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Zombie corrects MTV, says HALLOWEEN theme will be used!

Published at: March 10, 2007, 2:44 a.m. CST

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Rob Zombie has hit back at the MTV story that we reported on a couple days ago. You know, the one which reported that Zombie wasn't using John Carpenter's HALLOWEEN theme at all in his remake. He responded on his blog, but myspace is being a bitch and randomly shutting down, so I can't confirm, but I don't disbelieve it. He said it was a misunderstanding and he meant that he's decided to shelve HIS version of the theme, not the theme overall. I just wanted to run this because I'm getting a little tired of the emails coming in accusing me of slinging mud and printing bald face lies in order to knock on Zombie. MTV reported it in a giant piece complete with video interviews with Zombie and all the cast. It's not like I pulled it out of my ass. I even spent most of the article talking about what I liked in the behind the scenes piece. Bottom line... I read the script. It was bad. I still think he's making a mistake, but I'm not gunning for him to fail. I want him to make a good HALLOWEEN movie. Trust me, I want to see a good Rob Zombie directed HALLOWEEN flick more than I want to say, "I told ya' so."


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  • March 10, 2007, 2:49 a.m. CST

    I read it on his blog yesterday.

    by DerLanghaarige

    So, yes, it'S true that he never talked about not using the original theme.

  • March 10, 2007, 2:51 a.m. CST

    SCORE!

    by Darth Melkor

    I just read about this, and actually even emailed you Quint to see if you knew. I think I speak for all Halloween fans when I say "PHEW!"

  • March 10, 2007, 3:14 a.m. CST

    Who gives a shit, Zombie hasnt even made 1 good movie

    by quantize

    and im not scared of his phoney ass retard gothy shit neither.. learn something about Drama you sad industrial fuck..

  • March 10, 2007, 3:17 a.m. CST

    Seriously - Zombie needs to either go

    by Johnny Bond

    to film school somewheres or get back to just making music (that has kinda sucks too - 'cept back in the 90's, back then it was sweet)

  • March 10, 2007, 3:17 a.m. CST

    jfp

    by Quint

    And the MTV piece was a newer bit of news. And Langhaarige... I think he said they misunderstood him, not that he never said anything to begin with.

  • March 10, 2007, 3:18 a.m. CST

    Please excuse the grammar in my last post

    by Johnny Bond

    I have, after all, just returned from the bars :)

  • March 10, 2007, 3:24 a.m. CST

    loved corpses, loved rejects...

    by billy_hitchcock

    ....this is gonna fucking SUCK!!!!! stop it now!!! quint you should be trying to derail this as much as possible. this remake bullshit has gone too far now. it's one thing remaking avergae genre films but trying to remake a bone fide classic that transcends genre and time!!!!! seriously fucked up. just make a fucked up sequel, zombie you prick!!

  • March 10, 2007, 3:30 a.m. CST

    Did MTV show the 'Gotta take a shit' mask?

    by MaxTheSilent

    Because that's all most of us want to see.

  • March 10, 2007, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Be strong Quint

    by Boba Fat

    We know you don't pull this stuff out of your ass. That would be a whole different site.

  • March 10, 2007, 3:58 a.m. CST

    I look at it this way

    by Ridge

    When you read the Devils Rejects script, it came across as something that could quite easily become a massive joke. It was cliche ridden, it was just... I wont say terrible, but I will say generic. Oh...god...the 1k Corpses script? I think its hanging on my toilet wall somewhere lol. The point is, Zombies got an ability so far, to take an average/shit script and turn average to great and shit to decent. I think a lot of the problem with how people have reacted to the Halloween script, possibly Quint too, though no offense meant there, is that even though it's a remake, it's still its own movie. A straight remake would be frowned upon as much as a reimagining. Just ask Zack Snyder or James Gunn about the crucifying fans opted to do over Dawn 2004... until they saw it and praised it. Im not saying Halloween will be awful, Im not saying it will be great. A script is a good starting point to see how a product will turn out, but thats all it is. A starting point. So far visually, Michael looks like the BEST incarnation of Michael since part 1, possibly tied with part 1 for how great he looked in that. The actors they have are solid as hell, and the director, has showed he has the balls for exploitation horror. I hope Zombie can deliver, he's got my confidence in this project, but at the same time, Im not getting my hopes up. What's that equate to you say? It means that I'll just judge it after I've seen it. That's all.

  • March 10, 2007, 4:03 a.m. CST

    No real surprise

    by skeletonjack

    The thing is, the writing in both Rejects and Corpses is terrible so why should it be a surprise to anyone that his Halloween script is also bad? Zombie knows where to point a camera no doubt about that, but his dialogue and characterisation is well wide of the mark. I'm sure he has a great horror film in him somewhere I'd just like to see him direct someone elses script.

  • March 10, 2007, 4:06 a.m. CST

    Ridge

    by RedwingsHoolihan

    Well said

  • March 10, 2007, 4:39 a.m. CST

    I will wait for the dvd.

    by mrfan

    It should only be a couple of weeks before this turd hits the local Blockbuster.

  • March 10, 2007, 4:41 a.m. CST

    Ridge

    by TheBigDogg

    You have a very good point. Both Corpses and Rejects were better than they had any right to be given the scripts.

  • March 10, 2007, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Zombie dons the GOTTA USE THE THEME mask

    by Doctor_Sin

    Snivelling little bitch

  • March 10, 2007, 6:07 a.m. CST

    this movie should not be made

    by roccotheripper

    i thought H20 was going to be the last one cause it was SO BAD! and then they come out with another one that looked so shitty that I didn't even bother to see it. I like what Zombie did with The Devil's Rejects. But I don't care who you are, this franchise needs to DIE!

  • March 10, 2007, 7:35 a.m. CST

    I hope you can say "told ya so" and that this will bomb

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Before someone lets this miserable scum remake "The Exorcist." Which he would probably title "Rob Zombie's X-orcist" and which would feature 40 minutes of the possessed girl puking blood, all filmed with a shaking camera.

  • March 10, 2007, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Zombie's great ability is turning shitty scripts...

    by JackPumpkinhead

    ...into shittier films. Such as House of 1000 Cruds and Devil's Retards (of which I could actually stand about 10 minutes, before the constantly shaking camera made me think there was an earthquake and I turned the TV off. And thank heavens I did.)

  • March 10, 2007, 7:55 a.m. CST

    "Gotta take a shit" mask leaked

    by JackPumpkinhead

    http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3812/robzombieshalloweendg1.jpg

  • March 10, 2007, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Heh, Devil's Retards...

    by TheBigDogg

    I see what you did there. Very good. You should be very proud.

  • March 10, 2007, 8:54 a.m. CST

    at least

    by rdsxfan8

    at least the director is actually a fan of the genre and it shows. I liked both his movies, and its apparent from reading the responses in the TB's that no matter what he does with this film people are gonna shit all over him. Why not hold out judgement until ya see the final product. it has been stated that the scripts for both his previous movies were shit when they were written but if ya watch the final products they arent actually as bad as the scripts may have led many to believe. im not saying they are citizen kane or anything, but seriously...... Ive seen worse, ( cough Bloodrayne....) and as far as the theme goes, i watched the mtv clips yesterday. there was a question posed to him about using it, and he kinda brushed it off with some off hand remark... but in no way did he say he would NEVER use it. it was a case of misunderstanding what he was getting at. I mean the guy is already takign crap for his script and he prolly hasnt even shot many scenes yet. thats gotta way on ya as a director. He knows hes got a franchise on his hands that is iconic to many horror fans ( myself included) and he knows if he fucks it up, regardless of if it makes money, he will always have that stigma as being the guy who "made a ahitty unnecessary Hallooween related film) so thats gotta weigh on him a bit. ill go see this one. I mean it cant be any worse than some of the other recent horror movies that have come out in the past 5 yrs. I wonder if hes gonna try and work some of the other Devils rejects and 1K corpses people in their somehow. Sid Haig gotta eat too. All Im saying is give the guy a chance. his visions may not be the same as yours but hes the one with the rights to direct this and not us so lets give him the benefit of the doubt before we shot all over the guy.

  • March 10, 2007, 9:07 a.m. CST

    who gives a shit about the script review?

    by WolfmanNards

    The only reason anybody's up in artms about what Zombie may or may not be doing to what you guys are suddenly considering your precious little franchise is because of that script review that was posted on this site. Frankly, whatever script there is for this movie will only serve as layout for the production of the film. Movies like this do not rely on the script they rely on decisions mostly made during production and post production. When slasher films, especially Halloween films try to get plot heavy, it is distracting and generally makes for a crappy halloween movie. Even Carpenters original Halloween likely had a rather dull script. Come on. The movie was originally gonna be called The Babysitter Murders. Christ. There have been some steaming shit nuggets in this franchise. Be glad to know that this one can't possibly steam as much as, say, the last five. Not with the director of devil's rejects behind the camera.

  • March 10, 2007, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Old Hollywood saying...

    by Kraken

    You can make a bad movie from a great script. But you can't make a good movie from a bad script. A lot of filmmakers and producers say it isn't fair to review scripts. Well, on some points I agree with that. But at the same time they could also (and do) say that actual movie reviews before the film's release are not fair either. Those can be just as biased and harmful to a film as an early script review. So you can't really go by what people think is fair when it comes to reviews. I think reviewing a script can be valid if it's done as a review of a "concept" and not a film. I don't thin Quint's HALLOWEEN script review was anything but him criticizing the tone and the "concept" of this new film, not some psychic ability to look into the future and review the finished movie. Sure, it's possible that with some story editing, excellent directing and editing that Rob might pull a flawed concept off and wow the audience enough with X-Treme Halloween. We'll see. But he has to realize by playing to one crowd (the extreme horror group)by turning Myers into Vorhees, he's going to turn a lot of other horror fans (and general audience members) off. Now is that any reason for him to change his style or this story? Probably not. But to stick to his vision and guns, he's going to have to also be willing to hear the shit when he shakes everything up for good or bad. I'm really hoping he pulls it off. I love horror films, and I never want to see one fail because it's such a delicate genre to get films made within and one failure puts the next great horror project at risk. I think that's why people are so bummed out and protective of the genre when something looks like it's going to be shitty (especially involving a beloved set of characters), and we complain out of hopes we can be heard while there is still something that can be done about it.

  • March 10, 2007, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Deja Vu

    by Miller Mortuary

    While the idea of Zombie remaking Halloween sounds less than appealing, I thought the same way about the announcement of the Dawn of the Dead remake. While Rob Zombie is no Zack Snyder, I'm going to wait and see what happens. I really don't see where all the anger comes from. I'm a Halloween fan and freely admit that the sequels have sucked since part 4, which kind of sucked as well. This can't possibly be worse than the last two sequels, can it?

  • March 10, 2007, 9:35 a.m. CST

    re: WolfmanNards

    by Kraken

    I think a lot of the problem that people have with this new remake IS that it sounds like it's too plot heavy. Explaining away the mythos of the Myers character. Also, what you're saying about the sequels being shitty is true. But I'm not going to have the Montel abused housewife syndrome attitude towards the films I know are coming. I don't like the idea of "just take what you're given, you should be happy it's a punch in the gut and not the face this time". But then again I'm sure Rob Zombie is a good man, he loves us.

  • March 10, 2007, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Romb Zombie is no Zack Synder?

    by andrew coleman

    Is that a compliment or an insult? Halloween needed a face lift I don't know if a complete remake needed to happen. If it sucks then there won't be another one and the series will die. Well until Freddy vs. Jason vs. Michael Myers happens which hopefully Ash comes in and kills all three of them HA!

  • March 10, 2007, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Didn't take robzom long to get THAT memo,did it?

    by TORTURE PWN

    The memos from Dimension are probably flying at him like arrows in "300".

  • March 10, 2007, 10:43 a.m. CST

    if it sucks

    by rdsxfan8

    thats just it, even if the film sucks as long as IT makes money, and ya know it will, than there will be plenty more sequels of prequels of sequels. and just because WE think it sucks on here, and it rightfully could, there could still be tons of people out there who will see it just because it has the names "Halloween" and "Rob Zombie" attached to it. havent you learned anything from hollywood? when a movie like "Wild Hogs " opens up at #1 at the Box Office the quality of the films dont matter as long as they make money. Hollywood rarely at all cares about what the fans want from a film and when they think they do and try to make a film that "caters" to the fans, we get "Snakes on a plane" that is why I am glad there are a few directors out there who are actual fans of the genres they make and take that into consideration when choosing projects and making movies. You cant please everyone all the time, and its never been more truer than with the film industry. there are always gonna be people who are pissed off by how a movie comes out. If Rob Zombie were to make the ultimate "halloween" movie and it was praised by horror fans, than casual movie goers would be turned off. and since its the casual ones that spend a majority of the money at the box offices, sometimes we have to settle for mediocre horror films and just kinda be glad we're seeing any at all. But all this is just my humble opinion and i could be completely wrong, just like I might be wrong for giving Rob the benefit of the doubt and letting the final work speak for itself insted of coming on here and trashin the guy for even daring to take a stab at such an iconic franchise.....

  • March 10, 2007, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Does he have a Gotta Eat Shit Mask?

    by monkeykingjim

    It's a valid question.

  • March 10, 2007, 10:50 a.m. CST

    The first 3 mins

    by kingoflight

    will be the biggest give away to how good this film is. Lets face it if they don't have that cool one take intro then this movie can go to hell. This best be that stupid cunts first good movie or alot of fans will be pissed. Then he'll be free to rape it as much as he wants.

  • March 10, 2007, 10:54 a.m. CST

    ATTENTION: JackPumpkinhead

    by Gwai L0

    At what specific time code (minute and second) in the MTV Halloween special does the GOTTA TAKE A SHIT MASK appear? Please let me know. Or is it really in there at all??! <p> I have the special TIVOed, but I don't want to watch the whole thing.

  • March 10, 2007, 11:18 a.m. CST

    I find it funny

    by Gwai Lo

    That someone registered my user ID to ask the question I was about to ask again. So Vern, what page is the gotta take a shit mask on?

  • March 10, 2007, 11:18 a.m. CST

    I actually

    by Gwai Lo

    Stared in confusion at that post wondering if maybe I did write it until I noticed the 0 instead of the o

  • March 10, 2007, 11:33 a.m. CST

    and TORTURE PWN,re: earlier talkback

    by Gwai L0

    You know, I didn't ask for all that, I just wanted to know the page number! I know the mask wouldn't "appear," it's only a script! What, you think a script is some kind of magical script, where I read it and the GOTTA TAKE A SHIT MASK "appears," comes sliding out of my CD drive? Of course it's only mentioned, it's a script, mentioning things is all a script can do. But on what PAGE NUMBER is it mentioned? I have the script, TORTURE_PWN, I have it right here, but as I may have mentioned, I do not want to read the whole thing. Thus I ask very politely for a page number.

  • March 10, 2007, noon CST

    GOTTA-TAKE-A GWAI LO

    by TORTURE PWN

    4 posts in a row + all of your many posts in the last HALLOWEEN talkback + begging on COMPLETELY UNRELATED talkbacks + trying to talk OTHER talkbackers into joining your quest to the degree that you would have them look for your "friend" on OTHER talkbacks.Don't you think that's a bit much for a throwaway line in a rob zombie(of all people) script?Seriously,don't you think you're a bit strange?You have the fucking script,just grow a pair and read the fucking thing yourself.And by the way,Poopy,I meant that the mask wouldn't actually appear in the movie,not "pop out of your CD drive".Dumbass.

  • March 10, 2007, 12:08 p.m. CST

    ROB ZOMBIE RAPED MY CHILDHOOD

    by Elmore Rigby

    pwn4g3

  • March 10, 2007, 12:09 p.m. CST

    You people just don't understand me.

    by Gwai L0

    Somewhere out there, beneath the bright klieg lights, <br> a script with a GOTTA TAKE A SHIT MASK<br> is on my mind tonight. <p> Somewhere out there, I'm saying a Talkback prayer, <br> that I'll be told the Page Number, <br> and the SHIT MASK will be there. <p> And even though I have the script right here on my PC <br> I don't want to read the whole thing, <br> won't somebody please help me? <p> For when the night wind starts to sing a lonesome lullaby, <br> it helps to think the moon's a GOTTA-TAKE-A-SHIT-MASK, <br> grimacing from the sky. <p> Somewhere out there,<br> in the Talkbacks' verbal brawls, <br> I'll learn what page my MASK is on, <br> and if it's in the script at all.

  • March 10, 2007, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Gwai Lo has the script. Yeah. Right.

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    I just got done watching Natalie Portman go down on Kate Winslet. Its a weekly thing for us.

  • March 10, 2007, 12:17 p.m. CST

    at least....

    by The Dum Guy

    You know Al-Quada (sp?) is to blame for this, if they hadn't done their bombings we wouldn't be getting Rob Zombie's Halloween, no we'd get the sequel to Hallowen: Resurrection.

  • March 10, 2007, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Give us ONE paragraph....from the first page even.

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    Nah, you wouldn't want to waste your time reading it, right? What the fuck are you doing on this talkback then, tool?

  • March 10, 2007, 12:19 p.m. CST

    GOTTA-TAKE-A-GWAI-LO Pt.2

    by TORTURE PWN

    Why the fuck would you bother downloading the script if you're not even going to read it?

  • March 10, 2007, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Gwai LO,it's on page 27

    by TORTURE PWN

    Right between the "GOTTA-EAT-THIS-CORN"and the "GOTTA-STOP-EATING-SO-MUCH-CHEESE"references.

  • March 10, 2007, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Torture Pwn he is too busy reading the Watchmen script

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    Once he gets through with that and Wonder Woman, I'm sure he'll be able to finally find the 'Gotta Take a Shit Mask' page. Of course, by then the movie will be in release, possibly on video already.

  • March 10, 2007, 12:39 p.m. CST

    He's probably spanking it to Rorschach's mask

    by TORTURE PWN

    because it looks like a "you-know-what".

  • March 10, 2007, 1:19 p.m. CST

    You know even Dimension's scared when...

    by TORTURE PWN

    they won't release a movie with almost 30 years worth of name recognition,an iconic villain and actually CALLED HALLOWEEN on Halloween against the 4th movie in a franchise.

  • March 10, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Well that's a major relief then!!!

    by football

    So run that past me again. Rob Ghoulie has ditched his death metal version and is reinstating the original? Good to know, so when I avoid this trash in the multiplex I'll also be missing the classic tune. I'm now consider myself informed.

  • March 10, 2007, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Sigmar25 could you send me a copy of the script?

    by JohnNadaUK

    It'd be much appreciated. Thank you.

  • March 10, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST

    To his credit....

    by Ray Gamma

    Most scripts you read (from movies that went on to be great) actually read like an 18-year-old moron wrote them. It always amazes me, when I go researching the script for something classic, and the script just comes across as corny, when in fact you realise that the film had a lot more to it. So, give him a chance. But yeah I agree with whoever said something about corny phony industrial/goth 'scare' movies; goths are not scary at all, they are childish and goofy and theatrical.

  • March 10, 2007, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Pics of Michael are up!!

    by JediX

    Goto www.Halloweenmovies.com and click on the Rob Zombie's Halloween Link on the Homepage. Two shots of Michael and a group shot of Laurie, Annie and Lynda.

  • March 10, 2007, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Crazy Germans are this years monkeys!

    by TORTURE PWN

    Every movie should have one.zombie should have cast the great Udo Kier as Loomis."To know DEATH you have to fuck LIFE in the GOTTA-TAKE-A-SHIT-MASK!"And who wouldn't love seeing a crazy german running around ranting about "pure evil".Kier would've PWNED the role.I submit we add crazy Germans to the list of "movie-enhancers" that already includes monkeys and midgets.All in favor say "Aye!"

  • March 10, 2007, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Rob's movies are fine for what they are...

    by Oneironaut420

    But I don't see Halloween fitting into his style. The original movie was a classic because it WASN'T a slasher flick. There's no gore in it at all, it is closer to a Hitchcock film. Rob's style fits for something like House of 1k corpses, but Halloween is not suited for that at all. I also don't like how they are explaining too much about Michael Myers. There's a recent trend to "flesh out a backstory" for these killers, but Michael Myers is scary because he is so mysterious. As John Carpenter said, he's a force a nature, the reason why he's so scary is because you DON'T know where the rage is coming from, and therefore he can't be talked down or reasoned with.

  • March 10, 2007, 2:26 p.m. CST

    RE: Kraken

    by WolfmanNards

    I see what you mean, totally. I just think that of all the film scripts out there, this one should be the least of our concern. The only accurate way to predict the outcome of this movie would be for us to go inside Rob Zombie's head and witness what his overall vision for this the final product will be, which is impossible.

  • March 10, 2007, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Another place to see Myers Pic!

    by JediX

    As well as Malcolm McDowell as Loomis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_(2007_film)

  • March 10, 2007, 3:51 p.m. CST

    TOO ZOMBIE ! !

    by Pound Sand

  • March 10, 2007, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Oneironaut420

    by TheBigDogg

    With all due respect, saying Halloween is not a slasher flick because it doesn't have much gore makes you an idiot. Halloween is the definitive slasher film.

  • March 10, 2007, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Typically, Harry doesn't gun for anybody...

    by JAGUART

    Unless its a republican.

  • March 10, 2007, 4:43 p.m. CST

    All Halloweens Come Out In August

    by Darth Melkor

    This new one, H20 and Resurrection were all summer releases. The last Halloween to come out in October was part 6, and it was box office DOA. I want the movie in October, but I understand releasing it in summer for finanicial reasons. I wish they could put it out in early October. Saw is coming Halloween weeked as always. It's a yearly tradition now :)

  • March 10, 2007, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Yeah, a yearly tradition,

    by GaiustheBrave

    Yeah, a yearly tradition, just like staring into that full bowl of candy and wondering why no one wants my butterscotch hard candies. Because they're good enough, that's why. It's not all that bad. If we wanted a Halloween like the first, then we have the first. I figure the whole point is to see something new. Don't get me wrong, I was disappointed with the way they're handling Micheal, and this will probably suck, but you can't blame them for trying something new.

  • March 10, 2007, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Hardly a slasher film, BigDog

    by Oneironaut420

    There is no gore at ALL in the original Halloween, and even the original filmmakers, including John Carpenter, consider it to be an exploitation/slasher film. In fact, it was a label they tried hard to fight. It is more in line with Hitchcock films and Touch of Evil than with Friday the 13th. The emphasis in Halloween is on mood, suspense and anticipation and not on blood and violence. Halloween II was definitely more of a true slasher film because it intentionally mimicked Friday the 13th and other movies like it, which is probably why it is considered to be an inferior film (though I enjoy it too). It's like calling Psycho a slasher film just because of the shower scene, when really it's more of a psyhological thriller. Just because there's a guy with a knife in Halloween doesn't make it a slasher film, at least not one like Rob Zombie's other movies. Calling me an idiot just for pointing this out says much more about the level you're down on than about me. ;-)

  • March 10, 2007, 6:25 p.m. CST

    oops

    by Oneironaut420

    I mean the original filmmakers DO NOT consider it an exploitation/slasher film. Wish there was an Edit feature here...

  • March 10, 2007, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Ridge

    by darthbinks1220

    Carpenter's Halloween is a landmark, groundbreaking film. Zombie's will probably never be that. It may be, however, a very good movie. The plot of the '78 classic had style, and substance. It is a masterful story.... so much so, that it has room to expand, and become so much more. Zombie, by adding backstory, thus making the plot more character driven, may be able to tap a nerve in audiences a way the original did.

  • March 10, 2007, 7:11 p.m. CST

    DarthBinks

    by Darth Melkor

    I agree. I'm not looking for this new movie to replace the old one. I'm not even expecting it to come anywhere close to matching it. I am however looking forward to seeing a new Michael Myers film, and seeing what Zombie does to it, for good or bad. I mean after the last couple of Halloween films I'm excited about something new and interesting. Would people have preferred Halloween 9: Michael Myers takes Disneyworld?

  • March 10, 2007, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Zombie announced that he would use the score already

    by nopix

    a long time ago, when he was promoting it on a radio station. He said Carpenter's theme is great so he would most likely plan to use it.

  • March 10, 2007, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Not a slasher flick at all.

    by Darth Melkor

    The sequels were all slasher movies. The first one is more of a suspense film. There's a crazy low body count, and most of the kills are stealth kills. There's very little blood in the movie at all. Part 2 became a gory slasher movie, but 1 was like a Hithcock movie, scares based on mood and music. That's why the original rules.

  • March 10, 2007, 8:07 p.m. CST

    JohnNadaUK: I could...

    by Sigmar 25

    I very well could indeed... is there any specific reason you want it?

  • March 10, 2007, 8:50 p.m. CST

    "Gwai L0" isn't me

    by Gwai Lo

    I didn't make four posts in a row. And yes I do indeed have the script, it is quite easy to find actually.. Take a look on the IMDB boards..

  • March 10, 2007, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Halloween

    by DuncanDisorderly

    The only horror film that didn't need "re-making" or "re-imagining"...

  • March 10, 2007, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Goddamnit.

    by SebastianHaff

    I'm sick of this 'psychological thriller' horseshit. Halloween did not "thrill" me. It fucking scared the shit out of me. And despite its lack of gore, I’ll always consider it a slasher movie. More like THE slasher movie, really. If you guys think a flick has to be overly gory to fit the term, then I guess Prom Night doesn’t count. Splatter University? Nope. Slumber Party Massacre? No, sir. Hell, if you define slasher flicks by gore, not even the original Friday the 13th counts! Why do so many people get pissy about the term ‘slasher’? It’s a legitimate subgenre, and while there is a whole lot of shit made within it, there’s just as much gold in there. So Halloween was artistically directed, that doesn’t mean it ain’t slasher, it means it’s a fucking well made slasher!

  • March 10, 2007, 11:31 p.m. CST

    It was HALLOWEEN that STARTED the slasher genre

    by TORTURE PWN

    Sure,there were others before it,PSYCHO and the original BLACK CHRISTMAS,to name two.But it never became a genre in and of itself until the spate of imitations inspired by HALLOWEEN.

  • March 11, 2007, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Torture Pwn is right

    by TheBigDogg

    You don't have to take my word for it - do a little research into the slasher sub-genre of horror and you're going to find the word, 'Halloween'. As Torture Pwn points out, Psycho is a slasher. But it wasn't until Halloween defined the genre and the floodgates opened (creating a need for a label) that they became known as slashers. Halloween is a slasher, plain and simple.

  • March 11, 2007, 3:12 a.m. CST

    He iw going to screw this up...

    by xXRedflyXx

    Zombie does not know how to make anything suspenseful. He is all about his stylized gore and tits shit that is just an idiotic rehash of all of his White Zombie and Rob Zombie videos and songs. There will be nothing interesting or redeeming about this film. House of 1000 Corpses in a Shatner mask? I will pass.

  • March 11, 2007, 3:12 a.m. CST

    is

    by xXRedflyXx

    he IS going to screw this up.

  • March 11, 2007, 5:46 a.m. CST

    Fuckin told ya so.

    by onemanarmy

    Eat my ass Childe Roland.

  • March 11, 2007, 11:55 a.m. CST

    TORTURE PWN

    by mr. brownstone

    aye.

  • March 11, 2007, 11:58 a.m. CST

    they should release it on September 28th.

    by mr. brownstone

    because I know everything.

  • March 11, 2007, 2:14 p.m. CST

    What page is the GOTTA TAKE A SHIT MASK on?

    by Elgyn6655321

    Bwahaha, just kidding!

  • March 11, 2007, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Fuck you Zombie

    by TheLastAngryMan

    Just checked out the halloween website, got to say what a pile of shit this entire thing is turning out to be. I am sick and tired of these fucking horror remakes, as well as the idiotic talkbackers who seem to have given up complaining about remakes, and now accept them as part of hollywood culture. Dickheads, if you spent less time going on about what you do and dont want in a remake, and just stopped going to see these fucking films, they would stop making them. For fucks sake. Plus, i noticed Zombie has put his face on the halloween website home page, the cheeky cunt, as if he has anything to do with what made the halloween films famous. Fuck off Zombie, your earlier films were shite, this is going to be shite, fucking kill yourself shitwit. Also Quint (who i usually slag off for bigging up these kind on films (wicker man, the fog)), dont be afraid to slate this film before it comes out, Zombie and anyone else involved in this abortion deserves it.

  • March 11, 2007, 4:51 p.m. CST

    The original is flawless.

    by one9deuce

    I just watched it again after not seeing it for a few years and it is absolutely brilliant. John Carpenter's direction is perfect, the music is genius, Michael Myers is FUCKING TERRIFYING, the cinematography is fantastic, and the story is interesting. <p> Rob Zombie's remake will have some brilliant elements...........<p> Unfortunately, those elements (the mask, the music) were already used in the original.

  • March 11, 2007, 6:25 p.m. CST

    What I don't understand...

    by Richard Cranium

    Is why anybody would even WANT to remake anything so well remembered and highly regarded. No matter how well you do it, is it even possible to live up to the original? Aren't you just setting yourself up for failure? They've tried this over and over, and the only time it's even come close to working was in the Dawn of the Dead remake...

  • March 11, 2007, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Darth Melkor

    by darthbinks1220

    Agreed. We don't need a Halloween 9. I love to see a new generation of fans introduced to this tale of terror. Hitchcock remade The Man Who Knew Too Much. He got it right the second time. Let's hope Rob hits a homerun here. I think he will.

  • March 11, 2007, 6:58 p.m. CST

    one9deuce

    by darthbinks1220

    You hit the nail on the head w/ your assessment of the '78 masterwork. Carpenter's Halloween is perfection. True Rob is borrowing the mask and score..... but, the new mask is terrific. Btw, love the remake's used jumpsuit look. Tyler Mane is a fucking monster of a man. Yet, like Zombie says, not a muscle-bound hulk. He's a good choice to portray this psychologically shattered uber-villain. As for using Carpenter's score--- It just wouldn't be Halloween w/out it.

  • March 11, 2007, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Why does he want to remake a perfect film, you wonder?

    by JackPumpkinhead

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - that's why. That's the one and only reason. As if you didn't know...

  • March 11, 2007, 7:45 p.m. CST

    JackPumpkinhead -MAX PAYNE MASK

    by brokenheadstuff

    nice. poop poop indeed.

  • March 11, 2007, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Faith in Zombie!!

    by jojo-pimp

    I'm sorry, but after the huge leap of progress in his directing between House of 1k Corpses, and The Devil's Rejects, I am confident Rob can put a new spin on a classic film. It's just funny, that some people are so pissed about this. I guarantee that even though this may not be as good as the orginal, it will definately be better than all the lackluster sequels that followed it.

  • March 11, 2007, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Rob Zombie is bad....

    by pdennett316

    not Uwe Boll bad, but close. I like the idea of trying something new with Halloween, I just don't think this useless fuck is the one to try. Fucking McG would be a better choice, well, not really but you know what I'm saying.

  • March 11, 2007, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Halloween Remake

    by calnorso

    Rob Zombie is going to destroy a classic, he should leave his crappy writing for his own movies

  • March 11, 2007, 11:24 p.m. CST

    There's as much chance of zombie making a good movie..

    by TORTURE PWN

    as there is of Ewe Boll making one thats merely OK.

  • March 11, 2007, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Dawn of the Dead remake

    by one9deuce

    Since when is that film highly regarded? It didn't turn out shitty, so is that what constitutes a successful remake? The original is very clever, with some great subtext. The new one is a well made film about people trying to get away from zombies. That's it. Nothing more than that.

  • March 12, 2007, 1:29 a.m. CST

    ZOMBIE isn't remaking the movie...

    by Darth Melkor

    DIMENSION IS. Before you jump down his throat for remaking a classic let's get something straight. It's Dimension film who is doing it. They would be doing it with or without Rob Zombie. If they hadn't hired Zombie, they would've hired the next guy.

  • March 12, 2007, 1:50 a.m. CST

    ZOMBIE BLOG ABOUT AICN

    by Darth Melkor

    "I just read an AIN'T IT COOL NEWS story that says that I was in A RAGE after reading their review of the HALLOWEEN script. They heard this from some close friends or something like that. Well, I fell off my chair laughing. First off I never read their review since I knew whatever they were reviewing was some old script and I certainly wouldn't be in a rage about anything. I'm too exhausted from working on the film to have any RAGE left over. It's all good times over here. I tell ya this internet stuff gets funnier and funnier. I don't normally ever look at this stuff, but someone send it to me and I thought it was really a hoot."

  • March 12, 2007, 1:51 a.m. CST

    if you could make this movie..

    by gusradio

    oh never mind.. you can't create shit. so run you goddamn mouth instead. In REAL LIFE Rob Zombie will create this film.. not some idea of a film or ideas of what would make a great film but he'll actually jump through all the hoops bust his ass and create his vision of Halloween.. guess what, you'll never even make a fan film of Halloween.. so suck zombies dick.

  • March 12, 2007, 2:20 a.m. CST

    gusradio you can't even make sense

    by TORTURE PWN

    much less make a film.

  • March 12, 2007, 2:36 a.m. CST

    So what's the last line of this thing gonna be anyway?

    by TORTURE PWN

    LAURIE:"Was that the boogeyman?" LOOMIS:"As a matter of fact,it was some guy whose step-dad beat him,his mom was a stripper,and he couldn't take a shit without changing his mask." LAURIE:"Oh..." Pepper with generous,random usage of the word "fuck",and there ya go.

  • March 12, 2007, 3:35 a.m. CST

    I created shit 3 minutes ago gusradio...

    by onemanarmy

    now however I call refer to it as "taking a gusradio."

  • March 12, 2007, 3:37 a.m. CST

    minus the word call...

    by onemanarmy

    Hahaha! The smell of that last "gusradio" I took is clouding my senses.

  • March 12, 2007, 3:39 a.m. CST

    AICN feeds off of MTV?

    by onemanarmy

    Please say it ain't so. At least stick to reliable sources of information. Harry & Co. you're better than that.

  • March 12, 2007, 5:27 a.m. CST

    He's a bit of an Ass

    by winebot

    As a horror film buff, I would expect Rob Zombie to step down. Why he even took the job in the first place is a mystery to me. A sequel--fine, although a bone-head play as well. But a remake? It's arrogant and very irritating. If he had any real reverence for the genre instead of a desire to out-do filmmakers far more talented than him, he would have turned this paycheck down. It will backfire and hugely diminish his credibility--just ask Gus Van Sant. And going into Michael Meyers' childhood is just padding a story where simplicity is key. It's like "High Noon", John Carpenter said himself. Shame on this whole production.

  • March 12, 2007, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Zombie shouldn't be making films....

    by xXRedflyXx

    I mean come on guys. I understand he claims to be this huge horror movie fan, and if that claim is true then he needs to stop making horror films. He is regurgitating everything he has seen into his films. House of 1000 corpses was a perfect example of that. If Zombie continues on this project he will have proved himself as a derivative and mindless filmmaker. It could be argued that House of 1000 Corpses was a remake. If he was such a horror buff he would not jump on this "Let's make mediocre remakes of perfectly good films". The only reasonable remake I have seen in this orgy of unoriginailty has been the Dawn of the Dead remake, but in the end it wasn't the same film and it couldn't be. Was the remake of Dawn necessary, probably not. Would anyone have noticed if it was never remade, probably not. Would it have been more beneficial to pour money into something more original, defiantly. Unfortunately the Halloween remake will pull in all of Zombies fans that love to beat off to his film and probably rake in decent cash. So then we will see at least 2 more sequels that will go down in quality with each release. This film will be as unforgivably awful as House of 1000 Corpses. I can guarantee it. But at least this time Zombie can admit that he didn't come up with his own ideas for the film.

  • March 12, 2007, 7:28 a.m. CST

    CORPSES was terrible, REJECTS was okay

    by Halloween68

    CORPSES was like a bad remake of the terribly adapted LURKING FEAR. It was a bad script. The story had been done to death. The only good thing about the flick was the stuff that went on at the freakshow convenience story the main weirdos were running. REJECTS was a poorman's CHAINSAW MASSACRE/NATURAL BORN KILLERS. It wasn't all that original, but at least it seemed Zombie was starting to hit his stride as a director. At least that one was put together reasonably well. And you can definitely tell he's establishing a voice.

  • March 12, 2007, 10:06 a.m. CST

    I read the IMDB boards and the film sounds shittier

    by Doctor_Sin

    Especially the link they posted to retroslasher.com's script review. They mention the GOTTA TAKE A SHIT mask, too. And there's a pic of young Mike - he looks like a little metalhead kid doing the post-Misfits "stare up from under your furrowed brow" looks. Bah!<p> I read about the SPOILERY problematic bits of the script that probably won't be in the film. All I gotta say is, if Mike is stalking by DRIVING and he kills a 9 year-old girl, I am walking. This film WILL SUCK.<p>So, Zombie spends all this time giving us a real-world killer, then proceeds to show off an adult superhuman, unkillable monster? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING, ZOMBIE? YOU GODDAMN FUCKWIT!

  • March 12, 2007, 11:09 a.m. CST

    nope, stil hate the idea of this

    by Lost Prophet

    theme tune or not. <p> At least this means Carpenter will be well rewarded for his masterpiece getting raped.

  • March 12, 2007, 11:50 a.m. CST

    a remake is the logical next step for cummings

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    obviously originality is not this dude's strong point. He's probably totally creatively exhausted after the totally fresh and original imaginative efforts of his first two films, so now Hollywood rewards him by giving him this property to desecrate. <p> The suits say "you know, at first I had my doubts about this 'Zombie' fellow, what with his wild ICP makeup and crying jags, but it turns out that under it all he's just another creatively bankrupt money-hungry remake monkey like all the rest of us film execs. Let's give him 'The Thing,' next, I hear he wants to re-envision it as taking place in a crazy rock-n-roll trailer park full of x-game athletes, sounds great to me."

  • March 12, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Rob Zombie = Doctor Roxxo

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    think about it.

  • March 12, 2007, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Re: Dawn of the Dead remake

    by Richard Cranium

    I don't think the remake will ever be considered an all time classic, but it's not universally hated either. That puts it 1 step above most horror remakes. I'm not losing any sleep over this whole deal since even if it sucks, it won't do anything to ruin the original. It'll still be there. My only question is if he's presumably trying to be taken seriously as a director, why give yourself such a mountain to climb right off the bat? Why not just make your own movie that's in the spirit of 'Halloween'? But, as long as his wife is in the flick naked, it'll at least have some redeeming value.

  • March 12, 2007, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Dawn of the Dead remake was important for 1 reason

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    it got the suits to greenlight "Land of the Dead," which I fucking LOVED. Seriously, sitting in a hoity-toity St. Petersburg mega-mall theater and seeing that crazy fucking Romero goodness up on the megaplex big screen is a treasured memory for me. And then walking out into the mall afterwards, looked exactly like the tower from the movie... good stuff. <p> Anyway, the Dawn remake gets an almost-pass from me for that reason, but then you look at the FOG remake, the TEXAS CHAINSAW remake(s), the HOUSE OF WAX remake etc etc etc etc.

  • March 12, 2007, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Halloween 2 hate...

    by Cellar Door

    Ok ok...so it's nothing compared to the first one but you've gotta admit that the 'walking straight through the glass door' scene is kewler than any one scene in any of the sequels!<p><p><p>I hope Zombie can pull this off...he's definitely got the look of Myers down but all that supposed back-story stuff equals suck. Of course, as a huge Halloween (and old skewl Carpenter) fan, I'm a bit leery but I'm definitely hoping Zombie can pull it off. And I can't say I really cared for House or Rejects. Tho anything with Sid Haig can't be all bad! Wait till the Thing remake gets going and how much keyrap is talked on the TB's then!

  • March 12, 2007, 12:59 p.m. CST

    The new Meyers' house

    by Doctor_Sin

    http://tinyurl.com/ys7f5x<p>They get points because it's near the street where the house in Carpenter's original was. And, I give them that the cast, as on the Halloween.com website looks good.<p>There, enough blowjobbery.<p>Based on what I have heard of the script, this film smells like sewage. Yeah, they got the Look right, but I think even the most fun popcorn movie needs more than eye-candy. It needs a good story. So far, this still sounds like bullshit.

  • March 12, 2007, 1:54 p.m. CST

    zombie should stay home and fuck his hot girlfriend,

    by dirty john

    and stay away from music and film. all he has proven is that he can take good ideas and mess them up. devil's reject's and 1000's corpses were blatant, 2nd rate, chainsaw rip-offs, and the director's cut of halloween is untouchable. what's next? is trent reznor going to remake happy birthday to me?

  • March 12, 2007, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Zombie Corrects MTV Says GOTTA TAKE A SHIT MASK is in!

    by Doctor_Sin

  • March 12, 2007, 4:03 p.m. CST

    And if you do like zombie...

    by TORTURE PWN

    then you're a poor judge of talent and the film fan equivalent of a "shiza" porn star.Hey zombie,velocinapper likes it when you eat lots of cheese!

  • March 12, 2007, 4:17 p.m. CST

    I'm going to pass on your ass...

    by Childe Roland

    ...onemanarmy. I prefer fresher, less-well-used meals. As for your "told you so" moment, if you care to recall, I wasn't taking issue with the subject or content of your post in the other talkback so much as your method of delivery. You were then and remain now, an amusingly creepy little angry fucker. Even creepier now that I know I was so far under your skin for so long. Cheers.

  • March 12, 2007, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Zombie: Leave Halloween alone you idiot !!!

    by Mogwai Democracy

    How do you think you could possibly improve on that movie?<br><br>"I know! Let's explore Michaels background so, y'know, there's no mystery and people won't have to use their imaginations and stuff."<br><br>I don't want to know crap about Michaels background! He was called "the Shape" for a reason. The ultimate fear is fear of the unknown. This is the most basic "horror movie 101" concept.<br><br> Make something NEW and leave the classics alone.

  • March 12, 2007, 7:56 p.m. CST

    8)

    by onemanarmy

    I love you too Roland. <p> My point was that again, this site was wrong and the masses had gathered and a lynch mob was formed. All...over...bad info. <p> This pint is for you friend.

  • March 12, 2007, 8:01 p.m. CST

    I was waiting for someone who

    by TORTURE PWN

    knew their shit to correct me.Thanks velocicrapper!

  • March 12, 2007, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Cheers!

    by TORTURE PWN

    See ya on the next zombie talkback you old fudge muncher!re:"pwn" look it up.