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Chris Evans Talks CAPTAIN AMERICA And THE AVENGERS With Mr. Beaks!

Chris Evans is well aware of what’s looming. For the next decade (or however long it takes to burn off the six-picture deal to which Marvel Studios has signed him), he is Captain America. This is superstardom. And it’s kinda what he didn’t want all along.

Evans knows no one is going to shed a tear for the loss of his anonymity (such as it was), but he’s utterly sincere when he says he’s going to miss it. This is why he didn’t immediately accept the part of Steve Rogers when it was offered to him a little over a year ago: up until then, he was doing just fine skipping between studio ensemble flicks and independent movies; he could hang back, steal scenes when necessary, and look great even when the movies weren’t quite up to snuff. But when you’re the leading man of a big-time superhero movie – which, no pressure, is integral to setting the stage for the biggest superhero movie of all time - there’s nowhere to hide. It’s your movie. If it fails, you've failed. And if it’s a smash, enjoy being tailed by TMZ for the rest of your life.

Again, Evans isn’t looking for a shred of sympathy here; he’s just being honest about his well-publicized decision-making process. In retrospect, now that he’s finishing up his second go-round with Cap (on that thar AVENGERS movie), he’s incredibly happy he opted to play the determined, patriotic, not-exactly-suave Super Soldier. Steve Rogers is something of a departure for Evans. When he was cast, there was some concern that Rogers would be written as slightly more cocksure to match the actor’s natural jocularity. Turns out no one was more committed to preserving the character’s earnest qualities than Evans. He wanted to play Steve Rogers, not Chris Evans.

And he has. CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER is Marvel’s most wholly satisfying pre-AVENGERS movie. Though it’s clearly setting up bits of narrative business for next May’s big superhero hoedown, it stands proudly on its own as a movie about a scrawny kid who wants nothing more than to do his part in World War II. And while there are many terrific performances in the film, it’s Evans, with his "Aw shucks!" innocence, who anchors it. Rogers is a good-natured guy, but when the Nazis or Hydra are on the attack, he’s as lethal as they come.

When I caught up with Evans last weekend during the CAPTAIN AMERICA press junket in Los Angeles, I wanted to discuss his initial reticence to take on the role, and how he hopes to keep things interesting for himself as an actor while he’s fulfilling his six-picture obligation. Also, in light of the friendship that develops between Rogers and Howard Stark (Dominic Cooper) in the film, I was curious as to whether this might color Tony’s dealings with Cap in THE AVENGERS. If you’re looking for hints about Marvel’s massive 2012 tentpole, you might find something worthwhile below.

As always, Evans is a terrific interview: funny, candid and personable. Very little has changed since I met him on the set of CELLULAR eight years ago.

(There aren't any major spoilers below, but if you want to see the film totally clean, you should obviously skip this Q&A until you've seen the movie.)

    

Mr. Beaks: When the casting process begins on any superhero movie, everyone on the Internet has to have an opinion. That’s just what they do. While this public back-and-forth was going on regarding CAPTAIN AMERICA, you were weighing your decision. It sounds like it was a tough one to make - most notably for the commitment. Did you at any point wonder what the fans were thinking?

Chris Evans: I would be lying if I said no. I don’t know. It’s such a slippery slope, you know? You start reading some of those things, and some people are out there just to be malicious, and… I don’t know. It’s tough. I always wonder what it was like twenty years ago when people made films, there was no Internet, you just had to read like the two or three reviews like in The New York Times, and that was it.

[Both Laugh]

Yeah, it’s tricky. To be honest, for the most part I try to stay away just because I think it is a slippery slope, and at the end of the day no good can really come of it. You know the fans exist, and you know that they are the ones you want to make the film for. I don’t think by not reading their posts online you are in any way betraying them. Like I said, it’s a fine line. You start down that path and you could really end up in a dangerous place.

Beaks: You’ve talked about the commitment. How much of this was just a concern that [the six-picture deal] would take you away from other projects that you might want to do, and how much of that was just getting defined as Steve Rogers/Captain America?

Evans: To be honest, neither one of those things were really the driving force. I was never really worried about losing other jobs because… that’s just the way it is. A lot of careers are created that way: someone had the job, then they lost it because of scheduling, and someone else took it. Plus, Marvel is fantastic about affording actors the opportunity to do other projects. I mean, you’ve got Downey doing SHERLOCK HOLMES and DUE DATE, and you know there are plenty of people committed to the Marvel universe who manage to find a career outside of their character.
As far as being defined by the character and potentially pigeonholed, it’s up to me to make some choices that show some contrast and range. The real apprehension for me was… usually you do movies one at a time, and if one of those movies hits? My struggle has always been with loss of anonymity. I like doing regular things. I like going regular places, and I really hate feeling like I can’t do things. I hate that if I want to walk down the Venice Pier or something, I feel like “Maybe I can’t do that. If one person notices, it’ll catch like fire, and this could turn into a photo shoot.” The worry is you do movies one at a time; if one of them hits and finds success… if all of a sudden I realize that I’m struggling with it and I don’t handle it well, I can stop and take a break. The problem with [CAPTAIN AMERICA] is, if it comes out and it’s a success and my private life is affected, I don’t have the opportunity to say, “You know what? I need to go escape for a year. I just want to step back.” “No, we need you back on set in three months.” It was terrifying that I wouldn’t have the control to stop that wave if it happened. Obviously, the flipside is if the movie is terrible, there’s just as much of a ripple effect.

Beaks: And then you are “The Man Who Killed CAPTAIN AMERICA.”

Evans: Yep. Then I’m the guy who is responsible for killing one of the best Marvel characters of all time.

Beaks: Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s not going to happen.

Evans: (Laughs) Let’s knock on some wood.

[We both knock on the nearest wood table.]

Beaks: But I think one of the really smart things that you guys did with this character – which, in talking to the writers, it sounds like you were very involved in this - was to make Rogers not a wisecracking kind of guy. They’ve been doing this with so many superhero characters. They keep trying to capture what Downey did with Tony Stark. But Rogers in this film is a very earnest, very serious guy.

Evans: That’s just it! I was worried when they were pursuing me. I was like “God, they know my shtick. They know what I do. They know I crack wise. I hope they’re not going to do that because every [CAPTAIN AMERICA] comic book I’ve read, he doesn’t make wise-ass remarks. He is not a fucking wise-ass. He’s a leader. He’s a soldier. This is the guy you want taking you into battle.” And they were really good this. They never tried to slip jokes in there. We did find a way to get humor in the film. Tommy [Lee Jones] has some great lines, and Dom Cooper has some great lines; they do a good job of adding humor. But they never really let it bleed into Steve. The one worry was, “How do we make someone who is not cracking wise all day, who is just noble and honorable and good… he could be boring. He could just be a boring guy.” I think there was enough depth to who he was before [the Super-Soldier procedure], and his desire to do good and be good just because it’s the right thing to do… I think that’s interesting. I think it’s complex enough to keep a movie entertaining.

Beaks: Keeping it in the WWII era was such a great idea.

Evans: I hope if the movie does well, and if we do a sequel, I really hope they keep doing little flashbacks. I hope they do like a whole subplot. The WWII is just so cool. I love movies like that. I love period pieces. I love walking on set, and like the whole street, the cars, the signs, the wardrobe… I mean, man, that’s great! It’s so easy to play make believe when all of this shit is happening, and I think it meshes well with Steve’s character. His persona is one that really is a fish out of water in modern day. Modern day is a flash. It’s impersonal. It’s Tony Stark. And Steve comes from a place where its much more wholesome and earnest and human and direct, and I think that the character just fits so perfectly in that time period. I think they would be fools to not try and have it live there in the sequels - if we do them.

Beaks: I’m not fishing for stuff, but… (Evans laughs) I feel like this is the emotional backbone to THE AVENGERS. Howard Stark loves Captain America. He believes in him. That’s something I imagine a young Tony Stark would hear a lot about.

Evans: They do reference that.

Beaks: On one hand, I think the movie stands alone, but I think it’s also setting up THE AVENGERS in a really organic way .

Evans: It’s great. Like I said, he’s a fish out of water; everyone in the world he knows [in the present day] is dead, and he has to go work on a team with [Tony Stark], who is the epitome of modern day, of flash, of style, of this kind of indirect and impersonal sarcastic, selfish behavior. [Steve Rogers] comes from a world where the sacrifice play is the only play, so it’s a great dynamic between the two of them. And you throw Howard Stark in the mix, the fact that this is a guy that Tony has heard about his whole life, and now he’s sitting in front of him. I don’t think Tony is going to respond too kindly to that type of guy.

Beaks: Probably not. He’s got some daddy issues.

Evans: He’s got some daddy issues… (Laughs)

Beaks: You’ve said that you’re going to move back to Boston. I did an interview last week with [Ben Garant and Thomas Lennon], and they likened living in Los Angeles to being on an oil rig. They said it’s where you go to work. They were like, “It’s not really pretty, and the air is bad. It’s just where you come to work.”

Evans: That’s it. There is life somewhere else. This isn’t like life. When I’m [in L.A.], I don’t feel like “Oh, I’m just living my life.” I couldn’t imagine just living here for family and children. I just couldn’t do it, you know? I’ve got great friends here, and I’m forever in debt to everything that’s gone on for me in this town, but, man, it’s tough to unplug here. Do you know what I mean? It feels like just the heartbeat of bullshit to me. It feels like this is where it starts, this is where it pumps, and the rest of the country just gets the runoff. “This is the fucking trend!” It’s just like, “Ugh, God!” It’s cool to jump on board with those things here, but in Boston if you are super trendy they’ll knock you out. It’s like they buck that system. LA just kind of feels like… I don’t know. It fucks with my head.

Beaks: You’ve mentioned that you’d like to direct. What fired your interest in that?

Evans: It’s the love of movies, man. I just fucking love movies. I think I’m a relatively emotional guy. I like going to the movies, and I like crying. Even a good commercial can get me. You get the editing and the music and the performance and the lighting… you get these things together and make this little art piece, and somehow they get you feeling things that I just don’t feel other places in my life. Somehow, film does that, and I love that.
When I read scripts, in my head I know what I want to see; I know what I think would look right and look good. I’ve been on so many film sets where I’ve just sat there and been like, “Goddamn it! I know where he’s putting the camera, and you shouldn’t put the camera there, the camera should be over here… He’s not going to cover it from this angle… Fucking goddamn it, it’s going to ruin this fucking scene!” It’s a beginning, a middle, and an end. If you don’t have a good director, you don’t have a good fucking movie. You just don’t. I’ve seen movies with the best scripts and the best actors on the planet, and they make shitty movies because they’ve got shitty directors. Something about having the responsibility to tie all of these pieces together, and being able to speak coherently to all of your different artistic people and all of these different departments… I just want to do it so badly.

Beaks: Is there a movie you can look to and say, “That’s what made me want to make a movie!”

Evans: I like Ed Zwick movies. I like LAST SAMURAI, you know? I liked LEGENDS OF THE FALL. I like movies that have a sweeping, epic feel. I like things that carry over a long period of time. I think the theme that I like is human connection, like AMERICAN BEAUTY or something - things that can be a really beautiful, grand visual or concept. I think, at its root, I like the relationship between a brother and a sister, or a mother and a father… it’s simple stuff. Cameron Crowe is so good at taking these little moments that happen to people all of the time, and in their own personal lives these moments are huge. But if you try to explain them to someone else, it would mean nothing to them. Cameron can take those little moments, shoot the shit out of it, put some music in it, and that little moment gets you. It just gets you. These are the moments that life is about, and if you can capture it, it’s fucking magic.

CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER opens this Friday, July 22nd.

Faithfully submitted,

Mr. Beaks

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  • July 19, 2011, 1:30 a.m. CST

    first

    by ace mccoy

  • July 19, 2011, 1:33 a.m. CST

    Very cool guy.

    by fanboy71

    He seems really down to Earth and cool. I wish him all the success in the world. I wish Beaks had asked him what it was like working with Joss though. I am really wondering how Joss is going to handle this big of a film, and how he is doing at directing.

  • July 19, 2011, 1:49 a.m. CST

    yeesh

    by HEADGEEK

    I couldn't have more of a hard-on for watching this movie than anything I've been waiting to see this year. That I did some pretty serious walking today, not in some unwieldy device, but with something I own. And that this is happening before C.A. So happy. Don't you love Chris Evans in this interview? Great job Beaks!

  • July 19, 2011, 1:55 a.m. CST

    The Eagle has landed....

    by logosicon

    "Evans: He is not a fucking wise-ass. He’s a leader. He’s a soldier. This is the guy you want taking you into battle.” Understanding of a character's motivation helps in it's verisimilitude, bravo Mr. Evans. Hugo

  • July 19, 2011, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Clue Us In, Harry...

    by Goldfingah

    Why, so close to its release, have no reviews for this film come out yet, here or anywhere else? Is there a press embargo? Have there not been any press screenings? I haven't even seen any pictures of any grand premiere anywhere, so I assume there hasn't been any. And yet we get "leaked footage" from a screening for what, if reports are to be believed, was the U.S. military. I'm not bitching; seriously, I just want to know: what gives?

  • July 19, 2011, 2:19 a.m. CST

    chris seems like a nice guy

    by antonphd

    i hope he gets to direct movies once he's finished beating the shit out of the bad guys for 6 movies man, can you imagine how much working out he has to do for the next however many years it takes to make the rest of the films? to keep looking like he does. damn. sly is gonna have to have him in Expendables 6.

  • July 19, 2011, 2:34 a.m. CST

    So Captain America is a POTTY MOUTH

    by Professor_Monster

    How many times can you squeeze the word FUCK into an interview -- ready Chris.... and GO! Moving back to Boston is all well and good when you're tied into a 6 year contract. I live in Boston and Mr Not Another Teen Movie better get used to LA if he ever wants to direct. That position they don't just give away because you're 6ft + with blonde hair. You will have to eat your way through assholes - or find a way to get Marvel to let you direct CAP 5. You can always tell the people who have had life handed to them -- they still have no idea how things work and it's going on right in front of them. Check out Downey's attempts at directing -- they suck. Unless you want to do that i Suggest moving to LA and learning from someone - Carpenter, Donner, - someone who will take you in and show you what to do.

  • July 19, 2011, 3:13 a.m. CST

    For Me It'd Be Enough...

    by Goldfingah

    ...if Marvel had enough faith in their movie to start letting the reviews come in. Come on, the last Marvel movie that had a review embargo (or whatever this is) this close to the release was GHOST RIDER! Whether it succeeds or fails, it'd be enough for me to see Marvel stand by their movie rather than try underhanded tricks like "leaked footage" to sell it.

  • July 19, 2011, 3:13 a.m. CST

    Great interview!

    by KGB3317

    Really looking forward to Captain America. Chris Evans definitely has some acting chops (I thought he was great in Sunshine and The Losers). I also appreciate the filmmakers having the humor not bleed into Steve Rodgers, it sounds like they got the character right. As for Evan's preference for epic movies, I think he's going to be in a few the next couple of years. Can't wait for The Avengers.

  • Then again, those guys loved Battle Los Angeles or whatever the fuck that was called. And that was a big pile of crap.

  • July 19, 2011, 3:43 a.m. CST

    Lol Professor_Monster: Directing.

    by tailhook

    They always let actors direct if really they want to, to get them signed. Just look @ William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Bill Paxton, Kevin Costner, to name a few.

  • July 19, 2011, 3:52 a.m. CST

    Hold up a sec......

    by James Stevenson

    So this movie is the final springboard leading into The Avengers, and there are no press screenings between now and Friday? That doesn't bode well for either movie. Like many of you, I want this movie to be good..... but I suspect it will be somewhere between mediocre and merely acceptable. Plus it's the last one up in a summer inundated with comic book adaptations. So it's gotta raise the bar by default, which won't be easy.

  • July 19, 2011, 4:21 a.m. CST

    not_quite_right

    by Goldfingah

    I raised the issue of no apparent press screenings on the "leaked footage" thread, and apparently there have been press screenings. There's also reportedly an embargo for a few days while everyone's engulfed in Pottermania. That makes sense, even if opening a week after the movie that just broke "The Dark Knight's" opening weekend record doesn't. I maintain that Marvel/Paramount should've just opted to slug it out with "Cowboys and Aliens" rather than open in the wake of Potter.

  • July 19, 2011, 4:30 a.m. CST

    problem is Evans is not amazing enough for Tony tobe in awe

    by chien_sale

    that's the problem, Evans is just average, not charismatic to be THE Cap of our generation.

  • July 19, 2011, 4:44 a.m. CST

    @goldfingah

    by James Stevenson

    Agreed. Like the Twilight movies of the past few years, Harry Potter movies tend to stomp the living shit out of any & all competition, and that for at least 2 weekends. Marvel should've given Captain America a wider berth. Fuckit; I'm gonna go see it anyway.

  • July 19, 2011, 4:46 a.m. CST

    AMERICA FUCK YEAH

    by KilliK

  • July 19, 2011, 4:57 a.m. CST

    Hopefully CA is not another Green Lantern

    by kafka07

    Review for this coming soon I hope. Releases in 2.5 days, after all. But I like Chris Evans. If this movie fails I will feel bad for the guy.

  • July 19, 2011, 5:35 a.m. CST

    My comment from another site:

    by Ryan Little

    Here's my prediction on why we have a review embargo: TPTB are uncertain about how the film will perform, especially in the wake of the Green Lantern debacle and the Harry Potter juggernaut. They want to make sure audiences are sold as much as possible on the character and the action before any opinions or spoilers are out there. Especially since Captain America could be regarded/ridiculed as a "political" character, even within the United States. I've always felt this film would be a harder sell than Thor or just about any other major Marvel property. Captain America is my favorite character, of course, and I've waited YEARS for him to be done justice in movie form. But I'm not blind to the risks in bringing him to the screen. I hope the movie works out well for everyone involved. Within...what? 36 hours we should know where things are headed for our hero. I'm going to feel every one of those hours go by, I'm sure. I'm scared to death, especially after Green Lantern, but...I don't know...I just CAN'T see how this movie could fail--creatively--like GL did. The Box Office is anyone's guess. But, CREATIVELY, this movie HAS to be miles above GL.

  • July 19, 2011, 6:03 a.m. CST

    NOT ANOTHER TEEN MOVIE

    by MaxTheSilent

    Totally under-rated comedy. Not much wit in the script to speak of, but the whole cast in that thing is so fucking good (especially Evans) that it's a real joy to watch.

  • July 19, 2011, 6:57 a.m. CST

    TAILHOOK - Those actors had YEARS behind them --

    by Professor_Monster

    And if I'm correct Nimoy and Shat's first directing gigs came by way of Star Trek - so, like i said, he may be able to convince Marvel to let him direct a Cap movie. And Costner had to raise the money on his own to direct his first films. They were independent.

  • July 19, 2011, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Embargo because of Hogwarts

    by ClayMatthews

    Embargo is to keep from stepping in the piles of Harry Potter money all over the ground right now. Movie has indeed screened. First (?) review is here: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110719/GPG0503/110718145/Review-Captain-America-bulks-up-summer-super-sized-heroism

  • July 19, 2011, 8:01 a.m. CST

    another review...

    by ClayMatthews

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/YggdrasiloftheGeeks/news/?a=41948

  • July 19, 2011, 8:04 a.m. CST

    and another...

    by ClayMatthews

    Okay, these are not Roger Ebert but what the hell http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/captain-america-review

  • Plus it has been screened for the troops. There's technically a press embargo until tomorrow, with the film's premiere tonight. It likely would have premiered over the weekend with reviews beginning Monday, except that it would have been buried under all of the Harry Potter record box office press.

  • July 19, 2011, 8:08 a.m. CST

    If Tony Stark has heard about Cap all his life.

    by cookylamoo

    Why is Cap's shield lying around Tony's lab like garbage in Iron Man II?

  • July 19, 2011, 8:08 a.m. CST

    Screening a movie for the troops but embargoing it for critics....

    by Bobo_Vision

    ....is a way to garner good word of mouth for bad movies with a jingoistic theme.

  • July 19, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST

    I like LAST SAMURAI, you know? I liked LEGENDS OF THE FALL.

    by Brian Hopper

    Yikes. With taste that wretched, his fans better hope his agent picks his future scripts and not him.

  • July 19, 2011, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Here is my own spoiler-free review without having seen the film...

    by ClayMatthews

    It's a comic book movie about a guy called Captain America. If you don't depend on another person's screen-adaptation of a comic book to define your own happiness AND are not offended by the idea of someone being associated with America you will probably think the movie is pretty good. Otherwise you will be miserable, troll then hell out of the movie on this site, and subsequently entertain me - and I will laugh and squirt coffee out of my nose.

  • July 19, 2011, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Still ...

    by Cruizer Dave

    Can't get past that stupid looking helmet.

  • July 19, 2011, 9:14 a.m. CST

    I already saw Harry Potter twice

    by mukhtabi

    So if Evans pulled off Cap'n America well, I shall afford Marvel the same courtesy.

  • July 19, 2011, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Do any Talkbackers ever just... WATCH a Movie?

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    You already know whether you want to see this movie or not. There will be reviews up later this week. Just like EVERY FUCKING MOVIE EVER MADE. What is this "Press Embargo" Bullshit? Critics often see movies a week or so early. The good ones WAIT to put their reviews up anyway because they've had a privilege the audience hasn't had. Before the Internet, reviews were published the day the movie was released (Fridays usually) or in a Weekend Preview section that comes out in Newspapers on Thursdays. "Weekly" Newspapers come out on Thursdays as well. Every major critic will see CAPTAIN AMERICA in a critics screening by Wed night & have a review up online and/or in print by Thursday. You can't see the fucking movie until Fri or midnight Thurs anyway. What's the rush? Do you want to have yet another speculative argument about a movie none of you have seen? Wouldn't it be easier to.. WATCH THE FUCKING MOVIE AND MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND?

  • July 19, 2011, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Normals?

    by carey adams

    There's no such thing.

  • July 19, 2011, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Harry's comment, seriously?

    by sunwukong86

    Harry you get a hard on for a superhero movie? And you wonder why your reviews get bashed...

  • Those ASPCA commercials with all the sad animals in cages? Fuck. Right there with you, Chris. It's okay. It's okay. After the cameras stopped rolling they took every single one of those animals out and played with them and gave them treats all day and found a loving home for every single one of them. I promise. It's okay. It's okay.

  • I get to share a dream with my son...when I take him to see CAPTAIN AMERICA. Thank you to all involved. --Just being able to share this experience with my family means more to me than you could possibly ever know. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

  • July 19, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Embargoed Reviews: holding the all-time box office record.

    by Chewtoy

    I do love the "Go to Boxofficemojo.com" comments as if there's some kind of support for your random, made up "facts" there. Anyway, "Avatar" was subject to a review embargo as well, and turned out to get glowing reviews and set the all-time box office record. And yes, people broke the embargo early, but the studio did have it in place. So an embargo alone is hardly a solid indicator of either critica or box office failure. I suspect more may break the embargo on Captain America today, but most can probably wait until midnight tonight. I suspect that critics were willing to go along with this embargo because they found the movie average-to-good (unlike with Green Lantern, where they broke it to counter misleading quote-filled commercials from WB), and there isn't the huge interest of an Avatar or such that would make the stampede to their site to see an early review that irresistible.

  • July 19, 2011, 11:12 a.m. CST

    genderbender

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I think there's a major difference between a studio screening a movie for critics but then asking those critics to hold off on "publishing" their reviews until closer to a film's release date to avoid spoilers, and a studio NOT having press screenings in advance because they know they have a turkey and they want to catch an opening weekend audience unawares. CAPTAIN AMERICA will have press screenings this week if it hasn't already. Critics will publish their reviews by Thurs. Again: What's the Rush? Reviews have become just another thing for AICN talkbackers to argue about. If you like the movie, like the movie. If you don't, don't. The Tomatometers and millions at the box office have no bearing on how asimovlives is ever going to feel about Abrams STAR TREK for example. Why do any of you need someone else's review to make up your mind about this movie? Either before or after seeing it?

  • July 19, 2011, 11:49 a.m. CST

    I liked him when he was young and could play

    by sweeneydave

    Freddie Prinze Jr in Not Another Teen Movie.

  • July 19, 2011, 11:50 a.m. CST

    jdanielp

    by sweeneydave

    I'm right there with you.

  • July 19, 2011, 11:51 a.m. CST

    I hope any sequels take place in WWII

    by SifoDyasJr

    It would be great to get an Invaders group together on screen. That's assuming Marvel Studios has the rights to Namor and he's not tied into any Fantastic Four contract.

  • July 19, 2011, 11:59 a.m. CST

    First internet review up?

    by krabklaw

    http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110719/GPG0503/110718145/Review-Captain-America-bulks-up-summer-super-sized-heroism It says it's the best of the super-hero movies of the s.ummer

  • July 19, 2011, 12:04 p.m. CST

    All of my pets are adopted, Sarah McLachlan!

    by rev_skarekroe

    What more do you want from me?!?

  • It means they're trying to hide mediocre-to-awful reviews for as long as they can. People bending over backwards to explain why the reviews are being embargoed sound a little desperate. I mean, I really want this to be good. The trailers looked great and I'm a big fan of Brubaker's work on the comic, but... I dunno... They had advance reviews for Thor like 3 weeks before the movie even opened, and for this, nothing? Let's at least be honest here: it doesn't bode well.

  • July 19, 2011, 12:20 p.m. CST

    genderb(l)ender: "in the already-practically-shut-down AVENGERS movie"

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    Haha, and now: "that the era of the CBM is drawing to a close, largely thanks to the wretched quality of this summer's CBMs." What will you cleverly change your name to next time? "bendergender"?

  • July 19, 2011, 12:39 p.m. CST

    That was a horrible post, Genderblender

    by Anthrax

    We expect more from you. Much more. Step up. The whole notion that films made about comic book properties are on the decline, and that now the 'normals' can rejoice as the geeks retreat is either born out of complete ignorance, or baiting. That's it. Films like The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Spider-Man... These movies made boat loads of cash. If you think it was just the geek community that propped these films up, then I also have some great land in Florida I'd like to sell you... Comic books aren't a genre, they are a medium. Any story can be told in said medium; crime dramas, horror, comedy, war stories, sci-fi, romance... The list could go on and on. Therefore, there's simply no such thing as a, 'comic book movie' genre. It would be much more accurate to group these films into a 'superhero' sub-genre. And anyone who thinks that the death of adapted comic book properties is near simply has no clue as to how the film industry works.

  • July 19, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    And Captain America IS a liberal

    by Anthrax

    If you really want to use that broad term to define someone's political philosophies.

  • that's how he treats every piece of equipment he has: it's disposeable, he can buy/build another one. See how he doesn't even give a fuck his cars are destroyed when he tests the suit in IM1. It may not even be Cap's WWII shield, maybe it's a new design he's working on. Who knows.

  • July 19, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    @cockylamoo, Cap

    by Smartacus

  • July 19, 2011, 1:03 p.m. CST

    @cockylamoo, Cap

    by Smartacus

  • July 19, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST

    DAMMIT! Kept hitting the wrong key

    by Smartacus

    Sorry, Cap's shield in Tony's garage is obvious. It isn't Cap's shield. It was made by Tony, not Howard as he tried to work out how Cap's shield always came back to him (which he'd heard about from his father all his life). He's been trying to work out how it did that his whole life but without a real vibranium (it was vibranium right?) shield he could never get it to behave that way.

  • The first reviews for it showed up 4 days before it opened, as opposed to 3 days for Cap with the first review of his film appearing today. That's not the most damning difference. You're right though... the studio is trying to manage bad reviews. That's what studios do. Captain America is tracking well. They don't need good reviews to open this film, so there's not a lot to gain from them. Bad reviews, however, could undercut the opening weekend. I'm sure Green Lantern spooked a bunch of studios, as from a studio standpoint the level of quality between it and Thor or X-men probably didn't seem so vast. If Green Lantern can earn such a scathing Tomato-meter score, then how confident can the average marketing person be that Captain America will be totally different? Studios are notorious for believing the have lightning in a bottle that turns out to fizzle, or thinking they have a disaster that turns out to be a crowd-pleaser. Still, they're not hiding the film. It's had screenings, and it will have more. Critics have plenty of time to post reviews before it opens. But, strategically, if it ends up gathering a bunch of mediocre reviews that lead to a low Rotten Tomato score then there isn't time for the film to be completely written off by the press before audiences get a chance to see it an judge for themselves.

  • July 19, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Fuck IMDB has 4 reviews up

    by eric haislar

    and they are all glowing. The even McWeeny said it was good and had fun.

  • July 19, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST

    I don't think the embargo means anything negative

    by krabklaw

    Last week was always going to be all about the final Harry Potter movie. There was no benefit in trying to compete for attention in that environment by letting writers release their reviews. If anything, the fact that they made the reviewers wait until this week is a good sign. If they believed the movie would be poorly reviewed then having those reviews buried under a ton of Harry Potter hype last week wouldn't sound like such a bad idea. By doing it this way, the headlines will all be about the Captain America movie this week.

  • July 19, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Hell they are screening it at Comic Con

    by eric haislar

    If it was bad do you really think they would do that. Everyone knows if it is bad at the Con everyone else will find out. God knows Fan boys do nothing but bitch.

  • July 19, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Who'll slip the noose on the goose-stepping goons from Berlin?

    by Chewtoy

    http://youtu.be/vsrd1z-Ufuo I'm sold.

  • July 19, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Genderblender, maybe you should change your username to....

    by Mattman

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa.

  • July 19, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST

    professor_monster:

    by Destry

    i guess i'm getting old, 'cause the first thing that occurred to me as i read this was the whole "pottymouth" thing. evans seems like a good, likable guy, which is rare...but then he uses the f-bomb as an adjective about a dozen, needless times. it's just...lazy. and a little classless.

  • July 19, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Like I said before, don't feed the troll. It's just a character like

    by Dennis_Moore

    Choclate Woman or JettL, probably the same person.

  • July 19, 2011, 2:20 p.m. CST

    anthrax

    by DoctorWho?

    Do not for even one second confuse what a 'liberal' was back in the day with the modern day LEFT.

  • Actually blender , it is the very CONTENT of your posts that no one takes seriously... regardless of your name.

  • July 19, 2011, 2:32 p.m. CST

    I also sympathize over the name thing, Gender

    by Mattman

    Back when I was MattmanReturns, some asshole started calling himself BatmanReturns. Fucking bullshit.

  • July 19, 2011, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Bender/Blender. Whatever. It's all bullshit.

    by ColonelFatheart

    You're probably just the same person (a college-age man who's taken a few gender studies and creative writing classes, likely) fucking around, staging some 'performance art' psychodrama, intentionally 'slipping up' in some posts (i.e., the WATCHMEN/AVATAR parallel) to generate more artificial conflict. Maybe it's just fodder for your master's thesis. I hope you get an 'A.' I concede it's clever, maybe even a little funny at times. But at this point, it's so transparent that you are bullshitting us.

  • July 19, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST

    You're welcome Genderblender

    by Mattman

  • July 19, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Nothing against Evans, as he seems cool, but the Net

    by Dennis_Moore

    existed twenty years ago. It's just that the moron masses hadn't caught on yet.

  • July 19, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Gosh, Captain America sure swears a lot

    by Geekgasm

    Seriously - "fucking goddamit damn fucking fuckity fuck fuck fuck" was a bit much. Does he kiss his mother with that mouth? You're a superhero now, Chris. Clean it up for the kiddies.

  • July 19, 2011, 3:08 p.m. CST

    @erichaislar they screened Scott Pilgrim last year

    by sunwukong86

  • July 19, 2011, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Trouble with swearing..

    by Red_Right_Return

    Bunch of puritans. You would think people would grow out of it, but this country is only going backwards. I mean, look at the crap they call rock now? We are spoonfed American Idol crap, people would rather watch torture porn than real horror, and yet we have babies in our country who can't see an exposed tit or hear someone swearing. You people have real issues.

  • July 19, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    I will destroy the idea that Comic Book movies are coming to and end...

    by Andrew Coleman

    Okay Green Lantern didn't make $400 million dollars. Did you really expect it would? Really? Also this summer Green Lantern can be the only example of a comic book movie under performing. Sorry but making over $100 million is still something to be impressed by. X-Men: First Class. First off the movie is set in the 60's, totally new cast, so audiences would be hesitant. The film has still made almost $350 million world wide. Sure it's not a billion dollars but that is a lot of cash. Then think about DVD and rental numbers... The movie was a hit! Sorry you can make up stuff as much as you want but it's true. Thor made almost $450 million world wide on a lesser budget than X-men. Sorry it was a hit as well. So when Thor a comic book concept that is really hard to sell to major audiences. And an X-Men film set in the 60's with a new cast... Both were huge hits I think is proof that comic book movies are doing really well.

  • July 19, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Also...

    by Red_Right_Return

    I guess you never saw the episode of The Wire on HBO where two of the characters just say FUCK in different ways for five minutes. It was brilliant.

  • July 19, 2011, 4:37 p.m. CST

    a genderblender imposter?

    by CT1

    rofl oh hmmm I wonder who would do that, I mean it couldn't possibly be... Nah.

  • July 19, 2011, 4:39 p.m. CST

    I owe GenderBLender an apology.

    by Anthrax

    I didn't notice until just now that there's a GenderBender in this thread... Should have caught it much earlier. I did think those posts were extremely out of character for GBL. I'll have to start paying a little more attention. @doctorwho? - Certainly not, sir. Cap is a liberal in the traditional sense of the term, and if you wanted to classify him further, he's a traditional Democrat. These two terms have been perverted over the last few years by left wing kooks who are just as nutty and ill informed as any tea party member, and those same tea party fools who can't differentiate between a Democrat and a Socialist (And act as if Socialism is equal to witchcraft.) That doesn't change the fact that Cap is indeed a Donkey.

  • July 19, 2011, 4:45 p.m. CST

    @myphdisdoom, I agree, no end in sight to comic book movies

    by Smartacus

    I think if anything this summer might have demonstrated that there's a limit to the number of comic book movies in a given summer. Four comic book movies (specifically superhero "tights & capes" comic book movies) seems a bit much. Or maybe it's a Marvel/DC thing. Thor, X-Men FC, & Captain America all benefit from the Marvel "aura" that began with the original X-Men & Spider-Man films and really hit it's peak with Iron Man and it's sequel. I think if someone went to see Thor and really knew what it was when they walked in then that same person was probably planning on seeing Fist Class & Captain America. Probably not so much Green Lantern (though I enjoyed it). A Nolan Batman film would have no doubt pulled its share of box office this year but anything else DC was probably going to be the odd-film-out.

  • July 19, 2011, 4:49 p.m. CST

    "Fist Class", some typos are just made for message boards

    by Smartacus

    The mental picture is not pretty. Also if I were Harry I'd have already deleted the accounts of every single poster with the word "Gender" in their name just on general principle.

  • 'She' can't quit me! Just great.

  • July 19, 2011, 5:04 p.m. CST

    You've got to admit, at least GenderBender is committed.

    by Anthrax

    This is starting to turn into a, "The Return of Barry Allen" type of situation. And, much like that awesome story, I think that by the end of this, we'll all be much happier with Wally as our Flash (Or, in this case, Blender as our Gender.) Why on earth would someone who apparently takes so much time to have a presence on this site want this, or any (And apparently, all) films based on comic books to fail, is simply beyond me.

  • July 19, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Oh, I get it now.

    by Anthrax

    GenderBender just doesn't know what he's talking about. Cool.

  • July 19, 2011, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Harry has a hard on. Im calling in sick tommorrow

    by Knobules

    There is a true blow chunks image in my head now. Thanks for that big guy. Disgusting

  • July 19, 2011, 5:10 p.m. CST

    knobules

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    But how can you imagine it when it's something that likely can't even be seen in real life?

  • July 19, 2011, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Green Lantern flopped because it was shit.

    by hank henshaw

    Had WB made a decent-to-good movie, reviews would have reflected that and people would've shown up to watch the movie. It was all downhill after they announced the (mis)casting of Ryan Reynolds for Hal Jordan. He was wrong for the part, just like Jack Black was wrong for Kyle Rayner some years ago. So,WB: if you make decent-to-good movies, like the Nolan Batman movies (not my favorite movies, but they are high quality) you get a box office success. You want to spend millions making shitty movies? Expect flops like Superman Returns, Green Lantern and Jonah Hex.

  • July 19, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Christ almighty. What defuck happened in here?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    genderbender, genderblender: You're both fucking with my head. And then that mysterious 'thatchicken' shows up AGAIN, making a post that seems to be coming from genderblender(?) ... So maybe my theory the other day is indeed true? Fukk me. Quick, someone cut me a line.

  • July 19, 2011, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Oh, so now it's cool to hate on Ryan Reynolds? REAL cool.

    by CT1

    Let's see how you haters like it after his already trailer-worthy next bro-com opens NEXT month following his dark and tortured turn in "Green Lantern". I guess haters really do gotta hate.

  • July 19, 2011, 5:39 p.m. CST

    genderblender (whoever you are)

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    I thought we had an understanding. For a while I was convinced you and the bender were NOT the same. Then along came this 'thatchicken,' which appears to be one of your sock puppets (and that's cool, hey, whatever). Let's just say I'm confused about all this. I like to keep good tabs on the trolls around these parts, but this genderbender/blender situation has turned into a real wild card even CHOPPAH can't quite figure out. I thought I had you pegged for 'thatchicken' the other day, but you talked me down. Now I see 'thatchicken' posting again in a voice and style similar to yours, and in response to someone who was addressing you. Hmmm. And, no, I'm not the bender. I can only be so much of a prick.

  • July 19, 2011, 5:52 p.m. CST

    No clarification for THE CHOPPAH?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    This is indeed a sad day. Let it be CHOPPED from our memories.

  • July 19, 2011, 6:19 p.m. CST

    ME SUSPECTS THIS GENDER

    by BSB

  • Is what I was intending to say.

  • July 19, 2011, 6:31 p.m. CST

    genderblender

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    I considered the copies a form of flattery.

  • July 19, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST

    SOME GUY POSTED WITH MY NAME SPELLED BACKWARDS

    by BSB

    Even had ME fooled.

  • July 19, 2011, 7:09 p.m. CST

    genderblender

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    My advice: Don't take shit too seriously. The first step on that path? Buy yourself a fat sack of ganja, pack a bowl, light it up, and turn up the Janis.

  • July 19, 2011, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Professor Monster is pulling a Spacey

    by Sicuv Uyall

    "Chris, my name is not really Professor Monster, and I am connected here in Hollywood. What I'm saying is if you suck my dick I will get you good directing job." hahahahaahah

  • July 19, 2011, 7:40 p.m. CST

    M6Y

    by Sicuv Uyall

    if you didn't like Last Samurai, you need to have your balls reattached. You're not a man!!

  • July 19, 2011, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Evans GREAT in sunshine.

    by SQUIDDLY

    Love the film and love Evans' character that makes the hard choices the crew dont want to(even when his own life may be forfeit due to those choices). Anyway sunshine really made a believer out of me as far as Evans is concerned, also the trailer has me sold on Captain America, I'm there day one. Sorry about you being famous chris.

  • Yeah-yeah, TMI. But I needed to say it. Lucky for me (ha ha... ha) his brother is a gay. So, I win.

  • July 19, 2011, 8:53 p.m. CST

    destry - you aren't getting old

    by Professor_Monster

    -- when someone is chosen to play a hero as big as Cap, they should at not try to sound like every rapper with a microphone. Using the word Fuck only shows how uneducated one is -- and I don't want to believe Chris to be stupid. He should take a look at some old Christopher Reeve interviews - you never heard him even say Damn, because he had a responsibility to children.

  • July 19, 2011, 9 p.m. CST

    genderblender

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I always take your posts seriously. I don't always agree with them. I do take the time to read them though. And may I suggest: even with American politics as polarized as they are right now, do you really think a movie called CAPTAIN AMERICA is going to flop? It's a feel good, patriotic America kicks ass film set during WWII. All the left wingers who like comic books and action movies are going to see it. All the right wingers who like unambiguous war movies are going to see it. My own girlfriend, who's Republican and has no interest in comic books whatsoever wants to see it. It won't do Dark Knight or Harry Potter numbers. Most movies don't. But there's no way in hell it's going to flop.

  • July 19, 2011, 9:21 p.m. CST

    So wait, this movie is under a review embargo by the studio?

    by Orbots Commander

    Yikes. And to think a bunch of friends and I are ready to order tickets on Fandango, thinking this will sell out all shows. Man, I hope this movie doesn't suck. And yeah, opening a week after the final Harry Potter movie was not the most brilliant release strategy. The tracking had been off the charts for that one for, like, the last YEAR. (BTW, I found HP7, while fine, to be wildly over-praised, with some very good moments provided by Alan Rickman and Ralph Fiennes. It came off like a rushed, Cliffs' Notes version of Rowling's novel.)

  • July 19, 2011, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Opening after HP7 -- Not Really An Issue

    by Dursman2000

    Potter is sure to have a big 2nd weekend, but every one of the HP films has been hugely front-loaded. This one might be different because it's the last one, but historically the Potter movies take a big -- BIG -- drop after their first weekends. If Capt. is good, it'll do just fine.

  • July 19, 2011, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Trailer shown during baseballs all-star game got a good reaction

    by leo54304

    from 3 DJs at the most popular FM station in my city (Green Bay). One of them mentioned a trailer for a "CCaptain..Marvel?" movie and it looked great. The other 2 chimed in "No, that was the captain america movie and I loved it". All three said they never went to a superhero movie but this one looked good enough that they were going to see it opening weekend. So if people who've never seen a superhero movie want to see cap just from one trailer I think this movie will meet whatever expectations the studio has for it. Plus advertising cap during the baseball all-star game is such a no-brainer.

  • July 19, 2011, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Oh poor Genderblender

    by D.Vader

    Booo hoo, people have realized I'm a troll and won't pay real attention to me or take me seriously! Poor girl. Id feel sorry for her if she acted less like a troll trying to piss off the majority of AICN and more like a real person looking for real discussion. But shes not.

  • July 19, 2011, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Yeah, this genderblender thing has gotten boring.

    by blackwood

    Sure, she's articulate... but she has no interest in this genuine discussion she keeps bleating about between desperately trying to coin 'fangeek' and preening herself with predictions about box office failure that a) have consistently proven to be false, and b) conviction that is means something it doesn't necessarily mean. I came in here with a perfectly good inappropriate homosexual remark and when I finally got around to reading the interview and ensuing talkback, the majority of it was genderblender performing her one-woman show -- first the troll then the victim. Ban this trash already.

  • To quote Ewan McGregor, "YOU have done that yourself!"

  • July 19, 2011, 10:59 p.m. CST

    So.........the movie's good?

    by Yelsaeb

  • July 20, 2011, 12:09 a.m. CST

    If Captain America cries then the Krauts have already won!

    by Onin Solstice

  • July 20, 2011, 12:16 a.m. CST

    The Avengers Teaser Trailer

    by Naruto_Uzimaki

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S46DiXSRTlg

  • July 20, 2011, 12:38 a.m. CST

    6 picture deal?

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Lol. no.

  • July 20, 2011, 3:39 a.m. CST

    Evans is like the blond Freddie Prinze Junior

    by chien_sale

    bland, average actor that's always gonna be stuck as the young hockey player next door.

  • July 20, 2011, 5:25 a.m. CST

    i take genderblender seriously

    by MacReady452

    I seriously disagree with nearly every arrogant, verbose and generalized diatribe. Who cares about Scott Pilgrim in a Cap thread? It didn't take socks to discredit you. Just your own keyboard and internet connection. I will see Cap at least three times just to pump off in the theat.....I mean pump up the box office.

  • July 20, 2011, 5:31 a.m. CST

    Moriarty Likes It!

    by Goldfingah

    http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/review-captain-america-offers-sprawling-sincere-superhero-story

  • July 20, 2011, 8:15 a.m. CST

    [Both Laugh]

    by twogunjames

    That wasn't funny though. It must have been an awkward laugh. You know? And really, LA must fuck with his head because for every person who thinks of the town as an oil rig that they want to get off of there is 1000 eager fuckers trying to get ON the rig and get to work.

  • July 20, 2011, 10:20 a.m. CST

    the only review I have seen so far :

    by PRESIDENT BALTAR

    Captain America Ignores Its Roots for Easy Money By Karina Longworth Wednesday, Jul 20 2011 Created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby for Marvel Comics in 1941, Captain America was among the first American comic books intended as an explicit work of patriotic, political propaganda: The cover of the first edition, available a year before Pearl Harbor, famously featured the titular costume hero punching out Adolf Hitler. A nod to that classic beatdown has been worked into a retro-styled poster for Captain America: The First Avenger, but the film, directed by George Lucas protégé Joe Johnston (whose credits span Honey, I Shrunk the Kids and The Wolfman), seems itself concerned with a more timely fight: It’s the latest, and last, Marvel Universe prequel to superhero supergroup flick The Avengers, finally due out next summer after half a decade of buildup encompassing two Iron Man films, two actors cast as Bruce Banner/The Incredible Hulk, and the establishment of the de rigueur post-credit teaser scene. (Spoiler alert: Captain America doesn’t have one). The film concerns the transformation of one Steve Rogers (Chris Evans), “a 90-pound asthmatic” repeatedly declared unfit to fight in World War II, whose persistence impresses Dr. Abraham Erskine (Stanley Tucci, heavily vamping), a German scientist working for the U.S. military alongside billionaire inventor/future Iron Man progenitor Howard Stark (Dominic Cooper). Steve is soon chosen for a top-secret military experiment, for which he’ll be injected with a serum that, as Colonel Tommy Lee Jones intones, will turn him from a weakling into “a new breed of super-soldier” assigned to “personally escort Adolf Hitler to the gates of hell.” Not that Hitler—or anything else ripped from real history or recognizable life—is really on the radar of this hokey, hacky, two-hour-plus exercise in franchise transition/price gouging, complete with utterly unnecessary post-converted 3-D. Shortly after Steve (who is played in both supersize and diminutive form by Evans via still-creepily uncanny head-replacement effects) emerges from the experiment as an enlarged, greased-up Ken doll, a spy kills Erskine. Without his champion, this human-engineered living weapon is relegated to what an opportunist politician claims is “the most important battlefield of the war”—the media offensive. Touring the country fronting a live propaganda show designed to sell war bonds, star of his own comics and short subjects, Captain America becomes a folk hero for the folks left at home. But on the frontlines, he’s a joke. Then, with no apparent combat training but a roadshow-bred sense of showmanship, he mobilizes a rescue mission to liberate his best friend, Bucky (Sebastian Stan), and incidentally frees 400 Allied soldiers for good measure. Steve gets some vague support (and the film gets a spark of much-needed swagger) from his ostensible love interest, Peggy (Hayley Atwell), a tough-broad British soldier who has some kind of role in the operation that’s neither specified nor apparently anything that would muss her lipstick. The lead villain here is Johann Schmidt (Hugo Weaving), a/k/a the Red Skull, a Nazi whose obsession with the occult is a bit much even for Hitler to take. Having almost cheerfully “left humanity behind,” Schmidt has assembled a splinter cult called HYDRA, through which he operates labor camps focused on harvesting energy from the Tesseract—a glowing cube thingy that Schmidt pillaged from Norway—and funneling that energy into weapons. It’s never clear what this power force actually is, but somehow it’s transferred to laser guns, which shoot streams of something or other to vaporize their victims on contact. That putting such a corpse-obliterating weapon in the hands of everyday Nazi soldiers would have been something of a Holocaust game changer is one of a number of potentially rich parallel-historical details that the film doesn’t care to grapple with. Captain America assembles a ragtag multi-ethnic band of soldiers to help carry out his elite missions, but there’s not so much as a single mention of the ideological divides that plagued the times—and, subsequently, spawned the original anti-Fascist Captain America comics. So what is Captain America fighting for? Apparently nothing more or less than screen time in The Avengers.

  • July 20, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST

    heres another one :

    by PRESIDENT BALTAR

    'Captain America' bulks up summer with super-sized heroism, big time nostalgia Jul. 19, 2011 | Written by Roger Moore There is so much “business” that the fourth big comic book movie adaptation of the summer has to take care of that frankly, it’s astounding that director Joe “Jumanji” Johnston is able to take care of it all, and with style. “Captain America” has to connect this World War II-era hero to modern times. The movie has to tie into all the other Marvel comic book movies that are part of “The Avengers,” because as the title implies, the good captain is “The First Avenger.” It has to deliver the origin myth — how Captain America was born out of a “super soldier” experiment during WWII. The film has to back-engineer its way into the meeting between the Captain (Chris Evans) and the Avenger leader we know as Nick Fury (Samuel L. Jackson), and give us a credible version of future Iron Man Tony Stark’s inventor dad, Howard Stark. And it has to be fun. It is. The fourth comic book movie of the summer is the best comic book movie of the summer. Johnston has delivered a light, clever and deftly balanced adventure picture with real lump-in-the-throat nostalgia, with Nazis — who make the best villains — and with loving references to “Star Wars” and “Raiders of the Lost Ark.” The movie’s first trick was turning hunky Chris Evans (”Fantastic Four,” “Scott Pilgrim vs. The World”) into what the ads in the back of comic books used to call “a 98 pound weakling.” They digitally “Benjamin Button” the guy into Steve Rogers, scrawny shrimp. But with World War II in full fury, Rogers is determined to serve his country, even if that country’s military rejects him as “4F,” unfit physically. He signs up for a special unit to be turned, thanks to a serum by Dr. Erskine (Stanley Tucci, in a kitschy accent), into super soldiers. “Zo, you vant to go overzees and fight ze Nazis?” Erskine picks Rogers because he keeps on fighting hopeless odds when he knows he’s right, and “He’s not a bully.” Rogers sticks up for the little guy. America needs super soldiers because those pesky Nazis already have one. Johann Schmidt is played by that villain’s villain, Hugo Weaving (”The Matrix”). Schmidt’s Hydra organization is developing super weapons and other super soldiers. And Schmidt has his hands on the Norse god Odin’s legendary source of power. “And de fuhrer digs for trinkets in ze desert,” Schmidt smirks in contempt. It’s a good thing the only American super soldier is ready to chase him, because Indiana Jones doesn’t appear to be available, being in the desert, digging for trinkets. Rogers is treated with scorn by his commanding officer, played by the commanding (and funny) Tommy Lee Jones. Rogers is sent on publicity tours, given a silly costume and a red, white and blue shield. But a little interference by a British agent (Hayley Atwell), a little gadget-tinkering by Howard- father-of-Tony- Stark (Dominic Cooper) and a USO tour to the front lines means this Captain will soon show he mettle. Being the hero means the normally jokey Evans isn’t given much funny to say. But he brings a proper earnestness to the character. “There are men laying down their lives. I’ve got no right to do any less than them.” On the face of it, “Captain America” seems like the corniest, most dated of the Marvel superheroes to try and bring to the big screen. One way to get us past that is to frame the story in the Captain’s re-discovery by a new generation — in the present day. The other is by spending money on good actors. Nobody but Jones could drawl about a soldier who will “personally escort Adolf Hitler to the Gates of Hell.” Tucci is marvelous, and as a balance, Toby Jones is brought in as sidekick scientist to Weaving’s perfectly-pitched Schmidt. Atwell makes a vivacious love interest, and they even spent the cash to land the voracious Natalie Dormer (Anne Boleyn of TV’s “The Tudors”) for a one-off man-eater scene. Others may roll their eyes at the motorcycle chase ripped from “Star Wars” and a certain upgraded flying prop from “Raiders.” The “borrowings” made me giggle, just as I marveled over the scenes where Rogers first encounters a group known in early comics as “Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandos.” There’s a lot here for the fanboy in us all. It’s too long, and it could do with a few more laughs. Why cast the swaggering Evans as the modest Captain America if you’re not going to let him put his quirky stamp on the character? But then, like Johnston and the movie around him, Evans has so much business and back story to carry that the real marvel of it all is how much fun it actually is.

  • July 20, 2011, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Gee..i wonder if this means Mr Beaks will give C.A. a stella rating?

    by Arkhaminmate001

  • July 20, 2011, 10:47 a.m. CST

    1 Week delay

    by Gavin

    So why the fuck do i need to wait till the 29th to see this in the U.K

  • July 20, 2011, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Just as I predicted, Captain America 33% on the Tomato Meter!

    by ganymede3010

    I actually predicted it wouldn't do any better than 44%. So many people on AICN were blinded by this piece of shit predicting how awesome and great this movie looked. I was one of the very few who said the trailers looked like shit and looks like I was right. Please don't jump on the Captain American hate train now, 90% of you were supplicating to Joe Johnston even though his previous movie's were complete failures. I TOLD YOU SO!!!

  • July 20, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST

    It's climbed up to 50% so far

    by Goldfingah

    ...numbers which GL never hit on RT, so at least it has that going for it. Still too early to tell where it'll settle, but it's doubtful it'll hit X-Men: First Class or even Thor levels on RT. Still, I feel that this close to opening day the the people who want to see it will see it regardless, and the people who don't want to won't. If the reviews had started coming out earlier, good or bad, they might have made more of a difference, but they aren't likely to now. In any event, they sure as hell didn't mean anything to TF3.

  • July 20, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Ganymede

    by micturatingbenjamin

    Good point -- But. Audiences are giving it 90%. Piece of shit critics? They don't buy tickets. If you listen to critics to determine what you go see, I can understand how you'd say critics not liking a flick would be HORRIBLE. I say, watch the box office here and overseas, and DVD sales -- They come back with more than 15% in profit, this franchise has legs. It's business. I thought the trailers looked damned cool. I like the idea of a period piece Supers flick. Even Watchmen made money in the long run. I know people don't want to be the guy or girl who was caught liking Vanilla Ice, doing the Macarena, or dancing to Mambo Number 5. Later on in life, you feel like an asshole. But now, since most geeks/nerds/film afficianados are so piss-scared of looking stupid for liking something other people think is stupid shit, they avoid flicks that are fun or just hate on them to be the first in that negative ass line, to say 'I KNEW Macarena was BULLSHIT!'. I'm not telling you to not hate on shit before it's out. You're your own person. I'm saying that someone's gotta give shit a chance, or we lose genre cinema, and we get whatever the fuck we had before genre got a resurgence in the 90s. Problem Child? Fuck me running with a chainsaw. No thanks, man. Make Mine Genre Flicks Forever. MB

  • July 20, 2011, 1:53 p.m. CST

    THEN: genderblender: "in the already-practically-shut-down AVENGERS movie"

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    NOW: genderbender: "Go ahead, scramble to rationalize this, but you secretly fear that this may indeed sink THE AVENGERS. At this rate, they might not even finish the damned thing." That missing "L" thing of yours isn't making much difference...

  • July 20, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST

    carl xvi gustaf... BlenderBender's secret is out

    by Mattman

    Despite the insistence that they're not the same person, they say exactly the same shit. Looks like no one is falling for their ruse anymore.

  • But yet in the "Quint visits Cap Set" talkback we have genderblender (with an L) doing your usual routine and you are nowhere to be seen. Surely you couldn't have missed an opportunity to troll a Captain America talkback?! So why didn't you defend yourself against the impostor then? Here's the talkback: http://tinyurl.com/435akvg Another gem in there is genderblender saying hangover 2 isn't considered a hit.

  • July 20, 2011, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Genderblender, don't get your penis in a twist

    by Mattman

  • July 20, 2011, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Genderblender...

    by NightArrows

    Your points aren't coming across because NO ONE should give two fucks about what you have to say. You're white noise, or rather you're more like the sound a fax machine makes when you pick the phone up before the transmission is done. So in closing, go back to braiding your armpit hair and leave the troll posts to people who are actually interesting.

  • July 20, 2011, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Evans looks like he's from a boy's band

    by chien_sale

    He's no Cap

  • July 20, 2011, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Just 1 Question! Why no Fantastic 4 Questions?

    by Drunken Busboy

    Chris Evans has played the Human Torch in 2 luke warm movies. The guy gets a 2nd chance at another Marvel icon. Not even an acknowledgement of this in your intro. I would love to know his thoughts on why the F4 franchise never caught on! He & Chiklis were the only 2 actors in the entire cast(s) that weren't mis-cast. Throw a curve ball once in awhile amongst all the softball pitches please. ;)

  • "Captain America will destroy, and is better than, Harry Potter, FACT!" -sobchaksecurity lulz

  • July 20, 2011, 9:30 p.m. CST

    HARRY POTTER is over halfway to a billion worldwide.

    by blackwood

    Nothing's going to stop that train. Not for a while. It could even do AVATAR numbers

  • July 20, 2011, 10:21 p.m. CST

    genderbender just doesn't quit.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    I admire the lass, in a way. She's got moxie. Now when are you gonna show me that watery wedge of yours?

  • July 20, 2011, 10:51 p.m. CST

    genderblender knows this, but won't admit it

    by BadMrWonka

    if you look at the rottentomatoes "reviews", all the legitimate reviewers are positive, and all the weirdo dong-dongs that no one has ever heard of, are negative. Let's see if genderblender comes back later to talk some more after more reviews are in. Crossing fingers!

  • July 20, 2011, 11:06 p.m. CST

    GenderBlender

    by micturatingbenjamin

    Yeah but...The Dark Knight Rises...Amazing Spider Man -- Comic flicks are a niche. I like that they make comic flicks. I don't have the same Schadenfreude that you seem to when something someone made fails. I won't play armchair psych major, but something's seriously fucked up inside your head if you really think that anyone gives a shit when it comes to flicks doing well or not. Shit, are you secretly Roger Ebert or something? Anyway, in your perfect cinematic world, what would be released non-stop? I can tell you this: Whatever the fuck it is you like? Someone out there wants to piss their hot venom all over it as much as you like to about comic flicks. I see backing away from comic films as being a natural thing -- Nobody wants all comic tentpole flicks -- also -- Transformers (while technically NOT a comic film, is EXACTLY a fucking filmgeek flick -- and did monster business). Geeky fucking flicks rule. -- I'll even buy them on DVD when they come out to make sure they make more of 'em. Also -- Looking over these BOMBS you're talking about -- Cap hasn't had his first weekend yet --- Fans want to go see it -- regardless of criticism, enthusiasm for Cap is HUGE still, whereas with GL, you had shitty reviews, and people weren't about to come aboard on a property that outside of comic geeks no one gave a shit about, especially if people wanted to hate that fucking movie before it even came out. X-Men First Class - Profitable before DVD release?...gonna get another go, I think. Kick Ass - Pulled a profit. Foreign and domestic. Spider-Man 3 -- Nearly a fucking Billion (with a B) Worldwide. Ghost Rider made a profit -- Going into a sequel that's shooting now, right? Thor - Nearly half a billion (Again, with a fucking B) dollars worldwide. Incredible Hulk - Made it's budget and a profit before DVD. Iron Man 2 Around half a billion at home, nearly a billion worldwide before DVD. So, Marvel Studios, sitting on all of these geekdollars is going to stop milking dorks for their pocket change WHEN exactly? I don't think you've thought this through...I think you might be clinically brain damaged. Yeah, Hollywood's not putting all it's eggs into ComicCon. Who the fuck would? All you need to look at is 'Mallrats' -- Screened at ComiCon in front of frothing fanboys and girls, they thought 'HIT!'. It's not an accurate representation of the mainstream -- right? So, what's your fucking point? Hollywood took five or six years to catch up to what people with common sense already know? You can't trust those fucking fanboys with driving business beyond themselves to the theaters. My projection - Cap makes it's budget or it does Thor money. That's, again, nearly half a billion worldwide...Comic book movies ain't going anywhere -- Hollywood just realizes motivating people at a convention is fucking pointless. MB

  • and suddenly genderblender magically appears! With more stupid "facts". Give it a fucking rest.

  • July 20, 2011, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Mr. Evans

    by MattDomville

    Comic book movies are indeed here to stay. Chris Evans seems to know that better than most. My own theories about his casting choices are contained herein: www.cinemabums.com

  • July 21, 2011, 3:03 a.m. CST

    GenderBlender thought First Class sucked, she has zero credibility.

    by ganymede3010

    According to her Thor sucked too, she's a hater and nothing more.

  • July 21, 2011, 10:08 a.m. CST

    @#$%!@$#!!!! DAAMMIT!

    by Weapon M

    It opens on friday?!?!? FRIDAY?!?!!! It's Thursday!! I gotta wait till Tomorrow????? This is bullshit!!!! maaannnnn!!!! FUCK!!!!! What the hell?!?! One of these other fucking blockbuster movies- Transformers opened on a fucking Wednesday man- they love their fans more?? Talk about blueballs man!! Damnnn!!!!! Shit

  • July 21, 2011, 10:10 a.m. CST

    :)

    by Weapon M

    It's cool! It's cool! -- I took my pills I'm okay.... lol What's another 24 hours?? Nothing... nothing... its okay.. I have waited over 10 years for this,, I can wait a little bit more... jussssss aaall--- @#$%!@#$! !@#$ !$!#@ $!@#$!#@$!@ #$!@ $!$! $!@# $! $!@$!@$!$! !@$ @$

  • July 24, 2011, 2:41 a.m. CST

    It feels like just the heartbeat of bullshit to me

    by SG7

    quote of the year. LA should use that as marketing: Visit LA: The Heartbeat of Bullshit!

  • July 24, 2011, 2:41 a.m. CST

    It feels like just the heartbeat of bullshit to me

    by SG7

    quote of the year. LA should use that as marketing: Visit LA: The Heartbeat of Bullshit!

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