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RUMOR CONTROL! Let’s Talk About CLOVERFIELD/SLUSHO/1-18-08!
Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.
If we’re going to talk rumors about INDY 4 this morning, we’ve definitely got to spend a little time talking about CLOVERFIELD.
Now, before you say, “well, how do we know you know anything?!”, let’s take a look back at the first mention of the film here on the site. On June 21st, before the first screening of TRANSFORMERS with the trailer attached, before anyone outside of Paramount had mentioned word one about the film anywhere, we broke the entire story here on the site. Check it out for yourself.
That story was also used to challenge the veracity of a blog that claimed to be about the production of THE DARK TOWER. I’ve since learned that the guy who ran that blog may well have been hired to be on an Abrams film... just not the one he thought he was working on. That may have been the first leak on CLOVERFIELD, but he didn’t know enough to make it worthwhile. I followed up this piece with more details on June 25th, and together, those two stories became the basis of almost everything you’ve read since.
When I wrote that story, I didn’t realize that Abrams was going to be pursuing a sort of veil of complete secrecy around the film, and I didn’t know he’d be creating a game leading up to the release. I actually feel bad that we sort of spelled it out as completely as we did. The one thing that he should be happy about is that no one really knew what the hell CLOVERFIELD was, so they didn’t read the article when I ran it. It certainly didn’t set the world on fire until people saw the trailer themselves, at which point we got flooded with e-mails asking, “What is that trailer? Why don’t you know anything about it yet?”
Well, 90% of everything that’s out there now came from one source, guys. Me. I broke the following facts about CLOVERFIELD exclusively: The title being a cover. It being a giant monster movie shot as if from a hand-held video camera. The low budget on the movie. The fact that Drew Goddard is writing it, and that Matt Reeves is directing it. The fact that the creature is nicknamed “the Parasite” by those working on the film. I described the trailer beat-for-beat before anyone outside the studio had seen it.
And yet nobody is citing us as the source of that information. Check out this asshole. And, yes, I just called you an asshole, Kirk Montgomery, because you’ve passed off other people’s work of the last two weeks as some sort of exclusive on your part. You didn’t learn anything “exclusively,” since everything in your article is regurgitated from other sources. You’re not the first person to simply re-run the information we broke about the movie in the past ten days, but you make it sound in your article like no one else anywhere has already written about the viral marketing sites or the way it’s being shot or the budget. There’s not a single piece of new reportage in your piece, and the way you try to make it sound like you somehow broke this wide open makes you... well... an asshole.
I don’t blame him, though. I’m sure he was told to write a story about this by his editor, and that’s because this has become a huge deal very quickly. Already, we’re starting to see some backlash in the talkbacks, as people talk about the film being overhyped. Fandom moves so fast these days that they’re starting to reject movies that are still shooting based solely on things like release dates or their own illogical expectations. Case in point: the way people started to get really attached to their pet theories about what this film is. “It’s VOLTRON!” “No, it’s a LOST tie-in!” “It’s not a movie at all! It’s just a LOST season four promo!” “No, it’s GODZILLA!” “No, it’s C’thulu!”
And when it turns out to be none of those things, fans are going to hold it against the movie, as if they were promised something. But they weren’t. They’ve been projecting, and they’ve gotten invested in their own ideas, and now they’re going to be mad when the film isn’t what they decided it should be.
Relax. Seriously. In a way, I don’t think JJ Abrams had any idea how much his teaser would set people off, but in another way, I think he got exactly what he wanted.
I have a theory about Abrams. I think he was a biiiiiig fan of Disneyland growing up. One of the great things about going to Disney (I lived near Orlando as a kid, so I always think about the Magic Kingdom when I think of the parks) is the way they don’t just have rides. The rides actually begin the moment you step into the park. Everything on the property is about setting a mood, getting you ready for the rides. When you’re standing in line, you get gradually immersed in these environments that drop you into the world you’re about to visit. Like the grave stones outside the Haunted Mansion or the docks on the Jungle Cruise or the ramps up into Space Mountain. You start the ride before you start the ride, and I think that sums up the attitude JJ Abrams and Bad Robot have towards entertainment now. Don’t scream at Abrams that he owes you all the answers right now. He doesn’t. Not yet. He’s got six months to go before this film comes out, so all he’s trying to do is get you intrigued. Hooked a bit. I’d say he more than accomplished that task. Now let him give you the bread crumbs as a game, and enjoy it. You’ll get onto the ride soon enough, and then it’ll be over, and why rush that? Why not enjoy the build-up?
When you get overexcited, you get an Ethan Haas situation, and people spend a lot of energy that they shouldn’t spend in the wrong direction. To be clear, all the Ethan Haas sites are interesting and well-coordinated, but none of them have anything to do with CLOVERFIELD. Instead, they are marketing for an upcoming game called ALPHA OMEGA by Mindstorm Labs. Cool stuff, but it’s not connected to the film at all.
I think the one thing that’s undisputable about the trailer is that it worked. It got people talking. Not putting a title on the teaser was a genius idea, and someone deserves a promotion for that one touch. I think that, more than anything, got people buzzing. People seem intrigued at the idea of a whole film being shot like that, and that’s pretty much what you’ll get. The film starts with a rescue crew cleaning up after the entire incident, and one of them finds a camera. They rewind the tape, press play... and the playback is the movie that unfolds.
I promise... we’ll keep you updated as more things break on this one, but for now, I think people are actually overanalyzing and they’re starting to invent things, create sites to support their crazy theories, and it’s all turning into such an overwhelming sound that it’s going to start to turn some people off.
Me? I’m excited and intrigued, and I look forward to learning more about the film as it develops.
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cant wait for this movie. sounds interesting
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If so, great succes
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Thar must be a curse upon me.
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sorrry mate.
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Let's keep things civilzed, shall we? We benefit the most from peacefully discussing the facts and vaguely touching the rumors.
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You are hereby forgiven.
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thats my conspiracy lol
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I wonder if the people Moriarity refers to (ITS GODZILLA! ITS VOLTRON! ITS T3H MOTHRA LOLZ!) actually read and internalise these type of AICN stories and actually relax. Sometimes I think they just see the title of the article and post whatever blows through their mind.
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apparently more than a little pissed that you aren't getting the credit you deserve for breaking the story, heh.
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I do feel bad that we pantsed JJ just before he was able to release the trailer, and if I'd known how much it was all going to be played as a secret, I would have done it differently.
But I did break the story, and especially when people love to say, "Oh, you never scoop anything anymore," it's important to credit us for the work we do. We broke this story, and it's turned into perhaps the biggest story in movie news for the last few weeks. I'd like it if people didn't just boost our work and take the credit for it. -
I know most of us have watched the trailer frame by frame and picked out what is appearing on the 'net, but has anyone noticed the magical lampost???
Watch the trailer again! as they come running down the stairs and into the street and the mayhem, check the building opposite!!!
There is an arched window, boarded up I think with some grafitti.
No check the kerb as the guy moves to the left of the frame. There is a base of a lampost but no lampost!!!
The camera then pans up the street and then eventually pans back.
Hey Presto, the lampost appears!!!
It eventually get bowled over by the Libert head!!!
Why go to all that trouble???
Any thoughts?
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That says it all, really.
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... because the lamppost wasn't really there. It's CG, and when the head takes it out, you're looking at an effect. Maybe by pointing it out, though, you can make sure an animator fills it in during the first part of the shot so the continuity works.
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It's Manbearpig! I'm totally serial! Guys, come on, I'm totally serial! Manbearpig loves to destroy statues, especially ones of liberty. Nobody thinks I'm serial but I'm totally serial.
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Exactly. Too often silly opinions are set forth without actually reading the material. I soo hope people fully red this one, cause its wise words from Mori. People could learn a lot from this sum-up and we could avoid some annoying Voltron/Lion claims..
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If Moriarty is right about the video camera being played as the start of the movie, then I'm starting to wonder if Abrams only likes to tell stories this way. Alias many times, Mission Impossible, Lost flashbacks....the guy has a thing for storytelling in reverse.
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What's with the white circle on the back of the guys shirt as he running away??
Regards,
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Are you serial?? Serially?
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The letters on the back of the sign on the lampost as the Liberty head comes to a stop.
Regards,
Disapproval for which tell -
So it's an evil SLURM Type of monster that you drink too much of?
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Still, could be very cool. I'm interested...
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It said Cloverfield in the top corner, but linked to a tossing game site. Explain more!!!
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... a hastily-put-together site owned by someone with no connection to the film. They took the fact that we reported the nickname "The Parasite," and they turned it into a site that they knew would get traffic so they could pimp that game site.
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imagine Vivian, Rick, Neil, and Mike rampaging through New York in an Omnibus driven by the never-aging Sir Cliff Richard.... ...it plunges the soul into an abyss of madness beyond Cthulhu's wildest dreams...
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... damn typo right where it fucks up the whole post ...
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I hear ya Mori. I had a bit of overhype m'self when I saw the 1-18-08 trailer here on youtube. However, (and this is preemptive on my part I know) this doesn't apply to Peter Jackson for JLA! for: a) It hasn't happened yet *knocks wood* and: b) The only one hyping this is me. Sorry to segway a little but I really, really, REALLY want a Peter Jackson JLA and I know Hollywood talks to you guys. Peter Jackson for JLA!
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It was there when I bought the car, I swear.
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Personally i thought the teaser was LAME!!!!!
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Is it going to be called 18-1-08 here in blighty?
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Many people will be "let down" by the film regardless, purely because they are already projecting what they enjoy onto the film. This happens with virtually any teaser, and this is part of the reason teasers can work very effectively: They're like a carnival sideshow...they give you a glimpse of something amazing, something that can trigger the imagination, in an effort to get you to possibly plunk down that $5. We project our hopes onto that glimpse, and we give it a life that we ourselves create. When it doesn't match up to our expectations, we can either be pleasantly surprised or horribly turned off.
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Oh wait, that's the title for almost everything JJ Abrams does.
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..and not just people reacting to the devastation I'll be happy. The trailer certainly did it's job and I'm eager to see what this movie has to offer once it's released. I'm up for a good creature feature any day of the week!
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AKA VAMP@AICN CHAT
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I actually think I might have liked that idea.
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Abrams is directing and he wrote that abomination of a "script" for Superman V.... which is the land of Jon Peters... who loves him some GIANT SPIDERS!
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...nor "It's Cthulhu", but were merely noting that the thematic "flavour" if you will, of the trailer is Kaiju... and that of the slusho.jp website is Lovecraftian... ...thus some of us feel that although it is a given that the film WON'T FEATURE GODZILLA NOR CTHULHU NOR ANY ESTABLISHED CHARACTER... it still is likely to be informed by both the Godzilla films and the Cthulhu Mythos in a generic way... This simple concept seems very difficult for some to grasp... so let me try to give another example... Gorgo (1961) NOT GODZILLA!!! Different beast, different country, different raison detre, different GENDER! But still clearly INFORMED by Godzilla - Father of all Kaiju genre. Likewise, consider Alien (1979) different time, different planet, no ocean, no New England decay, no Necronomicon, no mad arabs, nothing normally associated with HPL ... and yet long considered by genre scholars from Stephen King to S.T. Joshi as "Lovecraftian" ...so unless you know otherwise Mori - as in you know for a fact: 1. THAT THIS FILM DOES NOT FEATURE A GIANT MONSTER RAMPAGING THROUGH THE CITY, 2. THAT THIS FILM DOES NOT HAVE AN OVERIDING THEMATIC FEELING OF UNSPEAKABLE COSMIC EVIL AND IMPENDING DOOM, both of which seem to be self-evident in the trailer and websites, then please give those of us exploring these themes a break... We do not belong in the same category as the guy who STILL insists that this ABSOLUTELY IS the Voltron movie in utter defiance of all logic, reason, or evidence to the contrary...
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...see what I did there?
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Let's not forget the clusterfuck situation with the Lost season finale. I'm surprised J.J. tells you guys anything.
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Remember?
Rimbaldi (ALIAS) = turn out to be nothing really important. And it WAS. For four seasons, nothing less!!!
Brazilians in a bunker at the last scene in season 2 (LOST)= never returned. Don't get me started: four toe statue, smoke monster, why Juliet fights like a pro, etc, etc...
My point: He's great BUT JJ loves to put a great mystery and than... he:
a) Forget.
b) Give up.
c) Never had the intention of solving it.
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I was really hoping to get more info about the film but all we got was a long winded whine about how harry was first. grow the fuck up
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Your 'theory and advice' sucks. Just because you haven't gotten your shiny red button pushed by the LOST people in the ways that you want them to isn't a reason to bitch about this. Alias only fell apart at the end because LOST started up.
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...that is cheap shot... but perhaps you should notice I use King as one extreme - and Joshi as another... ...also despite personal problems and misfortune, King does know *something* about horror genres ...read Danse Macabre for example.
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That they come from Planter X. Maybe it Ghidora, the tree headed monster. Please visit zetatalk.com for more info.
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Ugh...count me out, fellas. Blair Witch was irritating enough. This will be the same.
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Personally, I could hardly care about the story. It's a monster destroying New York, shot handheld. There's no twist on that core idea that can make me more interested in this premise. Yes, it was a very interesting trailer, but all this speculation is making me crazy.
Why? It's a monster movie being released January 18, 2008? Did anyone forget about that little fact? It's the damn temporary title, after all. As of now, I have no faith in a monster movie the studio has decided to release along with the rest of degenerate waste that call January home. -
you just keep posting news after pointless news that reveals nothing. it's going to get to a point where people will get fed up of all the hush hush bullshit and want to see something, and if they don't get that, then whatever interest and hype surrounding the movie will be gone. "Snakes on a Plane" had similar buzz it fizzled way before the movie came out. just be careful AICN
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So, I both emailed AND posted under that news column:
"You guys need to remove any and all mention of "exclusive" regarding news of Cloverfeild. AICN.com broke it weeks ago and fans have been on top of it since then. Slusho.jp and 1-18-08.com are only two of MANY sites we have been visiting for clues for quite some time."
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As you guys should well know, the Internet hype accounts for a very small portion of the audience(Snakes On A Plane anyone?).
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that's all it got out of those first three or four paragraphs. "Rumor control, bitches. Here's what we know about cloverfield, and you all have me to thank! Now, kneel, bitch and suck my cock."
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Or are you just going to continue to verbal masturbate yourself?
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So it's basically the Blair Witch Project but with a monster... no thanks.
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Anyone that thought this movie was going to be a new Godzilla movie or a fucking Voltron movie is a goddamn retard. Seriously.
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I'm a big fan of movies like this...do we really know what it's about? No. But a lot of shit is being fucked up and that's always a good thing. However, like it Blair Witch, I hate the shakey cam point of view. That's a real turn off for me. My $400 Sony handy cam has a great "Steady Shot" mode that virtually eliminates all the shakes. What the fuck is their excuse?
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Fuck it. I liked the other one better.
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Any theories?
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Slusho Happy! What the fuck?
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You heard it here first. Make sure I get the credit when you all report it later.
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probably so the most people possible would see it. and because the release date is so far off, i guess they don't want to over hype it.
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I like what some other person said in the other thread about the explosion being Lavos. Fuck yeah. Shooting his spikes into the air and blowing shit up. Epic movie.
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you're funny. i like that.
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Maybe the action scenes will make more sense that way.
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How long has the third one been there.
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HYPE MODE: Aw, man. That is going to be awesome! Can't wait for that to come out! BITCH MODE: Aw, man. That sucked! I can't believe they screwed that up. We are currently in HYPE MODE.
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I was first to post
this movie will suck bad -
since you mentioned The Dark Tower.
You heard it here first. -
slushozoom.com
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Godzilla v. Marshmallow in NYC
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and call a Whaaaambulance.
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that was actually mentioned in empire's star wars 30th anniversary coverage. it was all in a piece to do with Stephen King.
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There both Paramount films
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none of them is rotating any more
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"Well, let's not start sucking each other's dick's quite yet."
kinda ballsy to call others out when AICN swiped a lot of stuff and not credit it (to the original source)back in the day? -
There are two separate poles that you are comparing. At about 1:29 you can see both poles in the frame at once. The shorter one is in front of the square window, the taller light pole is to the right of it in front of the window with the arch over it and has a One Way sign on it that you see on the pole that gets bowled over by the head.
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chthuloid alien horror destroys new york? think about it.
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...the hype around that mediocre trailer has inspired.
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It seems possible, the monster was a parasite in the original....and the handheld camera would really work with this if it followed anywhere near the same story as the original
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That this is the Dark Tower, and the fact everyone from King to Abrams denying that it is, proves that it is...Well, seriously, I'm just wondering two things now: 1. What the hell is the monster supposed to be (I know this is the one thing everyone wants to know). 2. What kind of half-assed monster leaves survivors to clean up? Honestly, now we know this aint no Armeggedon type situation, b/c there are survivors.
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This is not my MYSPACE but someones.
http://www.myspace.com/he_arrives_011808
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Seriously though...Mori get over yourself. So WHAT if you reported this stuff? WHo cares? You were one of many cogs in the machine orchestrated by the Paramount marketing department to get the ball rolling on this 1-18-08 stuff. Do you think you deserve the Pulitzer for reporting this? You were just a tool for the studio to get the word out to the masses...you really didnt REPORT anything other than the fact that you seem to want the world to know that you knew about 1-18-08 before the rest of the world. Get over yourself. BTW-we watched your masters of horror episode "Pro Life" we thought it was hilarious (thats not a good thing)
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the only thing I find disconcerting about your theory is there is no 19 reference, no Ka reference, and if this is one of the things from todash space, the great old ones (not c'thonic, but those that did themselves in before the world moved on) have REALLY fucked up with a couple doors.
At least it wasnt the Dixie Pig going up....
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www.myspace.com/1000693995
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Anschutz,
Compare the time frames at 1:19 and 1:29 - no pole, pole!!!
I couldn't really care less, but in this day and age you'd think they would be a tad better at this sort of thing by now!!!
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Anyone want to start with the facts as we know them, and as Mori has laid them out. Lets get investigating...AGAIN!
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Get Shatner in the movie and who is playing young Captain Kirk??
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because they are predictable dumb asses. They had to resort to gimmicks because, let's face it, the trailer sucked and wouldn't have gotten anyone excited otherwise.
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Say you are at work, whatever it may be you do, and you bust your ass all day long. Then at the end of the day a guy who has done *nothing* jumps in front of you when the boss shows up and takes credit for all your work. Everyone would be fucking pissed and you know it. This cockhair claimed that HE was the exclusive source, that is what made it wrong and why it irked Mori so much. I can dig that.
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but is it possible that "1-18-08" is the title, and not the release date?
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From Mori: Its an original property. not C'thulu, not Voltron..nothing we've "seen", except perhaps thematically.
We know from the trailer:
-Rob is moving to japan.
-the line "I saw it, its alive, its HUGE!" is important.
-Folk wear slusho t-shirts.
-the monster moans/roars, also indicated to be of import.
-the statue of liberty or a reasonable mock there of has been tossed/hit into the street, hitting the 401 broadway site.
from the Pics:
-The are not the same girl.
-Dude feeding rob a drink wears a slusho shirt.
-the yellow girl is freaky
-its not the devil, its hair and light.
-the blast light is far to bright to see SHIT.
From Slusho.jp:
-The history section is important, and adds a kaiju/lovecraftian flavor.
-The duck is flying in a rainbow balloon.
-the horse thinks of a blue oven mit, the fish of swiss cheese.
-most of the site will be updated
-there are 4 full cups at the bottom, 13 empty ones.
-the japanese at the bottom is a variation on the slogan "you can't drink just 6"
-otherwise, not much more so far.
Hit me if I missed anything.
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I'm seeing people in here attacking J.J. for what they see as problems with the series 'Lost,' which he co-created. But let's be clear.
J.J. Abrams is way too busy with other projects (M:I-III, Star Trek, Cloverfield, What About Brian, Six Degrees, The Office) to have more than a passing interest in Lost at this point.
He directed and wrote the pilot, and yes, he and Damon Lindelof CREATED the show. They set up the concept of the monster, and the mystery of the Island, and who the people on the Island are, and set the series into motion.
But anything that has happened since then can ONLY be credited to (and against) the one-two punch of Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse. They are the ones running the show at this point. If you have a problem with the guys in the bunker at the end of season 2 (which, they will be coming back, just wait), you have to blame Darlton for it. If you thought the third season finale was brilliant, it's because of Darlton.
Again. J.J. Abrams CO-CREATED 'Lost,' but he is not involved in the day-to-day decision making on the show at this point, because he is working on other projects. -
MRX67...do we need to repost from the other thread?
you've already admitted that theres more than ample theory, rather than fact in your supposition, so you can't say you've only reported based on fact...and Voltron has been severly debunked (although, I'm still looking forward to THAT when it hits) -
and while you can blame all the bloggers, talkbackers and internet webmasters for all the build up over that vague-assed trailer, the blame for getting the ball rolling sits firmly on the shoulders of Abrams himself. He got exactly what he wanted; word of mouth and a fervor of excitement about doing exactly what he does on LOST, show absolutely nothing and then appear to be sooo clever. This thing will be a turd. Why else release it in the dead of hollywood's graveyard? And don't give me the whole "he's breaking with the norm because he's a genius bullshit either." Abrams has made a career out of giving cryptic prmises and then standing back when his final product doesn't deliver and saying; "Well, you guys let your imaginations run wild and if you'd have only thought about the clues I gave you, you would have seen it was a pile off shit....not my fault." This thing will be crap...and somehow, we talkbackers will be to blame for that as our imaginations have "run wild" again. And before this post runs to mammoth proportions I wills close by saying that if I were Abrams, I would have kept the Ethan Haas site linked to my movie, because the game Alpha Omega sounds ten times as good as anything he could come up with. Oh...and he is going to put the last nail in the Star Trek franchise too.
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viral advertising is ok to a point, like what they are doing with The Dark Knight, but this stuff reeks of self-absorbed pretentious bullshit to me.
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of evidence, or silence from the suspect does not indicate guilt and/or complicity. Come on man, I thought you were a detective.
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There's someone over at IMDB who said the same thing about the camera being picked up during the clean up. He also has a lot more to say about it than AICN.
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This is what I heard behind me from Mr. and Mrs Middle America when I saw the trailer in the theater. Not naming it got great buzz on line but I was left to wonder how many people (who have no idea who JJ Abrams is) are now walking around thinking a movie called Bad Robot is coming out in January...
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No, you grow the fuck up.
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No can do on showing you a site with any info on voltron, sorry...your welcome to your opinions, and your beliefs, (and I think we can both agree...voltron may kick a great deal of posterior)..but stating the suppositions based on the Slusho.jp website, and a lack of any other information doesn't make this a lock that it's voltron.
The Dark Tower was in development hell as early as 87 (or there abouts, read about it as listed in a licencing list in an ANCIENT Starlog magazine), and sat in tristars dev hell for years until now, but that didn't make things with similar thematics concurrently ABOUT the dark tower. -
drop the subject for now, and deal with your insistance...however, we need to get together in person (or telepresent) after the release of one OR the other and have a laugh about this.
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sound like a plan?
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crow....tasty.
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Please do this thread a favor and pot your Voltron theories in their entirety here, so people here don't have to go through 2000+ posts to find them. Also...what happens when this comes out and it isn't Voltron? Are we going to have to put you on suicide watch? And at what point will you admit it isn't? When you actually see the movie and it isn't Voltron, will you admit it isn't Voltron or will you think JJ is still just fucking with everyone and shot an entire fake movie just to throw everyone off the scent of his actual Voltron project?
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he's welcome to his opinions, just as are we all..again, my only issue is stateing them as established fact. I'll admit, it can skew the thread a bit, but lets try and face it with a bit more stoicism.
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You just played right into MRX67's hands with your math, sir. You see, the movie DOES cost 150 million...it's 30 million PER LION. We heard 30 million. There are five lions in Voltron. 30 x 5 is 150. Transformers cost 150 million. This trailer played in front of Transformers...and ONLY Transformers. Thus, this is Voltron.
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that there was no "Cloverfield" film. This has all been an elaborate market research study to test the effectiveness of viral marketing, and to see how quickly fanboys can twist things completely out of shape. Now The Suits know.
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that Voltron has by and large been debunked (if only by mori, and lack of evidence.)....and we know that half of the budgette is devoted towards speacial effects (via new report), but thats an ASS TON of modeling, texturing, animation, and integration for a REALLY low budgette.....the only reason I can state authority on this is that I do 3d modeling, and animation (to some extent), and nominally a production company doing CGI work on the scale and grandeur of voltron would have quite a bit more on the table in the way of funds for ALL that work....its never as easy as it seems.
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MRX67 CANNOT be serious at this point. He just CAN'T. If he is...man, I don't even know. But he can't be, so I refuse to treat that like a serious opinion/theory. He has to be keeping this going as a joke. I just can't wrap my brain around any other explanation. Sure, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but at what point do you just have to throw your hands up? I mean, I'm entitled to my opinion, but what if my opinion is that today is Thursday and this is 2002? Sometimes opinions are just wrong...and absurd.
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Man, there is NO WAY you're serious. I just can't believe it. Yesterday you had me going, but today I'm just not buying it. But keep going, because I admire the fact that you're sticking to your guns for the sake of comedy. But I'm onto you, brutha. No way are you serious.
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until proven otherwise, and I have thrown my hands up at this point, determined to laugh (sometimes to tears, and not good tears) on the theories and machinations of the faithfull...as long as that faith and belief don't lead to a bombbelt, folk believe in far stranger things.
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Jul 15, 2007 12:22:58 PM CDT
RUMER CONTROL! Let's talk about Bruce's parenting style
by bannedontherun
Or not.
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but its the figure we have to go off of, hell...if they're paying attention to these threads at all, I'm sure the budgette is going up like a bloody gas pump ticker. They need to be carefull if thats the case though...this shit could (and I thinkin some cases has) lead to backlash if taken to far.
Lets get hunting for the clues. Come on gang, we got a mystery to solve.
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That they do. But MRX67 doesn't really believe it's Voltron at this point. Honestly, he's obviously a movie fan or he wouldn't frequent this site...I think that's a pretty safe assumption. So he has to know that at this point, if this IS a Voltron movie and actually costs much more than 30 million, no studio exec would EVER deny that a movie that expensive was in the works. Studio execs don't play around with that kind of money and go..."You know, we COULD advertise the hell out of this and let people know our 150 million Voltron movie is coming out in 6 months, but maybe we'll get better returns if we just deny that we have anything to do with Voltron until the day it actually comes out? People like surprises, right?" No studio exec thinks like that where 150 million is concerned. That's a lotta dimp. When Voltron is actually coming, they will start to hype the shit out of it. Period. MRX67 is kidding.
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I'm taking it as flat earth theory at this point (no offence MRX).
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http://www.slusho.jp/
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I posted this about 1500 posts ago on the other thread, so here it is again...and anyone on this site who works in the movie biz can back me up on this: If this movie is going to be shot entirely in the "home video" style of the trailer, then the equipment is probably just high-end mini-dv or affordable dv...something like the Canon XL1S (or whatever the current equivalent is...I'm a little out of the loop); the kind of equipment that a good, professional videographer would use to film weddings, etc. You could buy ten of those cameras for $100,000. It also has no big-name stars, no big-name writers, and no big-name director. Even if they are shooting everything on location and have to pay taxes, buy permits, etc., you could probably shoot all the live action footage for this movie, pay the cast and crew, etc., and advertise this movie for under 10 million. Because, let's face it: You don't need a 50 million dolar ad campaign for a movie that only costs 30 million, since it won't have as much trouble turning a profit as a big-bidget epic because it was SO CHEAP TO MAKE. Word of mouth can make this film VERY profitable if it is good. So that leaves 20 million for CGI and physical effects. You don't think that's a lot? Go ask Roger Corman or Lloyd Kaufmann how far they could stretch 20 million. Shit, ask BadMrWonka...he's about to shoot a feature for $200,000.
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JJ is a tv producer, so he knows how to stretch a dollar...as ALL tv producers do...
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I'm still going with it being a remake of "The Host".
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Yaaaawn, yet another generic monster movie, only fimed in a been there done that style. Don't know about you but I've had an assfull of smashed buildings, screaming bimbos, and CGI fireballs.
The Lovecraft angle had me interested; a movie about the end of time and evil unleashed. I imagined a film about someone just trying to eek out thier lives to the last and filming the event, all the time knowing the inevitable fate that awaited. Damn it I wanted despair,NC-17 chaos, soul numbing horror, and an overriding darkness that would have given the most ardent satanist the creeps; has Hollywood finally dared brought the darkest of mans fears and dreams to film I wondered?
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Almost everything leaked points to a new monster, but almost all the clues point to a Godzilla like kaiju. The fire/explosion (most non-japanese giant monsters have no blast attack), the whale talk at slusho (Gojira= gorilla whale, the frozen at tremendous depths at slusho, and all the Japan references in general. Heck, the original US poster for Godzilla, KotM displays "It's Alive" prominently. http://tinyurl.com/292rqo
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One giant robot movie is plenty, bring on Gatchaman/G-Force. Keyop, Tiny, Princess and the rest would put a world of hurt on the big screen an you geeks all know it.
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So, how bad can Godzilla be?
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And that's the true surprise - it's actually a political thriller about Hillary Clinton.
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I can't stand J.J. Abrams. But I certainly respect that he wants to use trailers as a means of drawing people to the movie theater without ruining every goddamn good scene in the flick.
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hey do you work for the company that makes voltron toys or soemthing??? either that or you have a shit load of them at your house and your hopign so vehemently that this is a voltron movie so you can sit there on ebay or craigslist and get top $$ for first run voltron toys or something.....
in the immortal words of the big lebowski
"its over sir, the bums lost....." this IS NOT A VOLTRON MOVIE
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is a clue, then perhaps it's the tone and reverberation? The first groan noise during "Woman" sounds almost like a whale (not that it is), but could be coming from the water. It at least seems like a sound felt through the transfer of solid (underground) or liquid (ocean) matter. The earthquake could be the ground opening up to let this thing out. If it was the impact from something landing, it seems to me like there would already be a fiery mass somewhere. Then again we don't know if that explosion was the first bit of destruction anyway.
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It's one of the major things that separates the Disney parks from the Six Flags and such. Totally immersing you into their world. And so effective at it.
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THE HOST is still only in development with Gold Circle and Vertigo producing. Neither Paramount, Abrams or Bad Robot are involved with the (re)making of that film.
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Just look at the continuing level of stupidity of some of the posts here. Although the Voltron stuff is about as entertaining as you can get 'round these parts.
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Just because they are shooting in home video style doesn't mean they are using shit equipment. Case in point: Cloverfield recently was seen with the most expensive high-end HD camera available from a certain camera manufacturer.
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It stands to reason, then, that the creature probably can swim. Duh.
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...is Mori saying that all the footage is from ONE camera, found in the wreckage by a clean-up crew from later. Nothing else I've read to this point makes me fear more that this is just a novelty riff Abrams got the idea for while he was watching The Host, which let's face it, folks, is only HALF a good movie. Yeah, the first act or so was pretty great, but by the end it had been a spent force for more than thirty minutes. Now GreenGeezer or GJC can try to cheer me up with an idea that watching the tape makes the viewer understand that this was just the first time, and that "little whales" are the future, and maybe that kind of thing could bring it closer back to all right. Still, the most disturbing thing I've heard so far. (Although once again kind of Lovecraftian, though updated. About half the stories he wrote involved someone finding a dead guy's notes, diary or something).
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Roar.
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...Mori at Disneyland, but not at Magic Kingdom at WDW, there was ride called Story Book Land... ...you would ride on boats through beautifully landscaped miniatures of places from Disney's animated features... ... the ride began by your boat going into the huge slavering jaws of Monstro the whale... hmmmmm
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The real name of this movie is called the Parasite and has nothing to do with another film parasite which is currently filming. as you will see.
A giant monster movie currently referred to as Cloverfield, revolving around a group of people using a home video camera to record their experience of an attack from the monster, "The Parasite" (not to be confused with the film project The Parasyte) in New York City.
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If you're going to go for bad prehistoric monster please go all the way bad. Reptilicus! Man Gorgo was a Saturday afternoon staple back in the day, though. I must have seen it thirty times between the ages about five and twelve.
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I'm just talking about the origin of where it came from. We don't come from the water, but we can swim. Did it crawl out of a hole in Manhattan? It sure as hell didn't sneak up on Manhattan from somewhere else on land to wait and make it's first noise there. OR it swam in from the sea and made first land contact in Manhattan. Or it's totally magical and appeared out of the sky. I'm just trying to get speculation going. This talkback has become "It's not Voltron!"
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Are we just going to wait now?
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or maybe robotic Richard Simmons
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So you can rewind your memory back to when Toshiba announced it despite the jauggernaut called Blu-Ray rising from the waters to raise all hell on the mainland when it unleashed its fury and might, and now you can now follow Toshiba's format's story to it's enivitable tragic and stupid end.
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You always sum everything up with such genius subtlety and rationality. This project...that trailer... is the first to peak my interest as strongly as Grindhouse. Awesome stuff. Sorry to hear some asshole was screwing with you Mori. We all knew you revealed the story. Fucking tools not giving credit where credit is due... such bullshit.
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Didn't know that...where did that info come from out of curiosity? The kind of equipment I'm talking about has been used to shoot features before, btw, by people like Soderbergh. I wouldn't call it crap...it's not like the camcorder I bought at Best Buy or anything. Even if they are using more expensive equipment, you can shoot a beautiful-looking film for under 10 million (look at Bound and Memento...both cost less than 10 million). The point I was trying to make is that a lot of people are calling the 30 million dollar budget into question, and I think you could show A LOT of monster for that kind of money, given the "ant's-eye view" perspective that the movie seems to be using.
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If I receive a dollar everytime I read this at AICN talbacks... You guys have a real self steam problem.
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Also, I realize that both films I sited were set-bound, so look at tv shows that shoot on location in NYC or lA...Sex & The City or Entourage, for example. I'm sure each episode of those shows didn't have a budget of more than 1 million. You could shoot a feature on location for under 10 million and still have a lot of that 30 mil left for sfx.
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I am more than man to admit my mistakes if it is in fact a voltron movie, but its pretty much been made obvious to everyone but you MRX67 that it isnt.
your like a modern day version of the guy who thought the earth was flat even though 99.9% of the rest of the population knows it not to be true. but hey good luck to you and your grand thoughts and ideas. its a free world think what ya want, but dont say you werent warned when the backlash hits once it turns out not to be what you think and believe it to be.
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How many times, in the past few years, have scores and scores of people complained that a new trailer has given away the whole movie? This trailer is a classic teaser trailer. It has plenty of set-up, but it does a very smart thing and has no image at all of whatever is attacking Manhattan.
At the very least, I'm looking forward to finding out something more about this film; and as it stands right now (based on the teaser) I'm looking forward to seeing it.
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I'm not sure who you're referring to, but do you really think that it's impossible for anyone on this board to have any idea about what it takes to make a movie...cost or otherwise? I used to work for an indie producer--Edward R. Pressman, to be specific--and I'm sure that I'm not alone.
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So you're calling me a liar, then? What point would there be in that, seeing as how I don't claim to work for him anymore? And I worked in the office--in the development department--for two guys: Zach Schiff-Abrams and Alessandro Camon...I never claimed to be a filmmaker myself. Go ahead and look them up. Finally, I have no problem with people refuting bullshit statements, and on this site there have been PLENTY, but on your blog you say: "Talk of this movie was spreading before AICN said a single word about it." I am willing to give that statement the benefit of the doubt, but can you prove it? You should post a link or site a reference when you are going after someone else's bad journalism/media coverage, if for no other reason than to show that you are more professional than them.
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for MRX67.Voltron Suicide Hotline: "hello?"fan: "um hello, I think the 1-18-08 movie is Voltron.VSH: "you are aware that Voltron is a separate movie by a separate studio?"fan: "well, yes, but I think that's all a ploy!"VSH: "and you're aware that Voltron is a kid's toy? and that any movie made about Voltron would have massive tie-ins with toys/fast food/etc.? something not conducive to a scary movie shot all with hand-held camcorders? not to mention that fact that people who obviously know more than you do at this point, such as Moriarty from AICN, have stated clearly and emphatically that there is NO CONNECTION between this film and Voltron?"fan: "well, I choose to ignore all of that."VSH: "um...OK, well do you actually have ANY reason whatsoever to believe this is Voltron?"fan: "the IMDB page for Voltron hasn't been updated recently."VSH: (long pause) "what?"fan: "they haven't updated the page in a while! not to mention, here are some other cold hard FACTS!! on the Slush.jp site, one of the animals is dreaming of cheese. cheese comes from France! and France is one of the places that Voltron is going to stop at, according to the script leaked at mexicanscriptreviews.com!!"VSH: "wait, cheese? what are you talking ab-fan: "and, and, there's a horse! which is like a donkey! and donkeys are from mexico, and Voltron stops in mexico in the script!"VSH: "you're kidding, right? you have to be joking..."fan: "no, I'm totally serious."VSH: "OK, I think we have all the information we need. and I am authorized at this time to tell you that you can go ahead and kill yourself. thank you for calling the Voltron Suicide Hotline."
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... videos on YouTube. ... the videos have an 800 number to call in your questions (this is part of joke... it says previously recorded don't call) ... the number is 1-800-SOL-EATR... ... if anyone actually calls that... ... it's PORN!!!! ... a sex-line... ha ha ha ha ha ha tentacle rape! ha ha ha ha
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ya know that shit had me rolling on the floor over here. and you should turn it into a movie. the best part about it is that once he does off himself there wouldnt be any chance of a sequel.... hahahahah
unless of course we get the undead version of mrx67 which could be jsut as bad if not worse than the live version.
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Your on my shit list pal
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in much of anything anymore. You have to do something that stands out in order to get attention and a trailer that raises more questions than it answers is precisely what was needed.
Mori's comment about Disneyland and the buildup of anticipation got me thinking.
Today, so much of marketing is about getting out in front of everyone else. In the process, we've taken away alot of the mystery behind films and other industries with "beat them over the head" marketing.
Look at new cars. You can see the new models in Car and Driver 2 years before they're on sale. It used to be the dealers would have a "reveal" of new models. They'd cover the car with a sheet and people would come into the business just to see the unveiling. They'd create anticipation through mystery.
Today we get so much upfront that by the time we get the real deal, we're jaded or spoiled on it.
JJ is doing the right thing. Marketing folks from many industries should do this more often. Doesn't happen enough today.
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On a side-note...do you know that Mr. T has a fucking reality show? It's some kind of self-help show. I shit you not, the slogan in the print ads is "Because in every city, there's fools to pity". I'm not making this shit up.
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You have officially lost your mind.
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stay where you are, we're sending the men in the white coats with the butterfly nets right over.
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You know he's totally fucking around, right? I mean, he HAS to be...
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Who cares? I'm intrigued by the hook, but I don't think it's worth all this hubbub. And I am wary of a monster movie shot from a handheld perspective. How much versatility is there going to be in that? Explosion. Camera jerks toward it. Building falls. Camera jerks toward it. Monster roars. Camera jerks toward it. I like Blair Witch a lot, but I think it works because it's quiet. It has a creeping, just offscreen dread. Maybe I'm underestimating the verisimilitude of this technique in something with more chaos. We'll see.
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I might be in the minority, but I don't know, I'm just not feeling this whatsoever. Hope it turns out well though.
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How about this for a fact: I have the telephone number for The Mark Gordon Company. I'm not about to post it here, but I will e-mail it to you. Do you have a myspace account? If so, shoot me a message at www.myspace.com/generaljackcosmo - NO SPACES - and I will send you the number. Call them and tell them you are looking to license Voltron for something...make something up, detective...and see if they still have the rights to the movie. If you don't have a myspace, you can shoot me an e-mail at my shitty, under-construction web-site @ www.cosmo-verse.com
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Color me unimpressed Sounds like something that Kid from On the Lot would do for free. Sorry but I'm not Interested in a war of worlds movie told Blair Witch style. Peace.
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...when the folks at MGC say they still have the rights, are you going to believe them, or will you just think they are part of the conspiracy, too?
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"Look at the beginning of the trailer....the attack came from the sky right?" I'm not so sure that it DID, but even if it did...the ONLY attack that could possbly come from the sky is Voltron-related? Even though none of the people associated with this film are associated with any of the people involved in the Voltron movie in any way? Dude, if you ARE serious, then you are falling victim to the very common phenomenon of seeing connections where you want to see connections...and listen, I WANT to see a good Voltron movie...but this is not that movie.
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Just so that guy will STFU!
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Do you honestly think that if it IS Voltron he will EVER stop taling about it?
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I hope you enjoyed my short play.you are claiming that 2 separate movies are, somehow, the same movie.don't you think that a claim as, um...unusual as that means that YOU Should be providing the facts? if I claim that my pet bunny can talk, I can't say, "well, prove it can't! show me some facts!" that is what you're doing, brother. unusual claims, that go against the common accepted norms, requires specific proof.you are speculating. but the problem is, you treat your suppositions and speculations as fact, and when they are discounted, you ignore it. then when someone gives you ample evidence against your theories, you ignore that as well. then you take a break for a few hours, and pop right back in, going, "where are the facts?"I still think it's 50/50 whether you're joking or not, but hell, I'm on a break from work, so I'll give this a shot:here's how it will work. I'm going to write down a few things that I believe are evidence that the Voltron movie and the 1-18-08 movie are not the same movie. I will list them point by point, and I will number them. then you can use the corresponding numbers, and respond to each point, in turn. do you understand? no more vagueries, no more illogical ramblings. point. by. point. ok?1. both films were developed separately. meaning the cast, producers, writers and directors, are not the same. do you believe that the magazine articles, IMDB.com pages, insider information, as well as information from this site, is all part of a vast conspiracy to hide the fact that they are, in fact, one movie? (answer clearly. start out with a yes or a no, and go from there)2. this film, (even if you disbelieve the budget) is told from the viewpoint of a few survivors of a large attack. their camera is found, and someone watches the footage. does this sound like the Voltron script that you have read/heard about? (since you have used that same script in previous posts to "prove" your overall point, I would assume that if the script did not match up with what this film is going to be, it would be an inconsitency with your theory, right?)3. Voltron is going to be a movie with natural toy tie-ins, just like Transformers. that was the point of the original series, and a huge part of the rationale for remaking it. do you honestly believe a studio would look at the success of a film like Transformers, both in scope/box office/toys/tie-ins/advertising connections, etc., and take what is an obscenely similar franchise potential, and make it with camcorders, during a dark night, for 1/5 of the budget? (again, clear, concise answers here)4. your "facts" proving this movie is Voltron included mentions of the slusho.jp site, where you insisted that cheese = France, and horses = Mexico, and that somehow this equals Voltron. for these signals to be meaningful, the rest of the symbols would have to be significant as well. so please tell us how they all relate to the Voltron script.5. please tell us what would be the percieved advantage to creating a situation where (as you admit) 99% of the people who watched the trailer, and are involved in searching for more clues, do not think this is Voltron. if it actually is, do you consider this campagin a failure? considering everyone over the age of 13 has been convinced by the overwhelming tide of logic and rational thought, that it is NOT Voltron?again, go point by point, and be clear. you keep complaining about a lack of evidence that it is NOT Voltron. even though the burden of proof SHOULD be on you, I've just given you some evidence, and asked you some questions abotu your theory.I can honestly say, for many reasons, I look forward to your response...
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Props to Mori for the scoop.
They ripped off AICN, and gave them no credit. It's bush league, and he has every right to be mad.
At the same time, Mori seems to be saying that we should cool it, when AICN has fanned the flames of all the fanboys hoping it's this story or that one. If it weren't for movie geeks obsessing over trailers and such, sites like this would have the traffic of the typical myspace page.
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this thread has gone way off topic. is anyone out there still actively pursuing any clues other than voltron based rigamorole.
mrx67 wont be satisifed until someone proves him wrong ( and even than it will still be part of a conspiracy to him) so lets get to searching.
I dont even really care anymore what this movie is about but I will make it my mission to prove it is not VOLTRON...
the only other question I have for you mrx67 is this
why do you want a voltron movie so bad? I thought there was a general consensus out there that people were tired of the remakes, rehashing of childhood show/cartoons, and sequels/prequesls, etc....
wouldnt this just be another example of hollywood raping our childhoods?
Im all for anything original now a days in hollywood, but again if i turn out to be wrong I will in no way go kill myself. its only hollywood and I can choose not to spend my money on this film in a vain attempt to get them to understand that Im tired of them and want more original ideas out there.
but as long as people like you keeping thinking the way you do, the days of remakes, rehashings, etc... will continue
and Im gonna compliment you mrx btw . your a damn tenacious lil bugger. that I will def give you
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Man, those are all good points. And they have all been raised by others and then swatted aside by MRX67. I, also, look forward to his reply.
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From SNL.
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I don't need you to explain anything about rights...I know how it works. But go ahead and do what I said anyway. And here's another fact: The "rumor" that MGC is affiliated with Paramount is WRONG. MGC has first-look deals with Columbia Pictures and Touchstone Television. That's a fact, so sayeth the Hollywood Creative Directory. Look it up www.hcdonline.com
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I'm not upset at all. You seem to be the one getting upset. I know that you site other scoops, but I didn't see any before June 21st, which is when AICN first started talking about this. Sorry if I missed that...can you please post the link here?
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...does it speak French like your cat Henri???
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you guys are keeping this voltron bullshit going by respond to the dumb ass dude mrx67. Go back to the original thread and lets figure this shit out.
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it just sounded as ludicrous as possible, and since I was trying to parallel MRX67, I thought it appropriate.
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VOLTRON did not take place on Earth. Nor would any filmmaker in their right fucking mind make a VOLTRON movie as told through the lenses of hand-held video cameras.THANK YOU.Finis.
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01/18/75 Lee majors Invaded our TV's now it's new Yorks turn.
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Only the greatest monster movie fight never filmed. Yet.
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Im through with this nonsense. like i said lets be the first to figure this out on here than see who uses out info as an exclusive report and takes our credit...
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01/18/71 Jonathon Davis's birth day Hello NYC is going to get Rocked to death LiiL
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... you're an idiot. There's not a single post on the IMDb boards from before July 2nd. We posted our first detailed story on June 21st. Now, I'm not sure if your mommy has explained the calendar to you yet, but "June" comes before "July," okay?
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CLOVERFIELD is NOT the new RAINBOW BRITE live-action film!!!
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I asked the guy to post a link to a scoop that predates the one here, but got called a blind moron in return. Personally, I can't believe this guy isn't writing for Time.
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Can someone at AICN please fill us in on why the Blade Runner: The Final Cut's supposedly new opening titles article was pulled?
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so that was 1., I'm assuming the rest are to follow.but alredy you've fallen into one of the most common logical fallacies. this is expecially common with conspiracy theorists.just because the small problems you list with the IMDB page for Voltron, combined with a very generous interpretation of the possibilities of the 1-18-08 page, mean that is is REMOTELY POSSIBLE they are the same movie, it does not mean it is PROOF they are the same movie. this is logical fallacy. some people call it the "fallacy of composition", but that's slightly different, in actuality.
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No official explanation was given on the site. However, if you were to check out the YouTube profile of the guy who posted the title sequence, you would find that he had two different versions and noted what the changes were between them.In other words, it was not legit.
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Good call!!! Only they're two different movies!!! So what you said means absolutely nothing!!! Now, why don't you just explain to all of us idiots about the clue in the third picture.
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Acid saliva would be good. Also, if any piece you cut off of him grew into another giant monster.
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What the hell are we supposed to call this blogspot shilling douchebag? Is it ANTSYPANTSY. Or is it Arthur?I'm voting for SHITSPANTSY myself...
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No, dude. We're just a little short on crazy around here and I want you to inject a little more.
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I wish I can say that I'm shocked that a few people really believe that this movie is going to be Voltron. I have to agree with the majority who thinks it would be the worst marketing idea ever to have a movie like Voltron and not let the masses know what's coming. It might not have the name recognition of Transformers but it's pretty damn close.
All I'm really expecting from this movie is a well-made monster-attacks-city film with a more human POV with the handheld cameras.
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Believe me, you don't need to resort to name-calling to make this guy look like an idiot. He is attacking bad reprting with more bad reporting. That says it all. He is "fact-checking" facts with things that...wait for it...aren;t facts themselves.
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you haven't forgotten about the rest of my points, have you?you wanted facts and explanations, I gave them to you.or do you want to ignore them, because your fantasy is a little shaky when it comes to solid data and facts?if you're joking (and I still think it's 50/50, since I can't imagine you are serious, and yet smart enough to have figured out how to type), then I'm gonna make you pay, brother!and if you're serious, well, god help you. you're not going to win this debate. your only chance to to fling your arms up and run away, as you just implied you were going to.MRX: my bunny can talk!BadMrWonka: "OK, let's hear it."MRX: "prove to me it can't talk!"BadMrWonka: "OK, well, no bunny in history has ever spoken. their vocal chords are not developed in a way to create speech. I've never heard this bunny talk, nor has anyone else. how ar those for facts?" MRX: "um...why can't anyone give me evidence that this bunny can't talk? I give up, I'm leaving. and I'm taking my bunny!"
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Hey, I didn't say it would be original...just cool.
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If you don't have to go "outside" the home video footage, you'll almost never see anything expensive, just a bunch of cowering and whimpering hipsters.
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Roger that. But when he took the "Oooh I'm getting the AICN Morons Upset" route, I just decided a good ol' AICN nickname was in order.
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So help us out and explain the clue in the third picture.
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First time I felt empathy for anything. I think I cried. I still hate the British to this day for capturing Gorgo.
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Jersey, which would explain the terror caused by the water, as it probably hates bathing. HA!
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No offense taken at all. I just couldn't think of anything else, and, personally, I think it would fucking suck to have to deal with something that you couldn't wound for fear of having multiple somethings to deal with...that you can't wound.
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you sound like a broken record. stop making grandiose statements and take my points one by one...if you really think your position is logical and defensible, they you would have no problem going logically through the points I made.if, on the other hand, your position is shaky, and indefensible on the basis of logic and reason, then you would keep making the same vague complaints over and over again.which of these describes what you're doing?(also, google, the logical fallacy "appeal to probability"...it perfectly describes your mistaken rationale for everything you're claiming to be factually true)
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I'm telling you...we've been through ALL THIS BEFORE...hasn't even slowed him down...
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Fo shizzle.
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I'm not allowing someone to piss on my church, the church of logic and reason.if he wants to ignore reality and reason, he's entitled. but he's NOT entitled to claim that the facts are on his side. they are not.he's either going to leave with his tail between his legs (as he's sort of tried to do), or he's going to admit that he's basing his belief on faith and hope, not logic and reason.no one pisses on my church!
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I'm not trying to be mean, I honestly want to know. I was under the impression that the rumor got started purely because somebody misheard a line in the trailer, and thought the guy said "I saw it, it's a lion, it's huge!" but obviously there must be more to it than that. I just can't see it. I can't see any possible connection between Voltron and this project.
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There are a number of Paramount movies in development that don't have links or mention on the Paramount site. Also, check out this site - http://www.apple.com/trailers/#section=studios - it lists 01.18.08 as a Paramount movie...oh, wait, maybe Apple is in on it, too...
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the fucking Paramount logo is IN THE TRAILER
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again, the SAME LOGICAL FALLACY!!!! just because something COULD be true, does not mean it IS true. this is the "appeal to probability" fallacy, and is almost universally used in conspiracy theories.you still have not given ONE fact. you call what you're saying facts, but they are not. if I sneeze, and then the house next door blows up. I did NOT cause it, simply because one happened right after the other!!!!! post hoc, ergo propter hoc!!!!
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Always a few people who take this shit personally and get into massive arguments over a movie. Maybe that's what this movie is about. An over-zealous fan goes nuts and starts destroying New York because Optimus had flames. I'd see that. Definitely sounds like a parasite to me.
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...you, sir, are a Fruit Loop! 101% Pure, Unfiltered, Whack-Jobiness!
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noone is searching for clue only now everyone is obsessed on Mr.X67 Nothing is moving forward because everyone is stuck on how fucking dumb all of Mrx67's statements are. Hes is taking everyone on a ride and im sure he is getting a kick out of this. Please draw your attention to the problem at hand and lets figure this shit out.
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Someone mistook "it's alive" for "it's a lion" and the jokesters started pretending to take it seriously. Then the humorless pedants started lecturing everyone on how stupid the Voltron idea was, which caused the jokesters to roll on the floor laughing, and to repost the Voltron idea over and over again, just to watch the pedants foam at the mouth. Yes, Mori, I'm talking about you.
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I never understood how anyone could seriously think this was voltron?? very very strange and to the guy who said all the secrecy reeks ofpretentcious overblown bullshit...there was a time when a film came out we didn't know much about it. all we had was a trailer, a poster and some lobby cards. we didn't know every detailsof everything before it was released and we certainly couldn't hunt out fucking scripy reviews before the thing had been shot. I am glad to see a film try to hold back from us and surprise us. I am glad to see a studio not ram something down our throats and if they play it the same way all the way through and it still gets overhyped the only people to blame will be us.
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MRX67 gets faced with undeniable logic, and so he runs off for a while. then he comes back a bouple hours later, as though nothing has happened, and says something to the effect of, "no one has given me any evidence it's not Voltron!!"it's kind of cut, he's done it exactly like that for a few days now. I'm just hoping something new will come alone to shut him up. but given that he seems incapable of graping even the most simple points of logic, I can't see what that would be.I could care less about Voltron, I just hate people making logical fallacies!
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Just thought I'd Interject some research into the fun yet repetitive jackassery - 1. "It's Alive, It's Huge" - Largest living animal - A Great Blue whale(see Slusho site for various whale refrences.)
2. "Parasite" name attached to project - Whales eat krill and copepoda, the latter being a parasite.
Lets speculate that the "secret ingredient" in Slusho! is in fact a parasitic copepoda with unknown properties capable of manipulating it's host life form.
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done in this style. Slusho history talks about their secret ingredient from the bottom of the ocean which fits with R'lyeh's location from The Call of Cthulhu. In that story it says the Old Ones communicate with humans through dreams, and in the Slusho history, Ganu the scientist who creates Slusho is communicated to via a dream telling him how to use the secret incredient found at the bottom of the ocean.
So we have Ganu taking advice from the "whale" of how go from being a small fish (a nobody) to an enormous whale (great). This is always how trouble starts in mythology and Biblical stories, btw.
In The Call of Cthulhu, the Old Ones need outside assistance to free them. Once free, they would then revive Cthulhu.
"It's alive, it's huge," could accurately describe Cthulhu. Or it could describe something else as Cthulhu and the Old Ones are a vanguard for an extraterrestrial invasion.
Perhaps they're attempting to throw people off by bringing in the Japanese element to make people think campy and monster movie, but it's obvious Slusho is slightly sinister despite its appearance and this could just be backstory for the movie.
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This is one of the more entertaining Talkbacks for sure. MRX is fucking with you guys so bad. He has to goofing, because it is physically impossible for anyone to be that dumb. Anyone that stupid would be incapable of typing a coeherent sentence, let alone operate a computer.
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Boy and girl represent male and female. Animals possibly represent evolutionary clades (since Slusho is mutagenic potentially): birds, amphbians, mammals, fish.
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I remember reading the bit on this project back in June, man. I look at AICN every day and I'm a fan of the Dark Tower series, so I remember looking at the scoop when it first appeared. Of course, I lied about having worked for Ed Pressman, so I'm probably lying about this, too.
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fits with the Godzilla theme of technology gone awry, but if this is some monstrous genetic creation gone awry and that's it? BORING. Unless they set it in the 60s and make it deliberately campy. Which they haven't. It needs more Cthulhu! Bring on the metaphysical scares.
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...far more convincing than MRX37's, however... ...the bunny gives this away... ...it's... DOMO-KUN!!!
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... if you're just going to use the talkbacks to lie and slander me, then you can fuck off, Antsy. Enjoy your blog.
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But they definitly need to fix the size of the Statue of Liberty's head. WAAAAAAAY too small.
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We have quite the social experiment going here courtesy of J.J. Abrams.
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... I never said anything about the people saying, "This is in the style of..." since it's obvious you guys are on the right track. There are definite kaiju influences, and anyone dealing with giant monsters from the sea is traveling ground covered by Lovecraft previously. My point was only for people who are so literal minded that they could only imagine this as an actual GODZILLA remake or an official Lovecraft adaptation.
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If you're going to rope in people watching a movie about lion robots that form a giant robot fighting an alien invasion they have: 1) a massive scale problem, and 2) questionable production values. Now, the script synopsis of Voltron on Latino Review admittedly sounds sort of retardedly low-tech apocalyptic nonsense with some room for big special effects - you know, uncreative like most Hollywood adaptations - but it also sounds like something Mike Bay would shoot, so that rules this trailer out.
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But why the Hell do you guys have an ad for Captivity on this site?
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Sounds strange but take a long hard look at this guy and tell me he doesn't look like a centuries old Gunslinger, weathered, beaten, and worn.
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... I think Merrick posted the YouTube link, and then realized it was a student project on cutting titles. That's why he took it back down. I think he's just super-excited about the new BLADE RUNNER, so jumped the gun a bit.
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You're either an idiot or intentionally daft. Were people talking about CLOVERFIELD before AICN wrote a story about it? Sure. But I don't think discussion on an IMDB messageboard amounts to much of a news source/heads-up-type scoop. What makes you think they were the intitial source for this stupid movie? Hell, they probably got half their conjecture from the LOST forums (which actually have a direct connection to Mr. Abrams) anyway. So, what's your point Arthur?
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shot via camcorder, honor the spirit of the documentary style of The Call of Cthulhu.
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... that's pretty much the proof that we on the editorial side have nothing to do with the ads. I wish to god we didn't have those ads here, but we don't have the ability to pick and choose what gets ad space. That's handled by someone entirely different than us.
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AICN was the first to break the Cloverfield story. I hadn't been interested because I knew nothing about it, but this was the only site I'd seen the name "Cloverfield" on for the last month or so.
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I think I got my answer.
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I finally completely disbelieve the conspiracy theories about payola and aicn.
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... they weren't. That's my point. There was no discussion of CLOVERFIELD anywhere until we broke the story. No one had any details about it. The closest anyone came was when Latino Review was betting Harry that JJ Abrams wasn't making STAR TREK because he was doing something called CLOVERFIELD instead. But they had no idea what it was, and many people at the time guessed it was just another cover title for STAR TREK.
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Cloverfield story would probably be more interesting than the final product. However, it will, no doubt, be better than Transformers. :D
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Shouldn't you be at a wedding or something?
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Let's talk about the information that Harry withheld when he was trying to sell your script.
Or let's talk about the expose that FilmThreat did on you guys.
I'm all up for taking about lies.
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thanks for clearing this stuff up. I wish the conspiracy theorists would at least contain their zeal to the search for more info regarding the film, rather than the search for more revisionist history regarding AICN's contribution. (as if JJ personally writing Harry a note wasn't proof enough of AICN's importance in breaking this stuff).but as you can see in the other talkback, 3000 posts later, and we're nowhere. all we have are morons talking about Voltron, ridiculous anagrams, and asinine numerology wackos.is there anything you can suggest, however vague you might have to be, to get us on the right track towards more websites/information about this project? Abrams seemed to imply gidily that there was more out there, and that he hoped we would find it, but I think we need more than our little nerdlinger team. we need a hint or two.or do we simply have to wait for more photos, and more Slusho?
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My conceit that there might have been previous discussion stems from what I've heard being theorized on the LOST Forums.I'm not sure what this guy thinks he's trying to prove but it sounds like he's got a little hard-on for AICN.Cheers.
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Let's talk about where you saw a story before June 21st on "Cloverfeld". You still haven't proven the truth of your initial allegations.
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We're like the Scooby gang and the aicn staff is like the Harlem Globetrotters. We need help just this once.
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You honestly believe that AICN talked about "Cloverfield" before anyone else anywhere on the net?
Deluded much?
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Seriously. What's your point?
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I reiterate the facts. 1. The State of California produces most of the cheese in the US. 2. The Donkey is the symbol of the Democratic party. 3. The color blue is symbolic of California being a blue state. 4. The oven mitt is to handle the burning rage of the beast. With these facts in had the movie is thus. A geneticly engineered 100 foot tall U.S. Senator named Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) is hunting down the "parasite" George Bush. He is visiting the United Nations when Feinstein is loosed by the DNC. Hilarity ensues. No Voltron. No Cthulhu. No Godzilla. Just a giant pissed off Democrat.
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Don't you love how in denial people are?
And pointing out my old name as if I tried to hide it?
Moriarty can make you people believe anything apparently.
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Atleast that's what I was thinking when I saw that in a topic a few weeks back.
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I will shut the fuck up about this forever if you can show me one single link to a scoop about this project anywhere before June 21st. Just show me a link. If you can't, then drop it because you have no evidence to back up your allegations. I'm not talking about any script review or whatever...I'm saying show me proof someone else was talking about this movie. If you can't do that, then stop talking down to me like I'M some kind of idiot, because you're completely disingenuous and what you're doing is called LIBEL. When I accuse someone of something, I am prepared to back it up. Obviously you are not.
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Google is an amazing search tool.
It will take you seconds to find mountains of proof of discussion of this film before AICN.
Literally seconds.
And don't barf out the word "libel" at me and then defend people like Moriarty and Harry.
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Once again, I am sold.
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in any form (video games, forums, talkbacks, blogs) is when someone gets banned, then comes back in a different form to whine more.it makes me chuckle, but then sigh at how shitty it must feel like to be that guy...it's like the kid who grabs the ball and throws it over the fence because he can't play the game...hence the irony of this troll's blog name...maybe him and MRX67 are long lost brothers. both of them seem to ignore the obvious fallacy in making an unusual claim, and then asking others to disprove it.GIVE...US...A...LINK...and not to somewhere mentioning the name, people had a name. but to some legitimate info about the project.do YOU have a talking pet bunny as well?
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I believe that the first thing I heard about this was it was supposed to be Dark Tower (I know now it is not), and if I remember correctly it was from a post I did on a previous thread that Mori first said anything about.... Now, why Mori just say that, that's all I want, attention, because I'm an attention whore...(this entire post was done out of boredom, I do not in any way advocate or condone attention whoredom).
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Again, don't talk down to me like I'm a fucking idiot when it would be extremely simple to show me what an idiot I am assuming you're not completely full of shit. Take a few seconds and post a link or two here to make me eat my words...which I will gladly do and admit that I am wrong and you are right...and on top of that, you will have PROVEN what a bunch of fucking liars Harry, Mori, et al. are.
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Millions of people online and AICN was the first to talk about "Cloverfield".
And clouds are made of cotton candy and the Easter Bunny is real.
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Google is an amazing search tool.
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So where's the link? Put your money where your mouth is.
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more vague (and unfunny) references...you want to give us a link? as we've asked half a dozen times?you make a claim, you have to prove it. YOU have the burden of proof.did you go to high school?GIVE US A LINK...how many times do we have to ask you?
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give me credit. God knows I deserve it. suck it dry, kids!
see how easy it is when noone knows you to pretend you are amazing, yet you offer no proof?
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Dude, he's probably in high school now...
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The man's too good for proof. Or this site. Or probably life.
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...I take the kids shopping and come back to check on this and...wow. And yeah, Mori, I thought you were specific enough yesterday when you said it wasn't Cthulhu that you meant it wasn't a direct adaptation of Lovecraft, which didn't seem very likely to me in the first place. But then some other people started screaming shut up whenever Lovecraft was mentioned, including some guy who insisted that the movie wasn't a remake of Lovecraft. Too bad, really. That would have been quite the experience. And Abrams has already danced around that territory, with Lost (ancient four toed statue, the Others who are nearly but not quite us and somehow seemingly in service to something other than humanity, the amorphous monster that can savagely kill or drive you mad, now the fact that once touched by the island you seem somehow "marked"). So saying Lovecraftian in this case is pretty much just a way to differentiate dumb monster from directed monster and random rampage from something with deeper and or broader implications.
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"Millions of people online and AICN was the first to talk about "Cloverfield"."Well, if Google is so handy, please provide us with the link to the first person to discuss CLOVERFIELD. Should be easy enough, right?wewerethecoolkidsYou WERE? I wonder what happened...
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ANTSY: "He didn't bring sexy back. That's a fucking lie. There are literally millions of people who brought sexy back before him. Just use google."
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(we seem to have to say everything 4 times) we're not talking about mentions, we're talking about INFORMATION...if you read the initial article Mori linked to, from June 21st, they obviously had a bead on everything that was going on, form the production, to the trailer.and you had the stones to claim Mori ALTERED the date of the article?are you going to apologize, since that's blatantly untrue?or are you going to ignore what I just wrote...again? I bet on the latter...
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Its really pathetic and nobody cares.
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he proved his point, and kicked the troll out. he hasn't said a word since.who's crying?you shame the name of Gambit, sir...
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that Abrams would confirm whether or not he have an ARG or not... so I can quit wasting my time, if its not.
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...does this MRX cat remind you amazingly of old what's his name of the BSG talkbacks? Seems the same...hmmm...style. You had to put up with him a lot more than I did so I wondered if you had a feel.
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Now the http://www.parasitemovie.com link goes to 01-18-08.com ??
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Caught your post in that other TB. Long time, no read indeed!I assume you are referring to JJ4P (aka Vog/by by/OW4P, etc.)? Nah, I don't think it's him. He's not trying to "PWN" everyone in the room. As a matter of fact, his most recent incarnation, Tegujai Batir, appears to have been given the boot, too. Serves him right.
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is a fake site. Nothing strange about that.
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Yeah, I kind of figured if he was you'd have already called him on it. It was the cut and paste reposting of his whole "argument" that made me suspicious. And his insistence that uninformed opinion was the same thing as fact. Yeah, I know. It's the internet, those traits aren't that uncommon.
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I cant wait.
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Seriously, is someone going to say I loved this movie the first time when it was called: (choose your film)? ;)
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RE: "It's the internet, those traits aren't that uncommon."Ha! Very true. However, in this particular case, I think MRX67 is just too nice!
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...and at least this guy had some genuinely amusing material with the donkey/cheese/overmitt thing. By the way, I noticed the r instead of n in overmitt, but overmitt kind of creeps me out so I'm going to let it stand.
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So you broke the story here, so what? The people on this site (and Harry is the worst) sometimes start believing their own hype. They forget that they are the loser-geeks who used to play D&D during lunch in school and that they write for a fan based movie website and instead start believing they are legitimate reporters. Quit yer' bitchin', you ain't never gonna win a pulitzer, and you'll never be one of the "in" crowd in Hollywood. Don't you people realize that the people who ARE a part of that world are laughing AT you, not WITH you?
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before, but that just made it sound more interesting at least.
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you're here too, asshat.if someone claimed on their little blog, something about you that was false, and you had a pulpit to denounce it, you would, too.unfortunately, your pulpit is about as big as the square around your last talkback comment.so hush up.
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Project much?
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"Oven Mitt (and its verb tense, oven mitting) can refer to the act of a female tea-bag maneuver"
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you never have much to say, other than negativity, and redundant comments.you and Jimmy_009 aren't the same person, are you?
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the official hatorade of AICN. bet you cant hate on 6 different people after drinking slusho..
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I'm familiar with ovenmitts but not "overmitts". Now that sounds Lovecraftian!
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From Mori first post about the script. How would a oil tanker get to the Statue? GIANT MONSTER ATTACK? Anyway now we know why the head landed in the street maybe lol.
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Nobody on this talkback has any idea what this film is officially called or what its about!! Instead you have resorted to concentrating on 'What its not about' You have all taken the bait from the likes of 'MRX67' which then spawns posts from numptys live 'zombiesolutions'!! Mori has said his piece and is joining in the talkbacks - be thankful HE may or may not have given some extra clues - SO BASICALLY LETS GET BACK TO THE JOB AND SOLVE THIS FUCKING MYSTERY and totally blank MRX67 cos hes fuckin with us all!!!
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gonan be travelling to seattle and new york for other projects in between now and then.for now, I've taken a week off to relax, watch my new west wing DVD's, and grow back my goatee that I accidentally cut off with my new electric shaver, which I only bought because I won $1100 in a poker tournament at the bicycle casino and I swore that I should buy myself a gift to celebrate, and also, I was a little tipsy when I was trying it out.wait, what was I talking about?ah yes, the movie. I think it's 50/50 whether I get to direct it, but it's pretty certainly going to be made next year sometime. so exciting!I think this goes to prove that Transformers sucks...
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Genetics.
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That could be the Big Blast we see , an oil tanker ship blowing up next to the Statue of liberty = No Monsters?
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worst experience of my LIFE...my film is about a man and a woman, late 20's, who are each at separate parties in houses right next to each other. the woman is at a party wth a coworker much younger, it's sort of a kegger, and she feels out of place amongst the younger people...the guy is at the party next door, also with a coworker, but this one is a cocktail party, and everyone is older than him, and he feels uncomfortable. they both go into the backyards, where they see each other on the other side of a low fence, and they start talking.in the meantime, the two parties sort of clash in the background, with subplots about characters infiltrating the other party, cops arriving, etc.you see, it's a metaphor! young life, older life, the time in between where you don't know what the hell to do. after college, before marriage, etc.at any rate, it's way too hot in my apartment. los angeles needs some RAIN!!
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Come to the UK its been raining for a month, its supposed to Summer here it sucks!!
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Yes, but what if it was Slusho in the tanker instead of oil? Slusho that became warm and unstable because of a freakishly warm January in New York?
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a friend I went to university with over on your island is getting married. but the girl I'm seeing can't go, and so I'm thinking it might be a hell of a trip for like 3 days with lots of champagne and no sex.
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no gore, no tits, maybe not even any swearing, I'm not sure. there's a few f bombs in the script, but they don't really need to be there, and I bet they'll get changed.
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While they run out of the building, there is a man on the right with a pinkish/red striped shirt. On his back is some white spot or circle. It just seems out of place on a collar shirt like that to have some spot that looks painted on.
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anyone here seriouly looking for clues on this should post on the original thread. there are alot of new ideas surfacing.
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the initial explosion? Because it was thrown. My guess is that whatever it was that attacked the Statue of Liberty, examined it after the attack, then roared in anger, throwing its head.
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and that made it flip over. Then some dumbass on a tour of the statue of liberty flicks a lit cigarette into the water setting off the big explosion. Human error=no monsters.
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The world will end on my birthday. Cool.
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and landed miles away. Anyone know how many seconds between the blast and the head hitting?
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of Sherlock Holmes. When you have eliminated the impossible then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
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it thought it was alive? Maybe it hates freedom! Alert the Bush admin.
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Okay... this just isn't adding up.
PARAMOUNT took the Ethan Haas clips down from YouTube. Only copyright owners can do that! And they don't own the ALPHA OMEGA rpg.
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of oil tanker flipping over near the statue so it's not the statue that is getting attacked but the ship. Liberty just gets caught in the blast.
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Current theory is that the Ethan Haas people put Cloverfield and 01-18-08 in the keywords of the clips on youtube, which is why Paramount took them down, and why they are now back up.
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and he mentions the two scenes from the script.
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Paramount is the copyright holder of the name "Ethan Haas" From a CBS TV show called "The Class". Paramount owns CBS
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why after the initial explosion it would take so long for the head to follow if it was not being thrown. Especially given its size.
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why after the initial explosion it would take so long for the head to follow if it was not being thrown. Especially given its size.
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Because a scene plays out in a certain way in a trailer doesn't mean that's the way it goes in the movie.
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Sounds about right...just enough time for Hillary Clinton to allow terrorists to take over.
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Just checked the trailer and it is 32 seconds from Blast to head hitting. So how far is the party from Liberty island?
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Hey guys, I'm currently having the same argument with a dude I'm almost sure is antsy/flat chest over on the unfiction forums. Same hate for AICN, same total inability to come up with links to back up his claims, same claim that they're oh so easy to find. Guess he fled to another forum to continue the bs. The guy is certifiable.
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than the other projectiles, it doesn't make sense.
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they are on the roof during the explosion. they are in the street when the head flies by. even if you assume they could get from the roof to the street in 45 seconds, that's too long for the head to have been sent flying directly from the explosion. something else happened in the meantime. QED.
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so it had to be something forceful enough to send it through the air that distance and high enough to hit a building.
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running away when people challenged him to come up with real answers. tell him not trip over the tail between his legs.
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I will if it turns out to be him. Wouldn't be surprised if I already scared him off, though.
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it's clear something else happened, it's definite. think of it this way. the guy running by saw "it", right? so it has to have been close enough for him to have seen it fairly close before that.so I think whatever "it" is, was right around that corner, and tossed the head from just out of view. that's my prediction.
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that is why it took longer to get to the party.
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it takes a while to get a crowd of people from the roof of an apartment building out onto the street. I mean 45 seconds is SO fast. it's a minute at least. you can't throw something in the air and have it land a minute later. unless it goes WAY higher than what we saw in the trailer.someone tossed it, come on guys. or else it's part of something else. it's NOT part of the debris from the explosion we see in the trailer. it's impossible.
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Ok, this about six hours late (been on the road), but I totally have to make a shirt that says "No one pisses on my church!" now.
Either that or have my 200th beer bronze plate at The Flying Saucer inscribed with your words of wisdom.
I bow to the power of your verse.
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looked guilty cause he asked for a little head at the party before he went away...
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I'm glad you brought Mori's comment up anyway, Mace, because I kept thinking for some reason the monster was creating the explosion but if it pushed a tanker into the statue maybe it's just really big.
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I just timed it and they run down in 20 seconds.
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Has anyone done any analying of them yet?
I read that they were a clue of sorts and thought I'd run them through Acid, geek about with their pitch, speed, etc.
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Artistic licence lol Remember in ID4 planes and people and dogs could outrun giant 15 mile wide fireballs...
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thank you, but I bet if you made a t-shirt saying that, people would not quickly assume you were talking about "logic and reason"... ;o)
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http://tinyurl.com/ys4jdp Hard to tell if it's the same dude. Different writing style, same bs.
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editing makes things go faster on screen than they are happening in real time within the filmic reality.in other words, instead of showing the minute or two that is actually spent running through the stairwell in a panic, they show 20 seconds or so. but within the reality of the film, much more time has passed. it's too long for the head to be part of the original explosion.plus, look at the angle it comes from, combined with the guy that just saw "it", PLUS the crowd of people sprinting away BEFORE the head starts flying in. they's a'running away from a'something biiig...
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if you make a movie with camcorders from people's perspective, you don't have as much artistic license, do you? it's "realism"!!as much as it can be, considering it's about a sea monster, lol...
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But it would sure confuse the hell out of the mostly Southern Baptist population of dear ol' Columbia, SC.
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That explains that. Wow... I sure did spend a lot of time on those puzzles... *grumble*
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...as they're running down the stairs it appears the camera goes off and on several times. For instance, we don't see them reach the landing. Therefore any kind of timing is pretty suspect and represents only an absolute minimum time between the events. For all we know these folks could have plunged down the stairs, stopped at the bottom, talked about how that monster roar and explosion were quite a surprise for an hour or so, then been frightened by something else and come outside. Or nearly anything else. Regardless, the angle at which the head hits the building doesn't really jive with a distant explosion and the vertical lift and drop that would have followed.
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there is absolutely no proof that 'cloverfield' isn't a cover; there are at least 2 big paramount projects either gearing up or just starting... couldn't this 'cloverfield' be a cover for some indy or trek action?
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Cover what for what? What's the point? Why would anyone do that?
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street when crap was raining down on you from above? So, it must have stopped and people gathered outside to find out if anyone had seen something when it starts back up again.
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That by fighting like this, you are all just letting the terrorists win?!?!?
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the original man in suit Zilla and I was in Japan (not the crappy American version).
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nothing new, be back later for any updates.
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Moriarty, tellin' it like it is.
I remember reading this stuff when it came out. Because it was DT related. Fuck that guy and his plagiaristic arse. Slusho.jp is fucking whackadoo.
What more proof do you need than the producer flat out saying...IT'S NOT VOLTRON! Jeebus. Take a breath, and wait for your giant lion robot movie with giant sword of heaven. Oh, and finally, they should make a Voltron movie about the Voltron that had cars and planes and all kinds of shit that made him a giant robot. That Voltron kicked ass! -
Abrams should be spending his time trying to get Shatner + Nimoy to be in Star Trek XI.
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Then why do scenes where a bomb is ticking off the last 30 second countdown last 2-3 minutes in Hollywood action movies?
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Noriko was lost at sea after a parasite took over her body. The waste from this parasite was tasty and this monster was feasting on her deliciousness at the bottom of the ocean. Ganu took her and the monster wants his treats back.
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2 things, I emailed the address at Slusho and got a message back 24 hours later. Second, has anyone noticed the numbering in the We'll Miss You Poster at the website? There's a 7, a 9 and a 2 upside down in the letters E, L and L.
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does this situation seem like that to you?you're talking about exteneded, dramatic effect. I'm talking about general rules of thumb in cinema.at any rate, it's clear by now, I would hope, that the statue's head is not landing from the original explosion that the people saw...
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Actually, if its not Chtulhu I'm not interested.
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When "IT" attacked the oil tanker it blew the whole Liberty statue into the air. When Liberty hit the street the head broke off and bounced around the city like a pinball untill it came to rest at the party. Untill all the camcorders are rounded up we will not know how many times the head bounced or what angles it took during it's 32 second journey. The kicker is in the movie 3 tourist walk out of the head after it lands and they tell the people in the street about the "MONSTER" attacking the oil tanker. One of the tourist turns out to be BORAT.
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....STAR TREK. And the whole trailer takes place on some ship's holodeck. Of course, if the film takes place before the original series I don't think they had holodecks then. Right? Maybe THE BORG COLLECTIVE is attacking after traveling back in time. That would be awesome.
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Did anyone else try emailing Satoshi?
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Somehow there is a wormhole that these TITANS use to come to our world.
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....MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE!!!
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be updating info every day I imagine.
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This is copied verbatim from the email I recieved from satoshi@slusho.jp: -Slusho! loves your mails!! You Can't Drink Just Six!!!- It's an autoreply.
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You Sound like a Big Baby Huey
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Paramount did not take down the Ethan Haas clips.
I could put up a series of Voltron JPGs and state that Paramount made me take down the "super secret" stills that I had of the actual movie, so I was putting those up now.
How do you tie in your unrelated game to the Cloverfield trailer?
Put up one of your Ethan Haas videos and claim Paramount made you take the others down.
There is no reason for Paramount/Abrams to lie about the Ethan Haas crap being unrelated.
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Seriously. Theres the "fuck this lame movie" ideal, Wrapped in a pretty bow. The fucking monster/invaders always destroy major landmaks and citys. They never once go too bumbfuck nowhere too relieve the tension on a trailer park.
Fucking hacks repack. Let take Spielberg's WOTW- where it's just a group of people running away from an invading force and not a bunch of need'less characters. Only we see it up all Blair Witch'Like by watching it unfold through the groups camera.---- I wonder if it's them Pepto Bismol Monsters... Nausea, Heartburn, Indigestion, Upset Stomach, Diarrhea! -
I got a reply from the website . "It wasnt supposed to happen..it was an accident. intermixed with a bunch of non-sense characters.
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Too bad too many fanyboys are bitching and bickering. I posted this several hours ago, and no one really noticed.
slushozoom.com
There are more clues. There are extra links at the bottom of the page, and invisotext too. I believe that the UFO portion even references the same Japanese town as the Slusho site (look for the ancient spacemen, or scubadivers who may have been mining the same ingredient that Slusho was made from). In any event, I hope some other people do some sleuthing. This is fun for the challenge alone. Abrams is at least making it interesting. -
Would people prefer seeing Hoboken or Bismark getting whooped on?I thought it was common cinematic knowledge that if Tokyo, L.A., or Boggey Creek isn't involved with a monster, then it is New York, New York they/it will go to. Even Gremlins 2 goes with the formula, and Q and, I'm not going to keep on.Has anyone got any idea what other sites are out there, 'cause I tried using phrases from the trailer and got jack.
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or the upcoming AVP2? I think aliens attacked a trailer park in THE LAST STARFIGHTER.
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At the Slusho Zoom site there is a hidden link to a soft drink called Cocaine and the dangers it poses.
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At the Slusho Zoom site there is a hidden link to a soft drink called Cocaine and the dangers it poses.
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'Nuff said!!!
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First, I've read some praise for the idea of leaving the title out of the trailer. Has anyone else considered the possibility that JJ hasn't decided on a title yet? Also, I don't know if there are any Firefly fans in here, but I could have sworn the movie Serenity was made for the $30-40 million range. On a side note, I wouldn't be surprised in Moriarty doesn't give us any more news from JJ for a while. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...
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You might have ruined it Mori. If a cleanup crew is shown in the begining. Then that means that NY city could have become infected with some disease and there was no monster/monsters at all, and the Parasite/Virus/Sickness was making everyone hallucinate, thinking the bombs coming in too eliminate them where monsters. Hope you didn't give away the plot Mori. I mean think about it. It might be called Parasite. If I'm right you better give me Kudos.
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If its a hallucination why is it on camcorder?
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And that is still the best monster movie. Nuf said.
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and people saying stupid shit. The splosions could be missles and bombs. Mix that in with an infection and they are seeing shit that isn't there. People seeing more then what really happened while a disasters occuring is actually very common. What happens then if your seeing shit blow up and your all doped the fuck out. I mean the kids were partying pretty fucking hard, but thats just it they aint high or drunk. they are sick. and those explosions are the the government attacking the plauge before it spreads. How about a wager!
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Did some insider tell you directing Cthulhu is wrong, or is there direct evidence it's wrong? There is evidence (suggestive) that it is. I agree that if it's not I am not interested. There have been too many big monsters, and something "new" wouldn't be, and not only would it not be better than big C, it wouldn't even be better than Godzilla (and that's bad). So do you know facts that eliminate Cthulhu?
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HELLLL NOOOO! Pilgrim now your making this sound like the I AM LEGEND prequel.
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If you moved it to Paris they would attack the Eiffel Tower.
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or is that Hollywood movie plots are alike?
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not explaining how the camcorder recorded all of their hallucinations, I think Abrams could kiss his fanbase goodbye. Needless to say, that's not the movie.
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the ThunderCats! Someone in the trailer clearly states, "It's a Lion-o!" And you gotta admit, Lady Liberty does look like Mumm-Ra in a certain kind of light. I can understand Lion-o's confusion there.
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WOTW and The Blair Witch.
Think about it... Either get a camcorded group ocount of a night running away from a generic monster, or we get people being wiped out by us- thinking monsters are killing them, because some terrorist unleased a disease. Which one sounds like it will make more money and shock the audiance wiht the twist ending. Plus JJ is talking too much.. He calls the threat The Parisite. Parisites are small orginism, some cause infectious diseases that cause people to experiance all types of weird shit. The movie would be pretty fucked up if everyone in NY was infected. Then the attacks from the military happen, but the panic and illness cause many involved in the attack to think that monsters are killing them. When 911 happened no one knew what was going on. Some where thinking holy shit this is just the appetizer. -
Oh my freakin God on a pogo-stick, did someone bother making screen-name based on "Its a LION"? For the sake of humanity, I hope you are funny, so please joke away more, while J.J. laughs at the drivel that is being proposed as possible facts.I don't see how in the hell you could get away with saying that it is all based on hallucinations, when they are shooting on video, whats the alternative, an invasion of Jihadistsisis with a weaponized hallucinagionic (I don't think that is a word).
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I liked BLAIR WITCH 2 better than BLAIR WITCH 1.
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but I get the point. of course, in my humble opinion, Aliens is nowhere near as good as Alien, and slightly worse than Alien3 (go Fincher!)...the 4th one was kinda sucky though...
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and which years?
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is made out of.
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those films are (Resident Evil, etc.)?
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There one in the movie. See how that works. Someone yells fire or he's got a gun- in a crowed building, and panic insues. Shit blows up someone says OMFG it's a "#$%^" I saw it. Others here that shit and think. OMG "@#$%" is after them. It worked in trailer form. What do you think would happen in real life form. You see that's how the movie will play out. Shit blows up people scream it over there, they pan the camera in that direction and see nothing but something blowing the fuck up or they avoid doing so (the fear of seeing it phobia) But we, even us not seeing shit believe that something is after them. When it just a bunch of fucking bombs being dropped on them to wipe their asses out, before they spread the parisite outside of the city. We see splosions on film sure, we did in the trailer. We hear crazy it's "@#$#" I saw it and see people run, but no moster and yet we still think it could be a monster. Thats how panic works. You see and do shit you don't noramally see or do, but our group is so in the thick of it that they really believe it's a monster after them. That is until the Goverment Hazmat donning Army brigrade shows up and pops a round in thier heads.
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to it sounding like an animal and one guy says he saw it and it's huge. The head of the Statue of Liberty appears to be thrown. The camera is angled at street level looking up towards something large. It is preceeded by an earthquake, something large enough causing landmass to shift? If the tanker runs into the statue, it could be caused by something large enough displacing enough water to do that. Where are you getting the government hazmet angle from?
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It's a trailer. As Bella said. Pull the strings. A large fucking explosion in hollywoodland could send Liberty's head flying. It falls and rolls. It's holywood! you know the place where knifes makes noise. Where fire sounds like various animal noises, where peoples hair returns to a perfect state after they walk in from the rain or a wind storm. Where punches sound like slapped chicken breast. What if.... wait for it... ........................................ The animal sounds are for the trailer only... or are never fully explained. they could be the sounds of the building falling from far away. Who's too say the trailer is spin. It will play mind games on you. Too take you 8.50 away on 1-18-08
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Yea, the government has no way to throw the statue of liberty's head like that.
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people saying it sounds like an animal "what kind of animal makes that noise?", I saw it, it's alive, it's huge - not clues, huh? Well, whatever floats yer boat, bud.
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ignoring the Slusho site, we also have Abrams saying that the line, "it's alive, it's huge" is the most important line of the trailer.it's something big and alive. trust that.anything else is open for debate.
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It could also be important because it's the one thing that's not actually true. I'm not saying this is the case, just to not take things at face value.
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on the camcorder footage every fifteen minutes chasing some crazy monster. That I would pay $8.50 for lol. Mori's first post said it was a Monster movie but not a Man in suit.
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"it's alive" "it's huge"
This is coming from a guy who makes a living on themes involving puzzles and misdirection. Lost suceeds on misdirection then never ending puzzle the constant mysteries without real answers and rather more mysteries. The word Parasite came out of his lips. It's the biggest clue. Outside of a few alien movies including The Blob and John Carpenters The Thing. Parisites at-least the type found on this planet tend to be small things some cause serious symptoms including illness dilusion and death.
I'm thinking you all just sore that you didn't think of it first, or that it's too artsy farty and what you really want is a big giant generic monster romping through NY again. How could anyone sell that again after Godzilla Size matters! How many times has a big something invaded New York. Remember Fail-Safe 1964. Oh shit we can be much more scarier then a man in a big green suit. Truth is of all the mosnters and big creatures put on screen non of them have equaled the vile nature we ourself create. I say we are the monsters Build fall making the ground quak and the animals noses the explosion are missiles- fired form ships or planes. Panic ensues. FTW! -
your suggesting is all. You could be right, but it's just one movie, it's not season after season. There has to be some kind of payoff or the cash cow stops mooing.
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The only thing that "We Were the Cool Kids" website talks about is saying Moriarty and everyone on this site are liars. Arthur also says it is easy to prove yet doesn't back this information up with anything. Prove it ya bastard.
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I meant buildings fall making the ground quake there shifting metal frames cause the animal noises. And the explosions are missles. 7,000 Myspace Gotta Shit Mask Wearing Parisites Gotta Eat Snakes on Optimus Flames Taint in HD DVD before this years little miss sunshines my cock!
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if Lost ended up being on the top of a building, instead of on an island, people would have been pissed as hell.misdirection is one thing, but the general public likes to be tricked DURING the movie, not in the decision making process leading up to it. bruce willis dead in the sixth sense? great. the sixth sense turning out to be a musical? not so much.Abrams wants people talking about this, and speculating on a lot of things. bt it's clear that he put that line in the trailer because he wants people speculating on WHAT it is, not IF it is.maybe it's a monster, maybe an alien, maybe a robot, who knows.but the thing making that huge semi-mechanical roar at the beginning. doesn't that sort of err on the side of "monster"?conspiracy theories are great, but you can't stray so far away from where you started that you lose the plot.so to speak.
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Cool!
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If the line, "it's alive, it's huge" is the most important line of the trailer, I think that the clue has to be searched in the part “it’s alive”. Maybe it means that the “thing” the guy is talking about is usually not alive.
Maybe they are talking about something that is NOW alive… that make me think couldn’t be a giant animal o a monster in general, but more a mechanical thing or a sort of ameba.
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Mankind:::: we live off anything we can eat, and we live in more areas than any other life form known to man, i.e. outer-space, Antartica, beneath the freakin ocean!!!What if the freaking parasite (gathered from the tastiest parts of the sea, think Long John Silvers) is consumed by man(woman) and that is what destroys N.Y.Maybe, that is the biggest clue, can't drink just six, 'cause what other life-form that we know of that purposely consumes more than it needs, only people... So, "Cloverfield is made of people!! PEOPLE!".
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Look at Transformers. Nothing but whiny bitching from fan boys and that movie did really well.
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the fanboys loved that movie. only people that actually care about decent movies, and aren't willing to put aside plot, characterization, etc., bitched about it.
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people keep saying this, but I really think the line is more important so that people don't think it's a movie about terrorism, or war, or malfunctioning equipment.as has been said before, the guy yelling that line, and its inclusion in the trailer, do not need to suggest that this thing isn't expectedly alive, but rather that whatever is causing the damage is alive, as opposed to something un-alive causing it. if this shit happened top me in real life, I'd think terrorism or earthquakes. I'd be surprised to learn that "it" was alive. not because I would have thought it was a giant toaster (something usually not alive) but rather because I would not be expecting some large marine animal filled with japanese deep water processed chemicals.also, you have to defer to my opinion, because I used "its", and not "it's", when it was proper to do so.I'm the man.
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Good work on that scoop and I'm sorry about people stealing that story and selling it as their own, but that is the problem with Internet journalism/news. Who knows how many of the millions of stories and articles out there are simply copy-pasted versions from other sources, who may have put in all the effort to try and produce a news worthy piece. The problem is firstly the amount of information on the net is too vast to be effectively monitored for plagiarism. Secondly, the lack of transparency of the articles creation and their sources can make it hard to verify for plagiarism. And also the problem of verifying the original stories and their due credit. The Internet is designed to be quickly changed and edited. As unfair as it is, I guess it is just a thing to accept to a certain degree when you are posting on the net.
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this guy is gettin completely worked up over ONE SCOOP. if you guys were really on your jobs, then one scoop would mean NOTHING. you are treating this like the holy grail, when its really your fault. you handled it badly then, and u are handling it even worse NOW. got damn CRYBABIES. cry me a riveerrrrr
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That everyone was calling Voltron, Or Cthulu, or Zilla, considering Moriarty's early article clearly established it as yet another lame, high concept puff piece. Blair Witch, but with Giant Monsters. Yaydom. The website game that generated the most interest wasn't even for this project, and the most incessant viral marketing I've seen for the film so far is AICN itself, which seems to be on a Whedon Cum Drip.
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The other guys article did contain exclusive material. The other issue is, that your both just tools (literally) being used to dissemninate information for a Paramount product. This isn't a news story. It's not journalism. Your just regurgitating spoon fed shit to build word of mouth on a B movie.
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something that i find kind of interesting is that, from the trailer at least, there's a very heavy 9/11 vibe. panic, people in the streets, the camcorders, (lots of my friends shot truckloads of video that day) that sense of total uncertainty. i think one of the reasons people may have latched onto this film as being a gojira remake is because of the fact that it's kind of the same thing that's happening. we drop a bomb on two cities in japan (after basically firebombing the entire country to death anyhow, see errol morris' fog of war) and nine years later, allowing for shooting, they come out with a film which is basically a response to said bombing. only they make it a giant monster movie, because giant monsters are much, much easier to deal with than knowing that members of your family are going to die slowly and painfully from radiation sickness with the patterns of their kimonos still burnt into their skin. we get two planes flying into the twin towers, and seven years later, someone makes a film which looks to be this country's response to a similarly devastating event. giant monster, whether reptilian or lovecraftian or what have you, is much easier to deal with and compartmentalize than knowing there is a small yet vocal and pretty gung-ho group of people who just want to wipe your ass out. i haven't seen this specifically mentioned in this talkback, but i think it's an interesting reaction to what happened in NYC and our collective response to that. if i don't see another thing about this movie i'll be in the theatre opening night, if i get flooded with viral marketing i'll be in the theatre opening night. i think it looks to be an awesome film--though we've clearly seen the money shot already and i'm not sure why, but hey--i don't make movies. i just watch them.
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Both writers are tools for Paramount to disseminate cheap advertising through. It's not like we are discussing journalistic ethics here, because there is no journalism present. It's not a scoop, its a leak. They just picked their prefered source for the first go to. Hence the fact that no one outside of geeks gave a shit, and it took more than one advance article to build up the excitment for the trailer. As for it being Voltron? Are you spastic? Why would you hide the fact that its a Voltron movie in the advertising? What could the point possibly be? To build excitment? Isn't that why you buy the rights to Voltron? Because the name itself is a selling point? By the way, I really like Pilgrims theory. It would have made for a more interesting story than Giant Monsters.
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unless you're spelling it with a q as opposed to a c. the apostrophe comes in to play when you talk about the great city of r'lyeh. yes, i am hoping there's some hint of lovecraft in there. ;)
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I know that the Voltron nuts have lready been mercilesly spanked raw, but i had to point out something that nobody else mentioned. if it is voltron...WHY THE FUCK ARE THE GOOD GUYS BLOWING UP THE CITY? HMMM?? HMMMMMM??? personally im super intrigued by the whole cthulhu soda company secret sea monster ingredient plot line.
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Rosie O'Donnell? she finally reveals her true form as the great destroyer and soft-shoes NYC into oblivion?...could be interesting
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that he preferred Alien (which would be comprehensible) AND Alien 3 (which is utterly ridiculous) over Aliens? What. The. Fuck.
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Its probably a remake of that shitty 80's monster movie set in NYC called Q? The Taste has spoken.....
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I like slurpiegod's parasitic copepoda theory. You've done your homework sir!
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if it is indeed a voltron movie, explain the city being blown up by "lions" i admit i wasnt the biggest voltron fan, but i thought that they were the "good guys" and to destroy a city sky-scrapers and all would be against their morals. am i wrong? if i am maybe you could explain to me what plot leads up to the good guys (voltron) destroying big innocent city? by the way i really have nothing against you, my friend just thinks the same thing as you but he's an idiot and you know what they say "great asses stink alike..."
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is the dude running away from the explosion yelling "its a lion!" ? and also since you love to investigate, then investigate Lovecrafts story call of cthulhu, way more similarities between that and everything surrounding this movie even the slusho site (read the history on the site)
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is obviously from an explosion and it only appears to be fluorescent because its being filtered thru all the dust/debris. you just need to admit that this really is more likely to be a million different things. although i guess voltron could be on that list of things, it is not one of the more likely sujects of this movie.
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check this out: www.myspace.com/he_arrives_011808 and read his blog. then read the history at slusho.jp its really creepy, makes me wonder why all this insanity literally everywhere on the internet to cover up a voltron movie? theres about a thousand movies i'd rather have made, and most people dont even know what the fuck voltron is.
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regardless of all i respect that you have the balls to be the one guy saying, fuck all this other shit its for sure voltron. lol. somebody has to do it.
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remember when I said after I asked you a whole host of specific questions, you were going to run off for a while, then come back later, completely ignoring the factually based evidential questions I asked?man, it sort of happened, didn't it?I'm now convinced you're just having a laugh. the oven mitt thing totally sold me.but hey, I wish you luck. I felt bad for you when I thought you were just a conspiracy wacko, but a more stupid one than usual. spewing logical fallacies (I mentioned them one by one, but of course, you ignored them)...but now that I'm convinced you're just trying to poke fun at all of us, I wish you the best of luck. hell, I'll even come to your defense!(I especially liked the "I'm not a Voltron fan" part...that wasw priceless...best of luck, brother...I guess we all need a little humor in our lives...
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the bit about the pic being "lighted" when it's obviously a cloud of smoke and debris. boy...just the right amount of crazy.I hope AICN makes a new talkback so you can start over with a whole new group of people. the ones on this talkback might be, you know, tainted. if you get to start fresh, it'll be a helluva lot funnier.(p.s. yell at me again for being insulting, and not giving you any "facts"...it'll get everyone riled up, since we've all given them to you 10 times and you've ignored them...trust me, it'll be great!)
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the bit about the pic being "lighted" when it's obviously a cloud of smoke and debris. boy...just the right amount of crazy.I hope AICN makes a new talkback so you can start over with a whole new group of people. the ones on this talkback might be, you know, tainted. if you get to start fresh, it'll be a helluva lot funnier.(p.s. yell at me again for being insulting, and not giving you any "facts"...it'll get everyone riled up, since we've all given them to you 10 times and you've ignored them...trust me, it'll be great!)
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There is no monster.
Some kind of freak accident causes the explosion, the "giant monster" theory takes hold with the crowds, and the film follows people's reactions to it. Sort of like the stories of people who heard WAR OF THE WORLDS on the radio. That's how you can do it all with camcorders, for $30 Million. No monster, just the idea of a monster. -
Quite a similar film by the looks of it. It's based in Los Angeles i think. the hero is called Ethan. Funny eh. Made by Koreans (Host creators i think) and done on a small budget also. Check the website. www.d-war.com
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Before, when you went to slushozoom.com and clicked on the image of the messed-up turtle (which was probably some sort of clue), it used to lead you to a Japanese UFO website. But now the site is GONE!
I was poking around on the website last night, and I found sections about ancient spacemen/sea explorers. They were found off the coast of Honshu, the same island form the slusho.jp website!
Furthermore, there was also a section about mysterious objects FALLING out of the sky. Besides meteors (THE TRAILER!), they talked about a white cloud of possibly a living organism descending upon towns. COULD THAT BE THE WHITE CLOUD DESCENDING UPON THE ACTORS IN THE LATEST PHOTO FROM THE 11808 WEBSITE?! I think so. The secret ingredient in Slusho turns people into monsters. The aliens started it. The invisotext describes an extinct race coming back to defeat humans, perhaps from the sea. They are spreading their other secret ingredient with their flying meteors.
But now it doesn't matter. That photo and website are GONE! They have been replaced by, gasp, A PHOTO OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY!!! That leads to another link about children or cheese. I haven't figured it out yet.
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An ad on the Japanes UFO link that disappeared was about biblical maps for sale. The ad specifically pointed out Seth, the third son of Adam and Eve. The invisotext does mention a lost tribe. If you wikipedia Seth, it describes his involvment in Armageddon.
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If we all stopped analyzing and obsessing over a film that's given very little info other than a cool trailer.....come on people- I've got my sites on world peace- anyone fancy analyzing that to this extent? Cancer anyone? The common cold. Let's just wait and see about the film and maybe try something constructive.......by the way- Kirk IS an asshole.....it would seem
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New set pic shows utter destruction
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We've already had posters nagging us about paying more attention to this movie than the current political climate, and now we've got to go fret over world peace, cancer AND the common cold? Rantman, you sound like a nice guy, but have you considered that a lot of us can MULTI-task and think about more than one thing at a time? And besides, me posting on a web site telling people to wash their hands so they don't spread cold germs will not do that much. Let's leave this entertainment site for entertainment, shall we?
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Ok, so we've heard Voltron, Godzilla, Cthulhu, etc as the various theories. But guess what..they are all wrong. JJ has fooled us all, what we have here is....
A BIG BUDGET PORNO!!!
Ok heres the facts starting with the slusho site:
1) The fish is thinking of swiss cheese: well we have all heard the vagina smelling like fish jokes, and swiss cheese is full of..holes. Obvious reference.
2) The horse, which is not a horse at all..its a donkey..or more correctly..an ASS. And it is thinking of a mitt, something you use to protect yourself..obvious reference to condoms.
3) The slogan: the bet you cant drink just 6, obvious reference to swallowing.
4) The "substance" in the slusho cups, I don't think I need to explain that one.
The trailer:
1) The going away party: obviously an orgy.
2) The roar: some people have also claimed its a woman's voice as well.. well its just a really deep and loud moan of pleasure.
3) The ground shaking: obvious really.
4) The explosion: a really really good orgasm. And the debris flying from it? She a squirter with a bad STD.
5) The "I've seen it!! It's alive!! It's huge!!" line: Ron Jeremy obviously has a cameo.
6) The head flying? Thats easy, Ron missed his mark on the money shot, hit the Statue of Liberty launching her head towards midtown.
The reason for the hand held video cam look? So it looks more like amateur porn and so that nothing gets really shown, keeping the rating down to just R as opposed to NC-17. And the real clincher: Cloverfield codename. Obviously a fantasy of Mr. Abrams or someone involved in the making of this project.
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I figured it out, it's...........Ghostbuster 3: Revenge of the StayPuff Marshmellow Man
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Keep hope alive MRX67! You're the Forrest Gump of Voltron supporters!
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I'm still with you MRX67, It's Voltron!
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I'm still with you MRX67, It's Voltron!
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I mean really, talk about a hissy pissy fit up above. So the fuck what that someone stole your scoop. It's not really causing you any money or fame dude. It was a fucking local news site, maybe 10 people saw it. Jesus, did you go around searching for any stories about this damn movie that didn't credit YOU as the SUPREME DISTRIBUTOR OF GOSSIP over this damn movie?? Get a life asshole. You prove with every post what a cocksucker you really are in life.
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so I guess Moriarty knows what the movie is about then, if hes so confidant in knowing what its not. Jj must of confided in only him.
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Your name couldn't be more appropriate.
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The monster is "Parasite". If it is Superman, the fight scenes could include damage to the Statue of Liberty. Maybe all we are seeing is a teaser for Superman II.
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Thanks for your enlightened contribution to the overall discussion sir! You have shown what a great resource of knowledge the internets can truly be. Excelsior!
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Now if we could run the creature's "roar" through a filter, to see what it would sound like UNDERWATER......
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I thank you for allowing me to get my daily requirement of irony so soon today. The Irony council appreciates your efforts.
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Has JJ Abrams said there is enough clues out there to sufficiently solve thie? If someone does figure it out how would we know? Is he fessing up once hes sees its solved? this all might be pointless if we have to wait till 1-18-08 either way.
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I said his name out loud, and this morning there's a 6.6 earthquake near here. Then a 4 earthquake this afternoon, then a 4.8 earthquake this evening.
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I mean Parasite is a Supes villan and it would work. I've read the Voltron script online and I'm excited about that flick ,but honestly if this movie actualy shows the giant monster and not just shadows and dust then we could really have something here. I magine seeing something like this live on CNN,crazy.
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Did just what it needed to.. generate buzz.. This talkback has spun so far out of control. was the point of the news posting just an "I told you so"?
I will never get these last 15 mins back... I am psyched about this movie but I guess I will have to be alot more careful digging for info..
and I would love to see the Blair witch comments put in a drawer.. EVERY thing shot with a handheld does not need to be referenced back to the blair witch... and then tagged "no thanks". the depth of that argument boggles me.
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1. There is something called "Voltron"
2. People who claim to hate this site and everyone who works for it, actually spends a lot of time here.
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As someone stated earlier, “All Questions, No answers” the Abrams way.
Trailer is intriguing and first thing that hit me; looks like M. Night Shyamalan's SIGNS.
By this I mean that in SIGNS we got a film that shows us a view of a alien invasion as seen from the eyes of some small town family. This means it could be good if it is done right.
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If that article was made comepletly from information from other articles, then where did he get the info that the line "I saw it, it's alive, it's huge." and the sound the creature makes are very important clues, since that mentioned in any of the articles here?
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Lets get things straight here, Asshole is too good a word for him. Mori once again shows he is the driving force of this website. Best writer on here and least biased.
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Still on the Voltron trip?
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lets get crack'n and see if we can, rather than continually arguing over what it may be, lets focus on what we know.
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Voltron is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, Voltron-kabobs, Voltron creole, Voltron gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple Voltron, lemon Voltron, coconut Voltron, pepper Voltron, Voltron soup, Voltron stew, Voltron salad, Voltron and potatoes, Voltron burger, Voltron sandwich. That- that's about it.
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He sits at home and jerks off to his google analytics screen. The mysteries he creates are more like "Guess what number I am thinking of?" than anything else. But bored as I am, I love it.
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It's kind of funny that you would complain about someone passing off your "journalism" as theirs when this site is infamous for doing that very thing. Remember the war between you and Dark Horizons and Coming Attractions over that very thing? Yeah. I do.
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MRX67 is on the job.
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Pass that Dutch.
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I will be disappointed if the film plays out as found footage from a camera discovered in the rubble, as this implies that the destruction we see in the trailer is merely King Kong-sized, and not full-scale apocalyptic. I note, however, that in his rundown of various theories which we should now consider discredited, Moriarty neglected to mention the Book of Revelations, Biblical end-of-the-world scenario; accordingly, I remain hopeful that the movie will more on its mind than cool scenes of stuff blowing up real good.
Furthermore, notwithstanding all denials, I’m still not ready to toss out the possible Cthulhu connection. Again, the Lovecraftian themes hinted at in the Slusho! history cannot be ignored, and for a monster movie, Cthulhu is simply and easily iconic; as Red Ned Lynch noted, “saying Lovecraftian in this case is pretty much just a way to differentiate dumb monster from directed monster and random rampage from something with deeper and or broader implications.” While I would always be keen to see a gorgeous-but-dumb giant monster movie, its would be nice if the makers would invest it with something more significant than special effects.
I’ve no particular yearning to see to a specifically Lovecraftian theme, and would personally be gleeful if the the filmmakers steered towards the “Beast of the Sea” from the Book of Revelations, and the entire Biblical catalog of disaster. That said, my guess is that the film might try to have it all ways, with the creature connected to apocalyptic monsters referenced in the similar religious traditions of all cultures - i.e., a Universalist approach to the end-of-the-world by giant monster foot. In any case, I’d welcome any kind of resonant metaphysical overtones which might elevate the film above its apparent mad-scientist experiment-gone-wrong elements.
Finally, I think it should be noted that most of the speculation concerning Lovecraft began in the wake of Harry’s July 6, 2006 column, in which Harry passed on an email promoting the Ethan Haas link and suggested that a Cthulhu element would be “unbelievably cool.” Harry asked, “Is JJ playing with Cthulhu? Is this film about the ancients returning to tear our world asunder? Is it really going to be captured entirely through hand held cameras operated by us mere ants? OR - is that just the marketing push?”
Now we have Moriarty telling us that, when he wrote his first story in late June, “I didn’t realize that Abrams was going to be pursuing a sort of veil of complete secrecy around the film, and I didn’t know he’d be creating a game leading up to the release. I actually feel bad that we sort of spelled it out as completely as we did. The one thing that he should be happy about is that no one really knew what the hell CLOVERFIELD was, so they didn’t read the article when I ran it. It certainly didn’t set the world on fire until people saw the trailer themselves, at which point we got flooded with e-mails asking, “What is that trailer? Why don’t you know anything about it yet?”
Seemingly, “we” is Moriarty and Harry. But what was it that they “spelled out... completely” - the Cthulhu connection, or the fact that the film was going to be a giant monster movie filmed by camcorder? If it is the first, we’re very ahead of the marketing campaign; if it is the second, there are probably few other “clues” to be found, as everything to be seen is self-evident.
Finally, speculation concerning the Ethan Haas/Lovecraft connection was supported by the fact that one of the actresses in Cloverfield starred in “The Class,” which concerned a character named “Ethan Haas” (anyone know another Ethan Haas?) who was a young pediatrician who throws a surprise party for his fiancé in which he invites members of the third-grade class where the couple met. I never saw any episodes of the series, but find it interesting that the Cloverfield trailer features a group of young people (including “The Class”star Lizzy Caplan) who are also at a surprise party. Accordingly, the possibility was very good that the name of the site (“Ethan Haas was right/wrong”) was an inside joke and that the Lovecraft elements hinted at on the site would appear in the movie. Even given the denials, it seems to me that inquiring minds might want to check out exactly what Ethan Haas might have said in the show which could have relevance to Cloverfield.
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He went to my video school in Michigan and is a flaming douche bag...
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there's a hidden counter (probably already mentioned) at the licence plate website
http://www.abz3293.com/
in the upper right hand corner...but it hasnt changed in days..the number listed is 208795120.
Any thoughts? I've tried number ciphers, and am still working on possible anagrams related to them.
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I'm thinking, with Abrams propensity for supplying mysteries with no answers, that maybe then monster has no name and will not really be seen. The original Godzilla was an allegory for the a-bomb attacks on Japan. Much of what has been seen so far on Cloverfield smacks of the aftermath of 9-11, with people fleeing through choking clouds of dust.
It's been pretty reliably stated that the whole movie is from the perspective of a video recorder found in the rubble. So maybe we just see the devastation of the monster, like in the trailer, without ever actually seeing it. We just let our imaginations fill in Godzilla, Cthulu, Night of Lepus, or what the fuck ever.
But the intent seems to be to draw the parallel of how Godzilla was originally, before the series got silly, about Japan getting the piss knocked out of it by the unstoppable atomic juggernaught of the United States. In easier to digest monster movie form. This will be more in the style of a terrorist attack, out of the blue. -
is a fake site.
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http://tinyurl.com/38weyw
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its statements like calling people "Goddamn idiots" that get you accused of trolling Kurz...as to the licence site, MRX, I know he won't confirm or deny it. Trying to re-compile my notes, and I also know that the site has been mentioned and confirmed/denied on other talkbacks...never by JJ, just by us...
thought it was odd that a counter wouldnt change over 4 days..
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Transformers or MI:3? Which would you choose if forced to watch again?
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Hope it is remake of that lost English classic
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could be...Whitley Streiber's book says that it's soon to be a major motion picture in 2008....but there's nothing on imdb about it...nadah....and michael bay is doing 2012? the sequel to the grays? hmmmm...apparently sony is doing the grays.....but there's no info on it.....
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We all know that you'll disappear when your bogus shit is debunked, so we will never have the pleasure of reading your "I was wrong" comment.
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MRX67, do you have paypal? I'm willing to put $100 up (3rd party bet) that it's not Voltron.time to find out if you're joking or not...
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MRX67 is NOT serious. He simply CANNOT be. But he IS the most consistently entertaining talkbacker on here. I encourage everyone to encourage him.
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I'll give you 5-1 odds...so you just have to put in $20, I put in $100...anyone willing to hold the money in their paypal account til the movie comes out? I'll trust anyone that's on the talkbacks a lot, although I would prefer it to be Prof Ikamono. he's a sweetheart.I hope this doesn't make MRX67 leave again.but alas, I DO have to leave. I'll leave you with a quote from Mori:"I'll Say This Clearly...
... this is not a VOLTRON film...This is not a remake of someone else's property. It's an original idea that Abrams sold to Paramount last year. Drew Goddard is writing it. The VOLTRON project that Justin Marks is writing is still moving forward. They are not related. I'm not speculating, either. I'm telling you that's exactly how it is, and if you spend the next six months invested in this being VOLTRON and then complain because it's not, you'll have no one to blame but yourself. You're delusional. And there's no reason for it, since you'll get a VOLTRON movie... this just isn't it."denial is a helluva drug, MRX67. (by the by, I hope th "67" is not in reference to your birth year. if you are 40...oh man...I....sigh...you should know better after that much time on this planet. -
Do you have a blog or a web-site set-up fot the movie you have in development? I'm curious to check it out. Good for you and best of luck!
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Would I lie?
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Yup. It's a little indie flick with a $200,000 budget. About Voltron.
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Another great article and some good smackdown of those deserving! (including in the TB's). This site is still the shit, more than ever. Keep up the awesome work. I hope you get paid well, you deserve it.
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Why is that funny?
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this is totally outta control now.
heres what you need to do.
PROVE TO US beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is indeed what you say it is.
we dont have to prove to you anything. we ( for the most part) are all in agreement that your wrong, so now prove to us your right.
and dont just give us conjectures give us hard hitting irrefutable facts ( ya know those things that cant be disproven)
if your so sure of yourself and willing to "sit back in the peanut gallery and have a chuckle or two" than make us non believers ( the majority of us on here) believers.
it shouldnt be so hard for you since your so sure of yourself now should it?
and the things you think you know to be true right now
cheese=france, france is a place where voltron goes, ovenmitt= flaming sword of voltron, etc... have been and will continue to be refuted.
whether or not you choose to ignore that your so called "facts" can be refuted is another thing entirely.
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Dude, Wonka says he's making a movie...and unlike a lot of other people on here, I generally give people the benefit of the doubt unless they seem to contradict themselves, etc. Now, Wonka seems to know a bit about movies, so I don't really have any reason to doubt him...after all, he didn't say he was making the next big sci-fi blockbuster or some other grandiose claim. I mean, I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt ever since you said you were a detective, when (if you're serious) it's obvious you couldn't even detect a Catholic in a convent.
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I'm on here a lot, too, because I work from home--on my computer--and get bored very easily...
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just like "Lost", shouldn't you expect a lot of hype and promise, and no follow through?
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You are a troll you goddamn idiot. Everyone was very patiently trying explain to you what they meant by Lovecraftian, what the guy's influence and style and tropes are, and that they didn't really know if it was Cthulhu or not. And all you did was stand on your desk and throw shit at people.
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This is what I've found. The next Spiderman movie will involve Voltron. Wonder Woman have Voltron in it. Indy 4 will have Voltron in it. Lucas is going to have Voltron in the Star Wars TV project. The Census Bureau announced that Voltron will become the most popular name for children in Bangladesh by 1/18/08. Area 51 has been developing their own Voltron weapon. This is the clincher : Godzilla held a press conference stating that the Cloverfield movie is about him having lunch with Voltron and Cthuhlu. Apparently the Old One walks out on the bill. They were going to use the title "The trouble with Cthuhlu". But JJ put the kibosh on that. So there you have it. ALL of the truth is out there. Just like the X-files told us.
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with the pictures of Japanese Woman with fan, statue of Liberty, the icon that says hot bath. If you click on the picture of the woman with the fan you get taken to an imdb page about a japanese movie made in 1966 called Furankenshutain no kaijû: Sanda tai Gairain fact here is the full story: An experimental lab animal called a gargantua escapes from his captors and is suspected to be the creature that is killing people all over the countryside. But when the gargantua from the lab appears at the same time as the evil gargantua, the two begin to battle across Japan. Written by Todd A. Bobenrieth {TAB146@PSUVM.EDU}
A freighter is attacked by a giant octopus during a stormy night. The octopus is then attacked buy a hairy green giant. The gargantua then turns his attention to the ship and sinks it killing and eating all the crew except for one. When the surviving crew member tells the police what happened, they call in Doctor Paul Stewart and his assistant Akemi. Several years earlier, Stewart had a younger species of the same creature and it is feared that the monster has grown up and now views man as an enemy. After several attacks, the monster is cornered in a forest in a mountain area of Japan, and is nearly killed when shot with lasers and nearly electrocuted. Just before it dies a second, bigger brown monster arrives and saves it. This is the creature that Stewart had at his lab now all grown up to over 100 feet tall. The brown one then takes the green monster away to help it recover, not knowing his "brother's" evil nature. After the green monster recovers sufficiently, he resumes his rampage. But when he stops to rest, the brown one finds out how evil his brother is and soon the two begin to fight. The green one then runs off and soon heads for Tokyo. While he is there, he grabs Akemi and is about to eat her when the brown one arrives. The green monster drops Akemi, severely injuring her. The two monsters then resume their fight and eventually wind up in Tokyo Bay where napalm bombs are dropped on them, seemingly killing them. Written by Brian Washington {Sargebri@earthlink.net}
Japanese version: The sole survivor of a Japanese fishing boat is hospitalized in extreme shock, and later tells a story that no one wants to believe. In the woods, campers and hikers disappear and leave only chewed-up clothes, and other people report sightings of hairy giants. An American scientist investigates, then a Japanese scientist recounts what happened years earlier in Furankenshutain tai chitei kaijû Baragon (1965). He had found a mutated feral boy with a flat head, named it Frankenstein, and it grew 20 feet tall, rampaged, and was destroyed. Now there is another Frankenstein, only it is 100 feet tall with brown fur all over. There also is a second monster just like it, only with green skin and fur, and it eats people. Both had grown out of fragments of the first monster's body. Both Frankensteins are nearly indestructible, both team up against the armed forces, and more monsters can grow from them. Then these Frankensteins turn against each other and wage a battle to the bitter end, with the city of Tokyo as their battle arena. American version: same as above, only the monsters are named Gargantuas, the green Gargantua had grown from a piece of the brown Gargantua's body, and the brown Gargantua's origin is unknown. Written by QQQ-2
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Dude, don't be fucking ridiculous. Area 51 doesn't make movies.
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You said they were making a Voltron weapon...nevermind.
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FAKE SITE PEOPLE.
As is, not real. As in, some crap some people made up. As in, any time you spend building a theory off of is a total waste of time. -
I used to post here until I was banned for musing on the historical merits of political assassination after the 2004 election, but this shit in this talkback is so comical I had to wade in. Only talkbackers would think, "He said, 'It's a Lion,' therefore it must be Voltron!" Yeah, a giant robot comprised of mechanical lions will be attacking NYC in a Blair Witch style mockumentary. Also, where do they grow these idiots with the trivial blood vendettas towards Mori and the staff here? All I know is that this shit better be Lovecraft or some kinda straight up mythical being/apocalypse situation, because if it's "Lost: The Movie" I'm saving my money and time for the Rev. Tori Spelling's version of Cthulhu.
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Work? You did work? I don't think you know what that means.
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We all know what's in the trailer. We also only have the Slusho history site right now as possible backstory. That story is crawling with Lovecraft. Family obsession, creatures in the sea contacting people in dreams, transformation into sea creatures. Sure, maybe none of it will factor into the movie at all. But if you don't see the Lovecraft in that you either don't know your Lovecraft or are pretty dense. People have put this way better than me before in this talkback though, and all we get from you is derision out of both ignorance and your claim that we all theink it's Cthulhu.
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This thing isn't even an ARG yet. These guys are making a monster movie. There's some creepy shit on the related Slusho site that might be a hint to the plot or might not. There is no conspiracy to make a Voltron movie, and nothing to go on until they give us more to chew on. Honestly MX, if you aren't pulling our collective leg, you're like that messed up kid in gradeschool who never learned the difference between bad and good attention. You're so wrapped up in your own delusion the rest of us can't even get a grip on where you;re coming from.
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Think I'll go outside for a while.
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I'm not gonna get into the Voltron thing, but DUDE, you're throwing ROFL and ROFLMAO around like its 1994 and you just got 10 free hours on AOL. It's causing some of us brain damage.
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ok heres where and why people have a problem with you.
your now claiming that other peolpe are lazy and waiting for others to do their work for them.
all we're asking you to do is take a minute , post a link or something and give us indisputable evidence to support your case.
how is that us not willing to do work? we're not the ones trying to prove a truth here. other people are just spitting out ideas but you claim to KNOW what this project is all about. I for one am doing my own lil bit of research over here, with nothing to show for it yet, so I dont sit here and throw out ridicuolous ideas that have been proven false.
what more proof do you need that your theory is wrong? do you need a giant voltron to pop outta this tb and slap you in the face and say "dude 1-18-08 ( or whatever its being called now) and me arent the same project... get over it"
the idea that your not at all serious about this and just sitting back having a laugh at the expense of people like me who continuously come here and call you out is starting to make sense to me.
all you wanna do is throw something out there, give a few so called facts to support it ( which have been debunked) than sit back and ignore everything else while claiming to have a so called "v word ban" imposed by oneself.
this will be my final post/rant about you because its obvious to me that the more I continue to call you out, the more it adds fuel to a dead fire of a voltron movie.
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I can't even begin to explain how much this shit bugs me. It serves no fucking purpose!Does the average moviegoer think "YEAH, I'm gonna watch this because it has a secret title!"? NO.Does this marketing shit affect us geeks? Nope, we'll watch it anyway. JJ Abrams + TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION of New York is guaranteed to attract most geeks.So why this meaningless mystery shit? It's a waste of time and money.
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VOLTRON MOVIE BY JJ! YEAH!!1 THIZ ROXX!!!11!ONEONEOEFIND THE CLUES, YOU SCOOBY DOOS! YOU CAN'T FIND JUST SIX! I HAVE A HINT: IT'S VOLTRON!! YEAH!!!11ONEONE!1!
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the next person to make the stay-puff marshmallow man joke is the stupidest jerk-off on the entire internet.
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the light because those posts are a few stories tall... Maybe i'm crazy, but I see the post that gets bowled over and it's there in the beginning as well...
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You cant drink just six! There are seven letters in VOLTRON! Seven is more than six! That's it! I'm so sorry MRX67. I should have never doubted your genius!!!!
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That Moriarty may be LYING to us (well, not about the Voltron part) in order to help JJ further this marketing plan? It seems that after the pooch screw that was the Lost season finale TB, it's entirely possible that Mori is helping with the misdirection as a way to get back "in" with JJ and his group. REMEMBER, he said there is no "C'Thulhu" in the movie - that could be a TECHNICALLY honest statement, since in all the Cthulhu spellings THAT ain't one of them. And I know the mythos pretty well. This might all be BS, but it's worth chewing on...
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It's a Roid Rage movie based on the Four horseman! Dean Malenko was one of the last members of the horseman and one of his finishers was called the "Texas Cloverleaf". Coincidence? I don't think so cowboy!
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ok new update to the slusho page.
it appears they have taken down the horse/donkey thinking of the oven mitts. it isnt there anymore. but the fish thinking of SWISS cheese still is. hmmmm interesting
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Nope. Horsie is still there. He does disappear after he passes once though. If you haven't refreshed in a while....
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The Slush history is a very Lovecraft story for several, specific reasons.
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it all comes down to the damned oven mitt.
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We're talking about very specific reasons why the story on Slusho.jp is in the style of Lovecraft. We're not talking about any fucking monster movie. How many times do I have to repeat this shit?
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cloverfield is code for tomato patch... slusho is a japanese v-8 drink.... HE'S REMAKING "ATTACK OF THE KILLER TOMATOS"
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than most other monster movies, that is all people are trying to say.
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Just because you "can" do that to "any" story does NOT mean that I and other people are doing it to THIS one. I'm talking about ONE story. The one on Slusho.jp. It has SEVERAL elements of Lovecraft including family obsession, tragedy, and sea creatures contacting people in dreams to do their bidding. But those are so common, right? I mean, that was Godzilla all over not to mention King Kong.
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The arcade game turned movie.
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Somebody took credit for my work...big deal Mori, yes you broke the story...and I suppose you deserve credit but don't go crying cause some asshole tries to pass it off as his own, does it really matter when your original story probably saw many more hits than his plagiarized scoop. If you have nothing to write about, don't write anything...spare us the fucking bitch filler.
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I hit a wall there too. Closest I could come to was Fish + Swiss Cheese = Swedish Fish, A candy as well as a mixed drink. The Oven Mitt / Horse thing escapes me, Does anyone know the Japanese words for them?
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has anyone managed to isolate and play with the sound the beatie makes?
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Thunda-Thunduh-ThundaCats: HOOOOOOOOOO!
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Putting those together makes me think of fondue. But considering that Fondue is swiss, not japanese, no clue.
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I have been trying to solve this much like the old game of concentration...
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I have a hunch, if listened to underwater, it might approximate whale song. It has the structure similar to speeded up recorded whalesong. Now of course Chewbacca's roar was a lion and a vaccum, but thats neither here nor there. If the roar is a clue, thats as good a place as any to start.
Spectrographs came in handy during the Year Zero campaign, might work here as well.
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Is there a Seahorse that becomes toxic when heated? Or becomes hot as a defense? Any Oceanographers out there? Ganu? You need gloves to handle seahorses because of the protective spiny things, but why a Oven Mitt?
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Damn, I was looking foward to the fondu.... I mean you could still eat the shrinky dinks, but still, not the same
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If you had covered your friends in cheese and chocolate and eaten them in the first place, this would never have happened.
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I apologize for that . I must be hungry. Or Dahlmer. Or both....
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Following along a Fondue line of thought (mostly because i'm hungry right now)...
Shabu Shabu is a traditional Japanese fondue plate. It is described as having a large platter of ingredients laid out. People take their choice and place it into a bowl of boiling broth. As i recall, there was a large platter laid out with food on the table at the party. Maybe the two are related. -
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In the Slusho.jp history section it says Noriko loves libations. The common definition for libations is the consumption of a beverage that is generally alcoholic. However there is a second definition. Libation also means the pouring of liquids in a ritual sacrifice to a deity. Just a thought.
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Now that we have that licked, anyone want to touch the duck in the balloon? That's not an innuendo.
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One thing I find difficult is the pseudo-bad translation that the site is trying to convey. How much of it is a clue?, how much done to show a poor translation? Noriko got drunk and fell off the boat, did'nt she?
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Violence in New York.
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Dry ice or anything extremely frozen is often handeled with an oven mitt / protective glove.
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Well let's see where to begin. No it doesn't sound like Pokemon. It sounds like Lovecraft. But I'm sure you know what you're talking about, right? The audience it's being made for is also not a factor even in the slightest, so it's utterly ridiculous for you to bring it up. Plenty of people saw Hellboy who didn't know who the hell Lovecraft was. So it doesn't matter in the slightest. You've just got a rod up your ass because you're terrified all these Lovecraft nerds might be invested in this shit, so you blather on about shit you don't know anything about, or have no bearing on what kind of movie this will be or what it might be inspired by.
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i swear only AICN TBers would take this much time trying to figure this shit out, haha. feels like i havnt been on here in ages but what can i say? been a few changes and ive been really busy.
this trailer looks pretty interesting but i have to say that it has never got a big response in the theatre and ive had 3 opportunities to see it on the big screen. the biggest response ive heared so far is one guy saying "oh come on.." after the statue of liberty's head came onscreen. so who knows, it could be a huge hit...could be a huge bomb...got my interest tho. -
So I mentioned earlier that libations can be a sacrifice to a deity. The word deliciousness is also on the Slusho history page. A synonym for deliciousness is ambrosia. Ambrosia is often referred to as being a drink in Greek mythology. Is ambrosia the secret ingredient in Slusho? Still with me? Keep following. In Greek Mythology Neptune was the god of the sea, horses and was also known as the "earth-shaker". When angered Neptune would strike the Earth with is trident and cause earthquakes. Neptune's chariot was pulled by hippocampus or horses that could ride on water. I that why we have a full bodied horse underwater? Cheese was often used as a "non bloody" sacrifice to gods by the Greeks and Romans. Blue mitts....well fuck the blue mitts...I got nothing. So there you have it. The crazy drunken chick stole ambrosia from the gods and her son used it to make Slusho. Now the gods are pissed and Neptune is causing earthquakes and is busting things up. Whew...I'm done. Time for my meds.
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After seeing the lackluster line up and the tight lipped Batman Set Harry needed something to keep up the traffic after the Transformers movie was over he called JJ and and if he could come up with something that would keep the TB going till some real cool news on real movie comes down the pipe. j/k - that means I'm kidding.
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Lighten up- I was being ironic for fuxake...please feel free to have what fun on this site you feel like having with my blessing............by the way.....it's a cthulhu or maybe a gwangi.............maybe a small ox with a wrecking ball and bazooka
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I went off my meds to come up with the greek god shit. This is the thanks I get. Well fuck it all then. Stayin medicated here on out....
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Just kidding But back when I was in NYC when I was a kid I could only find Voltron knockoffs.
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you are all being far to analytical.
The clues are way simpler than you imagine.
reload the 1-18-08. com 6 times
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1-18-08.com Registrant:
Henry Kelvin
1424 East 9th Street
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You sure do hate the Lovecraft talk.
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Pike was said to be a Satanist, who indulged in the occult, and he apparently possessed a bracelet which he used to summon Lucifer, with whom he had constant communication.
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of a few names and vague character design references.
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slightly transparent? There is a background image there as well which looks like a rocky road leading to a cave of some kind.
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Voltron, like the New York location and the giant ROBEAST attacking.
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I love that you have the nerve to imply that I couldn't have sold a script here in LA because I'm "on AICN" too much.where the fuck do you think I do my writing? in a tree? I don't imply that you couldn't work in a mini-mart, because you eat too many candy bars...they're right there! one would not preclude the other.I write on my computer, which just HAPPENS to be connected to the internet. and so during breaks, I write here, or check e-mail, etc. and when I see people like you drowning in your own self-delusion, I try to give you a hand and bring you back to dry land.you've got Mori telling you they're 2 separate films. you got magazine articles. IMDB pages. separate writers and producers. and you have NO solid facts (cheese = France is not a solid fact) to indicate it's Voltron. jut because the explosion COULD be this or that, or the roar COULD be this or that. that doesn't PROVE anything. that would just indicate a POSSIBILITY. that's simple logic, man. but of course, every time I've tried to explain that to you, you've ignored it. like the kid with his hands over his eyes, going "you can't see me!!!" so I don't have any illusions that you'll listen to it this time either. but I do have to write it for my own sanity. people using horrendously flawed logic jsut makes my skin crawl.hence, you're either a joker, in which case you're very devoted, but it's a little sad at this point. or you're truly...truly...stupid. brother, you have to trust me when I tell you that I am much, much smarter than you, and my annoyance is not due to some unique challenge you've presented to all of us to "keep on searching!", I'm frustrated because in the other TB, people were actually trying to figure things out. now we are spending all our time arguing non-sensical points with you, becase you would rather ignore reality, than admit you're wrong. it's a small man who backs himself into a corner in an argument, and then faced with a mountain of evidence that he's wrong, just starts clawing at the walls in futility.it's not Voltron. and even if you continue with your retarded rant about "the V word", and how you're "not saying it", you're still trying to go on with it. so please don't make yourself look stupid and say, "I'm not saying Voltron any more" pleae. shut up with that.it's not Voltron. Voltron is a separate movie. witha bigger budget, and at least SOME of it will happen during the day, so that we can see the big shiny robots. and there will be toys, and marketing rushes. and yes, they will eventually update their IMDB page, WHEN THEY HAVE A RELEASE DATE AND THEIR MARKETING PUSH STARTS.your ignorance of common logical fallacies is matched only by your ignorance of filmmaking and film marketing.and no, my little $200,000 film is not about Voltron. it's about two people in their late 20's trying to make the adjustment from a sort of post-college fun life, to real adulthood.I hope you get there someday. but I can't talk with you any more. it's too frustrating, and it makes me wish that sweeping education reform would come to our schools as soon as possible.
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You Quaids
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Just the two confirmed sites so far? I mean honestly, this thing has to stretch 6 months, might be a while before the next bone is thrown.
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you just keep sticking your foot in your mouth. not only have I just sold 2 scripts this year, I have a creative writing degree, a teaching degree (from Oxford), and I spent 5 years TEACHING writing.you're like 0 for 5 in your sad attacks on me. why not just give up, change your talkback name, and come back under the guise of a new person. a fresh start!man, I wasn't gonna write any more, but the fiction/non-fiction line was just too funny.
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if they try to throw in some titties, I'm gonna be mad. they have their place in movies, but mine is not one of them.there is a mooning scene though. but it's a dude. sorry brother. and it'll probably get cut anyway, it's a throwaway scene.
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Has anyone here actually read the story that is pissing everyone off? - I just read it and it's clear to me the exclusive part was the interview with his source. I didn't get anywhere that he was "breaking a story" It never says that in the story - in fact if you google Cloverfield it's everywhere on the web not just AICN- Sure some of the info is vague, but it does clear a few things up. Why so many haters on here?
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does any one else think the monster roaring actually sounds like he's calling "ROB-ERT" might explain the look on Robs face... ????
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About 1-18-08.com:
First-: Turning the party picture upside-down and the banner looks kinda like something else. I see 113 in WE'LL and on the far right it looks like a 5.
Second: I noticed that there may be a connection to the five senses. Obviously at the party it's taste. The close-up on the girls could be sight. The smoky picture could then be smell. Which would leave hearing and touch.
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So no one feels the responsibility to credit you with anything.
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And about the Slusho site:
It says you can't have only six and at the bottom there are two sets of cups of Slusho. On the left 8 have been drunk with 1 left. On the right only 5 have been drunk with 3 left. So the girl drank enough but the boy still needs to drink. Assuming the children are above their sets of drinks. Work with that. -
Guesses.So, did anyone else catch the thing on FoxNews that said the government can, and does, listen in to people via their cell phones? They said that even if you turn it off they can use the microphone on your' phone, unless you take out the batteries.I have nothing to add...
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the "robert " roar ...that would explain his concerned looks.i like the idea...
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listen to the trailer again for me.. cos it may just be my imagination after all these days on this thing... but both roars sound like the monster is calling "ROB-BERT"
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Quit fighting over and solve this riddle. Stay on task and solve this thing.
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You act as if JJ had anything at all to do with the plots of Season 3 Lost...
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What a heart-rending tale of the Blair Witch girl up above! God, if I was her, I would want to go jump off a bridge somewhere. Well done, dear lad. Well done. Spiteful bastard :)
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Dammit! Yeah, that movie was a guilty pleasure back in the day. Not so much the Daryl Hannah remake, though.
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[edit] Description:
Homer's brief description in the Iliad[1] is the earliest literary reference: "a thing of immortal make, not human, lion-fronted and snake behind, a goat in the middle,[2] and snorting out the breath of the terrible flame of bright fire".[3] Hesiod's Theogony follows the Homeric description: he makes the Chimera the issue of Echidna: "She was the mother of Chimaera who breathed raging fire, a creature fearful, great, swift-footed and strong, who had three heads, one of a grim-eyed lion; in her hinderpart, a dragon; and in her middle, a goat, breathing forth a fearful blast of blazing fire.
AND SO...The Chimera was finally defeated by Bellerophon with the help of Pegasus at the command of King Iobates of Lycia. He shot the Chimera from the air, safe from her heads and breath, since Pegasus could fly;[6] a scholiast to Homer adds that he finished her off putting a lump of lead on his spear that melted when exposed to Chimera's fiery breath and consequently killed it.
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The second one, not so much.
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Okay people who are posting the Myspace crap... if you click the blog on their sites, it will tell you in the left hand column when they created their myspace... half of the dumb myspaces posted on here are complete crap ade like 2 days ago by teenage fuckheads with nothing better to do than lead everyone in the wrong drection.
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of this film being Cthulhu influenced based on the Slusho site. The Voltron elements are minimal, I think they are less convincing.
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That's what the movie is about.
http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue13/ar13japanunder.html
http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue13/ar13dogu.html
look up dogu and kappa. the city of Mu. Alpha Kappa Mu.
slushozoom.com had a picture of a kappa, but removed it and replaced it with a statue of liberty picture. the picture of the kappa used to link to an article that described dogu, but has been replaced with the ciakids cheese page.
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Man, I just love typing that over and over.
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Not the mystical creature from Edipus Rex But Leon Sphinx Come to return to ring and destroy NEW YORK.
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Has anyone considered that the tagline "SLUSHO MAKING FRESH IMPROVEMENTS. JUST FOR YOU" is an anagram? Though I have yet to complete one that utilizes all of the letters, I am able to assemble "THE MONSTER IS A....." Maybe its just a coincidence but if anyone else has thoughts along these lines I'd like to hear them!
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Where Hulk Hogan is the referee and is all like "Suck this, brother!" and then totally elbow drops Werewolves in the chest. little-dudes.co.nz
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Gruffness Homo Virus Jump Yolk
Groovy Hummus Lisps Junk Offer
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The guy who made this weird site,
www.jan182008.com, is named Rick Howard. Rick Howard is also a Pro Skateboarder, he can be seen at, www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/results_byskater.aspx?SkaterID=388,
and he looks a Hell of a lot like the guy in the trailer talking to the camera at the very end, "Best night of your life." The picture is about 5 years old, and I'm sure it's a longshot at a connection, but the jan18 site is really strange. I've been looking at "Ginaric" and it makes me think this site really does have nothing to do with Cloverfield, but, you never know... -
can be:
False Shrimp Monters Given Hokum
Fresh Monster Lovemaking is Humps
Gimp's Rehash Monster Movie Flunks
Shaking Sperm Flush Monster Moviebut they are fun...
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Quit fucking around with MRX67...I asked you a serious question HOURS ago...do you have a blog or web-site about your movie in development? I'd like to check it out; I'm attempting to make a go of it myself as a writer...comic books for me, although my degree is in film and I did do a little work for an indie producer back when I was in school (circa 2000-2001). Anyway, I am legitimately interested and am not fucking around in any way...so quit screwing around with MRX67 (he's fucking KIDDING anyway) and tell me where I can find out about your movie, dude.
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all they've done is set up a deal to buy the script.you can see a few things I've done here: www.sparefilms.com but it's not much of a website yet. when I get back from my trips, I'm gonna work more on it. showing "Henri" at a couple events here in LA was where I met the producer who eventually went to my agency to try to buy the script I had mentioned to him. I still have more time to polish it, hence the september date. but they have the first look deal, and it's already a lock. it'll just depend if they buy it, and have someone else rewrite it, or let me a part of the production. but I haven't ever worked as a writer on a feature yet, so we'll see.but it's exciting all the same. so no website yet, no nothing yet. hell, we wouldn't even start filming til next year, so it's gonna be a while. things are all hurry up and wait in this business, I've found out.also, if anyone's from new york, I want to know a really good restaurant in manhattan, since I'm gonna make the guy I'm meeting buy me a nice dinner. I don't eat meat, but I do eat seafood....mmmmm....
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Even though no one asked. Ha ha. A leviathan is a fire breathing whale. sea monster.
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I will check out that site tomorrow. So how do you eventually see this film being released (I know it is a long way off...just asking)? Do you know if the producer ultimately plans on taking the film on the festival cicuit to try and find someone to distribute it theatrically, or does he just do dtv stuff?
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yeah
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Are you in the Guild?
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not Director's Guild
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I am from NY. There is a place on Barrow Street(off Bleeker and 7th) called "One if by Land, Two if by sea." They have seafood and veg dishes. $100 per person at least, without drinks. Great food and atmosphere.
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thanks!general, it remans to be seen, but this guy doesn't do DTV horror ultra low budget stuff. it's much more festival things, but he's had some real successes so far. so we'll see. I really don't know much, yet. I'm trying not to think too much about it, and jsut focus on rewriting until I have to do my travelling.and now I have to go to bed.
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I'm not in the Guild yet, but I'm joining in August out of necessity.
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Moriarty really broke most of the important info. We know its organic, we know it will be filmed from the point of view of the characters by way of their personal recordings. We know its a giant monster attacking a city. Really, all thats left is the definition of the creature. I feel like anything that is unlocked from the slusho site will only confirm these facts, and therefore won't seem like clues but confirmations of what we know already. My hats off to Mr Abrams for making the viewers active participants instead of passive seat fillers.
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Has anyone come up with anything from the History page yet? You know, if you ever over the fish you see cheese and if you hover over the horse you see an oven mitt? I've been thinking about it for days but it seems like something that would be relevant.
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the painting on the top left is "The Birth of Venus" by Botticelli. The painting at the bootom center is, you guessed it, "Clover Field", by an artist named Alexandra Nechita
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I keep coming back until someone REMEMBERS seeing Richie!
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Ok. I have a laptop with a LCD so im no sure how to proceed if you have a different set-up. Save the largest wallpaper of just the Slusho Cup in the download section, and make sure you save it to a program with zoom features(i know most do). Open it and zoom in as much as you can. Now, for those of you with laptops, take your screen from its current 90 degree(apprx) angle and pull it towards you until its about at 45 degrees. Look at the images visible from only this vantage point. It looks like flames, but scroll in all directions to see if you agree, esp. above the "i"s. Do you see figures? Do you see any faces?
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the writer, Drew Goddard, producer, jj abrams and director, matt reeves, came together, came up with an idea and shot a trailer. They brought the trailer to paramount who went wild and released it into cinemas. There is nothing new in this at all. there is no movie at all. just a mock up of a trailer for a potential movie. There is no actual name for this film. Paramount fucked up by accidently leaking this movie out before its time. there is no script for this film. none and they are holding back because of the pre-negative buzz which precipitated the launch of Transformers(which 150 million and will make more). So paramount is holding back and being very cautios.
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If they find the video evidence, or Rob turns into a monster.Ya, know, if you listen closely and hope to hear the word "Robert" when the monster (I'm guessin) screams/yowls, then it is possible... Then again...
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If Pike is a real "clue," and not planned misdirection, we are definitely looking at something bigger than a straightforward mutant monster movie.The Whois info for 1-18-08.com lists the registrant as "In Hoc Signo Vinces." The phrase means "in this sign you will conquer" and is part of the Scottish Rite Freemason's crest.
The contact address listed is for the George Washington Masonic National Memorial in DC. "In Hoc Signo Vinces" is inscribed on the memorial.
Albert Pike (1809-1891) is listed as the site administrator. Pike (1809-1891) "indulged in the occult" and was rumored to be Satanist who possessed a magical bracelet which he used to summon and communicate with Lucifer. Pike was allegedly the Grand Master of a Luciferian group known as the Order of the Palladium (or Sovereign Council of Wisdom), and it was through Palladism that the cult of Satan that was introduced to Masonry. In 1801, Issac Long, had brought a statue of Baphomet (Satan) to Charleston, South Carolina, where he helped to establish the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite. Long apparently chose Charleston because it was geographically located on the 33rd parallel of latitude , and this council is considered to be the Mother Supreme Council of all Masonic Lodges of the World. Notably, Baghdad (in Iraq/Babylon) is also located on the 33rd parallel...
Pike was Long's successor, and, in the mid-19th century, was purportedly introduced to the Illuminati (the "Enlightened Ones"), a secret society dedicated to the abolition of Christianity and the establishment of a one world government. Inspired, Pike authored a ritual guide for Freemasonry which governed the transition of the average high-ranking mason into a top-ranked (33rd degree) Illuminati mason - a secret society within a secret society. Because this inner circle is opened to the very, very few, most Freemasons have no genuine knowledge of the Luciferian purposes of their organization. (In this aspect, Freemasonry is not unlike Scientology (Xenu), Mormonism (Exaltation), etc.) In his 1871 handbook, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, Pike wrote that "Every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion... Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled, to conceal the truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it."
At the center of the religion was Lucifer, the fallen Angel of Light, about whom Pike rhapsodized, "LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!"
Whether by coincidence or via his hotline to satan, Pike allegedly planned or prophesied three world wars that would result in the eradication of Christianity, Zionism, Islam, and Atheism and the rise of a New World Order.
The Third World War, Pike purportedly wrote, would be "fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
The Luciferian apotheosis occurs with the establishment of a "New World Order" - a facist One World Government, which, after the earth's population has been reduced by two thirds (by war and cataclysm), will exercise complete and total control over every human being.In his book The Two Babylons, Alexander Hislop wrote that
"It is admitted that the secret system of Free Masonry was originally founded
on the MYSTERIES OF THE EGYPTIAN ISIS, THE GODDESS-MOTHER,
OR WIFE OF OSIRIS." Isis is the Egyptian name for the Babylonian goddess Ishtar, otherwise known as Athena (Greece), Minerva (Egypt and Greece), Astarte (Syria), Cybele (Rome), Ashtoreth (Israel), and Diana (Ephesus). The Statue of Liberty is a representation of Isis, a pagan licentious queen of vice and prostitution. Also known as Ashtoreth, the "Queen of Heaven" and pagan "Mother of God," "Madonna" and "Celestial Virgin." She is the "the daughter of Babylon" in the Book of Revelation who sits"upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of
blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. . . And upon her forehead
was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE
MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH"
(Rev.17:3-5).(Notably, Babylon once stood in the country now known as Iraq...) Originally presented in 1884 as a gift from the French Grand Orient Temple Masons to the Masons of America in celebration of the centenary of the first Masonic Republic, the Statue of liberty holds a Masonic "Torch of Enlightenment." Purportedly, the sculptor, Barholdi, designed the statue as an effigy of Isis, and originally intended it for the the Suez Canal, but the statute was rejected. Accordingly, Lady Liberty was given to the American Freemasons by the French Freemasons as a gift in honor of the Declaration of Independence. (Interestingly, the Cloverfield trailer premiered over the July 4th Independence Day holiday...)
Many Christians and non-Christians alike regard New York City as the modern day "Babylon." Revelations Chapter 18 begins, "And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having
great power . . . And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon
the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of demons, and the
hold of every foul spirit . . . For all nation have drunk of the wine of the wrath
of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with
her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance
of her delicacies."
Seemingly, then, we may be looking at a Biblical end-times film, or at least something involving Satan, or a Larry Cohen "Q"-style version of "the Beast from the Sea." (I also detect possible themes from Cohen's "God Told Me To." Is it really possible that Cloverfield could recycle primary conceits from three different Cohen films - "Q", "God Told Me To," and "The Stuff"?...)Finally, the most on-point "clue" I've contemplated lately would seem to be Revelations 1:8, which states, “I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING,” saith the Lord, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Wait - what was that "debunked" Ethan Haas site supposedly shilling? (Answer: "Alpha Omega rpgBTW, in another possible 9/11 connection, in "Call of Cthulhu, when the protagonist's dreams reach full-fevered intensity, "hysterical Levantines" mob NYC police.
Again, in keeping with an over-arching, all-encompassing Illuminati conspiracy theory, perhaps Cloverfield simply dumps EVERYTHING (Illuminati, George Bush and 9/11, Isis/Osiris, Lovecraft and Cthulhu, Godzilla, Frankenstein, Revelations and 666, etc.) into a mix in which, at is core, Satan is an extraterrestrial who has been cast down from "Heaven" to the depths of the earth. Although he has interfaced with humanity via dreams since time unknown, he has now been roused from sleep to bring on WWW III and the apocalypse.
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Man, talk about too much information...
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...and some guys need to learn how to get to the point more quickly and efficient.
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I have deduced that were are looking at a movie financed at least in part by some supporters of the bush administration. Those people who sit in cafes and have long lists of recent earthquakes, because to them that is a sign that the world is about to end. Tony Robinson did a program and it was very intresting the stuff he came up with. Nero when he was freefalling in his mental breakdown. Drew up a list of those who were un roman. They were stamped with the 666 mark and the people who in nero's eyes were unroman fled after being marked and they were scattered throughout europe where they told stories which were handed down for generations to come. One survivor of Neros Purge ended up in a Cave on a greek island. also after being scattered through out europe, these groups of people, saw what we know now as toadstools. These had hallucinagenic qualities and lead to these people going mad, they wrote there stories down. The guy who ended up in the greek cave, not only wrote his story down but left behind cave markings. it has been suggested that St. peter wrote what was to become the book of revelations. Tony Robinson on his illumating trip, revealed that is not the case and he traced back the origins of the book to that cave in greece.
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I thought Lost prophet would have been on epevensie's case, ready to shred epevensie by calling him rambling idiot or saying things like he makes my head hurt or can we not ban him.
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If you posted that over multiple posts, there may have been a chance more people would have read that. Plus there's no jokes, tb slang, nothing.
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As much as your rambling incoherent crap drives me mad.
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I am forced to stop as it is dull. The difference between that rambling load of bollox and you, emeraldtool (You make me ashamed to have Irish blood btw), is that the aforementioned rambling load of bollox is written in complete sentences. It doesn't look like the deluded scrawlings of a ritalin deprived ADHD kid. understand?
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.....Cthulu AND Godzilla both rise from the ocean at the same time and join forces to wreak havoc on New York.......only to be confronted by VOLTRON!!
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that everybody is right? Well, that makes sense. I don't think they have a script yet. They just made the trailer, and are now waiting for people to give them good ideas for the monster and plot. I hope they don't put to much weight on what they read here on AICN, or else it will be 90% voltron stuff.Fuck viral marketing up its stupid ass.
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...as I'm now gonna call this talkback. Not that I'm any better, what with all my Cthulhu rantings...
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of Annie. 64 foot orphan girl attacks new york and brings down buildings through force of her caterwauling.
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Wait ... $11 ... 9/11 ... of course!
In all seriousness, a couple thoughts: anyone else find it unrealistic that there's a giant fireballish thing on the horizon, and the camera decides to follow a couple flaming projectiles?
Also, the fireballs(?) that hit the nearby building is coming from the wrong angle if its origin is the same as the tracked projectiles/giant flame thing, so that's either a mistake or an indication that there are multiple things going on
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Watching the trailer, when those fireballs shoot out from the main explosion, about two seconds before the camera guy turns away, I swear that those fireballs started to split into smaller fireballs, and those could have had different trajectories. I've been a dork and watched done slo-mo on the hi-def trailer, and I swear that's what I'm seeing. Or it's a lion.
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The angle change is too steep. He follows them straight up in the air. If they were making a parabola (out to the left and then back in to hit the building behind them) they'd have to have gone off to the sides from the beginning.
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It seems so "perfect", don't you think? It's like the fireball is EXPANDING, not just erupting. I don't know if that's intentional or not, but that seems to be a clue too...a perfect explosion with these uniform projectiles.
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you are right. the projectiles do break in mid air which is indicitive of something that is self combusting or capable of air burst because of the intense heat being surface cooled from the airflow around it or the nature of the air being cooler around it. sulfur or brimstone is one chemical in nature that does this. a pyroclastic reaction...or it could just be a cool special effect.
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That was most informative, sir!
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Abin Sur, that's the first thing I thought as well: not an explosion, but a moving/expanding fireball a la the ships burning through the atmosphere in ID4.
I tried to do a pic, but my art talents are non-existent. The projectiles off the main body all look like they're following a natural course, so even a parabolic out-then-in isn't feasible. I rewatched it, and though I wouldn't swear to it, it looks like the projectiles smashing into the nearby buildings are originating from *behind* them, that is, opposite the fireball. -
is impossible to define if you are looking at them straight on or even from a slight angle...i think....
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But even approximate it's not realistic. The angle on the roof from the explosion viewpoint to the staircase *appears* to be less than 180 degrees. For the projectiles to have originated from the explosion and still hit the way they did, the angle would have to be substantially greater than 180 -- at least 225.
Now, it's feasible that he's turning around so fast that I'm misreading his angle of turn, but honestly, I don't think so. In all seriousness, my spatial recognition skills are superb (I never get a "which of these is the object rotated 180 degrees" question wrong) and I trust them, otherwise I wouldn't have brought it up. The first time I watched it, I knew something was wrong with the angles, and no subsequent rewatching has dissuaded me from that opinion. It looks wrong to me, which says it either IS wrong, or there's something else we're missing. -
The first one was what knocked the power out momentarily and was reported on that news broadcast. Now we don't know what path the explosions are following - they could have been in a row or across town. But if there were additional explosions off camera then that could explain the angle of the fireballs.
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Like I said originally: "an indication that there are multiple things going on". But if there are other explosions going on, doesn't that hurt the various "it's Cthulu/Voltron/etc" theories, because multiple explosions would indicate *multiple* entities.
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Those flaming projectiles could be what are known in the Cthulhu Mythos as the "Flame Creatures of Cthugha" OR the "Fire Vampires of Fthaggua." I know I'm reaching, but even now I hold out hope.
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...for Voltron, I just gave you shit for using internet slang like a 13-year old girl. So pardon me while I continue to discuss Cthulhu and all his brethren.
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If you're going to do a Cthulu movie right, you either have to do it in Victorian England (cf Neil Gaiman's "A Study in Emerald") or in Brahmin Boston, not modern New York City. It shouldn't be a disaster film (do we really want to see F18s shooting missiles at the Old Ones?), and no matter what 1188 ends up being, right now the trailer is pushing the disaster film angle. Voltron, in my opinion, makes more sense because it can fit in a modern world better (note: I don't think it's Voltron).
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If you've read any of Lovecraft's contemporaries (August Derleth, Donald Wandrei, Robert Bloch...) some of them (Bloch especially) told very strong Lovecraft tales set in more modern times. And I would consider it a disaster movie up until the point where the Statue of Liberty's head is cleanly severed from her body.
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But again, if this is a Cthulu movie, imo they're fucking it up. So I disregard the Cthulu theory. DISREGARD AND SHUN!
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Wow, the evangelicals ain't going to like that!
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Seriously
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I think I missed this when I was growing up.
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In one, five robot lions merged to form a super robot, in the other, fifteen vehicles (five air, land, and sea vehicles) merged to form a super robot. Voltron would be fighting some other big robot/monster, and then the battle would go back and forth until Voltron remembered the giant sword, which he used to win. Why he didn't use the giant sword from the beginning was never answered.
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It's power rangers, then. And people want a live action version of it?
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Fighting RODAK and his evil Lugo Men? Those Lugo Men creeped the hell out of me when I was a kid.
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LP: Voltron was much better than MMPR, although there were similarities. Voltron had some great secondary plot lines. Plus the lions were really cool.
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Tell us more about Shrimp Monster Hokum.
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I probably need to see it. How's about an updating of Blake's 7
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I was giving shit to people about THAT since day one. ;)
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Because my sanity has come to an end. Good night and good luck.
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maybe, seeing as AICN has been breaking all the news it is a Voltron adaptation, and they are cleverly trying to hide it by spreading it around. And if you believe that you really need to get a better tin foil hat. Still lost as to why anyone would want a film of it though.
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Wow, way to totally not read the posts. Kneejerk often?
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Whenever I think I've figured out the Supreme Being angle, I think of this quote: "The universe is not just grander than we imagine, it's grander than we CAN imagine." Our little brains can only comprehend a fraction of a fraction of the complexity of everything - although some good weed helps. There is no argument for or against a creator that is completely infallible.
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what if...we are actually created by ultimate super smart person, and he has created everything as a school project, and his race is highly evolved so this shit doesn't even come up. Will the universe be destroyed the day after he gets his grade? (Apologies to Asimov)WERE ALL DOOMED I TELLS YA. FEAR THE COMING OF THE DUSTBIN
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Jeff Bridges has been cast as King ZarkonandHugo Weaving is Prince Lotor!!!
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does anyone actually give that Intelligent design nonsense any credibility at all. Surely it's just a shitty way of shoehorning creationism into science class?
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Creationism is the belief that God said Let there be light and he created Man in 6 days, i.e. no Evolution. Intelligent Design says there's Evolution, but that God is an active participant in how Evolution occurs. In other words, besides the biological impetus to evolution, there's a divine one.
Frankly, Intelligent Design is a crock of shit. It makes God look like this crotchety old Gepetto-like figure, who has to keep monkeying around with His creation in order to get it right. I call it Unintelligent Design. MY God was smart enough to get it right the first time. Another way to show ID versus My View is as follows: With ID, Evolution is happening with assistance from God. With My View, Evolution is happening BECAUSE of God.
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The point I was trying to make is that ID is a way of cramming religious dogma into scientific lessons where it has no right being. That's what Divinity (or whatever religious education class is called nowadays) is for. Teach whatever religion you want there, but don't stray into subjects which you have no right being in. It is a crock, by the way.
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Jul 17, 2007 11:04:52 AM CDT
We apologise for the delay, and are pleased to announce
by lost prophet
that your normal TB service has now resumedYOU'RE ALL BASTARDS> IT'S VOLTRON>IT's NOT IT'S LOVECRAFT> IT's MISS PIGGY.... etc.
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Perhaps - but things get almost impossibly byzantine once you get pulled into Illuminati/One World Government/Secret Societies conspiracy theories and their related Anti-Christ/Pagan Religions/Whore of Babylon/Death Cult scenarios...
Essential thrust of my post is that, unless JJ Abrams is trying to massively misdirect geekdom by sending us on a wild goose scramble through the history of Freemasonry and the Illuminati, the "monster" would definitely seem to have occult origins related to ancient, pre-Christian Middle Eastern religions (e.g., the child-sacrificing cults of Moloch, Baal, etc.), with connections to modern paganism (Aleister Crowley, the Illuminati, etc.). This fits nicely with Lovecraft/Cthulhu scenarios, as well as almost any other epic-sized evil which might be observed in the history (and prehistory) of man. It also allows for a Godzilla-like symbolism in which the destruction in the film parallels a historical precedent - in Godzilla it was our nation's use of atomic bombs in Japan, in Cloverfield, it is the destruction of the WTC by MIDDLE-EASTERN terrorists. Most significantly, when specifically considered in the context of Albert Pike and his alleged Luciferian enthusiasms, the beheading of the Statue of Liberty (Isis) is not merely "cool," but fraught with thematic significance.In particular, I would direct your attention to the Egyptian Delta Cycle Myth, which occurs during a period known as the "First Time" - an era where the gods roamed and ruled the world. (Hmmm... see a Cthulhu/Alpha Omega-Ethan Haas was Right connection?) Among the deities then traversing the earth were Osiris, husband of Isis, and Set - a spirit of evil so cruel and destructive that he literally tore himself from his mother’s womb. Set seizes power by murdering his brother Osiris and then institutes a reign of terror during which he enslaves his sister, the goddess Isis. Isis is the wife (and sister) of the murdered Osiris, and is pregnant with Osiris' child.
Isis escapes to the swamp of the Delta and gives birth to a son, Horus, who is destined to avenge his father’s death. Once grown, Horus emerges from the Delta and the "counsel of the gods" determines that Set's crown must be given to Horus. Set is enraged and challenges Horus to a battle in the sea, with both of them taking the form of a hippopotamus. During the battle, Isis attempts to assist Horus, but does not do so. Enraged by her failure, Horus rises from the water and cuts off his mother's head.Again, one can easily see similarities between this myth, the Slusho! history, the Cthulhu mythos, and any number of pagan beliefs and belief systems.
Perhaps Cloverfield is a the ultimate conspiracy film in which members of secret societies devoted to bringing about one-world government (e.g., the Illuminati, etc.), unwittingly unleash a demon at the heart of the world - a primordial being bent on the enslavement of all humanity.BTW, while I'm sticking to my "effects are unfinished" theory regarding the look of the explosions in the trailer, has anyone considered the possibility that the US military is already engaged by the time our hapless party-goers are observing the activity in lower Lower Manhattan?Also, given the clear visual parallels to 9/11 which we've seen so far, and which are arguably in the service of a giant monster movie, where is "too soon" brigade?
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size. bloody hell. You don't do things by half do you?
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it's just friggin senseless, useless, loads-o-crap information with no leitmotif.
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"It's a Lion" + Egypt = Sphinx = Revelations "his mouth as the mouth of a lion" + The Beast 666 = Voltron?
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I was just clicking about on www.1-18-08.com when a window opened, asking me if the website was allowed to access my webcam and microphone! has this happened to anyone else?? what does it mean??
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and now I got some naked chicks dancing on my desktop.cool
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t: it is about putting God in the science classroom. I was taught Biology (and thus Evolution) by a Nun, for Chris'sakes, and ID was never brought up (Catholics accept Evolution).
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damn, and I thought it was some cool viral thingie :-)
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No, I got nothing. Sorry.
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It's impossible at this point to start bouncing about what influences are going to appear in the movie because we don't really know. Yes, Miss Liberty's Head taking a vacation from her body could be symbolic of Isis, but it could also be the standard "demonstrate the degree of seriousness by destroying a treasured monument" cliche that we've seen in POTA, ID4, etc. We can't actually make the intuitive leap to Isis until we've established that there are Egyptian or Imperial Roman influences in the film.
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Who the FUCK would buy Prison Break figurines? I mean, really, who?
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And that question chrth would probably have a disturbing answer. MRX67, why did you buy your prison break figurines?
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And Chrth, the fact that we don't KNOW what the influences are is the reason why we can speculate at all. You agree that, "Yes, Miss Liberty's Head taking a vacation from her body could be symbolic of Isis, but it could also be the standard "demonstrate the degree of seriousness by destroying a treasured monument" cliche that we've seen in POTA, ID4, etc. We can't actually make the intuitive leap to Isis until we've established that there are Egyptian or Imperial Roman influences in the film."Although I certainly can't PROVE the "Egyptian" influence in the film, website info previously discussed ad nauseum has already pointed us towards Albert Pike and Freemasonry, which necessarily leads to the Illuminati and the pagan representation of ISIS which we know as the Statue of Liberty. Read the history of Lady Liberty - she is not merely "symbolic of Isis," she IS ISIS. (See my previous posts.) While I agree that the film may be overtly "simple," the EVIDENCE so far is that it will reference lots of different mythologies concerning over-sized destructive entities to the extent that it might be more than a simple "monster movie." My posts are detailed because they has to be - if you don't know the mythologies and histories at issue, you can't see the connections. Again, the beheading of the Statue of Liberty (who is not figuratively, BUT ACTUALLY a depiction of the Egyptian Goddess ISIS which was originally intended to be installed at the Suez Canal) by the trailer's "monster" would seem to DIRECTLY mirror the decapitation of Isis in the Delta Cycle by HER SON. (See the Slusho! history regarding the apparent origin of "the monster" which takes place in the context of a mother-son relationship.) Similarly, the 9/11 connections to Babylonia are overt and fodder for religious conspiracy/NWO theories which gain traction every day. Moreover, these possibilities are all extremely cool. Why wouldn't you want to see a movie about a rampaging monster that is revealed to actually be a demon - Moloch, Baal, or Lucifer himself? How about a film in which Dick Cheney reveals to George Bush that he (Cheney) is actually an acolyte of Cthulhu and that George Bush's efforts to bring about the New World Order has resulted in the release of a ravening beast harboring a hate of all things human?
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http://i15.tinypic.com/6cemxoh.jpg
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in the Cthulhu mythos which could be tied into the Biblical apocalypse and merge a lot of these elements.
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I know what you are referring to, but what gives you the idea that Abrams and the writer of this film are that steeped in this sort of pagan mythos to use the Statue of Liberty in such a fashion? I highly doubt it. It would be interesting if they had collected all of these elements to make a conspiracy film like that but it usually doesn't happen in Hollywood.
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If you are serious, then you are fucking insane. Period. I pray to the God of all that is holy that you are not in law enforcement, because, sweet Jesus, no wonder it isn't safe to walk the streets at night. If you are not fucking kidding about this, then I can honestly tell you that you are truly fucking stupid.
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But where exactly are people getting 9/11 stuff from the trailer? As far as I can tell, the events depicted would generate the same reactions even if 9/11 hadn't occurred. Or are people getting it from a different source?
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Can you PLEASE call the Mark Gordon company and get a fucking statement from them on the status of the Voltron movie? Harry, I am about to e-mail you the ocntact info...
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it's just that it gives off a 9/11 vibe taking place in New York and the people running in the streets and the new image with the ash and dust on the 1-18 site.
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still in Texas, and everybody else associated with the site is probably working (well, except Herc of course). Throw in the fact that this is essentially a stale TB at this point, and posting comments to Harry, Mori, et al. is not likely to generate a response.
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Godzilla (with Broderick) and Die Hard 3. So instead of drawing parallels to 9/11, I think we should be doing that with Die Hard 3. Rob is Bruce Willis, the cameraman (who looks a lot like Rob by the way) is Samuel L. Jackson, and the monster is Jeremy Irons trying to loot all the gold downtown.
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Once gain, I agree with your post. Who says that it has to be a straight-cut Cthulhu movie? It could be incoporating a lot of end-of-the-world scenarios. I was actually going to write a book using and idea like tha, but I decided to do the book series I originally was going to do instead. Oh, well...
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The explosions and destruction take place in Lower Manhattan, in the former vicinity of the WTC. I agree that any scene of such destruction in NYC will evoke images of 9/11, but this seems altogether intentional; if not, it it will probably be deemed remarkably insensitive. Further, the third photo on the 1-18-08 site, depicting survivors struggling to breath in soot-filled air, could easily have been taken on 9/11.
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Ok, so following on my last post. The monster is not only Jeremy Irons in DH3, he's also Jeremy Irons in Dungeons and Dragons. So the monster is really the unleashed red dragons being used as a distraction so that the gold in Wall Street can be stolen. That explains the trajectories: more than one dragon.
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I sincerely hope you're kidding about all this, because if you're not then you are a fucking lunatic. It's in Mori's hands now...I just sent him an e-mail with the contact info for the Mark Gordon Company. Now let me ask you a serious question: What will it take to convince you that this is not Voltron? Will a statement from Mark Gordon's office do the trick? And if not, what will? Because if NOTHING will convince you that this isn't Voltron until the day the fucking movie comes out and isn't Voltron...you are certifiable.
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After what you have posted throughout this talkback, you are clearly just as disturbed as JettL93. Or as young. Either way, go fuck off.
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I just think it's a bad idea. There's a depth present in your analysis that is akin to Matrix Revolutions. Sure, it's a cool fact that Rama Kandra is standing with Sati (sacrifice) between him and Neo (the 6th incarnation) in Mobil Ave station, but if you don't know this while watching the movie, it's something that's lost on you ... and thus the movie is forced to depend on its non-mythological aspects for its appeal. The reason the first Matrix was so well-received was the fact that the Philosophy was surface and pretty much universal. By the time of the 3rd movie, though, it became a mess because it no longer was universal, it was specific and deep. And while I'm not arguing that moviegoers are unable to handle it, the point is there's no time to learn during the course of the movie.
Which is why deep mythology of that sort works best in a TV Show like Lost or Alias. There's plenty of time between eps to expound, declaim, debate, and learn. As a show unfolds its mythology, the audience can embrace its mythology.
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Any one else want to hear some Black Sabbath in the next trailer for this movie?
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The mountains in the background on the home page are a mirror image to each other. Has anyone tried to do an old Mad Magazine fold up on any of the backgrounds?
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It's picked up by Rob ... or someone that looks like Rob. But when we get to the street, Rob isn't holding the camera. So, is the cameraman Rob's brother or something?
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I agree that it is unlikely that the writer would have a film such as I've envisioned leap Minerva-like from his head. But once he decided to incorporate ancient mythos, only a moderate amount of research would be needed to play dot-to-dot with the ideas I've enumerated. (You can play the game yourself - just jump from page to page and read up on Albert Pike, Freemasonry, the Statute of Liberty, Isis, Babylon, the Beast of Revelations, etc.) While I agree that this usually doesn't happen in Hollywood, it can; hence the hype. In the end, the use of potent imagery and "symbols" can lend the project a seriousness it might not otherwise possess, elevating it above standard popcorn-movie fare. Isn't it more likely that the filmmakers would focus their attention on fleshing out plot points and thematic elements rather than the invention of anagrams?
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with the possible link to freemasonry, which actually stated out with good intentions way back when, the possibilty of the great big gate of hell being groaned open and subsequently releasing the fireball and raining brimstone. then 'it' comes out and because there are no impact tremors maybe it's flying and rips the head off the sol and drops it from a height. or maybe its my mother in law. shes pretty mean... and i look a little like lady liberty.
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The possibility was eliminated the second that JJ Abrams' people said this was an original property. Or the second that you saw the producer/writers/studio are different. Or the second someone raised the point that there is going to be a massive marketing push for Voltron because it is going to be an incredibly expensive movie to make and will need to make a shitload of loot to turn a profit...and that marketing campaign would have started six months ago if the movie is coming in January 2008. I am not saying with any kind of certainty that it is Cthulhu. I am, however, saying that it is 100% not Voltron. And you know that, too. The only reason you're still beating this dead horse is because you think it's funny to pretend you're retarded. So I will play along and treat you like a retard. Your "theories" on why this is Voltron, particularly your theories about the "clues" on the Slusho site, are some of the dumbest things I have ever heard my entire life. EVER. And I have heard some pretty dumb shit. You constantly say crap like "I see why so many people could vote for Bush, now...nobody likes to listen to facts..." You fucking imbecile: PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE REASON THAT BUSH IS PRESIDENT. And people like you are the reason that we are in Iraq. YOU are the one who doesn't listen to facts. YOU are the one who predetermines the conclusion of your theory and then makes up shit to support it. You are the one who clings to blind faith in the face of irrefutable evidence that contradicts your belief. You scoff at people on this site who say they are writers, etc., yet you claim to be a detective...and you don't even know the definition of the word "fact". Listen, Sherlock, why don't you detect the fucking meaning in a dictionary and then tell me that what you're preseting are facts. The "fact" that people think of Mexico when they see a donkey? You don't even know it's a donkey! It could be a horse...so what then? The "fact" that the colors on the site are the same as Voltron's colors? Those are PRIMARY COLORS, asshole. A lot of shit has those colors. If they wanted to give a clue about Voltron, why the fuck wouldn't they put a lion on there? Or even a cat with a crown (king of the jungle...eh...eh...)? I might be getting seriously frustrated that a "grown" man can be so God damned obtuse if it wasn't so much fun fucking with you.
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Whoa! My love, my Voltron,
I hunger for French cheese,
Alone. Lonely time.
And time goes by, so slowly,
And time can do so much,
Are you still mine?
I need Voltron.
I need Voltron.
Voltron speed your love to me.
Lonely rivers flow to Mexico, with donkeys,
To the open arms of Voltron.
Lonely fanboys sigh, its the french cheese and Mexican donkeys,
I'll be coming home Voltron, wait for me.
Whoa! My love, my Voltron,
I hunger, hunger!, for cheese,
For donkeys. Voltron time.
And time goes by, so slowly,
And time can do so much,
Are you still mine?
I need Voltron.
I need Voltron.
Voltron speed your love to me.
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Your reference to the Matrix overkill is directly on point. However, I certainly wouldn't expect that many of these symbols and themes would be directly presented in the film ; I just think the filmmakers might understand these connections and appreciate them in a private, inside-joke manner. More importantly, they properly know that, if done right, these are the kinds of elements that lead folks like me to come back to a movie more than once, and even elevate it to "classic" and/or "cult-film" status.Also, regarding the suitability of episodic TV for the exploration of intricate or complex themes, I note that I don't yet believe that the denials that this is not a "Lost" film, or a film set in the "Lost" universe. As I've said, I've never seen an episode of the show, but understand that JJ's apparently got a lot of explaining to do, and Cloverfield may be a good vehicle for such purpose...
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Or, I should say, Yes they should focus on Plot Points, but No they should not focus on Thematic elements. You can put as many layers of mythos and allegory on a story that you want but if you do too much you might lose sight of the core plot -- or you might become so beholden to a thematic element that you deviate from your plot to incorporate it. At that point, things start to fall apart.
Ideally, the thematic elements become interpreted naturally even if they weren't deliberately placed in the movie. Example: Cipher in the Matrix. On the one hand his name is a perfect hacker name. On the other hand, there's a short distance from Cipher to Lucifer. Nice, right? Here's the fun part: we don't know if it was intentional. It could just be a happy accident.But now look at Mobil Ave. The name appears in the background during both main conversations in the station: Sati and Neo and Neo and Rama Kandra. The Wachowskis are practically begging us to interpret it, and of course, it's easily done: Mobil=Limbo. It's OBVIOUS what they're trying to get across. Ditto HEL (I mean, did the Merovingian REALLY have to tell us they have 'gone through hell' to drive home the point?).
To quote the Simpsons: The whole thing smacked of effort. Once you start digging that deep with mythos, and you're forced to point out the allusions, they are no longer interesting; in fact, they start to distract from the movie. What did work in that scene? The fact that they had to climb a staircase to get to the Merovingian after fighting upside-down guys at the entrace. Why? Dante's Inferno: Dante had to climb an upside-down Lucifer to leave Hell and get to Purgatory. But if you didn't know that, it was a bunch of guys fighting upside down for no reason!
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Sorry to hear that your mother-in-law likes to terrorize NYC. Good luck with that.Don't even bother with him General...
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Eh, I'm just bored...there's nothing new of interest on here and I find the guy to be both slightly entertaining AND slightly painful to deal with. I've been pretty convinced for a few days already that the guy's kidding...I wouldn't be so insulting towards him if I really thought he was serious. So fuck his stupid "theories".
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during the party scene when the guy eating sushi makes this comment.
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People hate on MI:3 cause they couldn't look past it's star and see it for what it was. The rescue/helicopter chase at the beginning and the bridge scene are some best directed action sequences I've ever seen! Everyone brings up Armageddon, but give the guy a break, You know that piece of shit was ALL Michael Bay's doing. His Superman script depite flaws in character was also ambitiuos, more epic and action packed than Superman Returns was. J.J. is just a great idea man, he comes up with great concepts (ie. LOST) and has an amazing team of creative people work with and is a geek who loves Star Wars and Star Trek.
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It looks like the camera is dropped around 1:15. At 1:17 someone who looks a lot like Rob picks up the camera. But we don't see the camera passed on to anyone.
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Its Galileo vs the Catholic Church all over again!
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I agree that it's not that hard to connect the dots once you know what to look for but you would have to assume that Abrams and the writer are interested enough in the result to do so, and I propose that what you get instead is more along the lines of National Treasure.
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and looked old and pathetic in doing so. I think Rocky versus Apollo Creed would be a better allusion to shoot for.
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i have as little clue as really everyone else on here. we all have directions that we tend to lean based on probably what we want to see. some "theories" hold more water than others and i dont claim that mine is the definate one. the site is funny at times and sad at others. my comments are retarded most of the time pillow talk. but quite frankly so are 99% of the rhetoric and slamming that goes on. general i saw your web site just now and very cool. and no its not a suck up it was very cool. anyway, i will rethink before i hit the return key on future posts.
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assume that Rob picks it up and gives it back to him!
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I hadnt laughed this hard in ages man. You have my respect.
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Just as MRX67 will look when this is all over. Not sure about old, but certainly pathetic.
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And I've decided to play along and to mess with you. What other reasons do I need? Let's see...not only do I not "care" what you post on here, I'm pretty sure I have encouraged you to post because you are the most entertaining thing about this thread since any real theories have hit a brick wall. And MY "wild ass theories"? You're TOTALLY fucking kidding. My ONLY wild-ass theory is that you are either playing around or are the dumbest person I have ever encountered. "Process of elimination"? Again, you ARE kidding, right? Explain to me again how you used the process of elimination to decipher that the blue oven mitt on the Slusho site is there because Voltron's sword would be too hot to hold without it; explain to me how you eliminated every other possible thing it could represent. And don't worry, I know what the process of elimination means; I use it all the time (see "my ONLY wild-ass theory" above). It looks like you can't even fucking read (or are at least pretending to be illiterate), since I clearly said in one of my last posts, "I am not saying with any kind of certainty that it is Cthulhu." I asked you a simple question before, so if you're so serious, why don't you answer it: What will it take to convince you that this movie isn't Voltron?
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Now I'm confused ... are you saying that MRX67 will be vindicated?
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Billy's is probably the more realistic one. And I tend to agree with ninja that we won't be getting anything too deep from this movie.
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nothing of value to add - I wasn't busting your chops
by just pillow talk
on that one...I found it pretty amusing actually, especially since one of my friends was just venting about his father-in-law.
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Thanks for the kind words, but the actual web-site (www.cosmo-verse.com) IS a piece of shit...but we're working on that. If you think the art, etc., looks cool, I encourage you to follow the links on the web-site (toward the bottom) to the myspace and comicspace pages...there's a lot more stuff on there to look at.
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"I have to admit though, i got you idiots talking about it." And THAT is how I know you're kidding, fucker.
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It's all so confusing. Damn you JJ Abrams! Damn you to hell!
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If you would stop pretending to be illiterate and just play along with the game you started, you would see that in one of my posts above I discuss sending Moriarty an e-mail (already done) with contact info for the producer listed on IMDB as being the guy who's making Voltron. Hopefully we get a statement...and I am 100% sincere when I say I can't wait to see how you bob & weave your way around that one...
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no problem at all. there is so much seriousness in alot of these its confusing to know what is directed where. right now nobody has a clue which direction is up, they just know that the other guys direction isnt up. i agree that some of the 'proof positives' that some people offer are a little thin, which is usually entertaining. usually.
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BTW, I already sited www.hcdonline.com as a source that you can use to verify Mr. Gordon does NOT have any kind of deal with Paramount.
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is all well and good but I gave up on it and joined up with the flying spaghetti monster and the pastafarians
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From all the possible reasons for this "monster" to be.Freemasons, check. Voltron, check. Satan, check and check. Cthulhu, check. Santa Claus, wait a minute, here's an original...As I continue to read all the TBs regarding this, I can't help but wonder if MRX is serious? I'm not going to debate something I don't know, but I don't understand how you could continue to believe that it is Voltron, in fact until I starting reading these TBs I had no idea what/who Voltron was.
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Dude, I think I love you. I am so convinced that you are playing around at this point...and I am not going to lie: I am having a lot of fun going back and forth like this. I DO like the oven mitt connections, but not because I think they're accurate: I think they're funny. You really called Mark Gordon's office? That's fucking AWESOME! Did you get the number out of the Hollywood Creative Directory or what? Anyway...explain to me again what the story in the history section means, and how it relates to Voltron.
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The movie isn't the Blair Witch Project; there is no reason to have the entire thing filmed with a handheld camera. Heck, why pick up the camera when it's dropped? The 'filmmaker' is not going to have the camera going the whole time; it's unrealistic.
So what does that mean. 1 of 2 things: 1, the movie switches from handheld camera to regular film at some point. Considering how much is shown in the trailer, though, this seems unlikely to me (maybe even jarring to the viewer). 2, then, this is being watched by somebody after the fact. So it's a nested scene. Which indicates there will be more.
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count me out. Voltron via camcorder? What's next - He-Man via newsreels?
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via camcorder. Maybe it was reported erroneously.
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Where did I indicate at any point that I was a Creationist?
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insted of voltron its CAPTAIN PLANET
Werent there "6" parts ( well 5 but wehen put together formed one more....
earth , wind, fire, water, and heart
and the heart= the fishes luv of cheese and the ovenmitt= the fire element....
I mean come on...
throwing out a number and than claiming you've factored out all other choices is illogical. i just got all that off the top of my head and am in no way thinking it is gonna be capt planet or voltron related. just mreely showing you there are other options out there that those "truths or facts" as you call them can apply to.
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is it that bad? that people choose to believe certain things about existence(which you spelled wrong, maybe that spelling chromosome wasnt in the primordial slime you developed from)
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the Jeremy Irons DH3/D&D one.
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If you go read the script review over at Latino Review there are several things that are vaguely similar to the trailer including the giant Robeast, NY location and apocalyptic theme.
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whenever possible. :)
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this aint voltron (honestly, no one cares about voltron- not even in like 1986 when it was "popular"), and it aint a standalone flick either. this viral marketing crap (if it does exsist- i'm not entirely convinced; we just may be seeing black dogs in tealeaves here) is set up to generate some serious buzz about something... but a $30m monster flick? i think NOT. this is a cover or- more likely- a smokescreen for another paramount project up-and-coming; the 011808 date is most likely a release date for a proper trailer released on the net, most likely, or attached to another film. hm... any thoughts as to what this paramount property could be? ;)
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...isn't Jesus technically the original zombie?
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Because Michael Bay stole Transformers from him.
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Because Michael Bay got to Transformers first.
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Wasn't that what JJ told Harry? Looks like he's having some fun alright, at the expense of obsessive theorists everywhere.
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Curse this Internets!
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hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Voltron movie? That script over at Latino Review sounds terrible.
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is in the middle of water. So I would think whatever it is would be coming from the water to knock her head of like that.
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joking. I don't think the Cthulhu angle is a crazy theory a lot can be inferred from The Call of Cthulhu, not to mention Abrams has already used Lovecraft references.
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Briefly, because I've already pointed this out in this huge tb: 30 million is PLENTY to shoot a monster flick seen entirely from the perspective of a wannabe survivor and shot in the "camcorder" style of the trailer, particularly with no big name stars/writers/director attached. You could shoot all the live action footage AND market the movie for 10-15 million TOPS, and have 15-20 million left over for effects...which is PLENTY given the shooting style/concept.
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the walking dead, but alive and fully in possession of all of his faculties and then some. :)
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One, I've decided ZS is a Bot. It finds a keyword of some sort 'B ush', 'Cr eationism', 'Eco nomy' (spaces deliberately added to prevent keywords being picked up) and then autoposts from a pregenerated list of rants. It makes perfect sense when you think about it.
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its myspace.com/wellmissyourob. its pretty much a closed private page and Im not too sure if its a fake or not. It says owners name is Jason and it has comments just based on the upcoming party on 1-18-08.
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COM had the same sort of calm before the storm..and them bam...bye-bye cafe. C'mon Zombie, just because someone believes in God, that makes them horrifying? You know what is horrifying? Extremists of any sort who think one side is crazy just because they don't believe in their beliefs.
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Some times a cigar is just a cigar.
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then than demonstrates it can be done. They said 50% of the budget goes to FX.
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a camcorder you can cheat it a bit because the images don't have to be crisp and glossy, they just have to look real enough. It would not require thousands of hours people do this kind of stuff now in commercials all the time. I WISH Abrams had made Transformers. I doubt he would've used that script and story.
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I think a lot of people are sayig 30 million is too low because we're assuming that the film's effects are going to all be cgi...but based on some of the discussions here and elswhere, it looks like there is info out there indicating that Phil Tippett is working on the creature. If that is the case, and this entire movie is going to be shot at night and in the grainy style of the trailer, then who's to say Tippett isn't just using the go-motion process he pioneered for Empire, Jedi, et al.? With a little bit of cgi tweaking, I'm sure that would look great in a film like this...and could be done on the cheap...
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But realized that it would be too over the top since Captain Planet is a hero, and he's going to take polution down to zero. Why would he blow things up? It is not environmentaly friendly, however if Al Gore and Captain Planet fought for the power of being the biggest conservationist, then it maybe possible.
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20-million, but then again, it was shot in Spain doubling for L.A.
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So Voltron is going to be made by mexican child laborers from stolen crap!!!
the lions will be low-riders!!!
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you are a writer?
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...my initial post to Drew on this thread was directed ... really to you... based on your continued attacks on both myself and red ned on the previous thread... ...knowing that Moriarty is an intelligent man, I reasoned he would respond to my post exactly as he did... ...clarifying his position... and supporting my own position which you continually attacked over at the other TB regardless of how plainly I tried to explain it to you... ...have you read Drew's post directed to me? ... he says exactly the same thing I said to you over and over again... and yet you kept attacking me for it... ... now you pretend you said the same thing Mori did... ...it was red ned who explained to me that you were a troll... I had never called you such... however, by your own repeated actions, I must say... if the bridge fits... get under it.
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we are practically neighbors. South Bend. are you eventually going to add a character known as mrx67 to your comic?
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Blair Witch came out in 1999 and cost only 60 THOUSAND. Here are some more recent movies that looked A LOT better and cost under 30 MILLION: Memento/2001/9 million; American Psycho/2000/7 million; Rules of Attraction/2002/4 million; Running Scared/2006/15 million; Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon/2000/17 million; Hostel/2006/4.8 million; Devil's Rejects/2005/7 million...I can keep going with more FACTS if you'd like...
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hats off to you. whats it about....please dont say its about voltron.
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I got my info off of www.boxofficemojo.com
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that hurt
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I think a lot of people are saying 30 million is too low because we're assuming that the film's effects are going to all be cgi...but based on some of the discussions here and elswhere, it looks like there is info out there indicating that Phil Tippett is working on the creature. If that is the case, and this entire movie is going to be shot at night and in the grainy style of the trailer, then who's to say Tippett isn't just using the go-motion process he pioneered for Empire, Jedi, et al.? With a little bit of cgi tweaking, I'm sure that would look great in a film like this...and could be done on the cheap...Finally, ask Lloyd Kaufmann or Roger Corman how far they could stretch 30 million. Or ask any tv producer...like, I don't know, JJ Abrams for example...
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...after having talkbacked for at least a couple of years as Prof.Ikamono, I partook in a stupid prank... ...it was very funny at first... even Harry got a big laugh out of it. ...but we took it too far... I continued with the disruption of AICN, long, long, after it stopped being funny... I was rightfully banned. I humbly returned to the TalkBacks and wrote my name backwards in penance... for six months or so I was Onomaki Forp... I waited until I felt I had earned the right to come back as PROF IKAMONO, using this emphatic form of my original userID to state in effect, that I was NEVER to behave destructively on the threads again... Oh, I might post some silly shit from time to time, but I am sworn never to cause disruption of the function of this website again... So I am amazed at this Antsy person, who was banned by Drew, right before our eyes for continuously lying and accusing Harry and Drew of all sorts of shit... would come back in seconds on this same thread and continue the same bullshit!!! ...what kind of an ass is that? Not even a "Gee, I might have taken that to far..." No the bastard still thinks it's his right to come into Harry and Drew's "house" as it were and start pissing on the furniture! I cannot imagine what motivates people like this... there must be something wrong with their souls...
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You kind of missed my point about the budgets. No, none of those films have the kind of effects this one will have. They also didn't cost 30 million. Take American Psycho, for example. That movie only cost 7 million, was shot on film (which is more time-consuming and thus more expensive than dv), and much of it was shot on location. For 7 million. Which would have left 23 million to show a monster fucking up that city. That's my point.
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because I think that style would work great with a monster movie and of course as other films have done it can add a lot of suspense and terror instead of the big budget glossy disaster films which have none. Plus, these films require your imagination to participate in the movie instead of showing you everything.
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the clues are all there. In the trailer, executive producer is Tim Burton. Helena Bonham Cater is attached to place someone crazy. The roar is the returning monkeys through the time portal. Voltron also co-stars. Mark Whalberg will not be returning. from variety.com.
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If you think him coming back to slag Mori and Harry even further is bad, then you should check out his little blog. The guy has a hateful hard-on for AICN. Not only that, he's apparently taken it upon himself to make his blog your one-stop-shop for all things Cloverfield. I think he's looking for a little internet fame.
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...it that's what we're doing, can I be Daphne ... and go off looking for "clues" with Fred in the back of the Mystery Machine while Shaggy, Scooby, and Velma do all the work? ... Fred has a very big "clue"...
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the people at the party are the new crew of the enterprise. spock is the asian guy. the roar is from a borg invasion, helped, in part, by voltron. Written by Robert Orci and Alex Kurtzman. Score by Michael Giacchino. Boffo box office reciepts expected. No news on the new skien from Abrams however. from variety.com.
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You're careening down a staircase because the building you're in is being hit by flaming debris. Who the Fuck cares about a camera in that situation? I can see the camera dude himself grabbing, but why does Rob go out of his way to do it?
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In what way do i ashame your irish blood?. I dont know you and I have never met you, I am only one person in a country of 4.5 milliion people.
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The first roar sounds like a whale out of water. Remember in Star Trek 4 (!), when they had to put the whale song from the probe into a program to synthesize what it would sound like under water?
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than you realize, but just out of sight?
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they're just trying to get off the rooftop? It makes sense to hand it back to the owner. He turns it off and then when they get to ground level begins recording again.
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and it is being released in 2008 but it is not written by the guy who wrote 1-18-08. The write is a guy called Justin Marks. and this is the plot summary.....
This updated telling of the VOLTRON story follows a team of space explorers who travel to the planet Arus and learn how to operate Voltron, the last hope against the evil Drule Empire that has subjugated Earth and taken control of the universe -
...a few days ago on one of these "cloverfield" TBs I asked Wonka if he knew where you were... ...I said "chrth could figure all this out if anybody could" or something to that effect... glad ya finally showed up... I explored a lot of the stuff e(mund)pevensie has hashed over a long time ago... I think Pike (a large carniverous fish) is a red herring...
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NYC instead of DC?
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...Japanese for blue oven mitt would be "aomito", horse "uma", cheese "chizu" (chizu is also the Japanese for "map"), fish "sakana", duck "ahiru", and balloon "kikkyu"
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I see AICN is still taking credit for breaking news on Cloverfield long after it was broken elsewhere.
That's really pathetic.
Arthur -
The web's premiere investigative journalist returns!!! AntsyChested, do you bring links to prove the truth of your allegations, or are you simply here to continue the unsubstantiated bullshit rants you began two days ago? You, my friend, are the fucking pathetic one. See, in the real world, when you accuse someone of something, particularly a crime, you need to back up your claim with PROOF. As opposed to your world, in which you were one of the cool kids(?!) and we are all a bunch of blind, delusional idiots (a world that's about as real as fucking Narnia and Mongo), where someone can just make shit up and everyone pats them on the back for exposing such heinous corruption. Yeah, welcome back you stupid fucking asshole.
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It's a great little forgotten about TV movie that's out on DVD, and it's completely shot as news casts that continually interfere another movie you're supposedly watching. The news casts are all about how the earth may or may not (you find out at the end) be under alien attack as asteroids start crashing into the planet. It's got a VERY similar feel to it. Really cool stuff. imdb link: http://tinyurl.com/ypxo7y
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posts little gems like this on his blog: "The only thing the AICN crowd has ever broken is a theater seat." Yeah, because he knows all of us, and we're all a bunch of fat fucks. You stupid cocksucker, I'd love the opportunity to laugh in your fucking face in person.
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You do realize the 401 Broadway sign is real right?
http://tinyurl.com/yvkrbw is the same shot as in the trailer except not in the middle of the street and a few meters closer. -
"It would be like watching the UN break down (only the participants would have a deeper appreciation for collectibles)." GOOD SHIT! Seriously, though, I would gladly climb into the ring with a stupid asshole like FlatChestedAntsy...one of my pet peeves is people who hide behind the veil of anonymity provided by the internet and then relentlessly talk shit to people they'll never actually meet.
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Just under two weeks to go. I hope they do it on Saturday as that's when I'll be there.
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I am kind of doing now, but if he did want to fight me I'm sure we could set something up.
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I don't know where MRX67 got all of that info (looks like copy/paste), but if it will be announced at Comic Con, it will most likely be Thursday. JJ will be attending two panels that day.
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Heres the article from the NYPOST posted on the 16th: http://tinyurl.com/2rwkw9
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1-18-08: "The footage is taken the day before everyone dies. A bunch of kids come to Coney Island with a video camera. The movie is a flashback to that day."
Voltron: "Humanity has gone underground. New York has been decimated and our story opens on the eve of the fifth anniversary of the Drule invasion."
So for Cloverfield, the movie is about New York being destroyed. In Voltron New York was destroyed 5 years prior to the movie taking place. The only way to still maintain a connection between this and Voltron would be to say that all this filming is only for the opening sequence.. which I find hard to believe. -
Amen.
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Access Hollywood thing, I mean.
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I can't believe people actually think this is a trailer for fucking Voltron. Words fail me. Idiot children from the future/space piloting cartoon mechanical lions that hook together to form a giant metal man, attacking the Statue of Liberty and killing everyone in NYC, filmed like a Blair Witch horror mockumentary. Sure. Right. Although.... don't let Jon Peters read this... er, rather, don't anyone read this to Jon Peters.
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why I should believe this is a Voltron movie. I mean, seriously, why would Hollywood wan to gamble with weather or not people will see a movie about giant space lions. Transformers was only made because everyone loves a good pointless action film with corny jokes and special effects. And Speilberg wanted it, so it was going to happen regardless.
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Read the quote again. It says the WHOLE movie is a flashback to that day.
Now it might be kind of cool if this was some kind of collaboration where Cloverfield is the prequel to the Voltron movie that will be released later... I don't know much about the industry though so I don't know how plausible this is :). -
more of the unimaginative pseudo-realism approach. All of the lions are made up of scrap metal, the characters are tattooed or too cool for school, etc. It IS set in NYC, though, and there is a giant Robeast which is an alien sentinel of some kind.
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mean in the sense that it was recorded on the day the big event took place in a pseudo-documentary style a la Blair Witch.
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Jul 17, 2007 7:24:10 PM CDT
Why no TB on the upcoming film "The Last Legion"?
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
I didn't even know about it till I saw a story on it on yahoo. That looks pretty damn good and coming out in August.
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where if you are going to make it and not keep the pop and anime influences - what's the point? That's one of the reasons I want to see if the Bros. W pull Speed Racer off. I think you can keep that look and tell a meaningful adventure story as long as you take the characters seriously and don't belittle them or talk down to the audience. It's just changing the window dressing.
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Jul 17, 2007 7:27:13 PM CDT
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Well someone had to do it lol. The discussion that this movie is Voltron is just too funny. I really hope guys don't really believe that lol. -
that it's shot so low budget? Is someone going to be like, "Wow, I can't wait to see that giant robot that I can barely make out between the buildings."
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Well, there was the aftermath of a wedding going on yesterday, so that might be the reason.
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Transformers this way? For instance if Spike had recorded a chapter in his adventure (the first meeting) and was playing it back for someone? The Sector 7 short of Grimlock was done in this style and I thought it worked really well with the classic design influence. It's kind of a neat way to get around the overly slick CGI and be able to tell the story and still have it grounded in realism.
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Statue of Liberty head comes from the South and East (since it hits the right side of the street from our POV). The SoL is further to the west than the entire island of Manhattan, and Broadway at no point until you reach about 77th (mid-Central Park) has an angle that if you drew a line would fall west of the SOL. There is no way that the head of the SoL can come in from that angle naturally where it lands.
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We're looking South down Broadway towards the Woolworth building when the head comes flying in. (in fact, the angle is pretty close to the picture at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Woolworth_building.jpg -- remove spaces, natch)
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All that was covered before and doesn't really reveal anything
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1) The filmmakers screwed up
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"This is gonna be the best night ever." This is more evidence that the movie only takes place over one day (night.) I doubt that line would be at the end of the teaser if it was only depicting the opening sequence...
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If it was thrown, whatever threw it had to have a method to throw it. Could be a hand, maybe a pseudopod, maybe a lion's head used as a hand when joined to a large robot. We're eliminating the impossible here, whatever left ... well, you know.
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I got the same feeling. However, if the trailer is a flashback among many to that date, it's still usable that way. So the main narrative could be 'later' but the bulk of the movie is 1188. Cameron's Titanic is an example of what I'm talking about.
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I don't want any criticism from all the screenwriters in this forum ;)
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By opening sequence I mean something as short as the depiction of the future at the beginning of Terminator 2.
This is the script review from Latino Review: http://tinyurl.com/2dxgwb
MRX67 is saying that all of this Cloverfield stuff is just for the opening sequence of that script... which just doesn't fit.
@MRX67: By the way, the owner of that Coney Island park may have said "alien" but that may have just been his interpretation of being told "monster." No need to take everything from word of mouth as 100% true. -
That'd be Cthulhu's pop, also known as Mr. Yog-Sothoth. Thought we needed a Voltron breather...
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Or it could be an alien that has been on our planet for a very long time, only just recently being awakened.
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I'm surprised you're just now saying this. This is basically what the plot was implied to be this entire time.
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I can't believe he's still going...chrth, did you see above where he went on about "if you knew how to write, etc"I gave up teaching writing after 5 years because of mental giants like this guy.ask him about being a "detective"...he claimed that at first, now he seems to have backed off...lolcrazy guy...I tried to get him to bet me real money, in paypal excrow, $100, that this wasn't voltron. but he ignored it.
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ugly looking typo...
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I just realized, we won't have to wait for the movie to come out to hear MRX67 eat talkback crow. we just have to wait til the next talkback!soon enough, some new info will come out. and you KNOW they'll give it a new article, considering each of the other ones have been over 2000 posts. and I GUARANTEE that they will mention something in the body of the article to the effect of, "people are still talking about Voltron. are you joking? here is a direct quote from ______ saying, etc. etc."and hopefully this will be enough to convince even the most delusional (not naming names) of fans. (MRX67) even if someone has ignored all the rational arguments up til now (MRX67), and agian, I'm not pointing fingers...even if JJ Abrams saying, "This is an original story, NOT based on any previous property." failed to sink into the peabrains (MRX67) of the people still claiming Voltron (MRX67), surely a SECOND quote from the producer of the film saying it has nothing to do with Voltron will convince them. right?god I hope so. if not, what else is there? how many times do you have to smack your head on something before you pay attention and duck?I would expect more from a detective. lol...again, not naming names...
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At the very end of the trailer, rob is running out of the door next to a guy in a white button down shirt. The guy has a light on his back (definitely not a print of any kind) that follows him. Any takers?
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I never said a single word about lovecraft, other than that he was a bigot and a sexist asshole. I never claimed to know anything more than what the trailer showed us, and I wanted to find out more clues so that we could find more websites with more info.I never played the flawed logic speculation game. what you're doing now is called "projecting"...(more specifically it's a "straw man argument") that's were for lack of any logical response to what I wrote, you invent something I didn't say, and attack that.google "straw man argument", you'll understand.France = cheese, horse = Mexico!! VOLTRON!!!
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first off, please look up straw man arguments. it's a useful term to learn, and I would love it if you'd learn it so that you wouldn't keep using them over and over in order to avoid answering real questions, or giving logical answers.again, to be clear, I never said anything about hwo this was a chulthu movie, or lovecraft, or anything. I don't speculate like that, I think it's fun when you actually have some info to go on, but I didn't think we had any. as evidenced by the fac tthat you've gathered a few pebbles and built an imaginary Voltron castle in your head.and by the by...I'd LOVE to have some proof of you being a detective. you must have a website, right? or a phone number?if you're a detective, I'm an accordion.
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Please explain how they would fit all of the info we have now on Cloverfield into the opening for Voltron as seen on Latino Review.
"NY1 reporter Torre, on the other hand, was lucky to get plucked to star in the flick, and shot "a lot" more scenes than the one you see in the trailer." - Why would they need so many scenes of a reporter if the destruction of New York only took place at the beginning? -
Adrian Veidt: yeah, that is weird. Maybe it's just some plaster from the fracas?
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Dude you got some stamina. Still raving about Voltron. Fuck me if im wrong but didnt Voltron take place on the plant Arus?
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Did you even watch the trailer? She's on the tv reporting.
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Why are they the only ones to have any info on Voltron? They wouldn't make it up would they?
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A number of Hypothetical Questions for the TOOL. If this really was about Voltron WhyTF would the studios be keeping it hush hush. Why wouldn't they shout it from the mountain tops so all the nerds can start rejoiceing with you. 2. (not much of question) There is NO way in hell You can make a Voltron movie for 30 million dollars Im sure those Power Ranger movies cost more then 30 mil to make and unless your using that Polychromatic Sin city with no stars and no advertising budget you can not make a Voltron Movie
2. Is it always customary that when there is a highly popular Talkback there is always some Giant Douchebag who says the Dumbest most idiotic things and is hated by most if not all talkbackers? (MRX67 is to Cloverfield as Ganymede2010 is to Transformers.) I know I can't be the first person to ask this. while I've visited this site for years I just started posting in the TB's last year and there always semms to be one in a TB that last longer then 3 days. -
Don't know if it's the same as Latinoreview: http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2711&Itemid=99 (remove spaces as always)
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Here's what I gleaned from it: there's nothing from the review that excludes 1188 from being Voltron. There's nothing in the reviews though that sounds like it's the same movie either. The only point of commonality is the attack on Manhattan. Too tenuous, as Manhattan gets attacked frequently.
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I still have yet to see actual proff of this being Voltron that I can't disprove. Seriously, why do y'all still think this is Voltron? Voltron is a joke now-a-days, jus a lackluster joke from Robot Chicken. And that's all people are going to see in this.
"Hey Carl, you going to see that Voltron movie this weekend?"
"What's Voltron? Some kinda high-tech cell phone thing?"
"Nah, man. Remember those lion robots from Robot Chicken? It's that."
"There's a Robot Chicken movie?! Sweet!!"
That's all that they will see. Prove I'm wrong.
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If you are J.J. Abrams, then tell me who'd you think would win in a fight, Hurley or Harry?I come back to this TB every few hours, and I swear it is like the same thing over, and over...I want some more info on this damnit, and I'm not going to bother digging too deeply into the net for answers, mainly 'cause I'm not smart enough....
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on the fridge on the right side when he sez 'main dude' is a card with the words squak squak. i looked it up and its a mountain telescope site, kinda goofy, but searching for e.t. life. has this been looked at already?
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Nice catch if relevant
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Jul 17, 2007 9:26:13 PM CDT
its right under the stupid pict of the guy with the
by nothing of value to add
goatee who looks like one of the founding members...its a stretch. maybe someone else look. at about 35 sec
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Jul 17, 2007 9:26:16 PM CDT
its right under the stupid pict of the guy with the
by nothing of value to add
goatee who looks like one of the founding members...its a stretch. maybe someone else look. at about 35 sec
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Jul 17, 2007 9:26:18 PM CDT
its right under the stupid pict of the guy with the
by nothing of value to add
goatee who looks like one of the founding members...its a stretch. maybe someone else look. at about 35 sec
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If people haven't been talking about Voltron lately... well... you know what that means... ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT!
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sorry. touchy touch pad.
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What will it take for you to stop believing the volron angle? Im not trying to be a dick either.
It is very clear that you totally disregard any statements made about the movie not being about an existing entity. i;e-The statements about it being an original jj slusho abrams story, that is.
You do not believe these statement hold any water. Correct??
What will it take for you to actually be convinced, short of sitting in a movie theatre and watching the film. Honestly.
Im asking, because i get a strange feeling that even if JJ himself goes to comic con, and denounces all rumors, and spills the beans about what this is,,,, you STILL will not believe HIM. I hope thats not true, but thats the way it seems.
Again, Not trying to be an ass, just throwing this out there.
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Let alone H P lovecraft I thought Call of Cthulu was a videogame a few weeks don't speak on what you dont know youngblood. Like I said before I hope its 200 ft tall Winnie the Pooh 01/18/ official Winnie the pooh day Coincidence I think not.
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I applaud the effort, but we've been down this road with MRX before. hell, I insinuated pretty much the same thing you just asked him, 20 posts up, and he flat out ignored it. then he made up weird nonsense (I'm a lovecraft fan that believed this film was a chulthu flick, when I never said anything about it at all...EVER).basically, talking logic to MRX67 is like trying to teach a dog to use a computer. entertaining at first, especially if you're a little drunk. but ultimately, it gets extremely annoying after a while, and in the end you just give up and realize it was a pointless exercise in the first place.
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lol...
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Obviously MRX67 doesn't believe it's Voltron, or he probably would've tried to give us a decent reason as to why we should even consider Voltron as an option for this.
My opinion?
Several monsters or one really fast one. Possibly Cthulhu-like. Not Voltron.
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Oh well. Maybe next time.
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you ask him specific, clear questions, and he answers with general statements about things he's already said a dozen times. it's a great high school debate tactic, but particularly annoying once you're, you know, not a kid anymore.specific questions deserve specific answers. you gave, what I thought, was a very good specific question for MRX69. I'd love to hear him answer it. of course, I'm still waiting for some proof that he's (wait for it) a detective...lolI said it before. if he's a detective, I'm an accordian.
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... and nothing else, just as I can see that opinion (albeit with the roles switched around) is believed by the rest of us as this being something else and not Voltron. But, as stated earlier, I fail to see how you can make this decision on the information uncovered in this TB. I meerly am curious as to what specific fact caused you to change sides and see this as a Voltron movie.
As a request, I only want to know what it was tha changed your mind, nothing more. Do this, and I shall give you the benefit of the doubt and stop shooting your generalizations down.
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that's all you do anyway.scroll up. munky asked you a specific question, and I think it deserves an answer.it was in reference to JJ Abrams at comic-con.
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...is that a lot of movies have had plots exactly like that. The points you give are:
1.) Manhattan is attacked by an alien.
2.) The alien is huge which destroys NYC in one day.
Well, I can name a few 50's B-movies that you've never heard of that fit that description. "Independance Day" had that premise and I could even argue that "Muppets Take Manhattan" fits that description. I just boggles my mind how you could believe this by only having wo poins of proof. I ask for any further information. I really wan to be convinced of something, because I'm not sure what's going on with this movie anymore.
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...is that a lot of movies have had plots exactly like that. The points you give are:
1.) Manhattan is attacked by an alien.
2.) The alien is huge which destroys NYC in one day.
Well, I can name a few 50's B-movies that you've never heard of that fit that description. "Independance Day" had that premise and I could even argue that "Muppets Take Manhattan" fits that description. I just boggles my mind how you could believe this by only having wo poins of proof. I ask for any further information. I really wan to be convinced of something, because I'm not sure what's going on with this movie anymore.
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Double post. My apologies.
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The SOL's head is pure copper. Don't they know how much copper is worth right now? Who would voluntarily discard it?
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is that, for the most part, they are presented as "facts". Not speculation, or theory as they should be.
Also, he says he will believe the voltron story until someone proves him wrong. I may be mistaken, but Ive seen quite a few people bring, at the very least, a REASONABLE arguement against it, and he just guns it down with jeuvenille responses.
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there is no way you could believe the crap you type lets see JJ has refuted the Voltron how many times in the past week, Its been stated that this is a original IP. I can understand being wrong and sticking to your guns about something you believe But Homey (and I dont call everyone homey so you know I'm really trying to get the point across) You horse has been dead turned to glue and plastered over a Challenger Space shuttle so stop beating it. LET IT THE HELL GO if your not serious then just add the jokes if your serious go to website and get laughed at officially.
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You still haven't told me how all of the known info about Cloverfield would fit into the opening for Voltron. It seems clear that there is way too much content, and too much detail, regarding the destruction of New York to restrict it to a few minutes.
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You're stating that 'I want to figure this thing out, and that's all that matters now.' but at the some time you're working from a conclusion, i.e., that 1188=Voltron. The too are fundamentally incompatible; you won't be able to figure it out as long as you've constrained yourself. When Holmes said 'Eliminate the impossible, and whatever is left, no matter how improbable, is the truth' he didn't mean to determine the improbable first and then discount everything that doesn't mesh with it as impossible.
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They both come out in 98 and both have meteors coming to earth.. they must be the same.
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Olivia Munn.
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JJ: Ok, I got this great film idea.
TR: I'm listening.
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If Voltron is "wrapped in secrecy", how did 2 script reviews pop up on credible sites simultaneously? How much secrecy can you have for a film when the entire plot of it is laid out a year before it's released?
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It would be nice if people would actually discuss the movie realistically, instead of this Voltron nonsense. Voltron was specifically ruled out by Abrams. He has absolutely no reason to state otherwise. It's not like it will be a giant Easter egg if it were Voltron for the 53 people who actually watched that garbage.
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MRX, sometimes my five year old says something really funny or does some funny pratfall and everyone laughs. So he does it again. We laugh again. He does it again. We laugh, but it's a little forced. He does it again. We smile and tell him that was very funny. Eventually I'll tell him something along the line of "Hey big guy, things are funny the first time you do them partly because of the newness and surprise. But the more you do them, especially over and over, the less funny they get." And he understands and we go on to something else. What you're doing here is the equivalent of him doing one of those things until he turned eighteen. I mean it was nearly two days ago I checked in on this and you are still playing the exact same riff. You're a fly in amber that's somehow still buzzing.
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you'll never get out!I've already gone over the logic fallacies in his theories, but he just ignores them.you ask him a specific question, warranting a SPECIFIC answer, and he comes back with, "look, this is how it is..." and gives some general statement. he is fundamentally incapable of asking a specific question, and as such, impossible to speak with coherently.all that's left is to wait until the next AICN article on 1-18-08, and we'll see how deep his denial runs.oh, chrth, do you have the West Wing complete series? it's on HUGE sale on amazon.com right now, and oh lord is it great. think about it: you're up late, with your little one and a bottle. you want to sleep, but you can't. but wait...what's that DVD by the DVD player? oh yeah, it's 140 hours of the best series ever on television! the West Wing is the only proof I have ever found of the existence of God. but it's almost enough to make me believe.
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Voltron was very popular, and was a much better written/animated show than Transformers or Thundercats.
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my bad
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Your reply included the statement "One movie has a script and no cast,and no director while the other has a cast and a director but no full script and is being kept under lock and key". I pose to you this question:
If this was indeed Voltron, would there not have been a full script already prepared a the time of filming instead of the "no full script" that you yourself have suggested?
I believe that movies in the nature of Voltron (giant robots, nostalgia, destruction of NYC, ect.) are practically required a script by the time filming commences (ie. Transformers). However, giving the nature of the "Cloverfield" synopsis we are supplied with (hand-held camera, mass hysteria, destruction of surroundings, ect.) would probably benefit from a 'loose' script, as they would want the actors to play it all out as naturally as possible. the opposite of this notion, I believe, would be considered choreography, which would be used in a giant robot movie. I still have my eyes and ears opened to accept other opinions, and I hope that you do as well.
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No, which is why your statement "basically the same plot" is incorrect.
Wonka: Never got into the West Wing, don't expect I will now. My backlog of shows to watch is excessive (still waiting for Lost to wrap up before I start watching that), and with the Heroes/BSG spawning of more scifi shows, my new show card is starting to fill up. -
you haven't responded to any of the questions.people ask you specific questions, you ignore them, and make a general statement.why are you incapable of answering specific questions? why are you so indignant? if you believe something that 99% of other people believe, you have to have the strength of character to defend it, don't you? if not, what else is left but to give up?oh...ok, I see...
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fuck I am having trouble typing.I love exchanges that go like this:
someone: MRX, here is question XMRX: I will believe it's voltron until someone proves otherwise!someone: right, but my question X pokes a hole in your theory, can you address it?MRX: guys, this is what I believe, can any of you disprove it?someone: we have given you a lot of reasons why your reasoning is flawed, can you please answer one specific question? what about question X?!MRX: that's it, I'm not answering any more questions.fucking ridiculous -
you HAVE to get into the WEst Wing....greatest show ever...I am literally envious of you not having seen a lot of episodes, because now you can buy the complete series, and watch them one by one...truly, sir, you are blessed. yes, the baby is part of it. but this is also a blessed thing. it's like...60/40 for the west wing in the blessing department...
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you're so meta. you're doing what I'm making fun of you for doing, WHILE I'm making fun of you for doing it.I don't know if that's sad or funny.
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(Obsessive-Compulsive, not Orange County, bitch). Calllllm down.
Besides I refuse to watch anything from Sorkin when everyone knows that last good thing he wrote was a Few Good Men.
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Just thought you should know. They are a vanguard for an alien invasion.
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A few hours ago that cocksucker AntsyPantsy/FlatChested made an appearance. THERE'S a truly stupid fuck. MRX67 is only kidding around...that's why he wouldn't bet Wonka. This other asshole is dead serious, and makes his "arguments" the exact sam way.
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Mostly because it's set downtown. I don't know if a scientist could afford that big of an apartment near City Hall.
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So I'm still stuck on trying to find information on what this damn movie is about. I know everyone has stated that the movie has nothing to do with Lost. I've never seen the show, but I looked up info on it. Isn't one of the main plot points the The Valenzetti Equation. This somehow predicts the end of the human race. The "Lost Numbers" also all add up to 108, and have to be entered every 108 minutes. Since everyone is so sure the film and Lost are VERY separate, I think the date may just be another shout out, like Slusho.
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and if you saw my apartment, you wouldn't accuse me of being OCD...lol trust me, the west wing is worth it. and for $170 for the complete series, it's a steal. but I have faith in your taste, and intellect. you'll find your way to the West Wing eventually...
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Batman's a scientist.
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aliens are actually demons, so it could still fit in with the apocalypse theme.
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Hey, you know that picture of the party on 1-18-08.com? The one with the creepy yellow dude? Well, it is just me, or does the shot glass kinda look like some sort of rodent? You know, like a mouse or sumfink.
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someone made a fairly good argument concerning the behemoth, leviathan, and ziz over on a joblo.com blog. And, I was saying before, leviathan is equated to a giant fire beathing whale monster thing.
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He couldn't afford all his wonderful toys. That's why he lives in a mortgage-free drafty relic.
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make a pretty penny, if you know what you're doing.
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"They were not composed altogether of flesh and blood. They had shape...but that shape was not made of matter. When the stars were right, They could plunge from world to world through the sky; but when the stars were wrong, They could not live. But although They no longer lived, They would never really die. They all lay in stone houses in Their great city of R'lyeh, preserved by the spells of mighty Cthulhu for a glorious resurrection when the stars and the earth might once more be ready for them." R'lyeh is underwater incidentally. "...the secret priests would take great Cthulhu from His tomb to revive His subjects and resume His rule of earth....Then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom." If you are going to do a hand cam movie about a disaster and invasion, the plot is already written for you.
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Unless those chicks were escorts or something. All scientists' female friends look like Janeane Garafolo. FACT.
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Point taken. However, I do love Batman (how far away is June again?)...so allow me to retort: He would just buy an entire building.
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"Batman's a scientist" is actually just a quote from The Simpsons (the monorail episode). That's really why I said it.
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Lovecraft excels in ATMOSPHERE. If you're going to do Cthulu, you really ought to set it in the 19th century, pre-WWI at the latest. Modern times won't work right. So speaketh ChrThulu!
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Nice one. Can't believe I missed it.
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R'yleh. In Call of Cthulhu people go to the island which is mysteriously raised out of the ocean where they find artifacts and people start to disappear.
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None of you are scientists.
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artifacts.
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is JJ some Lovecraft cultist or what?
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This is why we believed this to be a Cthulhu movie. And, once again Superninja, you have helped us all out a great deal. *bows deeply*
And if you really want to find the biggest ass in AICN (aside from Harry, that is), look for Gabriel Grey sometime. I saw him once, hated him instantly, and then he disappeared forever. My guess as to his fate? I believe TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION killed him.
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has a few MONEY lines; "I call the big one 'Bitey'" is a personal favorite.
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this TB. Here is one difference between the Abrams film and Voltron. VOLTRON IS GOING TO SUCK GUARANTEED! What would be the point of all this hype and speculation for a movie based on such a mediocre 80's cartoon. Voltron may have had some fans, but it was always D-list at best.
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You suppose he tying his work together for the fanobys? Maybe other site in reference to Lost or Felicity or something are out there? Any ideas?
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relating to 1-18-08, I mean.
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Kerri Russel is the monster. Kerri Vs. Voltron. Yeah.
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Tonight I'm programming myself to dream about the trailer.
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"do you even know who I am?""I believe so...aren't you one of the little rascals?
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may the force be with you..."leonard nimoy: "do you even know who I am?"mayor quimby: "I believe so...aren't you one of the little rascals?"written by Conan O'Brien, that was one of the best Simpsons episodes ever...
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Are Harry And Mori still stealing stories and saying it's their secret source?
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Nimoy: Well, my work here is done
Barney: But you didn't do anything!
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how did I post halfway through without the page refreshing?AICN is haunted sometimes...
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The escalator to nowhere...
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Ok, sorry!
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FlatChested! What's up, you fucker?
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...cause hell, someone had to say it.
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some details jive with the Voltron script review, The Call of Cthulhu seems much stronger. I don't think it has to be Cthulhu, but some influence possibly incl. Toro monster films. Other things from the Slusho site which jive with Cthulhu are the dream which gives Ganu the idea of how to use the secret ingredient, and the secret ingredient being at the bottom of the ocean (R'yleh's location), and the little fish becoming an enormous whale (becoming great like the Old Ones).
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Jack, am I going to have to separate you from Flatchested?
Honestly, kids these days with their pointless hatred and rock 'n roll music...
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someone associated with Rob might know it or Rob might be getting dreams prompting him as well such as going to Japan to work for Slusho.
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He does say, "It's a lion!"
Case closed. With all the references in the trailer to the mysterious noise sounding like an animal, it's just plain obvious that the guy is yelling about a giant lion. Again, I'm not saying it's Voltron, but the guy IS yelling about a lion. Just wanted to go on record. -
Good night and God bless!
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seems rather mysterious but they appear more supernatural in nature. I believe it is already confirmed the explosion is due to an oil tanker - it is sufficent that something coming from the ocean big enough to displace a lot of water could push a tanker inland. I believe the earthquake takes place prior to the explosion. The Statue of Liberty head toss is a completely separate incident. There are two roars, so maybe there are two beasts? But it seems just as easily it could be moving their way and it's the same creature both times.
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lions don't sound like that! Now, giant robotic lions...
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there are three.
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The Voltron thing doesn't bug me it does match a couple of things in the Voltron script. I just think the vibe is too far off when it's clear what that Voltron script is going for (Transformers part deux).
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I wasn't trying to be rude, hope it didn't sound that way...
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I remember someone talking about the red marks on the map nest to the AKM board in the trailer. It looks like a 7. I wonder how many numbers are actually shown in the trailer... And the light ring on the guys shirt may be a 0.
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Now were is Zombie Solutions to ruin our attempts at civility?
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V-O-L-T-R-O-N BITCHES!!!!!
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But lets examine how It hsould or should not be done.
1st all you generate as much Buzz as you positive and negative. You leak pics of Lions every week. You hire a major talent to play in the movie and a Director. The Things you dont do is Make a obscure ambiguous trailer and plant a viral market scheme on the internet. INTERNET NERDS DONT MAKE A BOX OFFICE DRAW LOOK AT S.O.A.P. -
First, I would release the original series in volumes in cute collectible tins that look like the lions, and then, oh wait...
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After Voltron, I hope there is also a GO-BOTS movie and a live action Snorks film to round out the 'crappy 80's cartoons that almost nobody cared about even when they were new' trifecta!
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Bill Murray could voice Voltron!
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Maybe they would get the original Snorks voice actors! Ya know, for the fans...
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Fraggle Rock? Just sayin....
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I always thought it odd that Voltron would make faces while fighting was it just me.
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well, a piece of it anyways. You see, just now, i saw a Direct TV commercial with Sigorney Weaver whoring up the movie ALIENS (the bit with the "mover" fighting the bitch). If you have not seen it yet, you will. SIGHHHHHhhhhhh. I can't believe that it was ever even greenlit (paid for.)
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a movie concept, Transformers, GI Joe and He-Man are better. They have stronger archtypes and conflicts. Thundercats is also a little on the weak side to be a feature film if you ask me.
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from Voltron look beat!
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style. Voltron Could have the potential to be the next star wars With Lotar, Haggar and his Pa. But if they make it all padestrian by putting everyone on earth, and coming up with a "believable" Origin for Voltron then it would suck, (But what the hell do I know I hated Transformers clearly I'm the minority in more ways then one.
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journal entries about how the Smurfs have tormented him and his beloved cat Azrael all of these years, finally ending in his death. With Steve Carrell as Brainy, Chris Rock as Jokey, Will Ferrell as Hefty, Patrick Stewart as Papa, Val Kilmer as Vanity, Tiny Lister as Dreamy, Adam Sandler as Grouchy, and Paul Giamatti as Gargamel.
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Voltron's rear. Voltron got on my nerves and the robot did not really seem like a character to me, just the humans combined and they were all dorks.
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472181/
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It's animated and it's got John Lithgow. Can you say Tanky Smurf?
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Jessica Simpson (although Rebecca Romijn DOES do the blue well... Alba just looks strange as a blonde)
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I like Gatchaman better, except for Jinpei/Keyop/Pee Wee, the Jar Jar Binks/Wonder Twins/Wiley Kit and Kat of his day.
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I hope it ends with Harry from the Henderson's squashing them all as he tromps through the forest... Oooo! Maybe a giant Sasquatch destroys New York? Anyone... anyone? Bueller... Bueller?
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Please confirm or deny that JJ Abrams is a fan of Dane.Cook, the comedian.
Ok so I'm watching a stand up show of this guy Cook and about half way during his routine, he says something that rings a bell. During a joke, he describies how he is going to attempt a B & E (breaking and entering). Yadda Yadda Yadda. He ends the joke by saying him and his buddy need to "Cheese it!" Or "Let's get out of here!" So maybe this can lead to some new discoveries. The fish on slusho is thinking of cheese. Its thinking about getting out. And maybe the horse whos thinking about a oven mitt is the clue for Dane Cook. Who uses a oven mitt? A cook? Dane Cook "cheese" equals get out. I think someone mentioned Mystery Men. Dane Cook was in that movie. Exit Mystery Street? any relations? IDK but maybe its a stupid idea. But its better than all the bickering. Holla Back -
VOLTRON VOLTRON VOLTRON
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4ctMTidy-4
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Direct to Video Smurf
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Flash ahh ahh he will save every one of us.
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"Collect Call of Cthulu" from The Real Ghostbusters... ehm, what?! oh, wait...
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People just like to apoc NYC.
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why?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaHH2TgxRjs
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A bitch?
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with Powerglide I had no Idea he was such a PIMP.
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TONIGHT'S INGREDIENT.........DESTRUCTION!!!!!
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OK , Just checking to see where we are info wise.
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No Identifiable monsters, Nothing but yuppies running for there live pondering about what the hell is going on till one of them kicks the map in the lake?
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Its been officially confirmed that the Ethan Haas websites have absolutely fuck all to do with Abrams' movie. My guess? There aren't going to be any hidden messages, no deep philosophies, no thought provoking mysteries. The only mystery involved in the movie will be what the monster looks like, something which Abrams will probably never reveal, since it is probably a lot scarier to give the effect that the monster is close and is chasing the protagonists, but at the same time leave it to our imagination on what this "thing" looks like (and its also a lot cheaper for the audience to use its imagination). The movie's websites are just a big marketing scam (like the ones for A.I.) and so many people are eating it up. Somewhere, Abrams has a smug smile on his face.
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I think you've pretty much summed up what this movie is going to be like.
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Abrams should wear a T-Shirt that reads "Ethan Haas was right......about Voltron."
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It's not as deep as he says but it is the threadline for the script.
Sources from a special effects shop in SOCAL are building the elements for the "creatures".
Think Stan Winston Studios or Spectral Motion. Two of the primary shops that can handle the workload.
Yes, CREATURES. LARGE and human sized.
They were originally told that they are working on a Television series that will feature the end of the world via MONSTERS. recently, they've all signed NDA's in regards to it being 1-18-08 - the End Time.
The videos retrieved are not of the day before...but MANY WEEKS/MONTHS OR YEARS AFTER. The people who've found these tapes are looking for answers.
It all relates to what epevensie was saying.
Of course there is no RAPTURE or END OF THE WORLD.
There are no Lions, robots or robotic lions.
There are no cthulu's
There are no UFO's
There are no Care Bears.
And there is NO VOLTRON.
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The only people who think it is Voltron have hearing problems thinking the guy in the trailer said, "It's a lion, it's huge!" when he says "It's alive, it's huge!". Clean your ears. I would rather speculate this as the Cameron/Evangalion flick than some nastaglic throw back to some 84' cartoon that eventually evolved into knock offs known as The Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.
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Pharrel is an executive producer as well as mastering the soundtrack for VOLTRON.
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Not a JJ Joint.
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Shove that up your Voltron loving arse......................................
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Harry will send you a six pack of slusho.
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Now that the industry is abuzz...they know there are secrets to tell....
they will not be able to hold their tongues....And info will be leaked... there will be tons of misinformation, as there have been already....there will be important pieces revealed....though you will have to learn what pieces are real and which have been fabricated to throw you off.... The Industry always does this. It's nothing new or nothing that should be new to you. I remember when dareDevil was being filmed and all the rumor heads were abuz with speculation and more than 80% of it was studio created misdirection. Same with the last 2 Spidey films.
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Those close to JJ also know he has an obsession with numerology. Numbers mystery, soduko, etc. He also has a book in his possesion that he's been obsessed with.
A book titled The End of Days: Armageddon and Prophecies of the Return, by Zecharia Sitchin.
He also has tomes of Freemasonry Lore. He enjoyed the ideas of National Treasure so much he offered himself as a consultant on Pt2.
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It was a sweeping facetious remark. Do not take it seriously. I am not ashamed of being half Irish, or half scottish.
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Some joker just posted that he found the trailer online TODAY! He seems so excited in his headline...
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Guess you guys finally relented and admit it's Cthulhu. I WIN!
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I WIN!
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I win again! Or I piss people off... ;)
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It's Jeremy Irons! No one has proven me wrong yet, so I must be right! I WIN!
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Awww yeah, CTHULHU DANCE, baby!C, c, c, cT, t, t, tH, h, h, hU, u, u, uL, l, l, lH, h, h, hU, u, u, uCTHULHU!!!We can dance like CthulhuWe can answer to his callWatch him kick Lady Liberty's headdown the road like a soccer ballSay, we can dance like CthulhuLive it up while the livin's goodCause once he awakens, the world starts shakin'and there goes the neighborhoodSay, we can dance, we can danceGreat Old Ones are in controlWe can dance, we can danceHear them callin' the callWe can dance, we can danceTerror makes you go in a tranceWe can dance, we can danceEverybody's shitting their p-a-a-ntsThe Cthulhu DanceThe Cthulhu DanceThe Cthulhu DanceYeah!CTHULHU DANCE!!!
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The funny thing is that Abrams will answer a few questions that will end most (or all) of the current arguments. In so doing, he will open up tenfold more questions to argue about.
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half the people i talk to think its a godzilla sequel, and have already said the trailer sucked for that reason, and all of us nerds have theorys, but they all gonna be wrong and we'll all be dissapointed
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http://icydk.com/page/2/
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Now I'll be singing that song at work all damn day long.
Hum dee hum humm..Everyone's shitting their pants...
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Chrth, since you've provided no musical accompaniment to your Jeremy Irons theory, I WIN!
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That's right, man. It's the new sensation spreading across the nation. You can almost hear the synthesizers, can't ya? Heh.Now...dance mothafuckas!!!
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I love it. How about a talking heads version: Psycho monster, ques-que ce? Run, run, run away.
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Chairman devistated Tokyo. It all would have to be dubbed.
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you watch that episode Paris Hilton wins him over at the end!
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I was surprised to find he is more into the NWO/Masonic stuff than I realized.
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Ohhhhh!
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http://tinyurl.com/yvzwfp
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My first comments on this were telling all of you how SIMPLE the clues are.
A.Pike was the simplest of them all.
Bracelet to call upon Satan
Devices that call/create/guide Monsters along their paths of destruction.
Now go run with your Numbers... a lot of you were on the mark with some of your findings.
Remember also... Cthulu rides parallel to these theories. So don't rule out that for design.
Cthulu = the Ultimate/Unimaginable Evil
Satan = the Ultimate/Unimaginable Evil
Side note-
Remember the Sammael Beasts from Hellboy?
They were inspired by Cthulu.
Who is creating physical creature fx for this film?
You betchya, it's been alleged it's the same company...
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It's after Midnight
Evil Dragons lurking in the dark
Under the city lights
You're seeing stuff that almost stops your heart
You try to scream
But Jeremy takes the sound before you make it ... yeah
You start to freeze
As the dragonfire fills up the skies
You're paralyzed
Cause this is Clover ... Cloverfield
And Irons can take more than Richman tried to steal
Cause this is Clover ... Cloverfield
Your running for your life as the dragons terrorize the night
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Interesting.
Look in the jar behind her.
Img 163
We know Rob is headed to Japan as a biologist.
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Interesting.
Look in the jar behind her.
Img 163
We know Rob is headed to Japan as a biologist.
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That's an old image, a manipulated image and a faked image that has nothing to do with Cloverfield.
How many times do people have to be told that?
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Alright, I admit it - Jeremy Irons will be dressed in a rubber Cthulhu costume. MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT!
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Abrams is puting out meaningless clues. Don't you get it? he's tricking us into coming up with an idea for him.
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I keep seeing people refer to it, but I'm not sure what it is. And, I didn't get to this TB early enough to see what the fighting was about, by Antsy or something, so could someone tell me what was going on between Mori and this Antsy guy?I'm only able to get on the internet now and again, so I can't be sure what is happening all the time, but I'm sure of two things: 1. Voltron/Cthulhu/Jeremy Irons will be mentioned again... 2. Someone will think Ethan Haas is still a viable clue.
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...chrth mentioned something about Rob being a businessman based on his nice apartment... ...this is probably accurate (although film/television has been notorious in showing nice manhattan apartments owned/rented by people who could never afford them in real life - take the show "friends" for example) ... but, has it been established for sure in the trailer that this IS Rob's apartment? ...wouldn't it seem more likely that the surprise party being held for Rob is at one of his friend's apartments?
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the effects of the Slusho monsters?
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has to be tougher then Silverbolt this guy was supersonic afraid of flying.
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...on slusho.jp there is cute little horse... so cute... like a little toy... ...wouldn't a cut toy horse make a wonderful present? ...but we shouldn't probe too deeply here because (wait for it) NEVER LOOK A GIFT HORSE INNSMOUTHS!!!! ( i am going to spend extra time in purgatory for that one)
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...'cause I already know it's not. I was exited like Harry was until JJ said Ethan Haas was not connected... ...then we all know not Cthulhu... but... I offered out hope that not Cthulhu does not mean not Lovecrafty... ...not direct adaptation lovecrafty... but lovecrafty like Alien was lovecrafty... (not rip-off either, lovecraft encouraged others to riff off his Mythos... it's not stealin' if their giving it away) ...must have rare disagreement with chrth here... lovecraft in modern times would be cool... HPL himself set most of his fiction in what was modern times when he was writing... ...but back to my point, even if lovecraftyness is tenuous at best... i will not be disappointed here... not like some who stake their sanity on voltron.. (that in itself is kind of lovecrafty concept... the staking of sanity i mean...) ... but this whole exploration has led me to discover so many cool things on net... they have nothing to do with this film... but if i hadn't been looking for clues i would not have found them... such as these fun sites... if you do Cthulhu (someone up there said we do do Cthulhu!) then you will love these: www.pinktentacle.com , www.8legged.com , www.tonmo.com , and I knew about the videos on YouTube but I didn't know about the website: callsforcthulhu.blogspot.com all loads of fun... but if you're not interested in Cthuloid "fun", if you take your Old One seriously, <p. way, way, way, TOO seriously then this is for you... a website for a guy who was kicked out/quit the Church of Satan to found the actual Cult of Cthulhu... for real. Wanna worship the big guy? www.cultofcthulhu.net
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especially considering when it happened! I typed out my post... hit "post comment" then find the last sentence CUT OFF!!! ...just like in those Lovecraft stories were the guy is STILL WRITING even as some NAMELESS UNSPEAKABLE EVIL is taking him... and the type just ends... this is how that post was supposed to end: all loads of fun... but if you're not interested in Cthuloid "fun", if you take your Old One seriously, way, way, way, TOO SERIOUSLY... then this sites for you... ...this guy was kicked out/quit the Church of Satan to found the actual Cult of Cthulhu for real... so if you wanna worship the big guy: www.cultofcthulhu.net
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to not market Cthulhu.
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I'm sure someone has already seen it, yeah?
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Akom, the original production company for Transformers also made Attack of the Killer Tomatoes... think about it man, think about it.
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is at least a couple of days old.
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Don't you people want cash?
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i had no idea
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http://tinyurl.com/xnrg
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just seen the trailer, looks like a classic.
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eeeeYOOOOWWWWW! Sweet.
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Cool. I'm sold. I'm in the theater. Drinking my Slurpy and eating red vines. I bet the fx are actually going to look better with the camcorder distortion thing going on. And to think... No Will Smith, how can a movie be made without him? Oh Will, you'll always be my Freshhh Prinz.
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Okay, so the three photos all have different times on them, they can rotate, and if you use tab and click enter they move away from the middle of the screen.
So, if someone has the means, which I don't, can someone center the pictures in the middle of the page so they don't move and orient them to there respective angle according to the angle of the minute hand.
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Not VOLTRON.
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Which is pretty much what this movie will equate to anyway. JJ or whoever wants to give you the old slap and tickle but that didn't work so well with ELI roth or the last few M night movies I think the days of the smoke and mirror Pg-13 suspense movies are over.
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9/11, eh? only one thing to do... call in the hardly boys!! their raging clues will point the way...
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it actually makes the concept more plausible by saing it's never been done before, but we could have a circular argument until roughly the return of christ about it; either it will pimp a new trailer or it won't, and i just can't see this being a brand new project. and general, you bring up some real solid points about budget vs. returns on some of these smaller flicks, but keep in mind that all the films are by lesser-known or newbie directors, wach with some sort of gimmick.
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http://www.inktees.com/cgi-bin/store/cpshop.cgi/media_tshirts/inktees.150597374
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Ok we all know this is not Watchmen, but did that come to anyone's mind at first when seeing this trailer? I mean unidentifiable monster destroying New York, kind of like when the monster is killing people at the end of the comic.
BTW This is most definitely not Voltron. Voltron would not destroy a city and the guy says "alive" not "a lion" in the trailer. -
I know. I'm as shocked as you are, but it's true.
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anything new or are we still breaking down the fabric of human existance
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anything new or are we still breaking down the fabric of human existance
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or should I say, might it be a manarag?
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Got damn you are one persistant dude man it means nothing more then you had the wrong e-mail address thats all. Let the Voltron thing Man DAMN.
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http://tinyurl.com/284mmx
Friend of mine took this in Taiwan a couple of days ago. Seems to fit the style of the trailer and the website. Although the date at the bottom could just be a coincidence. Can anyone figure out what the tagline says (or does anyone know what film this poster IS for?)
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I'll tell you all about it once you get a proper upload that doesn't require me to sign up for anything, thanks.
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Since we're all geeks, we've all watched John Knoll and Rob Coleman at ILM watch with intensity as Lucas creates shots, knowing full well they've got to match the CG work afterward to the camera angles & movements of the principal photography.
Can you just imagine what a nightmare it'll be for a significant effects movie to do that convincingly with a hand-held, guerrilla filmmaking initiatve like this one?
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...dead all over the internet now. Guess we'll have to wait a week for them to pick up again.
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"JJ, I wanted Voltron"
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They will be back soon. They mostly come when there has been an update on slusho. Mostly.
They will rant and flame about Voltron and Cthulhu, not knowing that every moment spent on this movie is killing them slowly. I have tried to tell people to stop. That this sick shit is the ultimate waste of time.I will repeat one last time: THERE IS NO FUCKING MYSTERY TO SOLVE! THIS IS FUCKING POINTLESS VIRAL MARKETING! -
I promise that the August 1st. update will feature conclusive proof of what the monster is.PS. We don't like to refer to Voltron as a monster. After all, he comes to earth to protect his main dude, and the explosion in the trailer that everyone thinks is caused by the monster (Voltron), is just a blown gas pipe.Please stay tuned, fans! New slusho clues will be online soon. I will reveal one already: A lobster thinking of an iPhone.Good luck, and remember, you can't drink just six!
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How many times do you have to be told that?
Are you Voltron wishers REALLY this dense?
Pharrel Williams is the Exect Producer of Voltron - The Movie.
You know.... N.E.R.D. frontman.
Voltron will be a heavily marketed film, not a virally marketed one.
IF this were voltron, there would be images of the Marketing prototypes - like with T-Formers and almost every other TOY COMMERCIAL FILM.
It's not VOLTRON.
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I don't think it's sinking into your thick skulls.
1-18-08
A device is found.
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...that Voltron is really......gay? Goofy and gay? And nobody is really that interested in a Voltron movie? ALSO: Has JJ Abrams EVER expressed any kind of interest in Voltron? Like.....ever?
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JJ has no tie to VOLTRON..................................
VOLTRON has no ties to JJ.......................................
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Weren't you all for "Crudhula", like, two days ago? For shame, man, for shame.
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Involved with Voltron
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472429/
wrote a few "Lifetime" style films, then assisted (was a PA) and NOW has 2 big toy commercial films. Who's he kidding.
Production company is a JJ Abrams TV rival.
Voltron is also Pharrel Williams first gig as a film producer.
Voltron - The MOVIE will suck.
I wouldn't doubt it will be animated.
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now i haven't time to read this TB yet, so this may have already been brought up but here it goes anways...what if this is a voltron movie, i mean i know thats way out there, but wouldn't that be cool. too bad its defenetly not, but still cool to think it is
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Looking for CASH.
They can't get it produced. There is not enough interest for investors or a distributor... Or a director.
It's a silly concept that is hard for a big money studio to back. Especially from a small time production team as listed.
There will be a Transformer's Series before Voltron hits the screen.
Masters of the Universe will Hit the DVD shelves at Best Buy before Voltron is financed fully.
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is the starting day for production of star trek 11, that trailer was just letting us know
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...I'd like to have a friendly discussion with you about Lovecraft... ...you have stated in these and previous threads that HPL was a bigot (also a biggot) this is true, but I don't believe that this invalidates his fiction... I don't believe that because the man was extremely afraid of other races and cultures that his work should be ignored or devalued... ... I am not sure that you believe this also... ...but, you have been somewhat dismissive about his fiction... racism is a very tricky topic to discuss in an objective way... especially with anyone who has been adversly effected by it... which is just about everybody. ... but it is a very complex and subtle thing... very few people... if any... are absolutely free of some form of racism. HPL's views were informed by many different complex issues in his own life... and in the times that he lived. NOT that that excuses them... but it makes it easier to understand what caused him to form his beliefs... He was not racist like some Klansman, looking to annhiliate and destroy those he feared... he would never have advocating lynching for example... he was racist like many people who see some foreign or ethinically different person and feel a vague sense of unease... fear a threat to their own personal safety... the sort who would never attack a black man if they saw him, but would avoid contact with one for fear of being attacked. Again, this is unjustified. To be specific HPL felt that Asians, Arabs, and Jews were cunning and sinister... they knew things, strange mysterious things, and might use that knowledge in dark ways. He also looked condescendingly on blacks as being naive, superstitious and somehow less evolved than white people. In practice however, HPL did not always follow these xenophobic tendencies of his, he fell in love with and married a Jewish woman for example (something a notorious anti-semite, Walt Disney, would never have done) In his writings HPL was most aggresive in negatively portraying his OWN race. You find far more sinister white people than any other... ...HPL was afraid of the lower classes of all ethnic varieties... and he found what we would call "white trash" today to be most sinister... he feared the "degeneration" of hillbillies far worse than the teeming immigrants of New York, whom he also feared. ...but why? HPL was a very well-educated man, he was a rationalist, and a gifted amatuer scientist who kept up on all the new discoveries in science and medicine... he shunned any superstion and religious beliefs... Where did this horror of the "other" come from? I believe I know. When HPL has a very young boy his father who had been a boistrous, outgoing, masculine man died in an insane asylum. The elder Lovecraft had enjoyed the company of whores... who in that time (as now) were largely from the lower classes and minority groups... Lovecraft Senior contacted syphilis from these liasons and went mad. Tertiary syphilis takes many, many years to develope. HPL was aware that his father had contracted this disease long before he himself was conceived. He thus knew that his father had infected his mother... and indeed years later she died a madwoman in that same asylum... HPL knew that he had inherited congenital syphilis... it was only a matter of time until he too would end up in that asylum, a raving lunatic. Now if one takes that bit of information... one sees clearly what compelled Lovecraft to write so often on themes of inherited evil, inescapable doom, and fear of some moral degeneration. He believed the leading evolutionary theorists of his day... and saw with horror "evidence" of society contracting a "social disease" as it were that would lead to chaos and anarchy... he never traveled to England, but romanticised the Victorian ideals of that country to become a sort of "English country gentleman" ...trying to escape from what he feared was his ultimate fate. This also explains why although he dearly loved his wife, he avoided having sexual relations with her... not out of misogyny, but abject fear of infecting her with his "curse"... HPL was not "sexist" as you have stated... he feared sex period. His wife not understanding this, eventually sued him for divorce, which he did not contest. HPL was in fact dominated by women his entire life, raised by first his mother alone, then by a couple of strong, single, aunts... he lionised these women. He avoided even putting women into his fiction, not because he loathed them, but because his aversion to sexual relations made unwilling to even broach the subject. All of this paints a picture of a very complicated and tortured soul... again I do not attempt to justify any xenophobic attitudes expressed by HPL, but I cannot say that his work, which has profoundly influenced the horror genre is of little or no value because of them. Any more than one can dismiss the wonderful films of Walt Disney due to his anti-semitism, or dismiss the OZ books and filmed adaptations based on the fact that L. Frank Baum seriously advocated genocide against Native Americans... Finally Wonka, I can understand fully that regardless of HPL's own paranoid and deluded phobias, that you may simply not like his writings anyway... His variety of horror fiction may simply not be suited to your tastes... ...There's no reason why you HAVE to enjoy them or even read them at all... I simply say that you should not dismiss them out of hand based solely on the fact that Lovecraft was himself a bigot (and biggot).
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You did not send it to the right address you oaf.
AND, IF there are nondisclosure agreements in place, no one.... YEA, NO ONE, with tracability, (REaD... I AM ANONYMOUS HERE) will jeapordize their job so you can toss your stones around.
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And again, it's not Voltron.
But, it's in the game plan to manipulate, provide 411 and disimformation......................
1-18-08
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that's right.
believe it.
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1-18-08
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Has anyone purchased one?
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1-18-08
A device is found. -
May I offer you some advice.
send an email to loic.villepontoux@startrakmusic.com
ask him to foward your Voltron dreams to Pharrell himself. That is the person who knows more than anyone here or anyone associated with CLOVERFIELD. ______________________________________
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Send other VOLTRON questions to wep@wep.com ___________________________
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what does it mean "a device is found"? i dont mean to be an idiot if i missed something in a prior post.
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Wojo called. You still owe him $5.00.
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they find "something".
Remember the story about Albert Pike?
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maybe?
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but I can tell you through hint.
Albert Pike and similar lore are the deep roots of the plotline yet not in the face of the viewer.
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JJ is fascinated by numbers and conspiracy, we know this. it's great fodder for tale telling.
......Imagine it as flint for your fire.
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yeah i see. when is comic-con?
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War is a series of catastrophes which result in victory.
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and loss.. depending on the side
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The George Washington Masonic National Memorial, 101 Callahan Drive, Alexandria, VA 22301
albert pike
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read into it, but don't read toooo deep my friends, that is where most fail.
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1-18-08
A device is found.
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...the only connection I see would be from the Wild Cards novels ... the Shakti Device... but this is not from an established property... so IF JJ read the Wild Cards (pretty big IF, there) ...then MAYBE .... he might have an homage to the Shakti Device... (which summoned Tiamat from the stars) ... and which turned out to be an alien device planted here by "friendly" aliens to summon a horrible threat only they could repel... thus placing earth in their debt... to their financial advantage.
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yeah, ive had a hard time with every theory out there so far. not that they are right or wrong. its too easy to get sucked into seeing what you want or connecting the dots into whatever beast you want to see. one has to step back and get a breath of 'back to the basic' facts and initial clues. the link between pike and this is too strong.
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...I did not mean it so much as a rebuttal to Wonka as I did an appeal to his thoughtful consideration. I do not, as some do, consider Wonka to be a whiney complainer, rather I understand, that Wonka gets flashbacks to a classroom full of unruly students, and the frustrations he had of trying to explain something simple to those who only had thoughts about eating lunch and getting laid... ...come back upon him when he's faced with ... oh say MRX67 for example,... ... this frustration causes him to take it more personally "pissing on his church" is the phrase he used... ...I have no intention of pissing on Will's church nor of "calling him out". His intentions have always been noble and true... he is what he called me. a sweetheart.
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Did JJ find hentai?
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...for no apparent reason! Could this mean it's not a lion, but, ... A BEAR!!!!! godless. killing. machine.
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...went up at 1-18-08.com? fourth pic is way overdue...
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Fire up the ZIG-01!
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i dont mean to bring something this trivial up. but if i remember right people said that pike was a satanist...and a mason? that doesnt make sense. if they are refering to the morals and dogma book that pike wrote i think that his reference to satan may be taken out of context? and i dont mean to make this comparison but much like picking and choosing passages from another book to fit the mood or to show one side or another. has anyone read the dogma book besides the quote that is thrown out there with regard to satan? im not a mason nor a pike supporter but i think maybe there is as much importance with regard to these clues as there is in an underwater creature dreaming of an ovenmit or wedge of cheese
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I's a Bear holding a shark!
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keeping the thread alive!
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I love teh internets, and I love this site, but sometimes I really miss the days when a friend would come up to you with that awed look of excitement and then ramble on for a couple minutes about a new movie they just saw, or maybe ask, "Did you SEE the trailer for.....?!" I'm just excited that JJ/Bad Robot are making a movie that could turn out to be something really cool and interesting. So thanks for the words Mori, they're some good ones. To you, though, I'd say - fuck em! Don't let em get to you man. The long time, core AICN readers understood exactly what you meant, and why you said it.
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It's been more than an hour sense anybody posted. It's dying!
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give it 20cc of slusho and start a voltron drip.
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another pict or major announcement, im gonna dig out an antidepressant for myself. i miss the threats and the name calling and the 'e-fights'.
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Not about this movie.Imagine (this is the idea) what the world would be like if human beings could bend their legs both ways... What would chairs be like, what car be like, what kind of weird sex would be possible?Other than that, I think I'm going to start drinking, and I think everyone else should, including children.
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sorry it's taken a while to respond. I'm working on editing a project with a women so beautiful that I can barely speak when I'm around her. and then when she speaks, I wish she was similarly stricken. (dum da dum dum)anyway, I do think context is important, but the door swings both ways. lovecraft was writing at the beginning of the 20th century, not the 18th. this was a time where workers were uniting, people were daring to make meaningful works of art that challenged societal norms. writers were daring to write about communism, right around the time lovecraft was writing his first important works, an amendment was added to the constitution allowing women the right to vote. BIG THINGS WERE GOING ON. it's not fair to simply say that Lovecraft was a bigot and move on. but it's even more unfair to allow him his prejudices simply because they were more common back then.his stories are full of VICIOUS racist stereotypes, he has a horrendous attitude towards women, his description of Jews (when he married a jewish woman, it was with the understanding that she adopt an anglo-saxon identity)...it's more than just an unfortunate circumstance of his era, it's singularly appalling. when you read works by authors of the same period that devoted their lives and work to challenging these stereotypes, it's a bit disingenuous to grant Lovecraft a free pass.but most importantly, Lovecraft's work does not exist in spite of his racism, it exists BECAUSE of it. his xenophobia, his fear and hatred of all things not smart, polite, white and christian...informed everything he ever wrote. Bruce Lord, a Lovecraft expert, wrote, "H.P. Lovecraft's racism, [...] is slowly being understood to be not merely an embarrassing personal failing, or the product of a conservative New England upbringing at the turn of the twentieth century. Early apologists viewed Lovecraft's racism as an unimportant element that occasionally surfaced in the background of his literature; today it is viewed as a key element in understanding Lovecraft's fiction and the nature of the world he created with it."he goes on to say: "Lovecraft's racism is blunt, ugly, and unavoidable. One of the most accurate criticisms that has been made of Lovecraft is that he was far too willing to assume a position of informed authority on subjects he had some minor knowledge of via reading or second-hand learning, but no lived experience. I feel that this is how Lovecraft's racism can best be understood: as the ignorant blustering of a person who had few to no encounters with the races he claimed to despise, and was willing to inherit and emulate the prejudices of the culture he grew out of and sought to keep alive through his own affectations."does the following sound like a petty little semi-racist writer? he wrote that minorities in cities wanted to "tear down the laws and virtues that our fathers had exalted; to stamp out the soul of the old America - the soul that was bequeathed through a thousand and a half years of Anglo-Saxon freedom, justice and moderation...[in which] many millions of brainless, besotted beasts would stretch forth their noisome talons from the slums of a thousand cities, burning, slaying, and destroying till the land of our fathers should be no more." (Dagon, 347)this is a delusional, paranoid uber-racist. it taints his work, for me, to the point that I can't enjoy its many admittedly admirable qualities.I'd still see a Cthulhu movie though...I'm a sucker for sea monsters...get it? 'sucker'?
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not to start this up again, but someone above claimed they "googled" him, and discovered he actually was a private detective...lol, rightanyway, I googled him, and I swear to god, this is one of the first things that came up...the best part is, I'm not even joking at all...
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yes, thanks for the clarification, but I Wasn't really under the assumption that you had found anything. because the kid is probably not out of high school, and certainly nto a PI.as for Mountains of Madness...read it again. and think about colonialism, think about eugenics, native americans, etc. it's an apology for white imperialism and superiority.even in the introduction to a new edition, by China Mieville, they discuss his racism and classism.it ain't always, "niggers shouldn't read!", sometimes it's a lot more subtle than that.
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Thats the idea I most like, hes going to Japan, there might be other Slusho employees at the party, the monster throws the head of the statue at him. Strangely, he picks the camera when running off the stairs. And after everyone looks at the window, HE LOOKS DEAD WORRIED!
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I kinda get where you are coming from, but honestly, most artist are either self-loathing, suicidal, or nice people, take your' pick, but their personal lives rarely taint their works (except maybe Charles Manson, his music sucks).I think Lovecrafts psyche was, of course, based on rascism and [word for loving the English too much, even more so than fellow country men], and that sorta touches upon a seemingly universal concept of humanity, that being "Us versus Them".I'm not going to be an apologist for Lovecrafts ignorance, but I will say that his use of the english language (American style) is, perhaps (in my opinion), one of if not the best, works of horror to date.I am a bit biased, simply because I have always found short fiction to be superior in the horror genre than the novel, simply because the most horrifying times in life, usually are brief, think of a bad car accident or rape.... Now, imagine that drawn out for three-hundred pages, as opposed to thirty or fifty. I'm not saying you don't have a point, but I'll be damned if Lovecraft isn't one of the best horror writers ever.
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I kinda get where you are coming from, but honestly, most artist are either self-loathing, suicidal, or nice people, take your' pick, but their personal lives rarely taint their works (except maybe Charles Manson, his music sucks).I think Lovecrafts psyche was, of course, based on rascism and [word for loving the English too much, even more so than fellow country men], and that sorta touches upon a seemingly universal concept of humanity, that being "Us versus Them".I'm not going to be an apologist for Lovecrafts ignorance, but I will say that his use of the english language (American style) is, perhaps (in my opinion), one of if not the best, works of horror to date.I am a bit biased, simply because I have always found short fiction to be superior in the horror genre than the novel, simply because the most horrifying times in life, usually are brief, think of a bad car accident or rape.... Now, imagine that drawn out for three-hundred pages, as opposed to thirty or fifty. I'm not saying you don't have a point, but I'll be damned if Lovecraft isn't one of the best horror writers ever.
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I tried to post something earlier and it didn't go thru, and I double clicked that one and it went twice.... achliebe.
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well that confirms the title then doesn't it?
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Apperently people had some trouble opening the last link. This should be easier:
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this is a common quote.
relative to, again ... guess who.__________________YUP, ___________________
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The letter "R" is the 18th letter of the English alphabet, and 18 is critically important to the occultist because it is 6+6+6. And, also remember the importance of the Number 8 in Occultic Numerology, for it carries the meaning of "New Beginnings"
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It is pretty obvious it points to Lost more than anything else being aborted in this TB. Rewatching the season 1 pilot episode really felt like something from that trailer. The other clues were Cluthulu being the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet, Voltron has a bomb in his ribcage, with Hulk Hogan as the baddie. I'll be back here on 1/18 to say I told ya so.
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That poster is fake. The Eye 2 is a couple of years old and the last one is One Missed Call by Takashi Miike. Also a few years old. The 2 is photoshoped on the Hellboy poster which came out the same year as Eye 2 and One Missed Call.
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there was a photo posted that was called a fake showing something (looked like an angel or demon) by a building in the distance. how was it determined to be a fake?
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For showing some of these people that we can have a rational, polite conversation, taking opposing sides at times, without resorting to name-calling, or even debate. Your points are all quite valid, and I see now that you were not dismissing Lovecraft's work at all. Racism should not, and must not ever be dismissed. Lovecraft was indeed paranoid and delusional, he was the sort of man who thought it was cute and amusing to name his beloved black cat "Niggerman", and would be honestly startled if not shocked to find out that people would be offended. Although HPL was spared the ghastly fate that befell his parents... thanks to dying of cancer at a young age... I cannot help but wonder if insipient dementia did not fuel some of his racist attitudes... it certainly would not have alleviated them! I must ask the question however, if HPL had not lost his parents to syphilis... if he himself had not been "tainted" by it... if he had never developed these rascist beliefs... would he still have created these horrorific masterpieces of paranoia? Would he have set the foundation for generations of other writers (most of whom are by no means rascist) to build their own vast structures of imagination upon? We cannot know. And even if a healthy, sane, unbiased HPL would only have written about cute fluffy bunnies, we can never justify his vile and inhuman beliefs. That being said the Mythos concepts themselves are still open to adaptation by more enlightened creators... Hey Will, here's a thought... maybe after you've become a famous,well-established director with huge budgets to play with... maybe YOU can make that kick-ass Cthulhu movie we all want to see? (PS - I laughed so hard I think I tore something when I saw what "MRX69" really signifies...)
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...but before he himself corrects you, I thought I should point out that although you were off by two, searching for MRX67 on the same page you linked to results in a gene for the same human condition. Just number 67 on the X chromosome, rather than number 69... so it's still funny, and still so appropriate. 69 eh? you must still be thinking about that woman on the editing project!
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Because the photo was an obvious fake to begin with and it had a picture of a toy in the background. You can look for my answer about this photo in one of the gazillion comments on the JJ Talks to Harry article.
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When Eli Roth was on Howard Stern recently he mentioned he wanted to a whole bucket full of really cool trailers for movies that don't actually exist. One of them could even be the 'Fartman' movie which Howard thought would be a great idea. Could J.J have maybe beaten Eli to the punch and be oulling off one of the greatest hoaxes of modern movie-lore.
He knows what people want and what gets people salivating. Tease your audience and generate this hysteria while you sit back and smile. Just look at the arguing and mystery a show like Lost has created. It couldn't of been as simple as 'plane crashes- passengers survive and then find other people on remote island. it had to be wrapped in suspense and intrigue . How did it crash, who are these people, is it all a dream or an experiment et.. Ok, you may think, but this would cost a fortune to pull off, but consider this. Your rich, you love movies you love the shear thrill of the buzz it would create. Could this maybe all down to rich boys playing with big toys for their own amusement ? Tine will tell - I hope not, but something inside me is smiling and hoping we are all part of some elaborate world wide hoax :) -
In addition to theparasitemovie.com, there is thecloverfieldmovie.com, which sends you to paramount. That being said, I think the fact that the Parasite and Cloverfield have been used as code names in the past mean nothing as to the content of the movie. Theparasitemovie.com gives the trailer, and I am sure Paramount wants it out there somehow. Also, if you put "The Parasite" and "Cloverfield" together, you can make the anagram "HP Lovecraft", and some leftover letters which I have not tried to figure out ..."TASIRIELD". The name part maybe a coincidence, and frankly I am going to leave those remaining letters to someone else to figure out. (In case it is just coincidence.)
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I see his writing as a glimpse into this countries racial past. Racism was public and an accepted norm in ones personal life, business and government. Today racism is not as publicly accepted and there are laws preventing it in the office and government. But it still exists. It remains hidden behind the wall of political correctness. Because in private moments or when in a group of friends it all comes out. Today's authors do not use the level of racial descriptions in their writing unless trying to convey a specific message. But that does not mean the writer is not racist. We knew with Lovecraft, but today's authors its an unknown.
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...this TB has been lifted out of the archives and now sits up in the "top stories" ... ...could somebody be aware of an imminent update?
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As I said in the other TB, theparasitemovie.com is just a fan site, registered through Go Daddy!, and simply has the Apple trailer embedded in it. Thecloverfieldmovie.com, however, was created in February by an anonymous registration service and may very well be related to Paramount, seeing as how it does re-direct you there. And good work on the anagram there...I hope it points someone in the right direction. I can't figure it out....
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thanks. just trying to tie off loose ends. its hard to tell whats what through all the posts and theories
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...there's not much to talk about on-topic that has not been rehashed many times on these TBs (although Dietrich intrigues me) ... therefore to continue... ... Upon re-reading your thoughtful post, I found one point that I must take some exception with... I refer to where you said "...his (Locecraft's) fear and hatred of all things not smart, polite, white, and christian..." It is this last thing listed, "christian" which I feel is a misreading. Lovecraft may have been raised in a christian household, but he rejected the christian faith, as well as all religious belief, and lived all of his adult life as an athiest. One can indeed read his Mythos as a blasphemous parody of christian belief, Azathoth the Blind Idiot God as the Father, Nyarlathotep as Son, and Yog-Sothoth as Holy Ghost. Misanthropic and bitter HPL did not see a coming triumph of Good over Evil... but rather the slow inevitable decay of civilisation into barbaric anarchy. I would substitute "anglo-saxon" for both white and christian in your commentary for a more accurate portrayal of Lovecraft's paranoid, delusional, racist, and dystopian world-view. I fully understand and appreciate your inability to enjoy HPL's fiction, and I do not ask you to change your mind about it at all. In a previous TalkBack you compared HPL to Mel Gibson, and the point was well taken by me... although I have enjoyed his performances in some films, his work as a filmaker largely leaves me cold... I found The Passion of the Christ to be tedious, over-long and unnecessary in light of the many superior versions of the Christ story already filmed. I wonder what motivated him to portray Satan as sexually ambiguous figure? He chose not to include any unfallen angels that appear in the Gospels. (Gabriel, for example) If he had, and had portrayed them as androgynous beings, then there would be no suggestion that, well, gay=evil. I am not Jewish, (Surprise! BSB and ImpulseCaper!) so I went to see it with an Orthodox Jewish friend to get his perspective on it. He was highly offended. Gibson obviously spent little time looking into Jewish tradition when he had the Sanhedrin show up at Calvary to gloat, they were priests, Kohin, and thus forbidden to go anywhere near a place of execution. Braveheart is considered to be a truly great film, and it is indeed a masterpiece of cinema, but I have never been able to enjoy it. Sitting in a theatre surrounded by young rowdy men, I felt actual fear when King Longshanks threw his son's lover out the window... The crowd cheered and applauded this with shouts of "Yeah! Kill the faggot" I was very glad at that point that I'm not a particularly obvious gay man, but still was nervous that I might trigger the gaydar of some homophobic asshole who might feel inspired by this scene to do a little bashing. The notion that Edward II could not have been his son's father was also, to me, a most foul bit of homophobic revisionism. I apologise for the digression, but I wanted to make clear that I respect your views.
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... I don't think I want to be embraced by you...
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Hell, even I'm done with the Cthulhu stuff...
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You say Voltron, I say no.
You say "a lion" and I say hell no no, oh hell no.
You say Voltron and I say hell no
Hell no hell no
I don't know why you say Voltron, I say hell no
Hell no hell no
I don't know why you say Voltron, I say hell no.
I say why, you say Mexico.
You say France and I say what the hell, oh hell no.
You say Voltron and I say hell no
(Hell no Voltron Hell no Voltron) hell no hell no
(Hell no Voltron) I don't know why you say Voltron, I say hell no
(Hell no Voltron Hell no Voltron) hell no hell no
(Hell no Voltron) I don't know why you say Voltron
(Hell no Voltron) I say hell no.
Why why why why why why do you say Voltron Voltron, oh hell no?
You say Voltron and I say hell no
Hell no hell no
I don't know why you say Voltron, I say hell no
Hell no hell no
I don't know why you say Voltron, I say hell no.
You say Cheese (Is "France") I say hell no (but I may mean fuck no.)
You say Donkeys (Is "Mexico") and I say hell no no (till it's time to go fuck no), oh no.
You say Voltron and I say hell no
Hell no hell no
I don't know why you say Voltron, I say hell no
Hell no hell no
I don't know why you say Voltron, I say hell no
Hell no hell no
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...is give cheese a chance!
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... not even if you were MRX69 after all!
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thats not the pict i was talking about. i need to find the website that shows this thing and post it. its a daylight shot and this thing is flying way off in the distance by a building with a news camera crew in the foreground and you can make out the 'sho' from slusho on a billboard.
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Remember when we first met John McClane | Argyle picked him up from the plane
And took him down to Nakatomi tower | To meet with Holly
He came to get her back and to be her man | But Hans and his buddies fucked up the plan
And that's about when everything went sour | At the christmas party
And the terrorists where over-zealous | but they were sweet when they killed Ellis
And with a little help from Allen
John McClane kicked ass(C)Guyznite -
icydk.com/2007/07/17/more-1-18-08-info/
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Slusho is actually an alien parasitic species. That's why people working on the film call it The Parasite. There's something in the Slusho that alters your DNA and turns you into a monster. The first monster, Queen of the Monsters, comes from underground after undergoing her metamorphis, right through the Statue of Liberty. The big fireball and roar is her emergence. Her roar will start a chain reaction where all of the other peole who drank enough Slusho will become monsters too.
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What if it's a remake/reimagining/cribbing someone else's work of that korean flick from a while back. And the name was The Parasite..... Just saying
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An anagram of "the parasite" and "cloverfield" is "HP Lovecraft derails it." Just so you know.
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with that said, you must stop digging so deep into the what if's and re-witness the truth.
all of this has happened before and will happen again. The popular phrase - related to both Pike and genetics research.
Take the how you may.
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the mouth of madness.
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"It" being Voltron, of course. This could turn in to an "aristocrat" joke. Albert Pike gives Cthulhu a rim job while Voltron fists godzilla.
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They just released some big news!
"The movie will be about a boy and his pet lion" - JJ Abrams.
I can't be 100% this is correct, but I've read it on several forums and IRC channels where people in the know hang out.Apparently the movie start with the kid with his new video camera going to the zoo and tapes a lion drinking some milkshake type of drink some kid throws into the cage ("slusho", the drink was called). The lion becomes huge and befriends the boy, just in time to stop an alien attack on NYC.So it seems like no Lovecraft/Chtulhu... Too bad... :( -
are not JJ's style. NUMBER's are however.
Pike lore and genetics both involve numbers. but don't dig too deep or you'll go mad.
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damn. all this work trying to hide the lion.
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the concept of boy and pet lion sounds lame as hell. where did you get your info from?
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Personally I think it will be more the "E.T." or "Iron Giant" type friendship, not just a "pet".And as I said, this information is just starting to show up on forums and IRC channels where you have to be a trusted member to join. Wait a couple of days, and this information will be available to the public. We can discuss it then.
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I was just giving my opinion. I just dont know if a movie like "ET" or "Iron Giant" would have such a dramatic trailer like 1-18-08 with major destruction and chaos. Its just my thought on this unsolved mystery that has caused me to have insomnia everynight trying to figure out what it is.
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a fourth picture just got posted on 1-18-08!!!!!
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NEW PIC
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I think it's crystal clear that these pics are just meant to show us glimpses of the progresion of events during the night. not to be over analyzes for clues and demons in hair, or for people to search for numbers in the letters, or evil asian gimps...when this site FIRST came out, I told about a billboard promotion for Back to the Future 3, where each week, the billboard was changed to show a little more. until finally, it showed the dolorean, and the back to the future logo.well, kiddos. all your ridiculous numerology and anagrams aside. it's looking closer and closer to Wonka's original hypothesis coming true..just a progression of events. please do not read too much into this new pic. it's perfectly obvious what it is.countdown until someone overanalyzes the pic...10...9...8....
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is not a clue.
just a tease.
a photo album of nonevents with the main event.
don't dig too deep.
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anyone find it weird that you can't zoom in on the pictures anymore?
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But Pandoras box has already been opened.
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This movie is about Albert Pikes "third prediction."
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4
Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.
That will finally bring about the new world order.
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the pictures still move when you stack them on top of each other i don't think its a glitch in the program.
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that's an ineresting political theory, based on predictions by an unstable, confederate soldier and member of the KKK.you're not suggesting it has anything to do with JJ's monster movie, though....right? please say no...
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you're digging too deep there.
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Pike mythos and Pike writings are 2 seperate tales. Remind yourself of this when you start interwebbing PIKE. Follow the correct path.
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and remember, this film is shot in multiple locations. imagine that...we are only privy to the NY scene. WHY? because americans are still sympathetic to NY. Anything horrorific involving NY makes more impact than... Los Angeles or even Washington Dc. Don't think too hard humans.
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in the wrong train. 1-18-08 A device is found. Are you looking?
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please give that stuff a rest, OK? stop trying to type your made-up tagline so much that it gets involved in this already convoluted mess.and we DON'T know that this was shot in multiple locations, and even if so, we certainly don't know that it takes PLACE in mutiple locations. (they didn't shoot Apollo 13 in space, after all).just calm down, take a deep breath, and jump off the crazy train...
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You pretend to know, but you don't.
Did you find the device?
I KNOW it was shot in multiple locations. Without publishing a call sheet...you, even you, can find the multiple locations.
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with wonka i think we are digging WAY to deep into this.
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...from the Morals and Dogma of Albert Pike: The Lion (Leo) is the DEVICE of Judah; and Jacob compares him to that animal,
whose constellation in the Heavens is the domicile of the Sun; the Lion of the
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I'm sure this sophisticated markting campaign relies on a yahoo in an AICN talkback distributing a catch phrase that is not found anywhere else on the internet.have fun, kiddo...
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...will we get clear through to China?
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why dont you tell us?
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I don't know. All I know is that Albert Pike was one of the clues, and this is the one of the few pieces of information about him that stands out. I'm pretty sure that his writing s were actually falsified by someone trying to slander the Freemasons and the Catholic Church.
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you were right about the chrstian/anglo saxon thing. I jsut don't distinguish between them very much, lol.I didn't know Lovecraft was an atheist, to be honest. I see a lot of christian parallels in his writing, so I just assumed. but you know what happens when you do that.at any rate, I'm excited about another ride on the rollercoaster...someone: if you flip the picture, you can see that there's a-Wonka: nosomeone else: the soldier seems to have 6 fingers. there are 6 letters in the word slusho, and if we-Wonka: noMRX67: the soldier is wearing jungle camouflage, which comes from a French word...france? paris? dare I say Voltr-Wonka: noMRX67: sorry, I'm genetically handicapped, please note: http://tinyurl.com/ytp7p3someone else: did that guy actually name himself after a gene for mental retardation?Wonka: yes
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show me a link that shows Albert Pike was one of the clues. all I remember was that someone with that name (not exactly uncommon) wrote some part of the code for one of the sites people were going nuts about. hell, it might have even been one of the Ethan Haas sites...and then someone googled the name and found out he was a freemason (he was also a confederate soldier, and later, a reported member of the KKK).what he has to do with a huge monster, I don't quite follow.we have legitimate clues, let's stick with the movie, the trailer, the sites, the pictures, ok?I don't think this is a movie about a gigantic freemason attacking Manhattan.
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So basically you are saying that you know something, so that when it finally released to the public you can say - 'Yeah that's what I knew all along!'. Is that what's happening here?
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its not about a giant f---en lion
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Looks like Count Tyrone Rugen is back!
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People jumped on the Albert Pike thing when someone Whois'd the 1-18-08 site. That name, along with Henry Kelvin shows up. It's an interesting possibility I guess, but how many people know about looking at source codes and searching domain info? I've been watching these threads, but I just don't think there's anything to solve here, folks. Noone ever said this was a puzzle. Abrams only said we hadn't found all the websites yet. No ANSWER has been promised.
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the times how could the military respond so quick unless they were ready for an a attack or something that went outta contronl
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It's most likely a clue. The fact that it has his address listed as 101 Callahan Dr, right outside the George Washington National Masonic Monument, is enough for me. Too be quite honest, I don't really care if has anything to do with Albert Pike or not. If I'm wrong, fine, I'll eat crow.
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is on the site http://www.jasonwindsor.c om/blog/. Check out part 17 and the comments pinksoda makes about the 3 monsters from Jewish mythology.
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I'm just going to throw this out there. While most of you have been arguing about Voltron, the music on the slusho.jp site has changed twice. It keeps getting a little bit more complicated. That is all.
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"An anagram of "the parasite" and "cloverfield" is "HP Lovecraft derails it." Just so you know."
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...there can be no argument about a soldier with a rifle. The black? person the soldier is looking at... man? woman? drag queen? pimp? I can't quite figure him/her out.
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if that's all true, don't you think it's more likely that a funny computer programmer knew this thing would become a huge internet geek phenomenon, and put in a little joke in the code? just in case someone nerdy and curious enough to search the code of the website would find it, and it might spread?you can't honestly think that a marketing campaign, even one as sophisticated as this one, would rely on someone being able to dig into the code of a website? how many people actually know what the "whois" thing actually is? hardly any.it's nothing, trust me. no one in the target age range for a flick like this (mostly male 18-35) knows what the hell the freemasons are anyway. why base anything on their mythology? PLUS, there are no monsters in there! and we know there's a fucking monster! it's alive, it's huge, and it's coming. it might be an alien, a mutation, a god, who knows. but it's big, and smashing shit. freemasons don't do that.
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So it's another sequel in the "Scary Movie, Epic Movie, Date Movie" franchise then?
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The chosen one...The music hasn't changed.
Wonka, who are they marketing this egg hunt for? It's not the 40 year old guy who brought his two kids in to see Transformers. He's too busy cheating on his wife to give a shit. They marketed this viral egg hunt for geeks, geeks like the ones who read AICN daily.
Maybe it was some nerdy programmer who put that in the source, but I doubt it. If it's true that JJ Abrams is into conspiracy theories, why shouldn't I belive it has anything to do with the movie.
I'm not saying that there is no monster, there's obviously something big and mean in the trailer. But how do you know that it doesn't tie into Albert Pike somehow?
You don't. The truth is, you know as much and as little as anyone else. And the fact is, there are some clues on some websites somewhere on the internet. We all know of two for sure, 1-18-08.com and Slusho.jp. Why should I not think that Albert Pike is a clue? -
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Actually yes it has. It is very subtle. Note going a third up here, little different syncopated rhythm.
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No, it has not. Tell me what note is "going up a third." Because if you can say that you ear was able to recoginize a particular note moving a third, you can tell me what note it was, right? Oh, also, tell me what key the song is in.
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You wanted to know why you SHOULDN'T use Albert Pike as a clue?
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I didn't know that. You've proven me wrong.
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There's absolutely no difference between the music now and the soundloop that I extracted from the .swf at slusho.jp about a week ago.
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Nope. You gave me facts, and I ate crow, nothing wrong with that.
Chosen, what's C? Was it a Major or a Minor third?
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Do you have an extraction from when the Slusho site was first seen, before they added the audio off etc...
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I think it was after, actually, but from what I can tell, it's been the same loop in there the whole time.
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Dude no need to be a dick because you have read too many posts about Lions. C major is the key the phrase is in. Just be a little more observant.
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it is probably not a "clue" per se- but maybe they just spiced it up a little as more people were noticing the site- adding the audio off button, adding more as they put more functionality on the site. I'm pretty positive the music has changed though, as that fucking inane ditty has been burning my brain everytime I scrutinize the site.
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I hope that the new picture also means slusho.jp gets an update soon... I've been dying to see what flavours slusho comes in, engage in some happy talk, and buy some slusho crap from the store...
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The 'brain burning' is probably why they added the audio off button.
From the .swf, I saw no outgoing links, nothing real unusual. The only real helpful thing was that the donkey is in fact a donkey (donkeyTHOUGHT). Doesn't really clarify anything about the ovenmitt/ovenglove/potholder or cheese/cheddar/swiss. -
and I can't wait. This is going to be great
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You are right, the key of the song is in C. However, it still didn't change. I'm plenty observent, I'm not a dick, and I don't like lions.
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Well tone, unlike audible notes are hard to read, and you seemed a little accusatory and rude- like how would you know what key it's in etc- But I'm still sticking with a change in the phrase thats currently up there. Who knows, maybe it will change again when they add the other "coming soon" stuff!
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it is no the name, becuase the name has not been reveled yet. All we have is a trailer, shot by him, very well, I might add. What JJ is doing is a trick that old monster filmakers used in the past. you get a slight glimpse of something but that is all. Jacque Tourner used it to brillant effect, Cat people. Paramount know owns owns Dreamworks and for years Spielberg was trying to get Invaders from Mars off the ground. He was trying to Re-make and re-imagine it. That is what I think this film is. But for the moment. but i think it could be a Gamera movie(which has been in dev. hell, for years).
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remake fits the bill. Martians covertly come to earth, long time ago and infiltrate the human race. IN japan, they set up a drinks company, which has factories all over the world. One of thier employees is a guy called Ethan Hass and he knows something and passes his info, onto Rob. Something Happened and they found out. Which brings us to New york and one of the Martian/slusho employees is in the building. And before rob can get any info out the aliens arrive and decimate large swathes of Manhatten. This has all been captured on Camcorder and the people who find it , have to put together the clues as to what happened and band of dispirate survivors, must pull together to save blah, blah, blah....
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and if it ain't I going around that chump JJ's house and letting him feel the full force of Born free vs Digby
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It's Born Free crossed with Digby . . .K
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going to be a giant pikachu there i did it i told you guys what you needed to hear
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I think you must have experienced an unendurable privation of attention at some point in your past.I like the slusho in the flux capacitor part, though...
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I know as much as anyone else - also the giant pikachu looks good
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he turns into a giant after drinking 6 slushos that ethan haas gave him and he's looking for rob for help but rob is looking for Voltron to distory cthulu
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His reasoning shows more sense
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what the hell is a voltron
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what the hell is a clthulu
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you really know nothing more than Milhouse and his ideas are more amusing so I stick with them unless !!!! (and this is a biggy s stick with me big boy) you want to incorporate a fire breathing Digby
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with all my amazing and persuasive ideas, I'm used to using almost solely comparatives and superlatives when I type. therefore "big" is virtually unknown to the muscle memory of my fingers. "bigger" and "biggest", however, are well known. hence the misspelling...
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well my mom thinks im cool
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It better have Robin Asquith
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my favourite one is when he has got Barts soul and Bart comes looking when Millhouse is playing in the sand pit and says "Yeeeesssss" . . .marvellous
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its all true = and slightly boss eyed
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from an advert from this site. I'm just waiting for the actual size Harry action figure - although dreading the postage
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from an advert from this site. I'm just waiting for the actual size Harry action figure - although dreading the postage
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so fuck off proof readers
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so I do it twice
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so I do it twice
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we'd be without global dimming and global arming would be much worse
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global warmingYou decide
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anyone still believe that this movie will be about Clthulu?
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Up at 11:52, action shot with military personal in photo.
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other than the first picture, all the minutes in the time stamps have been multiples of six?
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Has anyone been counting how many days it is between new pictures?
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It is a long time till January, that is whole semester of school, the end of summer, Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas, all of this shall we endure/enjoy before we actually get to see this movie.I hope burn-out doesn't set in before we get to see this thing... I just want a peak to tide me over, then I want a larger picture of this thing, and then I want a synopsis of the story... Time is a bitch.
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Sorry. I hadn't seen this one. But my first impression is a picture of a street, a few days after 9/11 showing a TV van (there is no camera crew visible in this picture) and the "bird creature" is really just that, a bird (a pigeon) flying from those trees. The Slusho sign is obviously photoshoped in, badly I might add.
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ohh of lovecraftian roots but do you think its still Clthulu? cause i heard that the call of Clthulu was already made staring tory spelling
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It ended the same as always, which is to say I'm not really sure what happenend at the end.I'm not an alcoholic, I just drink everyday, or at least on days when I don't have to wake-up too early, which seems to be less and less. Sigh, sometimes I miss the lack of responsibility I had back in high-school combined with my old fake ID, but then agian, back then I had to go to high-school...I was thinking of your' Back To the Future idea and wondered what the title of a fourth one would be.. Back To The Future 4: Days of The Future Past?I really have no viable idea as to what this thing is, afterall I at first thought it was the Dark Tower, then the whole Ethan Haas thing happenend, anythings up for grabs until J.J. says something.
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(as I tell every girl I go out with: this is long, but don't be scared...)a. this marketing campaign is unique
b. this marketing campaign is new
therefore this marketing campaign will be under close scrutiny by studios.
how will the marketing campaign be judged?a. by the success of it's goals in building interest in the filmb. by the success of the film, particularly in the first week.considering the amount of energy put into monitoring the success of even traditional film marketing campaigns, this one most have even more sophisticated monitoring, due to the increased scrutiny in its success, and the unique nature of its conception.this marketing campaign is almost solely, if not solely, based on online components, and subsequent online communication.given the fact that going online and looking at websites is generally free, minus the labor costs of the person doing and reporting the monitoring, doesn't it stand to reason that the makers of this film, and in particular, the organizers of the marketing campaign, are closely monitoring the successes, failures and general progress of the campaign.and given that, does it not also stand to reason that someone associated with the movie and/or the campaign will have read every word posted on AintItCoolNews.com concerning the subject. especially given Abrams' letter to Harry, I would say it's almost certain. (hi marketing guys/girls!)and if it were failing, or flailing somehow, or if important information that should be out there, was either being overlooked, misinterpreted, or simply not being found, wouldn't they take steps to correct it? (well yes, if it mattered to their marketing campaign...if it didn't affect anything, who cares?)and if they felt that people (ahem, even those that are of somewhat questionable intellectual abilities, perhaps due to their chromosomal make-up) misinterpreting clues or information contained in the campaign, were somehow causing problems in their stated goals, wouldn't they release information (as Abrams did, early on) to correct it? (see above answer)the fact that they haven't done that, leads me to believe the following:a: people being on the wrong track is fine with them, as long as they are talking about the movieb: though smaller assumptions may be incorrect, and smaller groups of people may be under false general assumptions, no general assumptions that we have as normal rational people, are egregiously incorrectc: the fact that new photos on the 1-18-08 site are published with little fanfare, and changes to the Slusho site are made with similar lack of notice (press releases, etc.) mean that the marketers are happy with the level and speed with which the information is being communicated. d: if they're happy, than it must be a successful campaign thus far, and therefore, we will get new information when they have decided to give it to us.this all begs the question: how does this put people in the theaters? as ostentatious as movie marketing can be, it wouldn't have remained relatively unchanged for so long if it weren't effective. a few sites, some geeks, some pictures, that does not get you a huge opening weekend. even with a small budget, and lower expectations. even if this is somewhat of an experiment (which is lent creedence by the release date), both as a film, and as a marketing campaign.I expect, as I'm sure many other people do, that this is simply a lead up to at least a semblance of a normal marketing campaign. meaning: get the internet geeks excited, get some buzz on local TV and press due to the mystery and lack of information (like, a title?), and then after a while, after people are sufficiently excited, but before there is a backlash, you lay everything on them. the title, synopsis, maybe a new trailer, more important stuff on the website, etc.it's a sophisticated version of a riddle...you give people the riddle, then you let them try to figure it out. they get a little frustrated, they want to know more, but they really don't want you to tell them...then after a certain amount of time, they are too frustrated, and they give up. and then they don't go see your movie in the thaters.Abrams is going to wait until we can't stand it any more, and right then he's going to give us enough new info to satisfy us. enough to satisfy "us" who are already exceedingly curious, and enough to satisfy the general public. and where those groups cross over (since a lot of 18-35 year old males are, you know, "us"), that's just a bonus, since they're almost guaranteed to be in the seats the first week.for a successful campaign that's unique and new, you do the wierd stuff, track it, work it til it's dry, then switch it to something more normal. but the point is, they can't keep this up til January 18th. geeks are hardcore, but we ain't $50 million worth of hardcore. they need the normies who have never heard of AICN, and would never think of analyzing a trailer for hours on end.that's all. (and as I ALSO say to every girl I go out with: thanks for playing along, I hope it was fun...) -
Check out those comments on that page. It's been debunked. It was actually used as "evidence" for The Mothman.
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after the film is released, we realize that there really were never any clues of the nature we've been looking for, nor were there meant to be? Will you hold it against the film? My belief is that the sites are going to unfold in a linear fashion, until aspects of the basic plot points are clear. Why do we assume there is anything there other then some movie tie-in sites which should be taken at face value? I think this is the case, but studios should take note that there is an intelligent audience welcoming to challenging promotional camapaigns.
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seems to have gotten onto the scene really fast... being 23 minutes after the initial picture... maybe this is something the povernment knew about and was prepared for?
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The military would have at least a half hours notice (possibly) before it hit land, because of sonar.I could be thinking too logically, but I'm sure if a giant monster attacked the U.S. coastline without notice, I think the citizens would have a lot of doubt as to believing that the same government could protect its' citizens from terrorist. Afterall, if you don't have a warning system of any for a giant monster attack, then what kind of system could could work against a human being(s).Oh, god, I can't believe I just spent that much cerebral energy into that thought, that's it, I going to start drinking again, there is no other option...
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while I do appreciate the compliments, and though I love tofu, and lord KNOWS I condone consisten self-abuse by alcohol, I do not wear thongs.
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I still say there is a connection between the "SLUSHO ZOOM" comments on the site and the first downloadable wallpaper. If you zoom in enough and position yourself or your monitor appropriatly, that faint blue splash behind the cup looks like raging flames with faces in it. Im sticking with that.
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if you think liking the West Wing makes you conservative, you need some more vodka. or less...it's a fairly liberal show, and I am as liberal as they come. that doesn't extend to my ass crack though. although I have recently lost 25 pounds, so maybe I'd look pretty good in a thong.can't believe you're calling it a night. it's only 11:oopm here in LA...it can only be 1am at the latest where you are. come on son, live a little. personally, I just had dinner, finished a bottle of Reisling, and I'm on to Tequila and corona while I finish up some writing, thn watch the West Wing til I'm too drunk to focus on the GIGANTIC flat screen mounted TV in my office. (yes, I do very nicely)"sleeping is giving in, no matter what they tell us. sleeping is giving in, so lift those heavy eyelids." - The Arcade Fire
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mabe bedtime is in order. even I don't tell jesus to fuck off.but now the writing is done. (teaching a class on beginning editing, and I had to come up with a good tagline...I came up with: "change everything, but don't throw anything away!" how's that?)I can't wait for Heroes to start again. now THERE'S a talkback. chrth, Prof Ikamono, leesheri, napolean park....no offense Davo, you seem like a fun kid, but when one is looking for some real talkback fun, you need like 40 people all analyzing one hour of TV...then it gets really interesting...
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Personally, I prefer Bacardi Superior, it is light rum that goes with just about anything, or nothing at all if your' in the mood.I think that the only way.... wait, I won't finish anything that starts that way when I'm under the influence.What brand of Vodka are you drinking Davo? Because, that is the drink that got me into drinking hard liquor, God I love me some screw-drivers, which takes me back:::::Bottle of lower-shelf vodka: $10Gallon of orange juice, or Tampico: $2.50Gasoline for road-trip in a Suburban: $30Getting your' best friend to drive sober to no-where in particular while you get wasted in the back with a couple of teenage girls and knowing that eventually the phrase, "So, you wanna like make-out?" will actually get you somewhere: PricelessThere are some things money can't buy, but when you are seventeen with an ID of a 21 year old, and have plenty of friends who are female and will pay double or triple the price for alocohol and drink it with you, then that is living...For legal reasons, I don't condone underage drinking unless it for a good cause. And I wish I was back in high-school, but with the knowledge I have today... On the other hand, it may have ended in a worse than it did, which wasn't really bad at all...Wasn't this thread about a monster movie? When did monster movies stop having teenagers doing the 'Twist'? It was like in the sixties, wasn't it?
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...and that is what I'm thinking phonetically.
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no offense...but it's rough...you like yourself some rum, you need to try one shot of Myers dark rum, with a small squeeze (don't overdo it) of lime, pineapple juice, and sprite...it's glorious. you will say to yourself, "fuck a beach and a chick in a bikini, I got the best part of the scenario right here!"
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Agree with your "really long" post a while back. This is all a very well documented experiment in maximizing positive exposure from minimalist big-buget advertizing. Snakes on a plane got their attention, Abrams is already experienced vis a vis the Lost viral marketing campaign. The release date and lack of even a title. All point to this being a sounding board for what CAN be done with advertizing in this fledgling medium As for your later post debunking clues in the language code meant only for geeks,.... well, if they didn't use it this time around, you can bet they will next time. This is virtually zero cost marketing, why not go deep and big?
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I hate your name (not the sentiment...I just hate any name that, when posted as a subject line, makes me look like I'm more depressed and upset with myself than I actually am...and considering I'm a writer living in LA, I'm already there, you know what I mean?)but that aside, you're abolutely right. free is free. and this campaign, so far, has ben REALLY REALLY cheap. the photos, the slusho site? nothing, comparatively speaking, cost-wise.and you're right, whatever is super cheap, why not try it. but the code, and shit like that. I don't think it's ever going to be viable. why? because all it does is help to get out information, which they've found out, they can do for free on their own.OK, suppose a movie is supposedly about a cute, fuzzy animal. but you want people to speculate on which particular fuzzy animal it actually is. you release info on a site called fuzzyanimalmovie.com, that has vague info on it. in the source code is hidden the phrase, "thesmallfuzzyanimalisasquirrel". 2 days later, someone finds it, screams it to the internet world, and it's out there. people speculate for a week or so, then you confirm it. good hype.but you could easily have put NO squirrel info out there, and then whenever you wanted to, leaked the squirrel info on AICN talkbacks, or any other source, and had more or less the same desired effect.the code is never gonna be anything but the code. unless the FBI is involved and your movie is a documentary about child porn.but you're right about Snakes getting attention. I didn't even think of that at all, but your'e more than right. you're super right (sorry, slightly drunk). snakes on a plane got hte buzz and the hype, but not the butts in seats. I think this one is aiming for both.
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And I like it for around twenty-five bucks every-half gallon. Everyone is a whore for something, and many are cheap whores. I understand you get what you pay for, in most cases, but Bacardi Superior (I'm not actually that big a fan of dark rum) is one of the best drinks for your' buck.It is like alot of people love Grey Goose, but there is a vodka made in Austin that is called Tito's Vodka, and while it may sound like a joke, it is (in my opinion) a better vodka than Grey Goose, Stolichnaya, or the cheaper Absolut, and believe me, I've drank my share of vodka.Unlike facts, taste is one thing that is subjective to each person, and I for one like Bacardi Superior, but don't really like much of their other rums. It, is in my opinion once again, a drink that is good straight-slightly chilled, or good with any juice or citrus cola.Now, don't get me started on Flaming Dr. Peppers, that's a drink for stories.
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I, like the above, thought of the likeness of both films advertising. And as one who actually went to see SOAP in theatres, with my younger brother for bonding, felt like I should have regretted any feeling for hoping that that movie would be good... Jesus, I'm watching The Toxic Avenger right this minute, and as far a cheese goes, you can't get more of it unless you went to France (wink, wink), but I'll be damned if it isn't entertaining. But Snakes just didn't go for the balls shot as it should have, it was R, but barely. I wanted crazy ass snake carnage that would offend most people, and what I got was a so-so B-movie that felt like its' script had be re-written while filming had already commenced.That movie is now a joke, but this J.J. project has just a little bit more potential, but only because that teaser was good and it went before a large audience. Like my *Yawn* above, I am worried that unless this thing is handled right, which I think it will, alot of people are going to burn-out with all the secrecy before we get anything of merit, but I could always be wrong; see my handle for reference.
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but bacardi is still crap...and if you hate grey goose, well, there's a spot we can agree on...Grey Goose is TOO smooth, it's TOO clear in taste for me...you mix it with OJ and Sprite and you can't taste it...that's bullshit...but the solution isn't to get vodka from Austin...I trust them for a lot of great music, but not vodka...that's why god created Vox...it has a sleek bottle, and it's the PERFECT vodka. it's not too expensive, but it's not cheap. it's not too oily (like a lot of potato vodkas), not too smooth (like a lot of over-distilled vodkas) and not too cheap and shitty (monarch)...it's perfect...trust me, try Vox...and as for rum, if you like Bacardi, that's OK, I respect that. but it means you're an alcoholic.and coming from someone who has drank 4 beers, a bottle of wine, 2 shots of tequila, and then 2 MORE beers, and can still type this well? you should talk my words to heart...
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that is in my top ten all time for TV shows...and I never saw it on TV (I'm only 27)dum Guy, you're right that a lot of us might burn out, but my point in that long ass rambling post above (and further above) was that it doesn't matter. we aren't the target audience for the film, we're the target audience for the beginning of the marketing campaign. (what am I doing 2 myself deserves credit for that last sentence).if we're mad it doesn['t matter. we are like yeast, we raise the dough. someone else scoops it up with the general public. (hank you west wing)
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...at the beginning of Transformers. At $10.00 average ticket price and an estimated $300 million eventual intake between now and January 2008, that equates to roughly 30 million people seeing the trailer in the US. Some multiple times . Of those 30 million people who are KNOWN to be gullible enough to clunk down 10 bucks on a giant robot movie by Michael Bay and saw the “Untitled” preview how many are now on line commenting on the preview and speculating wildly like you and I and the rest of this outlaw band?100?But the lurkers….That’s where you hook ‘em….Those too timid to have anything to say and are just content with being fed a story……any story will do.
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I'm not sure of your overall point (you should clarify it)...but I should remind you that I not only saw Transformers for free, I saw it early (on the Paramount lot), AND I wrote a review for AICN...so my point is, your stats should be $299,999,990, and also, Transformers sucked...
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there's another reason the 1-18-08 teaser ran only on transformers.
there is something you are still missing. Albertpikewasright. ______________________________________
1-18-08 A devise was found. Are you looking? Don't dig too deep. so few are sooo close...many are still so far.
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didn't mean to go there....haven't seen transformers, don;t care too...it'll be a guilty pleasur when its on cable in a year....no I just marvel at how they can take nothing with a nothing budget, connect it with a rising director/maverick who understands the potential of the internet and create such buzz before most of the movie is in the can. My hat is off to today's psycho-pharmo-advertizing conglomerate nation.Perception is more important than reality.
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you're not still going on this shit, are you?give up, have fun with the rest of us.otherwise, you're going to be the new MRX67, yeah? and he named himself after a mental retardation gene.... http://tinyurl.com/34yp8h don't be that guy...stop your silly shit and play nice with us...
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no, I got that...but I do want to know what you meant in general...
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I meant that 30 million people potentially saw this preview clip (not counting the millions more that have seen it on the web since). What I meant was that's a lot of people.
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look around, don't dig too deep, remember the genetic and templar math.
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And I swear you haven't seen anything that small until you've looked at Tim Rothman in a ceiling mirror. *drum roll & bass-bump*Seriously, Wonka I didn't know that there was a show called SOAP, and I'm only (23), but still growing. And I live in Texas, so I get to have Tito's sans import, and I will try Vox the next time I see it in the Liqour Store.P.S. I commend you on your' drinking prowess, I for one am on my 14th shot and a sandwich from Schlotzkey's.
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I started writing the cock thing before that was posted... Something is found, and it is a bottle of kick-ass Bacardi (yeah, Wonka) in my belly.
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According to Paramount literature, Dietrich's lexicon is bound. But what is known has been said. What was unknown, should be known by now. The device of our own knowledge is sought. Step cautiously and look forward.
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Lack of regard for the intelligent individual, and his possible love for a cartoon.What is known now to me that was not known, is that I need to drink more water and stock up on more Peptobismol... ogh, I think if I verp one more time.... aggg... I was just thinking of Don Murphy when he and...Har... no-more.
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A talkback so far out that the only people who remain are either employed by the marketing campaign to spread fake clues, or very drunk regular talkbackers.I think they (JJ Abrams people) hired too many geeks to spam the messageboards and talkbacks on sites discussing this movie, so now AICN is stuck with bot-like weirdos repreating the same insane phrases again and again.I am in your Cloverfield, urinating.
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although I applaud your sentiment, I abhore your rudeness...asshole...
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because of Mori & AICN. Am I intriqued? Does a baby go "goo"?
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There is a fourth picture up at 1-18-08.com. A woman standing to the left of a SOLDIER, who has his back to us, and another woman who seems to be moving away from them both. Time stamp 1:24 am
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...once you get over your killer hangover... I'm the one who brought up Lovecraft's Cat, not Wonka. Maybe THAT's what the beast is? Lovecraft's Cat! Returned from beyond the grave and pissed as hell for being stuck with a politically incorrect name in a more socially aware time! That initial explosion DID look like a flaming hairball, right? The discrepencies in relation to the Statue's location on Liberty Island and where the head ends up are all resolved when one thinks of a kitten batting a rolled up piece of paper all arouns the house (Manhattan) ...off of the furniture (buidings)... And a giant cat could easily be mistaken by some drunk (no offense guys) for a lion... (rawr, i is a lion). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6swLu5EUVw
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Anybody else notice that in every picture at the official site there are always two women. Cool coincidence, eh?
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This actually happened! In London! In 1971! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5d/Kitten-Kong.jpg
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he died at the age of 81. 1-18-08 is made up solely of the number 1, 8 , and 0. Coincidence??
im not gonna sit here and read through this whole TB. was there any update from comic con yet?
I know there was talk of an announcement on thursday and i saw that there is a new pic on 1-18-08.com, just figured I would ask how we are as far as progress goes?
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Did any body else realize that all of the pictures on the site are of amazing substandard quality...that is also an amazing coincidence. I'm just so overjoyed at the fact there the genre of giant monster attacking city is finally being embraced.
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el sucko...
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i have talked to a lot of my friends about this trailer.not all of them are "geeks." everyone i know that has seen the trailer in the theater or online has commented to me that they are interested in the film. i am hearing positive feedback. i dont mean to argue about this, i think the bickering on here sucks. i just wanted to give my opinion about what "crowd" is excited and what "scene" is bored after they see this trailer. its alive by the way......
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is a Universal property.
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Okay dudes and dudettes. I'm just saying it COULD be a giant snake. You know since snakes have parasitic qualities like regrowing skin and crap. So there that's my theory.
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loving the talk about vodkas. and Im in total agreement about the VOX. thats the good stuff right there.
I know this is prolly not gonna go over well but Ive even tried one of the hip hop guys vodkas ( I forget if its jay z or nelly) its not too bad either.
and as for cheap vodka, when I was in hs/freshman college yrs my old roommate and I used to buy stuff called "poland springs vodka" or we would even splurge the $5.99 for MR BOSTON vodka.
now thats some cheap shit right there.
we would put it in a sports cooler ( the kind that gets dumped over the coaches heads after a victory) add about 5 bottles of snapple pink lemonade, and than jsut for that added kick some grain alcohol ( I live in MA and cant get that shit here so we would drive the 45 mins to RI and buy it)
we called it "rivercity ransoms" after the BEST ole skool nintendo video game of all times......
yeah I went there , but if youve ever played that game than you know what Im talking about...
now all this alcohol talk is making me salivate like a friggon pavlovian dog over here, and its only 130pm on a sat afternoon. Geez I think I might have an alcohol problem..... nah I got 2 hands and plenty of liquor over here, no real problems on my end....
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Old news. more sites are UNfound. Look around.
1-18-08
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glad to see everyones so excited about this date. what are ya'll getting me since thats my bday... cash is always accepted and preferred
thanks in advance
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maybe the japanese lady who went missing became the monster?
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all im saying is this- if you wanna drink shitty-thats the way to go. and its soooo a lion. but not voltron, maybe a post-apocolyptic retelling of the wiz?
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- www.wellmissyou.com
and 1-18-08 showed up as a link
then this link showed up.
http://www.cafepress.com/buy/1-18-08/?CMP=KNC-G-HIT-MT-11808&gclid=CJ2xopyyuY0CFRNyZQodYxLj9A
t-shirts and shit.
Cthulhu. keeps showing up.
and this showed up as a link too.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007Y78T0
(maybe the camcorder used in film or something?)
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it is Voltron.
Pharrell Williams is code for JJ Abrams.
paramount is producing this $50M EXPERIMENT. It will feature all handheld shots and one final scene of voltron leaving earth. That exit scene will last .08 seconds and is costing production over $48M alone. Paramount has nothing budgeted for advertising, so free interwebbing is the only choice.
1-18-08 voltron will be on the big screen for a whopping .08 seconds. you're welcome and there's YOUR movie.
HA HA
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- www.wellmissyou.com
and 1-18-08 showed up as a link
then this link showed up.
http://www.cafepress.com/buy/1 -18-08/?CMP=KNC-G-HIT-MT-11808&gclid=CJ2xopyyuY0CFRNyZQodYxL j9A
t-shirts and shit.
Cthulhu. keeps showing up.
and this showed up as a link too.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ ct/B0007Y78T0
(maybe the camcorder used in film or something?)
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Reminder : This discussion is titled RUMOR CONTROL. SO, that said... This is NOT VOLTRON, NOT CTHULU, NOT GODZILLA, NOT THE RAPTURE. Now...what do YOU know and what do you THINK you know? 2 sites have been FOUND, how many more are there?
HOW MANY CAN YOU FIND?
What will be revealed this weekend?
What won't be?
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For this movie, then I would like to know, what type of alcohol is your' drink of choice, and don't say anything about Slusho.I wonder if around midnight tonight, anyone will be drunkenly posting on this board? As for me, I don't plan on anything more than five hours in advance. If I don't get back here within 5-12 hrs., I hope someone will find something new about this, or if Dietrich is actually apart of this (who knows, I thought Walter B. was just some douche with Wikipedia) then he might throw us a bone.
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Aaliyah Downloads and drilling rigs also show up so there must be a connection.
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On 01-18-08. That's four...
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You are confusing her hand which she is saying to the authority figure...guy with machine gun aka military, who me? There is no lion. Not even a PUMA. PUMA does however, outfit a whole lot of production.
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I guess you knew that already...
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her right arm is behind her back, her left is reaching towards her heart... IF that's really a her.
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He/she admitted that it may NOT be Voltron.
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There is no emblem.
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"...but she is definetely para-military judging by her uniform. And the emblem on her chest signifies the organization she is part of." Ok, you must be serious about this, because no one could possibly keep a bit going this long...it's been over a week, I think. So I've decided you're serious. And an idiot.
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But you can believe that it is. (even though you'd be wrong aka delusional)
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Riiiight. Question 1: Barring a direct response to you from JJ or someone else high up in production--which isn't likely, as someone else pointed out, because of non-disclosure aggreements--when will you be convinced that this isn't Voltron? Question 2: When this movie comes out and it ISN'T Voltron, will you think that JJ spent 30 million to throw us all off the scent of his actual Votron movie, or will you finally agree that, since the movie is out and is not Voltron...maybe this movie isn't Voltron?
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Brother. Crow is a tasty bird but it won't be me doing the tasting when this is all over.
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What the fuck are you talking about? You don't even make sense.
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It's actually CATDOG wearing a Giant's cap. Using your (flawed) logic, we must also assume the person in the foreground has similar birth defects fusing her hand into a mangled ball of fist.
You should study some anatomy, lionchest's hips are pitched and in doing such you would not physically be able to see her elbow IF her hand were NOT on her chest.
RUMOR CONTROL - THERE ARE NO LIONS AND NO VOLTRONS, in this film.
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Doesn't really take place on Earth, it takes place on Arus.
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Don't. Even. Try. There is no reasoning with this guy.
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You're not fucking with me you nutcase...I NEVER said that Voltron sucks. I have stated several times that I would LOVE to see a great Voltron movie. Shit, I'll do it one more time: I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A GREAT VOLTRON MOVIE. But this movie is not Voltron. And you are absolutely out of your fucking mind. Seriously, I feel sorry for you. I know some people who suffer from mental illness and it is a constant uphill struggle. Take your meds - very important.
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IF anyone other than MX believes this is VOLTRON
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refreshing a web page every minute since I don't know when.
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Pray tell,Dietrich. What sort of device? Diabolical or..divine?
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You know...I didn't think it was possible to have a more entertaining TB than the Transformers threads. I stand corrected.
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no tiger, no cat, no cougar, no feline of any sort associated with this film.
You're dellusional mind only sees what it wants and it wants VOLTRON so bad it aches your bones. The mere thought of your desires being dissolved have curdled your mind.
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NOT VOLTRON.
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Who's upset? I'm just stating a fact: You're fucking nuts. It's just like any other fact...today is Saturday...it's July right now...I am currently typing...you are out of your mind...all facts; there is no emotion involved. I simply call 'em like I see 'em. You're still NOT fucking with me, btw. I think a great "crudthula" movie would be every bit as cool as a great Voltron movie, but I am not convinced this is "crudthula" anymore. Know why? Because days ago it was revealed that this is an original property. Now, am I blown away by your insanity? That's a big "yes". But does it piss me off? No. You're fucking crazy and you seem to be enjoying your craziness, so more power to you. But I can't stop talking about it...I mean you ARE totally nuts...
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Dude, this has been going on for days...literally DAYS. I used to be convinced that this guy was kidding, but now I think he's just a fucking whack job. But don't get me wrong, he is an extremely fun whack job.
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You're not crazy. You're a genius, and I'm an idiot who's going to be very disappointed because I can't think outside the box and am very bad at scooby-dooing. Now answer my question: Barring a direct response to you from JJ or someone else high up in production--which isn't likely, as someone else pointed out, because of non-disclosure aggreements--when will you be convinced that this isn't Voltron?
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Would you please stop acting like YOU'RE fucking with ME and answer my question so I can fuck with YOU? That's all I want...Jesus, if it will help this go anywhere...YES, I WAS traumatized as a child by both Robeast AND Voltron. You got me. I had terrible dreams that they raped me and took pictures of it, and I used to wake up crying. Then my parents bought me my very own Crudthula doll (I wanted one sooo bad for sooo long), and once I had Mr. Crudthula, he chased Rapist Robeast and Voyeur Voltron away and gave me happy dreams every night.
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VOLTRON RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!
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I will tell you: The day I see some sort of actual Voltron marketing that discusses the release date OR the day that JJ Abrams says it is OR the first time that there is something that could be considered an ACTUAL Voltron reference on either official web-site...something that would ONLY make sense if it is Voltron and nothing else...nothing even conceivable: Not something that you might identify with Voltron because you desperately want to.
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Mr. Crudthula is always with me. Now please make the scare go away and answer my question...I answered yours with a REAL answer...even though I am almost too scared to type...
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have been saying you're a fucking idiot for almost a week, now, by the way: Because you constantly go into deflection mode every time someone asks you a serious, direct question.
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it's sooooo obvious that's what this is, suprised no one though of it yet. looks to me like this will be the story of george, lizzie and ralph wrecking a major city told from the perspective of the ordinary people caught in the destruction. then again, maybe not.... :)
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I will film myself eating a piece of my own shit and post it on youtube. And in two days you will still be as painfully stupid as you are today.
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"If this is Voltron" "I will film myself eating a piece of my own shit and post it on youtube. And in two days you will still be as painfully stupid as you are today."
Damn. Now I WANT it to be Voltron.
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Be productive. Please stick to your guns, MRX67...without you the world wouldn't be quite as entertaining. You so craaaaaazy...
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You know what's weird? I kind of want it to be Voltron, too...gotta run...
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Someone should remake Shadow Over Innsmouth. That prior version (Dagon) had some moments, but overall wasn't so hot.
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Nothing to see here. Just in the subject.
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Well. Guess I'd better get a life.
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its trogdor the burnanator
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At least two women in each pic, because it is...A double-sided dildo!That was weak, but damnit, I got nothing. And if it is Voltron, I swear GeneralJackCosmo better eat shit, 'cause that would go down as one of the most disturbing, sick, degenerate and appalling things to be associated with AICN.
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facts. its typical of net geeks when there is no hard evidence. You are all saying it could be this and it could that. its fun for a while but gets boring. Speaking of boring. I sincerely hope that next year, there is an abscence of pre-negative buzz. I went to see Transformers and enjoyed it very much. Its a great summer movie. Its a very sold movie. I think it is Bays best movie in a very long time. It looked great. The scenes in the desert were stunning. Bay was really the only choice to direct and you need someone to take command on a film set which involves strategic things like the army and the pentagon. You all made out Shia Le Boeuf to annoying and didnt find him annoying at all, The kid is witty. I thought the scene where one of the Transformers pissed or lubricated all over Turturro was funny. Megraton will be back and more bad ass then ever. Optimus may have one this round, Megatron will be back with more scars and more then up for the next round. The pre-negative buzz agenda does this site no favours.
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It Could be Thundercats.
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Not sure if someone's come up with this one, but:
Is it possible that this movie is about the recovery of Albert Pike's bracelet with which he communicated with Satan? Dietrich mentioned sectorseven.com, which, along with 1-18-08.com mentions Albert Pike and "In Hoc Signo Vinces" or "Upon this signal conquer" when you look up the administrator. sectorseven seems vaguely government related, so perhaps the government has this bracelet, and are trying to use it, but something goes awry. Or not. Maybe this is all idle rambling, but it's too early to start drinking again. -
Moriarty, I just wanted to give you the heads up that the uber-nerds over at the Unfiction ARG forums are claiming that aintitcool is stealing their content!
I went into the IRC channel (irc-chat.solutions.org, #slusho) to start up a conversation about Cloverfield and was immediately attacked for even mentioning the aititcool. They claimed Unfiction forums was the first to discover anything related to Cloverfield, and that you (Moriarty) stole their work to be used as an exclusive. What the hell's up with this bullshit?
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why are you so desperate for attention? just drop it, no one is responding to your antics any more. and you've stretched it way past the point that anyone will believe you any more.have a little dignity, and just drop it. it's done.
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Ass clowns, what else could it be?
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Ass clowns, what else could it be?
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come on man. it's done. just drop it. you can't go overboard, so that everyone knows you're joking, and then try to bring it back.everyone knows you're joking. and as such, it's bordering on pathetic to still be going at it. we all know you're not serious. we know you're not a private detective. you're a kid that needs too much attention. so take the chance to be an adult. prove to me that people can fall forward into maturity, if they only get a small push.
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The guy does not say 'Lion'. Here's why: What do you think of when you see or hear the word: Lion? That's right, a cat with a HUGE FURRY MANE! The Voltron lions DO NOT have MANES! If you saw a huge creature/being, you’d really think to describe it as A LION, let alone expect everyone to understand you meant FEMALE LION? NO FREAKIN’ WAY. If you saw a huge METAL thing on the order of Voltron, you’re far more likely to scream: IT LOOKS LIKE A ROBOT. IT’S HUGE!
However, if you saw something big, that you were fairly sure was organic and animal-like, you’d probably say: IT’S ALIVE; IT’S HUGE! Also, if it was Godzilla, I think you’d have to believe that JJ thinks more of his audience than to try to surprise them with something they’ve already seen. Again, if it was Godzilla, I’m sure the guy would have screamed: I LOOKS LIKE GODZILLA! Most of the people posting here are stupid, but even I would give them this much credit (or maybe not). It’s not going to be Voltron or Godzilla or Cthulhu…it’s going to be something familiar but not something we’ve seen before. BELIEVE IT!
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MRX67 was going on and on about and couldn't see shit. Then I saw what he was talking about, her fucking hand that's on her chest. That shadow that he thinks is her lower left arm behind her back is most likely a hand bag she is carrying on her shoulder. How about them facts?
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Oh, and do you really think after the success of TRANSFORMERS, that anyone would consider making a movie like Voltron for only 30-million dollars? Are you kidding me? Why would you make a movie like that with less than state-of-the-art effects costing MILLIONS of dollars and feature it in the form of camcorders? THINK, PEOPLE!
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I wonder what happened to him that he prefers even negative attention to no attention. poor kid.
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name calling is juvenile, even for a kid. you jsut have to start with small steps. here's a good first step: first admit that you're not really a detective. then we go from there. can you admit to that?
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How many times do I have to tell you? It's Chris Benoit and he's back from the dead terrorizing the citizens of New York on his way to Connecticut to kill Vince McMahon.
Now you know what it is about so you can go back to playing World Of Warcraft and jerking off to pictures of Spiderman.
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I ask you again, kiddo. can you admit now that you're not a detective, lol.and do you see the irony in calling me a wannabe writer, and you a "real" writer, considering I have a writing degree, I TAUGHT writing for 5 years, and I have sold pieces of writing. and you...write in ALL CAPS.come on, kid. stop lashing out with nonsensical insults, and act like an adult. you can do that, can't you, kid?
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A stream of conscience. It's as if the movie Identity was about a guy thinking weird shit about Cthulhu, Voltron, and a plethora of random shit...And, MRX67, your' plee to writers seemed a bit weird, espcially considering the odd stuff people post on these things. Honestly, you cold be talking to freakin Noam Chomsky, and wouldn't guess who it was if was in douch-bag/smart-ass mode.... wait..I'll check back here later to see the progress, and I got a pic that I think hints towards Cthulhu-ness, I'll post.
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http://tinyurl.com/34yp8h
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I'm tired of seeing the pathetic arguing on this TalkBack. Post something useful for figuring out this marketing campaign, or post nothing at all.
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Has someone confirmed or denied that the text is Japanese? Why is one not a link? Have these been deciphered? I know most of them do go to the same pages as the slusho "beans" but that does not necessarily mean that the translation is the same.
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I'm sorry, did you just say there's no such thing as a writing degree? I know you're not too bright, but...are you serious?I have a BA in creative writing. it is a, say it with me kiddo, WRITING DEGREE. my emphasis was on historiographic metafiction, and I wrote my senior thesis on Daphne Marlatt's novel, "Ana Historic", and "The Afterlife of George Cartwright" by John Steffler.you can certainly be someone different on the internet. you can name yourself after a gene for mental retardation if you want. why not?but the point is, you attacked the real me, my actual profession, and you did so with staggeringly stupid and incorrect information. so I clarify.how about you, in real life? care to give us some insight into the real kid?or will you just ignore everything I've written, and respond with another ignorant, incorrect, and illogical statement. replacing logic with dumb insults.I'm betting on that. so don't let me down, son! respond with some insulting, ignorant, and incorrect comments, just like always. you can do it!
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i'm really really serious about this movie. i want to go around, finding the sites, i want to know what all this is about... can someone out there, SOMEONE please im me about this?! i'm getting so FUCKING TIRED of all you pricks who just decide to post whatever they want!! we're trying to figure out what the fuck this trailer is about, so stop making it harder!! im me at, pauldanolover666 PLEASE!!!
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How about a contest in which readers submit original artwork of what they think the monster is? It ends the day of the reveal.Closest wins? That would be interesting.
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But any Douche bag (and not ZS i know your just funning) Who honestly believes this movie is the Dumbest son of fuck to ever be Born I mean really son do you snack on paint chips with asbestos Bites? I applaud interest in a movie but to cling to first thing to pop into your contrives little mind. When JJ anounces that 1/18/08 has nothing to do with Voltron lets change our names to MRX67 is a dumbass.
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...Don't recall this being discussed much in the several thousands of posts about this trailer currently featured on this site.....Why do the pieces that appear to be jettisoned into the air as a result of the "ball of flame" explosion Rob and his friends watch from the rooftop all appear to speed up after brief sizzles like a rocket stage separation. They look like when you throw a lit bottle rocket up into the air. And the time it takes for the meteors/shrapnel to start crashing around them seems AWFULLY quick. Any ideas?
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Trolls aside A doucheBag is getting liquored up by his friends at 12:01 AM, Chicks are Crying so much they wished they would have worn no running mascara at 12:36 AM as they look up. A bright flash of light that makes 12:48AM look like 12:48 PM At 1:24AM The Military is trying to restore order as being with either a Hand on his/her chest or the mmost piss poor rendering off a cat like creature Who may or might not be associated with the government standing around when she should be in some giant mecha. But hey Douchebags needs dreams too. Heres the real skinny this is Monster Movie But get this YOU WONT SEE ANY MONSTERS. the closeste you get is a few blurry shots and scene like the Danger room scene in X-3 trust me.
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I think these might be early, unrefined versions of the actual explosions which will appear in the film. For the purposes of the trailer they were fine, but will be cleaned up for the final film.
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that's a good idea cromwell1666!
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he doesn't believe it. that's the point. he just wants people to treat his rantings as though he does. he thinks that if he says ridiculous things over and over, people will get upset and take it seriously, and he'll get attention, which is what he wants.well I went through that stage. but now I know he doesn't believe it. he just wants to stay in the spotlight. hence the silly references to waiting for tuesday, etc. I mean when a kid says something like, "I'm just waiting for a couple sources"...I think the cat is out of the bag that this isn't just a kid needing attention. it's a pretty dumb kid needing attention. at any rate, now I'm struck with a curiosity to know more about him. he's so angry and bitter, and any time you ask him a question, he just spouts nonsensical idiocy over and over. I mean, his latest assertion was that there is "no such thing as a writing degree". we're not dealing with a large brain, here.but I'm curious as to why he needs attention so badly. why he feels the need to lash out at other people. is he sort of confused between his lies for attention, and his lies to conceal his own self-disappointment? it's very interesting. I do want to know more. but unfortunately, he's not going to give us any real info. just wait. his next post will be another dimwitted insulting rant about nothing. but I'll keep trying to get him to open up about what's wrong in his life.I mean, any kid that claims to be a detective, and then sort of plugs their ears and says, "I can't hear you!" whenever anyone confronts them about this obvious, and sort of pathetic lie...well, that's a kid with some trouble. pretending is one thing. why not, it's the internet, right? but sticking around after you've been caught in a lie? not caring that you look like a complete fool, because you need attention that much? I mean, that's pretty sad. I feel kinda bad for the kid.
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Is there really such a drink in Japan? Or is it made up for the movie?
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proof it is not Voltron, but this is a magical monster...http://tinyurl.com/2bee6bNotice the lack of panic, b/c Cthulhu has caused his mind melding abilities to work once it hits six-thirty in the morning.
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You can't save 'em all, and, in truth, the more you comment on how pathetic he chooses to appear to be, the more you feed his pathetic need. He is now the puzzle. Don't you see?And, I am sure he is round and is a device which is just another word for Tool.
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Reminder : This discussion is titled RUMOR CONTROL. SO, that said... This is NOT VOLTRON, NOT CTHULU, NOT GODZILLA, NOT THE RAPTURE. Now...what do YOU know and what do you THINK you know? 2 sites have been FOUND, how many more are there? HOW MANY CAN YOU FIND? What will be revealed this weekend? What won't be? 1-18-08 A new site shall be found.
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Dietrich: I know something, and I know something else. I have found other sites, and more sites will be found. Something will be revealed this weekend. A device has been found. A new site will be found. With a double sided ass-to-ass dildo device that is round. Something will not be revealed this weekend. Remember Albert Pike.
MRX67: No matter what you hear, I will always be true to your word. Yeah, Voltron, yeah! V for Victory of Voltron! Voltron!!eleven. Man, are people going to feel stupid on tuesday when they realize we are right! -
This is totally off topic but since this board has gone completely off the rails, I figured what the hell. I'm sure you posted it somewhere else but what kind of writing do you do? I've written and directed a couple of horror features and I'm always interested in what other writers and filmmakers are doing, especially on the independent front. Just curious. You don't have to post it here again if you don't want, I can give you an e-mail. Oh, and if this movie turns out to be a re-imagining of Far Out Space Nuts, I'm going to be a very happy man.
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What are you rambling about?
Viral marketing hired by Paramount.
Effective and worth the fee.
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most of the writing I've done so far has been short stories, a few essays and guest editorials for newspapers.but I recently graduated from film school, and moved to LA. I've sold two scripts this year, one indie comedy/drama, another a slightly larger family drama. both designed to be able to be shot on a very small budget. the latter probably won't get done for a while, but I don't mind, the money was good. the former, probably will be shot SAG ultra low budget sometime early next year. can't say much more than that until I know more and am allowed to say more next month. what films have you done?
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The riddle we can guess
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I tried titos vodka awhile back and it was pretty good plus grey goose is just to damn expensive.
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How did you figure out who Ethaan Haas was right was made by before anybody else Moriarty? Also the whole buzz of this movie was like a silhouette. Show them a outline of what it could be but it can be anything else underneath. It could be lost,cthulu,paracite whatever the whole point it is the silhouette that guides and entrances us to believe we see something and it is probably different from what you think as you had stated.
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because Abrams is too creative / imaginative to remake an old stupid cartoon..the trailer premiered during Transformers cause that was the target market........someone who truly is creative finds it no challenge to "reinvent" bad old material. Chris Nolan did reinvent Batman and it was awesome, however the "dark knight" material is far more substantial than any old voltron cartoon.
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JJ Abrams released a teaser, he produced and cut himself, onto unsuspecting suits. Those suits handed him the marketing team responsible for other popular Paramount Film campaigns. I will not list them. Abiding by JJ's rules, the marketing is to be shrouded and cryptically intense.
So far this is working.
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That's a good assumption. It's placement prior to the TRANSFORMERS movie was due to the sheer volume of projected "seats" in theaters.
With it also being handled by a successful viral marketing company used by the big P, often...who also did viral campaigns for Transformers...it was already ready already.
It's not due to it being similar to Transformers, even remotely.... sorry VOLTRON worshipers...
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EVERYTHING MEANS SOMETHING
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When Micheal Bay played One of the Frat boys in Mystery Men, why could he have not died for real?
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Yay! Now I have something in comon with MRX67, the retard gene man.
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oh , now that is funny. keep making me laugh einstein. don't put all of your chips on this film being a vehicle for voltron.
i enjoyed voltron when i was a kid, and i can't wait until it gets a hollywood treatment, but this is not it. this trailer is genius. when you are watching the film on 1-18-08, you WILL be surprised. it's alive by the way..... -
there is an ongoing vodka discussion on this talkback. this talkback is so off topic at times.
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stay away from these boards. there's always a few bad apples that have nothing better to do than be antagonistic trogs. i would love to see irrelevant posts ( voltron, vodka, etc...) be deleted. the internet is so vast, i mean think of all the chat rooms and boards these people could be inhabiting. they want to be here because they know this trailer is important to j.j. abrams fans. it gives them a thrill to fuck up the program. these are the same kids that distribute viruses online. if you are old enough mrx, go get a job. employment will teach you discipline, and you may find a girlfriend if you leave the house. anyone agree with me?
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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and this one DOES have a gun!
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*ehem* more than two sites have been found...
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umm... hun? i think your in the wrong blog...
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and we should know a lot more - straight from JJ.
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list all the websites that have been found, regarding 1-18-08?
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some news about the trailer. it will at least start some new rumors. i have a strong feeling that j.j. abrams is going to dispute and directly contradict some of the theories. i hope for at least a "this isn't voltron folks" comment. that would make me happy.....
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That a movie would come. And now, it's here to come again...In your eye pussies. P.S. I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT for the VOLTRON skullfucking JJ is going to unleash! YEaaaaggghhhh!
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Congrats, that's really great. Selling one script in this business is quite a feat but selling two is a huge accomplishment, in my opinion. The two movies I've directed are called GhostWatcher and the sequel GhostWatcher 2. They're both ultra-low-budget (and I mean SUPER ultra low) and I still wince when I watch the first one since I didn't know jack about filmmaking back then (we shot it in 2001). The trailer for the first film is at: http://tinyurl.com/2ppubt and the second is : http://tinyurl.com/2v3toy
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Of course, there is no surprise in this riddle, but that doesn't make me despise the coming of JJ Abrams presents: VOLTRON! 01-18-07 a device is found.
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MRX67, I'm still here if you want to talk...and I'm not sure of the quality of Writer's Digest's online courses, but I went to Oxford, and the University of Salamanca, in Spain. I taught English for 2 years at the Cambrige Institut in Munich, Germany, and 3 years in the states.kiddo, you can't claim that there's "no such thing" as a writing degree, and then try to talk logically about writing. so if I'm not a writer, even though I have a writing degree (which, perhaps you don't quite understand), taught writing for 5 years, and have published writing, and sold pieces of writing, that begs the question...what do you consider a "writer" to be? do you...you know...even understand the concept?but of course, I predicted you would respond with something illogical, random and dumb...and of course, you didn't disappoint.here's a good, simple question you can answer. I know it's hard for you to answer simple questions. maybe it's the ritalin, I don't know, but you seem unable to do it. I'll try one more time.you said before you are a detective. are you still claiming that to be true?
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But I think he said that he was a cop. And the word cop can mean different things, traffic cop for one thing. Rent-a-cop maybe, but those aren't really cops.
But you can clearly see the quality of his rambl...uhm writing in the scene he imagines the fourth picture is revealing. Stellar stuff I tell you.
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even a not so smart cop, still has to have some basic levels of intelligence. and you've have to be, what, at least 22 years old or so, right?how can that be true, if you didn't even know what a writing degree was, until I explained it to you?
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dude, you are making me laugh so hard. keep it going einstein. tell me more mrx67. no writing degrees? wow, you are killing me. what else do you know that will make me laugh? you are entertainment for me until new clues surface. even if you were a cop, why are you sitting here broadcasting it to us. i don't give a shit if you are. you are like farva in super troopers. "i would like a liter of cola"
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you are so on the money. my life is like a v.c. andrews novel. i am locked in my bedroom in a secluded corner with a laptop that i swiped when the gatekeeper let me out to shower a few years ago. five finger annie? what? that is a junior high insult. keep making me laugh. everyone hates you here and you love it don't you? you are transparent. " there are no writing degrees"....wow,what's next from you?
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you want me to paste an example of my writing in here to placate a kid that named himself after a gene for mental retardation?seems a bit, you know...dumb, doesn't it?
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invaders from mars.
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Where is the soldier in the 4th pic? And what is the black thing in the middle? All I can make out are a woman running off-camera, a woman with a hat on with her hand on her chest leaning on something, and a ferris wheel in the background.
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its invanders from Mars crossed with Voltron crossed with Alien. That sounds epic.
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its invanders from Mars crossed with Voltron crossed with Alien. That sounds epic.
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tuesday....what? you can't wait for tuesday? that is so absurd. i am new to aicn. i've always avoided this site because i don't usually like spoilers. are mrx67 types always lurking in these threads? it seems like he is here just to be an ass. i think this film will be a complete 180 from voltron. i can't wait until there is an official site so i don't have to rely on off topic talkbacks for information. tuesday is the day huh? yeah , im holding my breath.....
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the definition of true writing is." i love it, keep it going.
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you aren't going anywhere as long as you have attention. be honest.
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there is no new info on the trailer other than the fourth picture, so i am just laughing at the voltron people.
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Wear any long sleeve shirt and look straight on in the same position and it'll look like that.
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and considering you named yourself after a mental reetardation gene, and you don't believe writing degrees exist, I'm not sure how you're qualified to give me advice. but thanks all the same, lol...here's a segment from an intro I wrote for a friend's book on teaching poetry. that's about all I wish to share with you..."I think most poetry begins with one person writing to another person, and never giving it to them. It isn't for them, it's for all of us. Someone goes home frustrated and uses her pen to do what her voice cannot. And it is not always unrequited love. She writes to those she fears, hates, admires, envies...any situation where the words find her too late. This is not a coward in her room, writing what she is afraid to say in person. This is a hero, setting down on paper what most of us simply murmur as we cry ourselves to sleep. It is a courageous thing to take a pen and write what you feel, more courageous than saying it. There is now a record of the heart's most basic voice. It is her mind that makes it eloquent, but the heart pumps her blood, and she scribbles furiously. She does this, so that someone, someday will read it and find his own voice.
The poet is the tour guide of the heart. If she does her job correctly, everyone tells the given story as if it were their own." -
Where the soldier is.
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back after a while and see nothing has changed here, mrx67 is still talking out of his ass....now joined by this dietrich punk.
anywho..
here in san diego, looking 4ward to comcon th/fri!
doesnt it look like maybe if you used 3d goggles on the pics at 11808.com something will 'pop out' through the shadows/smoke/shade or something? no?
what about the blue bar on the website(after stacking all pics on top left and 2x clicking on far right of page)
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Courses in English lit, Creative Writing Courses, Degrees in Journalism courses. History and philosophy degrees and degrees in politics and social studies. All of those have writing aspects to them. But like Harry, I got my break, by writing for newsletters. good place to start.
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if someone writes a romance novel, they are describing specific actions by specific characters. there is no general voice. what are you talking about? the general voice is only relevant when someone is writing criticism, or essays. in a novel, it might be used once in a while for an example, but certainly not all the time. and certainly not much in a "romance novel". you are a little out of your element here.and I really don't care that you claim to be unimpressed by my writing thus far. I don't really write poetry anymore, and I don't think you even have the attention span, let alone the understanding, to read an entire short story in this talkback.why don't you show me some of your writing. not the incoherent stuff you were ranting about the soldier and the woman, but something you have already written, that you can cut and paste here. I would LOVE to read it. lol...
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it is so obvious that mxr67 is out of his league here. explaining your writing to him is like explaining rocket science to a crackhead. its a waste of time. i am still waiting for his big tuesday "revelation." he is smarter than j.j. abrams ; imagine that. it's alive by the way....
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no, please do explain it. I believe you are completely wrong, and you realize it, but you're trying to deflect it.don't be scared. if you think you're right, please explain it.but you won't, will you? you know you're wrong, so you won't explain it. you'll just make another excuse, and try to deflect attention away from it. right?
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i rented that movie today, and i am not impressed. i like the story, but it was not shot well. i can't wait for comic con revelations.......
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you may be right, but I'm waiting for some editing files to copy from one hard drive to another, so I'm otherwise unoccupied...plus, it's kind of funny, isn't it? someone so dumb that they claim writing degrees don't exist, and then try retardedly to talk about voices in writing, then refuse to show anything they've written...all the while pretending to be a cop, even though NO ONE believes him...not to mention the fact that he named himself AFTER A GENE FOR MENTAL RETARDATION!! it's priceless, and so entertaining.it is a bit like arguing with a monkey, but man, I'm having fun with this brain donor.
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He's calling you gay cause you "use a female voice."
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mrx67 lost all credibility on this site when he said there are no writing degrees. that says a lot about who you are. backpedal on that one yoda. don't avoid it. you said some stupid shit that time. "freeze, i'm a cop sucker! is that a twisted sister patch on your uniform?" keep making me laugh farva.....
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Inhumanoids was an animated series based on a Hasbro toy property in 1986. In the tradition of other Hasbro properties such as Transformers, G.I. Joe and Visionaries, the show was produced by Sunbow and Marvel Productions with MCA Television Enterprises. Unusual in that it was named for the villains of the series, Inhumanoids tells the story of the scientist-hero group, Earth Corps, as they battle a trio of subterranean monsters called the Inhumanoids with the aid of elemental beings, the Mutores.
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"there are no writing degrees" you heard it from the man himself. stay tuned folks...
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bye mrx, im sure you will explain cold fusion to everyone while im gone. i love fucking with mrx67. i am cracking myself up with this shit. he is too easy. keep working on your creative writing degree farva, oh you don't believe in that do you? classic......
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I want you to tell be about the general voice in romance novels. no more deflecting, buddy.
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not 'be'...come on MRX, here's your chance to prove you're not an idiot...tell me how romance novelists use the female general voice...
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will reveal nothing.
Thursday, ComiCon... 1-18-08 will be questioned but not directly answered. If anyone knows JJ, they will also know how, when he's discussing a project, will mainline it. He's not willing to reveal any facts at ComiCon, but he will reveal items that are factors to the facts.
Simply put, he will let this RUMOR CONTROL topic continue until November.
There is no reason for him to reveal ANYTHING relative to 1-18-08.
The greater gain is in the game.
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IT IS NOT VOLTRON. -
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I just play one on talkbacks.
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all your posts are worthless.
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answer my question. you claimed that people that write romance novels use the female voice for pronouns in general writing. unfortunately, almost all novels are in the 1st or 3rd person, so it's more or less irrelevant. come on, answer the question, kiddo...I'll show you a poem if you do...
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You even misquoted one of the worlds greatest quote.
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When: 1839
The Story behind It: In Act II of Bulwer-Lytton's play Richelieu, Cardinal Richelieu learns of a plot against him contrived by a friend and confidant, the monk Joseph. Since as a priest he could not challenge the monk to physical combat, Richelieu issued a written statement which contains the following:
Beneath the rule of men entirely great,
The pen is mightier than the sword.
Bulwer-Lytton was not the only one, nor was he the first, to have the thought. The Greek poet Euripides, who died about 406 B.C., said, "The tongue is mightier than the blade." In 1600 Shakespeare had Rosencrantz in Hamlet say that "... many wearing rapiers are afraid of goosequills." In 1621 Robert Burton wrote The Anatomy of Melancholy, in which he stated: "From this it is clear how much more cruel the pen may be than the sword." Also preceding Bulwer-Lytton was Thomas Jefferson, who in 1796 sent a letter to Thomas Paine in which he wrote: "Go on doing with your pen what in other times was done with the sword."
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Bulwer-Lytton said that, but he was paraphrasing Euripides...and he didn't use the word "power", as you did...and it's irrelevant here since ALL we have in an online forum are words, nothing more...answer my question, MRX, don't be a coward...
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and you know it. you're trying to deflect attention away from the fact that you made yet another huge mistake, and you can't admit it.tell me how romance novelists, or any novelists for that matter, use the female general pronoun more than any other.have a little self-respect for ONCE, and either answer, or admit you were wrong, and move on...
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and look at the clues.
Someone said they FOUND more than the 2 known sites.
But did they?
2 are now, more to be found. Find them and reveal a new puzzle.
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you didn't answer anything. you are a petulant, igorant little kid. you spout off nonsense, and when people call you on it, you pretend you never said it.and you know it. we all know it. and it's pathetic.every time you type and send a comment, you just make yourself look just a little more miserable, and you know it. you know you were wrong about the romance novel thing. I know you know it. but because you're a little kid, and not a man, you can't just admit it and move on...and I feel sorry for you...
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Your postings are quite appreciated. Keeping the RUMOR CONTROL out of control. KEEPING the 1-18-08 discussions viral.
Keep fighting little man.
We all here at the office are having a good time with your text.
Can't say much more.
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I used she instead of he because the author of the book was a woman, and people have been using "he" to mean "a person" for hundreds of years.but that wasn't the point. you said:
"I found it interesting that in your piece when you generalized you chose a female voice. Most male writers tend to stick with the male voice unless there is purpose to make it female. (Most romance writers do this.) That tells me a lot about you Wonka"your vague, senseless insults aside...what was your point? a romance writer is writing about specific people. in the 3rd or 1st person. if they are talking about a woman, they use "she"...that has NOTHING to do with using "she" when you are not talking about a specific person, but people in general, as I was doing. in a novel, that is irrelevane. once in a while, the author might go into general statements, and might be forced to use a general voice, but on the whole, it's a non-issue.but you didn't really understand all that, did you? you jsut made a dumb statement, and now you're too weak to try to defend it, and too cowardly to admit you were wrong.poor kid. -
god you are so fucking dumb. not just because you ARE dumb, but you also think no one sees through your childish tactics. tell me what blunder I made, I'd love to hear it.and while you're at it, please tell me why you think I'm gay. (I'm not)...but again, you don't really think I am, do you? you just think it's a great insult, because you're a kid. and that's what kids think is a great insult.
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all I want is for you to admit when you're out of your league.I mean, come on. you said, "You have a writing degree? lmao. There's no such thing dumbass."can you, at the very least, admit that was a really dumb thing to say?
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and the not-so-subtle "you can do what you want in your person life, etc." jabs, are pretty lame. I'm not a kid, I don't fall prey to really lame-brained attempts to get a rise out of me by insinuating I'm gay. so can you stop trying?
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and dumb...I'll post a poem on here.
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I cant believe no one has brought up the Iraqi Information Minister yet.
I can picture him outside the movie theater on 1-18-08, shouting to the crowd: "Voltron is forming right now, if you just pay attention, you will see the configuration of the cars in the parking lot is in the shape of a lion. The clerk by the popcorn stand used a blue mitten to retrieve the kettle, THIS IS NO COINCIDENCE my friends. And look, observe how the line for the tickets is straight and narrow, yes, just like Voltron's sword! I'm telling you, its plain as day but you just have to open your eyes!" -
....Harry Potter book I bought last night... ...anything happen while I was away?
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what allows us to be blessed? no one walks a fountain lip without wondering to step in the fluid shoeless feet dancing knees-down naked our blessing is image whimsy scenes flashing kicking splash head up to the sun lips split with smiles tears and blood our blessing is this need to squeeze essence between wet fingers
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...as well as makes films and does card tricks? Damn, Will, what next ninja skills?
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... to read all the posts since I was last here, than it did to read the Deathly Hallows. So I guess I'll "see" all you guys in a few hours after I catch up...
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myspace.com/(myname)musicdoes that make sense? I don't want some of the bozos here to know my real name for now...
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I leave for a awhile and this is what happens?I can't believe it, a little about Voltron and a bit on Vodka, I understand, but self justification on what you consider yourself, is kinda out there. So what if someone wants to be considered a writer, with or without a degree, Is not the act of writing proof that you indeed write? Not that it means you are good at it, but then alot of writers suck, but they still write...I dunno, I'm still learning alot shite, so I'm not one to teach, but then again I'm not a professional writer, in fact I'm not sure why I'm even commenting on this. As for writing poetry, I only do that when I'm really drunk and overly sentimental or half-way psychotic.I'll be back later. And to all of those complaining about the fact that alot of this isn't on topic, F#ck off, 'cause there aint alot to talk about at this point other than guesses and conjecture.
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thanks for the advice, kiddo. lol..."a writing degree or whatever you want to call it"...that one made me chuckle. you're dipping dangerously back into the well of stupidity that you dunked yourself in when you first claimed that writing degrees don't exist.and at any rate, I never claimed my degrees made me a writer. nor did I claim that 5 years spent TEACHING writing made me a writer. I do claim that technically, selling my own writing make me a writer, but that's beside the point. the point is, you're pretty dumb.if someone had a sociology degree, then taught sociology for 5 years, and published a few articles on sociology. would you honestly claim they were not a sociologist?writing, and being a writer, may be more subjective than sociology, but it's not ESP. I studied writing, I taught writing, I sell my writing. I'm a writer.you, on the other hand, have derivative poems in all caps, with incoherent lines like, "MY COUNTRY I LOVE WHAT WILL BE HER FATE"try this:My country, I love;What will be her fate?you see how much clearer that is?but of course....I'm not a writer, right?
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and I didn't point out any grammar mistakes. do you even know what grammar refers to?anything worth writing is worth writing coherently. I don't care about grammar, necessarily, but if you write a poem, and you can barely follow it because the phrasing and structure looks like a drunk monkey's text message...that's kinda sad.and you can call me doofus if you like. or "dufus"...I don't mind. just promise me you'll learn the difference between grammar and cohorency...
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You guys are so gay for each other, pack it in boys now your talking about fuckin ROMANCE novels!!!! Why dont you just get it on!!!!!
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This is the worst thread in history. MRX67 AND BadMrWonka should just get married. I think they're jealous of Harry. Everytime i check in at this post thinking some actual clues or sites might have been revealed, I find these two butt priates swordfighting with penis in hand.
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it's punctuation and phrasing, not grammar.once again, you're as wrong as you are stupid.I'm off for a while. but you go ahead and have fun being a moron by yourself for a while. I'm sure everyone else can, without much effort, help you continue on your path of complete idiocy...bye kiddo...
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in case any of you guys forgot where MRX67 got his name...we've been trying to get him to explain why he chose to name himself after this, but he keeps ignoring us. maybe you guys will have more luck. I'm off for now, I'll be back later.http://tinyurl.com/34yp8h
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"Ohhh wonka write me something romantic" - "Only if you manhandle me with that nightstick" YOU BIG GAYERS PACK IT IN!!!!
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"Unless you have some new insight on the movie" What a joke you are! Nobody has any insight into this movie thats why you have all set upon each other, if you read other comments other than OOOHBADMRWONKA's you will see I posted a long time ago and left because of benders like you MRX67 - "Im a cop investigate is my job" HAHAHAHAHA Work from home do you, or are stuck behind a desk Supercop??? REVEAL YOURSELF you numpty - COP, MY ARSE!!!!
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IT WAS YOUR VOLTRON IDEA. Is that all you COP.
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I laugh when I read Dietrich say "NOT A CAT!" ... ...as if my Lovecraft's Cat come back playing with Liberty's head like a rubber mouse was in any serious. (Then again, there are some genetically challenged here who might seriously consider it) Bubba Gillman! that Cthulhu movie with Torie Spelling IS The Shadow over Innsmouth! This new adaption (spoiler) is a commentary on religious intolerance of gays... a gay Innsmouth man returns to his hometown to find his family who are devout members of Esoteric Order of Dagon want to force him into a heterosexual marriage with, a um, "fish". You guys can't insult Wonka by saying he's gay! Wonka's not homophobic so he doesn't take that as an insult... ...he just happens to be straight. Nobady's perfect.
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IT WAS YOUR VOLTRON IDEA. Is that all you got COP.
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You fell for MRX67's lame bullshit!! He cast it out and reeled you right in.
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Actually your NOT!! Your quite sad really. But go on give me your best shot! Out of interest are you in the USA?
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No they are in a galaxy far far away - Idiot!! I like how you never answer questions thats why wonka fell for it! Was that your best shot at messing with my mind?
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Again you avoided the question?
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Sheesh, doesn't anybody go outside and play anymore?
As for the 1188, I figured it out. It's actually a scene from my TV Show "Pyramid", which I described in the Jericho Revival threads (ie the show to get my free ribs after every cancellation). As previously established, mundane things the main character does have far-reaching effects (leaves his keys in the door and a bank gets robbed). Well, this was one is related. As anyone who makes BBQ around Lexington, NC know, the outdoor brick oven you use to cook your shoulder accumulates a lot of fat and grease in the inside. Every couple weeks or so, it catches fire (and is generally left to burn itself out). Well, that's what happened here; the flaming explosion in NYC is a result of the bbq fire. Jake Neilsen needs to clean the inside of his oven every afternoon, methinks. -
I'd hate to think Philadelphia Has Cop as Dumb as this. unless your a meter maid. THAT'S IT! are you a meter maid with delusions of grandeur?
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Why else would they send an NYPD Officer over to Camden instead of a Philly one? <--Live Free or Die Hard
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their issues? first he said he was a cop, now he is a behavioral psychologist. wow, that is interesting. he is on here more than anyone and he is telling other people that they are classic internet cases? everyone , please keep slamming this kid. i love it. what you got for me mrx?
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Just...damn. So is there anything in the last 24 hours of...this that resembles new information? Anything since the fourth photo? Prof? Chrth?
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picture on 1-18-08 and also comic con is next weekend. mrx67 is still posting his usual pulitzer worthy poems and explaining college degrees to us. nothing new.
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and another 2000+ comment talkback.
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...that was tight.
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then we might as well keep slamming mrx67. he is on here 24/7, so he will read every message. here's the lowdown on mrx67: he says he is a cop, he said there are no such thing as writing degrees, and he never answers questions. he responds with insults when you call him out. until news about the trailer surfaces, i will continue to talk this shit about him. he thinks the movie is voltron for christs sake. its alive
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...whenever my balls are challenged I must rise to the occasion, but her answer was a bit less than illuminating. Still, mustn't grumble.
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...you're only comparing the value of the information she gives to what has surfaced in the last few hundred posts of this talkback. Point taken, but I was hoping you'd set the bar a little higher. Besides, the name Alice vaguely creeps me out. Not sure why, but it does.
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many people have come to their own conclusions about what the monster is. i have heard voltron, biblical monsters, lovecraftian, and even read a post about it being a giant deformed whale. most support their opinions with reasonable evidence(all but the whale theory), but i think it is a monster unknown to us. not an already known monster. i think abrams is creating his own idea of a creature. i expect it to be an odd thing. in some way, different from all other monsters. im not saying im right, because no one knows, its just what i think it is. it may turn out to be any other monster that someone may beleive even a deformed whale, as ridiculous as that sounds.
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Interesting link to artical regarding aparasite being responsible for the disappearence of the honey bees...Where do honey bees gather pollen? In the
cloverfield...here's the link
http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/43163/story.htm
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Since it seems that this now is really the title as it takes you to the trailer site..I think this monster may of course be a parasite and its origin may be caused by something in the slusho. That has caused its growth and unleashed it upon the city.. This may be a take on consumerism or could be a statement on how tipping nature out of balance causes it to fight back to restore a natural order of things , quite like the honeybee problem as of late..
I think J.J. wouldn't make a giant monster movie without it having a statement..Even the biggest two giant monster movies ever had their statements about love and nuclear war..
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Gee Impulsecaper I thought my take on the cloverfield code name was entirely original..Don't know about the rest as I haven't had the time or the want to sift through all the Voltron bullshit
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Uh... Impulse caper I was talking about Parasites not Semites
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i just kidddding
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Made you Look !!!!
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realy think this is a zombie godzilla vrs a voltron trogdor movie
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of the 01-18-08 talkback will be to before I go to sleep put hot needles in my eyes and gargle with sulfuric acid and afterwards
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“I haven't had the time or the want to sift through all the Voltron bullshit that I know for sure is just that..BULLSHIT..”
Its called a screen. Most people seem to jump to the last 5 or 10 posts and then pipe in. This keeps the once- a- weekers from stumbling upon something important. Hell, it keeps us all from noticing the rare true clues amongst all the “devices found” and the “wait ‘til Tuesdays” and of course the V word. Which, BTW, I find SUCH a ridiculous idea that it just HAS to be receiving support and input from the source, Abbram‘s Internet PR firm. I say the whole “lion” vs. “alive” debate as well as the Voltron worship is being manufactured by the Studio in this Internet Marketing Experiment. To what purpose? I’m not entirely sure just yet.
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Is trying to schill up some money for the enevitable Voltron movie..
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Im sure theres some movie folk out there laughing at all of us theorizing what the movie is. I personally like the idea of a GOOD Lovecraft movie, and Cthulhu have mercy, if Tori Spelling messes up that new Cthulhu flick...
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...that six months of this is gonna get reallllll old...
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Its time for me to crash, Good night all, and good night Voltron wherever you are...
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Don’t remember where I got this so if it was from somebody up-line on this thread then I apologize…check out the t-shirts….
http://www.cnomy.com/?dn=wellmissyou.com&pid=1POSD3EUD
Every body goes home happy. Please remember to remove the obvious spaces when pasting this URL…
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People who say this is a Voltron movie -- with only a 30 million dollar budget -- are seriously smoking some fucking crack.
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Jul 23, 2007 12:13:54 AM CDT
And the Camera they use to catch all the action...
by what am i doing 2 myself
...can be found HERE!!!!
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If this is an original creature, what is left to figure out?
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We know its an original creature and that it is from the viewpoint of civilians by way of their personal cameras. What else are you trying to find? I mean what is the question that needs answering?
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I stopped looking at this a week ago, and it's still getting massive traffic. Incredible. Yeah ... the journey kind of ended, right? I mean if people are still arguing over Voltron, then I'm pretty happy not to have wasted my time on here for the past coupla weeks.
Thank God I escaped the madness. Oh, and I double the Cthulu thing. I don't even care if it's got any chance of happening. If there's some marketers out there, you should put something up more akin to the Slusho page.
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JJ has answers prepared.
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at least we haven't been banned for being an utter tool...you know, like you have...and no one is claiming to know anything except for Dietrich and MRX67...both of whom are examples of the urgent need for better ADD medication for our children...so shut your mouth before you get banned again, and have to come back with yet another name, and your tail between your legs yet again...
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Look bravely. -
for once again helping to prove my point...
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What questions need to be answered? I wouldn't know what to ask, because all of the most relevant info has been supplied and confirmed already. I mean its being played like a huge mystery, but almost all of the questions have been answered. It would be like advertisng for an alien invasion film, where the studio reveals that there will be an attack, what they will be atacking and how it will be presented. The only thing they arent telling you is the material form of the creature, which has been confirmed as an original design anyway. What exactly needs to be discovered that is keeping people glued to this?
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1-18-08
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You will know.
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Ask JJ why he would release a film on that day, that month. It's obviously unconventional... so much to believe it's unrealistic.
Do you believe that 1-18-08 is:
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B - the title
C - the fictional event date
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TRUTHFULLY....it only exists via the viral marketing company. If you find the other's sites with similar DNS entries you will see the pattern of truth.
viral marketing is shrouded in secrecy, the viral marketing companies involved will shroud their own existance to enhance the cryptic nature of a viral site.
and there is nothing related to VOLTRON within the 1-18-08 project
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being led through an experiment of misdirection/disinformation.
aintitcool talkbacks are not demographics. -
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big monsters, destruction and you -
Especially for a smaller budgeted film. Remember Hannibal, Daredevil and GhostRider were all off season films too. Didn't seem to hurt their bottom line. I honestly see nothing so unusual about that. Maybe if it wasn't a Friday it would be more peculiar. Can you prove you are an insider at least? Maybe reveal the date of the next pic on the 1-18-08 site? All I know is that after all of this teasing, it better be something fantastic beyond imagination or there will be a lot of head shaking and sighing going on.
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...is kicking in, and that is the only way to try and understand the meaning of this.A: Titanic made the most money ever by being released around the end/beggining of a year.B: We don't know the title.C: I don't even know what that is...So, I imagine that Friday is the day b/c most movies are released on that day, and that since the budget is supposed to be so small, if they produce a half-way decent flick it will make its money plus some.I was going to go into some weird reasoning as to why the Freemasons were put into concentration camps and annihilated like the Jews, but no-one wants the Freemasons to get any sympathy, unless a zombie/mutant Freemason is the cause of all this....I hope for two things, one, a giant hogey filled with all the fixin's and, two, Jessica Alba on my lap, only wanting me... Now, what is the chances that one will happen over the other? I hope the Alba thing swings my way, but I'm kinda sure I'll end up sucking on a sandwich...
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wait.
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or do I?
nwo
biblical monsters
cthulu
godzilla
voltron
GI Joe
slusho induced monster
slusho induced hysteria
is slusho important
slusho is important
is rob important
is japan important
is anything important
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I saw The Poster!!! It has the Statue Of Liberty with it head ripped off. And NY on fire.....
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I saw The Poster!!! It has the Statue Of Liberty with it head ripped off. And NY on fire.....
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What could me more tastier or eatable?I was talking about the former, but that latter fits as well....I've been waiting too long, maybe Nitzche was right and suicide is a viable option. At worst it ends the same, at best, you don't have to put up with any crap...............Wait! If you do the Kavorkian, you won't know what this movie is really about, and for all of those wishing for death's embrace, hold off until this movies comes out, and if it sucks let J.J. Abrams' hands bear the the stain of your' blood upon him...If I ever meet Jessica Alba face to face, I will never mention this... as if that was a possibility (sp?).So, Dick Cheney was the Prez for around an hour or so, and Doomsday didn't happen, there goes most of my theories...
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I was fascinated with this at first, but its flatlining. Dietrich: Maybe Im wrong but im pretty sure hes not involved as most of what he says is just repeated and contrived. Remember Carrell in the 40 year old virgin, answering every question with a question in the bookstore? She was fascinated but he never really said anything. I could be wrong. BTW Dietrich that is not a swipe at you, just conjecture in the context of our overall conversation.
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"Monstrous"
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I actually heard it's called "fake title in a lame attempt for attention", and there's a picture of you on the poster...congrats, kiddo!
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If you are correct, then that is lame.
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Sorry for my absence, I had some grown up things to do!!! Now lets look at your reply supercop you wrote "So you come on the internet where you hope that you can converse with other rejects such as yourself" Do you realize what you wrote you dozzy bastard!! Now wonder there are so many unsolved crimes!!
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Then what do you consider your' greatest poem? (Imagine: Jeremy Irons asking this).Sorry, for the bade grammear...
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I didn't see any news posted on Voltron way down here so is that idea dead now? Anyway I was watching THE HOLY MOUNTAIN tonight and noticed they cut a Cthulhu out of that Jesus guys neck after he snuck into the tower not that that has anything to do with the 1-18-08 movie, just another Cthulhu sighting. BTW very nice remastering job on HOLY MOUNTAIN !
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And completely wonderedingly wish my shit turned to gold.Maybe, I need to take more LSD, esp. since I never have...I've talked to people who grew up in the Sixties that say the shit they took back then was wild.... then again, what good has come from the hippies other than good pot and organic food?
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Looks like MRX got the hots for you too, he says 'your next' !! Be afraid be very afraid!! At least we are destracting him from going on about voltron!! He seems to have vanished - supercop must be on a stakeout!!
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somethings don't always mean anything
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Not too sure you want to see that on LSD DG lol.
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Hope this wasn't posted yet...
http://www.product-reviews.net/2007/07/23/more-clover field-footage-and-be hind-the-scenes-and-photos/
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First I must say that I have no life at all with being the mother of 5 children the youngest one being 6 years old. I had to live through all the popular cartoons and remake movie over and over again. With that said try and follow what I am saying. The movie is Voltron. One of the people on the street said it loooked like a big lion. It is very clear that they say that. Now here comes the no life part.... In the cartoon 5 people travel through the universe to find these lions when earth is attacked. The emeny that is called Zarkon always sent a pod to earth and then sent a ray down to make it grow into a Large Evil Monster that would ravage the world until Voltron would form and with his Blazing sword destroy the monster. That is basically what that trailer was about something loud coming from the sky landing on earth getting hit with a beam and growing. The person saw a lion trying to fight this monster but was having a problem fighting it.Trust me people I am 100per cent sure that is what the movie is folks like I said before I have no live at all
thank you
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It's NOT Voltron! Do your research people. If you look up both titles on imdb.com, both films have different writers attached to them. Another difference they have is the company making them. Bad Robot is making this film, while 2 others are making Voltron.
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Looks like we are back on VOLTRON. Goodnight! (or Goodmorning to those waking up)
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There has been some speculation over here in soggy London Town that it might be a re-make of 'Beast from 20,000 Fathoms'.
Personally, I hope for something original.
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...is also St Ulfrid's Day. But I don't expect it's him. Still it would be original. By the way, he was martyred by the Swedes when he chopped up a statue of Thor.Run with that you daft buggers.
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Voltron took place on Arus, not Earth. This movie is NOT Voltron. There's so much evidence of it NOT being Voltron, I'm amazed a lot of you still want to cling to that flimsy basis for speculation (it's a lion, etc). Again, NOT Voltron.
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Alpha Kappa Mu was founded the same day that Lovecraft died.
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Monstrous
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Monstrous
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Didn't Laura Dern say that about Cripsin Glover in Wild at Heart?
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JGiesy, same year, not same date. I have a new theory, Rob's girlfiend found out that he was cheating on her, and that he was leaveing the country to get away from her. The 'sound' was her being told by her girlfriends that he's skippin town, and that she is actually pregnant with Voltron's baby. Or somethin like that... Maybe it's Rosie O'Donnell at an all you can eat buffet...
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I understand there is a pending class-action in the form of a $30-million lawsuit against Slusho. Although I have yet to see it here in the states, except on the t-shirt of some guy in a crappy movie preview, slusho appears to be real. If you, or someone you know, has come into direct contact with slusho, it is suggested you call 1-877-IAM-SICK (OF THIS). Why let the agony of waiting until 1-18-08 stop you from receiving the compensation you surely deserve. ACT NOW before its too late!
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still cant get that reference outta my head. it fits mrx to a "T"
and now the man who named himself , as wonka has so pointed out numerous times, after a mental retardation gene is going around attacking peoples scrnnames, hahahahaha
this guy is a one trick pony. all he does is throw out useless "facts" ( as he likes to call them) than deflects any and all criticism only to come back with more ignorant comments like "theres no such thing as a writing degree"
hes trying to get a rise outta us folks, and he's succeeded on that level. hes also proven that he's quite adapt at making an ass outta himself on a repeated basis and not really caring as he will again deflect all attention away from that issue and say something even dumber.
I leave this tb for hrs and sometimes days at a time and i come back checking to see if anyone has got any new info or conjectures about this project and all I get is the ranting and ravings of a lunatic.
I will admit this much though, it sure as shit is entertaining me, and holding me over until some REAL news about this project is revealed.
keep up the good work MRX, if there was an award for most comedic performance in an internet TB, you'd be in the top runnings my friend.
and you can make fun of my scrnname or anything else all ya want.
it stands for "REDSOX FAN" and the #8 is for YAZ. but I doubt you know anything about sports or anything else for that matter as you have proven your knowledge appears to be soley routed in Voltron Theories and conjectures.
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...is destroying New York. But he's looking back at Boston.
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Slusho is a copycat drink that JJ threw in from his other creation 'Alias'. If it is a real drink, then don't drink it! Hahahahahaha Anywho...
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Slusho-drink in Alias-Jenifer Garner. hottie married to Ben Affleck-who was married to J Lo.-J Lo drank only six Slusho, and is now a huge, alive, fireball spewing, Libery head slashing (cause it reminded her of Jen), monster roaming the streets of NY, looking for Rob's buddy, because HE was the store clerk that sold her the People Magazine that informed J Lo that Jen was pregnant with Ben's baby!!!!! IT'S ALL SO CLEAR!!!! JJ YOU ARE WRITING WHAT WE'RE ALL THINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA......
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This is probably the most annoying talkback ever and yet I can't stop reading it. I have serious problems.
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BRING IT OOOOOOHN!
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It will be reported soon that Volton died today of feline leukemia. The massive robot, comprised of five giant lion-like pieces, had successfully kept his disease hidden from the public until falling over while visiting a local animal shelter. No one was injured. One witness is heard to shout: I saw it! It’s huge! It’s dyin’. Funeral services will be held later in the week at the Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago. On a side note: Production has stopped on a film purportedly to be released on January 18th, 2008 apparently as the result of having to find something to fill in for the deceased robot. The title of the film is not known. Voltron – we’ll miss you.
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if JJ is going to be at Comicon talking about this movie, would that mean that it is a movie about something out of a comic book? I dont know much about Comicon but was just wondering.
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its not Voltron, Pharell Williams from N.E.R.D is doing the soundtrack for it and he is no way connected to the 1-18-08 film the guy running down the street says "it's alive" not "it's a lion" and why would voltron attack New York and if it was why would they keep it a big secret and you would see toys video games and posters all over theaters and T.V. the 1-18-08 is going to be a straight up monster movie filmed with handy cams. i like voltron but this movie is not voltron damn MRX67 you make my head hurt.
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...MRX will continue with the Voltron posts, saying that JJ is just trying to mislead us...mark my words :)
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has a pretty interesting poster on a movie called Monstrous that was next to a Transformers poster at a shop
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The "Rob, have fun in Japan" chick. WOW.
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"its not Voltron, Pharell Williams from N.E.R.D is doing the soundtrack for it and he is no way connected to the 1-18-08 film"
Not only that, but Williams is ALSO the EXECUTIVE PRODUCER.
MRX67's "sources" tell him it's Voltron just to calm him down while he travels through one of the multiple, daily, psychotic episodes he suffers from.
The only way to bring him out of a psychotic seizure is to reassure his lost mind that it is all about Voltron.
His room at the "ward" is lavishly decorated in all the colors of the 5 lions, nurses give him the "lion on their chest" hand (on their chest actually) salute. He goes giddy for it and says that if it any of the others, dr.'s, nurse's, patients or even vistors dispuit it, he screams "she must have 2 elbows then!!!!!!". Which causes ,the restraining team to need to bag his head and belt him to his bed and allow him some quiet time.
Often, he allowed computer aka interwebs, time. Which keeps him from harming the other's in the "ward".
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Remember, it's not Voltron.
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You know, nearly everyone in the those pics on the 1-18-08 site is female (even Rob)...surely this must mean something, something horrifying.
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people who said "Rob" knows something as to what this monster attack might be with that look he gives when he looks back from the window before the slusho guy tells them to go upstairs...i think thats just a look of regret because he wanted to tap jiggly boobs in the trailer and now HE WON'T GET TO!!! Unless he pulls that lame a$$ "Its up to us to repopulate the earth" excuse...
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as having to do with the movie? It certainly looks like a fake tie-in website.
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http://cloverfieldproject.com/2007/07/22/large-image-of-slusho-filming-notification-in-los-angeles-in-june-2007.aspx
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here are some leads for the budding film spy/aintitcool snitches to look into:
Greg Lazarro the film's location manager (310)270-1265
or
Call Film LA direct at (213)977-8600 for other SLUSHO locations
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Monstrous is the name of the movie & it will be reveled at Comic Con. Plus the NEW Star Trek poster is out too!!!
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No one really CARES about the name, as it offers no clue.
IF what you say is true, one can believe that Charleze (Cheeze) Theron is back and looking worse than ever.
She is a Paramount equity however.
Is that a clue?
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I found this suggestion at cloverfieldproject.com...
"Take a business card and poke a sharp pencil through it to make a small hole. Then go to the official Cloverfield website, align the newest picture so it is straight and then look through the hole in the business card, voilà the picture becomes much clearer. It works well on the "Rob" forced drink image too."
It actually works pretty well and hopefully will help MRX67 "see" the truth that her hand is on her chest - NOT A LION!!!
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This is a fun experiment for the company to witness. Bites bitten in all directions. Theories and beliefs. Arguments within a semi-controlled social environment. Some stick to your guns attitude clogging the flow of new 411 desire.
All in all a good time.
Keep 1-18-08 on top for the next few months.
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How is the Poster not a clue?
It has a big part of NY destroyed plus claw marks on the statue of liberty.
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Because we know the SOL loses her head... to a Monster. In NY.
Clue = anything that serves to guide or direct in the solution of a problem, mystery, etc.
The mystery is NOT - is it a monster or where.
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in my previous comments. Read them, and use prime numbers and PI to figure out which words to extract from each of them. The correct combination will reveal the nature of the monster. Good luck.
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Wow!
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But we knew that.
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trailer being shown directly after 9/11? the public would have condemned it to ishtar status. it's amazing how much things have relaxed since then as far as what the masses find "offensive" or not.
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Esp. considering we've already got two major motion pictures based on 9/11 released with less than ten years of it happening.I remember when Pearl Harbor came out, a guy I knew said that that would indicate in twenty years we would see a 9/11 movie starring Haley Joel Osmet, and I thought nope, give it ten years and well get it. We were both wrong.
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Has anyone here figured out the meaning of the cups at the bottom of slusho.jp?
Set of cups on the left - Space between 1st two cups; 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th cups grouped together with the 4th cups being in the forground full of slusho; 6th, 7th and 8th cups grouped together; space between 8th and 9th cup with the 9th being offset towards the back.
Set of cups on the right - 1st four cups could be seend two different ways [the 4 cups are grouped together with cups 2 and 4 in front of 1 and 3, or 1 and 2 are grouped together with 2 in front and, 3 and 4 are grouped together with 4 being in front (the second scenario being because it looks like maybe some space between 1 and 3)].
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It's NOT NICE to mess with Retards!
Hope to see either of them at ComiCon this Th/Fri.
MrCleanAZ: great post
I commented on something like that too a couple of days ago(w/3d glasses though?), it does look like the pics CAN be modified/sharpened and something is sure to 'appear' after they are clearer.
Will try with bus. card!
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Probably not.....but some guy at Joblo seems to think it is.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...eld/polaris.jpg
It`s gotta be fake. For one thing, the studio would NEVER go for that title.
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"the lowdown on mrx67: he says he is a cop, he said there are no such thing as writing degrees, and he never answers questions. he responds with insults when you call him out. until news about the trailer surfaces, i will continue to talk this shit about him. he thinks the movie is voltron for christs sake. its alive"
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Theres a suprise ignored my last post, thought Id gone didnt you supercop!! Still going on about Voltron I see - YOU ARSE!!! Is your source one of your cop buddies deep undercover??? YOU NUMPTY!!
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Check it out: http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=840
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Dont forget to take out the spaces in the link!
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I wonder if anyone really believes that at this point?If the premise is that the footage is found after the attack, what does that indicate to the military's ability to fight the monster?
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I dont know what it is, just like everybody on this talkback, just put it out there for you all to enjoy!
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Where is SUPERCOP MRX67?? He must be on another stakeout! Or maybe hes just doing his homework!! What a total arsehead. Does anybody actual believe this idiot!!!
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http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/23/spy-photo-cloverfield-movie-poster/
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has contributed nothing related to answers. He posted a phone number as a lead which was visible on a poster in someone elses link. There is no way that guy is involved with the production, because he is sneakily presenting other peoples info as his own.
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That's my guess. Paramount Rights? Check. abnormally high temps allowing Blob to survive? Check. Planned remake for it? Check. would someone point out that it's alive? Check. Could it be awesome if it were? Hell Check!
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This is the poster!!
http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/%2007/23/spy-photo-cloverfield-movie-poster/
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This is the poster!! http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/ %2007/23/spy-photo-cloverfield -movie-poster/ The picture was taken here!! http://www.fs-collectibles.com /
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This is the poster!! http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/ %2007/23/spy-photo-cloverfield -movie-poster/ The picture was taken here!! http://www.fs-collectibles.com /
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This is the poster!! http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/ %2007/23/spy-photo-cloverfield -movie-poster/ The picture was taken here!! http://www.fs-collectibles.com /
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This is the poster!! http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/ %2007/23/spy-photo-cloverfield -movie-poster/ The picture was taken here!! http://www.fs-collectibles.com /
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Honestly, I think "Monsterous" is just a teaser - Not the name of the movie. There may be more posters that would have other one-word descriptions, like "Disasterous" or "Destructive". They could even have different photos showing different scenes from the film.
Or it is a faked poster, buy some fanboy.
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http://www.fs-collectibles.com/
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are you sure your not MRX's mother. I mean any lady who comes on here and claims "100%" to know that this movie is about voltron than tells us shes a mom to boot, yeah sounds like something mrx's mom might say.
right before she says "nah thats a stupid idea and Im gonna disown my son for putting that thought in my head"
btw havent heard from the man of the hr in a while.
was there a breakin at the zoo and all the LIONS escaped or something?
what?? I mean that that would only further his theories about "its a lion"
and someone above on numerous times has mentioned that even after JJ denies that this is indeed voltron MRX will still say its all part of the conspiracy theory and hes right and were all morons.
btw debest, Im just kidding about the mrx's mom thing. I wouldnt wish that on anyone.
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Remeber there were numerous spidey 2 posters with single words like "sacrafice" "destiny" and "choice" not a title of the film just a description of the overall tones/themes in the film.
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I think he has been grounded!!!
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I like it! It has a 'B' movie feel to it.
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I doubt that is a fan-made poster. It looks legit to me. Useful information! YAY!
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But i did give credit to he who posted the link. Attempts to discredit anyone by using phrases such as "you just sound like a savage, drooling downs syndrome patient" will gain you no reward.
It is DOWN SYNDROME. unless you are a Brit, then it's Down's. Never Downs. It's a disorder, not an affliction, therefore one cannot be a down syndrome patient. You can have a patient who has down syndrome, lose your patience with someone with down syndrome, but that's about it.
loss of focus keeps the Rumor Control alive. It's alive and it's huge.
There's more faulted information at this point that true information.
A downfall of viral marketing is that anyone of you can make a website clever enough to fool anyone digging too deep.
a hint....
real 1-18-08 sites lead to one group.
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So have you done LSD? I know alot of people who have, but I've never really bothered trying to find some, it's just the whole it being synthetic thing that makes me wary.I did once down (6) grams of psycilicybn (sp?) 'shrooms once, and had an ego kill... That's another reason I'm wary of synthetics, since it has been documented that the majority of natural enthogenics usually cannot cause toxicity to reach level that are leathal, and most do not cause structural changes in the brain, i.e. getting to be retarded.
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is it the bracelet?
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That whatever it is, it is Monstrous...But what kind of monster?
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the link to the masons group seems too strong. the rumored pike bracelet. his connection to satanic rituals which i at first dismissed as rumor, but there is quite a history there. there is a story that parallels the pike story. something called the lesser key of solomon.
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wait a minute.......
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wait a minute.......
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wait a minute.......
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Will finally be available to all knowing fans soon. Thanks to supporting sponsors and an interactive promotional/contest campaign in the works.
$30M did not include marketing. The suits are pushing for huge returns on the $30M drop. The best way is to get you involved.
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about those cities found under glaciers? Exploration technology has advanced so far that scientists are now heading towards excavation sites.
Not that this has anything to do with Slusho.
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recently there was a story about a symbol found in lower manhattan in the financial district where the explosion on the trailer occured. the symbol was a triangle and a big huge deal was made of it. i know this is a stretch but could mainstream marketing be being used in this. the triangle is a FAMOUS sign used in freemasonry and the guy who discovered it is named alan soloman. like the temple. like the masons ancient founding. i know this is a stretch but geez it seems to tie in a little better than cheesy ovenmit thinking fish.
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Multiple angles to be explored.
3 are Prime.
Prime in mathematical, biblical and scientific ways.
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This is the info on the show http://www.fs-collectibles.com/
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http://whois.domaintools.com/themonstrousmovie.com
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Wow!
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"In July 2005, producer Mark Gordon announced a collaboration with producer Pharrell Williams as well as producers Mark Costa and Frank Oelman to make a live-action film adaptation of the franchise. Pharrell Williams was also reported to score the film. In December 2006, screenwriter Justin Marks was announced to have completed a script for Gordon."
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milhouse, if you took the time to read one of the many posts above, you will have seen the info you posted...about 2 dozen posts worth.
WE know it's not Voltron
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Him, you or i could register a site and post the same info as seen on THEMONSTROUSMOVIE.COM whois.
what is curious however is that the .net and .org's are NOT registered by the registered.
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theres still people like mrx67 that believe its still voltron
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he wants you to believe he believes it.
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As I mentioned before, anyone who owns a domain, can place that registar info on the account. Mostly, we use it to secure anonymity, some obviously use it for deception.
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This site is not what it was...
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But do you?
THINK AGAIN.
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KNOWN OR UNKNOWN INFORMATION IS THAT.
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Why did you not know about poster? And describe the poster if you work for JJ
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Good work! Interesting image.
Dietrich- all you do is reword the obvious to make it sound like prophecy. I can do that too-
Soon a new picture will befall. It will answer little but ask much. 1-18-08.
Interesting how the oceans are so prominent in the slusho history.
What can be said can be unsaid.
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It is like how Eskimos have more than one word for snow...
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they don't let people with severe mental retardation have credit cards...how are they even going to buy those shirts?they should be making some that say: My son has an extra chromosome, and HE heard "lion"...then the parents could buy them...
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http://tinyurl.com/2oa4a8a fool and his money are soon parted...truer words were never spoken...
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thats gonna suck if it is indeed alive like most of us believe
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cup of Slusho trampling through the streets of New York, I would buy it.
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This thread is dead, or so it appears.
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i seem to be missing something seeing as how i can't be here as much as i'd like due to work and painting. can someone clarify for me the whole 'a device is found' thing, or is it just another decoy or sumthin?
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is due to the fact that people are investigating a mystery that was solved when Moriarty posted his exclusive in June. I mean, what could anyone still be looking for? The only mystery left is the form of the monster(s), and even that is confirmed to be an original design. So what is everyone expecting to find at this point?
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i saw the poster with the tagline 'Monstrous', and that's what i think it is: a tagline. At least it gives me that feel. I personally think the title of the movie is 1-18-08, as in, on that date the world changed and the tagline 'Monstrous' simply describes the poster and the scale of the destruction in the city. can't wait for a clearer picture of the poster tho :)
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Man is born unto trouble, and underneath are the everlasting arms.
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It is LEVIATHAN from the east and BEHEMOTH of the west.
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a device is found in your ass.
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But "ZIZ" is not found in any version of the Bible, only Hebrew folklore so I doubt it.
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What a chimera then is man! What a novelty! What a monster, what a chaos, what a contradiction, what a prodigy! Judge of all things, feeble earthworm, depository of truth, a sink of uncertainty and error, the glory and the shame of the universe”
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In the labyrinth of a difficult text, we find unmarked forks in the path, detours, blind alleys, loops that deliver us back to our point of entry, and finally the monster who whispers an unintelligible truth in our ears.
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forget about my question regarding the device thing....i already have...
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The tool is found, also to some a device.The tool, or device, is seen as long to some and wide to others.Beware, for the tool, or device, can put out your' eye. 1-18-08, a tool is found, also known as a device. I have seen it and it is dangerous and it is huge, beware the TOOL, or also known as device.(If anyone wishes to put the punch-line to this one, please feel free to keep it going)
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Deitrich, IF you are in the know, your earlier comment about cities under glaciers.. seriously pulls me back toward a Lovecraftian story, At The Mountains of Madness, and the Antarctican exploration. I'd love to see something along those lines.
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the device may be a red rider bb gun. you'll shoot your eye out.
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are hilarious. i think some of you are mad that you didnt follow through with this idea that was posted 3 weeks ago on the first aicn tb site. there are tens of thousands of people that follow the comical rantings of this site and others and someone is cashing in on the stupidity. probably jj
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while you were gone a guy asked me why you named yourself after a gene for mental retardation...I told him to simply wait, and your next few posts would make it evident...so, thanks for that...lol
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As per usual nothing to say, No BIG REVEAL!! Theres a suprise! You go ahead and get some sleep little boy! Supercop lead hits another dead-end.
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So what you are saying is you cant prove that its Voltron because of a false name and a fake site - THATS CLASSIC!!! WHAT A NUMPTY!!
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Everyday you dig that hole deeper and deeper.
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his quote from Pascal may have pointed us back in the "Lion" direction. A Chimera is a monster of Greek mythology with a lion's head, a goat's body, and a serpent's tail. Or in zoology, a chimera is an animal that has two or more different populations of genetically distinct cells that originated in different zygotes; if the different cells emerged from the same zygote, it is called a mosaicism.
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I got a T-shirt and a pack of Bazooka Gum? Its Yellow and has the Slusho Drink on the front. Weird stuff maynard.
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I "Wager" you're typing this from some kind of catacomb eh? *wink wink - nudge nudge*
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has released an ancient beast from its icey slumber?
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I've been putting up with all this stuff, but now I have to say something. MRX67 is convinced that this is Voltron. Fine. I don't care. But that this girl in the 4th 1-18-08.com picture has her hands behind her back is just silly. See http://tinyurl.com/2wrb8a for a poser-based reference of what he thinks she's doing (on the left), and what I think she's doing (on the right, infront of the car). There. I said it.
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Kinda like what the Slusho boy and girl are doing? The Slusho girl looks to have both hands behind her back as the boy looks to have his left hand over his chest and right hand behind his back. I think this has some sort of meaning.
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You said you'd drop a bomb today and prove to us that it was Voltron. Well let's have it. What is it?
And BurningSoul.
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The Voltron Force NEVER, EVER, EVER had a leaping fucking lion on their chest for a logo or emblem.
If you knew anything at all about Voltron, you would know what the logo for the team actually looked like.
It's Tuesday, Mr. Retarded Gene has nothing. My NAMED source says it's not Voltron. That's right, Mr. J.J. Abrams himself says it's NOT based on an existing franchise. Voltron is an existing franchise, so the ACTUAL FUCKING PRODUCER of this movie says that MR. RETARD is full of shit. I doubt we will hear from this bolsa de douche, but if we do it will be something along the lines of :
[internal thought]Ignore all posts that aren't my own.[/internal thought] You are all wrong. Abrams is trying to throw us off. It's Voltron, and one day, many moons from now, I will prove you all wrong and finally move out of my mommy's basement. Then you'll all see. Yeah, you'll see.
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WITH THE ATTEMPT TO THWART MY PLANS TO REVEAL THE TRUE PLOT OF THIS MOVIE THAT I MAY WAIT. I'LL SLEEP ON IT. AGAIN, JOB WELL DONE JJ.
You have nothing, and you are a gigantic fucking douche. You are such a huge bolsa de douche that your very posts make my computer smell like vinegar and water. You should license your douchebaggery to others so that they may learn to produce smells via the internet.
Why can't you just admit that you are wrong? You are a sad little person, and I hope you get the help you need. Good luck to you in getting your life on track.
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http://cloverfieldclues.blogspot.com/
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http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthr ead.php?t=129821
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Would make for a kick ass movie also.
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That's a pretty good explination. So that would make it a jewish monster movie. Oy!
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...hmmmm, MRX67 copped out. ImpulseCaper came back to say hateful things about Jews to see if anyone would react Red Ned paid me a HUGE compliment by comparing me to chrth Dietrich seems to be following MXR67's pattern of rejecting anything that doesn't fit his pet theory... Monstrous? It seems legit to me... cause a fan-made fake would have been posted a lot more clearly... and themonstrousmovie.com is registered to Paramount... we'll see...
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http://bo ard.spawn.c om/forums/showthread.php?t=403241
Most of the humans were taken care of during the One Day War. Just a few survived remaining in hiding. Doesn't look like anyone in that trailer was in hiding. And Voltron didn't form until 5 years after the invasion according to the script. So there goes the whole "Its a lion, and its huge" BS.
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Why the name calling? I just posted a find from another source that hlps clear up the photos. Yes I mentioned that you (MRX67) would hopefully "see" there was no lion, but alas you must have taken it personally.
As for today's reveal that wasn't...
So basically you are saying that since no one believes you, you are refusing to post "the real truth". What a cop out (pun intended).
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Again I ask you, are you just planning on saying "Yep, that's what I meant" whenever the true plot is told to us?
As I told MRX67, if you know something prove us all wrong.
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Did you notice - no name calling?
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hey MRX!!!!! we're waiting for the big reveal. or has it already been revealed that you know shit about shit and are a voltron loving cop wanna be?
oh wait it has. the wait for the reveal is over folks.
nothing to see here please disperse
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this movie is worth all this childish talk-backing. On a side note, I hope MRX67's proof is a photoshopped picture of the explosion with a cartoon Voltron pasted in beside it.
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its another one of thoes stupid games
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what language the symbols are?http://www.00112358 .net/
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but I liek your idea better...Mission code Z, I agree that's a pretty well thought out and convincing explanation. but in a broader sense, a jewish monster movie with 3 monsters, with the camcorders and whatnot? how would they explain it all from that perspective?not to mention, in hebrew mythology, no one can kill a behemoth but God himself...
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it's like that.
and it's not related.
No one claimed me to have information or as an authority.
Don't believe everything but remember everything means something.
Someone is right.
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I honestly think that could be the most childish name calling one could fling to another.I'm pretty much up to the conclusion (but then again I am Dum) that both Dietrich and definetly MRX67, are yanking our chains harder than.... They are just killing time by trolling.If I'm wrong, I will consume two 40 oz. bottle of the malt liquor Hurricane in less than a minute, and post it on Youtube, along with the vomitting it will induce.
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going with jewish, or any, mythology in a literal sense would be an impossible feat. Using a MYTHOS as a creative springboard however...
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On a personal note, I wonder when we'll see the animated Harry consuming his 7th slusho and turning into a giant ball of red hair...in the top left corner animation block.
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If only God himself can destroy the/a behemoth, then that would be the most flagrant use of the Deus Ex Machina, ever.Although, I'm not sure how you would end it, unless you went the Sopranos route:God looks at the devestation around and see one man alone, he looks to him and asks,"My son, you have enured much, I will grant thee an answer to your' most sought after question in this life."The man looks up (because God freaking huge) and asks, "What religion does it take to get into heaven?"Cut to a black screen.
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because the movie starts with recover groups finding the camcorder.
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did anyone catch a big annoucement from mrx67 today? i read a few of the posts from earlier but i don't see his promised bombshell. why am i not surprised. i rented escape from new york today. the s.o.l. head caused me to think about that movies poster. visually similar to what the trailer shows.
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Here's another fun, unrelated, image.
http://tinyurl.com/254vtj
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http://tinyurl.com/2fmr7h
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...it isn't important that you saw John Locke in a Jeep commercial today. What's important is what the jeep commercial is trying to tell you. 1-18-08. We delice the bound.
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... well, Hollywood could be seen as a "dank jungle in a hotsile country"... ... I kept the spelling "hotsile" because it describes Hollywood better... ...although Hollywood IS also hostile... ...speaking of Hostile why is Eli Roth's ersatz penis uncircumsised?
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...so you're saying JJ Abrams stole the stiffness of your resolve. That you are no longer turgid with a thrusting, insistent desire to impregnate others with your fertile knowledge but have been left limp and pulpy, malleable, your passion for revelation satiated. And apparently it will take you more than 24 hours to rebuild your crusading stamina. Maybe you ought to eat some oysters.
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you may have restored some of your credibility this time mrx67. i'm shocked by this announcement. that's a juggernaut of a clue. i am so happy now.
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MRX67 didn`t give us his big revelation because......he was busy with a lot of phone calls!!!
Ha ha, what phones calls? Calling your Mom to see if you`re having macaroni & cheese for dinner? Bwaaahahahaaa!!!
I also think it`s amusing that he chides others by saying things like "go play with your crudthula dolls".....while HE is the one practically jizzing his pants over the prospect of a movie based on ACTION FIGURES!!!!
Action figures of lions that turn into a giant robot no less!
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if anyone was unsure that MRX67 was joking before, there can no longer be any argument. claiming that JJ Abrams was personally involved in derailing his "investigation"? come on...none of you can believe this kid is serious after that, can you?he just loves this attention, but he's not quite smart enough to pull it off believably, so he just plays the dumb card over and over. hence, his name and the mentally retarded gene thing.I feel silly for taking him seriously before. he had me convinced he was serious. not that he was actually a (laugh) detective, but that he really did think it was Voltron and wanted to convince us.at least now we know for sure he's been joking pretty much the entire time, and we can stopbothering with him.
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thank you. that's good.
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who's the writer for the voltron movie?
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Voltron2008/com = Notice: This domain name expired on 06/16/07 and is pending renewal or deletion.
It's still NOT Voltron
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stop bothering with MRX67, he's just trying to get a rise out of us. we were all dumb for taking the bait earlier, the least we can do is stop now.there is no voltron movie site, so his last clue was yet another joke.he just wants attention, so like you would do with a toddler, let's just ignore him, shall we?here's hoping some new stuff comes out at comic-con!
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what im going to stop trying to reason with you because your only going to say that whatever i say was put there by jj abrams to throw us all off the voltron trail(why someone would do that baffels the mind) and not mention the crap load of evidence showing that it won't be voltron damn it MRX67 you make my head hurt.
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...a while back you posted "Slusho Update"... ...but there hadn't been an update to slusho.jp in quite some time... ...and there hasn't been one since you posted that... ...so what were you getting at? ...please nothing about a "device", ok?
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he claimed JJ Abrams was personally derailing his "investigation"...can we all agree now that he's joking? fuck's sake...what more proof do you need that this is a joke?!just forget him, he'll go away eventually. kids lose interest quickly.
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i'm going to discredit the kid. at first i was really angry that an agitating kid was polluting this source of information, but now, i am laughing my ass off at how many people hate him. keep giving him hell every time he posts. he does have great announcements and clues though (ha). this film is not voltron. repeat. this film is not voltron. if you think this film is voltron, i think you are wasting your time. there are other places for you on the internet. i can suggest some really cool places for you to inhabit.
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Get ready. Tomorrow at 6:00 MRX67 will tell evryone...
That he has decided to give JJ a little more time and will postpone until Thursday at 7:00.
Sorry, this is not Voltron!
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...MRX67 will post on a Talkback, maybe even dig through the archives and post on THIS Talkback, ...that the non-Voltron movie playing in theaters is "just another attempt by JJ to conceal the REAL Voltron movie he made, and is playing in "secret theaters" ...and when the actual Voltron movie comes out, he'll claim THAT is also part of the conspiracy... a "fake" Multi-million dollar Voltron movie with toys and happy meals, etc... all to throw us non-believers off the track of the REAL JJ Abrams Voltron movie only the worthy will be allowed to see...
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1. the trailer 2. the j.j. abrams email 3. 1-18-08.com 4. the slusho website seems to be official.
devices, voltron, lovecraft, etc. are all kind of sketchy to me. i am patient, and i will wait for j.j. abrams to drop a clue. he won't let comic con go by without alluding to something. i would be surprised if he didn't address the trailer at all. -
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I completely agree. Good list.
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i know when my leg is being pulled, i understand what the deal is. even though it is a big joke or whatever, i still maintain that everyone slam this trog. there's nothing better to do. no clues until j.j. abrams and crew put them out there , so if i have some fun destroying voltron theorists then what's the harm? it keeps the thread alive while we wait for real clues.anyone agree?
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No one gives a shit about the inane ramblings of the Time Cop/ Meter maid/ super trooper/ police academy reject. I'm tired of your passive agressive trolling. No one believe this movie is about Votltron, Cthulu, or Godzilla. So get over yourself. Your peon and unless you live in Mayberry I feel sorry for ever you charged to serve and protect.
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sp Cor.
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that silly bitch doesn't know jack about shit.
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that silly bitch doesn't know jack about shit.
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the dark knight, 1-18-08( or whatever j.j. abrams and crew name it. just my fucking luck they will call it voltron), star trek. also a new season of lost. i am looking forward to all of those.
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The time is short.
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Alot of people had pretty high hopes for this year, I mean, come-on, we were getting a Spiderman movie with Venom, a new Die Hard that was going to kick ass, and the Silver Surfer was coming to the big screen... Then the movies came out, and not everyone was Blown Away (which is a pretty good movie, "He can make a bomb out of Bisquick"), so I hope the movies next year will kick ass (I'm pretty sure on the DK), and I hope Lost doesn't disappoint.That being said, I'm outta here for awhile, but I bet that either MRX will continue his Voltron chant, and Dietrich will keep going on and on about his vibrator.
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flopped at the box office, but i loved that movie. silver surfer was good to me. galactus let me down though. i had high hopes, but maybe they will explore galactus and the origin of the surfer in the spin off. i could give a shit about die hard. i hate segal, van-damme type hollywood bullshit. i would rather watch flies fuck or grass grow than waste my time with studio cookie cutter action films. i did like mi3, but i'm sure everyone can guess why. it's alive and j.j. abrams has not commented on a "device" yet.
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I haven't read a post from MRX for a few days now...it's more fun to just read the responses.
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i wish this film could be a galactus movie. i KNOW it isn't galactus, that would be absurd. for some reason, a few voltron fans are hoping the trailer is a voltron teaser. if you are convinced it is voltron, you are foolish. only a jokester or a "challenged" mind would think this is a voltron film. maybe it's a dune sandworm exacting vengeance on frank herbert's offspring for leeching off of his legacy by writing new dune titles that they can cash in on.
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go back and read some of his posts that you missed and you will laugh even more at the responses. to understand the humor of the responses, you should read his mind numbing posts. i invite you to slam his posts with me. it is too much fun.
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j.j. abrams makes a comment about this being voltron in a tongue in cheek kind of way. god, i wish that he would be like" my informants on aicn have told me that an online sleuth named mrx67 has cracked the plot of my new film wide open. he must be silenced." i know he won't say that shit, but it would be funny as hell. if j.j. does read some of these posts, then maybe he will at least dispell voltron officially. that would make me happy.
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if JJ said something like that about MRX. However, it would also give MRX more attention than I think (s)he can handle.
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the detective-yoda-farva from super troopers-college degree expert-voltron informant etc. cool, maybe he is done for good. he has a lot of phone calls to make to high priority double-o's that are deep cover inside of the bad robot nerve center.
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http://icydk.com/2007/07/23/1-18-08-now-titled-monstrous/
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other than the fourth picture. i am pretty sure that nothing else has been found that is truly relevant. just speculation. comic con is this weekend. j.j. abrams and crew will be there. where is the rebel base? all work and no play makes jack a dull boy.exterminate!exterminate!exterminate!
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that's an interesting angle. it makes sense i guess. fuck it, let's ignore her. i agree with the earlier posts. she will go away. cool, no more voltron. that was easy.
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her newest mug shot. she looks dishoveled, but i still find her to be hot. maybe even more so. i must be getting bored.
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tradition, so that theory is off. I do like the idea of the three roars being 3 different monsters. Although they all sound the same to me.
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maybe she needs a cosmetic DEVICE to check her face out with.
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did i spell relief correctly? damn, i need to spellcheck that.
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Just curious.
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I made a couple of comments about it in different talkbacks trying to stay more-or-less on topic. But it was a pile of garbage and it was exactly what I thought it would be after reading the POS script and following the production. I actually thought Vern's rant was right on upon reflection. It's pure trash.
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but that was pretty much my topic. I have thank Yackbacker though for actually letting go into the movie without a chip on shoulder But by the end of the movie the Chip had been put back on and knocked off so many times it was rediculous.
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why does the fact that Ziz is not in the bible make any difference? I agree the theory is a long shot, I just don't see what difference it makes.
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Sorry its time for my government issued luch break.
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making a point that Ziz is not found in the Bible. So it would be based on Jewish tradition. Also, their theory that the Slusho.jp site reflects this theme is not very strong. There are more than 3 animals on the Slusho site, and they do not all reflect Zin, Behemoth and Leviathan. I continue to believe it is heavily Cthulhu influenced, with perhaps some Biblical elements which are already present in the Cthulhu mythos to being with. Cthulhu is associated with Dagon.
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is that you never really see the monster...things crash around, and you get a glimpse of this or that, but there is no reveal. I'm not saying I'm happy about that, but the supposed budget, combined with Abrams pension for, shall we say, leaving loose ends? plus the camcorder angle? I don't know.on the other hand, something large enough to rip the head off the statue of liberty and toss it around? to make the earth shake miles away?and the explosion? it has to be something truly gigantic.
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of it being three different monsters is interesting. One in the ocean, one in the air, one on land. I would be fine if they never had a big reveal, I'd want it to be as tension filled as possible.
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what I wrote above, really. What is there to go into? I just thought they dumbed the whole thing down to excruciating levels and there were maybe a couple of seconds of fun in there for me. I also didn't like how they vulgarized the Autobots.
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thing anyway you could not get the whole thing in a cam frame if it were that big. I would imagine anyway - you'd have to be pretty far away to get the whole thing in.
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seeing as how we are stuck watching the movie from the aspect of your average pedestrian I dont we'll even get a in depth explanation of what the monster are or where they come from think about it Unless "Rob" or his "Main Dude" are Theology major's none of them will have clue what is going on. and the only way anyone will get any info is Dawn of dead style news broadcasts. As for seeing the monster I think Footage will be blurry at best. And I promise someones kicking that Map in the fucking lake.
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So that's roughly 15 million dollars but will probably be more. How much FX does 15 million buy you these days?
Here is a link to a viral ad that Levis did that was shot in my home city of Reykjavik. It's made to look like it was shot on small video cameras and camera phones with a CGI marionette intergrated supperbly in to it. I assume from what I've read that the film will look pretty much like this.
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forget the conspiracy character with all the secret knowledge in movies of this sort now. However, I really like the idea of CGI being used in this way.
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There are four differnt animals on the the first page - if the horse is the behemoth, the duck Ziz, and Fish leviathan then who does mr. Frog represent?
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With all this hoopla, this movie better be worth it, becasue it's starting to see to me a bit like the Pied Piped. A few notes, and we run scampering to follow. Don't get me wrong, I'm REALLY interested to see what's what. The 'Monstrous' idea is pretty cool, (personally, Cthulhu is what Im hoping for.) So far it seems to be a bit on the original side. As far as the Voltron thing, I'd hope that they would make that up on par with Transformers, tech wise. If I may add a note, Slushozoom.com seems to be a related site. (IMO) Lord help us if its another Gozilla!
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A 30-mil budget won't buy you anything but a basic indy-style film. For the type of buzz this film has generated, it will only disappoint if that's the case. Say what you want, if the monster isn't seen (as in Blair Witch), and it isn't seen smashing shit up, you can count on bad reviews and no box office. In fact, it will probably stop the ranting on this blog if it sucks as bad as this could at that price. Maybe I should be looking forward to it. Go, JJ!
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The French...they want their statue back.
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With such a low budget it will make most likely double it's budget the first weekend. It's going to be huge.
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That was funny You can tell its not french though (No white flags of surrender)
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The monster/witch, but if your' subject happens to be over 150 feet tall, and rips the head off Lady Liberty, then we should at best get a blurry image of whatever it is, albeit without showing its whole body.Yeah, know I've always wondered why we couldn't have gotten a few frames of something at the end of Blair Witch, I mean if they dropped the camera just at a different angle, they could have had just a fifth of the screen show some sorta billowing cloth or... something for like half a second. Like in Behind the Mask, where you see that guy with the hockey mask go into the restaurant, it wasn't obvious, in fact I had to slow it down on DVD to get a good look at it...I'm just saying we better damn well get to see a monster, because if all we get is "Oh, no! It's coming around the corner!", followed by falling debris and no monster, then I'm going to punch J.J. in the throat, or just be angry/sad/sullen.
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What's up with that? How can the sound of the "monster" and explosion reach the party, clearly what looks like a mile or two away before the light does? So much for realism. JJ Abrams Sucks!
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I hope you're joking...you don't actually think the roaring sound they heard came from the explosion that happened 5 minutes later....right?
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something undefined like the giant monster on ffx(sin)its just there and not realy describeable thats what i think is gonna happen people are gonna see it and go oh thats what it was hmm i bee damned i can die now ahhh
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I dont think We'll be able to tell if its huge or not till we the the press Biz the only ones talking about this film is us film nerds and as SOAP has proven we dont have power to make anything huge. Now if that 30 mil includes marketing and 15 million spent on effects and another lets say 10 million spent on cast & crew and misc. that leave 5 for marketing which doesn't spell marketing bonanza, then theres the news that this filmed all Blair witch style which I tell you left a bad taste in my mouth. JJ Name alone will give you 30 mil but the advertising is going to dictate the numbers here in the states. and with a 30 mil budget something tells me there wont be a international simultaneous release.
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Are kind of like cartoon physics. In the real world, assuming the explosion was 1 mile away, it would take nealy 5 seconds before you would hear the sound.
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with the explosions and shit? it can't just be a big sea monster that happens to shoot fireballs. I mean come on...aliens come down, fuck up NY and maybe other places, the military fights them off. during all of this, Rob and his friends scramble around on the streets trying to get away, all the while filming. in the end, Rob and his main lady live but his main friend dies. you heard it here first! lol...I'm just interested to know more...I don't really know what of substance Abrams can reveal at Comic Con though...a few posters, MAYBE a title...unless there's another short clip, or some specific info, we're gonna be stuck right where we are.on the other hand, if he does tell all, and answer all the questions, then what was the point of this viral campaign? just to test the waters for future films?I guess we'll find out in a few days. I am looking forward to tomorrow at 6pm, though... ;o)
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I've been reading through the post and was wondering if anyone thought of it being a Rampage Movie. Based on the Video Game. I heard some rumors going around that this might be made into a full length movie. Any thoughts?
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Don't get me wrong, I think the movie looks interesting (so far). I'm just saying that the budget, like the subject, is probably just as big a mystery. I bet even now the budget will exceed what we've been told...it has to.
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Let's be real...If it was any of the above, you'd expect to see toys and bunches of merchandise for all us 'kids at heart' to waste their hard-earned cash on. I don't think we're going to see a thing, because it's none of those. Which sucks, because I like to buy useless shit.
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slusho.jp represent evolutionary clades. That is my theory anyway.
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come from the stars. Metaphysical monsters can shoot fireballs.
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Has anyone looked up the Trademarks for Slusho yet?
I found several like this:
Word Mark SLUSHO! YOU CAN'T DRINK JUST SIX.
Goods and Services IC 025. US 022 039. G & S: clothing, t-shirts, hats and caps, clothing accessories
Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS
Design Search Code 01.15.25 - Coal; Dust; Light rays; Liquids, spilling; Pouring liquids; Sand; Spilling liquids
08.09.25 - Other frozen confections and ice
11.03.01 - Glasses without stems
Serial Number 77229623
Filing Date July 13, 2007
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Bold Futura, LLC LTD LIAB CO CALIFORNIA 1223 Wilshire Boulevard #1422 Santa Monica CALIFORNIA 90403
Attorney of Record Lori N. Boatright
Description of Mark The applicant claims color as a feature of the mark, namely, blue, red, white, grey, green. The mark consists of the words SLUSHO! in blue, the words You Can't Drink Just Six. in grey, a red and white striped cup with blue drink and a green starburst background.
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE
I then looked up the LLC records for Bold Futura and found this:
LP/LLC
BOLD FUTURA, LLC
Number: 200719210118 Date Filed: 7/10/2007 Status: active
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Address
1925 CENTURY PK E. 22ND FLR.
LOS ANGELES, CA 90067
Agent for Service of Process
PARACORP INCORPORATED (C1082536)
ParaCorp = Paramount?
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Not sure how the whois thing works, but if it was registered on june 6, wouldnt that come close to ruling out fake info?
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What if the explosion was caused by the military?I doubt it, but it seemed almost as if the explosion was caused by something rising from the ground, and sounded like a whale.And what if the world ends on Jan. 1st 2008, and we will never know what in the hell it is?
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'Cause it is way past five.
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I remember reading an article about a week ago. Someone told an interviewer that the biggest clues from the trailer were, the monsters roar, and the line, "i saw it, its alive, its huge". I think it was the story that was said to have been ripped off from aicn.
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in one of the pics on 1-18-08. It's just that I would be kinda disappointed.
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are monsters sweet giant monsters! And the supposed new name is "Monstrous", right?
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Or giant Ambiguous monsters with only visable appendages.
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brother...EVERYONE likes nachos!!and I've never worn a visor in my life, but I might start. that could be a good look for me.due to a lack of nachos, my dinner tonight is fettucini alfredo with rosemary chicken, and a bottle of sauvignon blanc...mmmmmm
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Where is that explosion happening? Ground Zero!!! too soon for me.
On the roof, judging from the angel of the Woolworth building they are not on Broadway! They are further east. Flaming death starts raining down on them hitting buildings and the street. When they emerge on the street they are on Broadway!!! No debris, no craters, and no dust cloud, nothing from the death that just missed them on the roof. Then the guy that saw “it”, survived the explosion at Ground Zero and ran 13+ blocks down Broadway to tell us it’s “alive” and “huge”. Isn’t January the middle of winter? Where is the snow? Not even a cold breath from the girls in the strapy dress’ on the roof and street, who must have left their coats inside in all the commotion. Then the SOL head, it came down the center of Broadway. No matter what dummywood does to NY, we all know what a disaster in New York looks like!!! So unless the SOL’s head was filled with jet fuel it will not explode when it hits a building!!!
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So something that is alive and huge and roars starts of at the SOL, if it came by sea, it decided to skip lower New York and Jersey. It rips the head of the SOL, takes it to JFK to fills it with jet fuel, goes to ground zero to cause an explosion, then tipy-toes over to Broadway and tosses the SOL head. So if each one of these things comes from an egg. Then what laying these eggs?
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this guy has like 5 videos analyzing the trailer and websites assumed to be associated with this film. everyone should check him out
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look at the trailer.
"So if each one of these things comes from an egg. Then what’s laying these eggs?"
applying common movie sci-fi
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i should take one of your geek cards.
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accompanied by an earthquake, the second by the explosion and the third by the thrown statue head. Are they all different parts of the city or is it a progression? It seems like from people's comments they are three different locations. You don't get the sense that a great deal of time passes between the events.
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That seems to work for a lot of people.
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Yeah, I've tried it. If you like pre-dressed beers, try Tequiza, it has more flavor.As for me, I took Wonka's advice and plan on trying a good drink with Vox, haven't started yet.I got tip for selling scripts, two things, (1): cup the balls, (2): make sure you stroke the shaft.It is kinda weird how many people will buy the same scripts for $50, everytime I show it to them, and yet its like they don't remember reading it.
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I watched the Trailer again last night and the SOL head does not explode it land and skids to a stop in the middle of the street.
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Reminds me of a joke I once heard. It starts with "So, a seal walks into a club..."
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The 3 monsters thing is very interesting, and sounds like a great idea for a movie. I just don't think that's the case here, though. With the "Blair Witch" POV, I don't see that the movie has the scope (or budget) to give proper attention to the idea, unless the movie itself is told from a "Signs" perspective, just dealing with the tribulations of a small group of people while the world ends around them. OTOH, I hope there's a plausible explanation for NYC being attacked - once again - by a giant monster.
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maybe there was a huge gas leak at 301 broadway
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I love that one, especially the look on people's faces.
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when a big pile of copper and steel hit the building!!!!
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earthquake is the creature emerging from the ocean and making the plates shift because of its mass. The explosion is the previously mentioned oil tanker hitting the shore when the water is displaced as it is moved inland. It attacks the Statue of Liberty (either on purpose or because it feels threatened) and carries its head inland, finally tossing it away deeper into the city.
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Since it seems to be coming towards them?
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the explosion happens at Ground Zero
the there is a huge explosion when the SOL head hits 301 broadway.
ya, its just a movie trailer.
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Who the hell says "main dude?"
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"Her deliciousness made her loved throughout many towns and villages"
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"Her deliciousness made her loved throughout many towns and villages"
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horsifishfroduk come back to find him after all these years.
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horsifishfroduk come back to find him after all these years.
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a delicious steel reserve 211 instead of
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a delicious steel reserve 211 instead of your nasty beers
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people buying your script or not depends on quality of writing and marketability (read: will it make money?)but that, you have control of sitting in your apartment in front of your computer...the real trick is getting people to actually read it...and from Arizona, that's pretty tough, unless you have an agent in LA...I'll let you know if I have any control over small parts in the film, but it ain't shooting til early next year anyway...
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you gotta love meta humor. A priest, a Rabbi and a horse walk into a bar, and the horse says "Hey I think I'm in the wrong joke!".
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Abrams is my hero right now for this engaging campaign. After years and years of some pretty terrible mainstream cinema, new ground is being broken. I feel that a more enlightened audience will be cultivated if filmmakers and writers continue to challenge themselves, and even the popcorn films will, while of course being fun and entertaining, also be crafted with the idea of proliferating this responsibility. Hopefully, we will reach a point where films like Star Wars 1-3 will be rejected and considered insulting to the masses. Just my 2 pennies, and yes, that is only MY opinion.
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I've been reading the Slusho History over again, and the translations are sooo bad. Check out Engrish.com, some of the most simple sayings are butchered, and 'lost in translation'.
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Reading back over Slusho's history, one line keeps ringing toward Cthulhu. "Because the ingredient was discovered on the deep ocean floor, under amazing pressure, and in the most extreme cold... " Wiki "R'lyeh" and notice where the location is supposed to be. If you just back to the Cthulhu Mythos as well, it discusses the elemental aspect of the Mythos. As far as the R'lyeh goes, there is also a mention of the 'bloop' sound. Much like the one that shook the city. Remember the Slushozoom site? when you CTRL A the whole page, you get a few extra lines there. One is, 'Extinct does not always mean dead.' and 'The meek shall not inherit the earth.' Cryptic, yes, but very Lovecraftian. HP always wanted writers to write about the Mythos, and not just elude to them. So much in favor of squid head...
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slushozoom.com is fake... i.e. created by a random guy. For one the site looks like shit, and for two everything in the whois says its not official. So anything you get from that is bs.
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Way to point out all the mistakes in the trailer. I really hoping you aren't making them out to be clues.
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Remember also, this trailer....MAY have been shot prior to any REAL film production began. OR it MAY or MAY not be in the film at all as seen in the teaser. HENCE it being a teaser NOT a trailer.
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A device is found.
Don't dig too deep.
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Voltron script is a shit taco.
Of course this film that vexes us so is not Voltron, but I do fucking love the super robo genre and read the script. All I have to say is it is awful. If it gets made, it is a tragedy on a GINO scale! I guess what they are doing in this shity treatment might actually work for Vehical Voltron, but if ITS A LION version you will be soooooo bummed.
I dont want to get into the details, but lets just say that Voltron is made of spare parts found in the wreckage of NY.
Whoever wrote that shit should be kicked in the head, twice. Voltron is a space opera. His design should be florished, ornamental, royal alien technology like in Lynch's DUNE.
BTW: If Slusho is Leviathan, I still think that is quite Lovecraftian since the Bible is taking it's inspiration from SUMERIA as did Lovecraft.
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:::::The inner voice of Dietrich::::And I typed that with one hand.'cause (I'm speaking as Dietrich) am the Marlene Dietrich.And I love digging deep.
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Thanks The Dum Guy, you know how to flatter a person.
I will not deny a connection, only in history, to Marlene. Is that maybe another puzzle?
I'll make it easier for you, since 99% of this particular tb crowd has a tough time with clues, puzzles, hints, teasers, riddles and what have you or have you not.
Remember when Marlene Dietrich walked out on her Paramount contract?
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If Biblical/Jewish connections are true, and that the Freemasons maybe involved, and Marlene Dietrich is a clue, then that would lead only to the Nazis, who has had a direct influence on all of those things, i.e. they killed Jews, the went against Christian ideals, the killed Freemasons as well, and they weren't too happy with Marlene Dietrich...A device the German's dug up from land/sea or a device they made???No, that's not it, this is in fact a parrellel universe from the Star Trek universe, and this is an alternate version of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, and the explosion is from the Enterprise crashing to Earth, but before that happens they let go of the whales they have, thus causing the high frequency whale yell for "Fuck! I'm falling!"1-18-08The new Star Trek is a remake, and the device is J.J. Abrams......because he is a TOOL....
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http://tinyurl.com/2hkxc7
Something to pass the time and for you to enjoy.
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I don't think the people in this TB are faulty when it comes to their puzzle skills. I just think that they doubt your veracity and, therefore, do not syntesize your clues with their overall conception of the facts. There has been progress made in small steps, but not really because of anything you supplied, and as I said earlier, you just make vast generalizations and reword things so they retrofit what is being revealed. Also, if you are with the film, can't you understand how anonymity leads most people to speculate that you are just a smart kid having some fun? If you are part of the campaign, then why, at this point, haven't you ben able to convince the collective of that?
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He may be even more bored that the rest of us.
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A device is found in your ass dude.
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I see a truck traveling down a dark country road, it is slightly drizzling, there are houses to the left of the truck around a quarter mile, or so, off into the distance. There are a few lights on in one of the houses, and there is a fence with horses corralled inside of it.The truck stops suddenly, and you can tell that the color of the truck is glossy-black, with rust stains on it in places. The truck parks in the middle of the road, and the driver stumbles out, coughing loudly, until they vomit onto the street. Retching, for a moment, until from inside the cab, they hear the beginning of Mr. Tambourine Man, sung by The Byrds. They put down the joint of marijuana that they are holding in their right hand, and they begin laughing...They laugh until they realize what they are,, a device,, a tool, and from that moment on they will only be able to tell of the TOOL, and make inane mutterings that only they could fathom, based on that chilly, rain swept, night of their own abyss of realization.
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Proclamation of association is not advised.
Imagine if there was a possibility.
Imagine there not.
It's not a difference made to me either way I'm resolved.
Being or not being part of an organization is or is not satisfying.
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Word after word, every one by itself, must the things that are spoken be conceived and understood; and so the things that are done, purpose after purpose, every one by itself likewise. And as in matter of purposes and actions, we must presently see what is the proper use and relation of every one; so of words must we be as ready, to consider of every one what is the true meaning, and signification of it according to truth and nature, however it be taken in common use. -
BurningSoul could be onto something there: unnatural warmth in NY midwinter; Slusho mystery ingredient found "in the most extreme cold". Does melting Arctic ice release an unnamed horror? The Day After Tomorrow but with a bloody big monster.
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... to be explored by science.
Diet cola = bad for your heart
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Cez't La Vie.
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The problem is, your general statements and nebulous quotes from varying authors can be retrofitted to apply to ANY of the concepts offered as guesses. Much the way astrology and psychics work, you will be able to justify yourself so long as the information is as murky as possible. If you are part of the marketing effort, whats the point?
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Is there more to all of this than what is allegedly known?
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Dietrich and other like him realize it takes a LONG-TERM VIEW, not a week- or month-long view. They realize great things take time to evolve, to build.
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It can only be one of 2 things. 1) your Lithium or 2) A device. You think it's a device, don't you? you fucking genius, you.
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This could have all been avoided. As his friend acknowledges on the roof. Rob must hold the key. (all speculation of course)
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...Dietrich went to rescue the Queen Virginal of Tyrol from a heathen king. Not only did Dietrich slays the heathen king, he had to fight a number of giants and dragons before he succeed his quest...
everything = everything
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I still think that any religious significance will be minimal. All this Freemason and Revelation stuff sounds cool in a talkback, but it would take 5 movies to make it anything but a jumbled mess.
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Some are wise others stumble.
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Come on SHERLOCK enlighten us with your powers of deduction!!! "Got to go to work" I think you meant school!! MRX67 AS I SAID BEFORE IS A NUMPTY - COP, MY ARSE!!! MRX67 sucks a BIG one!! Hahahhahahhaha
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Harry and Moriarty def. know more then they are telling. Why else would AICN have resurrected this thread and stationed it where they did?
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It's wonderful lore.
Enough to brick a film off of.
Ask yourself and others, does it relate to the film or the viral marketing team? They have done it before, the grout is dry.
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Placement = ad revenue.
It's a streaming thread of melting glacial ice. Ice = dollars.
I'd do the same. A thread with as many consistent views and posts as this = money in the bank.
AICN $ pays for honeymoons and more.
wink wink
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Ok, I submit to the point. No arguing with that.
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I can't believe people think dietrich is involved with this film. I must have missed the post where he claimed this... I have been reading the posts and nothing Dietrich has ever said was something new or enlightening. I just treat him like a fly and brush him aside. I suggest you do the same.
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No one give a shit about your upcoming Retarded Manifesto. Go back to patroling mayberry cause no one is rading or believing your BS. so shove that shit.
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Just so we can have a good laugh at the end. "Investigating is his job" haha - let the merryment commence!!!
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I can't believe enough people exist to accomodate a Voltron movie. Even your description sounds really really lame. Its Voltron, I can't even remember hardly anyone liking it when it was new.
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The "Monstorous" poster PROVES that it`s Voltron.......because Voltron is MONSTOROUSLY AWESOME!!!!
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"Buy all their playsets and toys!"
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Now if they had the sack to make a movie based off a Marvel comics monster just fucking up shit, JJ would get my money.
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what are you, 14?
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You know, you guys keep talking about how it could be Voltron, Chtulhu or whatever else it is, but I've come to think of a theory, which has probably been already posted on these boards or somewhere else, I'm sure I'm not the first...
My theory is, there is no monster, or atleast, we never get to see it, it's gonna be more of a psychollogical thing if anything... if you guys remember, we didn't see the witch this the last few shots in Blair Witch... scared the hell out of me too... You guys are getting too much into thinking about the details of the monster, when I'm sure this'll be one of those stories that tell you how the general public would react to such a thing, with minimal damage and destruction showed... after all, how can you do a big monster movie on a measley 30 mil$ budget... unless you break out the old gozilla rubber suit, don't bet on too much work with CGI for a monster... didn't Optimus Prime cost roughly around 20 mil$ + to make for the Transformers movie? I could be wrong, but I know he was expensive... anyways, those are my 2 cents... it's a monster movie, but it axes on how we would try to survive... -
What a complete load of rubbish, you obviously dont have a writing degree like Mr Wonka - thats the biggest load of shite I have ever read.. And you claim to be a COP!! hahahahaa I LOVE A BIT OF COMEDY!!
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MORE LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD TO GO TO BED!!!!
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He reminds me so much of those geeky little twats from school. I suspect you're right with the sent to bed remark
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He's exactly like someone I knew at school, sputtering little dink who I believe actually became a cop. Somehow.Stobirski, you twonk.
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Oh this guy is classic! His ramblings are utter shite! He never answers questions or he answers them with a question! Failing that he'll just resort to an insult. This one claims to be an officer of the law - hes a joke! Check back the talkback when I called him out, he asked how i came up with my username and gave an analysis on me. Yeah hes a classic text book twat - between now and six tomorrow he will be thinking of an idea as to how he cant finish his theory because JJ Abrams has had him marked for death if he blags!!!
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...You mean, he worships Kali, and garrots victims to appease her and stave off the Kali Yuga? ...or do you mean "thug" like Tupac? Wonka asked nice that I shouldn't mention his real name any more on the TBs, (even though that's shutting the barn door after the cow get's out) and I will respect his wishes... but, I don't think he'll mind if I point out that based on his photo and bits of his music I've heard, that Wonka is in fact one of the whitest men in America.
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everyone seems to have forgotten that around 5 days ago he accepted that his Voltron theories had been debunked.All of a sudden he's back spouting it again.I am convinced he's only about 14.As for Deitrich...
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For the past two days, they've been filming scenes for Cloverfield in Downey, CA. Contact me if you want me to go and investigate.
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...remind me a lot of the late 80's science fiction "mosaic novel" series Wild Cards. Specifically the second volume: Aces High. The plot concerned an evil scheme put forward by a group of Freemasons (actually a weird splinter group The Egyptian Freemasons founded by Guiseppe Balsamo aka Cagliostro... this group is also associated with the Iluminati and Aleister Crowley) to summon the ancient monster Tiamat to earth to bring about Death, Destruction, and Conquest. Tiamat (Leviathan, Cthulhu, etc.) turns out to be an alien race called The Swarm, shape-changing aliens who in myriads of giant monster forms devour all life on a planet and spread their spores on to the next... The Egyptian Masons are trying to create a device... The Shakti device... revealed to Basalmo by a "shining apparition". This device would summon "Tiamat". An alien spy among them already has this device, an alien artifact, that is in fact, round. Ultimately, after earth's heroes defeat the Freemasons and the alien menace... it is revealed that the "shining brother" was amember of an intergalactic cartel interested in economic colonialism... the plan was that their Trade Federation would come swooping to earth's rescue, and placing earth in their debt would then exploit us for their uber-capitalist gains. They did not forsee that earth's heroes could defeat the beasts themselves... The point is though, in this relatively obscure novel we have: 1. Freemasons 2. Giant alien monsters 3. a round device We already know that JJ Abrams has stated emphatically that this film is not based on any previous work. Therefore 1-18-08 has nothing to do with Wild Cards vol. 2 Aces High. Rather, I conclude that Dietrich must have read this book, and is using some of its plot DEVICES to try to make it seem like he knows something. Dietrich = MRX67 with a better vocabulary.
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This is all part of the fun, nobody is meant to actually solve all the clues, wheres the fun in the big reveal at comic-con or the official trailer or whatever IF EVERBODY ALREADY KNOWS!!!
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I did start to dig around, the trailer had me exactly were it wanted me to be (curious and damn excited) but then realized that this was either extremely difficult or impossible. Some of the ideas people were throwing around were hysterical and also ludicrous (mrx67)! "I saw it, its a lion, Its huge" - "I saw it, its Brian, Its huge" - who gives a toss! Now Moriaty already told us its NOT pissin VOLfuckinTRON, could he afford to lie and lose all credibility and ruin the good that is AICN, I think not!! So my message to everyone is to not get too involved and enjoy the ride!!
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make a movie. I for one would watch it with total interest. Giant robot animals fighting in New York all while being filmed by a handi-cam! Brilliant!
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Perhaps he could do it for his next homework assignment!!!
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Judging from your previous posts, I think we have a similar form of humor and views on stuff (like voltron and LiLo). Keep up the good work!
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I know someone nust have already looked into this, but I decided to check it out.
The 1-18-08.com site currently has 4 pics with randoms times between 12:01am and 1:24 am. Did some google bible research:
Romans 12:1
I urge you to
present your bodies
Matthew 12:36
But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment.
John 12:48
He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.
Gen 1:24
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
What do you guys think? Maybe a little more apocalyptic than Voltron?
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... Leviathan, Behemoth, Ziz. These apocalyptic Beasts of Jewish Legend may be more likely in a film from a man named Abrams than the Christian Beasts that epevensie has so thoughtfully explored in his lengthy posts. That being said, Abrams denies any connections with established mythologies and St. John was likely to have had Leviathan and Behemoth in mind when he described his Megatherions in the Book of Revelation as a Beast from Water and a Beast from Land. St. John also added the Dragon, Satan, the Prince of the Powers of the Air. Also in Revelation there are the Tetramorphs, first described in the Old Testament (Jewish) book of Ezekiel as Cherubim: a Lion, an Ox, an Eagle and a Man who surround the Throne of God and eternally sing His praises. The Roman Catholic Church had already assigned the pagan iconography of Putti (Cupids) to the Cherubim and so made the Four Creatures into symbols of Sts. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. (thus forcing a scriptural endorsement of only four accepted Gospels, eliminating any other Gospel that didn't support their views) In Norse mythology the Beast from Land is Fenris Wolf who devours Odin on the Day of Ragnarok, the Beast from Water, the Midgard Serpent devours Thor. In China, there is the Blue Dragon of the East (water), the White Tiger of the West (metal), the Red Phoenix of the South (fire), the Dark Warrior of the North (wood) and in the centre the Yellow Emperor who rules the Earth. In ancient Annam (modern day Vietnam) all five were transformed into tigers while keeping their colours and associations with elements and cardinal directions. In Anton LeVey's version of Satanism he assigned Four Devils to represent the Cardinal directions and elements: Lucifer (air, east), Leviathan (water, west), Satan (fire, south) and Belial (earth, north). The Mythos established by Lovecraft and expounded upon by Derleth, Smith, Long, Bloch, etc. has Cthulhu (water), Hastur (air), Shub-Niggurath (earth) and Cthuga (fire). Japanese kaiju films are all about Beasts from Water, Earth, Air and Fire. Do I really need to continue with Greco-Roman Typhons and Echidnas, Sumerian Tiamats, Australian Bunyips, etc. etc. etc.? We are dealing with archetypes here. There is a universal concept throughout all human tradition of Great Beasts from Water, Earth, and Air that represent Catastrophe. Why? because of race memory. Instinct. Way back when we were small furry mammals hiding in the trees the three things that we feared were: 1. The big cat that would hunt us on land and eat us. 2. The big reptile that would catch us in the water and drag us under. 3. the big bird that would swoop down from the air and carry us away in its talons. These ancient ancestral fears linger on in the most primative part of our brains and become the Beasts of Legend.
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Back to the straight and narrow.
1) It's a monster attacking New York. A totally NEW monster.
2) There is aftermath, those cleaning up find the camera with the "story" on it.
3) It tears the head of the SOL and chucks it downtown.
4) The Military fights it.
5) According to the man on the street, he saw it, and "It's Alive! It's Huge!"
6) In posts above, Mr. Voltron has clearly stated that he does not REALLY THINK IT'S VOLTRON, he just likes to piss you idiots off.
7) You are reading way too much into all this.
8) All will be revealed in time.
9) "A seal walks into a club"...is good, but "A horse walks into a bar, bartender says why the long face?" is better.
10) I weep for the future.
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Just asking...also, the Joos control the media anyway, isn't about time they controlled ass kicking monsters too???
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Voltron script = doo doo.
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... the ancient Vietnamese version of the Five Elemental Creatures: Black Tiger, Blue Tiger, Red Tiger, White Tiger and Yellow Tiger correspond very closely to the five different coloured robotic lions from GoLion... ...or as it's known in the U.S., VOLTRON!
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Which awakens the Old Ones?
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1) Nothing is new. Nothing is original. Everything is based on something that has been done before. Shut up.
2) A "story" that can be about anything that can be caught on tape.
3 & 4) Mhmmm, Captain Obvious.
5) You might be right, but a lion can be huge and alive.
6) Oh, so that is proof that it's NOT voltron? Just because mr. retarded doesn't believe it anymore?
7) And who died and made you the expert?
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9) No, it's not.
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...but only if you've recently suffered severe brain trauma. It's funny how people like to point out the horse as a 'land animal' but not a water-breathing one. I just don't remember where in the Voltron cartoon this was.
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Really... is that so Socrates?
Since you are the most knowledge storyteller on the planet now please enlighten me as to where you studied so I learn to cram a keyboard up my but and type steam hot horse crap like you! "Who died and made you expert?" indeed!
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http://tinyurl.com/26v6ev
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Fish thinks of cheese, obviously a reference to the fact that fish is the only meat you can eat with dairy. Horse/donkey thinks of oven mitt: warning against eating non-kosher food, horses and donkeys chew cud BUT do not have cloven hooves. They are treif. The oven mitt is a reference to great calamity falling the Jewish people. Throughout the Tanakh we see G-d allowing calamities befall the Children of Israel whenever they failed to keep the Mitzvot. When Moshiach comes He will defeat Behemoth and Leviathan and the dead shall rise. But before that, Behemoth and Leviathan will cause great calamity, only by keeping the Mitzvot will the Jewish People bring about the coming of Moshiach. (Some Rabbis go so far as to say that if everybody in Israel can observe Shabbat completely and perfectly JUST ONCE, that Moshiach will immediately appear!) The Beast is obviously after Rob because he failed to keep Kosher by eating shrimp sushi (treif!) and breaking Shabbat with this party on 1-18-08, a FRIDAY NIGHT! (Shabbat starts at sundown on Friday). Likewise the Statue of Liberty is destroyed because it violates the prohibition against graven images. ZombieSolutions was on the right track... he just picked the wrong Magic Space God. You can eat meat on Friday, just make sure it's kosher! Shalom.
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Dear God! What are they fucking? Her eyes?
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can be loosely tied together having similar stories and features in human groups throughout man's history. It will be interesting to see what he comes up with or if it will just be all surface.
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...what I will come up with? Or what JJ abrams will come up with? All we have to go on right now is 1-18-08.com, slusho.jp, and MAYBE the Monstrous poster. All I, or anyone can come up with in the interim are conjectures and silly jokes. In my case often both at the same time!
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If it will have some kind of meaning or just pretty much be a straight monster film with some superficial trappings. I say the more arcane the better. As an illustration: will it be Alan Moore's From Hell or the Hughes Bros. From Hell? I think we'd all like a little more Alan Moore.
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When JohnDeaux writes "Let the flaming commence!" at the end of his post, I replied to him with the topic "JohnDeaux, I am too tired to flame, but I'll try...".
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in years, hell maybe ever.
In that film they mention the great monsters of the East, West, North, and South.
Often found decorating a fung shui compass.
The Turtle, Tiger, Dragon, and Phoenix.
Gamera is so fucking bad ass.
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The giant space rock crashes into NY. In it's path is the SoL, it carries it with it into space rock ground zero.
The velocity and size cause a "tremor"ish event.
Boom! Impact. Explosion(s)
Within the explosion the SoL is launched once more from where it was pressed upon the space rock.
It flys, It flys far.
No one is involved.
Slusho is part of the key that leads to the "device".
I've never read Wild Card, but I should, sounds interesting.
1-18-08
A device is found.
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does not properly convey this information. Moriarty already said whatever it is causes an oil tanker to explode. And this does not explain the roar that occurs BEFORE the earthquake and before the explosion.
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Is that hanging over the shoulder of the SOL in the poster??? Does anyone else see this??? Looks like an arm with a clawed hand.
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Think about it, all the people in the trailer are young, star trek is supposed to show Kirk and Spock in their younger days. there's some kind of explosion...things explode is star trek all the time. The trailer its shot with a handheld camera, Kirk used a hand phaser and the show was filmed on cameras. And most importantly, the posters say monstrous, but if you spell that backwards you get "sourtrnom", now say that fast and it sounds like pseudonym, which leaves now doubt that cloverfield is just another name for star trek...case closed.
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not a trailer.
Things are not as they would seem.
Information would not be given so freely. It's not a fluid scene.
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Dietrich says it is a device, while MRX says it is Voltron, while J.J. says that it isn't based on a existing franchise, the solution...Someone is not revealing the truth, unless J.J. has decided on making a film called Doltron, based on a device that creates larges lions to appear and fight giant robots that feel from the skys. In the ensuing battle, Jesus shows up pissed b/c it is way too soon for him to come back, so he gets his dad to raise the Leviathan to fight in this orgy of death. The Freemasons, fearing that their will for world domination will not go as planned, raises Cthulhu in order to bring the Elder God's wrath down upon mankind.This pisses off Jesus even more, so instead of going with the Apocalypse ahead of schedule, he gets his dad to do what Superman did in the first Superman, and turn back time, thus reversing everything that happened.But, here is the twist, one camcorder isn't affected by the time warp, and because of a shooty steam pipe, there is an explosion near where the camera is, and in the rubble (this is actually how the movie starts) a workman finds the camera and turns it on, and the ensuing alternate universe destruction is what we will see...Or not.
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scarring from having its head ripped off.
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not-roar? Hahah. Whatever.
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Like wow, you should wear a sign around your neck and hit the streets with a bell!
Maybe do some postering or stencils! Tell the world how behind this movie you are!
After Star Wars, and remakes like Godzilla, and Planet of the Apes, It is safe to say this:
excitement= Bitter disappointment
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register? Smile be happy because you are one funny wild crazy guy!
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High velocity plummeting mass.
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Theories gone wild.
RUMOR (outof)CONTROL, catch it as it happens, only on AICN.
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http://tinyurl.com/38b4ma
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either The Host 2 or a re-telling of The Incredible Mr. Limpet.
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Rob regrets not leaving.
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1-18-08 is still quite a ways away.
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Ever reading this fucking talkback.
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It's most likely reflections off the plastic covering the poster and its warping...but I see shit in the poster. Including a large BIRD! I gotta eat something...besides mushrooms!
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Doesn't anybody wonder why they say 05/22/2025 ???
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Looked freaky.
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MRX67, thanks a lot.
It's not Voltron.
obviously, MRX is trying to jump on posted validity posted by a valid poster.
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alleged ufo(s)
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Why can't everyone just ignore this asshole? Either he is fucking around, in which case has has way too much time on his hands, and who cares what he has to say anyway since it isn't funny anymore...at all...; or he is serious and seriously stupid, in which case who cares what he has to say since it's fucking retarded. Let's all just ignore him. Nice "Monstrous" poster, btw.
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MRX is the oxygen to our blood.
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'nuff said.
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I will respond to this one last post before ignoring you for the rest of my life: "Yes" is the answer to your question. For over a week I (along with countless others) have disputed and refuted virtually everthing you have said. In return, you simply repeated yourself...you didn't DEFEND your "theories", just REPEATED them. I don't think you realize that there's a difference, which is ironic, as you posted several statements along the lines of "I guess I see why so many people could vote for Bush...you're all so gullible". The irony, of course, is that continuous repetition of empty talking points is exactly how the Bush administration "defends" its numerous failed policies ("They hate is for our freedom", "They'll follow us home", "When they stand up, we'll stand down", "We need to stay the course", et al.), so once again you prove yourself to be very similar to a man whom I assume you dislike. Your newest batch of "evidence" consists of a bunch of stories that YOU MADE UP...so there's nothing to dispute there, as I don't really see the need to try to invalidate your imagination. Good for you that you have one and are creative...it is seeming more and more like you are probably a young kid, and I don't mean that as an insult: Many teenagers these days have absolutely no imagination and that makes me worry--I mean, who's going to step up in your generation and make great movies, tv shows, comics, etc.? So it does give me a bit of hope that there are passionate young people out there--people like you--who are creative and into this stuff. But don't confuse your own creativity with wisdom...and definitely don't confuse your own creations with facts. Now I'm done with you, so enjoy the rest of this TB, your life, and both this movie AND Voltron, whenever that one comes out, too.
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prove it.
We have no need to click through a teaser to find something that is not there.
So, please, for your own sanity or lack of, prove this through your click. Screenshot.
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Dude, really, have you read this whole thread? Nothing you are saying to MRX67 hasn't alreay been said. All you're doing is falling into his trap. I mean, more power to you if that's what you want to do, but too many of us messed with him for waaaaay too long if you ask me.
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there is no trap to be falling into.
we have a long way to go before TRUE information is released.
So what's the harm with MRX67?
It takes a genius to mark himself with the MRX67 retardation moniker and a imbecile to do it accidentally.
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Anyone who'd preach their own claims so diligently would be tripping over themselves to prove them. therefore, MRX, your claims are moot.
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...I had forgotten that the Dark Warrior of the North in Asian cosmoology is often figured as a Black Turtle. Thank you.
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There's no harm in it, really, and sorry if I came off as rude there. My point is just that we are ALL wasting time by being here, but at least we're wasting time trying to find out about a movie that certainly has the potential to be VERY cool. MRX67 is here to waste time by playing his little game, which he seems to think is clever, and to keep that going he needs people to respond to him. Just look at how he responded to my last post...I was trying to pay him a sincere compliment as I let him know I wouldn't be engaging him anymore, and instead of letting it go, he had to try and bait me into a continued debate about his "theories" on this movie by taunting me and saying that I must be "worried"...worried about nothing, since there's nothing to worry about. And on it goes. He's a child. If he isn't one physically, then he is one emotionally. Many have said repeatedly that if we all spent half the time looking for actual clues in the viral marketing that we spend telling MRX67 what an idiot he is (or is pretending to be), there would probably be no mystery at all at this point. So if you're having fun, do your thing. But don't confuse going back and forth with an annoying kid with having a serious dicussion about the possibilities of this movie. That's all.
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I guess he said I was getting "nervous", not "worried". Same difference.
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Now, many have said, and it is proven. MRX67 has been backed into a corner and all MRX67 can do is proclaim it as our duty to find MRX67's proof.
Saddly enough, that is the proof.
Proof that our fellow tb'r, MRX67, cannot support the wild idealology creates by one's own feeble mind.
We all know it's not Voltron. this much has been cemented.
MrX67's rants and raves and insults carry less than zero credibility. the fables of jj and voltron are but a coloring book.
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if Dietrich is correct and this will have elements relating to religious texts, freemasonry AND giant monsters, doesn't it seem like its going to be overstuffed and convoluted? Especially if ts filmed from such personal point of view? I will give this to Dietrich though, he doesnt lose his cool ,even when we try to rattle his cage. He doesnt take it personally.
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MrX is a punching bag.
His claims are futile and even HE cannot support them.
Therefore, the amusement is for us.
Watching him try to worm out of actual proof.
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...even Wonka who is a professional writer spelled bigot with two "g"s. But this time I feel really silly, cosmoology? Yeesh.
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MRX67 does not really belive that this is a Voltron film. He admitted to this in a previous post. He just loves to fuck with you. And General, you are doing a great job of letting him do it.
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I used to think he was entertaining, too. Trust me, you'll get sick of him...
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I have yet to proclaim it to involve religion or freemasonry. i have not disputed it either. I am not in a position to lay facts down.
Nor am I in a position to quarrel.
There is relation to PIKE but is it the film or the marketing? That I cannot say more than what I have already.
Religion will always play a certain position in any sort of disaster/alien/monster flick.
What are these connections?
Everything means anything, Anything means everything.
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...you guys seem to know about vodka. Somebody just gave me a big ass bottle of Polar Ice. This stuff any good?
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Or go away.
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Hey. I'm new to the talkbacks inasmuch that I never post to them, but after reading this ongoing clusterfuck for the last few-- weeks? years? Good God, how long has it been?-- I felt that it would be perfectly reasonable to take time out of my day to get an account, retrieve my password, and fill out this little form just to let MRX67 known: you're an enormous fucking douchebag, dude.
Okay, so, yeah. Thanks for reading, and I'll let you guys get back to doing what you do best.
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to? Also on the roof, one of the partygoers says something like "what kind of animal sounds like that?"
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I haven't been on this TB in about a week, and this is what it has become? Nice!
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... I would like to point out that I almost got this days ago... ...when I made the connection to Drew's Disneyland comment with Monstro the Whale from Pinocchio. Monstro - that's only two letters short!
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it's Thundercats
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Who are you referring too?
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Who are you referring too?
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Just read a comment from Greg Grunberg (Alias & Heroes), regarding his inclusion in this movie. He seemed to kind of indicate that the budget is low (his words: not astronomical). However, he seems to imply it will still be good. (aka: It could be better but it won't be.) I'll catch this one on DVD.
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i apperciate the earlier post about the trailer being a hoax or a grindhouse style fake preview. i think that would be so brilliant. it just makes sense to me. the idea of this being contrived or just a hoax makes me laugh my ass off. i think it would a perfect way just to fuck with peoples heads to pull off a scam like that. i know it's probably not a hoax, but i'm not ruling it out. i think j.j. abrams is really talented and i don't care what the movie's secret "monster" is, i will watch this new film regardless.it would be so p.t. barnum of him to say this trailer is a hoax. i think there are some unforseen clues about to drop. imminent. why stop now?
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my english skills are lacking today. i need a degree in writing. it does exist you know?
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...when he's scheduled to run his mouth at the Con? I see that Michael's coming back to LOST next season, so I'm hoping he'll get around to talking about that, too. Also, I think that the whole "Monstrous" poster thing may be a red herring.
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This is not only to MRX67, but also about him. Some of you say he's stupid because he thinks it's a Voltron movie. Voicing your opinion is his right, and no matter how unpopular his idea may be, he isn't stupid for voicing it. HOWEVER, arguing for a point without ANY proof and bashing anyone that tries to refute your claims IS stupid. MRX67, you tell us to look at the Statue of Liberty because it's a clue? Well thanks a lot for the NEW information. If it wasn't for you, I never would have noticed the SOL head smashing into the pavement that everyone's been talking about for weeks. This talkback is for an open exchange of ideas, and you'll freely rant and rave about how it's a Voltron movie, but when we ask for proof, you give us a vague-ass SOL answer and tell us to do the rest of the work ourselves? Put up or shut up Assclown.
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Ebay to find the Sword of Omens whose coordinates were accidentally imprinted on a candy wrapper from the candy factory of the great grandma of the stripper heroine. To be played by Lindsey Lohan.
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I would obviously shit myself to death in a geekgasm of fucking galactic proportions. Alas, this is not the Earth of my design and such things can't happen in this country or Japan. For the cult of WOTG is but a horde, and not a legion. I have imagined it often, I have dreamed white, red, and black Gargantua destroying the planet. It makes me happy and fills me with brilliant holy light.
BTW: how sure are you it's VOLTRON and not
Daltanias!!!
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hate mail. And lots of it.
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Illuminati on them. Abrams likes this kind of stuff.
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actually revealed something. Cryptic comments that provide no actual information don't qualify as revelation.
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well now that I've got an LA tan...
and also, I've got over 20 tattoos, that's at least a little thuggish, right?I'm starting to actually find MRX67 endearing. he is TOTALLY committed to this schtick. some of the things he's said...man...it's so appallingly stupid, the whole thing. and yet, he's still here! even after admitting he was wrong, then changing his story, then making ridiculously incorrect statements...it doesn't phase him. he's like a dog eating his own vomit!! it's a car wreck I can't look away from.the best part is that, as soon as there is undeniable confirmation that this is not Voltron (well, there already is...but I mean something even MRX67 can't deny), he'll simply come back and say he was joking the whole time and we all fell for it.but that's the BEST part of his schtick! think about it...will we ever be able to know for sure if he actually WAS joking? or if that was just a cop out when he was proven wrong. it's genius.MRX67 is the Andy Kaufman of barely literate, teenage AICN talkback posters... -
Also, If he did say "Lion" that indicates one lion. So maybe it is time to look at Voltron's uncle (who's mecha lion was way way way cooler than the Golion lions).
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Alias has Illuminati.
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When I get home and have a chance to look at the clip, I will. Thank you for sharing your information.
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I cannot wait to come back the day we all find out it's not Voltron at all, but just a random disaster/monster movie. It'll be sweet...
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my opinion.....
if someone posts something like:"i can't believe geeks think this mystery is cool" or, " you people need fresh air, you guys are so geeky spending too much time on here" or something like that, i am always laughing. if those posters are so above this thread, then why are they wasting time reading it and posting on it. i don't register and comment on their chess addiction website , so why are they doing it here. -
thanks for the kudos, and welcome...
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on their part and not only that, it's more pathetic because they are only engaging in petty bullying, and aren't even interested in the discussion.
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You guys are right on...
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Researchers can provide statistics and facts to substantiate their results.
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think about this; what if mrx67 really is some adult with a security job? could you imagine that? would this website not be the perfect place for someone like the zodiac to be trolling? if he were still alive and able, i'm sure he would post.just a random thought.
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All I'm gonna say is...street...that's it. I can't give up too much
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Standard? Pacific? I want to make sure I'm not furiously masturbating to WHO'S THE BOSS when you make your big reveal, MX.
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...(that will probably end up with spaces in it, oh well.) You say you don't want some of these yahoos knowing your real name, so I try to throw them off with "whitest man in America". ...and you come back by listing identifiable marks! If you don't want people to figure out that you're really Dog the Bounty Hunter, you're going to have to do better than that! OOPS!!! Damn! Sorry Dog, I gave it away...
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"I gave you guys the Voltron connection this morning. You will have to scroll up."
WTF??? You didn't give any connection this morning. I'm sorry, but your posts were about as interesting as a long-winded explanation of how to make a PB&J sandwich.
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naw, he's a kid. it's summer, he's got time. he goes to work at 5pm? sounds like a busboy/pizza hut type of job.plus the constant need to lie and put himself in positions of authority (wanting to be a teacher, or a cop/detective)...and some of the things he flat out didn't know (didn't know you could get a BA in creative writing), that, for example you would inevitably learn in college, right?he's at least pre-college. I put him at 15. and I don't think he is like that HUGE nerd that was at your high school. I think he's that guy who never really seemed to wash his hair, and occassionally dressed as a wizard on pagan holidays.
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Mark Gordon backed out of Voltron Abrams asked to produce Voltron
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you own every insane clown posse c.d. don't you? ha ha, you do don't you? am i right? forget your bullshit post earlier, i know the kind of person you are so well. i called it didn't i? keep spending money on that garbage. you are like a negligee , so transparent. ha ha.......
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thank you for laughs. dead on the money. ha ha that pagan kid that owns a harry potter tie.
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that is funny shit...he's probably rocking that shit now
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Am I going to have to drink this blind? And if I do, will I go blind?
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he doesn't want to admit how true that statement is folks. he's the kind of guy that delivered your pizza during the super bowl. greasy as a pepperoni.so true wonka.thanks
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Dont see any copyright or trademark entries for "Monstrous" yet.
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He knows absolutely Jack about shit. If he knew anything substantial he would have written it by now, he's a passive agressive troll with nothing to add.
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But as a "friend" of "someone" who is working on the film, it's NOT Voltron. Mr. Abram's has specifically said in a statement that it is an original idea. And NO, he's not pulling our leg. I really had to put a stop to this. Sorry.
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yes, we filmed it folks. fuck you for not looking deeper into the statue of liberty clip. ha ha. it's fucking voltron!-j.j. abrams 6 o'clock revelation.....
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you're new here, aren't you?you can't stop MRX67 with logic or, you know..."reality"...he exists on a lower plane...
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"you own every insane clown posse c.d. don't you?"
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working on this film, i am looking forward to some real clues from comic con. that's the only " official" statements that i will believe this week.
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think Voltron is out of his league.
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he is never online when i am. oh well, he won't hide forever. he (or she) is a jugallo ( or juggalette). that is so classic. i feel empowered. i called that shit. remember this post. call him a juggalo.
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Jul 25, 2007 5:07:38 PM CDT
i don' t think voltron is out of j.j. abram's league
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. i think his production company people or whatever could do a great voltron. i think this type of film is out of voltron's league. this is cooler than voltron. i like voltron, believe me. i am expecting something way better than a lethargic bulky robot. anyone agree?
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WHAT A NUMPTY!!!!!!!! Lucid and Wonka I'm lovin your posts keep it up guys. I caught MRX67 online and challenged him, he took the bait and bombarded me with insults, look back and read his analysis of my username - great fun.
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Sninja doesn't this remind you of the ole transformers days. You'd think we could one topic troll free.
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I seem to have noticed! I was referred here by one of my collegues who was actually having a great time reading the comments. MRX67 will be sadly distressed when the big announcement hits.
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man in suit!
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Screw the announcement give us the downlow man we need the tapes to shut up this troll once and for all who are we kidding he'll say this movie is Voltron till 01/18/08 but I'd like to know more please.
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It doesn't bother me as long as they're not rude. I think he/she is just amusing him/herself.
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Sadly, it's not time yet. But it will be soon! Keep up the speculations!
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Greg Grunberg to appear in 1-18-08
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I think some one said that already but no one can deny the mass appeal of boob rockets.
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you guys aren't ready." i love those kind of posts. constant entertainment. oh yeah! i know lots of stuff, i'm going to tell you that i know information over and over again. future promises. funny as hell. keep me laughing while i wait for comic con for real clues. thank you.
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Yeah, I have a ton of information, but I'm going to wait until after all the announcements are made before I tell all of you.
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I didn't notice at first...so sad...
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Waiting in the MTN Time Zone.
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hot topic to his pizza hut job and gets sent home to change. while he is home he posts another great voltron theory. his plan works. he IS smarter than his pizza hut manager. what a genius plan. mrx67 is a jugallo for life homie. ha ha. i wonder if he is in a "nervous hospital" like on slinglblade? mmmmhmm . could you not see a slingblade freak typing mrx67 into the "talkie box" and posting on here? "take your medicine carl" "don't call me carl please, the name is mrx67, don't forget it." "it takes the medicine or it gets the hose carl. or whatever you call yourself online"
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bingo
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MRX67 wants you all to tune in tomorrow at 7:00 instead.
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It is so secret, I have to go into a trance, because I kept it a secret even from myself! Abrams has tried to silence me by refusing to release further information, but I will expose the secret as soon as Abrams provides more information.
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(That was a clue, don't miss it!)
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that's my lost theory.that's been my theory since he killed the polar bear. i would not be surprised if there are lost references in the new film. maybe at least some subtle references.
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Please can MRX come out to play?
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That was hillarious - Thanx!
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All I know is that Abrams better give us some good info or I swear I'll drop-kick that fucker into a pile of Rosie O'Donnell's dirty underwear.
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But it's so interesting to see people guessing! Also the cheapest marketing ploy you can muster.
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he won't let comic con go by without at least a hint. he will acknowledge the hype. i am sure of that. this trailer will be a big deal at comic con.
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I can only tell you that I am a part of the crew. It certainly has been one hell of a ride so far! But I still am curious to see what MRX67 has to say about Voltron.
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a trailer where they don't show you the entire movie. Maybe they will get around to that, I hope not.
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if you are part of the crew, i think it would be shitty on your part to give away secrets without the consent of j.j. abrams and crew. i want to hear things from official sources. i leaked r. kelley's new secret single. i was in the engineer room.
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http://i12.tinypic.com/63avnyu.jpg
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the newest cool thing to say on this thread is "i am aware of privileged information ,but i am not telling anyone what it is right now. i will post this non informative statement over and over again." anyone agree?
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You hit a very good point there. How many great action movie trailers have you seen that didn't have over 90% of all the action sequences? This type of marketing might revolutionize the way movies are put out to the public before release. It'll be interesting to see the outcome at the end of the month!
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G4 Tv just stated on Attack of the Show's section 'Rumor Mill', that this all IS about HP Lovecraft's Cthulhu. Just watched it on tv so iit MUST be true. I hope so...
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only speculation. rumors. comic con is this weekend.
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I do realise why you are thinking this way BadMrWonka. I'm sorry if I caused more distress in this discussion. I'll sign off for now and come back when the "lid" is blown off. Good hunting everyone!
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They also said that it's NOT Voltron, or a Godzilla remake.
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Face the Thing That Should Not Be... We can always hope...
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or his manager at pizza hut. anyone agree?
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not be? it seems like they had a song like that.
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you didn't cause any more distress than the 5 other guys pulling your same schtick...a. make generalized, quirky statements hinting you know more than everyone else.b. wait for someone to prod you about itc. make another statement, hinting yet again that you know something big, but of course, give no proof whatsoeverd. when pressed for specific info, say you have to leave for some vague reasone. come back to the TB, or a new TB, after the latest info has been revealed, claiming this was what you knew all alongit doesn't bother me, but I do feel bad for you that you actually thought you were the first one to spew this hot garbage.
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your spelling of "realise" and slightly stilted speech are a clear indicator you're not american (british, or maybe european with ver good english skills). and so how is it you are supposedly on the crew of an american film shot in america? that's a little unusual. for big players on a film, not strange at all, but 99% of, say, gaffers on a 30 mil US project are american.you gotta think these things through before you create a fictional character for an online lie. MRX67 made the same mistake...he claimed stupidly to be a cop...and you know like 30 seconds after he posted it, he was like, "fuck, now I gotta keep that going...what the hell do I know about being a cop? SHIT!!"his solution was to simply ignore any and all references to him supposedly being a detective, or whatever.will you do the same? or are you a rare Italian PA with good english skills, and a penchant for online buggery?
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Well said my friend!
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j/k but can you give a little background on who you are and what role you have in this movie.
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to produce a final product that lives up to the hype. Fans will turn on you like a pack of rabid dogs. A lot of people are speculating burnout to get this going this early, but I think it's interesting.
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Let's do it. I'm so excited for this.
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beautiful bean footage)
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Email it to harry and bugger off.
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Here's where he denies us the information because nobody's interested. Also, this Douche-O Baggins is quite obviously VITM, the same douche that Wonka eviscerated right before he had to "sign off" and MRX mysteriously reappeared. Fuck, I'm new here, but I get it, I think.
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althought, VITM was talking about MRX67, and said specifically it was NOT Voltron...I don't think it's the same guy, the're just different sides of the handicapped coin...at least MRX67 had the stones to name himself after a gene for mental retardation. that's like a couple giving birth to a son with downs syndrome and naming him "Corky"...
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The answer's simple: it's all bullshit. This MXR id has about run its course-- look around, no one's paying attention. If this fuckhole wants to keep up the shenanigans, he's gonna have to create a new identity. And what better new id than one that disagrees with the first? The M.O. has the same whiff of desperation to it in either form. God, I'm such a loser for paying attention...but, frankly, I got nothing else going on.
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here is, what I'm guessing is the "face" that MRX67 is seeing...
http://tinyurl.com/28rdog
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What am I looking for? A face? This wouldn't be the face on Mars face, would it? God, you'd be so embarrassed if I showed up with proof this was a THUNDERCATS movie, with a screencap of Lionor...
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that looks like the decepticon symbol from Transformers...
http://tinyurl.com/24bn5d personally I think it's nothing at all. but if anything, maybe it's just a little nod to the Transformers film, since they probably knew the trailer was going to play before it.but I'm really looking forward to MRX67's explanation... -
Now, I'm no expert in the field (preferring rum) but I felt that it was my civic duty to help you out, Prof.
A buddy of mine had a bottle and I have to say, it ain't too bad. In fact, it's pretty good, if a little too smooth. I like my booze to have a more bite (a sad side effect of my "broke as hell, buy for quantity, not quality" days).
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(complete outsiders point of view cuz i just started to read this today and i don't know who any of you are)
This MRX67 guy is an idiot. The end, I refuse to listen to anything he says or ever respond to him because it is true, you're just feeding him every time you respond.
JJ said it isn't voltron. JJ has no reason to lie, the end.
The only thing i got from watching that freaking clip over and over again was that i started to realize if you look at it long enough you will start to see whatever the hell you want to see in the smoke that moving between the buildings. At first i thought i saw something moving from the left to the right, and now im convinced some monster like thing is moving from left to right. But thats only cuz im staring at the same thing over and over and I want to see it.
If u want to believe its voltron, or whatever the hell u want it to be, then well, you'll start to convince yourself it is eventually, especially the more obsessed you get about it. And thats why, I'm done with the matter.
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Dude. This is what we waited for? You are such a fucking taint. Well, now that that's settled, I'm watching ROUNDERS and I'm wondering for the dozenth time why Malkovich didn't get an Oscar nom for this. He rocks the casbah in this thing..
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Give Montopolowa a try. It's the breakfast of champions.
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I took a screen capture of it, I see what you're seeing...I know you're slow to follow things on here, but I posted a god damn link to the screen capture above. it's like 7 posts above this one. go to the link, look at the picture. if it's the same as what you're referring to, then we're on the same page. perhaps not intellectually, but I see the "face" you're talking about. now be a dear, and tell me what the hell you think it means...
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I took a screen capture of it, I see what you're seeing...I know you're slow to follow things on here, but I posted a god damn link to the screen capture above. it's like 7 posts above this one. go to the link, look at the picture. if it's the same as what you're referring to, then we're on the same page. perhaps not intellectually, but I see the "face" you're talking about. now be a dear, and tell me what you think it means...
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I have never heard of "drules"...I had to look it up on virgingeeks.com so I get that they are a part of the Voltron universe...what I'm NOT seeing is how the non-descript, vaguely human shaped "face" in the explosion looks like any of these twats...http://tinyurl.com/yshrf2
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Jul 25, 2007 8:32:15 PM CDT
While we're on the subject of booze,
by the rondo hatton blues explosion
added to the fact that I've got nothing relevent to add, has anyone ever had Sailor Jerry Rum?
I've got a love/hate thing going on with it. On one hand, I find it deplorable that the ink slinging icon's name and image is being used to hawk everything from pint glasses to g-strings, but on the other hand, that's some damn fine rum. -
and I posted a link to the "face" in the fire...so now you tell me how a vague, non-descript face, looks like a "drule". considering, as far as I have found, they just look like normal animated humans, but they have purple skin.and please don't cop out and not tell us the second part, I Really want to hear it. don't be coward like you were before...man up, and give us the info...
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This jive-ass motherfucker. It's a drule! We should have seen this from the very beginning! And especially with all these extra drule pictures I have onhand that would have provided such easy points for comparison.
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What ARE you toking?
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I know you're not "gone"...give me 5 minutes, I'll piece together a file comparing everything. then you can look at it. don't run away like a scared kitten. be a god damn man for the first time in your pathetic life, and defend your argument.5 minutes, I'll have something for everyone to look at and weigh in.
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that was halarious, are you kidding me, thats you magnificent revelation.Dog if your a cop Do yourself a favor, whenever you wonder why you have not made detective just think back to this talkback. I'm sure your conviction rate would be shit. Dont give up your day job; then again give up your day job, your better at trolling the internet then being a detective.
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http://www.darkculture.net/cloverfield/monstrous02.jpg
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You moron. You kept Dry humping a dead horse.
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Please tell me the 2nd part to make it perfectly clear. Thanks for being persistent until I saw the light.
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Where is that explosion happening? Ground Zero!!! too soon for me. On the roof, judging from the angel of the Woolworth building they are not on Broadway! They are further east. Flaming death starts raining down on them hitting buildings and the street. When they emerge on the street they are on Broadway!!! No debris, no craters, and no dust cloud, nothing from the death that just missed them on the roof. Then the guy that saw “it”, survived the explosion at Ground Zero and ran 13+ blocks down Broadway to tell us it’s “alive” and “huge”. Isn’t January the middle of winter? Where is the snow? Not even a cold breath from the girls in the strapy dress’ on the roof and street, who must have left their coats inside in all the commotion. Then the SOL head, it came down the center of Broadway. No matter what dummywood does to NY, we all know what a disaster in New York looks like!!! So unless the SOL’s head was filled with jet fuel the building will not explode when it hit it!!! So something that is "alive" and "huge "and "roars" starts of at the SOL, if it came by sea, it decided to skip lower New York and Jersey. It rips the head of the SOL, takes it to JFK to fills it with jet fuel, goes to ground zero to cause an explosion, then tipy-toes over to Broadway and tosses the SOL head. So if each one of these things comes from an egg. Then what laying these eggs?
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juggalo mrx67 must have worked a volume tonight at pizza hut. i know it's some idiot roiling everyone up. i don't give a shit, i'm still talking some shit to him (or her). if he is gone then i'm happy, but another ass will take his place soon. what a dishwashing , greasy haired, pagan holiday celebrating, magic card collecting trog he is.
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further proof that you're a kid...no one fucking MAKES THEMSELF a long island iced tea. you order it in a bar when you show up late and you're friends are like 4 drinks ahead of you and you have to catch up. so the only explanations are:a. you are a kid that doesn't know drinks, so to try to sound cool you picked one that you knew was strong.b. you're an alcoholicc. you're just generally retarded...I think it's 'a' and 'c', and 'b' will happen in like 10 years...
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Gonna buy one if I can find one.
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transformers sucked.
this movie will suck.
voltron will suck.
Batman will suck.
the joker sucks. he is gay you know.
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I already posted a link to this...it's the only "face" I found in the explosion.if you have a different "face" in mind, take a screen capture and send us a god damn link.but you won't, will you? here's what you're going to do:first you're going to insult me again. then, you're going to make a vague claim about no one being smart enough to figure it out. then you're going to, once again, cowardly say that you're done with this, and you won't give us a link, or a picture, or any more information. then you'll run off again...you know that's exactly what you're going to do. so go ahead and do it, then skulk off again. please...we're all waiting.nothing is more predictable than a teenager's stupidity...
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Please explain the rest.
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and that was it...and haven't we been over the uselessness of trying to get a rise out of me by calling me gay? that only works for kids your age. all it does is prove, yet again, your actual age.
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"Making myself a LIT". Fucking kill yourself with a hammer, kid.
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i agree. it is a kid. it has to be. he (or she) thinks people really don't know. he really is that hot topic leech you see in the mall. world of warcraft t shirt and everything. he listens to insane clown posse and slipknot. he has greasy hair and he dreams of being able to get tattoos.
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I see no face anywhere around it. prove it.s c r e e n c a p t u r e
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what the fuck are you talking about? it lasts for almost a second, that's 24 frames...god damn kid, you're finally starting to at least TRY to coherently convey your point, something you seemed to be pathologically unable to do previously. don't descend back down the well of confused, retarded ambiguity!!take a GOD DAMN PICTURE of what you are talking about...go to imageshack.us and put it up...god damn it's like trying to teach a blind guy to use an etch a sketch...
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ha! oh yeah, i really looked at your dumb ass link. i could give a shit. mrx67, man, you are the greatest. j.j. abrams will never catch you. you are skilled . are you a pizza maker or a delivery driver?
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and do a screen capture of your whole screen...on a mac, it's apple-shift-3, on a PC, use the "print screen" key...then just open a blank document and click "paste"
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you are killing me. i am laughing my ass off. he (or she) is a trog. it IS a kid. he is way out of his league.
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He obviously thought that the SoL was a female robot and tried to mount her.
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he should know more about computers than a 27 year old...
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well...one of many, but you know what I mean...is that MRX67 seems to regard Voltron knowledge as common knowledge...and why does he have such a hard-on for it? if he's 15, he never even SAW Voltron on TV. hell, I'm 27, and I never saw it, even though I was in the prime age range. if he was born in 1992, how does he know or care about Voltron?so perhaps he is older...but if so, Jesus that's fucking pathetic. if he's like 30, and doesn't understand what a writing degree is? holy hell. that just took him up a notch on the sad sack scale...
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hopefully comic con will yield hints or clues. hell, i am excited about star trek movie news too. j.j. won't disappoint me at least, because i am looking forward to the lost comments as well.
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he is too easy to fuck with. what a trog. im out.
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Sailor Jerry's is the kind of drink, you drink, when you want to get sloppy drunk, but yeah, it is an alright rum.I've always preferred light rums and other clear liquors, like Vodka. BTW, Wonka, I got a bottle of Voxs the other night, and it was very smooth, but with a taste to it. Maybe, next time I'll try one the flavored ones.Good lord, I leave this thing for awhile and so much happens, I miss MRX and Dietrich going at it, and I missed the big revelation of why it is Voltron.Reading this thread has given me the fortitude to begin drinking, either that, or it makes me want to kill enough brain cells so I can get on the same level as some other people... not anyone in general, just some people.
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nightowl3090 has several videos that analyze the trailer websites and news. most things are already known but some were new ideas to me
kingtom00 was the first person i heard from that pointed out that right when the SOL hits the suv, something jumps out of no where on the left. dont know what it is though
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maybe before global warming but I live in Philadelphia and just like the 5 boroughs were lucky if it snows more the 3 times a year.
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...I know you think it's somehow cool that you've kept people like Wonka and Lucid and Phategod talking to you, arguing with you, blowing down your straw men one after another just so you can hoist up a new one or find the mangled remains of one that was already pulverized and stick its broken, shabby remains back upright. And I guess I can understand that it makes you feel somehow important to get the attention, somehow victorious to keep people stirred up. But (outside of Wonka, who has become strangely obsessed) what you're doing is costing you more time and effort than it is anyone you're exposing to your foolishness. It's not like you're "keeping anything going". Most everyone here called you out on your silliness within your first 24 hours of posting (some of us much earlier than that) and have since been regarding your posts as electronic roadkill. You know, sometimes you look at the smashed raccoon because you think it might be a cat, but whether you look or not you know it's something dead and depressing and unpleasant. Is that really what you want to spend your time being? Is the anonymous, scornful attention of a half dozen or so people on a talkback board that important to you?
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Formerly known as Ain't it Cool News
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Back about 1,000 posts ago, you became afflicted with a bizarre disorder. When a disorder begins to affect your life in such a way that normal daily brain function is impossible, it becomes a disability. I believe your clinging to this film as voltron is the equivalent to you picking a fight with tito ortiz. would you be crazy to do it? Oh yes. But if you won, you'd be a god. the odds of this film being voltron are zero, as is your ability to defeat tito in anything besides magic: the gathering. take a step back, look at what you're doing, and realize it's insane. it's becoming a disability. you're everyone's man-clown. your clown levels are off the charts.
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just make Magic Johnson the punchline and your straight.
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pretty funny spoof of the trailer.
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And it was kinda funny, esp. the whole, "Its a liovaginon!" "What?" "Its a aliliolov!".Damn you J.J. Abrams, and all the free publicity.
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http://tinyurl.com/yu647aI think that this movie may play out its welcome, unless we get something that is indicative as to what in the hell it is about.1-18-08 is a long fuckin' way away right now, and when 12 year olds are making spoofs of it, it can only mean one thing, genius advertising, everywhere I'm hearing shit about this, and by everywhere I mean the internet.
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that and its a huge bitch are my fav parts
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that pic proves it its voltron
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Ive been with this thread and the last for many days now. This has been the funniest days of all so far. MRX is so lame. Wonka you are the best at comebacks.
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Funny ass spoof. "its a huge bitch"
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Two clicks from when there is that explosion. to the left. you see 2 eyes and a open mouth. but i dont know how to post a screenshot. I thinkits just the SOL head illuminated by the explosion. lots like this(tilt your head sideways) :o
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thank you sir. although zinging MRX67 is a bit like using a samurai sword to pop a water balloon...Red Ned Lynch is right, I am becoming a bit obsessed...but in a really fun way. I'm sort of using him to hone debate skills. in a perverse way, it's hardder to argue convincingly with a mentally handicapped kid than it is with a normal, level-headed, moderately intelligent person. I like the challenge. when someone is disassociated with reality and logic, but still wants to argue. it's frustrating at first, then maddeningly frustrating, then funny, and then after a long enough time you become competitive. to lose an argument with this person becomes akin to losing an argument with reality. you think to yourself, "I know that what this person is claiming is untrue, but if I can't convince them, then they walk away with their brain devoid of reality." which is like a oddler with a loaded gun. stupidity is contagious.I became so frustrated with MRX67, I wanted to believe that he was joking with us. but he really isn't. which isn't to say he really believes the stuff he's saying. I don't really think he does. I mean, he can't, can he? it's ludicrous...(but I think there's a chance he believes it) but if it were all a joke, how could he keep it up this long? and why? I think now, he just needs the attention from all of us.and the smart thing to do, would be to ignore him, and then inevitably when the movie releases more info, and it's unquestionably NOT Voltron, he'll just disappear. but I just can't let him piss on the church of logic and reason (my church) and get away with it! as retarded as he is, I just can't treat him as retarded. I have to argue his points logically and prove each one of them wrong (as we all have...on many occassions).the worst part of all of this, is that MRX67 is going to win. when it comes otu definitively (although it already has, for most of us sane people) that this is a new project, and not a Voltron reboot, he will either disappear (which means we will never get to gloat, and therefore will remain unsatisfied), or he'll pop back in and go, "ha ha ha, it was all a joke, you guys are so fucking stupid you believed it, ha ha ha" (in which case, what can we say? we can't PROVE he wasn't joking...). either way, he wins, and we lose.that's why he's popping in and out just enough to keep us going after him, but he always leaves whenever he's backed into a logic corner. he just has to bide his time until comic-con, then the truth that we already know comes out, and he wins, in the manner I mentioned above.but I don't care. you lie over and over on here, and I slap you in the face with truth, reality and logic. that's the way it goes.no one pisses on my church...
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Under the PLAY Arrow box...
The shape that convinced MRX67.
It's nothing.
It's nothing.
But there is a giant hairy tarantula atop the tall pointy building to the left of that!
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But we all knew a loooong time ago that this project is NOT Voltron.
..to he who claims to have been on production, I'm curious. Where is next weeks location? We already know Carson is this week. Company moves when? -
when I took that screen capture, and linked to it, MRX67 said it wasn't the "face" he was talking about...and if you're referring to something else...what? there is no face there, and nothing "under the PLAY arrow box" that looks like a face. nothing.sigh...whoever said you were like MRX67 with a slightly better vocabulary was right...you are both unencumbered by logic and reality...him more than you, but you're on your way, kiddo...
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MRX is allready gone Wonka. Has anyone mentioned the "bloop"? and how it goes hand in hand with the history of Slusho? just search the Bloop and all will be revealed...
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After hours of reading theories and clues, the bloop made the most sense especially if Slusho is related, which it is, right?
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The poster clearly.... CLEARLY shows a path of destruction via plummeting rock. It arrives from outerspace.
I cannot confirm or deny that as fact/fiction.
It's pretty evident however.
I heard one silly rumor churning that it's the remake of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" but that is completely false... for that is a FOX property.
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Its an original monster and the bloop is the only explanation. It could even tie in the whole Lovecraft story...
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not affiliated (i swear) but thats where i got the proof that this movie is about the BLOOP.
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search it...it makes sense...
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I was merely stating that I see what MRX imagined to be a face. Read again. I'll quote myself"
"Under the PLAY Arrow box... The shape that convinced MRX67. It's nothing. It's nothing. But there is a giant hairy tarantula atop the tall pointy building to the left of that!" -
fuck voltron and his hairy tarantulas, we want the bloop!
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Not kidding, I just hear thunder. Could be, "Thunder! Thunder!" *zapped by lightning*So I figure the best I can come up with to tie-up almost everything I've read in the last twelve hour is, in my mind is equal poetically to....(In the voice of James Lipton)
“Intellectually, intelligently, pretentious Rorschach. Rampant, clever, dieing frequency corralled retching, beginning tambourine liquors. Manhattan, Han shot first, Han shot first. The device, is not a cop."
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its a real thing and abrams is using it to create his own monster. chances are we will never see it or it will live up to maybe half our expectations, much like the host. great movie but the monster was not completely convincing. very close...hopefully Slusho will produce a convincing cthulhu that creates Bloops!
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youre all reading about the BLOOP arent you?
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I heartily enjoy reading and watching shows about supposed paranormal activity. e.g. shows on ghosts(Haunting on Discovery) bigfoot, lochness, Bermuda Triangle. There seems to be an endless supply of these programs on TLC, Discovery, National Geographic etc, and I watch them all the time and have for a long time. I also keep up with the news in as many areas of life as I can. I can honestly say that I had never even heard of the "Bloop" until beginning to look into this film. Why havent there been loonies speculating on this as they do every other area of the paranormal? I have also asked other people in my family(even one formerly in the Navy) if they had ever heard of it an the answer was always negative. Of course, I am already assuming that its just something that flew under my radar all of these years, but Id like to know how many of you had known about the bloop since its supposed occurence in the 1990's, and where is the speculation industry that surrounds most of the supernatural or unknown?
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It's a theory alright.
You should get a gold star for bringing it back to the surface.
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I'll buy them
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so, you posted a link to the screen capture that I took and had already linked to, and had already said was nothing...to show that it's...nothing?tell me what new info your post brought to light...you have a particularly annoying habit of just posting things other people have already posted...then you add a few incoherent lines, and sign off with your signature...I don't need to list a bunch of times you've done this, do I?and as for the "rock coming from space" theory for the poster...well, that would make sense if you ignored the obvious claw scratch marks on the statue of liberty AND the buildings, and if you ignored the fact that the gigantic roar that's heard multiple times in the trailer occurs DURING the rumbling of the ground and the shaking...not after it. AND if you ignored the fact that whatever it is had to have been in it's normal monster form when it ripped the head off the statue, because it tossed it around later...other than that, a good theory...loland please stop writing things like, "I cannot confirm or deny that...blah blah blah"...you are beginning to approach MRX67 levels of denial, if you still think that ANY OF US think you are associated with this project, or even have ANY advance knowledge of ANYTHING...please brother, you're like the guy with the bad toupee that thinks no one knows...please drop the shtick...
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Thanks for your insight.
You already assume those are claw marks. The screen capture of your doing was posted to give light upon what we already knew was not there. Yet some were focusing on the fireball itself...as you did. When it was obvious that the shadows to the left of the ball of fire were what had MRX all giddy.
Jumping upon another who agrees with your intial claim is silly.
Pause some and breathe.
Remember, the teaser may not be in real time. In fact, it's not.
Believe whichever theory fits yours or make one up. It's a long time until January.
The debris depicted in the poster is "in movement" suggesting a high velocity. Something ripped over, through and into whatever was in the way.
For one who likes to point out the obvious, you are off your game in this regard.
Assume if you will, a giant meteor, huge (dates relate) RIPS through the atmosphere. The sound would rumble the ground and all that lay upon it.
Is this fact? Who knows. When was the last time a HUGE meteor made impact near Gotham?
The Roar, as you call it... is hear 3 times... each one different from the last.
Lastly, I will never claim to be associated or know anything official. I never have and never will. You are assuming I am connected to the production.
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I thought about it...
...and thought again.
No one had made the connection.
It really has nothing to do with the film, really.
It's the viral marketing company who marks all their viral sites with the Albert Pike Cryptos.
It's on their other sites and can potentially lead you to more 1-18-08 related sites.
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I said it before, I'll say it again.What a cock
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It's all theory and heresay.
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a. my point was that you can't see ANYTHING in the pic I posted, in regards to the area to the left and below the fireball. it's UNDER the play button. you can't see a face, or much of anything. so what was your point in showing it? there's nothing there.b. of COURSE the teaser is certainly not in real time, since it jumps around in the party, etc. but if you logically look at the events, you can construct at least a rough timeline....all the people are inside, they hear the roar and feel the shake. then, they go up to the roof where they see th explosion. THEREFORE, the first roar, and the earth shaking happens well before the explosion. much much before, actually...considering they hear the roar, then watch a news telecast, and THEN go up to the roof...and after all of that, they go outside, and THEN the head of the statue lands nearby. so SOMETHING was carrying it around for the interim time...that's plain and simple logic. if something crashed into the statue and broke the head off, and that same thing made the loud rumbling they all felt...how does the head get tossed around 5 minutes later? unless your meteor has time travelling capabilities, the monster is alive and well and not encased in rock or a spaceship, when it rips the head off the statue of liberty.c. something breaking the atmosphere would make some sound, but it wouldn't be very loud, and it CERTAINLY would not shake the ground. until it hit the ground, you wouldn't feel a thing.d. you don't have to claim to be official to be acting like it...when you say things like "I can't confirm or deny..." you know exactly what you're hoping for. you're hoping people will fawn over you because they assume you have some advance knowledge. otherwise, why on earth would you talk like that. if you are just one of us, why spew the rhetoric you've been spewing, and the catch phrases, and the stilted dialogue?you're MRX67, with a slightly better grasp on reality. but it gets slighter with every post...
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Did anyone notice this?http://mediamatters.org/items/200609260014If this doesn't point to a certain cover-up, then I don't know what does....
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Your theories work for you.
Run with them and enjoy the wait.
I am in no position to try to get people to "fawn" over my words. Fact is, you don't know if what you claim is true or not. Is it the need to argue and debate you are looking for?
About your arguement on the image, WE know there is nothing there. BUT, imagine, if you can, the play icon nonexistant. there is a burst to the left of the flames that could easily get MRX67 all juiced up. That is the point. Not that there is nothing there, because we KNOW that. The point was, that I see what got MRX excited.
If you wish to debate more, wait for him to return. I'm not one who is willing to strongarm a theory as he or you.
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when you say things like:"I can't tell you everything, but I can tell you through hints""According to inside sources"etc. etc. etc., ad nauseum...and you make up catch phrases like "a device is found"...you know you are trying to make people think you're involved somehow with the film or the marketing campaign. don't backpeddle so hard that you fall down, kiddo.
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Your digging a bit deep.
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You're digging a bit deep.
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this is what I mean, "your theories work for you..."when you say things like that, it's just like MRX67....I'm not giving out theories, I am giving out LOGIC...the giant explosion CAN'T cause the earthquake becase that would mean characters would have to be in 2places at the same time...a meteor crashing down CAN'T have cause the statue to lose her head, because the head MUST BE carried around for a while before it's tossed. this is not a THEORY, it is due to the sequence of events that we can asertain from the teaser. they feel the rumble, they watch the news, they go to the roof, they see the explosion, they go outside...THEREFORE, whatever causes the statue of libertys head to go missing either happens AFTER the explosion, so that it sends the head spinning towards tehm on the street...or it happens much earlier, and the monster carries the head around for a while...either way, the meteor theory is simply impossible, because of the head...and as for the claw marks..come ON...you know they put them on the statue for a reason, and then they put them on the building just to make doubly sure..."you see the claw marks right? two places, there they are...clearly claw marks, right there..."come on, buddy....don't plug your ears and go "la la la la" like MRX67...those are claw marks...the debris floating around them is just for effect...or pieces still falling off a little bit of time later...
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And your logic fits your theory.
So long as you keep posting.
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She might deny some facts for you.
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there is flawed logic, and there is true logic...there is no "your logic" or "my logic"...those are phrases tossed around by people who can't admit when they've made a mistake...those same people always avoid actually addressing specific points when they realize they can't defind them. then they go to big generalities. you just did it. MRX67 does it. it's a staple of mistaken internet hacks..."here is a specific fact that derails your theory, what do you say about that?" "OK, think what you want!" it's a sad way to break apart a healthy debate.and I don't really have any reason to call J.J. Abrams assistant, Ms. Wickham, nor do I have her number...of course, neither do you.you can't throw names around like that, just an hour after you claimed that you weren't trying to convince people you were associated with the production. you gotta pick a tactic and run with it. switching them around, well...that's another thing MRX67 did...you're crashing and burning, kiddo...better take stock and think abotu what you're posting before you spew it out...
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Hi-Res denies that it's involved in the new Abrams project, according to Florian Schmitt, the firm's creative director, "though I don't suppose we'd tell you if we were." Paramount and Abrams's production company Bad Robot were unavailable for comment.
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" How the poster got out
Someone on the IMDB board, in response to my hi-res images, stated that they know the vendor selling the "stolen" image for the movie and has already been contacted by Paramount.
The name of the person who is selling the one sheet pictured by our fellow poster here on IMDB is Luanna Jo Brown. I happen to know this woman. She has a big booth at the Frank and Son's show and sells movie posters and bootleg movies. She lives in Victorville, CA and Paramount has already been contacted regarding this breach and this stupid lady just spoiled the big announcement of the film's title that Paramount was saving for the Comic Con for all us fans. Plus -- she will be actually trying to SELL THESE STOLEN MOVIE One Sheets from Paramount while she is at the Con. I hope karma is kind to her. Cause Paramount won't be!!!!" -
when the guy posted a "hi-res" version of the poster, he meant the resolution was good, not the company, lol...or are you just calling random companies in the middle of the night to get quotes to post on AICN?
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I was really excited when the trailer first hit, loads of crazy theories going around, people speculating on what the film could be.I've sat here, for what seems like weeks, following this thread and slowly realising that all interest in the film has gone.All i'm doing is watching a tennis match between Wonka and MRX. And MRX is losing, only he's not really losing, at the end it will be revealed that losing is actually winning, or some other lame shit like that.Maybe there won't really be a film, it's all a scam by AICN to break their longest running thread record.Slightly depressed at how interested I am in watching someone beat a retard with a logic stick. It's like an intellectual snuff film.
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... expect some of the first concrete details of this one to be spilled. I've heard there's some sort of secret presentation during the day at some point...
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best metaphor EVER for dealing with MRX67...I tip my hat to you, sir...
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Remember, all of this MAY or MAY not be correct information. The teaser was shot before production began.
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818-560-7098
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does that mean a new talkback? we've lived in this one for so long, it feels like home. I don't know if I could handle a move at this point...
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Yeah, I felt I needed to get away from the "what a cock" comments.Although I could happily post them all day.
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I hope you didn't really posts JJ Abrams' assistant's personal number...that would be incredibly stupid, and will probably get you incredibly banned incredibly soon...
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by now.
There is no jeopardy in this.
There is no fact revealed yet, other than the poster, the teaser and the slusho.
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There is no Voltron or Drule.
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You seem to consider yourself wise but tend to crack when tapped.
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You can contact her at the office.
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a) can you give me an example?b) what the hell does that mean?really, what are you talking about?
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Facts buried under piles of theory and here say. It's pretty late, did you get your invite to Rob's going away party?
See you in SD
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sigh...once again, you have a politician's gift for skirting any meaningful information.so you dropped her name to impress people, and/or to imply yet again that you are some kind of insider. then to prove it, you post a phone number that, as you said, anyone can get.so what was the point?
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It's a query only they will know.
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and I can't go to SD for comic-con, unfortunately...I work on a show Thursdays because I'm a big important hollywood type. ;o) (it's actually not a very big deal, but I can't miss it)I'll read the endless coverage of it on AICN and be envious...
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He means you have a tendency to take hard drugs when you've seduced someone.Or is that too British for you?;)
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Maybe I'm just a lost guy/gal, on a deserted island who cracked a coconut "Professor-style", to get myself online to chat with you fine folk.
Point being, does it matter who I am?
Does it matter who YOU are? Would revelation of identity change your theories and beliefs? Would knowing who you pressed keys to make that much of a difference?
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Nor have I desired that.
I too have a big show to be a part of but sometimes that allows for travel to media events such as SDCC.
See, we all have big shows.
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Q; a specific questionA: generalitiesbut I agree that it doesn't matter who you are. I just wish you would stop behaving as though it does in your posts...
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That's all you'll see.
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Wonka, take a moment to consider...
What if you were wrong?
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I, based upon your postings, believe/assume you are an agitated fan, who is seeking answers. Not involved with the film or marketing as nothing other than a target.
But I could be wrong in that assumption and am good with that idea. If you were part of the machine, I don't think I'd prod you for truths and revelations as to who you are and such. Rather, I'd enjoy the game laid before me.
Can you not do that?
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but to be wrong you have to posit something...the only things I have "claimed" about this film are logical interpretations of the teaser and the film production. I haven't made any grandiose, unsubstantiated claims. if someone claims something that's disputed by the facts of the teaser trailer, or the press releases of the production company (or Abrams himself), then I have done my best to contradict them. in the name of reason! (shakes fist in the air).but to be wrong, you have to make an unprovable claim. then it can be proven wrong. if you make a provable claim, then it can be proven, and therefore cannot be wrong. and everything I've said has been provable.but if you have some specifics, let's throw them out there. I'll shoot them down one at a time like Duck Hunt...much more fun than the logic 101 clusterbomb in this post.blech, I usually don't like militaristic analogies, but once I got duck hunt in my head, I had to roll with it...
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Enjoy this time of discovery.
It was created in fun... (and to earn the highest profits on the lowest investments)
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You say "logical interpretations".
Well To interpret - To offer an explanation.
Are you saying you are an authority in regards to this film? If so, that's great.
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I think all of Dietrich's posts should be shrouded in mist, spoken like a 90 year old soothsayer.That's how I read them, make's it all spooky! OOoooOOOh!!!
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The payoff better be pretty spectacular, because if it isn't, there are going to be alot of people who feel cheated for investing their time. Even if its just for fun, if peoples' personal guesses are more imaginative and intricate then the actual result, head shaking on the level not seen since "The Phantom Menace" will abound.
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to interpret something logically implies the absence of conjecture. in short, you are simply saying that you believe only what you can see and prove evidentially, and nothing more. that is the basis of what logic is. if you can't prove it, it's a supposition. if you can prove it, it is not a supposition, but can be considered categorically true.an opinion is "a belief or conclusion...not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof". therefore, if you have proof in the form of a logical, coherent observance of facts, than a statement to that effect is not an opinion, but merely an averment of "what is". if I drop a hammer on my toe and swear. then my girlfriend comes in the room and asks me what happened. and I say, "I dropped a hammer on my toe," I am not giving her my opinion. I am telling her factually, what happened.in the teaser for this film, there are a BOATLOAD of things we don't know, and which are not evident. but one can make reasonable conclusions based on what one can see, and if that is done logically, and in a provable way, then those conclusions are not opinions, they are actualities.
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Go on, wield that stick. I'm up for more snuff! Swing away!!!
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"I see voltron's face in the explosion, this must be a voltron movie" - opinion"when the explosion happens, the characters are on the roof. when the earth shakes, they are inside. therefore, the explosion cannot be the cause of the earth shaking because those events cannot happen simultaneously" - actuality
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brother, I'm not going to "wield my stick" in front of you, unless you can get me a 3 picture deal...if you can do that, hell, I'll wield YOUR stick!
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i'm cheap enough to do it for one!!!
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Quint just put some new info on the main page about the poster! In case no one has noticed. WONKA YOU RULE!!!
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thank you Darth.
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They're just trying to kill this thread, there's no news there, NO NEWS!!!!!
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Dont know about the rest of you guys/girls but I wanna stick with WONKA his posts are legendary! So will the WONKA man be sticking with this thread or moving to the next. I NEED TO KNOW!!
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i think where MRX goes is of the highest importance.
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I think MRX will go where we go especially WONKA!! He's running out of time to impress new talkbackers the countdown on MRX67 has already begun! Im loving the debate Wonka(logic) V's MRX67(Insanity) but WONKA is clearly a step above us all and has legenadary status in the world of Talkbacks - I bow my head in the presence of BadMrWonka!
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Not the other way around! Build it and he will come!!!
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You're right, he won't be able to resist it.Unless he gets banned from the computer for not cleaning his room.
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That hi-res poster is awesome. So we have claw marks, a huge wake, and a path of destruction leading into Manhatten. Not Voltron, not Rampage, maybe Cthulu, but definitely some kind of giant aquatic monster.
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Can we make it before a new topic is posted?
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i made a screenshot from the moment the head gets thrown, you have to look closely. something appears in the light for an blink and then moves back in the shadow/smoke. i never reconized it earlier so maybe they are editing the trailer from time to time putting something new in! it looks like eyes - http://tinyurl.com/2f2aub
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I don't see anything there but smoke, brother...and I'm not in the Zone...is that the chattier part of AICN? what's it like, I've never checked it out...
http://tinyurl.com/2f2aub
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glad to see ya back on this thread, the other one isnt worth the switch
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Here's the link Wonka was talking about: http://tinyurl.com/2pjzzk
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Im new to talkbacks. What is a troll?
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It's someone posting on a message board just to cause trouble/start arguments/confuse people/further their own agenda. The less there is to talk about, the more trolls...
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Knowledge is Power
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...Just got back from doing stuff in, like, my actual life (y'know the sort of thing MXR67 doesn't actually have)... ...I popped a glance at the other thread but wasn't sure if all the "cool kids" hade made the jump or not...
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...for filling me in on the Polar Ice. Now that I know it's a good one I will stick that bottle in the freezer so I can enjoy it on Saturday.
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...that some red-blooded Americans like myself sometimes spell all British like if we are a tad eccentric. Or affected. Or anglophilic. Or learned to read and write English overseas...
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Say that the poster is official, without "Monstrous". They also had a Star Trek poster--just the name, and "Stardate 12-25-08".
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If you look ABOVE the diagonal black lines that made Wonka think of the Decepticon Emblem... Doesn't it look like the face of a cross-eyed cat? Compare Wonka's screen capture with this: http://www.ebbemunk.dk/alice/31cheshire_cat.jpg Doesn't the face of this cat look like the uppermost part of the explosion? Curiouser and curiouser!
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about the name "monstrous" yet. i will believe it when it is officially announced. personally, i am just not going to believe every rumor. granted, if aicn decided to post a picture of it, then it is probably legit. even still, it could be a farce just to get people roiled up. i am patient. i will wait for j.j. abrams to make a comment about it.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=nb4TstBBHYE
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i am so happy that j.j. abrams is directing star trek by the way. j.j. abrams is a shot in the arm for the trek franchise. star trek needs some fresh perspectives and ideas. oh yes, this star trek movie will be good. the title monstrous is not confirmed yet. i am not 100% on that one right now. i think some surprises are in store when the paramount panel gets their say. j.j. abrams is the talk of comic con as far as movies are concerned. you know some hardcore lost fans are there. he won't let them down. before it's all said and done, j.j. abrams will comment on the cloverfield trailer.
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i keep reading the term space god on this thread. what is the deal with that? i have seen that term at least 20 times or so. is it the same poster everytime? anyone else notice that?
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what are your thoughts on the title monstrous? it seems like a contrived name. like something mrx67 would dream up. if it's called monstrous officially i will still like the film, i just think that title sounds kind of lame. i don't believe it yet. what do you think?
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if you are currently arguing points with mrx67, please read this. mrx67 is not older than 15 or 16. he is on this thread to spoil the fun. he has made numerous grammatical mistakes that indicate his pizza hut dishwasher status. he is a sad kid. he has made wild claims about himself and his status in life. he thinks this film is voltron. that alone should tell the true sci fi fans that he is a trog. i almost want to think he is some kind of joke. it's almost like someone is having fun just posting absurdism.he has been destroyed already. i personally think he is a hot topic shopper with "emo" hair. he said he was a cop or some shit. i can give you ammo if you want to know more. have fun slamming this troll.
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if you are currently arguing points with mrx67, please read this. mrx67 is not older than 15 or 16. he is on this thread to spoil the fun. he has made numerous grammatical mistakes that indicate his pizza hut dishwasher status. he is a sad kid. he has made wild claims about himself and his status in life. he thinks this film is voltron. that alone should tell the true sci fi fans that he is a trog. i almost want to think he is some kind of joke. it's almost like someone is having fun just posting absurdism.he has been destroyed already. i personally think he is a hot topic shopper with "emo" hair. he said he was a cop or some shit. i can give you ammo if you want to know more. have fun slamming this troll.
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damn it, that's the first time i have done that. i hate those. sorry folks.
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he is so wrong about me. i mean i know he is just giving the only insults that he can remember from his junior year in high school, but even still, he is a fucking trog. what a waste of time he is. why is this spoilsport even on this thread? i mean really, is he that starved for attention. he is a juggalo folks. believe me, i am on the money with this kid. i am so right about calling his ass out that he can't stand it. he works at a pizza hut type of job that requires him to clock in around 6 or so. what a trog he is. i hope he is working on his creative writing degree.
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I'm really torn. On the one hand I have a weird kind of respect for MRX67 since he's sticking to his guns so vehemently. On the other hand, he is causing me to lose all faith in humanity.
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...the poster is confirmed! Beautiful Hi-Res version on EW.com! ...without the title "Monstrous" MXR67 I told ya saying Wonka is gay won't bother him because he is not homophobic. He is also not gay. If he was gay we'd be dating by now!
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Lucid dreamstate is not a parasite.
You are just mad since your Voltron theory has been proven wrong.
But you know that already. Even after I said I was a believer you wouldn't share your findings, because there are none.
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it's still untitled as of today folks. i want one of those damn posters. i hope paramount sells them on their website.
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christopher nolan is not a hack. i put him in the pantheon of great directors.anyone agree?
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With ya on that one. Nolan's not my fave, but he's pretty reliable so far. Batman Begins is the best superhero movie to date (with the possible exception of Incredibles), in my opinion. I really hope Knight delivers.
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Nolan hasn't really made anything that would be considered a masterpiece, but he hasn't done anything that is bad/crap, so I would say, that eventually he will, most likely, enter into the pantheon of great directors, like Kubrick, Scorsese, Uwe Boll.... scratch the last one.I was wonder, do you actually "Lucid Dream", because that shit happens to me all the time, I've tired of having fake sex with anyone I want, now I'm into doing shit like walking thru mirrors, and trying to make objects appear out of no-where in my hands, it's hard to do the latter. I've also been trying with third-person points of view, but with mixed success.
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Everyone's going to jump to the other one, but I'm holding out.
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On the other thread... MRX67 has mentioned he is having a book published later this year. He is also happy since he gt people talking about football over there. Sigh.
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i agree, this post is on it's last leg. my screen name is from linklater's film. try flipping a light switch in your dream. ever seen memento? following? nolan is in the company of some of the great visionaries. i am a kubrick fan too. i love the psycho remake by van sant so i'm sure you think i am an idiot. i don't care. nolan is good as hell. j.j. abrams is a talented helmsman as well. romero pissed me off with knightriders. that film is pure trash. i rented it recently, and i changed my mind about him. i love the dead films, but other than that, he isn't firing on all cylinders. although creepshow 1 is one of the greatest movies. i laugh my ass off at that one. the roaches are classic.
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Ladies and gentlemen alike, looking through all the rumours of this v exiting film, not one did i come across any anagrams of the word "cloverfield" used so far to describe the film. The only anagram that sticks out for me is "clever if old". Could this hark back to the old Godzilla films if its true, or are they any other old monster films that J.J. has mentioned?
I give this up for ponderence, and hope of a solution.
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i mean why stay here if it's not the easiest one to access anyway. fuck it, i am almost gone from this one. no one is really posting here anyway. i'm sure there are tons of trogs on the other thread, and i am going to call their shit out because i think the trogs need to be fucked with.
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day late and a dollar short. read earlier posts. welcome.
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goodbye
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Only to be replaced by a new one, same subject. Siiigh
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...alas sweet thread you linger no more at top ten list... ...now into the shadowy archives ye slip... ...never again shall i post links to lolcats here... ...no more read the mad rants of the deluded... ...oh the happy badinage! To jest with Wonka and Red Ned! ...to mock, perhaps to scorn the trollish simpletons, the genetically retarded, the ambiguously coy... ne'er, ne'er again sweet TalkBack, fare thee well... ...into the long, long, night I leave ye now... and off to see what thy daughter post shall offer me... ...yes, on the horizon she bekons... "come away, come away" ...and so I go, at last, to seek the new thread, still reigning high, atop the top ten list... The old thread is dead! Long Live the New Thread!
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...you couldn't be first, now I won't let you be last...
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New pic, new website title, and you can flip the pics over by grabbing and shaking the mouse violently.
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what is the card in the new picture. is it a key card, i.d. card? the last letter is a "d" and the second to last is eiher an "a" or "h" i think.
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Did you know that if you hold down the mouse button over the photos and move them up and down really fast, they flip over? Two of em have notes on the back.
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it's the screen of the camera he's using, and it says "HD" on it... which makes sense cause if he weren't using HD, we couldn't see his footage (= the movie) in very good quality in cinemas :-)
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actually checked out the myspace pages of the characters??? they've been up for a while now and with the change in photo configuration on the website (01-18-08) it seems the marketing people got sick of everyone not getting the clues??? it seems that everywhere else on the web has more cloverfield news than these damn talkbacks...
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i'm not typing my whole story out again
SPOilers up ahead!!!
JJ Abrams american monster is a big newyork city RAT... i knowit sounds funny when you first here it, but this is gonna be his insane vision of a non-cute non cuddly but memeorable monter, i for one think it can be pulled off if done correctly
keep in mind jj came up with the idea while shopping with his son, so i don't think this is going to be a Scary rated r movie non of the king kong and gozilla one were. if it is to be iconic it has to be pg-13 at least hopefully i am wrong i would prefer a grittier r version. Eithwer way people will die either on camera or off but not all of them, they just happen to drop the camera and ti appears like they might have all perished. but thats neither here nor there if you notice the statue of liberty has 4 finger (claw) marks rats have 4 prodominat fingers next they can swim well in water with out haveing to go the gozilla lizard route (japan) its definately not a whale, not aliens because those type of monsters we can not relate to which in all other icon monster movies we have some form of sympathy and even route for the monster. also jj made a weird quote something about a rat's ass related to the online ad games that struck me as if he was trying to let something real suttle slip, i'll try to look it up. Keep in mind this is an nyc subway rat not no mickey mouse, no imagine awild hungry half torn up sewer rat causing a rukus in nyc prety insane no??!!
well lets see gozilla is a lizard he bacame a star, most other japanese icons are insects mothar and kuwabaras, kong was an ape so why the hell not a rat especially in this home video type move where you probably only catch a glimpse of it in maybe 10 seconds of the whole film with a shady camera, but knowing jj we proably will never see the monster until bigger budjet sequel comes out. Another theory would be a message of global warming defrosting a t-rex or sabertooth tiger or some crazy prehistoryic animal based on reality but never before concived (yeah iknow my spelling suck too lazy to sp check).
one of american biggest international star is a RAT
by nypdwolf
well kinda... Mikey mouse penitrated mnay a foriegn markets similar to gozilla, he's americas best known mascot even terrorist though of sturring up trouble in disneylan or world i forget which but they found video tapes of attraction on suspected terroirst. The chance of their being more than one monster at least in the first movie are slim to none but maybe in sequels.
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it a mental expireimant
by nypdwolf Jul 31st, 2007
03:36:27 AM
if i was jj abrams and i am not a gifted scrrenplay writer or producer as you can tell by my obvious mispellings 0-18-08 would be a story about fears and miconseptions anything causing that much damage in a pupolace like nyc would be something to fear while it was actually happening, but at the aftermath to realize that it was done by a mutated rat or 100 story tall girl in a pink dress while p.m.sing would seem like a really silly thing to continually fear, it would be a metaphor for terrorism afterall though much distruction can be cause by terroist at the end of the day "terrorist is people". not that scary to look at but scary by their potential distructionary acts.
btw title of the movie is VERMIN
by nypdwolf Jul 31st, 2007
03:41:22 AM
bawhhaha just kidding that would be the title of my liitle conceptulized scrrenplay above :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ver min
by nypdwolf Jul 31st, 2007
03:48:44 AM
Introduced species can develop into vermin in the regions where they were introduced if they find favourable living conditions, and if they face few or no natural enemies there. One of the most obvious cases of this occurred in New Zealand with introduction of the rodent species (rattus rodentiatallis). In such cases, humans often choose to fill the role of the predator to limit the danger to the environment. prime example of vermin ...Rats, mice, and cockroaches are common urban and suburban vermin. perhap to be called vermon as in vermonstrous or very monstrous.
yeah i think vermon would be a cool name
by nypdwolf Jul 31st, 2007
03:51:34 AM
for a giant rat monster akin to godzilla or mothra or kong.
vermon sounds like voltron so that
by nypdwolf Jul 31st, 2007
03:53:19 AM
should appease some fans lol
or maybe furious + monstrous = FURMON
by nypdwolf Jul 31st, 2007
03:55:27 AM
furry monster a rat.
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has now been updated. as has slushozoom.com. click on flavours.
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has now been updated. as has slushozoom.com. slusho click on flavours.
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its a gonu movie. This was refrenced a while back when Homer S goes to japan and they all get seizures while watching the all bandai Chocobot hour. This JJ movie is the first big Bandai movie. its all an attempt to get the kids corporatized when they are young. cant just have any ole pirates these days it has to be Captain Jack Sparrow or nothing. Toho had their godzilla movie, Hasbro had Transformers and now its bandais turn.
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I know that this is just about dead but I don't know where else to post this. All of the friends on his page are in the trailer. ('Hawk' is the guy who says "Think we can see anything from the roof?") It's weird but it's real.
http://tinyurl.com/2gvkgh
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Has anyone else noticed that, when looking at the back of the pics with writing on the back, if you change your viewing angle various smudges appear in specific locations. Look at the "Love, Jamie" writing. "Lascano, Platt and Robbie" has a smear/smudge/something across it. Also, the words "and wide!!!" has something else written/smudged behind it too. On the "Don't forget who takes care of you!" pick, changing your viewing angle will make parts of the letters fade out (or get darker possibly). Any thoughts?
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Has anyone figured out what to do on this page yet? It seems to be some kind of puzzle, maybe. I've tried various combinations of flavors and mixed them but nothing is happening.
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seems to be some kind of glowing flower......you add the other flavors to it. Hmmmmmm
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is now thinking about a "hammer"......if this is old news then sorry!
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The Seahorse which protects the little fish with it blue oven mitt (keeping it frozen\preserved) is lost. (Seahorse leaves the screen and does not return) The little fish is no longer protected so it is free to eat the cheese (drink the Slusho). It grows into a giant whale\octopus\zilla like creature. The octupus surfaces and leaves the ocean to put the hammer down on New York!
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That if you can flip the pictures over on the 1-18-08.com webpage. I googled the names on the back of the photo and came to this,
http://www.myspace.com/jamielascan
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Which led to this
http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins
Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't these Actors names? Not the real names? And does it seem teh IMDB site for the movie has different actors from the ones featured?! -
if you go to all their myspace's, robbie and HAWK are brothers...robbie hawkins and JJ hawkins, and its not just a coincindence because one of the comments in hawks profile is this
"hey i talked to mom today. she says you need to call aunt peg and say thank you"
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and the "platt" on the back of the picture is a last name...its hudson platt
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