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WORLD WAR Z Falls Victim To The Reshoot Plague!!
The Kidd here...
Reshoots can be a pretty common occurrence for films - picking up some shots here and there, reworking a couple scenes that didn't come together originally, adding in new scenes that flesh out the story or help other things make more sense. It happens, and it's just a part of the process. Maybe a few days or a couple of weeks get tacked onto the schedule after the fact, but seven weeks... for a film that wrapped last year... and was originally targeted for release over this holiday season...? That's what is plaguing WORLD WAR Z these days.
According to the Daily Mail, seven weeks of reshoots have been called for in Budapest... you could actually shoot another entire movie in that time span. As far as the nature of the additional filming, that remains a mystery for now, but it's pretty clear there is a lot of unhappiness going on at the moment with what WORLD WAR Z looks like.
I've been hearing for quite some time that the WORLD WAR Z we see on the screen will only vaguely resemble Max Brooks' book, and perhaps this is their chance to correct some of that. After all, changing what made the book so popular in the first place really seemed to defeat the purpose of making this zombie epic. You can make your run of the mill zombie flick without having to use this particular title. Therefore, with any luck, Marc Forster and Brad Pitt are going back in to make this more of that oral history we'd like to see told in a WORLD WAR Z film.
WORLD WAR Z is slated for a June 21, 2013 release. Hopefully, they'll figure it out by then.
-Billy Donnelly
"The Infamous Billy The Kidd"
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Always wanted to do that.
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June 4, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST
Fail. I mean Bradd Pitt and Zombies have to be 2 of the most lamest things in the media right now. Maybe in 1996, but nowadays? Grow some originality.
by scatnam666
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June 4, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST
Foster probably hasn't shot any useable footage, based on the debacle that was Quantum of Solace.
by Fortunesfool
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I've heard this is planned as a trilogy - are we just getting the early days? Also - why does the imdb site list the movie tagline as "Remember Philly!"? Is that replacing the big Battle of Yonkers?
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About a 5% chance this thing will be as good as it should be.
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What is up with that?
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June 4, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST
some help guys. would anyone who's read it tell me what the book's pitch is? what makes it unique? and some plot synopsis maybe
by eloy
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June 4, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST
This site needs editors in a bad way ... You don't "flush" out characters, you "flesh" them out.
by Scott Macumber
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Jesus, just make the movie out from the book FFS! The material and narrative is already there ... No need to tinker with it ... Fucking Hollywood execs ... !
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June 4, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST
Book is great...movie sounds doomed...should have always been a series (mini) IMO. Oh well I always have the book to go back to.
by kenchun24
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Or maybe I need an editor ... to better match the article I should have said "story" and not "character"
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Turns out Romero was wrong.
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June 4, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST
They probably can't figure out how to make a PG-13 zombie movie
by Fridge
Idiots.
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we'll see it during the end credits
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What makes this book different? It's written after the war with zombies is over. It's a report (I think to the UN) that starts with zombie zero and then gives vignettes of how people around the world survived. So the scale and the wide range of stories versus the usual one rag-tag group is what makes it different. Think Black Hawk Down versus Saving Private Ryan.
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You know, they should probably flush this whole thing. However what YOU meant to say is, "new scenes that FLESH out the story. And what's with the extra "d" in Kidd? Big Jason Kidd fan?
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June 4, 2012, 11:08 a.m. CST
This is what happens when you hire the director of Quantum of Solace
by kwisatzhaderach
I mean, who sat down and watched Quantum of Solace and thought: "Hey, let's hire this guy!"
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June 4, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST
'We wanted to add 3D! Imagine them comin' at ya! RAAAARR!!!!'
by impossibledreamers
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June 4, 2012, 11:16 a.m. CST
They fucked the concept, they fucked the script, and now they are fucking the movie.
by V'Shael
At some point, someone is going to release this abortion to DVD, bypassing cinemas entirely. And then the people who have successfully gang raped the concept, script, and movie will go Well, I guess the public just wasn't interested in this movie, but it's not OUR fault.
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June 4, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST
They fucked the concept, they fucked the script, and now they are fucking the movie.
by V'Shael
At some point, someone is going to release this abortion to DVD, bypassing cinemas entirely. And then the people who have successfully gang raped the concept, script, and movie will go Well, I guess the public just wasn't interested in this movie, but it's not OUR fault.
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This doesn't surprise me at all. I was pissed at how bad QOS was after an amazing CASINO ROYALE. Hopefully, SKYFALL redeems the Daniel Craig series.
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June 4, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST
Actual article says they're shooting in Budapest, not Istanbul.
by Buck_Futt
There is, um, a bit of a difference between the two...
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June 4, 2012, 11:37 a.m. CST
I wonder what Barry Sonnenfeld would think of these reshoots.
by JRcanReid
"It's really not that big of deal, Kidd. What's your fucking problem, pal."
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One day, after the inevitable zombie apocalypse overwhelms the human race, one of the shambling dead will accidentally press a button on a remote control and a DVD of this movie will start playing. And it will act as the secret weapon that will kill off all the undead scum once and for all. No more zombie outbreaks for you, Mr. Stinkypants.
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They saw the amazing opera sequence and several moments from the otherwise well-filmed finale of 'Quantum of Solace' and realised that this was a guy who was handed a simply ridiculous editing schedule, was being leaned on by the Broccolis in ways that defied logic and had to negotiate a writer's strike and having to concoct a patch-up script with the likes of Daniel 'just point me in the right direction and I'll give you the goods' Craig. He'll no doubt cop the blame here, despite there being massive intereference from the production end of things again. He should get Ridley Scott's insurance plan put in place.
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I've only enjoyed one Marc Forster movie to date, Finding Neverland, and my enjoyment came from the acting and not the structure/direction of the film. How this clown ever got his hands on the 007 franchise is beyond me. All I know is that the shift in quality from Casino Royale to QoS was akin to going from the third act of Empire to Ewoks in Jedi. Forster likely turned in a bunch of shaky cam bullshit that made little to no sense and is now attempting to "reshoot" an actual fucking movie.
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June 4, 2012, 12:13 p.m. CST
chiwrtr72, thanks a lot. so, Im guessing its not much of a movie-star vehicle as originally written. still, sounds like a refreshing new take
by eloy
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June 4, 2012, 12:16 p.m. CST
Yes, "QOS" was a POS, but I don't know if I'd blame Forster for that mess...
by Zardoz
At least not entirely. The movie was a victim of the writer's strike and they basically started it with no script. Daniel Craig was doing re-writes on it, fer chrissakes! If anything, I blame the studio for going ahead with the movie, despite the fact that they had no script...
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June 4, 2012, 12:19 p.m. CST
Agree that it should have been a mini-series. Preferably a hard- R on HBO.
by v3d
I also like the idea that someone posted a while back that fraiming it as a series of Ken Burns documentary style interviews with flashbacks. The book is just to big to cram into a two hour movie.
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where the black goo turns brad pitt into a zombie.
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Personally I liked STRANGER THAN FICTION and MONSTER'S BALL and was excited at the time of an "indie" director taking on a BOND and expecting a burst of fresh energy. Unfortunately he can't handle the sheer scale of that time of globe-trotting massive production. Script be damned (never been a Bond strength and storyline wasn't QOS's greatest flaw) - he simply didn't know how to shoot the fucking thing. So much of the movie feels like he just handed it to second unit and told them to shoot every angle, and randomly cut the stuff together. The behind the scenes footage is actually more impressive and exciting than what ended up in movie. Major case in point being CRAIG's leap onto a bus in second action sequence. He actually did it for real, and LITTLE LOST FORSTER made it look like it was faked through stupid editing.
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June 4, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST
Jasper Stillwell: "He should get Ridley Scott's insurance plan put in place."
by Monroville
What do you mean by "Ridley Scott insurance plan"? Do you mean the plan signed in blood that allows him to continue making $100 million+ movies that tank at the box office? I seem to be in the minority, as I really like ROBIN HOOD, but hell... when was the last time one of his movies made any money?
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June 4, 2012, 12:30 p.m. CST
monroville: the studios know that when SCOTT does break big, he breaks REALLY fucking big
by melonman
Iconic classic cinema that will keep on selling years down the line. And in terms of basic international and DVD sales his movies don't actually lose - it's just that he hasn't had anything as world-dominating as GLADIATOR recently.
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The first 'big' (wide release with stars) movie I worked on was shot in 38 shooting days, with maybe 1 week tops of "additional photography" (don't dare say reshoots to a director) if I remember correctly. Halloween '07, an AICN classic to be sure... was shot in roughly 45 days with 2-3 weeks of additional photography. That was completely new scenes, replacing old ones completely, etc. About 50% of that was due to Weinstein notes. Pretty nuts that a zombie movie needs 7 weeks of reshoots. Studio didn't like what it saw when photography wrapped, that's for sure.
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Probably just taking one section of the book and turning it into a 100 minute movie, rather than the different locations they shot at last year. The stuff they did last year ends up asbonus material on the BD or added into the Directors 3 hour cut.
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You sir have interesting stories. <br><p> Zombie's Halloween turned out flawed, but I always got the feeling, when compared to his first two films, that he shot H1 while being kept on a leash. <br><p> Can you tell us more about the production?
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yawn Where's 28 Months Later, I'd much rather see that.
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I think the one that'll ensure that Damon Lindelhoff will get saddled with all of the bad press for 'Promtheus' despite being guided by Scott through the entire creative process. Scott's been making solid, well-made but ultimatelymediocre, studio fare for years.
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. . . for a film adaptation of a book you like? I guess maybe Golden Compass is up there . . .
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Well for starters, massive reshoots and delayed release schedules usually mean that a film will suck!
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I forsee two completely different versions being released on blu-ray after this tanks at the box office. They completely screwed this up. All they had to do was make it a series of loosely connected interviews with sequences flashing back to show not tell and it would've been the most amazing zombie movie ever. But no.
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The only stories I remember from back then probably shouldn't be posted online. :) But I can honestly tell you, 5 years after the fact, that Rob Zombie was the most normal person I met in Hollywood. He may have 'weird' hobbies and interests... but as a guy to talk to and hang out with, easily the most normal, unaffected, good dude I met... and I mean from production assistants on up. I used to bust his balls saying that he should have made a Friday the 13th remake instead of Halloween... since he made MM a 6'8 brutal monster with mother issues. And I would wear a shirt that said "WWJD" (with a hockey mask instead of a J)... which I'm pretty sure he stole and used for the crazy fan-boy guy in HW2. Bastard. ;) Ah --- one story I think is safe to share. There's a scene with Lori and her mother/father having breakfast. Lori teases her mom by basically pretending to eat-out a bagel. The mother is flabbergasted, but not angry. I thought it was really cute and showed the family was close but not overly uptight... .just nice people in a real world. Pretty sure the Weinsteins made him cut that scene down or cut it out completely for the theatrical cut. I can't remember how much remained, or if maybe Rob was able to sneak it back into the movie, or if it was added back into the director's cut on BD... but I just remember thinking "of all the crazy shit in this movie, THAT moment either offends or scares the execs?" WTF. My memory on all the different 'versions' is foggy cause there were many, especially after the reshoots, changes right up to the release, and then working on the director's cut BD/DVD version along with the ridiculously long BTS feature for DVD/BD.
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June 4, 2012, 2:01 p.m. CST
@scatnam666 You haven't been keeping track of current events, have you?
by ravenloff
Do a search for "face eating" and "Miami". Maybe follow it up with "cannibalism" and "gay porn". Every time I think the genre is going to fall off a cliff or lose it's legs, something else happens or a new book comes out with a new twist and we're of and running, er, shambling again.
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June 4, 2012, 2:04 p.m. CST
Wait hold on, they wrapped the shooting last year... and it comes out in 2013?
by Ricardo
Post production now takes 2 years?
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June 4, 2012, 2:11 p.m. CST
Quit complaining... IF THEY DON'T DO IT RIGHT, THEY WON'T GET TO DO IT OVER AGAIN!
by Citizen Sane
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We don't know really what they are reshooting and the reasons. At least they are putting up the time and money to reshoot. Most of the time it would go directly out to the theaters in a crappy state or direct to DVD. It may still end up a pile of crap but I like the fact a decision was made to try to improve the movie.
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Sometimes I fee like I'm the only one who wasn't impressed by it in the least.
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And werewolves... and vampires....
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June 4, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST
Marc Forester is a horrible, terrible director. There was no way this movie was ever going to be good.
by locater16
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I love Brad Pitt, but the fact he's the star is one of the big problems. Anyone who's read the book knows there is no star! Except if you count the guy taking all the interviews, but he does nothing but listen to stories and I don't see Brad Pitt doing that for an entire film. I'll probably end up seeing it, out of curiosity. But I'm 99% sure it's going to suck ass.
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June 4, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
After a test screening they realized that watching the news was more interesting.
by Tikidonkeypunch
Expect Channings face to be eaten in 3-D!!!
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How are you tired of werewolves?
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June 4, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST
I'm no Orson Welles myself, but why is it so hard for Hollywood to make great movies these days? Does a great concept get messed up in the pipeline somewhere?
by CodeName
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June 4, 2012, 3:03 p.m. CST
Fo fuck's sake, is it really so hard to get it right the first time?
by DoctorWho?
Especially when you're working with source material that was the impetus for the movie in the first place. It's like "Hey here's a great idea for a movie...now let's DO THE OPPOSITE. Let's change it!" Later..."Gee, why does this movie suck?"<p> Really?? C'mon!
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I love the book a LOT. But my love for the book stems largely from its quality of being nearly unadaptable as a movie. In fact, it's not really a novel at all. It's more of an anthology of short stories, put together by a nameless "editor" with very few personal details given in the book. To make a movie you have to mesh all these survivor accounts together and that just sounds like its going to be a mess. And they'll probably cut the part about the Chinese submarine, which deserves a movie all of its own.<br /> <br /> I expect this film to be as big a disaster as the battle of Yonkers. But I still want it to be good, mind you. I'm just used to disappointment.
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he had nothing to do with this film. The studio wanted nothing to do with him. Some studios these days have the wisdom to have the writer more attached to a film. Not this one.
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is far superior than what this movie will deliver.
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Nowhere in the article does it say PG-13? Trolling fuckheads...
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Perhaps the zombies hired for the film couldn't fit being dead into their schedules until a little later on. Urrgghhhhhh!
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It's already been confirmed as PG-13 through MANY media outlets. http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/19943/financing-needed-for-world-war-z-
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If he could have no input? Must been a bucketload of money, but I dont want to hear him bitching about it.
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And gave up after two chapters. Just couldn't hook me in. My initial reaction is that I hope they take some smart liberties to spice things up, while hopefully staying somewhat original.
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Scott's movies generally make a lot of money worldwide. Robin Hood was a big box office success outside the US ($215 million) and also got good reviews. I actually really liked it. Body of Lies, Kingdom of Heaven and American Gangster also made more than their budget with the overseas box office alone... not huge hits but still made money.
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.....and if these reshoots anything to go by, then by gum, they're gonna get it. So chill.
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June 4, 2012, 5:42 p.m. CST
The aftermath of Battleship's box office disaster.
by DanielnocharismaCraig
With the current Depression America is going through, nobody can afford to fork out $10 time after time for garbage movies like they used to during the dotcom/real estate boom and bust.
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June 4, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST
Killer Instinct is right. There's NO WAY a PG-13 zombie movie can work.
by D.Vader
Because The Walking Dead must be rated R.
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June 4, 2012, 7:14 p.m. CST
Are they adding in that the zombies are the result of using bath salts?
by KoolerThanJesus
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This will hopefully make me want to see this. My guts been saying this will suck from the begining...
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I'm with you. Most of it was entertaining but nothing special, and the rest was so spectacularly awful it over shadowed the good. The love for this book has always baffled me.
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June 4, 2012, 9:33 p.m. CST
thebige -- changing the Battle of Yonkers to the Battle of Philly
by lv_426
The zombies don't want to eat us... they want Philly Cheesteaks!!!!!!!!
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Seeing what HBO has been able to accomplish with George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire, it really drives home the fact that World War Z would be so much more of a zombie milestone had it been done as an HBO miniseries. Just look at Band of Brothers or The Pacific and try to imagine those whittled down into a 2 hour movie. It doesn't work. World War Z will be no different. Bring in different directors every week for a different episode that adapts a chapter from Max Brooks' novel. They could have George Romero do an episode. Maybe Danny Boyle. Neill Marshall of course, seeing what he was capable of with GoT's Blackwater episode. I vote Marshall for director of the Battle of Yonkers episode. One whole fucking balls out episode devoted to the Battle of Yonkers. Not only that, the initial script for World War Z by J. Michael Straczynski was actually pretty good. Even then the producers brought in another writer to supposedly change it to be even less like the Straczynski draft. Ring any bells? Answer: an Alien film written by John Spaihts, then Damon Lindelof being brought in to rewrite it as a pseudo-Alien prequel called Prometheus, incorporating some batshit crazy ideas from Ridley Scott. Now, obviously sometimes screenplays need to be rewritten several times and it can be a benefit to bring in a new writer to add a fresh perspective. The thing is it seems Hollywood doesn't know when to just let the material speak for itself. They have to keep changing and rewriting it until it doesn't work anymore, resulting in the final product often failing in terms of properly representing the source material. So taking into account the rewriting away from the source material, and now these reshoots, it feels as if they blew it with WWZ.
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I imagine that after filming, once the editing process started, the movie was cut in such a way some scenes needed shortening, and thus required a reshoot, and other scenes needed to be added for the movie to flow well. I can understand people getting upset with the attachment of a particular actor or director, or hating what they've heard about the story or concept, or disliking a trailer, or even hating a film after they've actually seen it, but to get upset about reshooting!?!? You need to get a life, seriously.
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June 5, 2012, 7:43 a.m. CST
WARNING! Israel propganda film, BEWARE the Zionist are out
by AllThosePowers
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Zombies can't run, plain and simple.
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June 5, 2012, 8:56 a.m. CST
WORLD WAR BATH SALTS! "FAAAAAAAAACE!" is the new "BRAAAAAIIINS!"
by NeonFrisbee
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