May 24, 2007, 7:43 a.m. CST
Thanks for the great news. Now, I might bother to read Harry's review.
May 24, 2007, 7:54 a.m. CST
Fucking A review Mori. Looking forward to this and Im very pleased with the different tune exhibited on this site towards these films. The rest of the critical world seem to be pissing all over it and calling it characteristic of the brainless churm 'em out culture (at least here in the UK). I beg to differ.
May 24, 2007, 8:05 a.m. CST
There's a sentence that just undid all the good Quint review just did. Quint convinced me to give this a chance, not Mori's saying these films are like the Matrix films and reward repeat viewing - i'm sorry but who in their right minds could have sat through the Matrix sequels more than once. Once was torture enough. No, once the Matrix was mentioned I went back to where I was I'll just hold onto the wonderful original and pretend the sequels don't exist.
May 24, 2007, 8:08 a.m. CST
just saw it too... I thought it was "there"...you know, can't think of the word...in between good and awesome. But no matter what anyone says about this movie, it'll make a zillion dollars. I still can't work out why the previous one made so much...i mean i thought it was ok, but I didn't get the same awe feeling as i did after watching say...titanic or spidey2
May 24, 2007, 8:09 a.m. CST
by drew mcweeny
... but I didn't mean that these are exactly like the MATRIX films, Filmcoyote. They're not. For one thing, I think the MATRIX series has no real sense of humor, especially not in that third film. PIRATES, on the other hand, seems to have recaptured the same sense of humor people enjoyed so much in the first one. <P>All I meant is that the people I know who really love the MATRIX series are the ones who have really rewatched the movies and who have picked out all the minute details of them. I think the people who are really invested in the PIRATES films will enjoy these more than the casual viewer or even the killjoy critics who seem to have treated DEAD MAN'S CHEST and AT WORLD'S END like homework assignments, bitter before they even sat down to watch them.
May 24, 2007, 8:18 a.m. CST
"For the most part, absolutely." I am going to repeat that several times today.
May 24, 2007, 8:35 a.m. CST
There isn't a narrator who tells the audience in "Arrested Development"-style* what is going on in every second! The audience has no chance to get what's going on on screen!<p> * No Arrested Development-diss intended. I love the series!
May 24, 2007, 8:37 a.m. CST
I said it before in that Q & A-Bullshit review from that girl that nobody has ever seen but everybody wants to date: I waited for that review!
May 24, 2007, 8:37 a.m. CST
Best review so far!
May 24, 2007, 8:38 a.m. CST
every time a review on this site is overly apologetic for the movie's director, structure, characters and whatnot, I know I'll end up hating them. And saying that it rewards people who go over the minute details is just plain dumb: at every repeated viewing of the Matrix sequels, what stood of where their flaws. It's REALLY easy and cheap to review a movie saying that if I didn't like the movie, I probably didn't get it. Also, when you say "I didn't find it confusing" you are a) calling the movie confusing and b) putting yourself apart from us who thought it was just over bloated, pretentious and empty at the end. I'm with Alexandra Dupont on this one.
May 24, 2007, 8:53 a.m. CST
by TiNSeLToWN TeRRoR
This is gonna be awesome. I hope it destroys spidey3 opening weekend record. It will definately beat it in the long run.
May 24, 2007, 9 a.m. CST
Knowing how good this series can be, I really hope that this movie lives up to "Curse of the Black Pearl", from the sound of it though, it would be worth seeing for the special effects alone.
May 24, 2007, 9:07 a.m. CST
by Mr Gorilla
Remember how when films like Phantom Menace and Godzilla and Pearl Harbour came out, the critics panned them but audiences went crazy and they were box office hits. (Yes, Godzilla got $375 million worldwide.) And more so than that - hyped-up audiences (including myself) persuaded themselves that the movies weren't all that bad. Now what light does a bit of hindsight throw on all this? Critics aren't always right, but many of them enjoy a good entertainment as much as the rest of us: think how much they all lapped up The Incredibles. THESE FILMS ARE PLOT-LESS, CHARACTER-LESS SHIT - AND DON'T LET ANY CGI MONEY-SHOT PRESUADE YOU TO THE CONTRARY!!!!!
May 24, 2007, 9:13 a.m. CST
@MR. Gorilla, what does that really have to do with the Pirates series? I've never found it to be reliant on CGI to the extent of several of the movies you listed (especially the recent Star Wars). Some movies are made to be entertaining for the hour or so you're watching it, and then forgotten, which is fine.
May 24, 2007, 9:39 a.m. CST
I was with you until this statement: "the sort of spectacle that seems to only be possible in this new digital age, on a staggering scale" - um, can't that be said for any number of films every year? Say for instance...Spider-man 3, the upcoming Transformers and so on. I think it's about time Jack Sparrow or Optimus Prime does a earnest speech at the camera on the effects of CGI and how it can hurt you - "It's called CGI and if you or someone you know is being abused by it, call this number: 1-800-FUC-KCGI". CGI has ruined American cinema, it's made filmmakers lazy and audiences submissive - it could be argued that its never be used well. Damn you, CGI, the great periods of cinema are lost forever...
May 24, 2007, 9:41 a.m. CST
by Mr Bonefish
Every single one of these films have been too long and I fear that this one won't be any exception. Gore has serious Jacksonitis.
May 24, 2007, 9:51 a.m. CST
I hate it when people complain about the movie being too long. This is a movie! If I'm gonna pay $10 for a movie I better be in the theater longer then an hour and a half! Most the best movies in history were longer then three hours in most cases. And people wonder why real cinema is dead...
May 24, 2007, 9:57 a.m. CST
Okay, I can't say i'm 100% convinced but you make a well argued case and if this does recapture some of the pure joy of watching the original (something the second mostly lacked except in a few glorious Johnny moment like the re-introduction of Jack in the coffin). Fair dues to you you've explained away by nitpicking solidly so I am going and judging for myself as I know I should.
May 24, 2007, 10:40 a.m. CST
sigh...I meant a creative laziness of course. You actually just made my argument for me - you're right, it is very time consuming to "block out their CG crap" as you say and which occupies "the same amount of effort and time", time better spent doing what? Its not difficult to come up with a few things...Heh, you thought I meant an actual physical laziness? Michael Bay directing from a La-Z-Boy while getting fed grapes and being fanned off...ehh, abstract thought isn't for everybody I guess...
May 24, 2007, 10:45 a.m. CST
Because they have certainly been known to suffer from these sort of grand delusions in the past. And adding a mountain to that molehill is that Harry and Massawyrm said everything but the films were perfect. When Massa and Harry feel that strongly about something they are practically without fail dead wrong. They as reviewers represent the "common man" who these days is all too happy with shutting off anything resembling a brain and apologizing profusely for the worst drivel Hollywood can churn out. Harry especially who needed to stop writing reviews for this site a good two years ago. And while I respect Mori greatly and typically like his reviews even if I don't agree with them the line "And if that sounds like a chore to you, then perhaps AT WORLD’S END isn’t for you." seems like alot of base covering. He also in his visits to the editing room of this film seemed to have great regard for Jerry Bruckheimer. While it's hard not to appreciate the sheer scale and success of what Bruckheimer has accomplished as one man in this industry, he does it almost exclusively at the expense of art. Selling out your films hard and frequently is the only way one gets Bruckheimer successful. If I don't like this film it will have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I found it confusing. The problem with Dead Man's Chest wasn't that it was confusing, but that it was merely half a film with a metric ton of needless garbage piled on top. And some of that garbage wasn't any good to begin with. I have never seen a third film in a series wrap up neatly when its sister films heaped so much needless shit on top if it. In fact Star Wars Episode 3 and Matrix 3 to this day stand as shining examples of two of the worst genre films of all time. With plot and writing flaws so random that trying to defend them basically makes you an idiot. So excuse me if Im a bit hesitant about Dead Man's Chest. And like I said if it turns out it isn't any good calling me "confused" or that I had so much thrown at me that my mind is blown are just cheap apologies for the film. With that said I certainly didn't hate Dead Man's Chest and while I don't expect to love At Worlds End I think they can still salvage a decent trilogy if they play their cards right.
May 24, 2007, 11:06 a.m. CST
And not in the typical way. They actually seemed to pick the movie apart in detail and go into WHY it doesn't work--which is far different from the reviews on either side which have whittled it down to either 'awesome' or 'confusing'.
May 24, 2007, 12:03 p.m. CST
by Turd Furgusen
Sounds like this installment is a little more frantic than the second. I actually enjoy having some threads in a plot go unresolved. It allows me to fill in the missing pieces.<p> Anyway you could elaborate on Verbinski's use of CGI to create the hectic scenes you describe?<P> Without going into spoilers, of course.<p> BTW, Happy Birthday you old fart.<p> I mean that in the best way possible since you and I are same age.
May 24, 2007, 12:05 p.m. CST
That's what I mean! It's to easy saying "this movie is good, if you don't like it, than it was not for you in the first place." Fuck that! These people need to stop apologizing for horrible movies they really, really wanna like.
May 24, 2007, 12:23 p.m. CST
You basically explained why I love this series so much. I'm looking forward to it. Love me some Davy Jones.
May 24, 2007, 12:33 p.m. CST
In my opinion Verbinski is using CGI the way it was meant to be used - creatively not excessively (although their is some excess I'm sure). I want him to do a JLA or an Avengers movie. He can handle the ensemble cast and stage wonderous eye-popping action sequences - SOLD. <p> Also, Mori is not saying people just don't get it. He is saying it's just not what they wanted out of these movies. It's a tonal preference. People who like part 1 generally like the lack of dense mythology and the straightforward portrayals without all the backstabbing. Obviously the second film completely departed from this as does the third. To me I would've been happier if the Matrix films would have stuck to the tone of the first and had not threw up their Philosophy 101 textbook. But with Pirates it's basically deliberate chaos and everyone is amoral except Will and Lizzy so there are no contradictions and it's well thought out.
May 24, 2007, 12:45 p.m. CST
yeah, i agree. A lot of the reviewers seem determined to dislike these films for the frakking sake of it. They're far from perfect, of course, but they're far more engaging than most things that pass for entertainment these days. For instance, i've read a lot of reviews describing the PIRATES trilogy as 'confusing'. I agree they're certainly frenetic. But confusing? If a critic can't follow a film like PIRATES, then they're frakking retarded.
May 24, 2007, 1:02 p.m. CST
out in terms of following the logic of the world they've created and crafting meaningful arcs for all of the main characters. I agree with Mori also that the second film easily bears more repeat viewings than the third. Hopefully I will not be disappointed when I finally go see it, 'cause you never know. But based on Mori's review I doubt I will.
May 24, 2007, 1:03 p.m. CST
May 24, 2007, 1:04 p.m. CST
It's really not a complete departure. Same with the Matrix, only I think they didn't improve on it whereas Pirates has.
May 24, 2007, 1:29 p.m. CST
by Bungion Boy
Love that movie. An underrated gem.
May 24, 2007, 1:32 p.m. CST
AND I'll be dressed to the hilt! Our theater always has costume contests for movies like this and I, quite frankly, have the best pirate costume ever. EFF Jack Sparrow... Its Shakespear Beauraguard's name you need to remember!
May 24, 2007, 1:54 p.m. CST
"WE WANT CUMPSTON...WE WANT CUMPSTON...WE WANT CUMPSTON!!!!!!"
May 24, 2007, 3:16 p.m. CST
now I've seen part three. I'm a little annoyed my cinema cut off the "heartbreaking coda" but it'll be something to look forward to on DVD, whatever it might be. All in all three hours well spent.
May 24, 2007, 3:47 p.m. CST
by the darkman
I can't wait to see this movie tonight at 9. This is the movie I've been waiting for. I loved the first two, and I excited to see how it all ends.
May 24, 2007, 3:49 p.m. CST
The action was Indiana Jonesesque, in that it was huge and crazy but also hilarious and creative. Depp is a superb physical comedian as well. I love the indulgent feeling of the films, everythings lush and dense and crazy. It really is a billion times more entertaining than pefunctory plot points as an excuse for action scenes ala Tranformers or the overly cheesy Spiderman 3 stuff.
May 24, 2007, 3:56 p.m. CST
by the darkman
It's been some time since we've had movies that are purely enjoyable on this level not withstanding the lord of the rings. It's just pure enjoyment, and I love every second of it. I know it's not everyone's thing, but it just reminds me of the fun i had as a child watching the Indy series with my dad. For me it's on that level.
May 24, 2007, 4:18 p.m. CST
Great review. After so many negative reviews, I am once again amped to see this tonight!
May 24, 2007, 4:59 p.m. CST
I love how Harry is confused as to how people think these movies are so complicated, so he sums it up in simple terms. Then Moriarty comes along and talks about how you need to watch the first two again and the film has a dizzying and dense mythology. Obviously, there are multiple viewpoints of the complexity of these movies lol.
May 24, 2007, 5:34 p.m. CST
by STL Critic
I happen to agree with. Even Harry's, except for the whole "Black Pearl is the new Falcon" thing. I get what he's trying to say, but yeah, that's off base. I agree with whomever said the Harry Potter books are more like this generation's Star Wars, although I don't know if that means we're ever going to see Hermione in Leia's gold bikini... dvzxlauu
May 24, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST
by STL Critic
meant to post this, sars: http://tinyurl.com/3ckc7c
May 24, 2007, 6:03 p.m. CST
by Badger On A Bus
I've just returned from World's End and I loved every minute of it. My main problem with Mori's review is the suggestion that the film is far darker than previous installments. Ok, so the opening scene is downbeat, but the tone shifts pretty quickly to put the emphasis back on fun. The movie is far, far more humorous than Dead Man's Chest and seems to be over a damn sight faster too. First great blockbuster of the season. Roll on Bourne and Prime!
May 24, 2007, 7:23 p.m. CST
There is a difference. It's not complicated it's just messy. Indeed, POTC like the Matrix before it, has been inflicted with BTBTFS (back-to-back-the-future-Syndrome) They're not so much "trilogies" as they are good films with half-formed Siamese-twin...growths on their backs
May 24, 2007, 9:16 p.m. CST
I totally agree that the opening scene is brilliant and daring, but then the rest of the film for me doesn't live up to it. I was very disappointed.
May 24, 2007, 9:27 p.m. CST
by Bronx Cheer
of Dickens and Hugo. This is not to say they equal the great works by those writers, but I enjoy the throwback approach to storytelling. I have not seen the new film, so no opinions from me about it yet, but I did enjoy reading this review. It did what a review should do. While I agree in principle with the sentiment of a previous poster who complained about the revelation of the age of one of the hanged, there's a flip side to this; it gives readers a clue as to the nature of the film, suggesting that it may not be suitable for kiddies.
May 24, 2007, 9:28 p.m. CST
by Bronx Cheer
Enjoy your day, Drew.
May 24, 2007, 9:40 p.m. CST
by Bronx Cheer
May 24, 2007, 10:10 p.m. CST
See, I think when a movie-maker's movies don't always work--it's not for an abundance of brilliance but rather an unfortunate lack of it in one venue or another. I think you are tripping over a desire to be overly reverant there, Mori. But then you always get that way when you are excited about a movie (even if you aren't talking about the maker of the movie you are reviewing). I know it's a good sign when I see that in your reviews as opposed to when you're unhappy with a movie and get all picky and uptight (AI comes to mind).
May 24, 2007, 10:37 p.m. CST
it was much much better than the second in my opinion
May 24, 2007, 11:06 p.m. CST
I just can't understand the drastic difference in opinions on this one. Guess I'll see for myself when it comes out on DVD.
May 25, 2007, 12:31 a.m. CST
the second one more than once. It was astoundingly boring, illogical, badly written, far too long, meandering, and quite frankly didn't deserve to be a sequel to the quite well done first film. Moriarty knows better, screenplay wise...or at least he should by now.
May 25, 2007, 1:17 a.m. CST
And does so for three hours straight, after procuring tickets online, 5 of us went to see it, three of us took long naps throughout(me included), and left as if someone had kicked us awake. There are scenes in this movie, 1/2 hour long in length, that you can cut out and not lose a step. Plus, not enough Jack Sparrow. C'mon no one goes in to see anything but Johnny Depp. More Depp, less East India Company, Miss Swan, and Bootstrap&Son - more Barbarossa and Depp - and Even what's his face octupus. Calypso was a drag. Not to be confused with - "Calypso was IN drag" - which would've worked. Some alternatives to watching this movie are : Upwords with Someone else's foreign grandparents and clipping the claws of your girlfriend's cat. * star for only for Captain Jack
May 25, 2007, 2:13 a.m. CST
The screen goes black for a few seconds and the audio is from the Disneyland ride. Such a cool little moment....
May 25, 2007, 2:21 a.m. CST
My Brother failed his driving test. My grandad is seriously ill and I hate my Job. The power of a movie such as this one is that for nearly 3 jam packed hours I could escape to world which bears absolutely no resemblence to this crappy one. Harry's review is spot on, actually. This is a Movies that shows there is still some imagination left in the world. If it's too long then it's because it has character, wit, imagination, invention, action, humour, romance. Most films nowadays go through the motions and are formulaic. This one has a lead character who is insane. You don't get any other Movies like these being made and as much as the haters have a problem with them, I don't care. I'm happy I live in an age where I get to see something as unique, as trippy, as twisty, as witty and as imaginative as this. God forbid anyone make a film which has dialogue in it. The fact that you also get spectacular action, breathtaking set designs, classic one-liners and frankly flawless visual effects should get you on your way to your nearest cinema. If not wait for Transformer to be a souless SFX reel. Just don't tell me I shouldn't like this film or it's predecessors.
May 25, 2007, 2:27 a.m. CST
by the darkman
I fucking loved it!!! The story I felt was well balanced. Loved Jack's return from the locker very surreal, and very fun/inventive. I thought the plot served the story, and loved Depp in this one more so than the previous two, and that's saying a lot. I thought the ending did the 3 movies justice, and I for one would be happy if they left it at that, but there's certainly more story to tell if they felt the need. I highly recommend!
May 25, 2007, 2:28 a.m. CST
by the darkman
The audience I was in ate it up.
May 25, 2007, 2:30 a.m. CST
by Darth Twoface
I already saw the movie but didn't stay as long...
May 25, 2007, 2:47 a.m. CST
I loved it and so did the audience that was experiencing it with me. Lotta dressed up pirates. I loved the black out part where they play part of the ride. Classic. the haters can go walk a plank into the shallows where their anuses can be penetrated by some exquisite coral.
May 25, 2007, 3:06 a.m. CST
It WAS a fun film, and it did not quite feel like it was as long as it was (part II felt like it was a long ass movie).<br><br>I am a bit confused as to why so many critics are ragging on this film...it is entertaining, and as noted by another poster, the special effects are just jaw-droppingly great, and it feels like a solid wrap up to the trilogy (it sounds like Gore is a bit fried from making these films, and wants to chill/do something low-key, before climbing back on the blockbuster film horse, I can appreciate that).<br><br>Of the three sequels with 3 in their name, this is, by far the best one (again, I really think the critics are not giving this film a fair shake, it feels like they are simply angry because it is long...well, duh, this is the type of film that needs to be long so the audience is provided with a wholly satisfying film-going experience.<br><br>I think Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer may also be a bit critic-proof...the audience loved the trailer (and it was the old one to boot, with the Human Torch chasing SS and being grabbed at the end), and I heard some people say they were going to see it.<br><br>It may do enough on its opening weekend, that severe second and third week drops mean that FF 2:ROTSS may still make 130-160M, which bodes well for future FF films (I enjoyed the first one a ton, and apparently it actually sold really well on DVD, am really looking forward to this film, and would love to see a third FF film get made).
May 25, 2007, 3:07 a.m. CST
Wow. Wow. Wowowowowowow. Amazing. Absolutely brilliant. Perfect.
May 25, 2007, 3:19 a.m. CST
I stopped reading as soon I read about the hanging of the 8 year old.
May 25, 2007, 3:28 a.m. CST
...the rest was tosh, but I did like the march of the stone crabs.
May 25, 2007, 5:35 a.m. CST
by andrew coleman
Who the fuck notices crowd reactions for trailers? Almost every trailer I saw received good reactions so does that mean they will all break 130-160 million? Hell no. Also FF4 2 will suck badly because I think the movie has two action scenes in it, one we've now seen in a trailer. Also people need to quit bringing up the length of Pirates I love that the movie is 3 hours long I'm getting my moneys worth, same goes for Spider-man 3. I hate shelling out 8 or 10 bucks for a movie that takes only an hour and twenty minutes to roll through(Shrek 3) so good! Sadly though in my theater most of the people were booing at the end of Pirates but they all sucked I plan to see this again sunday after a baseball game. Oh yeah if you have time this weekend go see Bug it is seriously a classic that will be crushed by hollywood blockbusters but go see it.
May 25, 2007, 5:50 a.m. CST
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.... Reality check needed here BIG time. When you get done with all the sugary gushing at AICN, AAAHHHHHRRR, check out the 50% Rotten average at Tomatoes (only 40% among professional critics). P3 looks like an even bigger, bloated, talky, incoherent, pointless mess than P2, with less of its one saving grace, Depp. Yet Spidey 3 (61%) gets savaged by AICN, P3 loved long time. Guess PIRATES gave out more free hats? As flawed as SM 3 was, it may be the best of this genre we see this year. Its more deserving to keep its records than SHREK 3 or either of the last two PIRATES. Sam forever, Bruckheimer/Verbinski never.
May 25, 2007, 6 a.m. CST
Saw it last night and I did enjoy it. The last 45 minutes is absolutely fantastic - really incredible. But we'd always been leading up to the final battle since film 2. By the time the showdown rears its head we've already sat there for 90 minutes enduring double-cross after conversation; after another conversation. You've really got to be up for paying attention but then if you get lost it doesnt matter as everyone ends up at the same point they were at the end of the second movie - going into battle. None of the motives change - its just all padding to make it into a whole movie. Major scissors could be taken to the two sequels to make it into one three hour cracker - or even two 90 minute flicks. There's alot of stuff in this one that's just a chore to sit through. The pay-offs like Mori said though are really superb. Some of its a struggle but its definitely worth ten bucks.
May 25, 2007, 6:14 a.m. CST
I'm really looking forward to this film! I used to be critical of CGI, but in the case of this series it has "come of age"... and there's probably no other way the filmmakers could have pulled it off. ---- Moriarty wrote about "pirates who are making deal after deal after back-stabbing deal, setting up one double-cross after another"... is the movie really a satire about multi-national corporations fighting each other? ;-P
May 25, 2007, 9:09 a.m. CST
Said this was even worse than the 2nd one.
May 25, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST
YO-HO! THIS IS GOING TO KICK ASS!!
May 25, 2007, 11:23 a.m. CST
by the darkman
Who gives a shit about the critics? Their opinions never mean anything. I really don't take to much stock into what critics have to say about any given movie. I see because I feel that it maybe worth watching. I really enjoyed the movie, and I felt that the movie was very entertaining, but also very bold for a summer blockbuster in some aspects which I won't go into for the sake of giving anything away for the people who haven't seen it yet. From me it gets an A!
May 25, 2007, 11:26 a.m. CST
by fish tacos
It was beyond kick ass, me mateys. YO HO
May 25, 2007, 11:27 a.m. CST
The movie I saw felt like it was about 9 hours long and had tons of scenes that were pointless and just went on and on. That rope that Jack was swinging around on for the last two hours of the movie must have been about 3 miles long. <br><br>The multiple Jacks were washed out and needed some color correction. When the woman turned into a giant it was horribly bad.<br><br>they could have cut out about an hour of pointless stuff and this would have been a much better film.
May 25, 2007, 11:32 a.m. CST
Hot 16-to-24-year-old chicks dressed in sexy pirate gear waving swords around. The worst part is when they start yapping during the movie. I finally had to turn around and shush one who kept seeing Keira and saying "GAWD, I just LUV her!" Other than that the movie was pretty damn good, if a bit longer than it needed to be. But better to have and not need...
May 25, 2007, 11:36 a.m. CST
Opening night crowd went APESHIT for the newest TRANSFORMERS trailer, laughed fairly hard with RATATOUILLE, laughed AT the very idea of a NATIONAL TREASURE 2, and the 100 girls squealing for OCEAN'S 13 barely drowned out the sickening sound of 100 boyfriends' eyeballs rolling back in their socket-juices.
May 25, 2007, 12:26 p.m. CST
I'm sad too say I thought this one was just ok. Didn't dislike it, didn't love it either. For me, it breaks the cardinal rule of sequels in that it didn't really give us anything new. Sure the maelstrom at the end was cool, but nothing wowed me like the cursed pirates in the first one or Davey Jones and the Kraken in the second. Certainly not a Spider-man 3 level disaster, but I'm still waiting for a big '07 summer movie to knock me on my ass.
May 25, 2007, 1:45 p.m. CST
That's all I need to say.
May 25, 2007, 2:11 p.m. CST
I saw that very same movie last night! Weird.
May 25, 2007, 3:32 p.m. CST
by Wed Vid Guy
I have to say that it's a mixed bag. Over all a great first and third act. <br> The rescue of Jack Sparrow from the Locker was an amazing sequence and a visual feast. Really visionary stuff going on there. The long second act felt a little like The Senate from "The Phantom Menace" where people sit around tables making deals. It wasn't bad and kept me interested but it was just sort of there. The final act was pretty amazing as the final battle took place in a whirlpool. And of course the coda after the credits was pretty neat.<br> Could have been shorter but I loved the scope and imagination on display in this film series. Can't believe an amusement park ride yielded such an interesting and dense set of movies. Boggles the mind.
May 25, 2007, 5:42 p.m. CST
World's End is a wretched sequel. I seriously fell asleep. I NEVER fall asleep in movies. Needed to be an hour shorter, with a few more action scenes (It is, after all, a PIRATE MOVIE). And they needed to stop introducing characters that then just disappear for some reason, Chow Yun Fat, Calypso. For the record, I was kinda bored by the first one, but liked the second ones wacky energy. This one's worst than the first.
May 25, 2007, 9:35 p.m. CST
Not slamming the movie. I love these films. But I do think that a LOT of the plot elements that were introduced in AWE should have been introduced in DMC...especially the facts that Davy Jones is supposed to take the dead to the great beyond....and the fact that to stab his heart means you have to take his place. There are other things too, but I won't nit-pick too much. It was a good movie and a lot of fun. With a little more work, it could have been great! (and I love how they planted the seeds for yet another sequel)
May 25, 2007, 9:49 p.m. CST
May 25, 2007, 10:44 p.m. CST
Looked great, a lot of fun. This guy could handle a JLA movie, no doubt about it. The action was superb. <p> Didn't need the corporate baddie - he was a waste (nice actor, little to do). Or, they should've left all of that pirate conference East India stuff for the second trilogy and resolved the Will/Lizzy story. I'm also confused as to why they really love each other and all that stuff, but they managed to make Bloom look like less of a punk this go round.
May 25, 2007, 10:48 p.m. CST
scene, but there were several places that felt like they should be deleted scenes. I don't care how cute the whole Jack in Hell thing was - could've been trimmed down and saved for a list of "I love Jack in an irrational way" disk of extras. <p> At one point during the mast scene I actually rolled my eyes because Jack became Batman.
May 25, 2007, 10:51 p.m. CST
it was going in, it was extremely madcap which was always there in all of the films. It also was careful to include literally everything from the other two films (not a good thing). I just didn't really care about Lizzy anymore at this point - she looked beat. The bit in the credits should've been the movie they made. Will turned out more interesting - go figure.
May 26, 2007, 4:45 a.m. CST
Bored me to yawn tears.
May 26, 2007, 5:29 a.m. CST
Not sure where the person who did the entry is getting this information, be an interesting twist if it's true. "According to the film's writers, the curse of The Dutchman is broken if, after the ten years, the captain's lover remains faithful. The final post-credit scene suggests that Will can now return to land, as Elizabeth has remained faithful. The green flash, which symbolises a soul returning from the dead, supports this theory. Apparently, a scene of dialogue between Tia Dalma/Calypso and Davy Jones, which explained this, was cut from the film, leading to confusion about the ending."
May 26, 2007, 6:24 a.m. CST
by Atticus Finch
The movie was meh. Nothing great...nothing that will be remembered past the 4th of July. Several in the audience left after hour two, and those that stayed seemed like they had just been woken up at 5 in the morning when it was over. Glazed eyes all around. Cut about 45 minutes of bloat and it could have possible been a good film, but as it stands now...meh.
May 26, 2007, 11:15 a.m. CST
and his cameo, may i say, rocked? yes, it was obvious and overdone, but it was just what the doctor ordered. and did anybody hear a couple of stones-type tunes in that song he was playing with that banjo? the audience i was with was whispering and yes, waking up a bit when he showed up. i couldn't actually understand what they were saying but i'm sure it was good stuff. again, this beats the first two and all sorts of "copies" of this material. hope we see more of cap'n jack sometime soon.
May 26, 2007, 12:20 p.m. CST
And no one is more surprised than I am. I'll preface this by saying that I still wish they had gone down the Indiana Jones route making each film a separate adventure and bringing in new characters and bad guys with each film. But we got Dead man's Chest instead, which, while technically impressive, was infuriating with it's Matrix-esque half-of-one-giant-film bullshit and the utterly needless East Indian Trading Company angle. But over the last year i've resigned myself to the movies I'm getting rather than what they SHOULD have done and as a straight sequel to Dead Man' Chest I'm not really sure how you can say that At World's End failed. They at the very least answer 95% of the questions DMC brought up (and htey were legion) and for the most part didn't used completely random easy fixes and justifications. And that's a lot more than you can say for other franchises that make the third film do all the heavy lifting like the Star Wars Prequels and the Matrix films. And amazingly enough the pacing remained pretty steady. What they have really done and done well though is create a universe all it's own. Just the attention to detail of the world in which these characters inhabit is astonishing. They also don't betray the rules of the world they've established as an easy out for a situation that they wrote themselves into a corner with. So on those very basic levels I liked the film. At the end I also felt a very real sense of danger. That, with the exception of Jack, anyone was expendable and could be taking a nap at any moment. And, while it's a complete cop out that the other ships just sat back and did nothing, that final ship battle was fucking killer. They aren't perfect sequels by any means, but they are good enough that I hope the franchise lives on cause they created a world that I would feel great visiting over and over.
May 26, 2007, 12:26 p.m. CST
by the darkman
I'm 28, and not a moron sir. I'll loved the moive, and the first two. It' s a matter of opinion, and if you can't choose to accept that without name calling then I say Fuck you. By the way Lost sucks you jackass!
May 26, 2007, 12:29 p.m. CST
by the darkman
who don't like something, and then they think that gives them passage to call people names that did like it. These people are the morons of this group. I believe you can express your opinions without name calling...yes I do believe it can be done! Ignorant pricks!!
May 26, 2007, 12:31 p.m. CST
by the darkman
I'll say I'm sorry for the name calling on my part. Since it's only fair for me to do so even if you won't.
May 26, 2007, 1:49 p.m. CST
...in a film review goes to *opens envelope* Moriarty! for: "But do I think it delivers on the promises that the first two films have been making? For the most part, absolutely." Also acceptable would have been: kinda totally, sorta definitely, partially completely and no, not really.
May 26, 2007, 2:21 p.m. CST
by Orbots Commander
Here's the encapsulated version: "PTOC3: AWE was just okay and mildly diverting; it is an entertaining film but nothing to write home about." In other words, it's a $250 Million rental.
May 26, 2007, 2:29 p.m. CST
They should've had a second trilogy with East India and the Pirate Conference - none of that was needed here. I mean piracy is freedom - eek! It also seemed they really wanted to make a madcap Jack/Barbarosa film anyway and were kind of bored with the established plot points. <p> They should've made Will and Lizzy's story more clearly parallel Davy Jones and Calypso's and ended the film on that tragic note. I do like overall what they were going for, though. Lizzy became a part of the stories she so loved but at the same time lived a quiet life after her adventures. It was both sweet and melancholy and should've been the end to the movie they should've made.
May 26, 2007, 2:35 p.m. CST
some more Darth Vader moments and less of being East India guy's lapdog. I get it, the whole Emperor/Vader thing, but they castrated the character pretty good after making him so cool in DMC.
May 26, 2007, 3:11 p.m. CST
except for the visuals. The story was a mess.
May 26, 2007, 4:20 p.m. CST
it doesn't take itself so dreadfully seriously.
May 26, 2007, 5:15 p.m. CST
to my mind it shades a 3/5 rating. The effects are great, the locations are stunning as are the set designs but there are three things that nearly sink this movie. one is the flat screenplay and two are lack of depp witicisms again and three nonsensical stuff like the multi-jacks and that story surrounding Naomie Harris Tia Dalmam which was nonsense and the po=faced look of the actors.
May 26, 2007, 5:57 p.m. CST
You are the AICN all-star, Mori. My one concern with how you set this review up is that you go overboard in your proclamation that you "WAS NEVER CONFUSED EXCEPT WHEN THE WRITERS WANTED ME TO BE!" (paraphrased). That sounds dangerously apologist to me, as if you are trying to answer all those critiques who see confusion and exposition as the main weakness of the film, rather than address your core audience. The danger is that THAT tactic enforces THEIR opinion and severs your connection with your AICN readership. Other than that, you continue to impress.
May 26, 2007, 8:17 p.m. CST
by Banky the Hack
Calypso. What a worthless sequence?!
May 26, 2007, 8:40 p.m. CST
Overall, I enjoyed the movie. It didn't knock me off my feet like 300 did, but it was entertaining. Some items definitely could have been cut. For example, why even bring up the Calypso character. Why couldn't Tia Dalma had just been Davy Jones love interest? Why make her this supernatural being? If they wanted a storm, why couldn't a storm have just happened? Also, Chow Yun was useless. Couldn't they have trimmed down the whole Elizabeth is a captain thing? Enough gripes. The SFX were amazing and this was DEFINITELY better than SpiderMan 3 (THE MOST DISAPPOINTING MOVIE I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME).
May 26, 2007, 11:42 p.m. CST
by Bubba Gillman
...when Jack was rescued from death and Davey Jones' locker merely by people coming and getting him. Kind of lessens the stakes. Also disappointing that the Kracken, such a strong and menacing presence in 2, was killed offscreen in-between movies. And the final sequence, with multiple characters swinging on ropes in the midst of a hurricane, veered perilously close to Van Helsing territory. Loved the first one. And only the first one.
May 26, 2007, 11:56 p.m. CST
the myths. At least fairly accurate. I don't have a problem with it, they should've just saved all of that for the second trilogy or whatever they want to do next. The writers were clearly bored with the story they set up at this point and were not prepared with how to get to their resolution (which was fine with me).
May 27, 2007, 12:01 a.m. CST
Calypso, like have her standing in the ocean 100 ft tall and looking like a goddess as she creates the whirlpool. Also, they set up Tia Dalma as Calypso - hinted in DMC and told as part of Davy Jones's backstory.
May 27, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST
That movie was garbage! Between the whole let's double cross each other to death, pointless plot point here, pointless plot point there. I was bored as hell, and mad I can get that 3 hours back. Also Disney forgot the whole point of what made the movies in the first place! Captain Jack, I felt like they had so many dumb ass characters in this one it was almost like what was the point. I would've enjoyed it more if it was more of him and his Father. This movie sucked ass, and Calypso! She didn't do anything. I'll grow giant and give the entire crew crabs! Much like this movie has done to it's audience. Wait till it comes out on DVD, and in fact don't waist your money on renting, wait till a friend rents it, or better yet wait till it comes out on Starz.
May 27, 2007, 12:59 a.m. CST
being Jack. They could've left him in the locker, just sayin'!
May 27, 2007, 1:47 a.m. CST
by Acerbic Norseman
The audience I saw it with loved it. I thought it was excellent. The critics are way off concerning this movie. It was an extremely fun ride and offered great closure to the story. The scene with the monkey and the parrot was so f-ing funny I almost laughed up a lung. Great movie!
May 27, 2007, 2:14 a.m. CST
by andrew coleman
How can fans of these movies love this one? It ruined everything!!! Davy Jones simply was a bitch who I wanted more of and got less. The Kraken just is dead? This goes down as the worst movie of the year for me so far. Spider-man 3 was a let down Shrek 3 was sort of funny but kind of sucked and this was horrible. Will Transformers or LF or DH save the summer? Or will Knocked up and Superbad small comedies be the best thing? Seriously don't fall for the hype avoid Pirates 3 at all costs it is a serious let down.
May 27, 2007, 2:35 a.m. CST
Just my opinion. At least POTC was fun.
May 27, 2007, 7 a.m. CST
Yet another movie with an endless council meeting. People sitting around a table and talking is not cinematic. Stop it. The kraken just being dead was a let down. In POTC2 it seemed to indicated that Lord Beckett had aperxonal vendetta against Sparrow ("We've left our matks on each other"), yet it just turns into "It just good business". Also, I didn't see those pirate lord do shit, except cheer at the end. I do think the ending was actually really good, and unexpected. It was a cenematic Rub Goldberg. A lot of complicated shit happening to perform a simple task. This is quickly becoming the summer of The Transformers.
May 27, 2007, 7:13 a.m. CST
I should only type when im awake.
May 27, 2007, 7:34 a.m. CST
by Evil Chicken
That was an excellent review that I held off on reading until after I saw the film. I wanted the surprises to remain surprises and I wasn’t disappointed. It was a blast and a half. So, Moriarty… the film is exactly as you described it. I loved seeing the internal “multi-logue” scenes with Jack Sparrow; in a sense those scenes explained an awful lot about how the character moves through his life in these worlds the writer’s, filmmakers and actors have constructed. It was a lot of fun and, yes; to date it’s the best thing I’ve seen this summer.
May 27, 2007, 8:26 a.m. CST
then why have a major pointer where Jack goes in search of The fountain of youth. The story was flatter then Kiera stomach and as bland as Orblando bloom.
May 27, 2007, 11:28 a.m. CST
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no. Hopefully Jack Sparrow...er...Captain Jack Sparrow...will make another appearance in a fourth movie.
May 27, 2007, 12:19 p.m. CST
during the press campaign for this movie. johnny depp said he would like to do a 4th. Jerry Bruckheimer doesnt agree. they will have to make a singular Jack sparrow movie. its all a bit odd.
May 27, 2007, 1:13 p.m. CST
I applaud your fantastic comment about (some) movie critics! Absolutely true. "....or even the killjoy critics who seem to have treated DEAD MAN'S CHEST and AT WORLD'S END like homework assignments, bitter before they even sat down to watch them."
May 27, 2007, 2:23 p.m. CST
that the film was overstuffed. The Kraken's death represented the end of an age. It was actually an interesting moment, just seemingly in the wrong movie.
May 27, 2007, 2:26 p.m. CST
trip to Davy Jones's locker because he had a break from reality. He was wacky before, but nuts when he came back. So I guess there are consequences from going to the Locker, but then he was acting just like his old self by the end of the film.
May 27, 2007, 2:55 p.m. CST
Not just that, but Lizzy is sort of pirate scum through and through, and Will is on his way there. Even in part two I left the theatre thinking Will was too good for her (despite Bloom being bland I thought that idea at least made things interesting), and hoping she would do something to redeem herself in this film. But, nope. Instead she just lies to him some more and then displays ignorance on what constitutes freedom (hint: it's not piracy) and becomes the Pirate King. Yeesh. The ending after the credits was the movie they should've made.
May 27, 2007, 3 p.m. CST
object to any of the ideas, they were all fun and interesting. It's just that their execution was poor and they dropped the ball with the love story. They never even address Lizzy's attraction to Jack (and what he represents) that they built up in DMC except to have her act surprised that Will thought she was in love with Jack (which is absurd considering she's Jack this and Jack that the whole time and they are going after Jack) and that she is suddenly no longer acting attracted to him, but like she was in the first film. She doesn't act attracted to anyone but herself. So maybe she becomes like Jack, I guess. Still doesn't explain why Will loves her unless he's stupid.
May 27, 2007, 5:40 p.m. CST
I have no idea what Moriarty is saying when it comes to Keith Richards, the fucker sleptwalk through his scene (if you have Depp base his performace in Richards, you should like Richards be Richards and show where the Crazy came from) Lets not forget that when you think you're going to see a huge Pirate vs. East India Trading Compay throwdown, YOU THINK YOU'D ACTUALLY SEE IT. Seriously, what the fuck were the other Pirate Lords doing in there? Also, alot of the movie was just a bunch of meetings - like the worst parts of Phantom Menace. There's a hellova lot of ways this movie disappointingly turns left when you think it'd go right. It manages to entertain despite itself, but its nowhere near as much fun as the first flick, or the complete fucking insanity that was the 2nd movie. Sigh. C'est la vie.
May 27, 2007, 7:43 p.m. CST
You say this is the first movie so far this summer to really live up to expectations. I believe you are referring to Spiderman that is not living up to expectations. So how come Pirates of the Carribean can get a pass from you for sloppy writing/underwritten characters, yet not Spiderman 3, which you gave a poor review. I enjoyed Spiderman much more.
May 27, 2007, 9:19 p.m. CST
by jimmy rabbitte
...down from the $135 Million opening of Dead Man's Chest. That is the final commentary on what everyone thought of the second installment. Even though the third film is better than the second; at almost three hours running time, most people are probably just going to wait for the DVD. Who can blame them? I liked At World's End, but DMC was a real let down... I guess that sound we're hearing from Disney is... CHAAAA--...ching?... whoa... what happened? Please let this be the last padded out "trilogy" a film studio tries to foist on the public...(I'm lookin' at you Columbia "we're gonna make three more Spideys" Studios)
May 27, 2007, 9:51 p.m. CST
by jimmy rabbitte
If there's a way to fix it so it comes out as a solid, quality piece of entertainment... I'd go see it. But I can't say I give 'em very good odds at this point.
May 27, 2007, 10:09 p.m. CST
There was a council meeting in the first Star Wars movie where Vader choked somebody for the first time. And any council meeting of SPECTRE was cool. And holy shit, did you not see Dr. Strangelove?
May 27, 2007, 11:12 p.m. CST
Meh... Saw it today and while watching, Spider-Man 3 came to mind in the sense I think this movie was overstuffed as well. Where I found SM3 to be basically 2 different but potentailly great movies frankensteined together I found World's End to be a decent idea and good fun weighed down by unecessary fluff material that I felt were useless to the movie and story, with a noticable amount of exposition scenes which basically explained the story rather than showing it (if that makes sense). I forgot which AICN reviewer said that they've been trying hard to make an actual mythology out of this series like the original Star Wars trilogy, but I totally agree with them, especially with the point that it has been at the simple expense of the simple fun and charm present in the first one. My biggest problem with the series is that I couldn't really give a damn about Will and Elizabeth. With both sequels I completely forgot why I was supposed to care about them when we first see them again. Like Harry says, the series revolves around Will, Liz, and Jack, but it is only the former 2 which the series seems to depend on for bringing the soul, drama, and meaning to the madness. But instead of trying to further develop them they opted to throw in more characters, gags, and more exuberant cgi battles; I guess it doesnt help that i find some scenes with them to be completely flat sometimes (insert Kiera joke). Was it fun? Yea, I enjoyed what I was seeing when the pirates were swinging over a whirlpool slashing and blasting at each other, but since I couldn't really care about these characters the finale just was that to me, random people getting gutted and blown up. It was a cool sight to see, but by the time the lights went back up I pretty much walked out of the theatre not able to give a damn about any of it.
May 27, 2007, 11:16 p.m. CST
Chow-Yun Fat was wasted which is a sin against cool.
May 27, 2007, 11:39 p.m. CST
by slappy jones
in three days then we are living in fucked times.....seriously if that is considered disappointing then it is just fucking gross....
May 28, 2007, 12:42 a.m. CST
DLP was made for films shot with Digital cameras. I saw Miami Vice, Zodiac and 300, which were shot in digital, on DLP screens and they looked fucking fantastic. Movies shot with 35mm film cameras really arent enhanced with DLP in my opinion. Still havent seen Pirates 3 yet though.
May 28, 2007, 12:48 a.m. CST
like soul mates. Anyway, I agree Chow was wasted which should result in some kind of penalty against cool.
May 28, 2007, 12:51 a.m. CST
They gave him the Vader prequel treatment in part 3. Arrrrr!
May 28, 2007, 2:02 a.m. CST
...growing huge, cuz I swear I saw a nipple there.
May 28, 2007, 3:22 a.m. CST
...This was by the numbers folks. The script was just "and then this happened and then this happened" etc. Just weak. It was too damn long, like Jacksons Kong.
May 29, 2007, 7:40 a.m. CST
A critic realising Sparrow isnt the lead character.
May 29, 2007, 7:44 a.m. CST
Great special effects. Silly plottwists. Great actors. Terrible Braveheart speech. Funny monkey.
May 29, 2007, 8:27 a.m. CST
by Borgnine JR
...I sit in meetings all day at work, I don't want to go to a theater and sit through 3 more hours of them. I'm not advocating for thoughtless action, and I know intrigue and skuldugery are all part of pirate fun, but come one guys. I saw some people,rude bastards that they were, playing games on their cell phones. And Keith Richards was wasted. Where was The Crazy!?
May 29, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST
Sparrow is practically a cartoon character at this point. it was too silly for its own good. i mean if you look back at the first film. which was more dark and serious, minus sparrow of course and then jump to sparrow in part 3 talking to clones of himself. it was wackiness at its finest hehe. Sparrow talking to his imaginary clones or minaturized clones that stand and hang on his hair. It was so weird. The first half felt like The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. Literally. They even do that samething where the ocean is actually backwards and they have to flip to be on the right side. i'm not sure if you've seen that movie, but if you ever do. you'll understand what i mean. mostly the movie had that feeling most 3rd sequels have, like return of the jedi. Where every cast member some how end up together. even some enemies. its like they're smiling for the camera, look i'm that character you know and love from the last two films. lets ham it up, hehe. Jack Sparrow was well jack sparrow, but thats cool. Keith Richards was like king of the pirates. He made a great pirate. ILM (lucas's effect company) out does itself at the end with the special effects. the battle at sea with the whirlpool. amazing. probably garner them another Oscar nomination. so what happens at the end? will and elizabeth have to wait ten years to be together? i like the part where he took off elizabeth's boot and hugged and kissed her leg. hehe. i was like, its about time! hehe. i was cheering when the villian died. i hated that guy. everything was blowing up around him. i was like die already! lol. the ending kinda hints to a side project sequel called Jack Sparrow and the fountain of youth?
May 30, 2007, 11:09 a.m. CST
Industry Killer wrote the review that I was going to write. I can't see how anyone thought there were loose ends after watching this. Other than Jack's mystery connection to Beckett which the writers Ted and Terry already said on their website wrodplayer.com was a time/story edit, I think the story tied everything up. While I understand that people thought it was talky, I was never bored by it. I felt pretty heavily invested in these characters because of DMC, and even when I knew where the story was going, I was excited to go there. I agree with whoever said Jack has gone too far though. Who knows who is reposnsible for his de-evolution into a Looney Toon?
May 31, 2007, 1:49 a.m. CST
I almost fell asleep during the first two hours, and then the final showdown woke me up. Up until then, I was like: ``this movie just plain sucks''. And then: WHOA! It's the best friggin' pirate fighting sequence in existence, and if someone thinks he could make better, I would certainly like to see it. They have put everything one could have in a pirate movie in this one, and more. If it only had slightly less of the bizzarre stuff like brains-and-rock-that-is-actually-crab-licking, it would be perfect. And, HELL YEA! Keith Richards should have been THE Pirate King!
May 31, 2007, 1:54 a.m. CST
Liz comes to the shore with her son, who sings ``Yo ho ho, pirate life's for me''. The text ``Ten years later'' is displayed. They look in the distance, hoping for Will to show up. He does, and smiles back to them. And then there is a green flash and a blackout.
May 31, 2007, 2:40 a.m. CST
Sorry, but it is clearly said that The Flying Dutchman *must* have a captain. So no way he could ever come alive again. He can only die, by somebody taking his place stabbing his heart.
June 3, 2007, 7:50 a.m. CST
Man Calypso has a really bad case of crabs