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Are We Stuck In Semantic Hell?? The Twins May Be In TRANSFORMERS 3 After All!! Sorta...
Merrick here...
Yesterday we mentioned a forum message over at Michael Bay's ShootForTheEdit site in which Michael indicated that "The Twins" we saw in the second TRANSFORMERS film - aka Skids and Mudflap - would not be in the new movie (details HERE ). Pretty much a good thing, no mater how you look at it.
His post read, simply:
Re: The Autbot Twins are back for TF3!
The Twins are not back in T3.
HOWEVER, seems (at least possible) that shenanigans may be afoot.
LeftLaneNews glimpsed some vehicles on the set of TRANSFORMERS 3, and...lo and behold...spotted two extremely identical cars - both Chevy Sparks - one with green stripes, one with orange - sporting “Autobot” center caps on the wheels. Twins.
You can find a report about, as well as images from, this sighting HERE.
As far as I can figure, this suggests one of three scernarios..
1) We're into some sort of freaky semantic thing here - and Bay simply meant the Twins we saw in REVENGE OF THE FALLEN wouldn't be the same in T3...
2) There has been some (alleged) pre-viz being done for the film. Perhaps these Chevy Sparks were on set as part of that process as placeholders/test vehicles of some sort, but aren't necessarily meant to appear in the picture itself? Not really buying into that scenario...but I suppose it's at least feasible.
3) Bay told us Skids and Mudflap wouldn't be in the third movie to silence early and inevitable doubts and criticisms about their presence (possibly because the characters are being re-worked and he wanted a "fresh" intro)?
All of these possibilities are merely guesses, but seem reasonable enough I suppose. I've got a few feelers out about this and will updated with more details when/should anyone reply with further clarity.
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FIRST!
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Id like to thank my family and god. Thank you all for your support over the years. Its taken many years of blood, sweat and tears to get here
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Never saw the first one, even though my son urged me to. We saw the second one together and even he was disappointed. Is a third necessary?
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They should not produce this bullshit until they get a real script and not just a bunch of toy-sales scenes strung together.
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I mean.....IT'S TRANSFORMERS 3!
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Invariably, someone will come on with the theory that everyone is hopelessly fascinated by every bit of pop culture moviemaking that comes along (the old "You all bitch now, but you know you'll be there on opening day"), and while there's some truth to the fascinated-by part, it doesn't really translate into actually watching these crapfests. I still haven't seen Transformers 2... it really wasn't hard to avoid, after seeing how horrible Transformers 1 was. Of course, I've never actually sat through a Ewe Boll film either, and yet have enjoyed talkbacks about how crappy he is as a filmmaker. At least I know how bad Bay can be first hand.
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there are enough transformers in the original stories to cover all angles. No need to make new ones up, especially if these 2 wastes of space are the best they can come up with. Dinobots. Brawn. Cliffjumper. Tracks. Red alert. Sunstreaker. Even hot rod. Come on bay, use the source material dammit!
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So we will be seeing as much of "the twins" as the pg-13 rating will allow!
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because the camera is shaking so much
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was referring to Megan Fox's boobs. Who cares about the damn robots?
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They have little or no lines and are destroyed in some sort of attack at the very beginning of the movie.
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there are enough transformers in the original stories to cover all angles. No need to make new ones up, especially if these 2 wastes of space are the best they can come up with. Dinobots. Brawn. Cliffjumper. Tracks. Red alert. Sunstreaker. Even hot rod. Come on bay, use the source material dammit!
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There in the back round, or part of the action but don't say anything.
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May 12, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST
I LIKE IT WHEN BOB ORCI AND DON MURPHY SHOW UP.....
by TehCreepyThinMan
That's when the fun really begins.
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The Twins Stay! Of all the things to get butt sore about the twins were the lest of Transformers 2 problem. And to waste time trying to find out if they are part of Transformers 3 line up. Serious I feel Samuel Bayer fan attack speach coming up. Bring back the racial sterotypes!!! Fuck PC. PC is killing comedy!
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Are the Twins 'racist' or not today?<p> Is it this week or next week that is 'TDK Was Shit' week? And I can't remember if I'm allowed to enjoy IM2 today or not.<p> At least I know I will NEVER have to worry about pretending the Star Wars prequels were good.
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pumishes the decepticons by attaching them togeather ass-to-mouth and making a centi-con.
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As long as there are two good scenes of my 20 year man-crush Optimus Prime kicking ass to that sweet, sweet heroic theme composed by my dude Steve Jablonsky, my ass will sit through 2 and a half hours of absolute shit!!! I remember getting high as a motherfucker and going to see my childhood hero in Transformers 1 opening day. When that music kicked in and I heard Peter Cullen's voice I just jizzed in my pants right then and there! I will always have those moments, no matter how much shit Mr. Bay surrounds them with.
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real director and not just a soul-less industry drone on auto pilot.I hate these stupid go-bot movies anyway.
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Unless he's writting his script for the upcoming inevitable flop cowboys and aliens.<p>You have been warned!
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May 12, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST
Don't make me come down there and whip ya cyclops lookin ass!
by TheJudger
see did anyone get mad about that racist stereotype. Did any one cry foul when black dynamite was peppered with the shit. Policia has no place in films. It's about challenging everything. As if bad boys was some what stereotyped. Come on already- stop taking films at face value. LEty them twins eat em some chicken and watermelons, drink em some 40's and grape soda, smoke some kush while riding around in wips with 22 inch rims B. I was watching a aqua teen hunger force episode the other night and shake was bite by an atomic black man and he became black and frylock and meatwad tried to make him white again by painting him with white house paint, chemically straightened his fro and forcing him to swim. What fucking world is it where it's ok to do this shit on ATHF but not in a transformers movie. The tv show was a fucking joke the cartoon movie was awesome. Put it into some perspective and realize the mantle is mainly a related to your childhood conception of the characters and not the actual way they were portrayed.
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Take Transformers the animated movie, and remake/reboot note for note with live action! Yeah, that'll happen...bring back BLUR!!!
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i iz the sorriez
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the movie would still suck on all levels without not one redeeming scene whatsoever. I'm surprised no one came up with the user name: "Devastator's_Balls" as of yet.To paraphrase the lyrics from Pink Floyd's The Wall;"We don't need no fucking sequels.."
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and becuase of that i can take the films at face value. the first one was entertaining but it felt off, the second one was all over the place and kinda boring. I didn't go home and cry over it. I dont have any transformer toys to cry too.
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Ugh.
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i am reading iron man sucks, i hate remakes so nightmare isnt for me. I hate game adaptions and i never played or would care to play the prince of persia. I have no idea what movies are worth my government money this summer and it pains me to no end.
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Inception is coming...In Nolan We Trust. :)
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Expendables- yeah but i'm sure it wont be the best man action 80'sploit film ever. I will want more than we are given. <P> Piranha 3d- crap but entertaining crap <P> Inception- Will it be another Prestige film. where everyone creams over it and it has an illogical ending that sorta shits all over the place and ruins the entire cooler parts of the film. LEts face it nolan make wonky gadgets that do shit that either A: can be done or B dont make any fucking sense. Who dies every night- he killed his clones or himself or both- and then wait why do i care. I cared when i thought it was his clone but then he said it wasnt sometimes. so what the fuck!!!!! and if it was a clone why did the clone know about the gun that he set up to kill the clone. fuck it my mind is turing to jello. <P> Predators- No thanks!!!!! Fuck this movie!<P> Tron Legacy- Fucking have to wait till Xmas. Xmas !!!!!!! Shit..........
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I said "can". I fucked up!
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Maybe they will have a horrible death, like 2 minutes into the movie, that would be even more awesome that not being in the movie...
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you can count me out. I heard the reviews, missed it at the flicks but hired it out on Blu Ray. I was thinking "Hey, it's Bay, $200 million or so and some giant robots fighting. This should be sweet!". <p> The first was hokey, badly scripted and wayyy too long. Yet the action was kind of zen-like in it's epileptic craziness. The second put me to sleep. The humour was fucking woeful. It is as bad as Batman and Robin, Speed 2, Catwoman and Godzilla. I will not waste any more of my time.
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they get destroyed in the first 5 minutes!
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I think that sums him up well, a got lucky chap who likes big bangs and doesn't really have a deeper understanding of why some people find his overtly simplistic life view offensive, I think Hasbro must be mental to let him anywhere near there property, oh yeah all they care about is cash, my bad.
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May 12, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST
The Judger... While I like The Prestige...
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
I get your beef. Inception is high on my list this year.
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Step and Fetchit.
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Coonery and Buffoonery.
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like the good and bad dudes at the end of Dark Crystal. So that they're both one dude. Who is boths good and bad. They are one. So they're not twins. Per se. Bay speaks truth.
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so funny...my wife and I were watching Prestige last night and having that same discussion...<p>I think that Angier was always the original Angier. He's the one who grabs the gun, since he knew he put it there. <p>All he was saying is that there was a risk, that he didn't know if he would be in the tank or safe.<p>But since he's there to say that, and express that worry, it seems to say then that he made it out ok each time.<p>The bigger question was whether Borden and Fallon only slept with their own women, or whether they shared both...
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In other words he's reading other websites to see if he can find some news to steal and repost here, which is pretty much all he ever does anyway. And he even does that later than pretty much everybody else on the entire internet. Fucking clown shoes.
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May 12, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST
My top five for future film excitement!!!!!
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
1. The Human Centipede.... <p> I must be sick or something. I hate Saw, and pretty much any horror film made of late(outside of The Orphanage and The Descent) yet I feel the need to see this. One of my favorite films of all time is Cronenbergs The Fly. I just hope this comes close to offending me as much. <p> 2. The Expendables. <p> I am sooooooo fuckin there. <p> 3. Inception. <p> Nolan, Leo, cities bending upon themselves and a mystery afoot!!! I am avoiding everything I can on this. <p> 4. Tron 2. <p> The dude abides...with lightcycles! <p> 5. Predators. <p> PLEEEEAAAAAASSSEEEE DON'T SUUUCKKKK. This could be pure wish fullfillment or another Rodriguez wank-fest. I dig the mans' style and all but outside of El Mariachi, From Dusk till Dawn(even that has some terrible shit) and Sin City his films are pretty bad.
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A pickup truck autobot with a sidekick lawnmower bot. Their names are Manuel and Labor.
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I think this has happened before.
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DAgnabit!
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I think the twins will be destroyed early in the big opening that blockbusters have to pull you in before they slow down into the story. So while they are 'in' the movie, they really aren't IN the movie...if they aren't killed off, the new chevy sparks models is them in a 'repaired' and unretarded mode...?
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The clone thinks the gun is there as well, because he is a clone. He thinks he is the one who is being cloned from, not to. As for the chance, because the Angier who survives has had the same past memory of all of the pre-surviving Angiers, he has lived the safe part everytime and to him, he feels like it is always him being safe, even if he's not, but then the other Angier who was safe has the same memories, so then HE thinks he's been the one who's safe everytime. You following me? I'm confusing myself...I must stop now....
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Didn't he lose pretty quickly in TF2?
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thingy.
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Despite all the complaints on these past couple of threads about Transformers - as long as enough people go, they'll continue to crank out the crap. Don't go see it, don't buy the DVD, etc. In fact, do go to whatever crap fast food place has the toys.
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May 12, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST
Bay said that Megatron wasn't going to be in Tranny 2
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
He lied.
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are the only films worth a damn this year.
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or even with the twins in it. Transformers 3 is still going to suck harder then a buck-toothed Filipino hooker.
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... IF you care at all about this topic...
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The twins WILL be in it because Michael Bay wants them to be in it. Whiny fanboys will whine and call them Jar Jar x2, etc. The film will be released next year and all the whiny fanboys will go and watch it. Transformers 3 will make a minimum of 600milllion. Whiny fanboys will come on here and say it was the worst movie they ever saw. Michael Bay will not care.
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I looked for clips of the twins on youtube but couldnt find anything, can anyone direct me to a sample of their awfulness?
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I-DI-OTS. Hah! God I hate humanity.
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it's cheet
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here's some youtube: <p> http://tinyurl.com/24ohapu
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I have to go now. My planet needs me.
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That'll shut this up and we can get back to REAL news.
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Yes, I heard Mudflap runs a fried chicken restaurant and Skidmark operates a watermelon stand.<p> Hey, don't shoot the messenger--I didn't write these character(tures)
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May 12, 2010, 12:13 p.m. CST
Who gives a fuck. With or witout twins these films are shit...
by Pdorwick
...total, irredeemable shit.
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I find the furor over these two characters funny. Harry and other WHITE people taking offense to them for reasons they have no real basis for. I saw Transformers 2 in a packed theater and both characters received the loudest laughs. Almost the whole row of people in front of me was black and not one time did they have any derogatory comment, in fact, laughed as hard as everyone else. I have several black friends who have never mentioned any issue with the two characters. So I find it rather interesting that the most vocal people about these characters are interpreting racism where those it apparently attacks don't. The insinuation that these are meant to represent a particular race seems to point directly back to those interpreting these characters and says more about how they view others than anything the actual characters represent. I know many white people who sound exactly like these characters due to the culture they have grown up in. Perhaps these characters are meant to represent a specific culture, that is multi-raced, not a specific race? Could possibly the prejudice of those interpreting these characters be the real source of the racism not in the characters creators or the characters themselves? Food for thought.....
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at all the free publicity this movie is getting. I beg the site masters to STOP POSTING SHIT ABOUT TRANSFORMERS!! If you want it to go away, don't say anything about it. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." I HATED the first movie, but it didn't matter because it made a shitload of money. I didn't even see the second movie, and it didn't matter even more because it made even more money. TF3? It's box office gross will blow the other two out of the water. Why? Because people are fucktards, and these movies are created for fucktards, so fucktards will go see a fucktard movie. We shit and shit and shit all over this movie, but it doesn't matter because we're still giving it the time of day. I say we STOP saying anything about these friggin' movies, because then they'll disappear.
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I'm aware of the silliness of me talking about not talking about a movie, but still talking about it. It was, uh . . . intentional.
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i like how they putr people in their place by highlighting sterotypes
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..this "whiny' fanboy will avoid TF3like the AIDS Virus.I"ll hold out for better films like say; Captain America and Thor?
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To be honest, no I wasn't offended--but yeah they clearly seemed archetypal hip-hop cardboard cuts outs with certain proscribed character traits. I won't miss them if they're gone, but mostly because I didn't think T2 was that great anyway.
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Homey told me for schnizzel that thems robots was totally off the hook, for real, and that he's fixin to like, boycotts T3 if Bay don't get some sense up in his grill.
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will teabag your face in 2012
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that was even worse than I expected.
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And Barack Obama too, from the looks of things.
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YOU JIVE TURKEY BOT
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for hood robots that be callin each other out by dey names, muggin n shit. Bay is disrespectin me as a GROWN MAN who pays his bee-alls if he be thinkin he gone school me on dis again, I'll smack him upside his nizzle sno'nuff. Dat jack be trippin, yo
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They had a few good lines and grew on me after a while. I just didn't like their language in a movie aimed at 5-10 year olds EVEN THOUGH IT'S PG-13. I personally don't give a shit, I curse like a fucking sailor and thought they were raunchy and un-PC as fuck, but the kids? Hmm. I do like their new look though. I'm surprised no one's mentioned the spray painted stuff on the dumpsters in those pictures: The crossed out Autobot insignia that says GO HOME underneath it. I'm assuming the Transformers aren't receiving a warm welcome after their existence is revealed (So fucking anticlimactically, ugh.) in TF2?
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Peter Sellers in da house schoolin homeys<p> http://tinyurl.com/9gxgnx
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You be funny fo' a white boy.
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on the candy-coated outside I may be all panky and stanky, but yo--check dis--inside where it counts, y'all, I be every color of da unity rainbow fuh schnizzel
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Rimjob & Buttplug! <p> What could anyone find offensive about the new additions to the autobot squad?
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michael bay deserves to be damned for lying.
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But Chuck Norris Potato sacked her.
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You be representin' all da white boys wit flava, homes. Respeck, dawg.
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May 12, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST
or heres a posibility, you dont know WTF you're talking about
by EddieMurphysLaugh
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to all da homeboyz here representin. We aint intendin no disrespeck
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entertaining talkbacks ever. Keep 'em coming -- I'm laughing my ass off!
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Check it, dat bitch Bay jess emailed me dis schnizzel, I'm gonna school his white a$$<P> http://tinyurl.com/aatlb3
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Terminatah X-it<br> Turn it up<br> Bring da racial stereotypes
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Will the "Twins" be skiing down the side of the Empire State Building while the ghost of James Brown sings an Autotune version of "Living in America"
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With or without the twins, TRANSFORMERS 3 will be shit, anyway.
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Will the "Twins" be skiing down the side of the Empire State Building while the ghost of James Brown sings an Autotune version of "Living in America"
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You are no where near as funny as you think.
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Nor is Michael Bay. Which is the point here.
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But he was. The Bonneville flats doesn't have enough salt grains to cover a Michael Bay press release.
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Warrior Princess of the Internet?
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Really all Bay's films are good for is the snark and hate that precedes them. Entertainment gold.
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you care because the clone has the same memory as the original, he kills himself every night and he knows it's coming...that's pretty awful. incredible film.
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He was referring to the lady motorcycles.
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like the great danton, i wish michael bay would kill himself every night. (of course it would only end up being 1 night's worth of killing.)
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since his ego is so immensely large
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Like if there's a big Autobot assembly or battle, they're in the mix -- but they have no dialogue. That's also a possibility.
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bravery of the twins, the smallest of the autobots, who went up against the largest decepticon, devastator, like it was nothing.<P> If they die in this movie I want Ironhide to poor oil on the street for the "dead homies"<P> Also Jetfire is races because he talks like a stereotypical scottsman and there is rampant ageism since he walks with a cane and has a robot beard.
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They should be in this film. They are CHARACTERS, not models for the existence of the black race. If they were the stereotypical bumbling rednecks nobody would be complaining.
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You know why Bay doesn't mock the rednecks in his movies? Because he makes movies designed specifically for that audience. Bay knows who his audience is, and it's good business not to insult them.
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Transformers 1 & 2 were cinematic masterpieces. Optinuts Prime and Megatits fighting it out with humans runnin' amuck in their wake! I remember watching Transformers when it all started, with Beast Wars. I'd rather see the originals, the Ape Prime fighting on big screen than these weird cars and what not. Transformers aren't cars and tanks! They're critters like apes, dinosaurs and donkeys!! wtf! But other than turning them into cars and trucks it will be amazing to watch it all!! Oh and I've felt Megan Fox's 34B's and they're pretty nice!
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...and robots killed during TF2 during that final action scene to pad out the roster. If they throw those vehicles on screen to get their sponsorship quota filled during a few 360 degree twilight driving scenes (the equivalent of John Woo's doves in the Bay catalog) who really cares?
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I have high hopes for Thor, but Captain America has an average director, and unless they make some drastic changes to that costume: the red pirate boots, the big stupid A on his forehead, the wings, the colour scheme...fuck me, I'm starting to sound like a whiny fanboy, and I don't even read comics.
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THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!<P>THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!<P>THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!
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ITS A MOVIE FOR BABIES so why are you geting angry just look at alll the BOOOOMMMSSSSSS and the PREATY colors (like AVATAR) and then go buy the nice toys
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Maybe in part 3 they might want to give the biggest autobot role to... I dunno... OPTIMUS PRIME?
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May 12, 2010, 7:56 p.m. CST
Hopefully there is 2 more and they all turn into 1 big ass robot
by Saen
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Bring Step n Fetchit back. And the lil crab one that talks like a Nazi, and the remote control car one who talks like a Sopranos reject. Keep fucking it up Bay, because the worse you screw the pooch, the quicker we get a reboot. Lets hope 3 is the magic shitbag number the way it was for the fake Spiderman franchise.
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they should scrap this fucking project, fire Bay, and reboot the entire franchise with a real director.
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have to be in this film.. Or I am not watching it...
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They are simply going to be in the background out some point, but won't actually featured at all. Kinda like how they phased out jar jar...
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....people are actually considering seeing Transformers 3? Did you not see the other two?
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WAS A GOOD FILM....... BECUZ STUFF EXPLODED AND THINGS WERE MOVING FAST. masterpiece. it should have got an oscar for best acting, and best new characters. TDK will never hold up to Transformers 2
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AS THE WORD "ADAPTION"! If you use that 'word' I'm going to shoot and stab you in your sleep, you CUNT.
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but it's not.
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I do. The bizarro ghettobots are every bit as cool as seeing Bill Cosby fire a 357 in Mother, Juggs and Speed. I have no idea what the fanboy hatefest is. Its not racism like with the black kingpin backlash... because these fanboys all groove to black Nick Fury... so I kinda don't get it. Should negrobots all talk like Paul Robeson and warn sternly against anti-communist blacklisting to be considered "real" negrobots? I mean... Harry admits he doesn't see MTV and I'm sad to say that the twins are way the hell more mature than Lil Wayne, lil flip, TI, princess, diamond, ludacris, paul wall, or trick daddy. No really.
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White guilt is do funny, but blatant racism is even funnier. Grow some balls and make a stand.
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but then i got high and watched it a second time and i thought they were pretty funny despite all the shittt i was talking about them before. They did hold their own against Devastator. If they return, maybe they should get beefed up or something. Umm, how about Laser Cannons attached to their faces?!
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Love this "White Guilt" word I_shot_Cyrus. Brilliant! Like "Chocolate Disapointment" Brilliant.
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...They gave it just that added amount of "suck" to push the film from merely being a depressing waste of time into true "FPOS" status.<p> It's kind of like how Jar Jar Binks converted PHANTOM MENACE from a "Meh-pic" into an EPIC FAIL.
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I agree with all the "white guilt" rants... Just because a white guy directed the film... Have you all actually seen BET or all the "rappers" someone mentioned above, the twins don't seem too far off. After all if the transformers learn from the internet, cable or whatever--its not too farfetched--considering a movie about giant alient robots.. I hope they make a Twins spinoff! Bad Boys 3: Mudflaps and Skids.
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Which illustrates a good point; most stereotypes derive from FACT. A lot of hip-hoppers DO act that way (ie like clowns). Yes it is a stereotype, one I think Bay used for humor (even if I didn't find it that funny, not because I'm an uptight white guy, but because I work in the penal system and must deal with knuckleheads like that all the time and would prefer it if kids not pick up on that behavior).
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I have been saying this from the start!!! THE TRANSFORMERS ORIGINAL ANIMATION Movie from the 80's KICKED ASS --- It had a great story, with a begining, middle and awesome ending. That all made sense and transitioned smoothly. It made you Laugh, Cheer, & even Cry... (Every kid was Niagra Falls when Optimus Died) It also had some KICK-ASS songs like --You Got the Touch and Dare... PLEASE just remake this movie and BAY you will have Total Redemption
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I thought I read somewhere when TF2 came out that the twins were supposed to be a play on wiggers. Obviously they are not black humans, but they are trying to act the way they THINK black humans act much the same way lame ass white suburb teens try to take on ghetto culture that they learned from Eazy-E and Ice Cube. In the first one they (lamely) established that the autobots got what they know about humans from the web/media. Obviously that could present a pretty slanted view. Is it OK with everyone if Bay makes fun of white people trying to be black?
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i mean, really, of all the things to complain about. a few of the things they sputtered out during their dialogue in the movies were actually kind of funny. then again i am a racist pig who enjoys that kind of humor. kill whitey!
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He did out-and-out lie to us about Megatron not coming back, after all.
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There is a difference between "non-offensive" and "kicked ass". If I come into a public restroom and I see shit in the toilet, I'm not offended, but I don't think it "kicks ass" either. The twins are a non-smelly piece of shit in a public bathroom filled with explosions and tits. It's not a room I particularly want to be in anyway, but the piece of shit is far from my favorite thing about being there.
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I mean that idea alone is fucking retarded. I remember the, presumably meant to be 'sweet car hard-on' inducing, photo of the new fancy-schmancy car Bay was using for Tranny2 and after the new designed camaro from Tranny1 I'm like, does this fucking dude think? Not walk, talk, or shit but just think? "Robots in disguise" goes the themesong, yes? Wouldn't the best disguise be a fucking Maxima or Camry? Maybe a Dodge Dakota? I mean even if you're not a car enthusiast, my guess is you'll notice a concept car driving down the road. So the idea of him getting the use of these admittedly badass cars for his movie is yet one of practically millions of reasons why these movies are .<p>That doesn't mean they can't be enjoyable but yet again, that old review I read about 'Independence Day' where the reviewer said "It's as if the script was written by a 12 year old boy." holds true for practically everything Bay does. He has a brilliant effects team that he basically ruins with his idiot editing and shaky-cam. Everything else just gets worse. Megan Fox is hot, to be sure, but if you think that saves or makes the movie tell me you still feel the same way after you've been laid for the first time.<p>Of course...picking on these movies is like throwing rocks at blind people. Easy.<p>As always, there's no accounting for taste. But I still try to find some appreciation beyond the f/x and just don't get it. Hip-hop Autobots? Really? Hip-hop? Why not cajun? That would be stupid but at least not as predictable. And they transform into never before seen concept cars so they can hide in plain sight? I'd probably be able to buy Bay's nonsense if he stopped stroking his ego all over the screen and just fucking thought for more time than it takes to say "That would be fucking awesome!"
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Transformers 3 will likely be atrocious. Transformers 2 was atrocious. So it's pretty inevitable. Transfomers was decently enjoyable and sorta unique the first time. The sequels are more of everything bad in that movie. They are awful, terrible movies. Even if the ghetto twins aren't back some other awful assault on common sense and taste will be present. I can already see the marketing assault on this piece of shit is going to be fucking insufferable.
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They just disappeared during that scene with John Turturro.
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If they do, they are in serious need of psychiatric help.
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Michael Bay himself has said he will spread false info about the transformer movies to spread hype.
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Anyway. I'll never see it so it doesn't really matter.
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kickass was sarcasm... My point was more along the lines of I wasn't so pussified like many were. Sure they were kind of stupid... Who cares? To me they were no worse than bumblebee pissing on Section 7 guy... But my comments on stereotypes weren't that far off--agree with snowcone. Anybody remember that movie with Segal and the hiphopper (not DMX the other one)--with his hat pulled down to make his ears bend? that guy was just like one of the twins--yet he was serious.
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