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STAR WARS Sequel Trilogy rumors kick up again...
Hey folks, Harry here watching Garrett Gilbert pretty much destroy my will to watch Longhorn football as the Chris Simms clone continues to be a total clusterfuck. Anyway... While watching and tweeting, someone mentioned the below IESB story about a 3rd STAR WARS Trilogy, to be delivered after the 3D STAR WARS re-releases. This is not new. This has ALWAYS been George's plan. Remember last year at this time of the year? When George called it Malarky? Every source I have at Lucasfilm has continually stated that the plan is to do a third STAR WARS trilogy taking place after RETURN OF THE JEDI. But you have to realize - that talking about it, is going to make it miserable waiting for. It is DOWN THE ROAD. The only time it'll be truly exciting to talk about, is when sets officially get built, when Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford & Mark Hamill get signed to come back, and it is for real. Right now, it is just a plan. A far off plan - and plans can and do change, but it will happen when George is ready - We're all hoping that new directors will be brought in that are visionary directors. This will happen. BUT between now and then, you'll continue to hear people like Lucas, McCallum and Sansweet deny and call all such rumors as our right fabrications. That is standard Lucasfilm procedure. BECAUSE - until they're ready to announce, it does not exist. SO - I suppose it does not exist, but it will.
Here's the latest purported scoop!
Meanwhile, if you're hankering for an officially sanctioned STAR WARS movie - this is as close as you're gonna get for about 6-8 years:
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Pass.
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We'll see...
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'nuff said.
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remastered for Blu-ray George? That is what I wants!
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to come back. Um???? By the time this happens, won't they be a bit too old? Harrison Ford will be nearly 80 years old by then.
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I feel as though the ship has sailed for these actors in this franchise. They are all senior citizens. Depending on how they intend to approach it, it could maybe work.<p>But I would love for STAR WARS to, maybe, I dunno, do something new and/or interesting. Making another trilogy that yet again mines the originals for whatever they can to create something wholly derivative, cynical and soulless so they won't have to have an interesting story or creativity or narrative evolution or anything worthwhile.
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let's hear it
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Then let some some better writers flesh it out. Also, Steven Spielberg.
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...and Carrie Fisher will be pushing 400 lbs.<br /> <p><br /> Maybe in the 3rd Trilogy her and Jabba's cousin hook up[?]
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Oct. 23, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST
A third STAR WARS trilogy would effectively mean that...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
...Lucas has hitched his creative wagon to the STAR WARS albatross for the remainder of his filmmaking career. Besides, whatever happened to all those smaller, more independent films that he was supposedly so eager to make?!
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...yeah, they are too old to be reprising their roles. Unless Han Solo and Princess Leia gets kids of their own where Luke Skywalker trains them to be Jedi's. *yawn*
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how in the fuck are they supposed to play those roles in ten years? take another oxycontin harry...
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They'd do it if asked and paid enough. And with the money that would come in Lucas could afford to pay top dollar.
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We've been hearing this for years. It is not going to happen. Harrison has stated he does not want to do Han Solo again and I don't think anyone wants to see the current Carrie Fisher in a Star Wars film
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Would have been worthwhile, and probably of good quality. But George Lucas' problem, and it's a problem he's had all along, is that what he *actually wants to do* with a Star Wars story really sucks. His original Star Wars would have been a shitfest if he'd been able to make the movie he wanted to. As would Empire. It has always been the limitations of technology and budget that have forced him to tone down his dumb, shitty imaginings into more reasonable things that are actually palatable to the viewer.<br><br>And that is exactly why the Prequels were so shitty, because with both of those restrictions removed, and surrounded by yes-men, he got to put exactly what was in his head onto the screen. And what is in his head is not good. What is in his head, when put through the filters of financial and technological restraints, and people weeding out the good from the bad, is good. And this is not what we will get with a sequel trilogy. We may have gotten that in 1990, but we can't get it now.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 2:28 p.m. CST
A Star Wars sequel trilogy has a 100% chance of happening.
by GibsonUSA Returns
This is a business, and there is too much at stake.<BR> The Star Wars merchandise universe comprises toys, games, books, comics, tv shows, and just about everything else. The driving, um, "force" behind these are the feature films.<BR><BR> By 1999, it was time to recharge the franchise with a new trilogy....and when it's time again, it will happen again.<BR> It's about numbers and spreadsheets...when the perfect timing is to recharge the series. <BR><BR> There is no good business reason NOT to make another trilogy. Its coming.
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But it'll be all CGI and air on the cartoon network...and Old Man Luke will now use the force to fart on his enemies.
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The prequels have already fucked the mythology up. The only way is up!
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I bet that one could work, and it wouldn't really be a prequel, in that it would be so far in the past that it would like calling Gladiator a prequel to Blade Runner. Although it is set thousands of years prior to the prequels and the original trilogy. The recent reports seem to say these new ones will be set far off into the original trilogy's future.
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not I
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The first one is a prequel to the prequels where we actually see the young emperor growing up and being bullied by the Jedi. We finally know what "revenge" is for. Darth Maul talks of it in episode 1 and it's the title of the last one Lucas made but we haven't the slightest clue what this revenge is for-so this movie will cover that. Also it will explain why the emperor wants to give up a life of luxury to go drive around on a cold ship for 20 years with Nero and wait around to be able to blow stuff up real good. The other 2 films will take place in the most recent star wars timeline after Jedi and they will not involve Luke training new Jedi at the academy but instead will focus on a new "golden age" of star wars technological utopia. The films will no longer have to do with politics or religion-they will eschew these concepts altogether and will not even have War in the titles. We will be presented with the force in full balance and an age undreamed of. Where planet-sized beings are grown for civilizations to live upon. This is the new utopian age of Star Peace. But something stirs...
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no intrest in seeing this. I don't think Lucas would give up enough control to let other writers and directors do their thing. As far as im concerned, books have already done the job and the quality of output from Lucas over the last 15 years or so hasn't made me think it should change.
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Seriously, those cinematic trailers for The Old Republic game are a billion times better than anything in the prequel trilogy.
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I don't care if it was already definitely happening even next year. I'm so totally over anything new that Lucas is doing "now" with this universe. It's all nothing more than an elaborate pretext to sell toys, anyway.
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Seriously, Star Wars seems to be timeless. I bet Lucasfilm or Lucas Arts or whatever umbrella all of the Lucas/Star Wars stuff ends up under, will be around for a long time. They will be making more Star Wars related stuff for the next hundred years.
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Take the Zahn Thrawn Trilogy, back the timeline up a few years, hand it over to some ambitious filmmakers and wait for cinematic gold.
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I have a feeling that there's the sequel trilogy I'd want to see, and the sequel trilogy that will actually be made, and these two will be very different animals.
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Seriously.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST
You only really need Luke Skywalker for a sequel trilogy.
by Margot Tenenbaum
I don't need to see a geriatric, domesticated Han Solo, thanks. <p>And I only want to see a Solo-Organa child/children if they're around the same age as Luke or Leia in Star Wars. A daughter with the combined personalities of Han and Leia would be awesome. <p>Lastly, I hope they flush the entirety of the post-ROTJ expanded universe "canon" down the space toilet.
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an interview with Mark years ago where he mentioned that George told him that he wanted Luke to be an old man (like Alec Guinness)in the next Trilogy. That indeed, he would be the one to train the successors to the Jedi Mantle. If that's the case, then Luke is likely to be offed in the first film in the trilogy too. And Han and Leia will also be relatively inconsequential to what will continue.
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to live on and there's a whole new economy based on them. So things are great because they have unlimited property. The organisms are genetically designed to provide atmosphere, etc. Then war can break out for control of the genetic secrets of the planet beings
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that I posted in that last TB that Harry linked to. From a guardian interview in 2002: "Earlier, Lucas let go a potentially revealing slip of the tongue. Expounding on the difficulty of constructing each film as a self-contained whole, he said, 'the challenge for me is telling a six-part story: so in Episode I there are things that I have to get in that refer to Episode VII... no, hang on, we're not there yet. I mean Episode IV.'"<p> http://tinyurl.com/yfaxr8r <p>Not saying that means much, but it does prove that the thought has passed through his mind as late as '02. Now I'm wondering...What material in TPM could refer to this hypothetical Episode VII?? Not to scare anyone, but I'm thinking of Midichlorians...what say you?
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And didn't Peter (Chewbacca) mention that when George called him in for the last trilogy that his contract had him signed for the next trilogy as well?
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When seeing all the main people watching the final cut of Phantom Menace at Lucasfilm and you could see everyone, especially McCallum thinking 'Oh Fuck' and then Lucas goes ''Oh well, it's too late to change it now''.
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How can it ruin things more than the prequels already did? It can't hurt and might help.
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But I would love even more a Trilogy based on events from The Knights of The Old Republic era
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Dear George... Creatively speaking, you have become the opposite of Midas! It's fine if you're laying down the groundwork for Eps VII-IX but for fuck's sake, let someone else (or a trio of someone elses) call the shots this time. The movie franchise is in desperate need of new blood. I say you get talented filmmakers who are also fans of the original SW to direct the new movies--- Cameron, Jackson, Nolan and Fincher wouldn't be a bad place to start.
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Or is my dumb computer. Can anyone confirm?
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Here's hoping
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at some point led by a Tarzan yelling Natalie Portman ghost
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...we will forgot this talkback ever existed, yet this might be the beginning of it all...for better or worse.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST
Harrison Ford should be a surprise cameo in Episode VII
by GibsonUSA Returns
That's how I always envisioned it.<BR> Have him come in for a super secret filming session, not be on the poster or in the credits, and his scene(s) not included in early screenings.<BR> Then in the final cut, one of the characters walks into a room and says "Solo..." and Hans turns around and makes a wisecrack. Audience goes nuts. <BR><BR> Thanks for reading my random dream. :)
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"But you have to realize - that talking about it, is going to make it miserable waiting for."... Good job not talking about it. This is nothing more than link bait.
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I don't think Harrison Ford will go near it but by then he may be desperate for the work. Lucas knows he screwed up the prequels big time and may try to redeem himself and his "baby". I think another trilogy was always on the cards. As bad as the prequels were they made a load of cash.
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I'm glad I'm not a diehard Star Wars geek, because it's gotta be rough for you people. You anxiously await the new installments, camp out a few days early, watch the movie finally, and then you see Har Har Binks, Jar Jar's son. Then you go home and kill yourself. You do realize this is never going to happen like you think it will, right? Shit's gonna take yeeeeeeeears, and by then, who says some of the key talent aren't going to be dead? You aren't going to see Harrison Ford, Carey Fisher, or Mark Hamill together again on a Star Wars screen. Nope. Not your's
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This could be good. But leave everyone from the original cast out of it. I'd want to see this set in the far future after the original trilogy. My thought is that the Force goes through cyclic imbalances, and the dark side is starting to emerge again, and Restored Jedi order has to deal with it. If anyone's in it, I'd love to see the Jedi Council conferring with Force Ghosts. (Luke, Ben, Yoda, Anakin or Qui Gon could have a cameo) but that's all the connection I'd want to the OT. The new trilogy would end with the Jedi learning to use the Entire Force (light and dark sides) to become more powerful than ever before, and to stop the Force imbalances.
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Or could it be Thrawn? I thought those were great books but not good for film. I have no idea what they would shoot.
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I did. I don't care who knows it. I know they weren't of the magnitude of cultural significance or quality of the originals. I know they were flawed with some incredibly weak acting. But I liked them. They were fun. They had pod races, duel lightsaber duels, flying car chases, Harriheusenesqe monster arena fights, Yoda going wild with a lightsaber, a Jango Fett fist fight, Christopher Lee, ground war fare, Quad-armed cyborgs with lightsabers, a massive space battle in the upper atmosphere, a Vader/Obiwan duel over lava, and more laser blasts than you can blast a laser at. I'm sorry that so many people hated them so much, but man I thought they were all a blast. Bring on three more. Let me go back to that Galaxy Far Far away to see some next-gen special effects and have some fun. And, as always, fuck the haters.
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and Sith are pretty much dead. That's what the evil force wanted. So no need for more films
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If Phantom Menace were first created and released today, would it have been in 3D?
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doesn't work.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST
As predictable as waking up in the morning with a big steaming b
by Scrunchie-Scroochie
Of course this shit is going to get made. Lucas will not direct any of them though, that's bloody obvious.
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will be in line, search your feelings you know this to be true.
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It's good business. Plain and simple.
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As far as I'm concerned STAR WARS and EMPIRE are the only good movies in the series (I am an Ewok hater). 2 out of 6 is not much of a batting average. 5 out of 9 would be but I'd be surprised if that were to happen.
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and seeing as Lucas has always taken 3 years to film one movie, does this mean we won't see ep 7-8 untill 2020, 2023, 2026?<P>If Lucas is planning a third trilogy I'm guessing he won't wait that long, and he'll likley have the first episode ready by 2015 at the latest, release them along side the 3d Conversions perhaps even attach the trailors to each of the releases to drum up more tickets sold<P>Also don't expect anyone other then hamil to retyrn, FORD won't do it unless he gets either abig pay day or is the star and Fisher doesn't act anymore, this isn't a bad thing though, set it around 40 years after jedi with a very very old skywalker briefly appearing and the story focusing on Liea and hans offspring and perhaps a rise of the sith, hell Returnof the Sith might be a pretty cool title that ties in nicely with the series' mythology
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Okay, not really (I just had to do that). I'm one of the few people who enjoyed the prequels (I get the hate, though). And to me more Star Wars is just one more thing to look forward to. If you want doubt and worry, that's fine (and understandable) but I'll just smile and think about lightsabers.
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M'okay...taking into consideration that Lucas wants to release each episode of the 6 films in 3D, starting in 2012. That takes us to 2017 that Episode 6 (Jedi) will be released. <p> Okay - give George a little time off, and the new sequels will start filming in 2018. <p> Figure 2-3 years to film and post-effect the first film means that we'll get Episode 7 in 2020-2021. <p> That will make Harrison Ford 79... <p> Carrie Fisher will be 65... <p> Mark Hamill will be 70... <p> Chewie (Peter Mayhew) will be 77... <p> Darth (David Prowse) will be 86... <p> and, James Earl Jones will be 90. <p> So, it looks like all of them will be Star Wars grandparents by then. <p> And, sadly, the films will most likely be garbage.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST
Site is down but here is the cached version of the article:
by wackybantha
http://74.6.238.254/search/srpcache?ei=UTF-8&p=star+wars+iesb&fr=ush-mail&u=http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=star+wars+iesb&d=946463245259&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=f4131f6e,e5bbd659&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=BBc9mHLJL76LBMMpSzIpNg--
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SuperShadow foretold this years ago!! Okay, I've just been itching for a reason to check his site. Still just as ridiculously hilarious as ever.
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Curse my editing skills!
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Just give us the live action show already, or a respectable anime covering post RotJ exploits.
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The opening scene for the first film will feature a geriatric, naked George Lucas, cackling maniacally whilst strumming his semi-erect old man willy over his big Smaug-esque mound of cash, before delivering a surprisingly generous and creamy facial to a bound and gagged Natalie Portman.
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...I want this to happen.
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IESB is probably down because of a traffic surge. "The next three episodes (which could be either Episodes 7-9 or 10-12) could possibly "occur as far as 100 years or 1,000 years in the Star Wars universe future." Furthermore, the IESB source claims that the movie will not focus on the Skywalker clan."<p> Key part being "100 or 1000 years after JEDI" (why skip Episode IX I wonder?), which honestly sounds far more intriguing than watching a geriatric original cast schlepping around with blasters and wacky CGI sidekicks.
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I heard that Skyline might be good. . .
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I was just about to mention that it will suck that that loser will rise again in his bullshitty ways.
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+A new Weird Al Yankovich song about food that roughly outlines the plot set to Miley Cyrus' Party in the USA. <br> +Kevin Smith will make Clerks 3 because now all of his characters that sound exactly like him will have something to complain about. <br> +A new Star Wars Holiday Special? <br> +An 80 year old George Lucas on a 74 year old Jay Leno's show plugging the third part of the trilogy. <br> +Look at it this way...our children's childhoods can be raped too!
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Anything other than Star Wars. George Lucas can kiss my white ass.
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Never thought I'd see people turn against the original Star Wars cast. Durn kids. Time marches on.
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You diss every fukin thing. The prequels were far from right, but other directors with GL as Producer? Yous guys wont stand for that you pea pickin little cuntz? You dont want to see it? You cant imagine Hans and Leias boy growing up with Lukes boy in a sibling rivalry dark vs. light maybe? You so called friggin fans cant imagine anything bigger greater thn your own egos? Screw the haters 4ever. Im calling three awesome movies that rival ESB! Some of you guys suck!!!!
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with the possible exception of Harrison Ford, they'd have to do something along the lines of the fall of Jacen Solo. Would put them all at about the right ages. Theres so much EU stuff I'm not sure George could easily come up with a new story to fit in there.
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http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/10/new-star-wars-trilogy/
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The prequels turned every impression we had of the Jedi from the hints in the originals inside out and upside down. "Guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy". No, they mostly sat around like fucking accountants in a hotel foyer deliberating on why there was a disturbance in the Force - and the two supposed most powerful Masters ever, Yoda and Windu, couldn't work out that the Sith Lord was in the building across the street. Not to mention Yoda, in his infinite wisdom, conscripted an army created in secret by an obvious shadowy agent who they knew was never a Jedi. The prequels made the Jedi seem ridiculous, incompetent, and most of all, DULL. <p> Lucas - take the idea for the now abandoned tv show (no Jedi, Empire-era adventures without Vader and the Emporor or any Jedi, no Luke, no main characters). Set it on worlds far away from the main events. Give us blaster battles, space chases and storm troopers. Don't worry about Episode numbers. Just give is kick-ass adventures in the galaxy everyone loved.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST
Don't tell me Episode VII is gonna come out before SPACEBALLS 2!
by GibsonUSA Returns
I've been waiting for that movie forever. Moreso than Rambo 4 and Indy 4, and we already finally got those!
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Oct. 23, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST
both the frozen prequel character and the "there is another"
by CreamCheeseAlchemist
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The only hope is if they make new movies AFTER LUCAS DIES! The prequels proved that he has lost his touch and will only ruin any sequels.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST
You actually think The old, fat actors are coming back?!?
by RETURN_of_FETT
And not anytime soon? The only thing I can imagine is if the sequel trilogy happens 40 yars after the OT takes place and Luke is a Master Jedi, but only trains younglings or something. I can't imagine Fisher's tubby ass doing anything on film again and ford DEFINITELY wants nothing whatsoever to do with Star Wars ever again.</p><p>If a sequel trilogy gets made and is meant to follow the exploits of the old gang, which seems unlikely, then they will be recast.</p><p>I think it's more likely that the sequel trilogy has an entirely new cast of characters. Since Lucas never likes to throw away ideas, I have a feeling it will have to do with the Kiber Crystal. I suppose it's possible that Luke will have a son that turns to the dark side and fights him in the end since Lucas also likes to repeat himself.
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Lucas has die-hard fans/customers ranging in age from 8 (thanks to the Clone Wars cartoon) to 70ish. He's just trying to ensure his financial empire will endure long beyond his death, probably for the benefit of his kids. If this rumor is true, the movies being planned are likely intended for Star Wars fans that haven't even been born yet.
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Been waiting for that since '89
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You fucked it up with the Prequels, even the one movie ROTS is not as half as good as it could've been. So dont destroy the one thing you actually did right that still holds a little bit respect in SW community (okay ROTJ is a bit debatable)but hey you get my drift don't you?
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Jackson's Silmarillion trilogy will come out at around the same time, causing Lucas to once again bend over and take it firmly between the cheeks.
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the 3-D versions of the OT and start work on this instead? Also keep Lucas as far the fuck away from it as possible.
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It's all about the cash. In the time between the end of Ep6 and EpI-III, there was just a trickling of books/comics. Since Ep I its all formulaic with multiple eras and a shit-ton of books per era. Cha-Ching if there is another movie trilogy; they gotta hook our kids on a new product. I spent too much time reading the 21 books of the New Jedi Order Era(the Yuuzhan Vong invasion), could have been done in 10 books tops. I will not get duped by GL again into another of his ego trips. I'll just re-read Dune if I need some excellent Sci-FI. :)
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Oct. 23, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST
George Lucas and Kim Jong-Il are both planning for the future.
by GibsonUSA Returns
The empires must live on.
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That's the rumor people. So please stop bitching about the original cast being too old, because it obviously won't be about them if this rumor is true.
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I laugh when I think about how upset Lucas must of been at the success of the LOTR trilogy. Return of the King even won best picture! LOL I've said it before, we should all be thankful the LOTR trilogy came out at the same time as that prequel shitfest.
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...You know, while the rest of the internet is talking about casting of the Hobbit.
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1000 years into the future?! or 1000 years into the past .(like bioware games) massive eh. what does it matter? in 2 thousand years would have anyone have anything but a ligtsaber, and the same star fighter and same droid. hasnt anyone in that galaxy far far away ever made anything new other than 2 deathstars;) ?
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Fuck Zach Galifianakis
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as the "old obi-wan" of the new trilogy
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As both Lucas and Kim Jong Il will expand their Empires on the back of cheap Korean labor.
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Clearly george lucas has been all about money since, well, forever.. I dont get his fucking logic on why he CANT do another trilogy with the old gang. I mean honestly, as shitty as the prequels were, ill bet ya regardless of red letter medias reviews (which are fantastic btw) most of those issues would have been way overlooked if we had han, leia and luke in the falcon going on adventures. I mean, how many god dam comic books, novels, toys, video games, etc have been made, and made a mint, telling the further adventures of han and the skywalkers? A shitload of money. Hell thats what kept the lucasfilm empire alive when there were no new films being produced. Why not just get this done?(WITH A BETTER WRITER AND DIRECTOR) Honestly george, you gurenteed to make a shitload more money. Whats wrong? your too rich now or somthing? Or is it about the art and story which coming from you is pure BULLSHIT! I mean, if you really wana talk about art and story, then the prequels worked agenst u, u kinda degraded vaders appeal by us knowing his backstory. PLUS, there are so many good adventures we could still have with luke and the gang. Just because vader and the emperors dead dont mean we cant have new villians. OR CLONED VERSIONS OF THEM? I mean, we're cloning starkiller...why not a cloned resurrected anakin skywalker? (played by matt lucas from the clone wars, not hayden) or an afterlife star wars film. Can be done...whats the neatherworld of the force like? theres millions of ideas and ways you can do it...why dont you? the fans want it, (done well) and there is more money to be made, and uve milked the saga as is to death, the star wars tit is spouting dust at this point..why not give it a shot of some fresh milk...
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Oct. 23, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST
The bigger news is a new Battlestar Galactica series!
by RETURN_of_FETT
Check the bottom of the page where it links to it! It's called "Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome" and takes place in the 10th year of the first Cylon War! That's actually happening very soon! Of course, that could spell the end of Caprica which might explain why the producers recently said the show is speeding way up for the 2nd season. Maybe they just got word to wrap up everything they wanted to do in season 2 because Blood & Chrome is in the pipeline.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST
BatVomit, the Hobbit cast story has been on AICN for days now
by ShiftyEyedDog2
so yes, AICN is talking about it too. Are they not allowed to run OTHER stories as well?
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Just don't let Lucas write the script, use practical effects, and get either John Williams or Michael Giaconpnodivodpo or whatever to score.
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Google News Star Wars. Too lazy to post link.
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I agree in part with TommyGavinsEgo. The jedi were a dumb bunch in the prequels. Were they even jedi or has Lucas did some inception thing on us to think they were. Anyway i don't think a new tv series would help. Lucas want to have total control over it and since it would be for tv he will be looking for ways to lower costs. Crappy cgi and soap serie actors dished before our eyes is a real danger here. This franchise does need to move forward somehow however whatever Lucas has planned now does not bode too well for its future
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"the challenge for me is telling a six-part story: so in Episode I there are things that I have to get in that refer to Episode VII... no, hang on, we're not there yet. I mean Episode IV."<p>Mace Windu didn't die? Midichlorians evolve? More Pod races? Gungan's gettin pasted?
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Nothing can contain the sag!
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Only Luke would be in the new series if Lucas has any brain cells left. Han Solo's story is done. Leia maybe I guess. The Skywalker family is the only continuity the prequels and the real movies have ( yes, I said that correctly ) . <BR><BR>But even then... What story is there to tell? <BR><BR> If it's a "resurgence of the dark side" or whatever, I'm just not buying it. You can't just have oppression overnight. <BR><BR> I would love to see the rebel alliance fall apart due to political infighting or something and have Luke founding the new Jedi order or something. That he would be fighting to restore order and going to far to mold the galaxy into peace but at what cost kinda thing. You could explore some very deep psychological issues of when and why and how he should be using the force, preserving his own power, and how to keep dozens of cultures from killing each other all the time. Oh wait.. who am I kidding. This is New Lucas we're talking about. It's going to be thousands of CGI barbie dolls, lasers and fart jokes.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST
Thankfully, George Lucas will not live long enough to do this.
by The Reluctant Austinite
And there's no way the original cast could ammount to anything but cameos. Anyway, by the time technology "catches up to George's vision," we'll all be six feet under. Then his grandkids will spit out a Star Wars movie every year to support their coke habbits. Yeah, I'm pretty cynical on this topic at this point. Thanks, Uncle George.
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Of course LucasFilm is going to deny those rumors. A lot of shit can happen in 7 years time.
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The Return of Jar Jar! He actually turned out to be the chosen one. The Adventure begins when Luke Skywalker, now the only person on the jedi council sounds out 5 golden lightsabers for young padawans to find. . .
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If he, like Leonard Nimoy, gets near the end of his life and decides a quick paycheck and one last moment in the spotlight sounds nice.
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I love SW, I even loved TPM but I dont think theres a need to do a further 3, the original cast are too old, some wouldnt do it and although fans accepted new actors for Trek, they may not be so kind for SW. They should use the story for SW:TFU to either do some separate movies or as the basis for the live action TV show. Plus the rumours of 9 movies has been going since people realised that SW was part 4.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST
They better be voicing miraculous CGI models
by Anything But Tangerines
NOBODY wants to see these geriatrics in "action" any more
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...so long as Lucas is the sole writer of the movies. Unless he brings in writing help we'll have more BS like we've seen since Ewoks, Jar Jar binks, etc. Lucas can't write for crap and I would be surprised if anyone else out there, no matter how visionary a director they may be, can make his terrible dialogue work.
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The scene that was written for him and Shatner was AWESOME. It's somewhere online - well written - solid stuff if you're a fan.... just sayin'
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The story's been told. Anything else would be unnecessary. Like the expanded universe nonsense.
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i always thought the star wars comics that take place after return of jedi (shadows of the empire, dark empire)ect...were cannon, they were officially endorsed by lucas anyway, if so will story elements be the same?, the cloned emperor was far too day time soap for me, although the stuff with hans and leahs kids was pretty cool, but anyway i guess im not as synical as some of you guys im looking foward to it, i remeber reading when i was akid (the 80's) there was always supposed to be 3 trilogys...HOLY FUK watching uk tv as i type this c3po and rdd2 advertising Curyyy and PC world, lucas is a filthy pimp, 3 more toy adverts on the way then, hopefully lucas will have some thing bad happen to him before they get made and then some one else will direct them and then perhaps they wont suck nerf balls
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And that is George Lucas having ZERO TO DO WITH IT. If he sold the rights to make another set of films to someone else and then washed his hands of it, good. Otherwise, FORGET IT.
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that actually sounds....absolutely fucking terrible. Just...terrible.
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WHEN SETS GET BUILT?! We're talking about George "I own more green screen than anyone" Lucas. You think that when Star Wars 7 comes around to being in production George Lucas will be building sets? I mean the rumor is after the original 6 get put in out in 3D right? That's 1 a year starting when? So by that time you really think he's going to build a god damn thing? Honestly I don't think George Lucas will be around long enough for that film trilogy to be made. I'm not saying that I hope they don't get made... I just think that George is in TERRIBLE shape... and this is coming from a true fat ass in every sense of the words. I think George will probably kick the bucket before he gets to make the series. I really do hope he hires some other directors tho.
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Even if this ever happened, which I doubt, wouldn't it just feel like a 6 hour epilogue to the first 6 films? Like scouring the of the shire? Or worse yet, somehow vader, the emperor or both get resurrected?
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MAKE IT SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He should be old enough by the time all the "3d" movies get released.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST
Luke, Leia and Han would all have to die in the first film...
by Rebel Scumb
To make it fit with the pattern already established in the other films of the old generation dying off to make way for a new generation of heroes.
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who is going to be the creative power behind the sequels? the greedy fat bastard who is going to ruin these movies as well,or new,fresh,talented blood who are going to respect the SW mythos but also expand and modernize it by making kick-ass,awesome,epic SW movies?<br /> <br /> <p>AND another thing.there is a slight possibility that because of various obstacles (OT leads too old) and the fact that Lucas is making a new SW MMORPG which is based on the very popular KOTOR EU,instead of making a sequel trilogy to the OT,that they might make a prequel trilogy in the KOTOR time period.
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Everything after the prequels just feels like needless rehashing, re-releasing, or re-merchandising.<P> It's all becoming too much, with little of it being very memorable or of much worth for me.<P> Unlike Star Trek - which I seem to have gotten back into, while losing love for Star Wars - I'm not sure a reboot or spin-off movie is really workable, or whether anyone will really take to it. Not me anyway, though I'm sure it would find its audience and make loads of cash whatever the case.
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Hamill & Fisher - you betcha.
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as a slave in a tiny chain-mail bikini.please.
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Along with Ian McDiarmid both of whom couldve been wearing diapers for all we know. Im sure Han and Lea and Luke in their 60's can handle a few scenes even if some of them are little more than cameos. I say bring a third trilogy on, I wanna see what that universe looks like later!
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Oct. 23, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST
Don't bring back Ford, Hammel, or Fisher.
by OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW
They're too old. It would just be fan service at the expense of making a good movie. Also, doesn't this undercut the notion that "All 6 Starwars movies are really a story about Darth Vader"?
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...All working with Lucas to start a new storyline in another time period I say do it. And definitely have Mark Hamil play a cameo as some Alien creature.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I've seen Harry be delusional before but I will eat a footlong turd the day Harrison Ford does another Star Wars movie. Oh, man. LO Fucking L.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh, God damn, Harry! It's not even april Fool's day! SETS in a new STAR WARS MOVIE?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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I'm sure he has the clout. Why not let Star Wars rest - it's gone... Yes, it was great, although the Prequels were a disappointment, but for me Star Wars died in 2005. Why doesn't Lucas make a new set of films not related to Star Wars? He is possibly the most frustrating man working in film because he could LITERALLY make any film he wanted. Any film. Fuck me, could you imagine what Malick would make with a billion dollars in the bank? But what does George do? Milk Star Wars with TV shows and video games! I remember someone once saying that the reason he keeps churning out Star Wars content is to keep his businesses (Like Lucas Arts) afloat - seems plausible. <p> I want to see the films that Coppola claims Lucas still has inside him! Not a burnt-out Carrie Fisher disdainfully reciting stilted lines like, "I hate grass..." or "Hold me like you did in the Millennium Falcon on that asteroid". Come on, George, make something new, or mentor some young talents who will - just like Coppola helped out you. Fair enough he's more of a businessman these days, but I just find it depressing that there's a guy who has the resources to spark a revival in original material in Hollywood and refuses to do so. I guess Willow and Howard the Duck didn't help...
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...could this be any good. He can write the story (not the screenplays though) and produce, but without someone else on the scripts and in the directors chair, this will obviously suck.
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If he leaves the original characters out of the films then I won't mind new films at all. The Skywalker story has been told, move on to something new.
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Having nothing new to bring to the table didn't stop them from making the udderly pointless Prequels, and it won't stop them from adding three more cash cows to Skywalker Ranch either.
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critical punishment. i am not a glutton for punishment, so i will stay far, far away from any star wars rehash. also, when you say " visionary director," i get the feeling you are talking about Zack Snyder... and i cringe.
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keep him away, let some new directors give it a go.
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Ambassadoe Skywalker is attending the funeral of an old dear friend, Chewbacca. Han & Leia are there...and that ends Harrison & Carrie's committment to the trilogy. <p> En route, there is much discussion about a "new" threat to the galaxy...a "new" Emperor has been secretly rebuilding the Empire. He has a new Sith Lord. Luke, like Obi Wan before him, knows he is too old to take on this new threat. He recruits a maverick band of Rebel Force rookies (ala, The Untouchables) to train as Jedis. <p> Ambassador Skywalker trains the rag tag team, with the help of Yoda. <p> Before they can finish training...all hell breaks loose...a planet is destroyed...and the Empire announces it's return in horrorfying fashion. One of the Jedi trainees is killed in the process, so Luke must join his rag tag team for retaliation...against Yoda's wishes. <p> The band of Jedi brothers (in which, there is ONE whom we will see become the "new" Skywalker of the rest of this trilogy...and he's NOT a kid...same age as Luke in Ep. IV)...must assemble the right tools and assests to mount their attack...which splits them apart to different systems. Some of them die alond the way...but eventually...they all reconverge with Luke at the NEW Empire Unltimate Weapon...They each get picked off one by one until it's just Luke and his favorite apprentice left. Luke battles the "new" Emperor...and dies...The new kid battles the new "Vadar"...it ends in a stalemate...(with Yoda's help) but stops the Empire's uprising temporarily. <p> END EPISODE VII <p> Throw in a love interest for new "new" Luke...perhaps the daughter of Han and Leia...and I think ya got a movie, George.
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then they would be mo-capped/de-aged. I'm not being nasty or misogynistic, but Carrie Fisher couldn't really play the Leia role anymore without that kind of tech - she's not aged well, especially next to Hammill and Ford. <p> I must say that I'm genuinely amazed people would want to see these made. If the Prequels didn't teach you that Lucas is past his prime, then surely Indy 4 must have shown you that it's unwise to revisit your heroes? Let Star Wars go!
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...No matter what, at least it won't be a remake....B'sides, there were some really enjoyable moments in eps 1-3...Between the cringes, mind you....
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That is the rumor ya buncha fuckin goofballs. Harry forgot to mention that part and now you guys just can't stop whining about old people. Or do you guys just like making up bullshit scenarios so you can bash Lucas again? You can do that without all this hyperbolic geriatric nonsense you know.
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Assuming the cast isn't dead by 2017, they could make the new trilogy complete CGI? It could backfire because Lucas goes overboard with it. My thoughts being.. they could make it like beowulf. You could CGI the characters to younger ages, but still have them do the voicework. The drawback being I don't feel lucas could pull that off. Other then that the cast will be too old. He waited too long. He should of made a sequel trilogy when he was making the prequel trilogy. I'd agree with a previous poster. Make it Star Wars, but put into future past all the novels, past the lifespans of the original characters. Somewhere where the can write anything they want without being pigeonholed. New cast, new Jedi.. etc...
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A complete non-story.
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This two Sith rule didn't work now theres an army of Sith!
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Oct. 23, 2010, 4:12 p.m. CST
All he needs is to hire the writers and directors for the Clone
by ganymede3010
That shit is beyond epic. He can't fail with them at the helm. The Clone wars eviscerates the already dated prequels. The prequels look more antiquated than the original trilogy.
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Lucas is 66. A trilogy takes 10 years to make. It's over. He can flog crap with the Star Wars logo on it the rest of his life. He doesn't need to make any more movies. Besides he folded his original plans for Episodes VII - IX into Return of the Jedi when he realised how knackering it is making a trilogy. The Emperor and Vader were originally to feature right through to Episode IX. There is NO WAY he will ever make another trilogy, and he sure as hell won't let somebody else take it over.
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Who are you trying to fool? If you are a registered member of THIS site and posting a response to a story regarding a new Star Wars trilogy then there is absolutely ZERO probability that you won't go to see them if they are produced. Give me a break...and stop hating just to hate.
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I was discussing this with a co-worker the other day, instead of constantly retooling the originals and writing awful prequels that "need" to fit the mold of what is to come later...why not just create a trilogy that takes place 1,000 years after the original trilogy?<br /> <br /> The Star Wars universe has already been established, there are thousands of directions that Lucas could possibly take. You could even have small cameos via holographic projections of the original trilogy characters while creating another set of Good/Evil characters that will ultimately wage some sort of war. There is so much potential to move forward from what has been established (from a storytelling point of view) with a semi-fresh slate. <br /><br />The fanbase is already present. They'll see anything with STAR WARS attached to it, the only thing you will need them to do is understand that the Star Wars universe continues to live on long past the deaths of Luke,Han,Leia, Chewbacca and all those damned Ewoks. Who is to say that 1,000 years after Jedi that another dark reign won't come over the universe and make Darth Vader look like a pansy? Only the fanbase's nostalgic arrogance would prevent something like that from happening, when Lucas might possibly be able to pump out a really great story. You never know. I say dabble with what is established (force, Darkside, some of the planets) and then move forward with a new character set and badass trilogy arc.
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As someone that is responsible for the biggest breaks in STAR WARS security history - FUCK YOU. And the point of this story was to say it was a non-story, which basically means you missed the point, which is probably indicative of the majority of your life.
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No way will this be made while George Lucas is still alive. However, I can see it - or remakes - when the rights fall into his children's hands.
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A rumour from over 30 years ago, that everyone has already heard, that is no closer to being made now then it was then.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 4:18 p.m. CST
I heard long time a go that Lucas wanted to CGI the original cas
by ganymede3010
However he would still have the original actors voice the characters. That would be a challenge to say the least.
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Like the Knights of the Old Republic game trailers, in fact, just have those guys produce a good film. I think Lucas's imagination far exceeds what could ever truly be done on film so CG is the next step. <p> Also, the CG is now to the point where they could faithfully mocap actors past their prime a la Tron Legacy and make them look young and realistic albeit in a CGI world where everything would look in place. And also you'd be able to do much more so yeah, imagine 1000 Sith taking on 1000 Jedi and so on. That would be awesome, plus the scope could be a lot larger without upping the costs of sets and extras. <p> I always imagined a Star Wars that took place in an alternate universe or reality, this way the stories remain unsullied like how the expanded universe ruined the original characters (i.e. killing Chewbacca, Mara Jade, Jacen Solo, etc.).
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pissed off Harry has awoken, everyone hide.
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Forget 7, 8 and 9, give us a Star wars fil set 1000 year before a new hope, perhaps based on the training of yoda set againt the background of the sith wars
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I take it you were a raving Major Applewhite fanatic, Harry? Dude was a hell of a lot of fun to watch. And now he's one of the most heralded young coaches in the college game, and Chris Simms is an unemployed back-up with no spleen. pwnt. (btw I'm not a Texas fan--Penn State actually--but I was thrilled to see someone mention sports even remotely on this site).
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Lay down the law! <p> "Fuck You!" <p> I love it!!
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REBOOT! <P><P> Kristen Bell as Princess Leia<P> Shia LaBouf as Han Solo<P> Jack Black as Chewbacca (and this time he speaks english - HILARIOUSLY)<P> Kodi Smit-McPhee as Luke <P> lan McKellan as Grand Mof Tarkin<P> Ewan McGregor as Ben Kenobi (clever!)<P> and<P> Shaquille O'Neil as Darth Vader
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There are green screens laying all over the place at Lucasfilm.
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this could work, the whole cast will never be too old in this one
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Oct. 23, 2010, 4:29 p.m. CST
Lucas, I dare you to complete a sequel trilogy by 2017
by Margot Tenenbaum
You'll revise them endlessly anyway, so just SLAM THEM OUT. Hitchcock made Vertigo, North by Northwest and Psycho in the span of three years. Cut down the bloated budgets and production schedules and show us just how much of a "Creative Genius" you are.
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people are usually only that emotional when they have been caught in some bullshit. <p> anyway, this is hilarious <p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPRu03ficFg
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I think he's only there for a few more months...
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and jayden as jump kick jedi.
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The LAS has been put on hold as far as I know. I think I heard there's like 50 scripts written already and they apparently would be too expensive to be feasible at this point.
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You must of really touched on a sensitive area for him?
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Throw insults at me all you like, but the bottom line is that this is non-news.
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My goodness I could only imagine the unparalled skill he would display weilding two lightsabers. One can dream can't he?
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The last time we got new characters, they were named Qui-Gon, Jar Jar, General Grevious, and that flying shit that owned Anakin.<BR><BR> You would really place your bets on a new set of badass characters for Episode 7?<BR><BR> Everyone wants to see Luke, Solo, and Leia again. They don't have to be made the main characters, but they should be ever present.<BR><BR> No 1,000 yr into the future either. Might as well call it something else if you're gonna do that (and it makes no sense business-wise...why drop the ball on the brand names that are Chewbacca, R2D2, etc?). <BR> Set it nearly after Episode VI...the Empire is gone, now what? Chaos and power struggle reign throughout the galaxy.
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It's non-news. It doesn't matter if someone inside Lucasfilm has told you that there's still some nebulous plan that exists to someday make Star Wars sequels, it's not news that anything is going forward or that gears are turning and therefore the only purpose it serves is to rile up readers for no reason. Then again...maybe that's enough of a reason.
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That isn't shit for a Science Fiction movie. Infact, he needs to double the budget.
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That would be cool. He needs to be "the asian Jedi", as opposed to that random asian jedi chick in the Episode II colosseum that looked like a housemaid dressed as a Jedi.
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Also, even as a kid I was appalled by how crappy those little Star Wars action figures are. What are Star Wars fanboy collectors thinking??<BR><BR> When Phantom Menace came out I bought an Obi Wan, took him out and was like "huh?"...its this cheap little piece of plastic junk for $10! Plastic felt hollow...the detailing was low quality...looked like a dollar store toy dressed up in glitzy packaging.
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Paul is 100% right. This is a NON FUCKING story. It means nothing and you are saying nothing. What the fuck did you even post this for? IM SURE theres got to be more relevant COOL NEWS to post here. Are you getting paid by the post now? This article is like a Seinfeld episode, its essentially about NOTHING. Go back to sleep Harry
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This is still cracking me the fuck up. So is Harry really bragging about over a decade old news? Is that really how its done in 2010? <p> Someone calls it how they see it, and you pull out an old crusty card from the 90s and say "AHA!" <p> I think that post by Harry pretty much let us know all we need to know.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST
Clearly, this rumor is a PR stunt by someone at Lucasfilm...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
...designed to draw attention away from THE HOBBIT...the prequel to LOTR and the one, true trilogy which kicked Lucas' films in the balls.<P>FLAME. ON.
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...during the X factor. as if the shitty singing i was forced to watch wasn't enough i almost smashed my flat screen when mr daniels piped up.
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...during the X factor. as if the shitty singing i was forced to watch wasn't enough i almost smashed my flat screen when mr daniels piped up.
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...for the double post.
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It would put the movie series brand at risk. Plus, if the rumors are true that it's been determined by Lucasfilm that a live-action series, to do it well, would be too cost prohibitive for them, then why not just do another live-action movie? That would make more financial sense than trying to crank out 110 episodes of a live-action series over 5 seasons.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST
I want a real gangsta-ass Jedi who doesn't need a lightsaber
by Anything But Tangerines
one relaxed motherfucker who can basically just stand there motionless and block blows with the Force. That's possible, right? If they can stop tons of rubble in mid-air and pull massive things apart with a hand gesture, I'm pretty sure a Jedi who really knows his shit should be able to fend off a swordsman or a team of troopers with just his Force abilities. Even a Sith Lord can't come running at you all acrobatic and saber-swinging if he's being choked to death. Think of all the money this would save in post! STAR WARS EP 7: ERA OF THE TRUE JEDI
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the outcry of the fans,after announcing that he is personally writing/directing the new SWT and that Justin Bieber will be Luke's Jedi son.
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When (yes, I said WHEN) these movies finally come out, I want to see more spaceship dogfights and 'splosions. I've had enough of the brooding Jedi "what is my destiny" bullshit.
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...Star Wars toys are really REALLY good though...
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If you don't realise that, you're hopelessly deluded.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 5:10 p.m. CST
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by UGG
sort it ginge
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a reverse triple-decker shit sandwich. At least my film memory can not recollect one.
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Somebody else can script the dialogue and work the actors, sure. But in terms of story, visuals and action, Lucas is the only one I trust.
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He'd do it right.
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directors on this new trilogy. Spielberg should finally get his chance to direct a Star Wars film, of course, if he wanted to still do so. This would be a pretty good roster of directors:<P>Film 1: Steven Spielberg, because he can balance both light and dark elements, which is a major thematic element of Star Wars.<P>Film 2: James Cameron, because he is the master of the sequel. Plus, he has admitted that he was spurred on to do his own sci-fi films after seeing Star Wars.<P>Film 3: Peter Jackson, because he can do epic, and has done a great trilogy of his own. He knows how to go out with a bang and not loose the characters and story in all the sound and fury.<P>Another thing that is great about all three of these directors is that they are F/X savvy, but not just with digital effects... they all have good experience with models/miniatures/practical effects as well. Star Wars needs to go back to using practical effects again. CGI is fine, but not for every damn effects shot.
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It was pretty much a non-comment.
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Are you fucking kidding me? This site is all speculation and references to jacking off or splooge. I have my own non-news flash for you. This ain't the BBC. It's not even Cinematical. It's AICN, where grammar comes to die.
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I'm pretty much down to see new star wars films again, so long as Lucas takes a backseat and lets somebody, ANYBODY, take the directing reins and script duties. And place this shit decades after Return, past all the comics, start with a fresh new cast, new plot. It'd be interesting to see some new banished Sith Lords emerge from a distant galaxy, already conquered their portion of space, and eager for more. Have a descendant of Skywalker leading Jedi Academy, unprepared for such a massive assault. Give us a Cameron-esque battle sequence hinted at like at the end of Episode 2. BTW, I was really hesitant to check out, but once I did, I really started to like the animated Clone Wars. Not that bad all considering.
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his next joke? Prequel Trilogy is a masterpiece.stay tuned.
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Forget Episodes 1-3 ever happened and start over. After that, then start on a third trilogy. Oh, and kick George Lucas to the curb, too. Like a bad dad, he was there for the conception, but was of no use as the kid grew up.
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What a fuckin' bounty it is for the Fett clone monkeys!
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The Bucket List part 2
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It's only fair he got pounded by the LOTR films.
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If they delay these films for a few more years, Old George won't have the stamina to write or direct a feature film. he can turn his notes over to real writers and let someone who understands narrative direct the films. Now, will someone please lick my balls? Because I can't believe I'm here writing about Star Wars.
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Not a trilogy, but one 3 hour movie about the war against the Sith in ancient times that resulted in the formation of the Republic, the rule of 2 and the Jedi Order rising to becoming the protectors of the galaxy. That's a movie I want to see. Throw out the expanded universe and make a war movie.
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And not let Lukas near it ever again?!
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the empire was destroyed, the only two Sith Lords are dead, Vader is redeemed, the 2nd Death Star is destroyed, the Imperial fleet go it's ass kicked, and people all over the galaxy are kicking the shit out of their local Stormtroopers on the corner. Luke will rebuild the Jedi Order and Leia will rebuild the Senate. Everybody lives happily ever after, the end. Any Vong or cloned Emperor shit would just destroy whatever dignity Star Wars has left. Give us the Blu-Ray, end that horrendous cartoon, finish up any games, and let it die in peace.
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and I know this is probably just another majority opinion---Lucas not writing the scripts. Lucas not directing or producing (he can executive produce or spend his time lording over the cgi like a bearded Shelob). Original actors not involved. Buzz me in 10 years when a script outline has been written.
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At least I hope not!
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And announces its true. There is going to be a third trilogy. And then he proudly introduces his director....M. Night Shyamalan.
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How is this even news? We'll all be fuckinng dead by the time this shit get under way. I'll be sure to not let my great grandkids watch this pile of future shit.
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not to be greedy. I have the original trilogy and that's all I need. I'm satisfied.
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Shut the fuck up. Not even remotely funny. Regardless what you think about him as a filmmaker, saying that you want him dead is classless and very rude and you should have your ass kicked for it. I live in Chicago. let's meet halfway so I can teach you some fucking manners.
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WE NEED THE TRUTH
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I regret it. Later.
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http://tinyurl.com/2ufx59s
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Willow is one of Lucas' lucky successes, and I'm certain that was because all Lucas did for that one was write the story. Ron Howard told that story, and that's the important part. <BR>Besides... Tolkien doesn't own fantasy. There's nothing at all borrowed from Tolkein there anyway... are you claiming the little people on a heros quest is the big link? weak.
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I actually don't mind the character.
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But have it take place after ep6 w/the original characters! that would rock!
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In 1997, Lucas said the following: "The whole story has six episodes.... If I ever went beyond that, it would be something that was made up. I really don't have any notion other than 'Gee, it would be interesting to do Luke Skywalker later on.' It wouldn't be part of the main story, but a sequel to this thing." Then in 2008 he said this "I get asked all the time, 'What happens after Return of the Jedi?,' and there really is no answer for that. The movies were the story of Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker, and when Luke saves the galaxy and redeems his father, that's where that story ends." For me that's pretty definitive proof right there that Lucas himself has no interest in a sequel trilogy. Now whether or not someone else would be up for making it is another matter, but Lucas has often said he wouldn't like another film maker continuing the film series. As long as Lucas lives, there will be no sequel trilogy.
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....it can't have anything to do with Episodes 1-6 and Lucas needs to be kept far away from it. A good filmmaker, like a Peter Jackson or a Christopher Nolan or someone we haven't even heard of yet, could tell an amazing story set in the SW universe. As terrible as Star Wars has been these last 11 years, I'd still like to see a good movie with Jedi, lightsabers, and massive space battles. Timothy Zahn proved you can still tell good SW stories.
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I don't expect the original cast to be a big part of any action scenes, but they still need to be relatively mobile onscreen. If this can't get moving in the next couple of years then they should just forget about it, or set up a whole new story using new characters. KOTOR showed us that you could make a compelling story out of a different time period in that setting, and I'd prefer something like that rather than sequels with parts that have been recast due to deaths or decrepitude.
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The prequels were bad enough for pissing all over the Extended Universe, but doing another sequel trilogy shits all over Zahn's work DIRECTLY.<p> Unless Lucas hires Zahn to write the next three movies, I say fuck this shit.<p> I'm reading Outbound Flight right now. Best Star Wars story I've consumed in AGES.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 6:20 p.m. CST
Everything made after The Empire Strikes back is shit for mercha
by CeejayNightwing
even John williams gave up writing great music after TPM, AOTC had like one good theme and ROTS was rehash after rehash. Lucas doing Star Wars has never been a good idea since Return of the Jedi so lord knows why anyone is expecting these new films to be any better let alone why the fuck anyone should give a shit except for the kids who grew up with the prequels. If Lucas died then we have a chance of someone else actually making something interesting out of Star Wars but until that glorious day the best SW projects since TESB have been and always will be the EU books and video games proving we don't need George, just someone with some real imagination and good intentions past selling Hasbro Toys and digital FX experiments!
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Without the toy sales post ANH, Lucas would never have been able to afford to finance the making of TESB. That's worth remembering.
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and I've broken some of the greatest fake stories in the site's history. I have millions at this moment waiting to see Pixar's Flynn's Arcade short before Legacy. This guy just says duh, you don't know nuttin- suddenly Harry is on a first name basis with em
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All the Ep: IV-VI types will otherwise be too busy helping take care of their grandkids to go to the theater; the EP: I-III crowd will be offloading their kids to said grandfarts to get drunk after spending the day working their asses off the keep their sub-prime mortgage from imploding and forcing them to move back in with said grandfarts; and all the 18-year-olds will be too busy getting laid to bother spending money on something they'll download a week before it hits the screens, anyway, so where's the demographic, George?
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The demographic would be comprised solely of pissed off fans hoping for one last shot at redemption for the Star Wars series. But as I said in my earlier post, Lucas has no interest in making a sequel trilogy because he considers the Skywalker family's story done and dusted. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
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Lucas serves as producer only. He comes up with the story idea, basic idea for each movie.<p><p>He hires other screenwriters to flesh out his basic story ideas.<p><p>He hires other directors -- a different director for each film.<p><p>Mark Hamill would appear in all three movies in a significant supporting role -- basically, as the Obi Wan to the next generation protagonists.<p><p>Harrison might be convinced to appear toward the end of the second movie in a supporting role.<p><p>Carrie Fisher could appear throughout in a supporting role, in various significant, but probably brief scenes.<p><p>Overall, the emphasis would naturally be on a new, younger (like Tron Legacy), and it'll inevitably be in 3D, so we should just accept these two things.
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If you really need proof that Star Wars on the big screen is dead, look at how poorly the Clone Wars CGi movie did at the box office. People have lost interest. It doesn't hold anything for them anymore. While I may yet be proved wrong, I'm more than willing to wager that the 3-D re-runs will also fare poorly at the box office. People have had enough at this point.
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Harry I don't want to hear about it...Your Longhorns beat us in our house last weekend.
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Couple that with the statements I posted from Lucas concerning a sequel trilogy and it's pretty clear that this isn't going to happen. And everyone saying Lucas should produce and other writers/directors should make the films - yeah, that's a nice idea I agree but it won't happen because Lucas doesn't WANT other people making big screen Star Wars. I hate to come across melodramatic but IT'S OVER PEOPLE!
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good call on the Lucas/"bad dad" analogy, that gave me a good chuckle. he's like a delinquent father that passed on his good looks, bolted out the front door before the kid was even born, and then showed back up when the kid turned 16 to teach him how to drive. and then promptly got the kid killed in a twenty-car pileup.
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he's had musing with myself and others about possibly expanding the star wars film world. His focus right now is both on the 3d conversions and the Blurays, but IF the first few 3d conversions are successfull G-Luc does have a story layout for another trilogy set in the star wars world. Don't expect Lucas to direct though, he would want to use more star wars movies to farm and grow talent within Lucasfilm<P> But like i said nothing is set in stone, I've been friends with George for close to 40 years and he's never been one to stick to a plan, which is what makes him one of the greatest creative talents i've ever known
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I mean, why not. Might as well...
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He said in an interview that while we he was willing to return to Indy for Spielberg, he refused to play Han Solo again for the TV series. Ford would probably never agree to this, which means you'd have to set the trilogy a full generation out with new characters and actors. However, I'd be very happy with an animated (or Zemekis mo-cap) of the Thrawn trilogy with the original actors providing voices. Sadly, that won't happen.
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Lucas does change his mind every two seconds.
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...not on a new trilogy, but the internerds on here who say they wouldn't see it.
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they are just expecting something more from just a bunch of videogames movies.the new SWT despite how crap it might turn out,it will be a huge hit,in the same way that the garbage mainstream DC/Marvel comic industry continue to make a lot of money,despite the fact that the popularity of their comics is not what it used to be.<br /> <p>People are buying them because it is the tradition,it is a habit,it is what their dads did and what their kids will do.similarly they are going to watch the new Trilogy,despite its crapiness.
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Maybe there'll be a story this time.
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Yeah, sure he should! Jesus...
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I was just reading some old Bantha Tracks newsletters last night (old timers will know what that was), and in an interview with George he was asked about the 12 episode series. He said it had been cut down to three, and the first trilogy would deal with Kenobi and Luke's father, and the sequel trilogy would deal with "the character who survives Star Wars III". Keep in mind this was published around the time ESB was coming out. I just find it interesting to see George admit to 12 being cut down to 9 in his own fanclub newsletter back then, and now he says that was never the plan, as if all the quotes don't exist for us to look at anymore... Anyhow, I'm sure he will go for another trilogy, and I'm curious of course, but if they are similar to the prequels, forget it.
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...that was supposed to mean above.
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remake Episodes 1,2,3. But even then, that would add another billion to Lucas's coffers. Star Wars jumped the shark with Jar Jar.
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Revenge of the Sith was the top grossing film of 2005. The interest is still there. I've been a Star Wars fan since '77 but I had zero interest in seeing a Clone Wars cartoon on the big screen. But if a new live-action movie were to come out - instant blockbuster. Look, even TPM was a massive hit... only because heartbroken fans kept going back again and again in a vain hope they might actually grow to like the movie.
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There was a podrace? That must've been the part after Jar Jar electrocuted himself with the pod engine... haha that was HILARIOUS!! But I did fall asleep before the race started.
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We will see Luke, and probably other new characters. No Solo, maybe no Leia. The Droids, sure.
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1. Underlying religious mystique 2. Lively characters with modern, unique personalities 3. Action set pieces that make sense and are simple enough to be dynamic: trash compactor, trench runs, sand people encounter are good examples 4. A strong narrative propelled by complicating but easily understood sitautions that push the characters into "trouble". 5. Lack of slapstick humor in favor of verbal asides and insults. 6. Designs that have a simplicity that makes them instantly iconic (TIE fighters, x-wings, star destroyers)... not lumpy mishmashes.
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No one wants to see a 75 year old Han Solo or a 60 year old Luke Skywalker. He should have done this instead of the terrible prequels.
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I would like to add... George doesn't need to use or even accommodate the Expanded Universe stuff. He doesn't read it, and just makes up his own thing. This is what he did with the prequels, and the EU authors all jumped to try and rationalize it so their stuff and the canon from the films could all exist, like they always do. They will do so again, should George ignore their writings and make another trilogy. For those who care, it will be adjusted to fit the movies. For those (like me) who don't, good thing George won't bend to make it all fit (and alienate half the audience who would be wondering who all these characters were and what events were being referred to. That's partly what made Trek so abominable in later years.)
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AAAAAAAAHHHH HELL NAW!! i forgot again my lightsaber.
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Their stories are actually pretty damned epic, and could be done without the appearance of any of the original actors (though an elderly Luke would be a nice touch).<p> Of course, there would be no suspense since people would already know the story.<p> It would also require Lucas admitting that the Extended Universe has value. That will never happen.<p> Really, the only realistic way for Lucas to do it is to pretend the Extended Universe never existed. So he'll write new stuff not thinking, "is this the best story we can tell," but, "is this different enough from the EU that I can claim it's entirely my vision."<p> Again, I say fuck this shit.
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I maintain the only way to continue Star Wars on the big screen is to go back and tell the untold story about how it all started and don't tell me the EU already covered it because most pre-saga EU is rubbish (actually most post-saga EU is rubbish too) and while it has its fans, it doesn't have the penetration that the films have. How many people outside the hardcore know who Exar Kun is? Exactly. <p> My idea is to start the way it always starts: A long time ago in a galaxy far far away.... <p> But rather than jumping into an opening crawl, we hear a voice. It's the voice of the Shaman of the Whills, playing a role much like Galadriel at the beginning of the Fellowship movie. We get what is essentially a prologue, a history of the galaxy. <p> Together on some unknown world, the greatest minds in the galaxy gather. Philosophers, chemists, theologians, engineers, physicists and more - those who are the very best at what they do, perhaps unnaturally so. They gather to discuss a phenomenon, some sort of mystical energy that appears to be guiding their actions, enhancing the skills of those who have a strong connection with it. This "Force" is a mystery but on this day, some of the great minds dedicate themselves to unraveling the mystery. They are scholars of the Force. Monks of the Jedi Bendu, servants of Ashla (yeah I'm really digging into the old treatments for names here). <p> Dedicated to peace, these monks stay away from galactic affairs in a galaxy where every world is out for itself. But within the Order, a splinter group forms, curious about what the Jedi feel is a corruption of the Force but what the faction call the Bogan, as true to the Force as Ashla (literally light and dark). This group are tolerated until a tragic experiment results in death. Study of the dark arts is declared forbidden and the faction, rather than abide by the ruling, leave to forge their own destinies. <p> For 300 years, the galaxy hears nothing of Jedi or Sith, each side content to study and learn. Until finally, on an isolated world in the Outer Rim, the Sith return, corrupted by the Dark Side. Their strange and awesome power subdues the planet and in less than a decade, the rest of the galaxy falls. They are Dark Lords of the Sith, each master controlling a section of the galaxy. They fight each other for power with slave armies, steal Force-sensitive children to train as successors. The Jedi do nothing. Pacifists, they send emissaries to the central galactic system, Coruscant, the only time the Sith Lords gather together, in apparent respect for their naive brothers. Every year the Jedi emissary pleads for the Sith to turn away from darkness and every year the Sith refuse. The Sith rule for 500 years, oppressing countless worlds as they war with each other for control. <p> And that's the prologue...it lasts 10-15 minutes and only then do we have an opening crawl that tells us that the Jedi are sending two new emissaries to the Sith. One is an apprentice, a former Sith Lord who turned away from the dark arts, living proof that it is possible. He carries a Sith weapon - a lightsaber, the first Jedi to ever carry a weapon since the foundation of the Order. <p> And it's at this point you realise that this post is an excuse to write fan fiction. So what's my idea? Simple. This former Sith knows what his old masters are capable of. So he shows the Jedi a vision of a galaxy consumed by darkness, he makes them feel the deaths of everyone he's killed, everyone he's enslaved. He shows them that the Sith cannot be reasoned with, cannot be turned back to the light. There is but one option - War! <p> At the same time, we follow a young Sith Lord, who throughout the course of the movie, rises through the ranks to become Supreme Commander of a united Sith army to stand against the Jedi. <p> But the Jedi have no armies, they have no training. The Sith have an entire galaxy's worth of slaves to fight for them. And so the Jedi do what the Sith did. They start with one world on the Outer Rim. They overwhelm the Sith presence and free the people. Then they ask them to fight to free the rest of the galaxy. They do this on world after world, freeing slaves, many of whom decide to join their "Army of Light" and while at first the Sith Lords believe it's just rival Sith at war with each other, by the time they realise the Jedi are responsible, the followers of Ashla have gained a foothold in the Outer Rim. No longer monks, dedicated soley to study and understanding, they have become warriors, Jedi Knights, fighting to free the galaxy from the tyrannical rule of the Sith. <p> And that's the movie. Follow the war. See the kind of Jedi vs Sith battles we thought we were going to see in the prequels. We focus on one Jedi and one Sith throughout the war. The Jedi leads the charge while the Sith begins to realise that the in-fighting among the various Sith factions will destroy them before the Jedi ever reach the Core Worlds. So he devises a plan of his own. The Way of the Sith - The Strongest Shall Rule, isn't good enough. There has to be another way - One Master, One Apprentice. With slave armies turning against their Sith masters, the Sith factions find themselves turning to droids and when the masters are all assassinated by our young Sith Lord, things begin to change. <p> Ultimately our Jedi hero and our Sith have to face off in a final duel on Coruscant but by then, the Jedi have all but won. Victory brings with it new challenges - a galaxy ravaged by war. So the Jedi pledge to help the worlds rebuild. An alliance is formed for the benefit of all, a great Galactic Republic for the people, once slaves, now able to decide their own fates with the Jedi Order at the heart, protectors, guardians. But wary of a distant threat, of a future darkness and of two Sith Lords remaining in shadow, one Master, one Apprentice. But there is a promise of a child born of the Force who will restore balance to the Force. <p> Anyone who has read all that, kudos and yes I am a fanboy with too much time in my hands. But if you're going to make another Star Wars movie, it's the only story left. The Skywalker family saga is over, the galaxy has been saved. So if there has to be another film, let it be about how the Jedi and the Sith split apart and went to war in the first place. Wow this was long.
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I'm not going to say much, since everything has been pretty much already said. The EU stuff is either loved or loathed by fans. Some say its canon others not. Hell, I don't even think Lucas really gives a fuck about the EU. However, Lucas could do this. Only if he comes up with story ideas and acts as a producer. That means someone else will write and direct. If Lucas does everything again, this thing will be worse than the prequel trilogy. But this won't happen. We were supposed to have a live action television series by now and that has not materialized. So any hopes of a new trilogy are just like that live action series. It ain't going to happen.
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cause thats the only way a decent Star Wars movie will be made. You can feel his influence on The Clone Wars, with too many Senator-centered political episodes. My wish is when he dies, whoever gets the rights to Star Wars, creates a new trilogy with some of the best younger film makers and writers. And it must fit continuity-wise with the Expanded Universe.
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Of course they are old. You don't think they';d be running around doing action scenes though, do you? Star Wars has a place for aged heroes of the past generations, it always has. I could easily see Mark Hammil return as a Ben Kenobi style mentor to a new younger character. In fact, if Lucas hired a writer and director other than himself, I'd really like to see that.
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Those characters are rounded and believable..the prequels and everything else are one dimensional repeats of those original characters. Every single REAL 'Star Wars' and film fan knows this is true
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And I don't mean that as an insult, but you can't really expect they would do movies based all around the tons of material there, can you? Besides which, even if you follow it, don't you want to see something NEW instead of a filmed version of some tiny, small story from the EU stuff you've already read? Let that stuff lie, and let's see something original. All EU is basically imitation of the movies anyhow... there's no way in hell any EU author would have dared put in as many new things as the prequels did (I think the prequels are bad, but they at least were imaginative and infused SW with new ideas... which the EU never does.)
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It's fan fiction.
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One thing I would love to see is a movie about Han Solo, Lando Calrissian and Chewbacca going on a mission together, making contact with old smuggler and pirate friends. Forget the lightsabers, forget the great galactic wars (says I who just posted an idea for the greatest war of all), a small story about old friends getting into trouble. <p> You could tell a lot of unique stories in the Star Wars universe that are wholly character driven and fun little adventures. The tv series was supposed to do this but that may not happen now. Imagine a Boba Fett movie. That could be cool too.
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People get old, get sick, and eventually they die. Star Wars grants no one immortality. Chop chop!
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Oct. 23, 2010, 7:37 p.m. CST
If it's set 100 years after ROTJ...
by Planty_McPlant_Plants_His_Plant_At_AICN
Then Han and Leia would be dead, but Luke would still be around because Jedis can use to Force to live unusually long like Yoda. So...old Luke training up a young apprentice (NOT Han and Leia's offspring, that's too darn predrictable) could be cool. And because Lucas likes to play the same notes, Luke gets killed by a Sith while his apprentice watches on helplessly. Can you imagine how emotional that would be to our generation? Luke fucking Skywalker getting killed. It brings tears to my eyes just typing it.
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Same point, different POV. Which is, no point in making them. If Lucas wants to redeem himself, tell him to re-shoot Howard the Duck.
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I don't buy the rumors that the LAS has been halted because the scripts would come in over budget: surely the show must have at least as much money as The Clone Wars has... if they just composite the live action stuff in with CGI of that quality (but less stylized obviously), and even if it doesn't look super realistic it'd still be considerably better looking than just about any other sci-fi show on TV.
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his character is allowed to be used only by Lucas and nobody else.i dont remember who said that in an interview,maybe a writer from the new MMORPG or the EU novels/comics.so if a NSWT is going to be made with Luke,only Lucas will do the writing and have him die or not.
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...having new directors with Lucas as producer, new characters and not pretentious, classy, elegant cameos from Hamill, Ford and Fisher. How would a Zack Snyder directed Star Wars would look? What about Nolan or Aronofsky? What do you think?
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As long as that JJ Abrams fuckstick and his shaky camera don't get near it, it should be kinda fun.
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The old seadog has been pestering Lucas to direct a SW film for decades. Now might finally be his chance. Nolan should do one and so should Peter Jackson. Spielberg for Ep 7, Nolan for a dark and complex Ep 8, and Jackson for a soaring conclusion Ep 9.
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I disagree. I think if anything, the latest Star Trek movie shows that Abrahms "gets" Star Wars, as ironic as that may sound. The movie was more of a love letter to George Lucas than it was a faithful Star Trek sequel.
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to that midnight phantom menace show. 3 am, back at home. New gf wanting to do new gf things, and i sent her home and went to bed. Lucas owes me a blowjob.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!<P>make it so.
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Because Lucas will be too involved.<p>You're name is on it asshole, time for talented people to take over the real work.
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It´s nice to have that idea swimming in your head just for the fuck of it- but stop mentioning Jackson. He is a shit director. The last 2 LOTR movies were a Braveheart rip off with midgets and long-hair faggots running around, so please stop saying that trilogy is better because it sure as hell isn´t.
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The Thrawn Trilogy isn't the best stuff. The best stuff involves Jacen Solo turning to the Dark Side, becoming Darth Caedus. That era of the EU, about 40 years after ANH, is fuckin' epic.
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Thanks for the info buddy. You should ask george to see if you could direct, or are you mainly an insider in the movie biz? Also I asked a few months ago about any news related to the movie version of ender's game, have you found anything out yet?
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Not to be rude, but you're straight up wrong. A quick look at IMDB shows me that The Clone Wars movie quadrupled it's budget. Why did it not make huge money, though? Simple. It was clearly aimed at the 10 and under crowd. Any person who saw the poster or trailer for that movie, SW fan or not, would not be caught dead buying a ticket for that. Kid movies like that just don't make the big bucks. Take Power Rangers for instance. The show that every young boy in the 90's was crazy about. How did the movie do? Only about 40 mil at the box office. Now if a new PROPER SW movie was released, it would rake in the cash like all the others. Interest in Star Wars has never died down and it never will.
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...will uncover many quotes from Georgieboy in which he talks about the potential for a 3rd movie. He's either: constantly changing his mind; a pathological liar; very forgetful or all of the above. From Wikipedia: "In the book Icons: Intimate Portraits (1989) by Denise Worrell, Lucas is reported to have only a vague notion of what would happen in the three films of a sequel trilogy. He is quoted as saying, "If the first trilogy is social and political and talks about how society evolves, Star Wars is more about personal growth and self realization, and the third deals with moral and philosophical problems. The sequel is about Jedi Knighthood, justice, confrontation, and passing on what you have learned." In the foreword of the special edition of Splinter of the Mind's Eye George Lucas stated, "As the saga of the Skywalkers and Jedi Knights unfolded, I began to see it as a tale that could take at least nine films to tell - three trilogies."
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I second that!! I always thought that the X-wing series was just begging for some type of movie or tv series. A miniseries would be awesome.
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there's more character building in the 1st ten pages of Rogue Squadron than in the 6 movies. Stackpole & Allston wrote amazing character interactions, memorable, humorous & lasting. Actually would be better in a series (HBO), but this fan can dream.
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As for wishes of Speilberg to direct a star wars film, thats just not gonna happen. I'm also good friends with steven and he's a SW fan just as much as us, he wants to watch the film not direct one. It's Georges baby
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There's tonnes of Luke stories in the EU, so how exactly is he the "holy property" of Lucas?
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I think this would be the most film friendly of post RotJ book trilogies. I remember liking the story even though I don't appreciate Kevin J. Anderson's atrocious affinity for allusion.
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That's no longer a problem! Haven't any of you seen the fancy stuff James Cameron used in Avatar??? The original actors will reprise their roles voicing and being performance captured for their photorealistic-ly rendered young CG Luke, Han and Leia!!! They'll be the new replacement jiggly physics for George Lucas cgi tech fetish!
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Unless they use HEAVY CGI to make them look young again. Stupid idea, because they're too old and replacing them wouldn't work for fanboys.
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I'm tired of Lucas fucking up Star Wars.
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After the prequels, I hope these come out after I've long left this Earth. Fuck that fat-necked douche and the Trilogy he beat into the ground.
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Instead of three more Star Wars sequels, I'd love to see Lucas, make the "Force Unleashed" games into a live action movie instead. The "Force Unleashed" games is great storytelling and they deserve live action treatment.
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Here's what they should do: <p> Get in some first rate writers, and make several high-budget, HBO-standard ten parter miniseries. Mainly set in the Old Republic. Each one a stand-alone story from a different era, with totally new characters. <p> Lucas needs to understand that the star of Star Wars is the SW galaxy itself, with the Jedi, the Sith, the Corellians, the Hutts, the bounty hunters et al. <p> Have one series that feels Dune-like, about great houses feuding, with a political edge. <p> Have one about a group of Corellian smugglers. <p> Have one about the menace created by one of the old great Sith lords. <p> If done right, these would be incredibly popular and sell by the shitload in terms of initial revenue, box sets, merchandise and games. <p> Create new, high quality IP set within the Star Wars universe. Stop recycling old characters and old worlds we've already seen a dozen times.
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Force Unleashed, Dark Lord, Coruscant Nights, the Dark Times comics, not to mention the Han Solo and the Lando Calrissian books (or even the Droids cartoon).<p> There's a shitload of potential stories in that era.
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Still pissed at him too. He praised the hell out of Menace before it was released. Wish I could find the quotes. Made it sound like he was nutting in his pants the entire time he was watching it. Know they were friends, but a real friend would have read the script before George shot it and told him it sucked.
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It's basically the story of a super-jedi, more powerful than Luke, Vader and Palpatine, who starts the rebellion. It's bullshit. It's fine as a video game but let's not pretend that the story belongs anywhere near a live action movie.
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Sort of like the "Tales of..." books., that'd be a good way to go too.
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AGREED! The FORCE UNLEASHED games are very, very cool! I would love to see them on film. Or, at least, I would like to see something similar in scope and mood.
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Lucas gives Neil Blomkamp free reign on it. Go 1000 years foward or back, it doesn't matter. He's what? 30ish? You know he's a product of Star Wars just like 90% of us. Give him a blank check and let him hit it out of the park. Although a young Yoda would be cool.
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...cuz that'd suck.
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Everyone will be dead. Harrison Ford already looks it anyway. But assume they make it. In the end this is just another one of those stupid geezer movies, squared and cubed. "Look, it's that old fossil Mark Hammill." "Wow, did you hear that Carrie is hitting the coke again?" Scott Pilgram II staring Earnest Borgnine would be better. I hate this idea. Everything about it sucks. Please. everyone start the chant: "Die, Lucas, Die!"
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There are many examples, including the Toy Story 3 review (The notion though of leaving childish things behind, giving your toys to the next generation... I loathe that conceit), and the childish BNAT entry requirements. I hate to say it, but Harry is getting creepy.
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I have to disagree, the Thraw trilogy was hands down the best EU series to come out to date. The biggest problem with Jacen going to the dark side was how easily it happened. They didn't even really have to manipulate him into it, that chick was just kinda like "ok, you are destined to rule the galaxy in peace. AS A SITH LORD!!!" and he basically just shrugged and did it.
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him and his Chuck Norris beard. When Kyle Katarn does push ups on Tatooine, he pushes the planet away from him.....
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Oct. 23, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST
Anyone remember that series of "little" movies GL was gonna do?
by BurnHollywood
And really, who wants "another" Prequel Trilogy, anyway? The guy pretty much demonstrated for all time he's character- and plotting-deaf...
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who is in the Force Unleashed games stated that it was his casting in the game to be also used for the maybe scraped TV series. He also has been training with Nick Gilard who does the stunt/fight training for the movies...so who knows. Could be cool if the TV series does happen, but I think now Lucasart's attention is for the future films.
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He just shoots.
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And I don't mean no as in it is a bad idea. I mean no as in no Hamill, Fisher or Ford! We have to get away from the old universe! This needs new visionary directors. Directors that are able to carry a rich and powerful story within a visually beautifully created universe. I'm talking Jean Pierre Jeunet, Michel Gondry and Tarsem Singh. All visionary and visually interesting directors who are fantastic story tellers. Let's see the rebel alliance becoming an inter galactic superpower who has to face off against the empire who has become almost Al-Qaeda like in their approach to warfare!
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First No-Prize I've awarded in months!
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is a tenth generation CRAY supercomputer that exists for the sole reason of keeping track of
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I hate cliff hangers.
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The movie will be about Han and Leia's kid(s). I'm sure the old original cast members will be de-aged digitally just like Jeff Bridges...if they're still alive.
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Suffice to say, GL shitted on the EU universe with the prequels. If he was smart, he'd shoot "Heir to the Empire Trilogy". However, he's to short sighted and jealous to accept someone's idea. The only thing he used from EU thus far is the Double Bladed Saber and the name Coruscant.
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...I just felt that the pacing of the Thrawn trilogy got bogged down at times, and the dialogue for the classic characters didn't "feel" right.<p> Plus, I hated the Noghri and the Ysalimiri. Both those elements felt contrived and tacked-on.<p> That being said, I'd love to see Thrawn and Captain Pellaeon as live-action characters.<p> Except for Tarkin (and maybe Piett), Imperial officers with real personalities are one thing that has really been missing from the movies.
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...sorta looks like a Dreadnaught.<p> Kinda, sorta...
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I'm pretty sure West End Games invented the name "Senator Palpatine".<p> I could look it up, but I'm lazy.
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Emperor Palpatine was named that in the 1983 novelization to ROTJ. It's a Lucas invention.
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Actually, try the original 1977 novel: Another galaxy, another time. The Old Republic was the Republic of legend, greater than distance or time. No need to note where it was or whence it came, only to know that… it was the Republic. Once, under the wise rule of the Senate and the protection of the Jedi Knights, the Republic throve and grew. But as often happens when wealth and power pass beyond the admirable and attain the awesome, then appear those evil ones who have greed to match. So it was with the Republic at its height. Like the greatest of trees, able to withstand any external attack, the Republic rotted from within though the danger was not visible from outside. Aided and abetted by restless, power-hungry individuals within the government, and the massive organs of commerce, the ambitious Senator Palpatine caused himself to be elected President of the Republic. He promised to reunite the disaffected among the people and to restore the remembered glory of the Republic. Once secure in office he declared himself Emperor, shutting himself away from the populace. Soon he was controlled by the very assistants and boot-lickers he had appointed to high office, and the cries of the people for justice did not reach his ears. Having exterminated through treachery and deception the Jedi Knights, guardians of justice in the galaxy, the Imperial governors and bureaucrats prepared to institute a reign of terror among the disheartened worlds of the galaxy. Many used the imperial forces and the name of the increasingly isolated Emperor to further their own personal ambitions. But a small number of systems rebelled at these new outrages. Declaring themselves opposed to the New Order they began the great battle to restore the Old Republic. From the beginning they were vastly outnumbered by the systems held in thrall by the Emperor. In those first dark days it seemed certain the bright flame of resistance would be extinguished before it could cast the light of new truth across a galaxy of oppressed and beaten peoples… From the First Saga Journal of the Whills
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How shit would that be.
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I never read the ROTJ novelization, so there you go.
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More horseshit.
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Shadows of the Empire in CGI would be great. The story is all there, and Lucas has the animation group that can do it. Just don't do that shitty Clone Wars animation and you have all the makings for establishing how to do the next trilogy.
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It's my pleasure!
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He (George) and They (Luke,Leia and Han) are too old to begin the Training (filmmaking)
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Lucas has that animation studio in Singapore he just built a few years ago to make the Clone Wars. He's either going to use it to make more television series or more films. My bet is on both because he wants to get his money out of it, he doesn't have to be involved with it daily, and he likes pushing the technology there.
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Would be a trilogy focusing on the child of Han and Leia going from being a Jedi to being fascinated in old Sith lore and mythology, then slowly being seduced by the extra powers they learn of. Luke being forced to train a jedi, maybe his own son to take down Han and Leia's child would throw up all sorts of strife and drama within their family. This along with a wider story of the galactic senate realising the dangers of a new jedi council (due to what happened in the past)and trying to rid the galaxy of jedi and the teachings would also help build a bigger story.
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is because some small, miniscule part of Lucas realizes that most fans were let down by the Prequels and despite the fact that he made a killing on those sub-par movies, its not enough and he wants to be a hero to all Star Wars fans again. It's eating away at him, though he'll never admit it. Ford has said he's done with Star Wars. Hamill will come back, but I doubt Fisher will. Anyway, what will the story possibly be?!? Is there a chance that Lucas will get talented writers/directors to flesh out his basic outline and the final trilogy will actually be decent?
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Oct. 23, 2010, 10:38 p.m. CST
Get some mature stories with balls and maybe I'll care.
by Onin Solstice
Something completely apart from the whole Skywalker thing would be fresh and potentially very hardcore. I hope Lucas keeps his hands off this project as much as possibe. Just sign the checks, Georgey!
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No matter what Lucas decides, he will die within the next 20 years, the rights will be sold off, and opportunists will try to make money off people. The sequel triliogy are inevitable.
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Hells yeah, this is gonna be a great world series!<P>Finally a team thats not the phillies or yankees
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I can't believe how many suckers paid for his site. I had personal friends who actually paid to view his bullshit. Remember Darth Rage? LOL
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Yeah, characters matter. Oh, and Lucas should give Darabont a shot at the script, fire him, and then add CG beavers on Dagobah. And all these Star Wars geeks will buy a ticket. Lucas can follow his own mythology, EU mythology, whatever... he can ruin it. Stop kidding yourselves.
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Yeah I said it. Compare it to the prequel scripts and it's fucking The Godfather!! Anyone who says otherwise is living in a shell in the basement closet. It just goes to show how relevant you are is dependent on how much more money you can throw out there.
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It's no where close to being Starwars. I don't forsee any kids salivating at the prospect of getting Avatar toys for Christmas. When I was younger, that was the best present you could get, especially the Death Star Toy!
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A New Hope my ass. It'll will always be called to Star Wars, and I know I don't OWN these movies. Only a fuckin retard or a 10 year old would call the best one "Episode IV"
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Oct. 23, 2010, 11:03 p.m. CST
Some fo these posts are the most ridiculous things I have ever r
by Citizen Sane
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Lucas became more of a slave to merchandising than anyone else.. His toyline influenced the scripts eventually.
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he's only doing 2 more seasons of Clone Wars. That or animate the scripts for the live action series.
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Ooooo we need more CGI eye candy!!! Let's say we put those Prequel plots in real world locations and present time. The result..... CSPAN!!!!
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I meant only retards and 6 year olds would call the best Star Wars movie "Episode V"
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No more, please! The only way this could turn out good is if Lucas dropped dead before scripts were complete, and I don't wish that on him. I just want him to retire and walk away to let someone else take the reins, but it'll never happen. Imagine Del Toro or Jackson turned loose with the Star Wars Universe, it'd be amazing. But it'll NEVER happen
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You are wrong ... Avatar is no where near being what star wars is .. I guarantee you people won't be camping out for days to see avatar two
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Warp 1000 years into the future, and make the Light Side of the Force have turned into a repressive, emotionless regime of church/state. Make the new characters have to rediscover the Sith ways and ultimately balance light and dark in a more honest, ambiguous way.
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JJ 's Star Trek didn't make sense and Avatar is a cg cartoon. No kid wants Avatar toys for christmas, so it's nowhere near sw level. These 2 movies are sci fi anyway. SW is fantasy.
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A useless organization that promotes Child molestation and only survives because it brainwashes every new generation into Believing in a God that doesn't actually exist. Seriously people If you believe in God then you are plain stupid
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Oct. 23, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST
As for directors, Jackson and Del Toro have too much baggage
by reflecto
They're none for too many other things. <p> Off the top of my head I'd say Neill Blomkamp, David Fincher - he's remaking a bestselling paperback mystery, he'll do anything obviously - and maybe, just maybe, if he proves he can do drama...Edgar Wright. Why not? <p> Failing that, go get one of the many talented young Asian directors languishing in obscurity.
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sorry
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Wtf they're remaking movies that are a lot more recent than star wars! There's a Hellraiser remake coming out and that was made in 88' almost a decade after star wars! Remake/reboot the fucker already! Justin Beiber as Luke Skywalker PLEASE!
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...For the penis-deficient.
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Awesome. Someone get Lucas on the phone.
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First, did you even SEE the Star Wars movies? Second, learn how to spell 'Chief'.
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in anything other than a distant exec. producer role. Lucas hasn't an artistic bone in his corpse, and I will no longer assist in perpetuating the myth that he might.
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..you already have....!
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Oct. 24, 2010, 12:27 a.m. CST
I thought the Blade Trilogy was this Generations star wars?
by RedBull_Werewolf
No... I though I read that somewhere?
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Mark my words.
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How about wait another 10 years, and remake the original trilogy. So the stuff that should be new (X-wings, lightsabre battles) actually look NEW!!! Get Ewan McGregor to play Obi-Wan again, but older... Get some better light saber duels, and new scenes. Get a new Luke, Leia & Han and we're good to go!
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Plus the fact that it made more than all the prequels proves that normal people can create a blockbuster too.
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True but it made a lot more than those other CG cartoons called Episode I, II, and III!!
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That's the only logical path. Anything else would be shit.
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While talented directors are making cool zombie movies, Romero can't make a Living Dead sequel worth shit now. Sort of what Lucas is going thru with science fiction. Must be blow to both their aging egos.
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and I think Dave Chappelle did the Jedi-child molestation thing already.
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and i'm sure he still has avid fans who'll buy whatever he puts out, just not as fiendishly as Lucas followers (everyone in this talkback)
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This story reekz of the Sanchez, his site has been in free fall since the story broke that he was in Mexico hiding from the law. So he makes up some bullshit that will be denied by a company that denies EVERYTING true or not, but he knows the news will catch on and bring people back to the nearly dead site. He finally ran out of people to fuck over and the place is dying a slow death. Don't support those fuckers by posting links Harry and don't support it by clicking them.
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...in 20 years when Lucas is dead. (And I doubt Harrison Ford will ever be back as Han Solo. Not for all the spice in the galaxy!)
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He writes them and get's a competant director who can change the script and make it great Ala Kirschner. Other wise this is like killing me with the prequels and than pissing on me and eating my rotting corpse
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Star Wars is almost always referred to as George Lucas' never drying cash cow. It is that, of course, but IF he can do the sequel trilogies and IF they are good, then they will be properly considered by posterity -- which, I think, is the only thing that George does or should care about filmwise -- to be his life's work and maybe a masterwork at that. SW3 showed George in a political mood and while that was not the smoothest in the dialogue department, it does show a kernel of wit and guts, which is what you want in films that matter. A trilogy that is about (in grand thematic senses) building rather than destroying? Wow, what an opportunity and a challenge. Do it George!
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It'll take place many many years after ROTJ
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i want to see what happens to jar jar when he gets married and has kids and then grandkids... pretty please! all attempted kidding aside I've got a bad feeling this will be part of the actual story.
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2d and 3d tricks to keep the timeline correct, but theres a big problem here. Many of these people will be dead soon. Either do it now or forget about it. Time is running out. In 10 years time many unexpected deaths will happen. Big ass star wars ones. I'll be shocked if Lucas is still here 10 years from now.
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I think Lucas should just produce this new trilogy and let new, younger visionaries take over behind the scenes. Also there is no way Harrison Ford would come back for this and let's face it Carrie Fisher doesn't look like Carrie Fisher any more. The only cast members I would even want to return are Mark Hamill and Billy Dee Williams. Maybe recast Han Solo with Dennis Quaid and how about Diane Lane as Princess Leia? As far as the story, why not base it on the Grand Admiral Thrawn Trilogy by Timothy Zahn?
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...God HelpUs or ...Goitre Necklace sorry, whats the topic again?
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It's shame you didn't enjoy it.
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Seems dumb, If something is worth making then it means luke and vader did nothing. I dont care for it. I would much rather see how the sith and jedi came about. what caused the defacto. how the force spread through out the galaxy. At this point it sounds like a found item that enhanced th euser, like secret of the nihm. that was destroyed on a large scale cast into a star or something. Some epic like that to spread it through out the galaxy unexpectedly. To force jedi to seek out other force carriers and train them to be good. Once powers obtained people seek to control it, some seek to destroy or protect it sometime to protect it it must be destroyed some times plans fail and the power becomes uncontrollable and hence my thought process. spice miners. slave spice miners, a woman finds a gem she obtains knowledge of the force in it's presence she builds a resistance to her masters. they over throw them and get thier planet back. word spreads. they offer the force to peacegivers to protect the meek. someone another woman wants the power for herself.
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...after the last trilogy, and will concern the fates of everyone in the universe as it slowly stops expanding, starts to contract slowly and building speed until the final chapter of part VIIII when all Star Wars matter is swallowed back into a unifying cosmic black hole, - the final shot is one of en-Gorged Lucas puckering up over a digitsl camera, saying "that didn't hurt a bit"...- discuss -
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...as George could always fart it back out again, while citing the rhythmic dynamics of inter-stellar physics and call it a re-boot
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You know this to be true. See the "Tron: Legacy" trailers. they were planning to digitize whole actors and make them 20 years younger. fisher can look like her slim self in the expanded novels just like Jeff Bridges as CLU2. Yes , Lucas knew LOTR put his trilogy to shame with directing and Avatar got to 3D screwing around before he could. Cameron should just by back Terminator rights and make Terminator future war already with CGI'd Biehn, post-governor Arnold, and Hamilton. Even those 10 seconds of CGI Arnold in that awful T4: salvation was a highlight.
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Seriously. I'm a huge Star Wars fan and THIS doesn't excite one bone in my body.
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I don't have much of a problem with it. Basically, I think out of the OT actors the only one who needs to come back is Mark Hamill as an Obi-Wan aged Jedi Master. Leia and Han wouldn't be that important, but I would get a kick out of seeing Harrison and Carrie make googly eyes at each other in their old age, same way I enjoyed seeing Marrion again in Crystal Skull.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 4:29 a.m. CST
Really??? people want and old and flabby Hammil and company back
by Sloppy2nds
Just do the Thrawn trilogy with new actors. As far as Im concerned thats the sequel we will never see on camera
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No matter what. It's fucking Star Wars.
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When i think back to the notable events in my life, Star Wars and all it encompasses - especially the anticipation, buying toys, waitint in line etc....is part of that. Only thing i'll do this time is avoid too many spoilers. I screwed over Ep 3 knowing too much.
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I mean Star Trek does it. More than half of them are crap yet you don't hear people sooking that they should stop. Same with James Bond. Seems everyone just hates on anything Lucas - Indy and star wars. Superman Returns was crap and so was Xmen 3. Should they never make them again?
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You could digitally create a realistic human being. Tron has done it this year with the young Jeff Briges. You think they won't be even better in 2020? they could even bring Alec guiness too. One day a dead person will win an oscar for a role that was created by animators.
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won't sign. He's done with Han Solo. From the one interview with Mark Hamill I listened to, he would be back as a Jedi Master while C-3P0 and R2-D2 were also to return and be in all nine films. <BR><BR> It's possible we'd see a cameo from Carrie Fisher as Leia but I don't expect it. <BR><BR> Hell, according to the transcript of an interview with Gary Kurtz, the "9 films" got turfed between Empire and Jedi. The Emperor wasn't supposed to even show up until the last trilogy and Kurtz left because Lucas was veering off course. <BR><BR> If a third trilogy IS being planned, I don't have a lot of confidence in it even though I'd apply to work as a storyboard artist for it in a heartbeat.
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Why wait for these 3d films to come out. Surely it makes more sense to announce the new films now, to give people a reason to watch the 3d films. Anyways, I thought the tv show was supposed to be next which IESB referred to, but I'm sure I read somewhere that Lucas had efffectively given up on it being made.
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Ok so IF this happens...the first episode would be out I guess around 2017 and the final episode would be released around 2023 making Lucas in his 80s. Hopefully that would mean that he allows others to direct and he sticks to writing this time. Just thinking about how long a wait that is sucks.
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I just woke up and bullshit detector isn't warmed up yet.
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An older and wiser Luke. Luke now being the Obi-Wan Kenobi figure sposoring a young promise, and trying to not make the same mistakes that the Jedis did with Anakin Skywalker. There's loads of potential for cool stories set in the galaxy after the collapse of the Empire.
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So, who should be, then? Established directors already well known? Or young promising directors like how Lucas was when he made the first (oldest) movie?
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After the dreadful Indy 4 and the farce about Lucas rejecting the Darabont script that Speilbergo approved, hopefully Harrison Ford will tell the fat bastard to go dangle. TPM had an amazing fight scene with Maul, AOTC was shite and ROTS had a few great moments. Over 6 hrs of film and probably only 20 minutes was worth watching. It's all business, it makes truck loads of cash and the fans get screwed. My nephew is 4, loves Star Wars and could knock out a trilogy treatment for next week that fans would go nuts for. George Lucas, aka the Walrus of Love, does not need to do this. Let it go big guy, just let it go!
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or this will fail. Granted he was a bit obnoxious in TPM, but his growth arc throughout the series was brilliant. A leader and a warrior, he could be the key to the new trilogy.
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The beard needs to stick with what he's good at, storyline/writing and producing(whatever they do). These could be totally AWESOME with some visionary directors. Also, the idea of it taking place farther into the Star Wars future with totally different characters is an excellent idea and pegs out my inner geekmeter.
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is all I'm saying.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3vEmKoIsLU
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http://www.youtube.com/user/BillHassel
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I'm just getting that one out of the way now.
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The only familiar characters should be R2D2 and C3PO, they are the common link through all nine films. I'm down with Hamill returning but only for a few key scenes. A new trilogy is exciting because we don't know what will happen or how it'll end. The prequels was like watching a football game knowing all the key moments and the outcome beforehand. Lucas should never have done them, he should have launched straight into Eps 7 - 9. Now he may be just too old and creatively fatigued to do a new trilogy. He should just write the outlines and hand it over to a new team.
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theres no where for the story to go in a sequel trilogy unless you follow Zahn's stories, which lucas clearly wouldnt. So youd have to junk either the original actors/characters, in which case its just a brand new story set in a SW universe, which interests no-one.
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I was trolling the internet yesterday for Benjamin Button VFX breakdowns after reading an article about the face replacement Fincher did on The Social Network of all movies. Honestly the tech is there for believable face replacement thanks to Fincher, Digital Domain, Lola VFX and a few other companies. Let alone the R&D budget on a Star Wars flick would be pretty good, so if there's a way to improve it they will. I do think Lucas should step back as director and let the universe continue without me.
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Look, no way am I falling for this shit again! Look, people... it's not just the shitty prequels here--that basically ruined Star Wars for me--we're also talking about fucking "Crystal Skull" too--which DID ruin "Indiana Jones"!!! And yet, you guys are still optimistic?! Lucas hasn't been involved in a good movie since 1983?! Where does this "optimism" come from?
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And let the writing and directing to somebody else. <p> That works out awesome on ESB. </p>
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A Dennis Quaid Han Solo would work for me, if we have to include OT characters.
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You really think that Lucas would let go or sell his SW baby? No way!! So dream on and think there will be SW movies or tv series without him on top. Also what irritates me are some talkbackers who make fun of Fisher, Hamill and Fords their age or how they look like. Okay so it might be out of their reach to play these characters again but there's no need for namecalling for how they look like now. It's called aging which is unavoidable proces for everyone. "When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not hmm?"
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same channel, same time each week!
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At least among the principal cast of human actors. Any of the creatures or droids - Chewbacca, R2D2, C3PO, for instance - can easily be played be different actors (although Anthony Daniels would be missed if he doesn't provide the voice of C3PO). I'd also guess (although I could be wrong) that if this sequel trilogy happened, Lucas would be more laid-back about it since none of it would have been part of his original vision, which was really the Anakin/Darth Vader saga. If they are telling stories about all-new characters, like the children of the Solos or Skywalkers, then it would all be gravy, so maybe he'd hire other directors and writers this time around. I agree with the idea of letting Spielberg direct Ep 7.
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Seriously, this won't happen.. Atleast with the current cast etc.. I love the way all these older directors and actors think they can make these films without any concept of life & death and the ageing process! Look at Kubrick and A.I, if these are made they'll be the same monstrous fuck-up films unless done within next 6yrs otherwise, game over!
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And have Lucas stay FAR FAR the fuck away from anything to do with it, and the films might just be watchable. And as far as where to head with the sequels... two words. Thrawn Trilogy
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Not as good has Harrison Ford, but he'll suffice.
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Yea I camped out for TPM, yea I was dissapointed aftrward, I think parts of ROTS were great however. But as a fan, I wish Lucas a long and healhy life, cause the day he dies is the day that Star Wars will truely be milked and riven into the ground. We will have movies, TV shows, cartoons, you name it. McCallum will do to Star Wars exactly what Berman did do Star Trek after Lucas dies. He will sit there and say that George passed the baton to him and run it into the ground.
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SW sequel does not exist in this dojo!!!
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The 6 part Skywalker story is done. Empire destoyed, Anakin redeemed, Jedi returned. <p> But. The Star Wars universe is so vast that there are many stories that can be told unrelated to the
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The 6 part Skywalker story is done. Empire destoyed, Anakin redeemed, Jedi returned. <p> But. The Star Wars universe is so vast that there are many stories that can be told unrelated to the
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...main characters fom the movies. <p> Who wouldn't want to tune in every week and watch a creative, well scripted, dramatic, action packed episode of "Boba-Fett: The Series"? <p> And i'm tired of Lucas bashing. We get it. Change the record.
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DonkeyPunch, your wish is my command!<p> I'd love to see another 'future' trilogy.<p> My one hope for it would be that Lucas or whomever does it takes it back to the roots of following a couple of nobodies (R2 and C3PO). Initially at least for the first part of the movie.<p> I'd like to see a smaller story told within the SW universe, not one necessarily following the conflict between Jedi and Sith. Pls no more Jedi Council... that political stuff really didn't work for the prequels.
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...Though of course I'm not expecting it to get answered since I'm not saying "lucas sucks" or "lucas rules, you haters" or some such nonsense. Just whistling internet dixie here, but hasn't lucas made wildly varying accounts about his initial intent with starwars? I swear I have heard everything from: he had only A New Hope planned out originally; he had the original trilogy fleshed out and chose A New Hope first; that he had ep 1 thru 6 planned out but chose ep 4 to do first for some goddamn reason; plus the odd other varying claim. Help me out.
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Maybe JJ Abrams could collaborate because this series seriously needs more unsolved mysteries to it. That aside, if you watch some of the making-of video you can clearly see members of the creative team thinking "How am I going to save this piece of shit?"
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That would be freaking cool as hell.
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I remember there was a Dark Horse comic called Dark Empire or some such thing... The story was pretty good if I recall and it had that original SW feel that I felt the prequels were often missing. Its tone was slightly darker and grittier - like the ESB. It had the restored Republic trying to pick up the pieces while the remnants of the Empire were embroiled in a civil war after the Imperial leaders and general staff were killed at the Battle of Endor. <P> If Lucasfilm decides to do VII-IX, they should use this as source material IMO.
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the adventures of Luke and Hans kids - with time travelling nazis, a ton of eco messages, flying speeder bikes, X Wings with cloaking devices, and a big bunch of fuckin kids...
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on Planet Solo 30 years before...with only a storm trooper for company whom he calls 'Storm'
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PHAHAHHAHAHAH HARRY POWNED YOU like a little bitch...eat it boy
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You win this talkback... hands down. LMAO <P> If you direct this you have to promise me you'll toss in a Dirk Benedict or DR Zee cameo.
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Proves finally that Lucas has nothing but contempt for the fans of his (3 decent) movies.
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they should cast him in the SW tv series as a Solo type character.....i hope if Singer ever manages to do the BSG movie he'll get Dirk in there in THE LEAD ROLE as Commander Starbuck<p> hey maybe if this 'non news' story proves correct it'll spur Universal or whoever owns the rights to fast track a BSG movie for 2012 or thereabout to jump on the whole SW 3D thing...<p> after all you cant have any new Star Wars without some BSG lurking in the background ready to come out when it sees a SciFi boom hotting up
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The last one was for kids under 16, or for retarded adults!!!
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according to the great 'Star Wars Tales' comic shortstory 'Into the Great Unknown' where the Falcon crashes in a jungle on earth and is uncovered 126 years later by Indiana Jones (heh maybe thats where they got the Indy 4 story from)<p> ok i know it was just a fun throwaway thing but its the only time ive ever seen anyone take a wild guess at just how long 'a long time ago' actually was..(unless theres been some other comics. novels that have doen so?)
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2 good movies out of 6 in the series. Remember that people. Myself, I suspect an unholy alliance between the Navi and the Ewoks to wipe out humanity in the name of peace (sort of what Hollywood has secretly wanted to do to flyover country for years). Damn their terribly accurate bows and wooden spears! Our robo-exoskeletons and hypersonic aircraft will never stand a chance.
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I totally agree with the poster above about Dark Empire. It is also my favorite piece of post-ROTJ canon work. It has Luke absorbing the shots from an AT-AT and then crushing it into a ball with the Force. The return of Boba Fett and Luke going one on one was a Jedi Master against the Emperor. Timothy Zahn seemed to want to create a lot of extra characters that would just make the movie characters look lame, like Thrawn the master tactician that hated Vader.
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George did a great thing when he created the Star Wars Universe and we thank him for it. But like many men who have a great vision or a great idea, it takes the ability to know both your strengths as well as your weaknesses and be humble enough to do your part while handing off others to those who are equally as incredible in other fields. Mr. Lucas, you sir are not a strong Director and if you were so humble enough to hand off directorial powers to one such as Peter Jackson who has proven that he would manage to take the Star Wars Universe and honor it in a way that would restore its luster then you sir would have made up for so much damage that has been done to the franchise. I realize that the numbers would indicate that you did not fail anyone but I promise you that so many come out to your films because they will always believe in the force. Be fair to them and give us all something to be proud of. Our children are questioning what the big deal was and we're running out of answers.
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So say we all.
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two great movies, one good movie, and a lot of idiotic bullshit that JUST WON'T STOP. i know it's fun to geek about stuff, but come on, you guys. stars wars? really? in 2010? who are these people that actually enjoy the prequels and the clone wars and the re-re-re-re-edits? 8-year-olds? there are so many amazing books to read and movies to watch and things to do. george lucas is giving you poop and instead of chocolate. stop eating it and asking more. it's pathetic.
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..and you go on with your lives, ignoring the signs all around you. And then, one day, when the air is still and the night has fallen, Lucas unleashes his subpar sequels upon us... It's only then that you realize, while you were talking about orGANIZing and commiTTEEs, the extermination has already begun. Make no mistake my brothers he will draw first blood. He will FORCE his sequels upon us. writing and directing each and every one of them with comedic characters like Ewoks and Jar Jar and horrific 'acting' by the likes of Mannaquin Skywalker and CGI heavy toon like visuals and virtual sets aplenty. The only question is, will the AICN brotherhood challenge and fight, or wait for the inevitable genocide? Who will you stand with - Lucas...<p> or us?
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Who should be burned, pissed on, violated, and burned again. In another decade, nobody will care about Star Wars. Its a shitty franchise anyway, even the original trilogy is kinda shitty, and we all know that is the cold truth.
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Hitler didnt direct Phantom Menace
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i didnt bother with IM 2 so cant tell but TPM better than JJ Trek?! LMFAO<p> TPM isnt even better than Star Trek V
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Oct. 24, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST
10 disappointing films that were WAY better than Phantom Menace
by CARTMANEZ
im talking about other longawaited shit that most people were disappointed by<p> Star Trek The Motion Picture, Superman Returns, Indy 4, AvP, Rambo 4, Terminator 3/4, Burtons Apes, Escape from LA, 2010
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Are you fucking kidding me!
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Oct. 24, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST
not many movies get a film made about how disappointing they wer
by CARTMANEZ
Fanboys...(starring Harry)<p> the whole movie builds to that killer last line
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like Phantom Menace. <p> no wonder Lucas okeyd all the Star Wars Clone War CG toons, he started it off in 1999
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TPM BETTER THAN INDY 4?! I'll do the LMAO my friend! and yes id rather sit down to Burtons 2001 inspired Apes or AvP (as bad as it was) than Episode 1 <p> TPM was an Abomination that should really be wiped from cinematic history and someone else like Pete Jackson or Cameron or whoever should do the world a favour and direct another version of it (with Lucas chained and gagged in a mental home)<p> really what SHOULD have happened is TPM should have flopped to teach Lucas a lesson
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Someone will throw enough money at the Lucas estate and remake the entire trilogy, except movie theater viewing will be so blockbuster-driven and franchise-hungry by then, the studio that makes it will make each of the six films into its own single trilogy--The Phantom Menace Trilogy, The Attack of the Clones trilogy, etc. in 3-D. And they'll add some more "ass-kicking" females and Will Smith's kids will play Luke and Leia. <br><br>So try not to die and you'll see a new Star Wars series in 20-30 years. And it will make the Prequel Trilogy look like Dark Knight, Wrath of Khan, Citizen Kane, and Lord of the Rings all rolled into one, and geeks shall weep blood.
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The prequels ruined the myth of Vader. So much so that the original triology has been tainted and frankly I am not interested in anything more to do with the Star Wars universe.
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that was a long time coming too and was way better than TPM<p> the only movie i can think that was as disappointing as TPM was probably AI...alot of great things were expected of that
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I'll say KING KONG. At least TPM wasn't three hours long. Even if you hated every second surrounding it, TPM had one good lightsaber duel. KONG? Three hours of...of...holy shit I think I've blocked it out.
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the prequels did what the W brothers managed to do with the Matrix sequels - RUINED the original<p> Phantom Menace pretty much ruined everyones lives...it was just like one big wave of negativity that went the whole world over - is it any conicidence shit like 9/11 and wars and stuff happened shortly after? i dont think so<p> people were so fucking disappointed that Episode II (which was also quite bad - not as bad as PM though) made about 300m LESS!...What sequels today of mega movies make nearly a third less than the previous one?! let along a fricking Star Wars movie! a film HAS to be downright awful to do that
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3 hours plus of Naomi Watts starring longingly into toon Kongs eyes. dreadful film a good hour long. (maybe it wouldnt have been so bad if Skull island and opening NYC had been condensed into about an hour - i was ready to go home after they drugged Kong on the island)<p> i guess thats what happens when a director is confronted by an army of yes men
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has no idea how college football even works. Gilbert was making plays when forced to scramble. It's Greg Fucking Davis calling all these damn plays that keep him in the pocket where he just doesn't have the experience to make the right reads. Also, the Horns have no top-level playmakers on offense right now. This will all change during the off season.
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it was in an interview to promote Ep II or something and he was being asked about the universal disappointment of PM and what he had to say to all the fans etc and he said something like 'look, the films are just made for kids they always were - even Eps IV, V and VI - if the fans cant deal with that then they should - i dunno - all go and watch The Matrix or something...'<p> and thats exactly what happened summer 99 - ok PM may have made double the box office but there was only one movie everyone was talking about that summer and it wasnt Phantom (shame they fucked up as bad a Lucas when it came to the sequels - jesus they were as disappointing as PM i think)
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It might at least give them a chance to make up for the last three movies...
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anyone? id i do they going straight on ebay for 1000 a piece
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With everything JJ TREK got wrong about STAR TREK, it was more or less a perfect summer movie...light, dumb, pretty, and at least well-cast. Did it fail to carry the torch of STAR TREK? If a dying half-burnt match is your idea of a torch. PJ KONG was like a Coldplay cover band doing a 20-minute jam version of "I Wanna Hold Your Hand." <br><br>I'd rather watch Burton's APES than PJ's Ape. At least Burton's APES actually tried to have a bit of fun at times.
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id just had a real shitty day at work - a real bad one - the type that calls into question your very existance. anyway i was booked into to see Matrix 2 that night so despite how bad the day had been i still had the sequel to my favourite movie (at the time) to look foward to...<p> i waS SEETHING after i came out the cinema...absolutly disgusted with the movie, my job, my life itself. no one saw it coming did they really - same cast, same directors/writers (promising everyone it was always a planned trilogy in the 1st place)...it was just a killer
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it was either Harry or one of his troops who wrote something along the lines of 'What if i die b4 Ep I comes out' in about 98 or early 99 <p> theres the movie right there
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Oct. 24, 2010, 4:03 p.m. CST
Ol' Neckpouch better get his ass in gear...
by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview
...HArrison Ford's really looking a little long-in-the-tooth lately, he might not haveanother decade in him to wait! PErsonally, even if this does come about... I'll be avoiding the sequels like the fuckin' plague! Got burned with the prequels to an extent that everything Star Wars is anathema to me now.
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Yeah I know I'll get flamed for that, but I don't care. It expanded the themes of the original and took a sharp turn which is what a good sequel should do. The freeway sequence is THE most thrilling action sequence in the last ten years. And I bet you anything the new Superman film will cut and paste flying Neo's moves. Where it failed was it was in execution. The Zion scenes were horrible, the Architect was pretentious. But its still a good sequel and a million times better than Matrix 3 which was just a bland generic actioner.
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I'd rather see a Star Wars Legacy movie than a direct sequel trilogy. I'm not a huge fan of post ROTJ expanded universe, in fact, Legacy is the only expanded universe storyline I liked. Partially because the creators got the Star Wars universe and partially because it's so far removed from the original characters (okay, so Cade is basically a Han Solo-ish Skywalker at times)... and yeah, different writers/directors please. Lucas can come up with the storyline and oversee the look/production sure, but definitely give folks who can work with actors a shot.
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Why wouldn't Lucas make more movies? Because he holds the quality of the material too sacred in his heart? HA! Good one!
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BOUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BOUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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His realistic approach will reveal that light sabers are actually fire crackers, and the Force is an electronic homing transmitter developed by Jedi Master Lucio Fau(Morgan Freeman) at Palpatine Enterprises.
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yeah, nothing could be worse than Crystal Skull, but you still wanna defend the Phantom Penace for some reason. And they were both who's fault???? Yours for even supporting that shit!! and Lucas' too.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST
I liked AOTC best out of the 3 prequels. How gay am I for that?
by Tigger Tales
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They already have the technology to put a 3d face on another body, I mean look what they are doing with Tron. Even if, hopefully not, somebody dies, all they would need is a voice actor.
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I hated it the first time I saw it. But in later viewings, I was able to calmly ignore the terrible acting and mediocre subplots. The Syfo Dyas / clone army story was really awesome, as was the Gladiator-esque climax. I love Dooku, but his battle with Yoda was really stupid and overrated. That's not the Yoda we know and love.
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What did TPM revolutionize... fake looking CG??? problem is a lot of NORMAL people liked JJ's Star Trek. Everyone else were a bunch of nerdy fanboys who have nothing else to vent about but shaky cams and Greedo shot first. People keep talking about TPM because of how much it sucked.. just like people talk about Bush. He's gone, but everyone still wants to blame him for how he fucked up so much!! Keep rationalizing but they're still Turds.
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1. Admiral Thrawn coolness 2. Mark Hamill, as an old Luke 3. CGI shit blowing up in 3D all the time!
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I think you're the closest we're going to have to an actual guy who wears the Darth Vader costume every chance he gets. And the closest we'll get to another Star Wars movie is the original trilogy on DVD, and even those are a little fucked up now because of Lucas' tinkering!! And with the other series, if someone calls the 1st one Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark, they can suck Harrison's dick!! What's wrong with Lucas?
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Pretty damn gay.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 5:05 p.m. CST
"I liked AOTC best out of the 3 prequels. How gay am I for that?
by CARTMANEZ
quite gay id say - AOTC is by surely the 'gayest' star wars movie of all. from Mannequin Skywalkers jack off dream, to the awful awful picnic scenes (with very stilted chemistry between HC and Portman) to HC himself who looked really gay...(i dunno he just looks it - esp in this one)...And im fairly certain Anakin and Obi Wan were having a secret affair,(maybe Yoda and Mace too) plus all the colours and everything im betting its the SW movie gay people like the most (no im not homophobic)
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None of his kids are filmmakers...I honestly think he'l wind up selling the whole Star Wars universe for some ungodly sum within the next 10-15 years. Probably to Disney. I'm actually kind of curious to see what becomes of the Star Wars line once Lucas is gone....I think it'll be like when Star Trek came under the control of guys like Nimoy and Meyers and Berman. Keep in mind,we NEVER would have gotten things like Wrath of Khan and the Death of Spock if Rodenberry had gotten his way...who knows what the NEXT generation will be able to do with Star Wars?
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Cartmanez makes a good point.. the matrix had a greenish hue everytime they were in it. Why the pinkish hue in all those prequels? Was there a subliminal gay message? I felt a little limpwristed after I saw them. Yoohoooo... BraiiiinDRaiiiiinnn. smooch
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You bought a communist TV that started to fade!
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The state of the art digital movie theater recreated it accurately as well. My crappy 24" tube television actually did pump up the pinkishness though, but that was back in 2000. My TV was probably also responsible for the stupid story and unintelligible script too. And the shitty TV speakers were at fault for the shitty dialogue. And my shitty PC monitor is to blame for all the stupid comments you've been writing.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST
Lucas will give half of his property to philanthropic organizati
by KilliK
when he dies.it is officially confirmed by himself:<br /> <p>http://bit.ly/adPjzu
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"The saga grinds on, in state-of-the-art digital video: crisp and detailed yet somewhat overcast, monotoned, seemingly covered in a sort of pinkish-complected skin, like an unboiled wiener." Exactly. So it wasn't my 20" Sony!! http://www.sandiegoreader.com/movies/star-wars-episode-ii-attack-of-the-clones/
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you forgot to mention the shitty nappy you sat in while, you watched it on your TV.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 6:04 p.m. CST
The ONLY way I could possible get excited about this...
by Curious Jorge
is if George Lucas handed off the project to more capable filmmakers and was completely hands-off.
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The guy has good ideas....poor directional skills. He's kinda like Kevin Smith (well, George wins out over tubs o' fun). I'd take a sequel trilogy, hoping it is set after the deaths of our OT cast and it destroys the canon estabished by Dark Horse. That'll get the nerds in a frenzy. Fuck Mara Jade in the ass.....SHE DOESN'T EXIST!
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the best thing about Star Wars is the EU which Lucas has no creative input. He created & inspired the universe, but the it has grown into something beyond what he has to offer. It's bigger than Lucas and he needs to let the property go into the hands of people that can translate the material already out there to the big or small screen.
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Episode 1: The One that isn't as bad as fanboys like to remember <P>Episode II: The worst one <P>Episode III: Some cool parts but stil a missed opportunity <P>Episode IV: The one that changed movies for ever, the most influential film in the history of mankind <P>Episode V: The Dark Knight of star Wars <P>Episode VI: pretty rad but abruptley ended and lots of muppets
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I couldn't care less about re-releasing the movies in 3D, it's time to move on and create new movies. Starting anew after Return of The Jedi would be perfect! Leave the past alone! C'mon George!!!!
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BOUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Lets hope Lucas is only involved as a producer and does not write or direct any of these.
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This bullshit that their story has been told when the birth of Anakin is still so vague is pretty retarded (but what else is new?). I don't mind anyone contradicting or erasing the EU books because those were effectively driven into the ground when they turned Han Solo's son into a repeat of Anakin (complete with tragic death, which is just wrong). Too many shit-pushers worked on that story line. Not that Lucas will do a whole lot better, but a second chance cannot hurt.
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if it does happen, let's not bring the Dinosaur Three back - how about just Mark Hamill in a Kenobi-esque role, forced to usher in a new age of Jedi? I know that there are a shit ton of books out there, mostly bad (I tried to keep up back in the day after the Zahn trilogy) with some fairly mediocre characters. Even the characters that everyone thinks are the best ever are pretty much just cardboard cutouts. I agree that someone visionary should take the reins FAR, FAR AWAY from Lucas. Lucas should just sit WAY THE FUCK BACK and not have anything to do with the latter 3 movies if they have any chance of remotely being worth watching. And someone with a fire for the universe needs to write, perhaps a Whedon/Tartakovsky sort of fellow who can deliver the perfect blend of weight, humor, and epic adventure that the first 2 (IV, V) movies brought to the table. Oh, and those Solo kids should not be a part of the post-Jedi universe in any way shape or form. I opt for a shit on all of the books and comics and a COMPLETELY NEW take on post-Jedi events.
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if it does happen, let's not bring the Dinosaur Three back - how about just Mark Hamill in a Kenobi-esque role, forced to usher in a new age of Jedi? <p>I know that there are a shit ton of books out there, mostly bad (I tried to keep up back in the day after the Zahn trilogy) with some fairly mediocre characters. Even the characters that everyone thinks are the best ever are pretty much just cardboard cutouts. <p>I agree that someone visionary should take the reins FAR, FAR AWAY from Lucas. Lucas should just sit WAY THE FUCK BACK and not have anything to do with the latter 3 movies if they have any chance of remotely being worth watching. And someone with a fire for the universe needs to write, perhaps a Whedon/Tartakovsky sort of fellow who can deliver the perfect blend of weight, humor, and epic adventure that the first 2 (IV, V) movies brought to the table. <p>Oh, and those Solo kids should not be a part of the post-Jedi universe in any way shape or form. I opt for a shit on all of the books and comics and a COMPLETELY NEW take on post-Jedi events.
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During the first trilogy, I thought this was a good idea.<p>During the second trilogy, I was just wishing he hadn't bothered.<p>I'd like to believe a third trilogy couldn't possibly be worse, but this is Lucas, after all.....<p>Third Trilogy: Redemption or Final Destruction?
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...it sure as fuck won't be anyone like Whedon, Abrahms or any other people connected to the genre. It'll be someone completely unexpected. Who would have thought he'd use Kershner for Empire? Nobody saw that one coming. It'll be the same for a new trilogy, someone you least expect.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST
Better get working on it before Harrison's in a wheel chair.
by Hesiod2k7
Or dead.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 8:39 p.m. CST
People -- the Original Trilogy is vastly overrated anyway.
by Hesiod2k7
The same, cheesy-ass dialogouse and stupid plotting as the prequels, except it had a freshness too it, and the actors were perfect for their roles. Go back and watch the original movies without the fanboy patina -- and just critique them for what they are? They are cheezy as hell! They were good clean, fun popcorn entertainment. They were not profound. The reason the original trilogy worked was because the complicated political and religious stuff in them were mostly in the background and were just plot devices ratther than the WHOLE FUCKING MOTIVATING FACTOR OF THE MOVIES. in the Originals, it was just about this kid who loses the only family he ever knows, and gets sucked up into this big adventure, and fins out he's special. The prequel focued way too much on galactic political machinations, and other stupid shit, and not enugh on character. The only "character" that was ever really developed in the prequel was Annakin, but that was ruined by terrible dialogue and horrible acting performances. People took themselves way too seriously.
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It'll be someone completely unexpected... like maybe himself again!!! Just so he can throw a curve at everyone....because underneath the greedy hackiness, he's a pure genius, right?
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...one of the random talk back posters here. Maybe that midget barber, who has to stand on a ladder to cut hair?
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I have no idea what I am talking about.
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I remember...way back in the 80's on ABC during the Saturday cartoons had little news snippets for kids. One was just before the release of ESB, I think, of Lucas talking to a roomful of kids about three trilogies. That he had a grand over-arching mythic story to tell...or I could have been 8 and dreamed it...anyone else remember this?
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Holy shit, that has to be one of the dumbest things anyone has ever written on AICN -- and there's a ton of competition. There is not one aspect of TPM -- acting, dialogue, characters, story, action, ANYTHING -- that is good enough to even be considered CLOSE to being mediocre. It's a total piece of shit. Say whatever you want about JJ Abrams, but people actually had fun watching his Star Trek movie.
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An "art" film by George "Emperor Plaidshirt Neckfat" Lucas.
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You can't really say that Rambo 4 was considered by anyone to be a disappointment can you? Most people thought it was the best of the series. And RE: your comment about Fanboys: Did you know the director of that film, Kyle Newman, is one of the staunchest defenders of the prequels? He helped moderate the "Why We Love the Prequels" panel at SW Celebration V. He jokes that the ending line was a way of making comment about the inevitable backlash.
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Katie Lucas writes for the Clone Wars.
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Get off of TWITTER/FACEBOOK (aol for the 2010s) and read the god dam article
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As someone who was a Star Wars fan, please no more. It will only take shelf space in Wal-Mart from something that might deserve it. While Callum probably wants the gravy train to continue, we should be put out of our suffering. Retire now George, please!!!
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stems from the fact that you can't necessarily look at them as two sequels, but as one 4-hour sequel that just happens to have an intermission. Seriously, Reloaded and Revolutions are much more satisfying when watched back-to-back in one sitting.<P>Now, do I think that they could have been better? Sure I do, but that doesn't mean they suck. If the Wachowski Brothers had focused more on Neo/Trinity/Morpheus, and done one movie, cutting out some of the extraneous stuff in the sequels, I think they would have fared better. Just the ticking clock element alone, of the machines digging to Zion, if compressed into a single 3-hour film instead of two 4-hour ones would have made the experience much more urgent and tense.
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awesome show that's really all I need.
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and figure out how to merge Star Wars with the old school Battlestar Galactica universe? Seriously. Starbuck, now played by Nathon Fillion, is a distant ancestor of Han Solo and Leia. The Adama clan also has a little Skywalker blood. By the time the BSG era starts, the ways of the Force are lost, or way less used by the people of the spacefaring races. Maybe only oracles can use the Force, and in much less of a capacity compared to those in the Star Wars times (Luke, Vader).<P>This of course, would have nothing to do with the re-imagined BSG universe.
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Did you SEE Sphere of Influence and this past Friday's show (Assassin)? Those were the best ever.
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I see that somebody thinks these actors would be too old. Why? Not if the stories take place around the same number of years after "Return of the Jedi" as it's been in real life. Duh!!!
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Too old to begin the training!
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...this will be set far enough in the future most of the characters are dead but we see their descendants in action with possible cameos by the old cast here and there (Who are appropriately aged at this point). The issue is Lucas' age. I think the only way this could happen with Lucas at the helm is for all 3 to either be shot simultaneously or for Lucas to step down and someone else take his place.
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I'm guessing that he will aim for photorealistic CGI of the original cast... making them younger. Similar to what they did to Jeff Bridges for Tron. That way you can have Luke, Leia, Han, Lando, etc... use their voices and make them look considerably younger.
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including the Hobbit news... Say what you will about the Lucas empire but it certainly brings out the passion in people like no other franchise.
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Han and Leia married and had twins who have all that Jedi Juice in their blood and end up going to the Jedi Academy Luke re-opens?<p></p> So Episode 7 could actually begin with the Twins as teenaged Padawans or even newly minted Masters; and keep the on screen time of The Nearly Incestuous Love Triangle to a minimum.<p></p> Of course, since Han/Leia/Luck will look like the deformed Palpatine by the time this films, it would mean Lucas would have to use something he hasn't used in any of the previous 6 films ... flashbacks.<p></p> can't you hear the fanboi reaction to that one already?
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I'd prefer a "Howard teh Duck" prequel trilogy or perhaps a "Radioland Murders" remake. Lucas has been in "Fat Elvis" mode since about 1984. Stop. Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Stop.Please..........STOP
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No go areas were right before OT, where he had plans for the prequels, games & this tv show. Thousands of years before were fine, and from the end of Jedi, right though to the ends of the original heroes lives were fine though, and a million books have covered their hackneyed adventures. I think if he had any plans for this period, these books & comics wouldn't have happened. So it prob will be set way after, if at all.
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I'd rather see something entirely new and leave Star Wars as a happy memory of my childhood.
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I'd rather see something entirely new and leave Star Wars as a happy memory of my childhood.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 4:27 a.m. CST
Dear George - a constructive suggestion - please read...
by LittleManFromAnotherPlace
How about a series of spin-off films from the main saga? Tales From The Star Wars Galaxy; could consist of stand-alone stories spun-off from episodes 1-6 rather than an extension of the main story which, as you've rightly stated in the past, is now complete. These tales could sometimes be told across one film & sometimes across 2-3 films. You are a Great storyteller & an excellent visual & technical Director. In the past, you've achieved fine performances simply by doing lots of takes & then choosing the right ones in the edit suite. Admittedly, doing a series of lots of takes to get performances is impractical when working on a big-budget expensive film so a film of this kind of scale ideally needs an actors director. I think this explains why the performances in EP1 were generally not strong & the performances in EP2 were mixed. However, judging from the level of acting in EP3 and the behind-the-scenes footage of the DVD of Sith, it would indicate strongly that you've learnt to work extremely well with actors. However, with respect, dialogue is not one of your great strengths. I would suggest a return to the directors chair working from stories you have composed yourself whilst letting others write the dialogue for your work (perhaps Laurence Kasdan or Tom Stoppard). May I also suggest that you let other direct these new Star Wars films whilst moving-on yourself from SW as a Director. It would surely make for a more diverse & interesting body of work if your career as a director included all kinds of films as a director rather than mainly Star Wars. These new Star Wars films could independently fund your own future work as a Director. I for one, would love to see another film from you in a similar character-based dramatic veign as American Graffiti. I doubt if you will read this but if you do, I hope you are willing to consider these suggestions.
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They dropped a moon on him so I basically stopped reading. Still get Zhan's books whenever he makes one every 4 years or so, and picked up the Death Star novel and am currently slllooowwwwllllyyyy reading the Millennium Falcon novel but not so much as in the post Heir to the Empire boom that I followed for almost a solid decade.
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Lucas has ever really been bothered by the age of his actors. As result the age of characters is rather messy in the SW films. Case in point: Sebastian Shaw was about 10 years older than Alec Guiness, yet he played the younger Anakin Skywalker who turns out to be about 10 years the junior to Kenobi (and don't give me that retconned appologist crap about how the dark side ages you either). <P> Even the Kenobi character seemed to be in his late 60s or early 70s in the OT... He was Luke's surrogate, wise, old grandfather. Kenobi was even referred to as a "crazy old hermit." Yet it turned out that he was in his late 50s at the time of his "death" if you trust the time line set out by the prequels. That is not even retirement age! <P> On another note, based on that IESB.net article, it seems it might be that these new films are based in the SW universe, but that they are the start of an otherwise new unrelated trilogy - not dealing at all with the Adventures of Skywalker(s). <P> That's if these ever happen... Lucas takes FOREVER to get the ball rolling. I think most fans expected episodes I-III to show up in the late 80s or early 90s. Sure, divorces and the slow R&D ILM did on CG and Lucas raising his kids delayed things a bit, but I think the real reason was that Lucas was hoping SW would just fade away. In the early 90s he had to make a decision: To Start again on a new trilogy or in fact let it die. <P> And how long was Indy IV or Red Tails been in development? A LOOOONG time. It would have been great to see Indy in action during WWII, but because Lucas, Speilberg and Ford couldn't get their shit together there was a HUGE lost opportunity there and no Indy films for about 20 years. <P> I respect that Lucas finances his projects out of his own pocket, but the dude has money. Anyway, Uncle George may croak before they shoot first frame on these. And I likely be a senior citizen if he ever gets these things finished.
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For all the flack he gets for cashing in on DVDs and such, you'd think another trilogy would be coming sooner.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 5:14 a.m. CST
'Episode 1: The One that isn't as bad as fanboys like to remembe
by quantize
Worse really...
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Was that they were REALLY bad, really inept movies. Some of the ideas were good, but they were presented in the most awkward and heavy handed manner possible. Like that completely retarded scene in the park where the Oracle delivers her wooden exposition to Neo followed by the stupidest looking CG kung fu battle ever which ends with the bad guy literally shrugging his shoulders and walking away. Really? That's the best you could come up with? It was like watching a first draft. It was like watching the Phantom Menace all over again.
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We no longer trust you as a director.<P>We sure as hell no longer trust you as a writer.<P>As a producer and He Who Oversees ILM, we trust you very much.<P>Rearrange the hierarchy to outfit any future Star Wars movies, and we will turn out in droves. Otherwise... fuggedaboutit.
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I thought he scrapped the sequel trilogy a long time ago. I remember reading about the three trilogies in Starlog back in the day. But Lucas has been pretty adamant that a sequel trilogy will not happen. I want some credible source cited before I get my hopes yet.
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It won't happen. ONLY post SW sequel trilogy stories if you hear it from Lucas himself.
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I don't know if i should be posting this but...as a special fandom driven revision especially for the OT fans, now many Gungans have been CGéd into the blockade runner shooting at the stormtroopers and the big surprise is that...what all the OT fans have been hoping for ever since episode 1...it is now an older official Jar Jar Binks getting strangled by Vader when being questioned about the Death Star plans: "mesa on a plipdomatic dission & yosa bombad...ekkkkkkkk!" :)
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Oct. 25, 2010, 7:32 a.m. CST
"talking about it, is going to make it miserable waiting for"
by Pumpkihn
The only thing miserable about this will be watching these pieces of shit. At least the kids who grew up with the prequels won't be able to scream "stop raping my childhood!"
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Shit happens. Even to famous people.
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what a POS fan-service story those comics were.and you want them to be the next SWT? are you fucking serious? no wonder the SWU has become a joke to be laughed at the recents decades.<br /> <p>no if there is a chance for the property to regain its former glory,it needs people who are not fanboys or lapdogs,it needs people like Nick Meyer who saved the STU,Nolan who saved the Batman movie franchise,people who do get what SW are but they also can bring their own refreshing take on the SW mythos instead of recycling the same crap that the fans are used to and think they like all these years.<br />
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Oct. 25, 2010, 9:46 a.m. CST
Sign Hamill & Fisher? You could probably get them for scale
by Stan Gable
Why would you even want Fisher at this point - she looks horrible. Hamill would probably kill to take on an Obi-Wan, Qui-Gonn type of role. I doubt they will get Ford excited about any of it, and his character isn't really needed to move the story forward anyway. Once this comes out, all of those who grew up on the prequel trilogy can started screaming about Lucas raping their childhood, and those of us who grew up on the original can bitch that he is now gang-banging ours.
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As far as films, the films are about Anakin and Luke Skywalker - it's a myth, a hero story, and maybe it's totally dumb at times but it's a myth about characters ultimately. Fanboys can have fun with all the B and C level stuff, i.e. Jedi tales from 10000 years ago, or what Bossk had for lunch on his retirement day, all that crap. But the films are never going to be "50 years later, here's the next crew of the Millenium Falcon - Mark II!" like Star Trek. Lucas may have utterly blown his reputation systematically over the last twenty five years, but even now I don't believe he'll ever make a SW theatrical movie without "the Skywalker clan" like that linked article suggests.
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Jerry and Phil from Detention Block AA23 take a personal day so they can "talk things over"; what better way than with a picnic at the beach where they can enjoy a nice Pinot, frolic in the waves and gossip about "that bitch Vader"
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yep the creatures would be excellent again.. no more CGI creatures.
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...if they ever get made. He's already promised he'll re-do the Prequels, after he's finished re-doing the Original Trilogy!<P>Hopefully, any new SW trilogy can improve on the Prequels at least. Interestingly, Marketsaw.com seems to think that Lucas WON'T direct this time, although I reckon it's a little too early to confirm that. Still, we can hope...
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:18 a.m. CST
STAR WARS: EPISODE VII - WHERE THE FUCK IS THE BOARDWALK EMPIRE
by HoboCode
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De-aging Jeff Bridges by 35 years on screen opens a helluva lot of options.
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Yep. I agree on that one. The Burly Brawl from Reloaded isn't even needed if they were to have done a single film for the sequel. Having Neo fight all the Agent Smiths in Reloaded diminishes the impact when they square off at the end of Revolutions. Not only that, the Burly Brawl is way too long.<P>It would have been better if they had done a smaller scale fight sequence between Neo and Smith(s), but in that infinite hallway that the keymaker uses to shortcut access different parts of the matrix. Damn, that would have been much cooler. They could start the fight in the hallway, then burst through a door here or there going into different parts of the matrix city, then back to the hallway.<P>This of course could have come when they were trying to gain access to the architect's chamber, like they sorta did, but did in a lame way in the actual film. A more intense fight before the architect's long exposition scene would have actually worked way better. The audience would need to catch their breath, so a perfect time for Col. Sanders, I mean the architect, to spout his big words and ideas.
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Where can we download this fabled Adywan edit of STAR WARS?<p> I've seen little clips of it on YouTube and it looks cool, but unless it can be downloaded as DVD quality to burn and then play on TV rather than a monitor i prob wouldn't be bothered.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST
Carrie Fisher is now slightly larger than Jabba the Hutt
by Hater_Von_Oldenfatte
In my day, we let them have all the cocaine they wanted.
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You really have no taste. Guillermo and almost every other director out there can direct any 2 minute scene more dramatic and intense than all 3 prequel movies. Give it up.
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head over to http://originaltrilogy.com/ and put in Andywan in the search box. You should get both bittorrent and rapidshare info. Or if you have usenet access, try alt.binaries.starwars
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I admit that the prequels mostly sucked. But I still enjoy the original trilogy a lot. I think a new star wars trilogy would be exciting to see on the big screen. I also think not being restrained by a known story will free the sequels up to have actual TWISTS and SURPRISES. The prequels were too boxed in and concerned with continuity. The only time I was surprised by the prequels (and not pleasantly so) was when Darth Maul got cut in half, leaving a huge vacuum with no real menacing bad guy to fill it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAZUHXB_SRs&feature=fvw
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I watched both Hellboys back to back the other day, and they hold up very well. Likable characters, great style, and entertaining choreography. Also, Guillermo knows when and when not to use CG. And I was never a fan of the Hellboy comics (I tried to read the first one after the movie and didn't care for it). So it's a testament to Del Toro that those films were so entertaining.
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In Episode 7, the child of Leia and Han joins his dad on the Millennium Falcon where they land on a mysterious tropical planet, fight tribal aliens and get attacked by space monkeys...oh wait. Been there, done that. Next...
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And I say YES to the original cast! I'm envisioning a kind of "Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf" scenario with a boozy Leia badgering a quietly seething Solo whilst the two play dangerous mind games with the young Wookie couple who comes for Dinner.
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in the slave costume one more time!!!! OK...maybe not.
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I just looked it up and both Hellboys combined made $260 million worldwide. Pan's Labyrinth made $85 million worldwide. Blade II made $155 million. If no one watched those films, I wonder where all that money came from.
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Are you seriously gonna tell me that makes it a better movie than Empire? I don't give a shit how much the prequels made. They mostly sucked (with the exception of Sith, which didn't completely suck). I wanted to like them, but I don't. Clone Wars series is far better (although this season has been pretty slow). Lucas lost his touch. He forgot what makes stories exciting. It's a shame.
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Well technically I should be more accurate and say matrix franchise. Where the sequels fucked up was that they took what should've been one film and cut it in two... like they literally cut it in two without thought for how it'd pace itself out. Also not only that but vital things were in Animatrix, particularly in the 2nd Renaissance which play THE MOST IMPORTANT PART in seeing where the sequels were heading... Also the video game had a portion of it in its part too so scenes in the game and the movie are only appreciated if you experienced both. Otherwise things in the movies seem like wtf lazy storytelling... The Wachowskis tried to do too many things in too many different directions at once. Insanely ambitious, but ultimately it hurts the experience for everyone who just wanted to watch the sequels... But the Matrix franchise as a whole is still one of the greatest things ever... they could do more with it. Frankly I'd love to see an entire TV series where episodes are stand alone stories contributed by other directors, writers, animators like the Animatrix anthology and also the comic books. Some neat stand lone stories by other people that take advantage of all the Matrix universe offers... Just leave out all that Matrix Online bullshit, I never got involved in that...
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so that will be an interesting choice....
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Thanks for enforcing my point.
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Ditch Leia and Solo. Luke would be the "new" Yoda, so it's ok if he's 70 or 80. Could work. Could be epic. Just make sure Luke is the most badass Jedi of all time.
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There's a reason Tolkien didn't write very much that took place post-War of the Ring, and why he gave up on the planned sequel to ROTK. Because that was the single biggest, baddest, most operatic ending he could think of for his mythology. Anything written afterward would seem so...anticlimactic. Lucas should've realized this, that after the awesomeness of ending his trilogy (chronologically anyway) that all those shitty post-ROTJ books, comics, etc. kind of took away from the grandiosity of the finality of the trilogy. Just let the motherfucker lie, and give us the original trilogy Blu-Ray releases.
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I know Lucas regularly takes a hot piss all over the EU but if we got the Academy trilogy or the Thrawn trilogy, accounting for ages (both of those series took place within 10 years of RoJ) and do it now, or else use 100% CGI, and there's potential for serious badass-ness (provided Lucas neither writes nor directs and only shadow produces in name only).<p>But that won't happen.<p>Do you want to know what WILL happen?<p>Lucas will surround himself with drooling yes men and write a new story in a week and take the disturbing use of CGI that Xmen did with Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan and 'de-age' Ford, Fisher, and Hamil. All of the actors will do it as it means a big paycheck (even though Carrie Fisher sounds like she's chewing on a piece of leather lately) and we'll get some tepid idiotic partisan take on modern politics hidden as unsubtle subtext. Probably the notion of noble helper becoming tyrant or something similarly banal. It will suck and it will make billions, all said and done. And geeks of that day will rant and rave and call each other no-life, momma's basement dwelling asswipes, on this site or something similar.<p>And meanwhile, we still won't have the original trilogy remastered and uncut/unedited on bluray.<p>Seriously, I could barely give a shit about anything Lucas does in terms of Star Wars movies - unless it's a pure video and audio remaster of the original trilogy without any of the new bullshit he infected them with. Not one frame. Lucas can even write on the box, "Here you go you fucking assholes! SW the way you whiney pricks wanted it and the way I say it sucks and I'm a genius! What other human being has brains so big they stretch to the waddle??!! Now shove it up your asses, dickheads!!" and I wouldn't care...I'd even wear the t-shirt. While enjoying my 100% ass-free original trilogy in delicious and nutritious high-definition audio and vidio. NATCH!
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Just wanted to throw in my two cents and say that these books are unapologetically revealing about the production. There's a section in the new ESB book that basically made my jaw drop reading it... all it consists of is a total transcription of what seem to be recordings Kershner made on the set during the time leading up to and then shooting on the carbon freezing set (or it could have been everyone mic'd and this was from the feed?) I have no idea... all I know is it's unbelievable the depth that Ford, Fisher, and Williams went into regarding every single second of their performance and the staging of the scene. There's also a funny aside when Kershner is dealing with all the fucking smoke and chemicals on the set while trying to figure out how to rehearse now that Fisher and Ford basically hate each other and David Prowse walks up to pimp his new fucking weight lifting/exercise book to Kershner... in the middle of trying to put together what is arguably one of the trilogy's most complex scenes. What's funny too is the story Kersh tells on the "Empire of Dreams" doc where he said, regarding the I Love You/I Know exchange, "Harrison, don't think about it, don't think about it, just shoot," isn't what happened. The transcriptions reveal that this is something he and Ford worked through in Kershner's trailer prior to shooting the scene. I actually have a new appreciation for how deeply everyone involved was thinking about their characters and the scenes... at least, as far as I can tell, in Empire. Also, Fisher gets really pissed at Kershner and Ford for changing the scene behind her back, then apologizes to Ford, then does nothing but bitch about how he won't talk to her after that. Kershner, the whole time, is a sounding board, a psychiatrist, an answer machine, and a blender for all their ideas... although I think it's evident from these transcriptions that he gave into the actor bullshit just a tiny bit too much at times, at least as far as the primadonna/insecurity stuff goes. Williams, in particular, gives him a hard time about not knowing certain things and you can tell that he wants to say, "if you just give me a fucking minute, we'll start blocking this thing out and it'll all start to make sense." I've made an indie feature and a few shorts and I feel much better knowing this kind of shit goes on with movies this big and famous as far as blocking out the timing of a complex scene with many different actors. Reading it seriously sounds like a clusterfuck... and I guess it's important for a director to understand that's totally ok as long as you're working towards something.
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Lucas has no involvement whatsoever with the books (excepting the film novelisations), comics, and games (excepting The Force Unleashed). He's even admitted that he has very little clue what happens in them. Del Rey has a contract and makes stuff up to make money; that's how it unfortunately works!
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Come on, either by Lucas' own hand or some other, they will return. You don't have good conflict without good villians, therefore to have ANY more Star Wars movies, the Sith must return in some form or fashion. <p> And repectively, although, I've liked some EU myself, fuck it. People who just see the movies will NEVER care, and really, just label all the EU shit what-if, alternate universe, whatever.
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Lucas always said that the story was split into 3 parts, each part was in itself split into three parts, and he was making the MIDDLE part, then many years later in 1999 he said that there WOULDNT be a sequal and when we saw episode 3 we would understand why, well i still Dont understand why, theres always been a solid reason for the sequals!! the 3 main actors are a good age to play the characters of Solo, Leia and Skywalker many years later, So instead of constantly finding more blood to wring out the original trilogy, then pull your finger out and get on with it?
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heh? heh? HEH?
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<p>I don't care anymore.</p> <p>Sincerely,</p> <p>CherryValance</p>
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And if the prequels are anything to go by, watching them will make it miserable too.
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*whispers* thank you Orcus.
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Better not let George direct.
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smackfu nailed it on the head, I agree 100% Lucas and Gary Kurtz were like Lennon and McCartney- they brought out the best in each other and were weak on their own
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smackfu nailed it on the head, I agree 100% Lucas and Gary Kurtz were like Lennon and McCartney- they brought out the best in each other and were weak on their own
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Oct. 25, 2010, 9:52 p.m. CST
Ep 7: Lucas will cut costs by having some humans entirely CGI
by Tigger Tales
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Oct. 25, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST
Ep 7: Lucas will introduce TIME TRAVEL to series, but botched
by Tigger Tales
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HASSEL UNLEASHED at youtube
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It's all fan fiction quality stuff in the future, no matter how high the pedigree of the writer who writes it from here on in.
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mangle and ruin whatever little residual goodwill remains from the original trilogy. Get the man to write the barest of outlines, then get a real writing team to take over and flesh things out.
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The last 3 were HORRIBLE. Lucas can neither write nor direct. If ya get J.J. Abrams to do it then talk to me. But, well, Lucas is terrible.
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Oh, Uncle George will take your money one way or another, but another theatrical rtilogy set post-jedi. Won't happen.
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No. JJ has Star Trek to Fuck up all on his own. <p> Sequel Trilogy will have to do with Luke letting the Sith out of the bottle again, intentionally or accidentally. The Sith will rise again. The last sequel will end with good triumphing again but with the caveat that they must always be vigilant, especially from the evil within.
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I never watch anything except the original trilogy.
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Three great films were a fluke? Interesting.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 1:28 a.m. CST
Reminder: No Skywalkers in Sequel Trilogy according to report
by NerdRageFanClub
Read, Comprehend, Post.
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Really. The fucking atrocious "new trilogy" destroyed every-fucking-thing that was great about Star Wars.<p>Hence, I don't give a flying fuck about George fucking Lucas' future plans. Star Wars's dead. And forever gone...
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Oct. 26, 2010, 1:43 a.m. CST
Star Wars dead and forever gone at 2.4 billion for the PT
by Tall_Boy66
Dead and gone franchises make 2.4 billion dollars with prequel trilogies worldwide, amirite?
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Here's what Lucas meant: He wanted to tell the story of 3 generations of Skywalkers. With the idea that he could suggest between the lines in Epis. III that Palpatine had willed Anakin into being through the Force, it gave us just that. The Throne Room sequence in ROJ is now that much more-layered!
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with Josh Holloway as Solo. Without Lucas attached in any creative role except maybe Special Effects.
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In which a good writer takes over the reigns and manages to crap out a not-entirely-awful post-OT Star Wars film.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST
EPISODE 9: THE RETURN OF THE CONTINUAL RAPE OF THE CASH COW
by LaserPants
George Lucas not only writes and directs this installment, but stars as all the characters. It is widely held as the most insanely, hilariously awful movie ever made. It makes THE PHANTOM MENACE look like THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. Even though it's widely regarded as the worst movie ever made, it outgrosses everything. Lucas then announces another trilogy.
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Does anyone know why Kirshner did not direct ROTJ? Was he offered the job and declined? Did Lucas not offer him the job? If so, why?
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Exhausted, George threw down the script in disgust and began massaging his furled temple.......What ideas were left? "This is hopeless" he thought...Then from the corner of his eye he spied this single line beckoning him from the discarded script on the floor: Han Solo (shocked) - "Boba Fett? Where?"....Suddenly George knew he had a new trilogy....
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Lucas did offer ROTJ to Kershner, he turned it down for reasons I am not too sure of. Lucas then wanted David Lynch, but he wouldn't touch Star Wars with a 10 foot pole. They then found Marquand. Kershner said (recently) in the press, that if Lucas had started his prequel trilogy 10 years earlier (which was the original plan) he would have wanted to come back to direct.
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Seizing on the political opportunity after the Tibenean Gas Mine Wars of the Organa Administration, Lando Calrissian exposes the Skywalker ties to the Imperial Forces and rises into power as the "Annoited One". Lando then uses his administration to strip the Organas of any politcial clout that they might once had with the alliance as he begins filling the seats of the senate with the 3rd rates and mafiosio from his former ties with the Cloud City. The Jedi have been mariginalized as rightist extremists and Luke Skywalker (the son of Lord Vader) has disappeared into the wilderness of Endor in a scenario that resembles Colonel Kurtz of "Apocaylse Now". Lando has organized a commando mission to extinguish this rightist threat to be led by the son of Wedge Antilles.........Plus lots more of Boba Fett for no reason whatsoever.......
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I read in that brand new making of ESB book, that Hamill and Fisher were contracted to do one more Star Wars film AFTER Return of the Jedi. I believe we will see another trilogy set AFTER the events of ROTJ.
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There are >160 SW novels adn he has to make up his own head trip?
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FUCK YOU I KNOW YOU ARE ALL READING THIS!!
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Oh and look, the rumor was true.
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