CST

    All of Abrams gang are good at pitch presentations or

    by kabong


  • June 8, 2012, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Hack. Hackety hack hack hack.

    by JadedCynic

    He's a hack. Can't thread a story line through a planet-sized opening. Has great premises but no clue as to how to resolve them. Why he gets big time gigs is a mystery to me. Must give one hell of a blow job.

  • I can see it now: Star Trek 2:A New Found Faith Premise: Spock witnesses a miraculous event forcing him to choose between a new found Christian faith in God and its exact opposite, science. In the end, the facts are impossible to ignore. The bible is right; science is wrong!

  • June 8, 2012, 5:57 p.m. CST


    by Chris

    If you ignore the side-ways arc the last season isn't that bad. Whenever it flashes sideways, just go get a drink and come back in two minutes. On the second viewing of LOST from beginning to end I found that it was less distracting if you just ignored everything going on in the sideways universe, because essentially it doesn't matter. Honestly, LOST is one of my favorite shows of all time, but nobody gave two fucks about what happened to all these people in the after life. We wanted to know what fucking happened to them while they were alive and we never really get a sense of that. They were called to the island to take part in an age old game in the preservation of the balance of light and dark, good and evil, and we see how that wraps up, only to get told that none of it really mattered because in the after life they all get to go on and be happy... Never mind we don't learn about what happened to Richard or the OTHER survivors. Sure the cast aways are the most important characters, but some peopled liked Richard Alpert and Lapidus. To this day people maintain that if you don't like the ending you're stupid and don't understand LOST. I totally understand LOST. I've watched it three or four times from the beginning on NETFLIX and DVD. I get what they were doing. I just don't like it, along with a lot of other people, because they never addressed the mysteries that kept a lot of us coming back. They ran out of time so they ditched story arcs, short changed characters, and abandoned ideas. ... But I still love LOST.

  • June 8, 2012, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Billy the Fucking Kidd

    by Super Nintendo Chalmers

    So he didn't like Prometheus? Then I bet I'll fucking love it. I haven't posted in years, but this fucking ass hat drove me to talk shit twice today already. Hey Billy, fuck your opinion. It means nothing.

  • June 8, 2012, 6:08 p.m. CST

    he's jewish. dunno why people keep saying he's christian.

    by JAMF

    how the hell does a christian who's bad at writing get work in an industry dominated by jews?

  • June 8, 2012, 6:11 p.m. CST

    First PROMETHEUS, Then Star Trek 2, and NOW THIS?!?!?

    by bs9999

    This dude is not only shit'ing on everything he touches and enjoying it, but has now escalated his bowels to full scale diarrhea with corn.

  • Exhibit A: His ENTIRE Career.

  • Ice cream and cake is the brightest spot in your day isn't it?

  • June 8, 2012, 6:16 p.m. CST


    by maxwell's hammer

    I think its fair if you were disappointed because some of your personal curiosities weren't answered, but in the same way you're uneasy with people who claim the disappointed "didn't get it" (a complaint I try not to fall back on), those of us who did enjoy the show are uneasy when people say "the flash sideways don't matter" or "nobody cared what happened after they died". I felt it was entirely appropriate that LOST's story was the story of how these people's lives were affected by the island, and that once the island was 'done' with them, the story was over. And the flash sideways was a demonstration of how their lives were affected, culminating in that final set of episodes where they come together. Again, I found all of that very compelling. Sorry you didn't take away the same satisfaction a lot of us did.

  • June 8, 2012, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Fuck Abrams gang. He gets a pass but his team sucks dick!

    by Tikidonkeypunch

    Donkey dick.

  • June 8, 2012, 6:18 p.m. CST


    by maxwell's hammer

    Well I'm glad one of us have the wisdom of age. I'll never possibly be able to refute you're clever 'you're a baby' arguement.

  • June 8, 2012, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Jesus Christ, who the fuck keeps letting the Kidd post shit here.

    by Joe Dissolvo

    He has more typos than a middle school english student trying to type a college paper, his sentence structure is horrible, and he just comes off as a complete fucking moron.

  • June 8, 2012, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Jewish. For the last time he's Jewish.

    by catlettuce4

  • June 8, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST

    I NOTICED......


    ...that you wrote 'called in to "SAVE"' jest...right?

  • June 8, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Re Lindelof: I quote Hudson in Aliens...

    by Brian Hopper

    He's coming in. I feel safer already.

  • June 8, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST

    World War Z was doomed the second Brad Pitt got involved..


    World War Z should have been set up as a series of movies. Each of the survivors stories told in the book could have been it's own movie. Most of them anyway. They changed the whole premise of the book when Pitt got involved because he's this big movie star. Paramount has always fucked up franchises and made poor decisions. Sure they get somethings right but they definitely fucked World War Z.

  • June 8, 2012, 7:33 p.m. CST

    The Book Was Garbage

    by Jack Shepherd

    This is really no surprise, seeing as how the book was AMAZINGLY overrated to begin with. Zombieland was far more entertaining.

  • June 8, 2012, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Unfilmable? WTF

    by paul james atwood

    A journalist interviewing people, as they begin to tell their stories cut to the flashback, whats so hard about that? The journalist is the central character give him a few moments between interviews for character development, monologue over the ending. How hard is that?

  • June 8, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST

    As soon as I finished the book when it first came out...

    by Clio

    I wanted it as a film, but I knew that there were so many good but separate stories in it that they could not all fit. If three of the stories get told, done the right way, with the reporter narration setting the scene and setting for the next story, then it should be fine. Oh, yeah, we gotta see the military forming squares, like Wellington at Waterloo, after they got their ass handed to them fighting conventionally. Hope that not a spoiler!!

  • June 8, 2012, 8:44 p.m. CST


    by maxwell's hammer

    Simmer down there, son. WWZ was a very well executed zombie novel, such that it actually managed to transcend a very well-worn genre, but I think 'Best of the 21st Century' is a tad hyperbolic. Maybe more like "Best Genre Novel that high school kids can read then name drop it so they can better fit in with the other nerds".

  • June 8, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Remember DEVIL'S OWN?

    by CherryValance

    Well I lived in New York back then and I remember hearing from people at the time that Brad Pitt and Harrison Ford were constantly in some kind of rewriting duel of their lines. I don't know if any of that was true, but Pitt seems to be in the center of some messes. Didn't he totally fuck up THE FOUNTAIN forcing Aronofsky to totally start over with a less ambitious film? I mean maybe the guy is a jackass. I don't know. I felt the need to put that out there. @tikidonkeypunch I'm not a huge ALIEN fan but I do like most SciFi and BLADE RUNNER was great so I thought there was a decent chance I'd like it. Sorry to say it became unintentionally funny toward the end. Still, give it a shot but if you're low on funds maybe you can wait.

  • Gangs of suicidal insane twenty-somethings will plan "zombie" attacks in public places after ingesting whatever psychosis inducing designer drugs that will be available at that time. It will become a regular fixture on your evening news broadcast or internet news source. Perhaps the drug in question will get the street name "Zombie". The line between reality and media was erased a long time ago. Anyone under the age of 35 should be considered a potential murdering lunatic with no sense of empathy left in them.

  • June 8, 2012, 9:16 p.m. CST


    by CherryValance

    Dude. I laughed really hard at that. Thanks. :)

  • June 8, 2012, 10 p.m. CST

    I read one draft of the script

    by bob_uzumaki

    Dunno which one. But it was by J Michael Stracziwhatshisname and it was quite good. Not Oscar-worthy good, but nearly there, and it was quite close to the source material even. Wonder why they didn't just go along with that one.

  • June 8, 2012, 10:01 p.m. CST


    by Chris

    Would you like a tip? When you're insulting someone for using poor English you should also make sure you are not making typos, along with incorrectly spelling the name Lazarus.

  • June 8, 2012, 10:50 p.m. CST


    by Finn

    By geek I mean someone that respects the material to a hardcore degree. I know it can mean many things to others though.

  • June 8, 2012, 10:55 p.m. CST

    Lindelof to the rescue!

    by Titus05

    maybe he can fix Man of Steel, Spider Man and Iron Man 3 while he's at it

  • June 8, 2012, 11:57 p.m. CST

    HEADLINE: Man who ruined Prometheus to "fix" World War Z...

    by Doctor Bumhole

    Fuck you and your mom!

  • June 9, 2012, 12:01 a.m. CST

    Haha bumhole, I thought the SAME fucking thing...

    by Ironhelix

  • June 9, 2012, 12:16 a.m. CST


    by TopHat

    LOST was about how it doesn't matter why we're here; God, science, etc. ...but, the connections we make with each other. That was the whole point of the series: All the Dharma stuff, the whole plot involving "Jacob" and "the man in black", the island itself ...they were there to show it doesn't matter what they are or what they're doing ...the only thing that mattered was how and why the characters related to each other. I'm not some obsessed fan, the finale just made it obvious what the writers and producers were trying to say. So, I can understand why people were/are fustrated that there were not any answers given... ...but, at the same time, its apparent that answers were never meant to be given. To STILL be angry about it, is odd.

  • June 9, 2012, 12:21 a.m. CST

    LOL, Lindelof = M. Night Studabaker

    by Hernando

    Spot on, Prometheus was visually stunning, but the Dialouge was Snooooozerific... Ugh... :\

  • June 9, 2012, 1:06 a.m. CST

    It started with Enterprise-C

    by krylite

    and the new generation of writers who write how things don't matter in the end. Vulcan being imploded. The Narada has no disruptors. The comic book had Narada taming V'Ger easily whoopedoo. The one bag trick of the last 30 years since the BTTF films. Prometheus should have had J. Michael Stracynski instead of Lindelof. At least he has experience creating his own sci-fi arc.

  • He's done all kinds of the spectrum . Even episodes of Murder,she wrote. See Bablyon 5, "Passage to Gethsemne". He understands religious institutions and questions. Babylon 5 wasn't perfect, but the 2nd and 3rd seasons were the best epic sci-fi work seen then.

  • June 9, 2012, 1:24 a.m. CST

    JMS burned out YEARS ago

    by KazamaSmokers

    ... and he's never been able to write passable dialogue.

  • haters are dubious people. they make stuff up. I dont believe some of them actually watch the films or tv shows that seem to hate about. I agree about the finale of lost.

  • June 9, 2012, 2:17 a.m. CST


    by Hank

    Isn't M. Night Shyamalan the M. Night Shyamalan of screenwriting...just sayin'...

  • June 9, 2012, 2:23 a.m. CST

    How fucked is your movie if you think Lindelof can 'fix' it.

    by Fortunesfool

  • June 9, 2012, 5:41 a.m. CST

    sigh... tophat....

    by JAMF

    i had a whole thing written out for you about lost but fuck it... you accept the mediocre shit that's (here's that word the prometheus apologists love to use) SPOONFED to you and we don't. the last season of lost was a joke, the finale incredibly bad. there is no discussion, you're just wrong. now it's happening all over again. you know i think i should become a writer. apparently if you throw in some well used guff about spirituality and faith or whatever then you get a free pass to write shit. it really is that easy.

  • June 9, 2012, 5:46 a.m. CST

    Fuck Lindelof

    by TheApostle

  • And it`s still amazing how it all came down to one episode then after watching 6 seasons, that one end episode made all the others shit for you. Personally I love the ending of the Prisoner. Does it make sense ? No. But that`s kind of the point, it`s another kind of satisfaction that modern TV audiences simply cannot absorb and and so it must be crap. No answers ? must be crap. Life don`t make sense, get over it.

  • June 9, 2012, 6:15 a.m. CST

    i love the prisoner including the ending

    by JAMF

    what is it with you retards comparing the ending of lost to the prisoner or prometheus to 2001 in order to apologise for it being shit??? it's a disgrace to even bring up those others in your defense of prometheus.

  • June 9, 2012, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Sick of fucking zombies

    by positivelySlime

    Goddamn it. I used to love zombie flicks (about 10 years ago) and always wished zombies would make a comeback. Then they did. Bigtime. In movies, video games, and now on television. Now they won't go away. And they suck! So sick of hearing people joke about the "Zombie Apocalypse" like its a new fucking concept. Sadly enough, a lot of younger viewers don't even know that the 2004 Dawn of the Dead is a remake (and a shitty one, at that) of what is perhaps the best zombie film ever made. Zombies went mainstream. And now us older fans are paying for it. Every time I hear the words "zombie apocalypse" it just makes me want to grit my teeth...and shoot the motherfucker in the brain.

  • June 9, 2012, 6:22 a.m. CST

    "Callef in to save world war z.....

    by Tony fucknuts

    "...from having a comprehensible story structure!" Eeehhhyoooo!

  • June 9, 2012, 6:24 a.m. CST

    "Callef in"

    by Tony fucknuts

    Yeah.....nice one, me.

  • June 9, 2012, 6:52 a.m. CST

    it's okay gym

    by JAMF

    nobody noticed.

  • June 9, 2012, 7:06 a.m. CST

    They picked Lindelhof because...

    by johndalf greymane

    He took the mishmash pile of shit that was Lost and came up with SOME kind of ending, which seemed pretty much impossible to anyone else (I think they should pay more attention to the fact he was responsible for that pile of shit in the first place, but Hollywood seems to have selective memory/perception). Looks like they have a similar problem with WWZ. Many of my friends were enthralled with Lost at the time. Season 1 looked like something cool was about to happen, but after catching a few back episodes, I called bullshit a couple eps into season 2. I remembered being pissed off when I heard that the overarching "Mulder and the Aliens" (X-Files) story arch was all made up on the fly and I wasnt going to fall for that crap again. Lost was a long-con not a mystery. Ive said before that Im all about the story, and while "Interpretive Dance" is fine and has its place, dont try and convince me that it all has some deeper secret meaning and we are just scratching the surface. Maybe Lindelhof can pull the filmic WWZ's ass out of the fire, maybe thats his strength... taking a mess and wrapping it up in improbably false connections, WTF, and ribbon, convincing a large percentage of viewers that it all means something.

  • June 9, 2012, 7:47 a.m. CST

    I think it was a mistake to make it a movie instead of a series.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • June 9, 2012, 9:20 a.m. CST


    by UltraTron

  • June 9, 2012, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Lindelof? I'd sooner draft in a 100 monkeys and a pack of crayons!

    by TheTeethgrinder

    LOST was up it's own arse and believed it's own hype - too many others believed the hype too. PROMEANINGLESS - was way below par, I could have written that better and I am not a professional writer. Hate it when people's hype doesn't truly reflect their 'achievements'.

  • June 9, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST

    If that wiki entry on Lindelof/Prometheus is correct...

    by Logan_1973

    Then the guy is an idiot. He seriously doesn't think that the room full of eggs Kane finds isn't interesting? Christ we've been waiting 30 years for the answer to that room. With that said, and back on topic...I think WWZ is fucked.

  • Thats 2 of their biggest projectintended for this year, now pushed to 2013 for reshoots, not looking good for them.

  • June 9, 2012, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Anything, and I mean anything...

    by Marshal_Lannes

    ...less than at least a 10 episode version of WWZ on HBO was ALWAYS going to suck....and most fans of the book know this.

  • June 9, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST

    You can't have emotion and logic

    by INWOsuxRED

    You cannot have a show about characters AND a logical ending. If a show is "about the characters", then it cannot be about anything else. Resolutions can be emotional, but cannot be logical. I feel this is a fact, therefor it is.

  • June 9, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST


    by INWOsuxRED

    That entry is horrific in the disregard for quality stories over a nonsensical formula for writing prequels. If that is the actual thought process going into his writing, it explains the amount of dissatisfied customers.

  • June 9, 2012, 2 p.m. CST

    The book DID kinda suck...

    by KazamaSmokers

    some really awful cliches in there.

  • June 9, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Trek09, Prometheus and now this????

    by gboybama

    If the first two are any example, the characters will be paper thin, motivations will not make sense and the plot will simply be strung together set pieces with no proper reason for existing. It makes me want to puke for all the wasted potential the Abrams team has squandered. I mean, I give them props for a measure of cool and the fun factor is there. But none of it holds up to any intellectual rigor.

  • June 9, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Writing 101...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...if you introduce a thread into your story, in whatever format, that thread should serve some purpose. That thread can serve to advance the plot, reveal or develop character, develop theme, even just create atmosphere. Ideally each thread introduced will do several of these things at once. When the story is completed all of the threads introduced should construct the tapestry that is the story. Some of the threads may only contribute tonally or thematically and not all of them need to be tightly tied off, but they should all clearly contribute to the whole. This isn't my opinion. Well, actually, it is my opinion, but it's also the opinion of...well everyone? Forever? Lindelof doesn't know how to do this. He has demonstrated this twice, with both Lost and Prometheus. Both were extravagant productions blessed with big budgets, solid casts and top of the line production values. And both were undone by extremely, even amateurishly poor writing. If you defend Lost by saying 'well it wasn't really ever about that', then the only question that matters, from the perspective of good writing, is...then why was that in there? If you defend Lost by saying 'it was always about the choices the characters made' then the only question that matters is...then why did every choice made by every featured member of the cast lead to the same opportunity to enter happy land through a hall of cheap stained glass and beatific smiles? If you defend Lost by saying 'it was really all about the time we spend together being the only thing that matters' (which, by the way, is the rhetorical equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and shrieking 'I don't care! I like it!) then the only question that matters is...why then are people like Boone and his sister, who shared almost nothing with these people before 'The Island Was Done With Them' accompany these folks into Heaven's Waiting Room, while others, who had shared much more time and experience with them (Mr. Happy for just one of dozens of examples) not? The mass of discarded incident and character in Lost did not contribute to its conclusion. Not even tonally or thematically, because by the end of the series it was made painfully clear that it was not only not about any of the mysteries but that it was not about science versus faith or the choices one makes because whatever a character believed, whatever choices they ultimately made, they were all on the standby list for Heavenly Airways and everything that happened to them, all their struggles, triumphs and failures, were just the show playing on the television set in the airport lounge while they waited for a plane big enough to seat them all. It's not just bad writing. It's the definition of bad writing. And as for Prometheus, where the character arc of the third lead was to have her generic actions leading to a pointless 'reveal' of her relationship to another character right before having her squashed like a bug beneath an intergalactic Goodyear tire? Well... You know, there's nothing wrong with liking something that isn't so good. I like more bad stuff than anyone I know, though the bad stuff that I like is usually of the variety where given the resources and pedigree of the project I was surprised by what they tried. There's a lot to admire in both Lost and Prometheus. Both were beautiful to watch, both had some really good performances, both had a scattering of intriguing ideas. But both were ultimately betrayed by poor writing. They just were.

  • June 9, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST


    by Arcadian Del Sol

  • June 9, 2012, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Not another fucking zombie movie... Shoot ME in the head!

    by Gary Makin

  • June 9, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Is there only one writer left in Hollywood?

    by Ray Gamma

    I mean, seriously, what the living fuck?

  • June 9, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    You misspelled "ruin"

    by Vision

    Damon "couldn't write a script of his life depended on it" Lindelof is not someone you call to save things ;>)

  • June 9, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST

    If I didn't know any better...

    by Knuckleduster

    ... I'd swear that AICN was trying to derail anticipation for this film. Nothing but badmouthing this movie from the moment they started reporting on it. I still have faith in Marc Foster (The Kite Runner, Stranger Than Fiction, Monster's Ball) and definitely Brad Pitt.

  • June 9, 2012, 4:01 p.m. CST

    I Had a Feeling Ridley would go Blameless

    by Lesbianna_Winterlude

    At least with the pedophile/trekkie crowd. Nevertheless, it's time for the senile old bint to retire.

  • June 9, 2012, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Fuck you tophat

    by FluffyUnbound

    How's this for a deal? If the people who make science fiction shows and/or shows with a 'mystery' or 'puzzle' component of any kind to them will put a disclaimer on their shows (it should run for at least the length of the FBI notice about copyright infringement, IMO) saying, 'Look, we're just fucking around here, we're trying to tell a story about characters, and we have no intention of actually making any of this make any sense' than on the basis of that disclaimer I'll stop giving them shit. Until they do that, they're charlatans. Frauds. Con men. No better than two-bit sideshow hustlers. LOST was sold to the audience as a mystery. Maybe as you watched the show, you got attached to the characters, but it was absolutely, positively, sold to the audience as a mystery not once but SEASON AFTER SEASON and that was a fucking lie. The LOST production staff were the Bernie Madoffs of entertainment.

  • June 9, 2012, 4:51 p.m. CST


    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...doesn't matter if the first mate is on watch when the ship hits an iceberg, the captain's responsible. Unless something went on behind the scenes we don't know about, something that took final authority out of Scott's hands, Prometheus is certainly his responsibility. Which doesn't change the fact that given Lindelof's track record a decision to bring him in to 'save' World War Z seems more a decision someone made to save their own job in the face of a certain disaster than an attempt to fix the film. People so rarely get fired for doing the same thing other people have done, even if the thing those people did failed.

  • June 9, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST

    not particularly unfilmable

    by Hipshot

    Brad Pitt as a narrator, traveling the world and getting key people to answer questions, triggering an episodic narrative? What's so odd about that? The question of whether it would be GOOD depends entirely on the writing and acting. Tension? If you're talking to person #1, introduce another person in the episode so that we worry about whether THEY will be killed. I figure you could do five killer episodes linked with good interstitial material. Why the hell not?

  • June 9, 2012, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Hey Hipshot!

    by Red Ned Lynch

    The ghost of Syd Field told them that wouldn't work! You know the protagonist must take an active part in the resolution of the conflict while having a personal epiphany in the last twenty pages of the script. Brad Pitt as a passive narrator? Not in a tent pole, good sir. Really, Hipshot, I'm not as bitter as I sound. I'm really more amused than angry. But how you can still be so optimistic (because if you hung out with Sturgeon you have to be at least as old as me because he died before I was out of school) is a wonder to me. A wonder of the good kind, but still a wonder.

  • June 9, 2012, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Real reason for rewrites

    by Edward Scarito

    Add more TATUM!!1

  • Ridley's movies have always been as good as their plot and dialog as written. Slap a gorgeous-looking movie together like nobody else = yes. Make the story stick with just the cast and visuals = no. This is why Lindelof is getting the heat on PROMETHEUS. To be specific, PROMETHEUS had more than enough moments which smacked of inferior writing and spurious plotting to blame the writer. In fact, every character's dialog felt equally thin; only Fassbender used the artifice to his advantage. Lindelof may be used to television where everything is doled out for free between commercials, and throwing unresolvable bones out the audience to chat about on the sofa has no consequences. That doesn't fly with an event movie, or a return-to-form for an established director. Especially a director who is known around the world for concentrating on the image.

  • June 9, 2012, 10:03 p.m. CST

    As Hooper would start: "This is what happens..."

    by lennon211

    when you have a great piece of literature that no one knows what to really do with in terms of adaptation. They had an incredible story from Max Brooks, but the fact that it was so rich and episodic makes it difficult from the get-go. Then you add the fact that the protagonist is not anyone who really carries the action, but instead relates much of what the others in the book tell him and it leaves little for Pitt. It's unfortunate that the story seems to be stripped down to the bare bones like a carcass left by a zombie horde of Hollywood money-counters. Why this wasn't shopped to HBO or one of the other cable networks is beyond comprehension. It wouldn't have taken much to really make this a hit without the story-butchers taking it apart, it would have been great competition for Walking Dead and it wouldn't have broken the network's bank account like Deadwood. Realistically, fans of the book are the ones who will get screwed by Pitt and company, as it will probably be a long time, if ever, before we see a true version of the novel make it to film. It's yet another time when the novel truly trumps the movie. Very sad, indeed. Unless things look better once it's doctored, this release will continue to get the disdain of a middle finger flying at full mast.

  • June 9, 2012, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Caught Prometheus tonight. Not bad but some shit writing as expected!

    by Lostboytejas

    Beautiful looking movie but the writing kinda sucked. Let me get this right: was this supposed to be mankinds first alien encounter? Because no one acted all that 'WOW' or in awe. Ooh theres aliens and shit in here. Question: didnt Scott have the story planned out before filming started? Before he had to hire Lindelof? It seems like Scott had a basic idea but needed someone to fill in the storyline blanks. Not Scotts best movie but could have been soooooooooo much better. Also, not as shit as some people on here made it sound. Just a missed opportunity, thats all!

  • Ridley pitched this idea, not the story, to FOX's Tom Rothman when they thought the ALIEN franchise was kaput. The script duties went to Jon Spaiths, and his script was re-written by Lindelof.

  • by bragging that they're paying him. <p> Nobody in power in Hollyweird reads; they're too busy sucking.

  • June 9, 2012, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Don't Mind Lindelof. Consider Me Intrigued.

    by Rorschach1

    I enjoyed LOST, followed it most of the seasons although I dropped it for a period along the way. In terms of character development, I see Lindelof offering a lot to an adaptation of a book that sets up multiple characters in unconnected stories. After all, to an extent, LOST followed the same pattern. However, if experience has taught me anything, Lindelof is in a bit of an old dog/new trick scenario. Development is crucial to the world of a film, but it should drive the story and the plot of the film, not detract. We'll see, but from what I've heard, Prometheus hits those same pitfalls as the latter part of LOST. And thus, so might World War Z. I'm rooting for them though, as the book is fantastic.

  • June 9, 2012, 11:59 p.m. CST

    Problem is only partly the script...

    by Zandunga

    ...the bigger problem is the incompetent, middle-of-the-road director. Quantum of Solace, anyone? Such an example of how to screw up Bond after he had been successfully resurrected. Why would he fare any differently here?

  • June 10, 2012, 12:56 a.m. CST

    So basically they needed a shitty ending?

    by chien_sale

  • June 10, 2012, 4:27 a.m. CST

    The J. Michael Strazynski script was pretty good

    by lv_426

    No, not as great as an epic HBO miniseries of WWZ could have been, but still, I liked the script they had even though it had to streamline things. The question is, are they moving farther from the JMS script, or are they rewriting to be closer to the book? If they are going farther from the book than the JMS draft, then I think they might be making a mistake. Or maybe they'll still end up with a good zombie film, but it will suck if it is WWZ in name only. Then unless the film version of WWZ is a big smash, it pretty kills any chance for a cable miniseries version being made.

  • June 10, 2012, 4:32 a.m. CST

    The call for a documentary style WWZ adaptation is spot on

    by lv_426

    That is what I pictured a movie version being as I read the book. Like a documentary/found footage/official report compiled on video, something like Blomkamp's initial Alive in Joburg short film and the opening 20 minutes or so of District 9. Only mixed with some rawer footage taken by news crews under duress and maybe soldiers or something (like how the troops take video in Iraq and post it online). What is also sad and ironic in all this tweaking they are doing, is that in the WWZ book there is one section about a big shot Hollywood director that during the Z war, grabs a camera and starts making documentaries about it all. They could have used this character as a springboard for lots of footage and then had him and his camera crew go along with the main investigator character on his fact finding mission.

  • June 10, 2012, 5:54 a.m. CST


    by Knuckleduster

    Funny how everyone always falls back on Quantum of Solace (a film I liked) when criticizing Forster, and choose to completely ignore all the great films he's made. Kinda like saying Spielberg is a bad director because he made Amistad.

  • June 10, 2012, 7:09 a.m. CST

    How can you save a PG-13 zombie movie?

    by Volllllume3

  • June 10, 2012, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Lindelhof is this decade's Akiva Goldsman

    by jasper Stillwell

    Man, check THAT guy's CV out.

  • June 10, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST

    And this week on Made in Hollywood: Teen Edition -- it's Ultratron!

    by MooseMalloy

    Everyone pay attention to widdle Ultratwon, he's screaming for it.

  • June 10, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST

    M. Night Shyamalan...

    by kele nitoto

    is the M. Night Shyamalan of screenwriting. Lest we forget.

  • June 10, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Making a better Lost would have been easy

    by Fridge

    End it at season 4 and keep pretty much the exact same finale. We all knew where the series was going by season 3 (ie: everyone's pretty much dead and the island is purgatory) even if the writers seemingly did not. Then we wouldn't have had to sit through two shit seasons that add nothing to the narrative and were the equivalent of beating a dead horse and raping the corpse.

  • June 10, 2012, 7:09 p.m. CST

    How can you save a PG-13 zombie movie? ZOMBIE POLAR BEARS!!!

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    The only thing that can same humanity, the natural predator of human zombies.

  • June 10, 2012, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Some of you are just mad because

    by gotilk

    Ultratron is right, in spite of doing that thing where the whole message is in the topic. Which.He.Should.Stop.Now.

  • June 10, 2012, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Prometheus was actually pretty great.

    by Rob Jenson

    Getting tired of being the only one that sees it, but I'll keep sounding the call anyway. And LOST is just about the best TV show ever made, whether you like the ending or not.

  • June 11, 2012, 4:39 a.m. CST

    Another Movie Get's Lindeloffed

    by Martin Griffin

    Seriously how this douche gets work is beyond me. I imaging an initial script meeting with Lindelof goes something like this; Exec: So, Damon, what are your thoughts on the script? Can you give us a few ideas about how you'd add to this? Lindeof: Oh for sure. See, my problem is this; you have an actual ending, that resolves the story in a satisfying way and makes perfect sense within the context of the preceding 2 hours worth of movie? Exec: That's your 'problem' Lindelof: Yeah, i mean why not throw in some cheap literary references to books people haven't read, throw in some over egged symbolism and relgious shit - blend it all up in to a kind of puzzle. Then at the end make sure nothing is resolved. Exec: Get the fuck out of my office. Lindelof: Yeah but i made LOST. The most overrated, over accepted, Twin Peaks ripping off piece of shit on TV ever. And people loved it. I sold loads of merchandise and I never even knew what I was doing with the story. Dude, all of us were just blazing cocaine and getting shit faced drunk on Hawaii for 5 years and nobody cared because they thought we were trying to make something with an ending! Exec: ok... you're hired. Go fuck up another movie.

  • June 11, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Don't let Lindelhack near another movie!

    by Laserhead

    Christ-- this guy's the second coming of Akiva Goldsman.

  • June 11, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST


    by Red Ned Lynch

  • June 11, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Oops...Akiva Goldsman...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...currently clutches in his chubby fingers the film version of one of my favorite fantasy novels, A Winter's Tale. Please think only good thoughts about him.

  • June 11, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Lindelof not worth it ?

    by klebart

    Sometimes it's not worth seeing a movie because a director is attached to it (M. Bay), but now I'm starting to feel that sometimes it's not worth seeing a movie if a writer is attached to it... Maybe I'll pass on this one.

  • June 11, 2012, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Damon Lindelof is involved! I am so there!

    by kbarber29

  • June 11, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Akiva Goldsman did some of Fringe. I like Fringe.

    by kbarber29

  • June 11, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Enough Lindelof hate.

    by Rob Jenson

    Whatever he did for PROMETHEUS, it worked.

  • Theres 1 way to do it right, by being authentic to the source. There a thousand ways to half ass it, just steal any situation from any of the anecdotes told in any of the numerous stories the book has. Or even forego authenticity all together and just set it in the world, THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE. Does Hollywood have it's head so for up it's Ass that it cant even do a half assed adaptation of a story that writes itself?

  • June 12, 2012, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Lindelof's writing is pure shit.

    by SunTzu77

    Anyone from the following list would have been tremendously better at doing the re-writes... Will Beall George Nolfi Robert Kamen Joe Penhall Alex Garland Jonathan Nolan J.C. Chandor David Goyer

  • June 14, 2012, 6:21 p.m. CST

    The book was not garbage...

    by ViktorBC

    If you think so, than you didn't read it! It was New York Times best seller. Brooks deserved a Pulitzer for that book. It was more than just a zombie book and that is why it deserves better that it is apparently getting from these producers. Zombieland was very entertaining, but WWZ was better.