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Marvel Wisely Offers Captain America To Chris Evans! Will He Accept?
Beaks here...
No matter what comes of this, you can't say Marvel didn't do their due diligence.
And you can't say they didn't offer the role to the best man for the job either. After a protracted casting process covered in minute detail on these here internets, THR's Borys Kit is reporting that Marvel Studios has offered the lead role in THE FIRST AVENGER: CAPTAIN AMERICA to Chris Evans. He is not, however, reporting that Evans has accepted.
This is important because, well, Evans (who did not read for the part) could decide he's not keen on Marvel's nine-picture commitment (which counts appearances in sequels and spinoffs) and go back to being a very talented actor on the brink of stardom. I mean, while it is extremely likely that he will steal portions of Edgar Wright's SCOTT PILGRIM VS. THE WORLD and Sylvain White's THE LOSERS, would these performances be enough to finally put him over the top? I'm not suggesting that CAPTAIN AMERICA is a can't-miss project, but given the effort and money Marvel has poured into setting up THE AVENGERS, I can't imagine the film being anything other than solid. Add in a Tony Stark-level turn from Evans (and he's got the charisma/acting chops to pull something like that off, too), and you're doing IRON MAN business.
I sincerely hope Evans takes the role. Though there have been some interesting names tossed around over the last few weeks, all of them sounded at best like intriguing third choices. Say "Chris Evans as Steve Rogers", and I can very easily see the CAPTAIN AMERICA movie I wanted when I was ten.
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How about the guy from Human Target? Mark Valley I think his name is.
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wat?
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He and Chicklis were the only good thing about the two FF movies
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When I think Captain Marvel, the ginger muppet who hosted TFI Friday is the last person to come to mind. Creative casting to say the least...
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Sounds like good casting. I think he'll be able to pull off 40s guy real well, and I think he'll be especially good at playing a displaced man from the 40s in today's world.
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He kinda sucked as Johnny Storm... although those films sucking were far from all his fault.
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I can dig it. Good call. Dude has personality that translates well on screen.
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Secret Wars movie will be a nightmare of screen dup special effects.
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but it is the best choice from "the list."
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Please say yes Chris!!!!!!!!!!!
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will he be the first to play multiple marvel heroes???
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And do what? That said, I think he's a good choice.
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Who decided that he would even come close to being a toughguy Cap?
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Seriously? Wow.
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Good Human Torch.
Great in Sunshine.
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Evans was wasted on those lackluster FF movies... even though he was a good Johnny Storm, he'd be an even better Captain America. Let's just hope he takes it!
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I hope Captain AMERICA battles and defeats the Rothschild created Nazi menace. elitists suck.
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Mar 19, 2010 6:57:43 PM CDT
I'm tired of casting judgement before the movie is even out...
by crunchymilk
... I mean, I though Downey would make a terrible Tony Stark and look how that turned out. So fuck it, I'll let Marvel do their thing and hope for the best.
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I expect he'll accept.
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Re-casting the Torch would be the LEAST worrisome prospect for a movie like that. They can't even figure out an Avengers movie, let alone a movie with every single Marvel character in it at once.
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PLEASE accept this offer, Mr. Evans! If they fucking cast that cock-fucker Tatum then there is absolutely no way I will watch this.
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you ever read a marvel comic, all the characters have the same face, it's like how all the disney princeses of the 90's looked the same, Evans is a capable enough actor that he can change up the characters portrayal and with blond hair he won't even remind anyone of johnny storm, i hope evans does it, he is young and talented enough to hold in there with the likes of downey and nortan
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Chris Evans was great barking orders as the acting captain in Sunshine. He can definitely command the screen and the Avengers. Great choice.
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Here's hoping someone throws you in front of a bus, you poisonous little turd.
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I am a sad panda. Still, Evans is pretty good. Better than fucking Channing Tatum. Say yes, Chris. Let the fans rest for a while.
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And put forth a mediocre one and we all applaud in furious fashion. Genius work. Evans is not bad, but he ain't Steve Rogers either. Close but no seegar.
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I'm not an amazingly diehard comic afficionado, but I love film in general, and as a die hard movie buff, I am a bit bummed with the casting choice of Chris Evans. I easily had him as my second choice of the list of rumored actors, but I feel that I can only support him if he takes a more serious turn like in SUNSHINE. I really don't want to see another Johnny Storm or Tony Stark smart ass in the costume. Even though many people laughed at me, I actually dug the idea of John Krasinski. When I heard Joe Johnston talking about how it was going to be a period piece and that Captain was at first going to be a Propaganda "USO" type figure that had to eventual become a hero, I really thought Krasinski could do it. I think that he is arguably one of the better actors of the rumored list (Evans also) but more importantly he has that period piece look that all the other choices are missing. I just hope this isn't going to be Johnny Storm's Captain America...
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His is the least horrible. This could work....
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We of the fanboy community solemnly swear to elevate you to the geek pantheon, with the same con-autograph-sales based pension as Lou Ferrigno and Peter Mayhew, and not turn on you until the fifth or sixth movie.
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Better than Jim from the office anyway.
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lol. pleeeeeez.
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Sorry, panic attack here- in the UK we have a guy called Chris Evans who is a somewhat irritating TV/Radio presenter, and for one horrible moment... you get the idea.
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Mar 19, 2010 7:06:47 PM CDT
The guy from Human Target would be the ideal choice!
by hollywoodhellraiser
Chris Evans who makes a better Torch SHOULD NOT be considered!
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This was the last person I was hoping for the part. He was terrible as the Human Torch. It seems a lot of people are excited, so I hope I'm wrong, but I honestly thought he was the worst part of FF. Even worse then The Thing's suit.
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about the FF movies. He took crap dialogue and a poorly-written character and at least made the Torch interesting. (Chiklis tried hard, too, but it's difficult to be convincing under tons of makeup).
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....but I agree with Lynchmob81. I think Mark Valley would be a terrific choice. Human Target is mediocre at best, but as soon as I saw Valley in that role I could see him as Cap.
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the udes like 6'4" has that all american boy charm, had 4 months at least to bulk up and most importantly he can act. The problem fan boys had is the same problem they have with every other actor...they typcast the shit out of any one who appears in something popular, John Krasinski is playing a character on the office, thats not the real him, Evans is a great choice, but "Jim Halpert" would have been the best choice
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It sounds like Marvel is trying to get a Cap on the cheap,and Evans may be too established to take on such a long-term commitment for so little money. Marvel may need to pony up and stop trying to nickel and dime the talent if they want to make the best movies possible...
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And he wears a whip cream and cherries on his nipples a hole time. YES!!!
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Thats for sure. Whatever that darsh's name is.
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So I think we can all agree, more or less, crisis averted. At least he's worth watching. Even if you don't think its the very best choice, it certainly isn't even close to the worst.
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I read somewhere that the original android Human Torch is a separate property that the FF version. So we might get to see Evans as Cap alongside the Hammond version of the Torch in the movie. Mind boggling, isn't it?
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Mar 19, 2010 7:12:26 PM CDT
As long as we're pretending that the FF movies never happenened,
by rabidfnark
then he's a fine choice. Maybe a tad on the snarky/wiseguy side, but not bad overall, and he does have charisma. Better than Channing Tatum by a country mile.
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has its pros and cons. He was the only interesting and charismatic character in the FF movies. Mainly because he was playing a character who didn't take being a superhero seriously at all, and so he could have fun with it.The comparison to RDjr's Stark is apt, as RDjr took a character mostly known as an alchoholic, serious character, and played up his devil may care playboy side. I wonder if that approach would work with Capt America, who is portrayed as really earnest and noble in the comic, and giving him a "who gives a shit" sense of humour. I guess this would also mean you couldn't have a Capt America-F4 team up movie, the Marvel universe movie fanboys seem to be praying for, unless you recast the Torch, which would be weird. Superheroes get recast all the time, but never in a movie with the same previous actor in a different role. It would be like if they recast Spidey in spiderman 4 but then partnered him with Tobey Maguire as Daredevil or deadpool or something. I guess Marvel doesn' plan any more F4 movies without extensive recasting anyhow.
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Sorry, not a huge point, but if we consider previous Marvel movies as being in continuity with the current ones leading to Avengers(which we shouldn't, as only Iron Man and Incredible Hulk were made by Marvel studios), we've already got the same actor playing Foggy Nelson and Happy Hogan. Maybe Favreau could play every dumpy middle-aged sidekick! Eh? Throw him in a bowler hat and a moustache?
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...But i hate Cap... also hate Titum...
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Really, let someone else have a shot at it. Besides, I like him better as the Human Torch. :)
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Tatum bad!
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Mar 19, 2010 7:18:00 PM CDT
He'd work great with RDJ, Sam Jackson and Edward Norton
by chuck_chuckwalla
Although, I think he was the best thing about FF as Johnny Storm, I am not expecting to see him play that character. I want him to play Cap as an old school tough guy with a soul. I'm thinking of a combination of Steve McQueen and Chuck Norris. Serious, deadly and no wise-cracks (but he can show his humanity and a sense of humor when he's not in costume kicking ass). No preachy speeches either, let the costume and his actions tell that story. And let's see come fights and action sequences to rival the Holy Grail of action movies — Raiders of the Lost Ark. I don't know if the role will limit his career in any way but Hugh Jackman and Tobey Maguire seem to be doing okay.
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They should make a PG-13 Secret Wars Trilogy Animated movie series for their straight to DVD branch with Lionsgate.
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I've been a fan of his ever since I saw Cellular (surprisingly good flick). I really hope he takes the job.
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Do it.
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Mar 19, 2010 7:21:50 PM CDT
Well...it's like choosing the lesser of the given evils...
by drktower108
Not truly excited about the prospect, but it's WAAAAYYYY better than fucking Channing. That dude is a terrible actor. He was the worst part of GI Joe, and everything about GI Joe was absolutely horrible. In all honesty, Captain America is probably be one of the all time hardest roles to cast in comics: The actor has to be athletic, muscular, 6'2ish, blond, blue eyed, young yet rugged, commanding, hold his own against great actors, and be a great actor himself (hopefully). No easy task, especially since Marvel wants to pay the dude 300k.
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But he probably doesn't want to do another Superhero role. He would be an awesome Captain America and the mere subconscious association Watchmen views would make with this 1940s Cap film and the minutemen stuff would only serve to help Joe Johnsons hackery.
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with Joe Johnston helming the first. We'll be lucky if the first Captain America movie doesn't outright bomb on arrival.
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Are there not enough actors in the world?
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to give the role some weight. Mark Valley is the ideal choice. Evans looks 21 year old college kid, not like the leader of the Avengers.
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On the surface he seems like just another pretty boy no-talent, but I liked him in FF and Sunshine. I just hope he plays it straight.
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That guy is the spitting image of the early era Captain America, and his acting chops have improved alot since Starship Troopers.
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If we can't find more than one useful blonde haired, blue-eyed leading man to play a superhero. Steve McQueen shakes his fist at you all.
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Made me think it would be cool to see Evan's human torch alongside Spidey in the reboot. But if he is to be Cap, it could be a LOT worse.
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No one else in history has tried this before, right?
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Seriously. House and Castle are demonstrations of how a good actor can render a mediocre show watchable. Valley totally doesn't do that. He's just part of the mediocrity. And Cap is a story about a skinny kid who gets turned into a supersoldier. Key word: kid. Ideally he should be a scrawny eighteen year old who is filmed for the opening, then bulks up for a few months and finishes the movie. What you want is someone young who can do wise beyond his years. Krasinski could do it, but based on Sunshine (and Not Another Teen Movie-- I know you all just gave up on me, but that is a funny movie, and comedy is ten times harder to do than drama) I think Evans can do it too.
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Have you SEEN the casting for Thor?
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I really really liked "Jim Halpert" for this role. I could really see that as being a beautiful and marketable turn for him and for Marvel. That spin on things is just so unique for film, while being so true to the story of Steve Rogers. That said, Chris Evans is a solid and usable choice... I'd easily throw my support behind him and get excited for the film, but a casting choice like Jim from the office sounds really inspired. I agree heartily that he's the most classically all-American, his banter ability is off the charts, and I'm 100% positive that with hard weight training, he could look sick as Cap. And that's such an authentic choice for a wimp turned super soldier! I was really holding out hope that this would work out... would be a huge cheerleader for that, but definitely approve of Chris Evans... my opinion is so important ;)
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Maybe a bit too old, but has the square jaw and physique of a superhero
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He's the Human Fucking Torch! He's a cool actor but he's more of a rebel than a leader.
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Carol Channing would have been perfect.
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Henchman_01: Were all out of green slime M'Lord
Henchman_02 We are well stocked in Brown Slime
I had my heart set on green slime
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Ryan Reynolds = Hal Jordan = Chris Evans = Captain America. An uninspired casting choice to say the least. How do you go from Edward Norton and Robert Downey Jr. to Chris Evans?
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Mar 19, 2010 7:49:12 PM CDT
Not my first choice, but way better than the other wankers
by ganymede3001
Chris Evans has the charisma to pull it off. I'm sure he's going to shoot up some HGH and get buffed up for the role. I can easily forget that he was in the Fantastic Four, which I saw only once.
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The studio leaked Channing Tatum as a possibility so there would be a groundswell of support for the casting of Evans.
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yeah, he's gonna be fun to be around
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Don't believe me, watch "Sunshine."
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He is the ONLY guy I can picture who fits the bill physically, and as an actor. I've like him since Cellular. And yes, I like cellular, so sue me.
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bad choice. Marvel is fucking up Cap by casting pretty boys that can barely act. Why can't the fans do something to show their displeasure?
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Tatum or any of the other bitches they announced = fail.
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I think this guy has the most potential to do a decent job. For the love of god ANYONE but Channing Tatum.
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Glad this choice was made. He's one of the few young leading American actors who have any balls whatsoever. Question that? Watch Sunshine again. Or for the first time if you're a fucking novice.
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as far as superhero movies goes. Not sure I can see him as Cpt America without seeing The Human Torch first. Not to mention how shitty those FF movies are.
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It had Michelle Yeoh in it
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No problems here with this casting. Infinitely better than any of the other guys that were supposedly up for the part. Not quite the uber-leader that CA is, but he'll do fine.
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when I saw "Not Another Teen Movie" that the guy with whip cream on his nips and crotch would be the next Captain America, I would've said kindly, "fuck off". Seriously this is the best guy Hollywood could find for the leader of the Avengers? Really?
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This sucks. In what world is this guy Captain America? I don't see it at all.
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/swish
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PERFECT for the role, and a MUCH better franchise than the stillborne FF. Chris was a great choice for Johnny Storm, but his role was crushed under the weight of two lame movie. THIS would be a rebirth and fast track to superstar.
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Evans may be a nice enough guy and everything but we're talking about Captain America here!
Christopher Nolan hires Christian Bale (American Psycho) for Batman. Brilliant!
Favreu hired Robert Downey Jr. for Iron Man. I HATED the film but the choice made at least some sense to me at the time because RDJ at least USED to have some real acting chops (and his performances in Zodiac and Kiss Kiss Bang were solid - his last good ones in my personal opinion but that won't matter to any of the fanboys on this site who jerk themselves to Tropic Thunder) before he started mugging for dollars.
But Evans is like hiring one of the Jonas Brothers to play The Punisher.
Captain America needs an actor with gravitas because its already going to be difficult to get most people to take the character seriously since he is more classical old school film serial like character.
Johnston lucked out in the 90's with Bill Campbell.
But Marvel casting Evans makes no sense whatsoever. They could have anyone and the best they could come up with is this guy?
Its insane! Feels more like a choice they made based on just feeling comfortable with the guy because they had worked with him before.
I mean even Jeremy Renner would have made more sense to me than Evans or any of the other guys they considered for that matter. It really makes no sense that they picked Evans. Anyone who though CA had a chance of being a good film at this point should just accept Transformers/G.I. Joe style entertainment at this point. Dammit, Johnston what were you thinking?!!! -
He'd be fine as Cap though.
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not bad, but he's a bit short. how tall is cap in the comics? 6'2"? close enough i guess. dont really know him beyond the ff, but he seemed to be the only one who was properly cast. how hard is it to play the young hothead tho?
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Mar 19, 2010 8:09:43 PM CDT
I would have preferred Evans as Green Lantern akshully.
by royston lodge
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but at least it ain't tater
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...how would he bulk up enough, and ALSO be able to keep playing Jim on The Office?
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i really do. Thought he was great in sunshine and he's got comedic timing as the torch. Not saying Cap is a comic. But it helps with charisma.
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And Krasinski gets it.
Or time traveler 1991 Bill Campbell
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what is sss?
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http://tinyurl.com/2mvqvy
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Michael and Dwight could enter the Iron Man competition and Jim has to save from them inevitable doom.
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hope I'm wrong
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and his gelatinous face
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lesser of evils, yup i'm setteling but he's better than Fuckin Ryan french bitch
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He is going to have Nic Cage head in the next couple of years.
He is a prime candidate for hair restoration.
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Seriously. Sizing up your male superhero candidates? Listen to you. You're in love with these men. By the way Thomas Jane would be hot hot hot for Captain America.
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Bring him to Marvel as Peter Parker or even Reed Richards and I'm there but Steve Rogers? You fucking outta your minds?
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Will BE THE BLACK PANTHER!
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No offense to Mr. Tatum.
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and Superman too.
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Aren't there any men left in Hollywood????
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Until he can learn to act, or at least move the muscles in his brow region.
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Mar 19, 2010 8:28:10 PM CDT
Can we get a guy that looks appropriate to the era PLEASE
by crackfiji42
Chris Evans looks like every other cookie cutter modern pretty boy. The idea of handsome was very different then than it is now. Chris Evans (though I do think he's a good actor) doesn't work for CA
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Mar 19, 2010 8:29:50 PM CDT
Before you rip Evans acting and "gravitas" watch Sunshine.
by dailysportspages
He makes his name as an actor in that movie imo.
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Stink.
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No, he's not the 'greatest pick ever' but he CAN act (Sunshine), he's made films watchable (Fantastic Four, Push) and he's a "bubble actor" so he doesn't command the salary that others do. That's HUGE: Do NOT forget...they only want to pay $300k for the lead of this movie then have them get a take of the back end once it surpasses the budget. So if it flops, Evans only gets the $300k. Bigger stars would command more money.
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My thoughts exactly. Hollywood is void of ruggedness. We need more Harrison Fords dammit!
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if you want to rub one off to Thomas Jane, fine
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I think Evans was the BEST part of FF except for the hotness of Alba, but she's terrible as an actress, at least in FF. Evans has charisma at least.
Casper Van Dien is terrible and should stick to the b movies..not Cap.
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If so, I guess it's okay. This seems like a really "safe" choice to me. A lot of the Marvel casting is getting pretty safe and familiar. Too much so.
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But really, it's sad. When you think of action stars today who would fit the bill of CA today, Matt Damon might be the best option. We're in a sad state in this country when MATT FUCKING DAMON is the best bet for a credible CA actor.
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Something has to kill that monstrosity of a pseudo-franchise.
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I have seen Sunshine and its one of the most overrated science fiction films I've ever seen. Truly AWFUL. And I really don't think its smart for Marvel to go with an actor who's actually been in some films that either no one cared about (Cellular), that fanboys hated (Fantastic Four) and an expensive sci-fi film that basically flopped (Sunshine).
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The guy hasn't done one decent movie. I know very little about the franchise...but I don't see it. He's sort of bland.
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He can act, and has proven himself with mrvel material. I think he can hold his own with Downey and Jackson. He was good in Push, so type-cast his ass and make the fucking movie already! The worst part is waiting for all the setbacks and production bullshit that always seems to take place, and fuck up what could be great comic-to-film flicks!
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Sure, because we all know how bad that's been for Downey
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Finally got around to reading the first 2 comics, and his role in the film is MUCH more expanded and over-the-top than what was in the comic. They completely improved it, and it's got to be one of the top 5 scene in a flick filled with amazing stuff. Glad to hear there's more good stuff for him.
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... they just stepped out of an Abercrombie and Fitch ad are getting all the roles. The days of Dolph and Sam Jones are sorely missed. Hey execs, go for the "unknown" Ryan McPartlin. Surround him with well known actors. Also, he will work for cheap and you can make more money that way.
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You're totally on point with your checkbook comment. Normally I would say that actors are overpaid but I know they are going to spend a shitload on this movie anyway so they might as well pay up for the right actor. Going cheap on Captain America when they're probably going to wind up spending close to 100 mill on the film is just insanity. I wouldn't have said shit about Evans if I thought they were going to make the film on an 80's budget (20-30 mil) but that's not going to happen.
Matt Damon is a good actor but there are plenty of other cheaper folks I can think of who would have been fine for the lead (i.e. Michael C. Hall, Jeremy Renner)
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So Marvel is like, George Lucas in 1976, signing Mark Hamill to do 12 pictures?
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Nice one marvel easily the best choice you could have made
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At the core of this character, you need a guy who can legitimately bark orders around Iron Man, Thor, the Hulk, SHIELD, and the goddamn US Army and get them to follow without hesitation. If you cast a chump just because he's cheap you get...uh, Channing Tatum leading the GI JOE team.
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He would have been perfect as Cap.
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He doesn't look like Captain America to me. At all.
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My desire to participate in this discussion ended when some asswad said he disliked Iron Man. You enjoy those fish heads, you freak.
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Notice how the "toughest" actors in the world are all Brits or Aussies now? Meanwhile, America's current generation "action" heroes are Shia Laboof, Will Smith, and Ryan Reynolds.
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He's not even in my top ten I'd like to see in the role, but jesus, at least it's not Tatum. Now all we need is confirmation that the wings will be present. Cap needs his wings.
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Nuff Said
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And this would worry me with him portraying Captain America. I know, I know actors are supposed to act and his Johnny Storm isn't necessarily all he can do but he just played snarky so well. He doesn't seem to have that 'solid integrity' that shines through in Steve Rogers.
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Hawkeye.
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yeah, why not?
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Some losers will NEVER have sex with a woman.
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I like Michael C Hall a lot. He's a great actor, but I don't think Marvel could, in what is arguably one of their most important properties, cast a dude whose most renown roles to date have been that of an gay guy who ran a funeral home and a serial killer. Not that it would bother me, but I can see why he hasn't been in the running. Instead, Marvel is wanting to get someone on the cheap, and get them young. But that person has to hold their own against established actors and underwear models (which Marvel seems to be going for) isn't going to cut it...
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The deal Marvels offering is much more suited towards an unknown...which I think would be the best choice. No "name" or "almost-name" actor is going to sign a 9 picture deal for the money Marvels offering...they need to find some up and comer who looks exactly like an Alex Ross painting and just let him be typecast for the rest of his life.
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you'd think there was only about 10 actors in hollywood the way these comic book movies get cast these days.Anytime a role comes up, people suggest actors who have already played a superheroGreen Lantern? just get the guy who played Deadpool, doesn't matter. Put him up for the Flash while we're at it.And he'll still play Deadpool in another movie right?Who should play Captain America? of course, the guy who already played the Human Torch, no one will remember.I vote Eric Bana to play Sub-Mariner when that comes up and, Christian Bale for Superman, Robert Downey Jr for Dr Strange blah blah blah
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'Nuff said!
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Evans is a good actor but placing him in this role will be to confusing in the long run I believe.
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I liked Chris Evans in Fantastic Four but his chops seem better suited for the same types of roles that Ryan Reynolds would land in the super hero genre. Not to say he wouldn't pull of Cap but with Robert Downey Jr. and Sam Jackson in the mix it didn't seem they'd have to go the younger route for Cap.
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He looks like Steve Rogers before the Super Soldier serum. Fortunately, there's real life super soldier serum. 'ROID RAGE!
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I can't wait til they cast Michael Chiklis as the new spiderman!!
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'nuff said. Accept the role.
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from Not another teen movie. Na.. actually he might work. My favorite choice was robin williams.
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Sorry to jack the thread, but this is just too good: http://www.thehighdefinite.com/2010/03/wabbit-season/
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Admit it. If this guy was up for Bucky no one would even blink. C'mon Hollywood. You can do better than this.
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Cause you're sounding pretty hollow in your effusive praise right now. Evans isnt as bad as many of their other choices, but the guy is FAR from perfect. And its not like he's a Ryan Gosling level talent like you make him sound. Seriously man, I would like to see SOME sort of support for your assessment.
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I've never heard of this guy. So good luck with that Marvel.
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This was a very good choice. Chris Evans is way under rated and Sunshine proved that. And whoever thought RDJ was a bad choice for Tony Stark, you have your head up your ass. It wasn't even a stretch for him. He was perfect. I hope this works out.
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EAT GIANT GELATINIOUS FACE
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Evans is talented (recheck Sunshine, guys) AND was the very best thing of the Fantastic Four movies. Happy for him, and happy for the project.
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says that Chris Evans signed for an Anna Faris comedy LAST WEEK and he signed on for the lead role in a health care legal drama THIS WEEK so if Captain America starts shooting in a MONTH when would he be shooting those other two movies? RT seems to think this makes him unavailable to play Cap.
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Ok, so he's not a child but come on, Captain America is a leader, a patriarch, not a teeny pin up. Not giving this role to someone with maturity and presence is a huge mistake.
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There are 50 other people that are better than him. Nothing against Evans, he's okay, but they can do better. I'm a die hard Cap fan, I guess I'm just hard to please....
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Mar 19, 2010 10:11:37 PM CDT
Is everyone forgetting that Cap is SUPPOSED to be young?
by flickchick85
Geez, this is an origin story people! Yes, compared to RDJ, he sure as hell SHOULD be a "kid."
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when they do scenes together.
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i'm tired of disappointment.
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As much as I want to see a John Hamm or Thomas Jane or Aaron Eckhart type in the role, they're gonna go with a younger actor. I just wish the younger actor would've been Chris Pine.
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And that is hard to find in a very young man. But Evans is not VERY young, he's approaching 30 and that age is fine, it's his lack of leadership presence that I take issue with. I don't see geniuses like Tony Stark and Bruce Banner, played by two of the best actors in their generation, taking this guys orders. And if that doesn't fit then you might as well not even make an Avengers movie. I would honestly rather never see an Avengers film than one in which Cap doesn't assume his proper place believably.
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This is an incredible turn of events. Of EVERYONE whose name has been dropped as being considered for the role of Cap, Evans is the ONLY one that, to me anyway, seemed right for the role. If he takes it, then this guy will quickly shoot into the ranks of the A-listers, and he will be able to write his own ticket. I am waiting with high hopes for this to be finalized!
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Mar 19, 2010 10:31:57 PM CDT
Matvel's not only going to ruin Cap with this, but also their wh
by steverodgers5
"And you can't say they didn't offer the role to the best man for the job either"
Uhh, YES we can actually! This role should have went to someone who looks and sounds like a man, not some rebellious kid. That's why you see suggestions like Mark Valley and Nathan Fillion on the comic book sites. This whole idea of having to cast a twenty something in the role is fricken retarded. When he is given the super soldier serum his whole body is changed, physically into a grown man i.e he's not an ordinary young fresh faced soldier recruit. Thus he doesn't need to look like a fricken johnny storm!...
And concerning that. If any of you think that's it's alright to cast an actor who's already played a starring role in a marvel comic adaption, then you're a fucking idiot. Even if Evans was right for the role, which he most certainly isn't, no Marvel comics fan who watches this is gonna be able to disassociate Evans from being the Human Torch. Due to the simple fact that they exist in the same comic book world, and have done so for the last 45 years! It doesn't matter if the fox's FF movies won't cross over with marvel films. Any comic book fan watching will still be thinking of it as the marvel universe. Or to put it another way. Fox's X-films won't cross over with the marvel studio films, but would that make it okay to cast Hugh Jackman as Bruce Banner? Or any other Avengers character? No! It wouldn't. Because in the back of your mind you're still going to see them as someone else in the Marvel film worlds. This is just so fuckin stupid, on so many levels. They're not just ruining Cap with this, (No way does Evans have the gravitas for this role. Cap's not supposed to look cocky. He's an old school hero..)But they're also destroying the believability of the Avengers movies as well. God, I can't believe some of you folks can't even see this.. This really ranks of desperation on Marvel's part. And it's going to destroy these movies!! -
That's why I'd gladly take Chris Pine in the role. He's one of the only late 20's/early 30's actors who somewhat fit the bill that I could see believably barking orders at those guys. More so, at least, than Phillipe and Tatum and some of the other names I've heard mentioned.
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He fits into the old styles of the early to mid 20th century well (watch "Leatherheads") and I thought he would be interesting and charming in the role. I think he would have looked the part by the time the movie came out. I like Evans quite a bit, though. He's a decent actor and has a good screen presence. He was by far the only interesting thing in FF (not even Chiklis could wring an iota of value from that crapfest) and it would be nice to see him get his due. But I don't see him as Captain America. Whoever suggested him for The Flash was onto something.
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No doubt the best of the bunch.
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Damn the lack of an edit button on this site!
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News is from 1 hour ago so looks like a done deal..
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As The Human Torch, he was perfect but that's where it stops for him. No matter who gets cast as Captain America, the costume is going to make that actor look ridiculously stupid on film.
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Pine is a real actor, and there is no way he wants to be tied to two franchises playing two heroic captains. The guy would be perfect though.
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Give Evans some credit. Yes, he p[layed a cocky smart-ass in the two FF movies (the ONLY thing about them that was good, by the way), but I have seen him in other films, and I think that, if the part is written correctly, he has the ability to bring Cap to red, white and blue life. Much of the negativity being tossed on Evans here is not due to Evans himself, but what many see as how this character should be, and THAT starts with the script, not the actor. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt-i.e. that he has the talent to make Captain America and the Human Torch two completely different characters, played different ways. I doubt VERY seriously that he will play the role as a smarmy smart-aleck, because I doubt that the role won't be written that way. This all stinks of comic book-to-movie-controversies of the past. Remember the stink that was put up when Michael Keaton was announced as Batman, or Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man. They both showed all the nay-sayers how wrong they were, and I bet Chris Evans will do the same. This is in the hands of MARVEL, not some piss-ant studio who lives to fuck with the fan community. Joe Johnston-the director-knows how to bring something like this to life, and Marvel wouldn't have picked him if they weren't reasonably sure he could do it right. And the same goes for Chris Evans in the starring role. If an actor has the talent to play two different roles in (somewhat) similar genre films, then what's the problem? I don't hear anyone bitching about Harrison Ford playing Indiana Jones AND Han Solo. This will be Chris Evans' moment to shine, and I, for one, think that he more than deserves the shot. And I think that it's a terrific choice, and I will withhold any further judgment until I see how he is in the film. GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE fer christsakes!
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Chris Evans has this smart-alec-y demeanor to him that doesn't quite fit Cap. Visually he's a very good fit, and he *can* act. I just hope he can keep that attitude of his in check. For some roles it fits perfectly - like Human Torch, but Captain America? That dude's ALL business. He just doesn't joke around. And consider this - Captain America is the LEADER of the Avengers. Can you picture Chris Evans acting as a team leader of such a powerful team? I guess we'll see. Still better than the weaker actors being considered earlier. I'm mildly optimistic. I still feel Jensen Ackles is the perfect choice.
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What kind of brutal idiocy is that about? They do have a magical new invention, no really it revolutionized the hair industry, its called DYE! Check it out. Im sure there is some darker haired actor out there perfect for this role who cant get fucking seen because his "darker" look isnt right. Thats honestly how these people operate.
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He would've been a great choice, too. But actually, I find Evans to be very similar to Pine in that they're both talented actors (proven in smaller films) who'd been stuck in some crappy mainstream fare (though with Pine it was the rom-coms, and with Evans it was FF), but who have the confidence and charisma to be leading men given the right role. I really think this might finally be the right role for Evans. He IS capable of being a serious actor (as evident in Sunshine, Street Kings, and Fierce People), and it's about time he got to show that in one of his mainstream films. He's definitely got the presence needed to not disappear whenever RDJ is on screen, too.
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Mar 19, 2010 11:01:05 PM CDT
Industrykiller why am I not surprised you don't like it.
by ganymede3001
I mean, you do hate 99.9% of everything made. It's kinda sad that you're right 90% of the time, but this time isn't one of them. We've actually never seen Chris Evans be allowed to play an alpha male on screen. I believe the kid has the range and talent to pull it off.
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He looks like Captain America. Who cares if he's old. He'll look perfect standing next to the likes of Robert Downey Jr.
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Has Marvel established whether they will have Captain America's abilities from the comic like being able to lift half a ton and have enhanced speed?
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It's widely known that Heath Ledger's hair was, in fact, BLONDE, not GREEN, before they cast him as the Joker.
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captain awesome from Chuck would be a good choice.
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After watching Kings, he seems to really fit the bill for Cap if they're going down the youthful Steve Rogers.
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and sources Hollywood reporter ...
but I just read THR and their article only states he was offered and hasn't accepted..So what is it that WENN knows that THR hasn't reported yet...sounds like somebody jumped the gun....I hope they don't screw this great opportunity up as the suits usually find a way just like life..
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Evans taking on Cap, and likely nothing else, will never surpass the ballyhoo over Ledger's Joker casting -- whose performance is now arguably the most memorable of the previous decade.
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How many people here thought he would be great as Capt Kirk went it was announced? Seriously? It's funny that people are mentioning his name here for CA. Just playing devil's advocate, but really...Nobody liked him until he played THAT part of Kirk on screen. I'm not exactly happy with Evans being CA, but I still believe CA is one of the hardest roles to cast in the comic book world. There isn't a perfect choice for this character.
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... Although he's a nice actor (nicer than he's usually given credit too, in my opinion), and no doubt the only single thing that worked in both FANTASTIC4 movies (he did for the Human Torch what most comic books couldn't), I still have a hard time seeing him as the Cap.
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... Although he's a nice actor (nicer than he's usually given credit too, in my opinion), and no doubt the only single thing that worked in both FANTASTIC4 movies (he did for the Human Torch what most comic books couldn't), I still have a hard time seeing him as the Cap.
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Killed it in Sunshine...seems like the best possible option considering the names we have been hearing...do it to it.
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Or the Bucky incarnation of cap. But Steve? With a voice that can command a god?
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No one knew what we were gonna get with Chris Pine. It was hard for people to imagine anyone nailing the charm and bravado of the young Shatner character. But he did! Now people have seen him and know he can pull off that kind of leadership/gravitas. That's why his name gets mentioned NOW. Unfortunately, not too many folks know Evans outside of the FF movies. But those who've seen SUNSHINE know he can do the non-smarmy, subdued guy, just as anyone who has seen Ryan Reynolds in THE NINES and a couple other indies knows he can play a toned down, non-Van Wilder-like Green Lantern.
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Why would they touch ANYTHING related to those horrid, B-movie Fantastic Four movies?? They're jinxing themselves... and since when does Chris Evans have "acting chops"? People are talking about him as if he was a young Brando or some shit. They really just need to cast a relative unknown... I mean what's next? Michael Chiklis as Hawkeye? How about Ioan Gruffudd as Giant Man? Evans was the best thing about those crappy FF movies... but that's it. To me, he'll never wash the stink off from those two turds.
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Evyone else is shorter, thinner, and has less screen presence than our lord god Bale so stop complaining already. Evans' turn in Sunshine pretty much saved the movie for me. He WAS the leader on that ship, even though he was 3rd in command. He owned that movie. Evans is pretty big already, if he puts on 15 pounds and they wardrobe him right, he will look the part. And he will have no problems with Nortons version of Banner, he plays him like an EMO anyway. And no one upstages Downey's Stark, thats the point. Have Captain American get irritated because Stark won't listen.. This will work. Nice choice. Take the part Evans.
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Seriously, I want to know! He would've made a perfect Capt. America & Thor! This is absolute b*llsh*t
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Seriously? Wisely offers? Jesus this site kisses ass to a level I can't believe. Chris Evans made the Human Torch totally unlikeable, he was awful in Push but somehow he's a great choice for Captain America?
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He's fast becoming another Paul Walker and what better cure than another superhero franchise?
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1. Alexander Skarsgard
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Bulk him up a bit and he's good to go.
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Seems weird. He was a compelling "light" actor in the FF films, which were garbage, but I'm not sure why this is news you would feel is good. It's not bad news, I'd take him over Channing "I'm a block of wood on steroids" Tatum, but that's damning with faint praise - I'd take Sean Williams Scott as Captain America over Channing Tatum.Chris Pine would be a horrible choice. WTF is with all these douchey young actors being called up to play Cap? What next, Shia LaBeouf? How about using someone who hasn't been portraying a complete tool in his last few movies?
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They don't want an actor who will be too old to play the part by the time they get to a sequel. They want a young Steve Rogers, fresh off the super-soldier serum needle.
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Mar 20, 2010 12:04:00 AM CDT
Did Doogie Howser get proper consideration? Makes as much sense
by alesandro
I have a visions of Chris O'Donnell in a nipple-Robin suit all of a sudden. Bring on the nipple Cap suit... in my opinion, Marvel's teetering on the edge of officially jumping the shark... after just 2 solid movie efforts.
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You do know there's a difference between an actor actually being "a tool", and playing one on TV right? Note to all actors everywhere: Never accept a role where you're portrayed in any negative light, whatsoever!! PEOPLE WILL THINK THAT'S REALLY YOU!
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Mar 20, 2010 12:08:39 AM CDT
Of course I can say they didn't offer the role to the best man f
by amnesiac108
That's a stupid thing to say.
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were McPartlin or Evans. Im good with Evans. Dude can act. And as far as Im concerned FF never happened.
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I didn't say they WERE tools, I said they PORTRAYED them. You quoted it, no less. I don't know jack shit about any of them personally - except some weird shit about Shia's thing for his mom, but that's beside the point - but there's a reason they cast these actors to play douche nozzles, they are good at it, naturals in conveying douchery.
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According to HitFix's "Breaking News"
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Chris Evans is decent. Of all the names that were "in consideration" or "screen testing", I was kinda hoping for Mike Vogel myself. But overall, I still think they're going too young for the role. To the person who said 'the guy from HUMAN TARGET' should be Cap?...Excellent idea! And to the other person who said they would've liked Chris Evans as Green Lantern?...I would totally agree if they were casting Kyle Raynor, but not Hal Jordan... So maybe there's room for that down the road (if Evans actually turns down Captain America).
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Sure, Mark Valley is 46...but Robert Downey, Jr. is 45 and that's not a problem. I understand they want a younger Steve Rogers, but you gotta admit it's gonna be bizarre seeing Chris Evans as Cap more or less bossing RDJ as Iron Man around in an Avengers movie. Steve Rogers is a young guy going into the Super Soldier program, but it more or less changes that young guy into a grown man (kinda) once the Serum kicks in. That's not to say it "ages" him, but it certainly transforms him.
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I do, I really really do. I don't hate Chris Evans and I really don't mean to slag the guy, but I really love that Marvel is trying to put together this world and I want it's linchpin to be note perfect. I honestly think it's puts the whole thing in jeopardy if Cap isnt done right and I want them to explore EVERY option, TAKE THEIR TIME, and if that means delaying production then I hope they would be willing to do that even know Im cynical and smart enough to know they won't. Maybe Evans will be good, but let's not start suckin' each others dicks just yet.
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Mar 20, 2010 12:32:17 AM CDT
Remember Matthew Settle's Capt. Spiers in Band of Brothers?
by industrykiller!
He was the one who it was rumored shot all the German prisoners. That's the kind of looks, raw intensity, and innate leadership qualities i want my Captain AMerica to have. Find a guy like that, he's gotta be out there somewhere, and NO MATTER HIS HAIR COLOR or clout in the industry, hire him.
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that doesn't mean confirmed, while it looks likely no one is saying its done....at least I hope not.
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Evans! Take the freaking part-I command you! The Box has spoken.
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Mar 20, 2010 12:40:40 AM CDT
BEST FUCKING CASTING IDEA EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by illuminate
I grew up reading Captain America and have hundreds of Cap comics. Here's the deal about Captain America from someone who knows the character well, he is like Superman and can get boring when compared to other Marvel Characters like Spider-man. If you just cast a regular pretty boy actor who has no personality that does not stand out, then you run the risk of a movie that bombs at the box office. Casting Will Smith was skipped over although it's a great concept. The next best thing is Chris Evans since THE MAN HAS DEPTH. Captain America is a square, but if Chris Evans gives the character subtle smirks and subtle naughtiness while still sticking to who Captain America is than the character will have the depth that audiences will be looking for. That's if the director does not hold him back from doing that. MARVEL NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT JOE JOHNSTON IS KEPT ON A FUCKING LEASH. THE ASSHOLE WHO DIRECTED THE ROCKETEER COULD MAKE CAPTAIN AMERICA A BORING SQUARE JUST LIKE THE ROCKETEER WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very bad choice for director. Let's hope the dipshit has grown as a director since then. If Chris Evan does not accept the part than he is a fucking moron and he deserves to be a b-list actor for the rest of his life. Captain America was at his best in the comics when he was fighting Super-Patriot since that guy was stronger than cap and fucking nuts so it made for a good story. I don't agree about the golden age Avengers being in the script because they are boring, so I hope that is just a rumor. Common Marvel think summer blockbuster and edgy. You have to go edgy with Captain America otherwise you run the risk of him becoming an uptight square that nobody likes or wants to watch. I'm crossing my finger for Chris Evans. This is the first good news. Since, Chris Evans has that comedic depth, bad boy edge and range.
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Im sorry Illuminate I question your understanding of the character if thats what you are hoping Evans will bring to the table. That's not Cap, you are just straight up wrong about that. Evans already has that natural wise ass quality that what he should do is play against it and let it come out behind the eyes if anything. And when you say WIll SMith would have been a good idea I cant take you seriously. Smith is a mediocre narcissistic actor, truly a hack. I cannot imagine the terror that would be wrought upon the role with him playing.
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Mar 20, 2010 12:50:42 AM CDT
DON'T BE FUCKING STUPID MARVEL EXECS AT THE MOVIE STUDIO!!!!!!!!
by illuminate
I know that Cap has to be rated pg-13. However, this is the one Marvel movie that has to be the edgiest since Cap is such a square. I would put plenty of tits and ass in it. Also, make it as violent as possible if you guys want to make the money.
As for Chris Evans, first instanct was, “he's the Human Torch” and the only actor in Fantastic Four that did justice to the character. However, he is so perfect for Cap that it works. I just read some of the other posts and Channing Tatum is likable, but he was boring in G.I. Joe. I agree with everyone, Evans is the best choice. Offer him more money if you have to. It's all down hill if you have to offer Cap to other people. -
I realize you never actually said they were tools. The world portrayed rung a few bells... No, I just put two and two together really because otherwise, your logic is a little retarded. A guy who plays a douche in one movie, can't play a role model in another? A guy who portrays a cold blooded hitman can't also portray Ghandhi? It's a very silly way of thinking.
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would be my choice if he was even ever considered. he has the build and has charisma and could launch him into stardom.
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has charisma. He has played cocky and straightedge. He can do it. EVANS...TAKE IT!
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I mean, I could believe Couture as an iconic, hardened, fought off the nazis in the 40s kinda guy. He looks like a leader. Captain America is like Superman. He has to be a MAN. Randy Couture is a man. Chris Evans is a boy. I really don't care who gets cast for this movie because it has a %1 chance of actually working, but whoever you pick for it...pick a man. Not a boy.
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IndustryKiller,
Umm, read my post again, I know who Captain America is. So, are you saying that you prefer Captain America to be a square like he is sometimes in the Avengers and his regular comic? I'm glad you are not directing this movie. Smith has charisma and personality. Smith would have added the political story of WW racism and etc to the story by adding more layers. But, that argument is irrelevant since they are no longer looking at him. I love Captain America and know him better than you mother fucker if you want to have a quiz on it. Your argument is flawed and I know what I'm talking about so shut the fuck up. Come up with argument that has logical facts and that based on none assumptions then I will talk to you. -
Ignore my typos everyone, I was typing fast since I have shit to do. Sorry. ; )
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He can't. FUCKING. ACT.
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Would you people get the fuck over it already? Dont get me wrong its a good movie. Hell ,its a SOLID picture which is more than I can say for a lot of movies. But the fanaticism has to stop. You people who cant stfu about Sunshine are borderline about to host a convention. Oh and btw, Chris Evans wasn't good in it. In fact IDK WTF MR.B is talking about because he hasn't been good in much of anything(IE Nothin' at all)Frankly, He isn't talented.
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and go straight to Mr. Brock Lesner. I mean if we're going to cast this movie like 3rd graders, we might as well go all out, right?
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can't act and he also sounds like Minnie Mouse when he speaks. Looks ain't everything, people.
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Or is he too old? Boy, it's a shame that they don't cast guys like Dolph Lundgren who can't deliver a simple line of dialogue convincingly anymore (well, except if it's Channing Tatum! Wokka Wokka!!!)
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Chris Evans is NOT the best choice. The main problem is that he's already well-known for playing ANOTHER Marvel hero, The Human Torch, in two recent films. It'll simply look confusing and stupid, as if Marvel's unable to find two blond actors in a town FILLED with them.Now, I don't watch "Chuck," so when everyone was screaming "Capt. Awesome" in regards to playing Capt. America, I was wondering, "Who the heck is THAT?" but just looking at him on the interwebs, I have to agree: He'd be perfect for the role! He's relatively unknown, can act and has charisma, LOOKS the part, plus is in great shape and isn't already known for a similar role that will confuse audiences!Picking Evans for Cap would be a STUPID choice. How many kids and adults will be wondering why the Human Torch is dressed as Capt. America? Especially if they end up having the ORIGINAL Torch in their version of the Invaders during the film???Stop being stupid, Marvel, and just hire Captain Awesome. From one Capt. A to another... how much more obvious does it have to be spelled out for you??? Dopes! >:(
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...but he's not so right for Cap. He lacks that square-jawed, straight-shooting quality that Jack Kirby ingrained so perfectly in every frame of Cap's portrayal. By the way, the second FF movie was almost redeemed for me by the beautiful rendering of the Silver Surfer (Morpheus did not manage to pull off the voice however). And Evans gave us at least one thrilling FF iconic moment when he dropped off the side of the Baxter Building and yelled "Flame on!" to begin the aerial chase with the Surfer. That scene alone made the movie worthwhile for me. Anyway, I like Chris Pine for Captain America but I would have the same problem separating him from Captain Kirk as I would with Evans as the Torch. A couple of other casting ideas: Pierce Brosnan as Reed Richards (I would have loved to see him as the Prisoner too), and Jon Hamm is the one and the only choice for a rebooted Superman, especially if it's given
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...would be a kick ass Conan. If he could act. But that is a spectacularly delusional casting pick for Captain America on many different levels. You might as well suggest Nathan Fillion, Bruce Campbell and Daniel Day Lewis while you're at it.
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I'm very surprised that they didn't just end up trying Will Smith. I guarantee if it wasn't Marvel, who is obviously being careful with maintaining at least the very basic identities of their franchises, that Smith would have gotten the role. Box office bank, a step forward in the race issue, and brings a wider audience to comic books in general. Oh, and he's talented. Would have been a fine choice too.
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Capt. America is as white as Superman. I'm black and I wouldn't watch a Cap movie starring a black man anymore than I'd watch a Luke Cage film starring someone white.Sometimes, politically-correct casting is just STUPID, pure and simple. Re-watch Smith's "Wild, wild West" as a reminder.
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MANY people will see Chris Evans in a Marvel superhero movie and immediately assume that he's playing the Torch, just like they'd assume Tobey Maguire was playing Peter Parker if he showed up in the new Iron Man flick. Needlessly confusing the audience, who AREN'T comic book geeks, simply because of lazy casting is foolish, can easily annoy people and a box office risk. Better to avoid it altogether simply by picking another actor out of the vast sea of them in Hollywood. It's really not that hard.
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Did anyone wonder how John McClain fought cyber-terrorism after he already was shot in the chest in The Sixth Sense?
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Yes, I'm sure there will be some confusion. I hardly think it will negatively affect the film.
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...if he wasn't already established as a different Marvel superhero. *sigh*
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Because the general movie-going public doesn't really give a shit about Chris Evans. They might fleetingly remember him from Fantastic Four or, an even smaller percentage, from Sunshine. No one's going to wonder why he isn't yelling, "Flame on". All the general public is going to remember is the name Captain America because it resonates much more than the name Chris Evans. You wanna talk confusion? Casting Will Smith as Cap would cause much more than some basically no-name actor.
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Avengers! Bring Me My Support Stockings!
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Mar 20, 2010 2:22:35 AM CDT
Since the 12 & under crowed loved FF, this will help B.O returns
by ganymede3001
Now the kiddies will see this movie in droves. This movie needs all the help it can get.
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Just throwing it out there
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Wouldn't that mean there would be two Human Torches in the same movie?
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I mean with Jonas brothers,that guy from the Office and GIJOE and those other nobodies,Evans sounds like the perfect choice, first he starts skinny and all for Steve Rogerrs before the Super Serum and then he gets Captain Americas body training!!!
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just because a couple of you hacks at this site think it's a WISE choice doesn't mean that it is, in fact, a wise choice. sure it might be ok, but i think you guys are trying to exercise whatever pull you think you have with this to put things in line with your own personal opinions. arg!
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Here's the problem with Marvel Black superheros. Most of them are largely unknown, and they were created outside of the golden age of comics, since most were created in the 80's and 90's, characters most people never heard of. So it's logical for them to diversify some of the more well known characters. I do foresee "Patriot" eventually showing up somewhere in the C.A trilogy. He's the Grandson of Isaiah Bradley,(the black C.A)
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is going to be hard to embrace
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Danny DeVito for Captain America.
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More then his acting chops being poor. Seriously, Evans has made it it in Hollywood. Now he started young around 21 I believe, so he got the roles that played with his age. Movies made for a youthful demographic that was just popcorc flicks. He worked with what he was given. Evans is nearing 30, he's coming into himself as actor, so more roles of merit will come his way hopefully. The guy is a decent actor and honestly we haven't seen him is a role where could display his acting chops. I'm not saying Cap will be the role that will showcase his skills but he is the best choice I've heard.
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This guy was an ANNOYING JACKASS in those terrible Fantastic Four movies. Hope he can change it up for this one.
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Ryan McPartlin, he's the perfect Captain America.
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I think another actor couldv'e been dfound to fit the bill of Cap more. Evans just doesn't scream the best choice for Captain America to me out of all the actors in Hollywood. Another problem I had is that he was Human Torch. That is a no no, well to us comic fans it is. Marvel should know better. Also Evans isn't a tall dude. Even with all that being said I can live with him as Cap and I certainly won't raise a stink if he accepts the role. He is by far the best choice that we've heard mentioned. I would've like Garret Hedlund over Evans because of his size but based off what i've seen of both guys, Evans is the better actor.
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Everyone who keeps saying that they're considering a "kid" for Captain America isn't thinking things through. Regardless of whether it was going to Evans, Tatum or any other guy that's been rumored so far, they would have ALWAYS cast a young actor to play Cap, because that's how that character is written. It's an origin story and Cap started out as a young soldier.
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Mar 20, 2010 4:09:25 AM CDT
Huh. Let me know who actually makes the deal. Then I'll care.
by dogsoup
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Yes, im being sarcastic...And yes, of COURSE anyone would take this guy over Tatum. I'd settle for Evans.
Should we HAVE to though? Should we HAVE to settle? Cuz of what, corporate cheapness? And what's this '10 year old' bullshit.
Are all the people that dug Iron Man 10? As soon as i found out Downey Jr. was Tony Stark, they(Marvel)had my attention, when i found out JEFF BRIDGES was in it too, they had my money.
Iron Man 2, i would see that shit anyway, since 1 was so good and Downey and Favreau returns.
BUT, it also has Mickey Rourke, Don Cheadle, Sam Rockwell, Sam Jackson and Scarletts assetts in a SHIELD catsuit.(Not to mention AC/DC doing the soundtrack like on Maximum overdrive!)
Build this movie RIGHT Marvel and the audience WILL come.
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Michael Fassbender as Cap.
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That seemed like more of an exciting title than this one.
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He'd be wonderful, but he's British, isn't he? There would be a huge geek backlash!
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I thought as much but surely us geeks can see past that, Chris Evans? surely these desperate times call for desperate measure's. He may be British but he is perfect.
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cocky smart ass and not a stoic, powerful leader? Because the former is far more believable than the latter. This guy couldn't pass for the leader of a platoon let alone the Avengers. Marvel officially jumped the shark.
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But could be a very decent UNION JACK.
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There have been plenty of actor's playing roles outside of their country of origin.
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Why piss fans of characters off needlessly? Why change established shit?
A black superhero? Just for the sake of him/her being black? That's pretty shallow. I want a good story, faithfulness to the characters and some awesome action too.
If your with me on that, then Join the Campaign for a BLACK PANTHER movie for fuck sakes. Sci-Fi action epic (w some drama and romance)set and filmed in Africa.
http://tinyurl.com/y89sgyc
I would MUCH rather see THIS being made.
I nominate Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (Adabesi from Oz and Lost) as T'Challa, yeah, yeah, he was in GI Turd too but so was Dennis Quaid. Actors gotta eat!
AND according to THIS news item: (From Stan-the Man Lee himself)
http://tinyurl.com/y89sgyc
He just might get it! He wants the role too. Perfect casting i say. Then Marvel can put Panther in Avengers 2.
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I agree. Just dont see him as Cap though. Sorry.
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Hannible King / Deadpool..
It's happening again!! BRAIN CAN'T PROCESS THIS!!
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There's no grasp of the character. Just cast a someone who can bring in the tween audience. It's like they thought they were casting Ben 10. Hey assholes, Captain America is a patriarch. Evans doesn't even look like his balls dropped yet.
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Since it's fun: Michael C Hall/Dexter IS Matt Murdock/Daredevil, in the reboot.
Jensen Ackles IS Danny Ketch aka Ghostrider 2.0, when)they make Ghostrider 2. And Jeremy Renner IS, of course, the perfect HAWKEYE. He even got approached by Marvel for that character too. -
Batman=Bale(Of course)
Superman=Jon Hamm
Wonderwoman=Lucy Lawless
The Flash=Sean William Scott
Martian Manhunter=Vin Diesel
Jon Stewart Green Lantern=Will Smith
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What the fuck? Who's going to be Red Skull? Alfred Molina?
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that so many people agree with this choice (if it comes to fruition). Not that Evans is bad or anything, but he just naturally has that goofball look and demeanor, like Seann William Scott. I am open to it, of course, because there is always a chance something will turn out. SO many people hated on Ledger as the Ace of Knaves, and look at that. At the same time, though, Ledger hadn't been in or done poorly in his previous roles that would illicit too much criticism. That's just one example of course, but I'm just saying I will be very surprised if he pules off the integrity of Cap A.
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wants 42 year old Lucy Lawless to play Wonder Woman. fantasize about cougars, much?
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Because of the Tatum scare.
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Mar 20, 2010 5:53:35 AM CDT
He was the only halfway charismatic part of F4
by anything but tangerines
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That is all
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Is like casting a Batman that could pass for Robin. Yup, this is like casting Chris O'Donnel to play Bruce Wayne back in 1995.
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BUT EVERYWHERE!!!
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Im 34, 42 ain't old. Trust me.
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That's like saying the cherry fragment is the best part of a stale fruit cake. Who gives a shit?
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(Starring Lucy Lawless)
"Welcome, to an amazonian fantasy island. Where uberfit women live in peace and harmony without men. Until one day...
A military man-jerk pilot crashes his plane into their paradise.
Bill Paxton as the jerk pilot.
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Would be interesting, but he's a little old for Cap. I think CHris Evans might work although Krasinsky is an interesting idea. Casper ven Dein? That guy has the acting ability of a frozen dog turd. The tarzan movie he did was about as bad as they get.
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What a shock. I pray this Will Smith craze will be over soon.
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Steve Rogers was born in July of 1917 and didn't become Captain America until early in 1940 which would make him 22 years old. Evans could pass for that. Cap gets frozen in 1945 making him around 27-28 and right in the ballpark for Evans' real age.
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Dangit, DC, you slow moving mutherfucker!!!
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Then I rubbed the sleep from my eyes and reread it. Ugh. I fucking hate Chris Evans. So hammy. Why is Marvel trying to fuck up the movie I'm most excited to see from them?!
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Y'know Chris Nolan is rebooting Superman right? So would that make it okay for him to cast Christian Bale as Jimmy Olsen? Or as even fricken Superman? Heck, since he likes his two favourite actors so much, why not throw in Michael Caine as Perry White? Nolan's already said that the Superman film isn't supposed to exist in the same world/continuity as his Batman films. So according to you fricken idiots that should make it all right then. After all they're both actors, so they can play different parts right? God damn you lot are fricken morons!!!
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Let's cast Ryan Reynolds as the Flash, and Green arrow, as well as Green Lantern. Because they're different movies right? Why would it matter about those silly comic books where they all exist in the same world?
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Evans was fine in Push, but Krasinski would bring more character to the role.
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This is like JJ Abrams saying:- "We need a charasmatic actor to play Khan for this Star Trek sequel. Hmm, y'know we already said this is an alternative universe, let's cast Patrick Stewart. He was really popular with the geek crowd in those Next Generation stories, so they'll love this casting!" Can you see what I'm saying yet?..Idiots!
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Mar 20, 2010 7:48:50 AM CDT
I really don't understand all this love for Krasinski
by bruce of all trades
Really? John Krasinski? What does this guy have that's so special? Regardless of his body type, his face is just begging to be punched. He doesn't really come off as much of a tough guy. I guess people are in love with him so much because he's not the usual pretty boy actor studio choice. Or there are just a lot of fans of The Office around. No disrespect to anyone, btw.
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Yes, the guy from the Hangover.
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Chris Evans is fine but not quite right for the role; I'd only take him if it was a choice between him or fucking Channing Tatum.
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What was all that crap about casting someone who wouldn't be confused with another role? So they cast someone who has already played a Marvel superhero? BRAIN... HURTS... MUST... KILL... PAIN
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Just because someone played 'the human torch' in two films that went largely unseen (which is why it's being rebooted), he can't play Cpt. America in a piece that will primarily take place in 1942? Are you really that fucking stupid? Or just a joyless cunt? Should Harrison Ford have passed on Indiana Jones since he was Han Solo first? Do tell...you fucking rancid lactating tit.
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Evans was one of the few highlights in the NOT EVEN REMOTELY FANTASTIC FOUR. However, not the guy for Captain America.
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Honestly, seeing all the previous candidates that Marvel had been thinking of, and possibly settling for Chris Evans. . .why not? Hell, it could have been much, much worse. At least the studio bigwigs avoided the REALLY terrible actors.
Although, I'm secretly still hoping that Jensen Ackles or Mark Valley get the role. Many of you think that Mark Valley's too old, but hell, if Disney can digitally de-age Jeff Bridges as Clu in Tron Legacy, they could very well do the same thing to make Mark Valley look like a raw recruit when he starts off. I mean, hell. . .even regular makeup would do wonders in making Valley look younger, if need be. -
I hated both FF films but you can't call them "largely unseen." The first one had worldwide gross of $330,579,719. The second $289,047,763.
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But what about McConaughey? I dunno, just thinkin'. I can see both sides of the argument with that guy. He was pretty badass in Reign of Fire. Not exactly crazy about Cap as a babyfaced Evans. I'm still Team Eckhart.
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All I've seen from this guy are some snarky characters like the human torch and that PUSH movie, so its hard to imagine him as the Captain. He should exude confidence and nobility which I dont see coming from this guy. Maybe they know something I dont though, so I'll remain hopeful.
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He should be fine. I still want to see Matthew Fox playing the cap.
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It's the best we're gonna get. Although, I still think Scott Speedman would be ideal.
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shudder. not hoping for much from capt movie now.
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Illuminate, you are:
1) The dumbest motherfucker that ever posted anything in here. (which says a lot)
2) Clueless as to what makes Cap such an icon. Here's a hint: He *IS* a square...
or
3) Working for Marvel.
Are you kidding me with this "subtle smirks and subtle naughtiness" from Cap?? Only someone who has never read a Cap story can suggest such a pansy-ass demeanor for Captain Fucking America. Not to mention you like the Will Smith idea, which makes me wonder if I'm not wasting my time anyway here. But anyway... the kickass thing about Cap (and Superman and Batman), and all the other true Mount-Rushmore-of-Superhero-types... is that they ARE square! They have square jaws, and they are all unbending in their bla-bla-bla truth and justice, the American way, etc etc. Cap is not like Tony Stark (a flawed superhero)... or the FF-movie portrayal of fucking Human Torch for that matter. The thought of "subtle smirks and subtle naughtiness" from Cap makes me wanna vomit... and since I CAN and have seen Chris Evans doing just that, I hate this idea even more.
Anyone... absolutely anyone, over Chris Evans. I didn't really know any of the other front-runners (except Jim), but as far as looks go, I'd say this Scott Porter guy looked the most like Steve Rogers to me... -
Why not? Fuck it... lets just hope the costume and script are awesome...sigh
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much rather see sum1 else rather than Johnny Storm. If he hadn't done thos FF films he'd be perfect. Give it to sum1 who hasn't done a superhero flick before like Chris Pine
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Yes, those movies were retarded, but nearly everyone agrees that the only good part was Evans' Johnny Storm.
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WONDERBOY!!!
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He'd be great, really really great...
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Nuff said.
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I mean really, all of the other "short-list" names sounded horrible or uninspired. Since he's already an established actor; perhaps they'll bump up the paycheck a bit? As long as we've dodged the Jim Halpert bullet.
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If there is anything even REMOTELY like this in the movie.
This is what i'll do:
1. Stand up.
2. Make a fist.
3. Extend my middle finger at the screen.
4.Yell at the top of my lungs: "Fuck you!"
5.Walk out quietly.
6.Bitch about the flick on Aicn, to a bunch of clueless studio plants who won't give a shit.
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First off, this is Cap at the beginning of his career so that rules out Valley.
Second, just because Evans played a smirky Johnny Storm doesnt mean he acts like that all the time.
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But several of those films will probably just require him to show up in a cameo appearance. All told, they are likely planning for a Cap Trilogy, 1 or 2 Avenger films (supporting role), cameo appearances in Iron Man, Thor, Hulk possible Nicky Fury or Ant Thing or Black Widow movies, or whatever Marvel characters they still have the rights to? All told, the time commitments will average out to 4 starring roles. In the end, Evans take it! this is the equivalent of you being handed the James Bond role, or at least the opportunity to kick off the James Bond franchise.
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You've got to be kidding. Please say that you are. The guy has all the depth of a turnip. I've read Captain America since the 70s and I'm so sick to death of Hollywood going for the prettyboy of the week, when it comes to casting.
I don't have anything against Chris Evans. I think I liked him as Johnny Storm. I just don't think he can make me believe it.
When Hollywood looks at the character, all they see is a perfect physique kind of guy. That's not what made Captain American Cap. This is a guy who could walk into a room filled with superheroes powerful enough to level entire cities on their own, and they would look at each other going "Holy Shit! That's Captain America."
He's more than just a superhero. In Marvel. He's THE SUPERHERO. Everyone else looks to him first --without any hesitation. He inspires others to be better than they are, no matter what their circumstances might be.
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I agree with you in part. I wouldn't want to punch Krasinski in the face, but in my opinion he has a face suited for comedic roles. Kind of goofy looking, but still has a bit of handsome charm. Captain America on the other hand, I've always seen depicted as having a gruff looking demeanor, chiseled good looks, rough around the edges, gritty, that sort of thing. I think Chris Evans has a little bit of that, but if anything he's the one who should get punched in the face to prep for the role, to downplay his subtle pretty boy features.
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Could be a decent Ant/Giant Man in Edgar Wrights Ant Man. Then be the comedic provider in Avengers.
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Maybe more MAN than BOY, but he's still drawn as a good looking person. The only reason Evans seems like too much of a pretty boy when considered for a role like this is that people keep thinking of the mature, 30 to 40 year old Captain America physical appearance. This is supposed to be an origin story, and he's supposed to be a young man. After undergoing the Super Soldier process, he comes out as a young, early 20's good looking man at the peak of physical human condition. Evans can fit that description pretty well. At least compared to some of the other actors who've been considered, he can. Seriously... Two guys from Gossip Girl (Sebastian Stan, Chace Crawford), Channing Tatum, Ryan Phillipe (good actor, but looks a little bit too effeminate), Michael Cassidy, John Krasinski? Evans definitely looks better suited for a role like this than those dudes.
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If you meant me, i was commenting on TBer "Illuminate", who put forth the clownshoe idea that Joe Johnston should not hold back Cris Evans "subtle smirks and subtle naughtiness" when playing Cap.
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...you know Evans has all the range he needs to play a superhero dressed like a flag with little wings on his head. If you haven't, you need to see that before whining further.
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...by the same actor playing Cap that played the Torch, you've got to venture out into the real world and make some non-geek friends. I doubt Evans even remembers he was in that shitty movie. Maybe 0.0001% of the audience would be confused, but that small percentage is already here in this talkback, and you're going to see the movie if Cap is played by Dale Dye or Justin Bieber*, so who cares. *Yes I made that joke last CA talkback, but it's too good to not recycle.
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And don't forget Redwing.
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Reported that Evans took the role.Is this true?
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...in their article's title. The rest of the article only goes on to say that Marvel has offered him the role and assumes he's already taken it.
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like the 2 Hulk were.and all this fuss would be for nothing.ha.
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that Evans is the guy who played Torch in F4.i erased those movies out from my memory.
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....I were Chris Evans I wouldn't take this role. The business end of it is shit! With the exception of Iron Man, Marvel hasn't proven anything! Why would you sign your life away for a movie directed by Joe Johnston? Not only that, the story for this movie sounds awful! Chris Evans is an awesome actor who can find success elsewhere! He shouldn't do this movie and be typecast. His time will come.
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....Chris Evans is well regarded! Why take a chance on a movie that is definitely going to suck? Robert Downey Jr. took a chance on Iron Man, but he had nothing to lose anyway. His career had flatlined at that point. Chris Evans is on his way up! DON'T SIGN CHRIS! RUN AWAY!!!
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I don't even know why Im posting on a Saturday!
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new catch phrase anyone?
@Bixby:
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Smart move, Marvel! A nine pictures deal with a young great talent. Can't wait to see the iconic SHIELD everywhere. And the SHIELD Helicarriers too, heh.
And agree with BixbySnyder about Ant Man Krasinski. Great casting, indeed. And his lady, Emily Blunt, as the Wasp, woo-hoo (Homer's voice)!
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Though I've only seen him as the prick in Fantastic Four. But he was the most annoying part of the annoying fucking movie.
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This is more of a safe choice than an inspiring one. This decision has Disney written all over it.No wonder they threw out Tatum's name, anyone is better than Tatum.It takes alot more than wearing the costume and holding the shield to pull off Captain America. Chris Evans doesn't have enough presence to be believable to bark orders at RDJ, Renner, Norton, or the God of Thunder.
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But can he be serious enough to play as Cap? all his roles have been sorta goofballs.
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Can't see Evans playing strongly against RDJ. I really wanted Mark Valley.
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@ BixbySnyder
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Enough about this age criterion.
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Watch Joe Johnston try to play it for laughs.
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If he pulls off playing Jack Kerouac, I'll have total faith in him. I've liked a lot of what he's done thus far (even if not liking most of the films he's been in) but this going to really be the two years that make or break him.
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Fuck that guy's whole family tree. He's a mediocre actor and the dude who already said that his performance is part of the mediocrity of Human Target -- you're dead on, my friend. Valley hams it up like a motherfucker in that show. They will not cast Valley or anyone even close to his age, because this is an ORIGIN story with Steve Rogers as a YOUNG soldier. Get it through your thick skulls, fanboys. Peace!
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I was skeptical when Evans name was thrown around, but i could see this working. I think he is a good enough actor to pull off the 40's era material and he clearly has charisma. And honestly, I think that Evans is the only actor from the group we've seen that I could see holding his own in the presence of RDJ, Sam Jackson, or Edward Norton. He can portray the confidence necessary to pull of an Avengers movie. Right choice, Marvel. Now accept Evans!
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@Bruce of all Trades: You DO KNOW that Captain America is frozen in ice and isn't immortal. He still will still age some while being frozen.
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well get a REAL CA movie before the Mayans prediction kills us!
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He's supposed to be in his early twenties when he undergoes the Super Soldier treatment, and the movie ends with him getting frozen while still being either the same age or a slightly older (we don't know what time span the movie covers). How the hell does he age while being frozen in ice? So he's frozen for roughly 60 odd years... shouldn't he be around 80 something when they de-freeze him in the present? Or are you implying that his ageing will be somehow "slowed down" because he'll be frozen in ice, in which case I ask - what the hell kind of laws of physics/nature are those?
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He's the only good candidate out of all the names that have been thrown out there. Unlike Phillipe, Tatum and Krasinski, this guy has actually been entertaining in a movie before.
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Casper Van Dien does fit as far as having the look of Steve Rogers, Mark Valley isn't too far off either. But since they are going younger, Evans works okay for me, I'd rather him than some of the other choices.
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he has the look, action star chops, and he can act. Imo his age isn't a factor, whenever I read Captain America comics I wasn't really picturing a 25 year old, I always thought of him as an older, more mature hero.
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Mar 20, 2010 1:50:02 PM CDT
This pretty much kills the Captain America movie!
by hollywoodhellraiser
Marvel had a potential pot o' gold in their mists and blew it with this BULLSHIT casting!
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Mar 20, 2010 1:51:08 PM CDT
Say what you will about Channing but he pulls in women..
by hollywoodhellraiser
audience members as well!
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this is either going to be Iron Man good or poor studio choices bad like The Incredible Hulk (notice that I didn't say Ang Lee's Hulk -- at least he tried to do something different...).
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the fact that you are supporting this and comparing the talent of Chris Evans to that of Robert Downey Jr. is befuddling. Mr. Evans has turned me away from every movie he has appeared in he as chode written all over him. I would rather give Krasinski a shot. Considering the options Marvel had I think I would have went with Ryan McPartlin. Nonetheless your credibility has taken a hit, and your job should be in jeopardy.
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Mar 20, 2010 1:55:14 PM CDT
All casting for comic movies seems to come from the same pool no
by wickedjester
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I bet Matt Damon costs too much in the way of money and onset hookers.
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Those are Marvels Sci-FiSuspended animationLawsTM. Also used by George Lucas for Han Solo in Star Wars.
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That guy plays the same character (himself) in every fucking movie he's in. He's just very charismatic and entertaining. But acting range is certainly not one of his strong suits.
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Would Iron Man have been a world Wide smash hit, if a 20 something would have play Tony Stark?
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Mar 20, 2010 2:03:18 PM CDT
I hate Robert Downey Jr but he doesn't play himself in movies!
by hollywoodhellraiser
Now Chris Evans is a one-note actor! He always plays himself in movies! That dude is a fucking talentless hack!
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not to mention samuel l jackson
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That they had offered the role of Cap to that fuckhead from Not Another Teen Movie...
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Your question is pretty irrelevant. Tony Stark was written as a 30-40 year old, Rogers is written as a 20+ year old. Those ARE their origins. Superman didn't show up when he was well in his 40's and Batman didn't start fighting crime dressed as a bat when he was 18. Spider-Man was about a kid straight out of highschool and each of those movies made hundreds of millions. And Kick-Ass is about teenagers and so far it looks like everybody's loving that movie. If the movie is well made, it'll make money.
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and i believe maybe it will create a new comic sub-genre: comic-movies which make fun of comic geeks.
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Here's your Captain America. Don't blow your money on big stars Marvel.
Name: Colby Donaldson
Age: 30-ish
Nationality: American
Salary: $1 million (cheap!!)
Experience: Survivor Australia; Survivor All-Stars; Survivor Ultra Heroes vs Mega Villains; Schick commercials
And here's the capper. Worked on an episode of 'Curb Your Enthusiasm'. If he's good enough for Larry David, HE'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU.
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Meant to say, 'You're welcome'.
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Im talking about LOOKS and MANNERS here. Im NOT saying "hire a 40 year old to play a 40 year old!". Im saying: Hire a 40 something that LOOKS and can ACT like the character. -After the Serum-.
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http://tinyurl.com/yfbj7uo
First "Benjamin Button" Eckhart(or Mark Valley, i keep flip-flopping) , then their regular self
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Just wanted to throw this out there, Chris Pine. He wasn't bad is the last few movies that I seen of him.
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...will they have to do a split screen?
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I saw him mentioned for earlier for Hawkeye. Fuck it, just make HIM Cap.
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He was very real and flawed, yet incredibly determined.
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Too old at 39.(Going by the Boyband casting) Too short. Too good as Hawkeye. (Don't jinx that casting.)
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Back in college he came on the campus talkshow to promote The Perfect Score. He was a pretty nice, laid back guy. He gave a fun interview.
The best part is that after shooting, our host said "The movie likes kind of cool, I might go see it". To which Evans replied "It's bad man, you probably shouldn't". His frank honesty about it was hilarious. -
I'll level with you. I don't really care what age is he as long as it's believable and well made. At one point, before they even had a script or a director, I too considered Eckhart for the part, but seeing as they've decided to start it off with Cap in his twenties and maintain that look throughout the film, I'll accept it. Maybe they'll do a good job. Evans is a decent enough actor and I'm more than willing to hive him a chance. I'm not too crazy about Joe Johnston, though.
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I hear you, why bother with fantasy casting? Believable and well made are the key words. And no "subtle smirks and subtle naughtiness"...WTF does that even MEAN? I agree, it needs to be a new Aicn catchphrase. Like: "Yes, yes, this movie looks good. But, WILL it have "subtle smirks and subtle naughtiness?"
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Matt Damon. Damon would have killed it right after Bourne took off at people seen he could do the action stuff. Chris Evans was the ONLY watchable thing about the FF movies and just about everyone agreed. If it's between him and that black hole of talent Tatum, Marvel should offer him the moon. He shouldn't think it's beneath him, shit RDJ is killing it as IronMan and Bale is making a killing with the Batman franchise. Both of those men are accomplished actors. Its no kiss of death if the material is right.
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Well said, my man... if that was a compliment to Evans, that is. He was one of the bright spots in that movie. He played an honest to goodness boy scout, too.
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Hey Thanks for the support! I think Jim would do good as Ant Man.
And, while Blunt would work as Wasp, im partial to Kristin Bell
http://tinyurl.com/yj5uouu
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besides being a midget, he suffers from cronic horse mouth syndrome. see hilary swank for another example of this horrible disease. chris evans as Cap, cool...let's get moving.
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So Chris Evans can't be Cap because he was the Human Torch?
Really? An actor can't play two roles? So Harrison Ford was confusing as Indiana Jones and Han Solo?
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Now that Marvel Comics is a full fledged propaganda arm of the United Nations you know this is going to happen. Captain America: The First Global Citizen.
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50 Changing Diapers, Charging Taters, No wait...Tatums.
If this guy gets picked, im gonna accept him. Im sure he'll do a good job, he was after all one of the best things about the Fantastic Four. My rant was mostly based on that i want this movie to work. With ALL groups. General audiences and us fans. And playing Torch shouldn't disqualify him.
After all: Ryan Reynolds is Green Lantern, Deadpool and Hannibal King.(And screwing Black Widow.)
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but I will still go see it. Personally, I see Cap as an older, experienced guy. Not a young pup. He is meant to be a leader and generally age lends to that well. I think the Human Target guy will be fine. Seriously, Cap is such a straight laced, intense guy, he does not need a huge acting range. They can use a younger actor when he 1st joins but a large older actor later.
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...from Don't Forget Your Toothbrush?
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For as the right actor will breathe life into this iconic role, the wrong one will...well, he'll bring a fucking pox to the entire Avengers franchise.You need the likes of Burt Lancaster, or Robert Redford, to pull of Steve Rogers -someone with true charisma that exudes virtue, and that we can buy into as a leader. All these metrosexual momma's boys just don't cut it. Someone out there must work. Eckhart is too old to pull off a young Cap. Chris Pine is preferable to Evans. Alexander Skarsgard truly looks the part though, and though I haven't seen him anything yet, something tells me he would be the best pick for the role.The casting of Cap is crucial for the Avengers to work. Thor seems to be coming along nicely, but the success of the Avengers franchise hinges on the Cap movie. Choose wisely!
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Mar 20, 2010 4:50:11 PM CDT
WISEELY IN UR OPINION BEAKS EVAN SUX ASS AS CAPTAIN AMERICA
by superwelling
WORST CHOICE EVER PINE IS WAY BETTER ! EVANS LOOKED NOTHING LIKE JOHNNY STORM! AND HE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE STEVE ROGERS AT ALL!
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That would be inspired casting.
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If you want to see him prove his acting chops, check out Generation Kill. It's a great mini-series and Skarsgard is perfect as the wise, stoic, cool-headed leader of his unit. The dude would've made an awesome Thor (he's fucking Nordic!!!) but sadly they didn't pick him, even after he screen tested (wearing a Thor suit, no less) for the movie. Still, they liked him and expressed interest in working with him again (as did he) so... you never know. Although they seem pretty intent on casting an American as Rogers (which is understandable), so fat chance he'll suddenly pop out of the blue as someone they're considering for the part. Even though he could easily pass as an American...
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Just what we all need.
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Just what we all need.
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himself, the mediocre Joe Johnston. Tom Hanks would've been a better choice.
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of "The Human Torch" being "Captain America"...dude looks the part though, it would be cool if he accepts it. I'd like to forget the F4 movies anyway.
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You'll get your own adaptation soon... from the director of From Paris With Love... IN 3-D!!!
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Logic dictates that Cap America will be all about patriotism and God bless America,100% american hero and not a global citizen.
You see nowadays USA faces a major social and economical crisis (well you wanted capitalism),a lot of american citizens are in a very difficult condition and things dont seem to become better (you keep sending your children in Iraq instead of terminating this remake of Vietnam? really?).
That means that at such dark times,people,americans in this case,are desperate and with their morale very low.And its in human's nature that they will spend more time with their entertainment(from gamble to cinema) in order to forget their problems and feel happier.
And what better than a movie with an all-american iconic super-hero who presents the best of America? all this patriotism (reaching the boundaries of nationalism),all this american idealism and way of life,all this heroism incarnated in the face of an american super-hero who fought and beat the Nazis and won WW2,well it is the best attaction and reason for a lot of american people to go and watch the film,in order to feel a bit more proud and happy with their country.(like Hurt Locker did in a small,different way thats why it got the oscars)
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"Do tell?!?" Okay moron, I'll tell you exactly why your whole argument blows. Why the hell would there be any reason for Harrison Ford to not play Indiana Jones, after playing Han Solo? What's that got to do with anything? What the hell kind of a comparison is that? Han Solo and Indiana Jones not only don't exist in the same world, they're not even in the same universe, or time for that matter. Ergo they have never and can never meet, team up or intereact in any meaningful way. Captain America and the Human Torch have met, and teamed up many many times in the past. They're not only part of the same fictional universe, but they actually know each other. Cap when he teams up with him in the comics refer's to him as 'son.' Not in the father sense, but in the manner that a much older person would take to a young cocky kid.
They certainly not at all alike. Can anyone honestly see Chris Evans projecting enough maturity to be going around calling other characters 'son?' Cap regardless of the origin, which wasn't written with much thought given that it was done in 1941, has always been potrayed right from his return in the 60es comics as having an 'older' presence. Chris Evans doesn't have that at all. And what the fuck are you talking about with all this it won't matter because it's in 1942. What, are you really that stupid? Don't you even realise that the film ends with him in the present day? And that all subsequent film appearances in sequels and Avenger movies will take place in the here and now? Are you a fucking moron?!? If you don't have a fucking clue about the material this is based on then, shut the fuck up, you retarded ignorant motherfucker! The only way your idiotic comparison could have worked is if Harrison Ford had also played a character like Qui Gon Jinn in the prequel movies in addition to playing Han Solo. And somehow no-one had blinked an eye. Which of course he wouldn't have wanted to, nor would he have been asked to. Because it would be the absolute height of fucking stupity! Just like this is! And even Lucas and Ford, unlike you and the shortsighted assholes involved in this Chris Evans fiasco, wouldn't be that stupid!! -
...who's never really made a good movie. Fantastic Four, Sunshine, Push were all pretty meh. He needs representation that can choose good scripts for him. They haven't been getting him material that's up to his talent. I don't think he has a very good agent.
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BECAUSE THE PART OF STEVE ROGERS IS WRITTEN FOR SOMEONE IN THEIR TWENTIES. It doesn't matter if it's Chris Evans, Channing Tatum, Mike Vogel (this guy is actually over 30), Garrett Hedlund, Chace Crawford or that other douchie kid from Gossip Girl. CAPTAIN AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE A YOUNG PERSON IN THIS MOVIE. Jesus Christ. What's so hard to understand? Unless they spontaneously change the script (which they won't) the actor they get to play Rogers will be in his 20-early 30's. And just so there are no more confusions, the movie going, non-comic book reading public most likely doesn't know about the fact that The Fantastic Four and Captain America originate from the same comic book universe. And in the cinematic universe, FF and Cap aren't in anyway connected. Marvel Studios (well, now it's Disney, since they bought them) owns the rights to Captain America and Fox owns the rights to FF. You won't be seeing Michael Chiklis or Jessica Alba show up in The Avengers and Captain America won't make any cameos in whatever Fantastic 4 movie Fox is prepping at the moment. Sorry about the rant, but this is getting retarded.
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If they can find the same presence and command ready nature in a 26-27 yr old American unknown then they should cast him, if not, Skarsgard FTW.
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Brendan Fraser was born to play Captain America.
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Is it me or has Marvel started to unwind all the great things it did as the "anti DC" starting with X Men through the Spidey franchise and into Iron Man??
Meanwhile, its too early to tell but it certainly look like DC is starting to pull its head out of its @ss. Dark Knight and Watchman were brilliant. Their animated movies have been awesome. Even their choices on Smallville have been a huge improvement. They revamp their entire entertainment division, hire the primier writer in comics today, Geoff Johns as the "idea guy", and put their flagship (Superman) into the capable hands of Nolan/Goyer.
Meanwhile, Marvel BLOWS UP Spiderman by letting Raimi and McGuire walk for a "reboot", put out a CRAP Wolverine spin off and now they're recycling Chris Evans???
I like Chris Evans and say what you want about the Fantastic Four movies but of all the actors in the world they pick one that already been a character in the Marvel universe? I don't know who I'd choose to be honest with you and Evans may do a good job but seriously, get with the program Marvel... -
Mar 20, 2010 6:23:56 PM CDT
Isn't this the site where Chris Pine was trashed the hell out of
by the founder
yes it was, and very much when he was cast as Kirk. I read the exact same arguments that is being thrown on chris Evans. He's too young, he can't act, he has no presence, and blah blah blah. Now Pine appears to have become a darling here and some are even saying he'd be great for Cap. Now how is it that he isn't to young for cap but Evans is and both are like the same age? I swear some people have no crediability.
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Evans really does look like Steve Rogers.
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Mar 20, 2010 6:27:22 PM CDT
Will they have to put on a hair piece for Evans to play Cap?
by the founder
Evans isn't really blonde enough but that's not a huge deal in my book, but his hairline is receeding. Cap hasn't been shown to have a receeding hairline, lol. I couldn't resist, I had to bring some negativity to the process. it's a tradidtion here. Evans still works for me.
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Please...I think it'd be cool, if they taught him how to act. Sigh, I guess it'll have to wait for the Captain Britain movie...
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Mar 20, 2010 6:30:27 PM CDT
What the hell happend to Garret Hedlund? Evans is still cool.
by the founder
I think he could've pulled off Cap, he certainly is big and tall enough. At least he hasn't been in a ton of stuff where you can nail him down with a certain quality like how some say Evans is to snarky or cocky or a smart ass in all the roles he's played.
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Marvel didn't do any of that. Sony owns the rights to the Spider-Man franchise and they made the decision to reboot the franchise. 20th Century Fox owns ther rights to X-Men and Wolverine and they made all the decisions involving those films. The people who work for Marvel comics haven't really made any filmmaking decisions for either of those franchises in a while. Marvel comics created Marvel Studios, which owns the rights to The Hulk, Captain America, Iron Man and Thor. They're trying to make those movies now. They didn't want Chris Evans for Johnny Storm, 20th Century Fox did (they own that franchise, too - bought the rights from Marvel a while back). However, Marvel studios DID decide to go after Evans as Captain America because they realize the Fantastic Four movies are bad and forgettable and they're trying to make something that isn't.
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I thought you all would be slapping your foreheads for missing the obvious.
Now I know on Survivor that the Villains are currently putting the hurt on the Heroes camp, but like all good comics the Heroes will lick their wounds and be back with more wins under their utility belts.
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who should play Hulk in the Avengers movie? brana or norton? what a dilemma..
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I keep on reading from folks all he can play it is a smartass and swarmy..What u all talking about? Street Kings and Sunshine is more than enough proof of that.
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but i guess since he played Punisher,he can not now play Cap,right stevedodgers5?
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"Im going to pay 300 points and replace human torch with Captain America."
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Michael Keaton is A TERRIBLE choice. He doesn't have the look, he only does comedy and he just won't look buff and awesome. WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE STUDIOS THINKING? REFUTE THE HYPE!
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Avengers movie will be a reality somewhere in the next decade? come on guys,be realistic.
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To play Cap. I've never seen an actor more closely resemble Steve Rogers. It's a serious no-brainer. Evans should be cast as Clint Barton, his performance in "Sunshine" was Hawkeye. Period
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And they didn't pick him??? Fucking MARVEL needs to be capped in the fucking knees!
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i say no
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has been cast. So did they go with F. Murray Abraham? Clint Howard? Wallace Shawn? Nope.
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They are both perfect as far as im concerned.
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ya we got TBAG!!!!!
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whats not to like Merrick????
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I appreciate the he said he said but...Thanks for the insight man but the POINT was PICK another actor that hasn't been a Marvel Character!!!! It's not Sir Laurence Olivier or Brando..it's Chris Evans and he was the Human Torch
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This site is a time portal to the 1990s.
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Mar 20, 2010 8:05:58 PM CDT
Well Michael Keaton was the 2nd best Batman behind West
by takingscorpioscalls
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Not the best choice in the world, but Evans is acceptable. More so than Tatum at any rate.
This is gonna sound like Trolling, but I can't agree with anyone hating the FF movies. I thought they were note-perfect - minust TWO minor things - 1) ALBA - hot,yes, but didn't look or act like Sue Storm. Charlize Theron was born for that role. And 2) WHERE WAS THING'S MONO-BROW??? Aside from that, both movies were great - F4 aren't supposed to be gritty to a Dark Knight standard - they're light action with a bit of sitcom melodrama. It's a dysfunctional family unit. Ah well. I still champion Mark Valley though if (as if) anyone important is reading! -
He is in my opinion the best choice mentioned in the trades so far. And it's very easy to forget ANOTHER fantastic Four movie. Take it and run with it Chris. You do it right, it's a Superman level role, and no ones done it right yet.
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You do realize that the FF movies have nothing to do with the Marvel Studio movies right?? If anything else is done with FF, it will be a reboot with different actors. So I stand by my original statement that your argument is fucking retarded.
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Krasinski would probably have been a little better, but this is still good.
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Mark Valley was born...
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i have yet to see anyone mention who i first thought of us the obvious choice to play captain america. neal mcdonahugh. u may know him from supporting roles in numerous things, such as minority report and band of brothers. he's a good actor, and looks so much like captain america already its hard to believe. imdb that guy. and you'll agree with me, that it sucks he WON'T be cast as the part.
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Is in his '40s...Too old for Cappy
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You do realize that both Downey Jr. and Norton are both in their 40's, and Jackson is in his 60's right?
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Mar 20, 2010 10:14:53 PM CDT
Chris Evans must be awesome since ive never heard of him
by slimbutnotreally
He must make crappy movies with losers like Parker Posey or Bruce Campbell if you nerds have heard of him and I havent....see, i dont watch mongoloid movies.
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Steve McQueen is pissed. where are the american badasses?
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i know he's a little small, but i think Ben Foster would be decent.
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athletic, american, unknown- check him out- it works
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Mar 20, 2010 11:08:48 PM CDT
Chris Evans or Chris Pine? --Either can be a GREAT Captain Amer
by jdanielp
For Chris Evans to transform into the character, he will need to check his sense of humor at the door (AND pump some serious iron). As someone said above, Captain America is all business...and it is my hope that the story/script and the visual interpretation route that the director takes will reflect the driven nature of the character. After all, Steve Rogers is as serious as an enlisted Bruce Wayne. I really have high hopes for this. Don't let us down, Marvel/Disney.
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I think that if Evans completely abandons his humors from the get-go, then he'll come off poorly. Every movie he's in, he's a smart-ass. Like it or not, I think the Evans' Captain America will have a bit of a mouth on him--maybe toned down a bit though.
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I'm on board with Chris Evans, especially considering the list of lady-boys that has been circulating. Physically, he's good to go, plus he's a decent actor. And I agree with NorseFire that this Cap will need some capacity for humor/smart ass or we'll be in for a pretty boring script not to mention some one-sided interaction with Downey, Jr. The Human Torch thing is completely irrelevant. Evans is a good choice. I hope he goes for it.
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Mar 20, 2010 11:37:28 PM CDT
I don't understand why Captain America has to be so young..
by ineedmoremegadesk
Why not use an actor who can show the experience and leadership that Cap portrays..the orgin of Cap (super serum)when he enters the Army is not as important as his presence on screen.
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Cap has to be young from a logical standpoint. If you are looking at it from a purely business perspective, a nine picture deal, you're looking at this franchise over the course of a decade. Sure Mark Valley looks like a great choice now, but in ten years?
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Every movie critics laughed when they saw Evans act as Captain of the ship. He was dreadful.
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Ok we need a big, blond dude... American... who SOME kind of acting chops... no "subtle smirks and subtle naughtiness"... a presence that can work with Downey's Iron Man... Jackson's Fury...nnot too young, not too old...etc... man, he's right under our noses... you need: 1 x bottle of blond dye and..... Tom Welling. (and boy would it piss DC off)
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As one of the three people that still watches Smallville, even I have to hope you're kidding.
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I watch occasionally... so make it 3.5
I admit the dude is kinda stiff acting wise... but I mean on the show, they'll never do the "tights or flights" thing.. its on its 10th season, he's about the right age (30?), American kid, built ok for the part, he's got some following in the fanboy circles, chicks dig him... I dunno, I'd take anyone over Evans for Cap. -
I mean, yeah, he's the Good Ole' American boy but God, I just don't see it. My number one choice for the role would have been Renner but I'm okay with Evans. I watch Smallville religiously but Welling just isn't that great of an actor. Seems like a cool dude, but I just don't see him as a leading man.
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I have yet to see Hurt Locker... but yeah, the Renner guy would be ok by me, from what I've seen of him. Heard the rumor about him maybe playing Hawkeye too - I'd say he'd be good as either.
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Yeah, I'd love him as Hawkeye too. He's the perfect combo of seriousness and funny (but in a dark way). He's somewhat crazy and has shown that he can act in a war movie--considering that Captain America is supposed to be a WWII period piece, that would count as a major plus. And he's a blonde-haired, blue eyed stocky guy. He'd be a great Cap. But he'd also make a helluva Clint Barton too. Either way, as long as he's a cape in some form or fashion, I'm good.
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The Hulk: Edward Norton, Iron Man: Robert Downey Jr., Thor: Alexander Skarsgard, Captain America: Jon Hamm, Antman: Patrick Wilson, and Natalie Portman as Wasp.
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He brought it in Fantastic Four. Shit, he even brought it in Not Another Teen Movie. And hopefully, he'll get to bring it in Captain America.
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I'm not sorry when I say that Chris Evans is not even close to being Captain America. You have actors like Ryan McPartlin who are far more suited both in stature and in ability. Heck, even if the guy turns out he can't act, at least that Ben Ryan guy friggin' looks like Captain America's real life counterpart in the same way Christopher Reeve looked like Superman.
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TV actors always cause headaches for the studio because of scheduling, which is why you're not going to see a TV actor as Captain America. Having said that, Evans is our best bet. He's a safe choice and the studio wants him, so I say that's a whole lot better than getting stuck with Channing "Duuuurp" Tatum.
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if that evans kid tried to order downey around, i cant imagine him doing it without a bit of a grin.
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The suspense is killing us!
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I would love that.
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Give him some work.
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Would be better than Tantrum.
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He's more American than most anyone on these forums.
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How was he overlooked?
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. . . Do it . . .
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I'm just sayin'. Again.
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So an actor can only play one type of role? You don't think Evans would take a different approach to Cap than the Human Torch? Is Anthony Hopkins going to play Odin just like Hannibal Lecter?
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Someone like Eckart isn't going to sign on to some 9 picture commitment. Maybe, but I doubt it.
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...apparently does not exist.
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AICN, home of Those Who Cannot Be Pleased. The more you guys bitch, the more apparent it is that Evans is the right man for the job.
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Man, you are on point with regards to the FF movies. They are supposed to be a kid-friendly family drama which introduces sci-fi conventions on a cosmic scale.
Alba was wrong for the part, although so, so hot.
I think they were gradually morph the thing into his unibrow self like they did in the comics
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I dig your Avenger's line-up. Wish you were the casting director!
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They be lucky to get a sequel after the less than stellar box-office returns from Captain America and Avengers!
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Mark Valley who is absolutely brilliant in Human Target is pretty much the Iconic Steve Rogers figure brought to reality. Anybody who has seen the first episode of Human Target already knows he has everything needed to not only nail this role but make a franchise that would kill.
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Chris Evans and ALL the F4 cast was signed for 3 movies.
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Basically he got to choose to be either The Punisher or Captain America, he chose Punisher. Since he thought the character had to be played by an American.
And he liked the script for the Punisher Better. I gotta say he was right. On both counts.
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Evans is a better choice than Cahnning Tatum or goofball Office Jim Krasinski, but he still does not have enough commanding presence or maturity. For those who say that Mark Valley, Jon Hamm, or Aaron Eckhart are too old: they are of an age with Robert Downey Junior. How is a young, callow kid going to be able to command RDJ and Ed Norton in an Avengers movie? We need actors with maturity and gravitas, not youthful snarky lightweights. As far as Cap being a kid in his origin story: they could simply do Cap's origin as a prologue or a flashback set in the Thirties while Hitler was rising, but before America was in the War. It is retconning the Cap story a bit, but it makes a certain amount of comicbook sense that America would have a Super-Solider research program on deck before the War began. Thus, the origin could be a quick Prologue or Flashback, and then the film could jump right in with Cap as an experienced war commander and grown man in the midst of combat. How much time do they need to show him prior to becoming Cap anyway? Just use a look-alike kid for the Steve Rogers origin scene, and get right into the WWII action with a mature, commanding Cap. Then you can cast a grown man like Valley, Hamm, or Eckhart, and not worry about putting a green kid up against Downey and Norton in the Avengers movie. And, as far as them needing a guy who will be able to play Cap in 10 years: why would they need to do that? In ten years, they will be re-casting Downey's Iron Man, Norton's Bruce Banner, and so on. Valley, Hamm, and Eckhart all could play Cap for the next 10 years, three or four Avengers or Cap movies, and then they could simply re-cast and re-boot. Hell, if Evans and Chris Pine are still around at that point, and have proven themselves, they could be considered for the role agin. In sum, don't cast some weak kid as Cap: cast a grown man with acting skill as some presence, gravitas, and command.
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made teenage Steve Rogers into a middle aged man? Ooooookay.
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Is there any mention of Zemo in the movie? Wasn't it his rocket that killed Bucky? While I wouldn't want Cap fighting 3 villians in his first movie, it would be nice to see a WWII-era Baron Zemo!
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Viggo Mortensen...The man IS Captain America...
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its the only way to be sure
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Chris Evans?!?! I thought this was a JOKE at first! That little ginger shit couldn't act his way out of a paper bag! I can't believe I'm hearing this!
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sure haven't gotten old after the first 20 times. Maybe after the second 20.
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Please don't let this happen. Not only does he not fit the mold of what Captain America should look like, but it makes marvel look like the most unoriginal group of idiots to ever attempt to put a film togetehr. 'Hey! Let's use a guy who was awful in one of our franchises that bombed already!' What kind of thinking goes into a decision like that???? So sad that they don't care about their franchises or fans.
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So you're telling me they hired Chris Evans, the Human Torch, to play Captain America who will fight alongside The Invaders, which includes the original robot Human Torch? WTF!? STUPID AND WEIRD.
I want the 6'4" Swedish, blonde bastard from True Blood (Alex Skarsgård) or maybe Chris Pine.
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I love this site because my two early and lasting loves, comics and movies, collide ubiquitously. I am profoundly sorry to say that I cannot share your elation at the casting of Chris Evans as Captain America. This is not how I envisioned this redoubtable hero from my avid reading of the comic. It needs to be played by an adult actor, someone who exudes gravitas. Let's stop hiring underwear models to play icons! Let's stop placating the average idiotic, somnambulistic, teenage moviegoer. Instead, placate the tried and true comic book fans. You know, the ones with the THREE-digit IQs! I say go bold with your choices! How about Aaron Eckhart? Liam Neeson? Jeremy Renner? This only took me a few seconds. Imagine what could be accomplished by real casting professionals guided by a genuinely talented, caring, and insightful director.
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RB had the great physique, but little else as far as acting ability. I think they would be better off with an unknown than with Evans.
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I mean the guy was okay as Johnny Storm, but as Captain FUCKING America!? I just dunno. Yeah, he's a better actor than most of the other young guys mentioned, but still would have prefered "older" actors like Mark Valley, or Aaron Eckhart in the role. We'll see.
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He's the dude with the wisecracks...the guy who annoys you after one too many drinks...he is not a leader...he is not a man who represents American against the Nazis...he was a great Johnny Storm but he will not be a good Captain America...he is too light...too happy...too much fun...and not what a serious hero should be...I for one, disapprove...(not that I matter but hey, we're free to give our opinions right?)
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Mar 22, 2010 4:12:06 AM CDT
OMG!!! Would some of you stop with casting of these 40 plus acto
by the founder
Look I got no problem with Evans. I'm going by the comics. Steve Rogers may be over 60 yeARS OLD but he was in his early 20's when he got the SSS and served a few years before he was frozen for all those years. Evans at 29 is about right in my book. RDJ as Stark is about right in age in my book. The guy runs a large corporatiuon and based on his education level he should be in his late 30's to mid 40'S. The guy that plays Thor from Star Trek is about right. Thor is near immortal so he ages pretty slow. Norton as Banner is right in age considering his education level and accoplishments.
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Might as well give it to Will Smith now. I don't see Chris Evans at all as Cap.
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Hopefully he takes this role... it will make him a household name- and i know he can pull this off. lol he can stump for his uncle, Mike capuano ( senator from MA) as CA.. lol
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•Joe Johnston I am kinda curious about Chris Evans though...I mean, he hasn't royally fucked anything up as of yet. The same cannot be said for Mr. Johnston, who has yet to make a film that is in any way above average, in my humble opinion of course (haven't seen The Rocketeer since it's original theatrical run but I do remember distinctly not liking it). Most of his films have felt emotionally hollow and somewhat incomplete to me. Like they were only half-realized ideas slopped together to make a release date or something.Who really knows though, maybe Joe will knock this thing outta the fuckin park. Shit, Jon Favreau did it and his filmography is almost as spotty as Johnstons. Praying for a miracle...
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http://www.featurefilmcasting.com/2010/02/marvel-studios-first-avenger-captain.html
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It's Johnston we should be trying to get rid of. We don't want a 'safe' director for this, we need a bit of grit.
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The MAIN reason people are suggesting them. Mine at least:
We, that have read any Marvel Comic Book that ain't a fricking BRAILLE version, knows what the character LOOKS LIKE in the comic.
THIS is the face of
captain america.
http://tinyurl.com/yc9w7kq
Look at that Jaw. And he'd love to do it too.
I flip-flopped again with Mark Valley/Eckhart, since i think Eckhart could work better with audiences after Dark Knight.
Doncha think that Eckhart would bring in some ladies to watch this? Hell, he'd bring The Ladies, the gay guys, straight guys who wants to see an action movie, old people who are 'tired of young whippersnappers', fans of the comic would be pleased as hell.
The only way they could achieve THAT look is to cast someone older and have him BE younger. Steve IS around 20. But he LOOKS older.
Is this really something hard to comprehend? OR they can, of course, CHANGE his look. An idea that was used in the Animated Ultimates and one im kind of(slowly)getting used to. Since they got the rest of the character right. -
It's official? Guess i better go check out Sunshine and Street Kings then.
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...and Chris's performance is just as I remembered it, totally fucking serious and without the slightest trace of any sort of "subtle smirks and subtle naughtiness".
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He will work out JUST FINE. This is his lifes movie. All of his achievements(and failures) have led up to this point in cinematic history. Everything points to him being the PERFECT director here.
Otherwise, something is SERIOUSLY wrong behind the scenes and i will spend all my money and the rest of my life to construct a timemachine, preventing this movie from being made.
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Then i suggest getting the Rocketeer and watching the hell out of that movie.
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I do remember really wanting to like it. Mostly because that poster was pretty rad. I look forward to giving it another go and maybe catching something in there that my younger self just completely overlooked.
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Cuz he is fine.
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And he gave a very strong performance in Street Kings. I love that movie.
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Have you seen his six-pack? Lord have mercy.
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So, they offered the Human Torch the role of Captain America and Deadpool was offered the role of Green Lantern. I guess there are no other actors who have played superheroes already who were available. I think this is a stupid choice. I can't wait for the smart-aleck Cap (sarcasm). I think that he looks the part, but is wrong for the part based on his catalog of work. I can't see this guy playing the most honestly patriotic man in American.
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Get to it.
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You better take that deal to play The Red Skull (unless someone else already has), other wise you are going to have to start answering those calls from The DR.
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Why the hell do you think they are going for a amart-alec Cap??? Where they going for a serial killer Odin in Thor?
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... Hollywood makes up for its history of uninspired and offensive casting of white actors in non-white roles (such as white dudes playing asians in popular manga/anime roles, to painting up old jewish dudes to play "injuns" in old westerns)?
There should be a movement to get someone WAY more interesting like Tony Jaa, Roberto Benigni, or Danny Trejo. Maybe then this movie will have a chance at reaching a larger audience than just Americans, even if it is only on a campy level. -
Those movies sucked and are NOT a part of the Marvel Film Universe, just like spiderman and the xmen are not.
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Didn't Beaks recently report that The Invaders would play a prominent role in the Cap'n A. movie? If that is the case ins't the original Human Torch part of that team? If Chris Evens takes the role what are the chances that we will be given some quirky line about how catching on fire must suck?
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is more like it.
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Captain Awesome America
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In rebuttal to those on this board who keep remarking that Cap should be in his 20s: That would be fine if they could find an actor that age who projects maturity, experience, presence, and command. Chris Evans doesn't (although he is a better choice than Channing Tatum; that is not saying much). They need to cast someone who project all of these characteristics. Aaron Eckhart, Jon Hamm, even Mark Valley. *****These guys are too old? Just ret-con Caps story a bit, and explain that he went through the Super-Soldier program in the Thirties, during Hitler's rise. The Program was established in anticipation of hostilities with the Nazis. This explains that Steve Rogers was young when he went into the program, but is now a well-trained, mature, battle-hardened leader. Show the Super-Soldier program in Flashback or as a Prologue, and then jump right into WWII combat with Cap/Steve Rogers as a full-grown man played by Eckhart, Hamm, Valley, or some other appropriate actor. *****Casting an older guy as Captain America is better than casting some weak pretty-boy. And, any of the above-named actors will be able to make Captain America and Avngers movies for at least as long as Robert Downey can play Stark/Iron Man, so why is everyone worrying about that? In 10 years, all of these roles will be re-cast and the franchises re-booted, in the same way that James Bond continues on and on, with an ever changing roster of actors playing the same character. Eckhart, Hamm, Valley, et al can last ten years and how ever many movies they will make with Cap/The Avengers. Better that they cast a bit too old rather than a bit too young. Cap is a grown man, not a snarky, snot-nosed punk.
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He can't even get an order at a drive-thru right.
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Mar 22, 2010 8:30:22 PM CDT
THE ROCKETEER FUCKING SUCKED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by illuminate
Oh, and the Rocketeer was ok, but it had so much potential if Joe Johnston had not pussied out and made it into Leave it to Beaver aka square characters that I would rather die than hang around. The only good thing about the Rocketeer was Jennifer Connolly's tits. That movie is like Howard The Duck, awesome to watch once a year if you are a sci-fi or comics fan. But, we all know it's utter meaningless shit that you should wipe your asses with.
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We'll hear the same argument others have made in ignorance. "Ewan McGreggor? As in, Obi-won? That guy sucked ass in Phantom Menace!!!" or my personal favorite: "Natalie Portman? She's not even human she was so wooden in the Star Wars prequels!!!" obviously discounting both actors brilliant turns in other movies with actual talented directors (Lucas was a talented storyteller prior to becoming an billionaire...never thought he was much of a director, certainly not an actor's director by any remote stretch).My point? People condemning Evans for the shite FF movies without even seeing "Sunshine" or the other stuff he's done where, if given quality material and a talented director, he actually IS talented and can out act most if not all of the other contenders for Captain America. I mean seriously...Channing Tatum? Really? This dude isn't even an actor. He just some jackass who beat people up in a previous career (right?) and now excels and simply not looking directly at the camera during filming.
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