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Rob Zombie shows MTV some HALLOWEEN stuff... and drops a few bombs... like no Halloween theme?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. It's been no secret that I've been critical of Zombie's approach to his HALLOWEEN remake. In fact, I've heard from many different friends that have friends close to Zombie that he wasn't just annoyed when my script review hit, but in a rage. Understandably, with the reaction he got from the review. People have taken that review and what I discussed in it to start a volcano of hate, spewing all over "that hack" etc, etc... I said then and I say now, I want Zombie to make a kick-ass HALLOWEEN movie. I think he has it in him. I think his approach is forgetting what made Carpenter's film work and I will continue to think that... My criticism was constructive, intentionally. If I wanted to be mean about it, I could have been. However, what I ultimately want is for him to change my mind come Fall when I can see the finished flick. I will say this... Tyler Mane as Myers doesn't look half-bad. He's not as bulky as described in the script. I like the way Myers looks walking around. I like the casting of the horror icons... Brad Dourif and Udo Kier and Dee Wallace and Adrienne Barbeau. Malcolm McDowell is looking great as Loomis. I hope I just don't get what Zombie's doing, but I'm afraid I do get it and Zombie just doesn't give a shit. MTV has video of the Myers house, chats with the cast and a written piece going over some details... one of which is the fact that Zombie has opted to not use John Carpenter's iconic theme in any shape (pardon the pun). That's a curious decision to me... it's like he's stripping everything but the character's names, the mask and the holiday... All this does is make me still wonder why he's remaking HALLOWEEN and not just doing his own original story. But I guess it's better than having to sit through a death metal version of the HALLOWEEN theme... CLICK HERE TO GO SEE THE MTV PIECE!!!
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But... a Halloween flick ithout THAT theme surely isn't a Halloween flick at all? Come on Rob, PLEASE don't give us another theme song with the title shouted over and over again...
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This only confirms the hatred I have for this project. Halloween's theme is iconic and leaving it out is just plain stupid.
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March 8, 2007, 4:26 a.m. CST
Hey I know! Let's do Indy 4 without the "March" theme!
by Boondock Devil
The horribly sad thing about it is that I'm going to end up seeing this movie anyways just because I'm a Halloween fan. Just what a bad fuckin' idea it is to not use the iconic theme in any ways. Hell, I'd take the death metal version because atleast it'd be in the movie.
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......... *sigh* shit.
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period
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He´s creepy. I love Rob Zombie´s movies, but he should not mess with a jewel like Halloween.
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I believe I mentioned in the last Halloween talkback that a Zombiefied version of the theme was a terrible idea, and now he's ditched it! Therefore, here are some more suggestions for you, Mr Z:<p>1. Darien Hallenbeck to re-team with Furry Tom.<p>2. A cameo by Chief Bromden in the institution scenes. You knw, since you have Billy Bibbit on board.<p>3. A sarcastic English character named Frank.<p>This is all I have for now, but it's a slow day at work so maybe I'll come back with more later. Good luck with the film, Rob Zombie.
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Halloween III: Season of the Witch. That movie went over really well with the masses didn't it?
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He's an intimidating guy. Not like having Uwe Boll hate me. That guy's just kinda funny, non-threatening (unless he's in a boxing ring, I guess). But I have no reason to lie to the guy, to stroke his ego or cut him down. My only motive in the review was to illustrate where he's straying from the path. He's making his movie... I just wish it wasn't called HALLOWEEN. Maybe he'll convince me of the errors in my judgment come October. I'll be open to it, but I'm not holding my breath.
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... but I do. This film is fucked for the very same reason that Devil's Rejects was an awesome failure. Zombie attempts to bring to the screen that junior-high goth kid mentality of being "fascinated" with serial killers, attempting to mystify and romanticize them into cultural icons. However (no matter how loud you play Freebird) the laws and effective drama and rational ethics will not permit an audience to sympathize with a murderous thug. We "loved" Michael in the Carpenter film b/c we loved fearing and hating him. By attempting to give him "depth" and character, he will fail dramatically, and succeed only in weakening those elements we loved in the original. I wanted SO much for Rob Zombie to be a good filmmaker. It would seem like he had potential. But now it is clear: He has NO fucking idea what he is doing.
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Halloween 3 may not have had the spooky plinky plink, but it did have that 'three more days to Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, etc' song, which was creepy as hell. That one still gives me the willies.
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So if this does well in the box office could someone follow it up and "right the ship"? Could spring Adam Greene a few bucks maybe?
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When I saw that as a kid the whole mask/theme/fucking snakes crawling out of eye holes was freaky as all hell. Plus it has Tom F'n Atkins. They just shouldn't have titled it "Halloween" at all.
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March 8, 2007, 4:46 a.m. CST
And the Halloween movies were on such a great track.
by RedwingsHoolihan
Too bad someone's bringing some creativity to the series. I was hoping they would continue the L.L. Cool J web cam storyline......Quit your bitching...Jeez louise. At least someone is bringing some life into a franchise that's been buttraped for the last two decades.
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...you are bitching when Zombie would just make a 1:1 copy of the original, so shut the fuck up! I wanna see it and nothing can stop me from watching it!
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...you're assuming Zombie isn't just continuing the buttt-raping.
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You are right, but LL Cool J was in H20 and the webcams were in Resurrection (Together with Busta Rhymes).
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He'll have to deal such critism. Not everybody in the world liked his house movies. If anything else, he's working on a remake of one of the crown jewels of horror movies. So long as John Carpenter is involved, stuff will have to be respected. If Carpenter says no, bob should listen. Personally, I don't care for this remake plan. I think this should be retitled and have a small Halloween reference.
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We can at least be grateful that the film's in the hands of someone who's a genuine fan of the horrors and has proved (with Devil's Rejects) that he has some talent. Better that Halloween goes to him rather than some TV advert hack (or worse, a special effects guy) looking for a way into the film business and who doesn't care about the material. Zombie might fuck it up anyway, but I'm prepared to give him a chance.
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They never let us see the videos due to copyright laws. It's not like we don't have MTV, we have about 50 different MTV channels. Oh well, unless Zombie pulls something amazing out of the bag, this sound a tad pointless.
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I once saw Carpenter speak, right after H20 came out, and someone asked if he'd seen it. He said no and he doesn't plan on it, but he keeps hoping they make sequels. Each time they do, he gets a nice, fat check. His words. Carpenter's name on the film isn't a guarantee of anything other than he got his check and he's a happy man.
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March 8, 2007, 4:57 a.m. CST
Busta Rhymes kung-fu'ing Myers is STILL the low point
by Boondock Devil
that was so horrible
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Because when this film Bombs and everyone starts asking Zombie "What happend" "How did you screw it up" I think Quint will be blamed as some kind of Internet critic war-monger who made everyone dislike the film from the start!! Seriously if Zombie has problem with a bit of creative crit than he should remain quiet, keep it burried and get on with things and do it his own way, but if it bombs he has to hold his hands up and say "sorry, my bad" Dont blame Quint, he was only trying to help!
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I hope he´ll get a nice, fat check
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John doesn't own the HALLOWEEN property, and they don't have to pay him directly for the use of The Shape or Laurie Strode or any of it. <P>But the HALLOWEEN theme? That's his completely, which means that they pay through the nose for the use of it. Sounds to me like a financial decision.
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Excellent point. I didn't even think about it in that way but you'd think they're throwing a moderate amount of money into this film that they'd use if it they really wanted to, right?
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They're selling ashitty horror movie under the pretence that it'll be similar to a horror masterpiece. Rob Zombie can go fuck off.
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That's atleast four reasons why I'll still go see this film opening weekend. The Trejo character sounds like he could be an interesting addition to the storyline. McDowell is a very solid choice as Loomis. I'll watch Brad Douriff in almost anything he's in and Danielle Harris is damn cute and for some reason still looks like a minor when she's gotta be getting close to 30. They could have used her for Dateline in To Catch a Predator if it didn't hit too close to home for her as far as stalker problems.
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It's that dropping an iconic movie theme from a franchise update/installment for the purposes of putting your own directoral stamp on the film, only detracts from what the fans want and what made the franchise what it was in it's hayday. Don't be daft Zombie.
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...if there´s no room for any individual ideas and themes? Sorry, you don´t like the script, you don´t like the actors: Don´t watch it! Watch the psycho-remake, that´s the sort of remake, you hunger for.
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...for Zombie all you like, but don't be bashing on Halloween III. Dan O'Herlihy, alcoholic Tom Atkins in nylon slacks, the chubby fucker from The Beastmaster, druids, killer robots, Stonehenge, and kids' heads melting into puddles of goo, spiders and snakes -- what's not to love?
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And thus, Rob Zombie cracks the seventh seal and paves the way for joining the company of Don Murphy and the "science advisor" on The Core by being TB-assraped into drooling oblivion.
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Who's just gonna wait and see how it pans out... I'll judge the final product, not one that hasnt even finished filming yet. *shrug*
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Oops. Sorry, it hasn't been released yet. Here's an idea. Wait until the movie's out, then you can mouth off all you like about how much you hate / love the flick (delete as applicable).
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I don't think it's that wrong to be express your opinion about things you learn that will or won't be in the movie. The theme is a big deal for a lot of Halloween fans like myself. I've mentioned before I'll most likely see it on the opening weekend but it'd be like watching Star Wars without the opening crawl theme in the beginning. Just something missing.
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March 8, 2007, 6:59 a.m. CST
theme to replaced by Taylor Hicks singing Monster Mash
by Spandau Belly
make it so!
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I like Rob zombie, I like Halloween I like the idea of Rob Zombie making his own Rob Zombie type movie in the world of Halloween...The original already exists so enjoy that, tracing is lame, and that shot for shot psycho remake sucked...I'm glad there is no original theme it would be distracting and be kind of a lame way to wink at the audience, who cares, they were going to remake this movie anyway I'm just glad they gave it to somebody who wants to do something intresting with it and is in it for the right reasons and not just to make a buck, though this won't hurt Zombie's career...unless it sucks...Either way I am looking forward to this...but I wish he was remaking A Nightmare on Elm St. I still feel that movie could be ten times the movie it ended up being even though it is a classic...anyway, this is all useless until we see it...and even than, what the fuck are we doing with our lives? Maybe I'll remake A Nightmare on Elm St. Or maybe I'll play with my balls
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probably because Carpenter owns the rights, but because HE'LL make a shitload of royalties writing his own. Just ask Nicholson about his rewrite "contribution" about Jack Napier killing off Bruce Wayne's parents.
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HE'S COMING AFTER US, ROARING ACROSS THE DESERT IN HIS BIG-DADDY-ROTH KUSTOM DEVIL-THEMED HOT-ROD, WITH HIS INSANE CLOWN POSSE FACEPAINT STREAKED WITH TEARS OF RAGE, AND HIS DREADLOCKS FLYING OUT BEHIND HIM... <p> He's always been a ponce & a prima donna...
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Here are some more ideas, including the new title I made up for you above:<p>4. A character who plays with his balls, just like gunnarcannibal will be doing while he remakes A Nightmare On Elm Street (who says you can't do both?).<p>5. An appearance by that crazy clown-faced guy from your other films, just to tie it all together.<p>5. Busta Rhymes Vs Michael Myers rematch - in a steel cage.<p>6. A character who uses the phrase 'Too Venomy', possibly also called Frank, possibly also the guy from #4 who plays with his balls.<p>That's it for now, Robert. I'll be back, though, time-waster that I am. Hope all is going well with the filming, which I hear you movie types call 'shooting'.
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March 8, 2007, 7:22 a.m. CST
Rob Zombie: "Proven Horrible Director"
by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports
just a correction there
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Juggfuckling: it's what's for dinner.
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It's fucking Rob Zombie...remaking Halloween. We've got until October to piss and moan over every little minute detail that leaks out over the next few months. What would you rather have right now? Halloween fucking 9? Be happy that it's gone to a horror film fan, and not some polished studio suckass hack. One thing's for sure, it'll be original. it'll breathe new life into a franchise that has sucked ass for longer now than it kicked ass. Like his last two movies or not, you gotta admit, it wasn't the same old shit we've gotten from studios in the last twenty years. And remember the war he fought to get his first movie released on his terms. That's called integrity. You're all gonna bitch no matter what i say, but most of you will admit, when you eard Halloween was being remade, you got really upset right? And most of you will also admit when you heard Zombie was doing it under the somewhat watchful eye of Carpenter, a little smile hit your face didn't it? Go with your first instinct, don't get fucked up by the little scraps of info that Zombie's thrown our way.
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Thanks for reminding me of Demon Dave. That clears up the mystery surrounding the identity of "patient X" in the rubber room between the Core guy's and the Mighty Murph's. I always had a sense of being in the proximity of THE DOORWAY TO TRUE EVIL every time I slid a tray of gruel through the catflap. Rob will be in good company.
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I think the underlying question here is thus: is it right to use characters from another person's work to create your own story. For example, it's kind of like the innumerable movies and stories (from every medium) that have been based upon the characters from Dracula. Now it goes without saying that none of these later reiterations even resemble the original story, many taking place in entirely fantastic circumstances (i.e. in the future, versus Batman, the shitty Blade Trinity incarnation, the list could go on... Blackula for Christ's sake!) No one seems to bitch about people using the Character Dracula for whatever storyline they want to place him in, even when these storylines fundamentally change the nature of the character. So why do we care when this happens to Michael Myers. Is it more important to keep this character's integrity intact versus others?
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Therefore Zombie will win and not look back. It's a job, not art, and he knows this.
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Yeah, that frame of reference comes from the fact that his last two movies were just sooo marketable to a mass audience, right?
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But "Reginald Lipschitz' Halloween" doesn't have the quite same zip to it.
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and then be forgotten. Scary movies just aren't that scary anymore. Considering all of the awful sequels to this franchise...is this really anything different? Same story, with a new, bad spin. Mwah mwaaaah! Maybe he'll add a child who crawls on all fours soaking wet with blue skin in a stop motion pattern. We've never seen that before!
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Halloween 4 looked like a damn remake to me. Anyhow, I only like how Myers and Loomis look here. Everything else looks like basura. Laurie Strode looks like an extra from a Fall Out Boy Video. And filling a movie with cameos only distracts the audience. Also, he's really limiting the wider appeal this movie has by catering to one small fan base and ignoring a lot of shit that made the original a huge fave. Granted this movie could have been another shitty sequel. (They haven't been decent since part 5) BUT... It's a remake. A way to right the ship and start over. The only reason they are remaking this is to make more sequels. That's the reality. But now he's really making a Friday the 13th movie set in Haddonfield. I don't mind a more brutal and aggressive Michael Myers, but excise all that prequel "Why was he evil?" bullshit. All u need is a good cast, interesting characters, a strong heroine, and ramp up the action and u got a good movie. Shit should be simple, not over explained. I don't care if Michael was buttfucked as a boy by his step father and he made paper masks and jerked off to dead animals. That's fucking stupid. Where was Jonathan Leibsman when they were hiring for this? Sure his "TCM: The Beginning" has a redundant story that didn't offer any compelling origins and was merely made to tie it to the 1st remake. But that movie with all it's flaws was well directed and pretty brutal. Rob should have done the upcomming "Friday The 13th" remake instead. And not using the theme song is really stupid. What will he play instead? The score to "A Clockwork Orange"? Cause u know he sucks that movies dick hardcore.
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Or like the fucking Superman Returns if they opted to not use any variation on Williams' iconic music.<p>Rob Zombie, you are a fucking piece of work, you know that? You have become the worst kind of meatgrinder filmmaker: you use your name and "cred" to get attached to projects, then you just do whatever you want like a little kid let loose in a toy store and create vacuous exercises in self-serving vanity masturbation without a SINGLE thought for quality or overall impact.<p>Yay! Little Robbie gets to make his movie his way! Proof positive that just because you can tell someone where to stand and where to point the camera does not make you a director.<p>God, I hate how any bozo in the general populace can be a director nowadays.
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How dare you use the words "Jonathan Liebesman" and "well directed" in the same thought.
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what to think yet. It takes me forever to form an opinion on stuff like this, so i guess I will just wait till the movie comes out.
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I'm glad Zombie doesnt give a shit what Quint thinks
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horror remakes, a complete turd. Michael Myers can speak and they're not using the theme? Aren't they hillbillies now too?<p> First of all, Zombie should be able to take criticism in this business or get out, plain and simple. What did he expect after bastardizing Halloween? He sounds like an emotionally retarded child with anger management issues. <p>Second, no matter what he does with his movie (which most likely will be terrible), I'll still be watching the original Carpenter movie every Halloween night, along with the Ichabod Crane cartoon and Night of the Living Dead.
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You idiot zombabies keep acting like someone's actually calling for a shot for shot remake.NO ONE EVER,ANYWHERE AT ANYTIME said that's what fans want or expect.So PLEASE if you're a zombie fan,get some new fucking material.That shit's old.
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... was directed by an SFX guy Stan Winston and was quite good. The teenagers weren't stereotypically stupid or villainous, the monster effects were very good and used sparingly and it was IMO generally a good story. Just saying in response to the post some way back that at least this project wasn't going to a special effects director that it they haven't always turned out complete hackery.
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Choad.
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But with Jar Jar Binks in the Michael Myers role. It is what I want and expect. I mean, Jesus, is that too much to ask?
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I loved the devil's rejects.
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Also, it was me who said that about special effects guys. I saw Pumpkinhead recently and thought it was a pretty neat story that was let down by Winston's pedestrian direction.<p>Mind you, it was not my contention that all SFX guys suck, because I think that's where James Cameron started out. My point was that, since someone somewhere has decided to remake Halloween, maybe we should be grateful they gave it to a guy like Zombie rather than some anonymous hack with no real interest in horrors.
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Worth putting on the movie just for that part; makes me laugh every time.
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If you don't think zombie's a hack you either haven't seen his "films" or you haven't seen enough of other peoples to have a valid frame of reference."Tutti-fuckin'-fruity!"
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Quint needs to go to hell and get a life. They're remaking Halloween, get the hell over it. You could do much worse than Rob Zombie. I'd be more worried if John Carpenter was at the helm. Not using the original music? Get the hell over it. I actually agree with that decision. Once that music is played, you might as well be watching the original.
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My God what's going on here....Malcolm Macdowell saying he's a good boy that turns bad..........theres good in him?!??!?!?.........i just saw the beginning of the end
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WHERE'S THE FUCKING LOVE?!?!Using the name HALLOWEEN and the character names to make some other non-related bullshit is just fucking cheap.Is this some kind of contest:"How many arbitrary changes can zombie make and still con people into thinking this is a HALLOWEEN movie?"
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Way to make a "point" there, Einstein....
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Of Michael Myers was that he HAD NO DEPTH...Loomis says it perfectly in the original...he's just a killing machine, no sould, no angst, no nothing, just a drive to destroy. Jason before there was a jason. Rob Zombies music SUCKS, his films so far have sucked, and I have every suspicion (aside from Malcolm McDowell...I LOVE that guy) that this remake of Halloween is gonna suck. I'll watch it though, and I hope it's good, cuz I've always had a soft spot for The Shape
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their own words Aug 31st!
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He wants to make "his" version of Halloween, yet he retains even the most minor of characters (Lynda and Annie's boyfriends for example) and, at least in the script, keeps some non-iconic dialogue fully intact. etc. If anything, i would expect the music to make an appearance, not Ronnie Elam.<br> <br> then again, the Assault on Precinct 13 remake foolishly ignored the original score. its tradition!
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If theyre not using the theme, i dont think he gets paid.
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he's making it his own...besides, he may have something else cool in mind (he is a musician after all).
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rob cummings.All day long.
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[p]...after Quint's script review a couple of months ago. I visit his MySpace page and read what his ass-kissing, ball-licking fans wrote the next day. Anybody who even remotely agreed with Quint had their life threatened and was attacked.[/p] [p]Even Zombie's response was devoid of merit. He didn't address any of the concerns Quint raised and talked like Quint was just trashing it for the sake of trashing it. Well, I'm sorry, but Michael Myers masturbating into pumpkins and Dr. Loomis making book deals is NOT Halloween. Just because Zombie fans MIGHT like it, doesn't mean it will appeal to Halloween fans or anyone else for that matter. I'm a big Halloween fan and I die a little more every time I read about how Zombie's "reimagining" Halloween by raping the characters, the story, and the concept. And now no theme? Right. This movie should be boycotted. And Malak Akkad should go dig up his dad and confess that he's just doomed the franchise worse than Busta Rhymes.[/p]
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I loved it when the guy sais, "God damn you lady!" and she goes, "He already has!" That shit always cracked me up. My buddies and I used to say it all the time and try to imitate her old, crackly, high pitched voice. I highly recommend this movie on that 1 scene alone.
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Or is everyone just going to obsess about what they think the film should be? Honestly, this is getting a little ridiculous. I read a bit of the script, and I've been following the production of the film. It is VERY clear that this is going to be nothing like the original, or anything else in the franchise. Rob is making his own movie, using the plot from the original as bare bones. So you can either whine about it and be disappointed every time a little piece of news arrives, or you can hope for another film that kicks as much ass as the Devil's Rejects.
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but the core audience for this should, and would, be fans of the original. To go the route he's going, well, that's just stupidity. Sure, I'd like to see a new take on the subject, I guess, but this just sounds bizarro. Granted, as a rule, I'm no fan of remakes, but I am willing to give some a chance. This one doesn't entice.
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Moustapha,dead by a terrorist bomb.His legacy?About to be killed by a cinematic shit-bomb to be launched by his own son and some dumbfuck "musician" dabbling in movies.
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I mean really. It wont lessen my love for the original any. I HOPE that Zombie does a great job on this and that I love it. But, if not, well I'll just keep watching the original every Halloween night and I'll pretend that this new one was never made, like Godfather 3, Rocky V, Karate Kid 3, The Hitcher remake and several others. Its called suspension of disbelief. Maybe not, but its called something and it works for me!
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Unless you're buds with these guys, it sounds rather stupid and presumptuous.
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is another one I like to pretend was never made
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So, if he loses the mask, does he get constipated? No wonder he turned to a life of crime. If Loomis had just let the kid go take a dump, we wouldn't be having this conversation.<p>"I gotta take a shit."<p>"But I threw away your mask."<p>"WHY?!?!?"<p>"It was too Venomy."
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Thats an original idea! Very kick ass!
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nipples AND flames.
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I never get tired of that.
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and zombie fans GOTTA EAT!
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Since the family is now trailer trash?<p>"If you wear a mask...when you GOTTA TAKE A SHIT...you might be a redneck."<p>"If your alternate personality is a psycho killer William Shatner...you might be a redneck."<p>"If you killed your sister because your dad called you a faggot...you might be a redneck."<p>"if growing up in a trailer park with a stripper mom made you grow up to kill babysitters...you might be a redneck."
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Because he's dead. Sure, he coughed up some money for the first one and obviously was eager to spend some more on the fairly good second chapter after the phenomenal success of the first one, but he is far more responsible for buttraping the franchise into the ground than Rob Zombie can ever be. Parts 4&5 were watchable, but it should have ended there. Instead the backslide continued until the complete and utter travesty of Halloween Resurrection. The spooky post Scream web-cam party with Tyra Banks was enough as it was, but we actually saw Busta Rhymes jumpkick Myers to the ground. Halloween H20 was mostly awful as well, and it bent over backwards to pay homage to the original. I'm not crazy enough to guarantee that this crazy movie Rob Zombie is making is going to be good, or that it's even going to work more than any of the aforementioned parts of the series. I'm sure Rob Zombie knows that the music is iconic, Michael Myers didn't talk in any of the original movies, Michael's only victim as a child was his sister, Michael was scary because he was a blank cypher for pure evil, etc. etc. etc. He's a smart guy and he uses his brain when he gets behind the camera, even if a bunch of people on the internet think the end result is crude and distasteful. Watch the making of disc on the Devil's Rejects DVD and you will have more respect for the guy as a filmmaker. It is clear that the fans of the Halloween franchise are incensed by the approach he is taking, but he has pretty much said from day one that he is making a different beast and not to expect to see a shot for shot copy. This reminds me somewhat of the Casino Royale uproar, when everyone on the internet bitched that Daniel Craig was blonde, not pretty, was a shitty actor, you name it. People were acting like Fleming would be rolling in his grave because Bond didn't have black hair. Everyone completely ignored the fact that the Bond Franchise has about one decent film for every three crappy films, and we had just gotten three progressively worse films in a row. And yet they lined up a director who knew what he was doing, a great cast and the film ended up being one of the best in the whole franchise because it just came out swinging and didn't suck on purpose. Just accept that the movie isn't going to be what you personally would make and wait to see if what comes out stands on its own.
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I don't want to read the whole thing before the movie comes out. Is the gotta take a shit mask in the script? What page is it on?
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Please stop fucking up. Kthx.
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In the initial script review, Quint mentions that our mentally disturbed Mike Meyers has masks for different personas and functions. He specified there was one for when Mike "Gotta Take a Shit". One only assumes it appears onscreen in the film, no doubt accompanied by grunting and groaning.
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has earned him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to re-raping HALLOWEEN.His credentials are no greater than those of Steve Miner or Rick Rosenthal.And if anyone couldn't tell by the pre-publicity on their films that they were going to suck then you deserved exactly what you got.
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Shia LaBeouf is signed to star as Michael's sidekick son! It's a story about a serial murderer and his estranged son finding each other in this crazy mixed up world of ours teaching each other life lessons...and killing people.
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The problem that I find with Z is that the only memorable scenes he can conjure up are now cliched scenes from indy horror past. When he's not paying homage to horror movies of yesteryear, he falls on his ass as far as trying to say anything relevant. Let me put it this way, EVEN HIS GODDAMN MUSIC HAD TO CONSTANTLY REFER TO OLD SCARE PICTURES! Fuck you Rob Zombie, you miserable skater punk cunt.
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"The plane has crashed into the fucking mountain." Yeah that's how I feel. I'm sure it'll be a good slasher movie but Halloween is a different beast entirely.
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He hasn't made anything of significance since 1982 (The Thing). Twenty-five years is a long quality dry spell. Thank God Zombie's at the helm.
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March 8, 2007, 11:57 a.m. CST
I also have doubts about the rewritten ending (SPOILER)
by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports
you know, how at the end, where just as the authorities are about to catch Michael Myers, the whole population of London, man women & children all gather in the public square wearing identical GOTTA TAKE A SHIT masks as fireworks go off over head... <p> And also the part in the middle where Michael Myers dons flat-black hot-rod rollerskates and joins in a far-out rockabilly burlesque rollerderby match, MCed by the fat bearded guy with the top hat from Zombie's other movies... Just not sure how well that will work onscreen.
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I have the script, but I don't want to read the whole thing looking for the shit mask part. What page? Or did Quint make it up?
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after this, and thats something we can all be very happy about.
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before he even get to even a GHOSTS OF MARS level of quality.zombie could NEVER do a STARMAN,BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA,PRINCE OF DARKNESS or IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS.For one thing zombie lacks the creativity and would rather repackage others ideas and pass them off as his own under the banner of "homage". You would do well not to wear your ignorance on your sleeve.
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A-fucking-men.
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THIS IS SPARTA! sorry to whover coined that.
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Quint you called out a film maker saying the film would be shit. It will. It is. Own up to it. Now it seems like your giving him the benefit of the doubt because he's gonna kick your ass or Miramax wont invite you to the Premiere. This film will be like the Mod Squad remake pointless and forgotten. They are doing it for the sole purpose of money and unoriginality. Listen to Zombie on MTV even he seems bored by this premise. So now Michael is cute and innocent? Yawn. What is it with studios wanting to shed back story on killers. Do we need to see back story up the wazoo on Chucky,Jason,and Freddy. No! Hannibal Rising was dreck and did the same thing. I'm tired of humanizing these killers. Nobody cares. The reason you irked Zombie is because you called him on a script that was shit and he's angry someone in a position of power actually called him on it. Hacks hate it when you call them hacks. Because they cant defend themselves. They are hacks. Zombie was relying on the audience getting to know Michael because none of the other characters in these films are interesting. Joss Whedon knows how to write interesting characters. Firefly,Buffy,Angel. These shows wouldn't be much loved if the writing on them wouldn't have taken new approaches. Actually caring about the characters. Does anyone at all care about the cast of this? This film is like having the T1000 attack a sorority house for 2 hours instead of battle a Terminator or Robocop. Not interesting what so ever. I love the fact Zombie thinks because Michael can't drive a car that makes this film cool? Who gives a shit if he can't drive a car! This remake is dreck. It has no Aqaba it has nothing.
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Whether or not the movie is "Gotta Take a Shit Mask" bad. The length of this talkback alone shows that people are way too interested in this project, simply because it's a REMAKE not a sequel, and Zombie's name is attached. We act like this movie should have value because it's a REMAKE, but fuck remakes. They should get no more respect than sequels, which at this point in the series means no respect. If this was called Halloween 9 and had the same script attached, there wouldn't be a TB at all. No one would give a venom-y shit about it. This movie's gonna make bank because they dropped the "9" from the title, and attached a polarizing horror director who everyone wants to weigh in on.
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Are you kidding me? Every one of those films you listed are God-awful. Like I said, Carpenter hasn't done anything of relevance in 25 years, I have no problem with Zombie helming this flick.
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Joss Whedon is original? Since when?
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sorry zombie, i was excited when i heard you were making this film. while i ultimately hated your oddly sympathetic/heroic stance on the band of idiotic murderers, in the devil's rejects; i definitely saw the promise of new voice in filmmaking. there are moments in the devil's rejects that truly remind of some of the great 1970's exploitation pictures. so, your choice as director behind the new halloween film was exciting. but your apparent disdain towards the original film, your lack of respect for the origins, not to mention the idiotic choice of trying to humanize michael meyers and make him, ugh, 'cute'; really makes me never want to see any completed version of this film. zombie should leave his ego at the door, and really work to make something fresh that also maintains what makes the first films so memorable...
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If you watch Rob talk about Horror and the seventies, he knows what he is talking about. Yet I don't like what I'm hearing about this remake. His first two films had very bad scripts, I liked the directing though. Rob we don't care about the motivation or inner game of a serial killer. I like seeing them hunted. Like in Chiefs or the Ted Bundy mini series The Deliberate Stranger.
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Carpenters films at least have imagination going for them and are completely different from one another.zombie chooses to wallow in his white trash,rip-off laden,pseudo-grindhouse comfort zone when other filmmakers are usually anxious to expand their talents by this point in their careers.By this point in his directorial career Carpenter had made DARK STAR,ASSAULT ON PRECINCT 13,and HALLOWEEN.And exactly what has zombie done that's so fucking "relevant"?You're just making yourself sound stupid.
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And look how that panned out, I think this is the same thing with Quint, and hopefully Quint's fears will be all for not. Devil's Rejects kicked ass, and that's reason enough for me to see this come October.
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...Zombie's two "respected" or "generally well-liked" films (depending on who you ask, I guess) are basically mix tapes of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre flicks (1 & 2), Hellraiser (for the latter part of House) and Natural Born Killers (for much of Rejects) yet when he officially sets about a remake, he's coming up with all kinds of original ides to change the story. Why even call it a remake? As for Whedon, he's not really original at all. But he is a talented writer who (often) manages to put a fresh and interesting spin on very familiar (even tired) concepts. That's whenj he's at his best. He's at his worst, apparently, when trying to direct a film (which Zombie, oddly enough, seems to be pretty decent at). Maybe if Zombie hired Whedon as a writer, we'd get the same kind of masterpiece that I'd expect if Tarantino scripted something for Shyamalan. Play to your fucking strengths, guys.
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March 8, 2007, 1:19 p.m. CST
Gosh, Trazadone, BIG TROUB LITTLE CHINA, "god-awful?"
by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports
That's a pretty strong statement, you worthless idiotic braindead diarrhea-gargling crackwhore.
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Zombie couldn't make the same Halloween anyway. Kids don't trick or treat anymore, they go to parties thrown by parents, kinda like a big holiday play date. Baby sitters? Come now, most kids are nannified after school by spanish speaking live ins. And really, the movie would end as soon as tommy doyle's mommy picks him up after school in her SUV, pumpkin and all, and notices Mikey by the fence, dialing 911 on her prada cell phone. Better yet, what teenager does their own laundry Annie? Nowadays?...I feel bad for Zombie. I loo forward to his vision, but the dogs dammit...Have Mikey take ing out that german shepard was classic...Quint is right. Hooper, drives the boat chief.
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The phrase is catching on!!! Oh, and F*** Rob Zombie! It's too soon!!
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concerning zombie's hackery.Let's not forget the whole obvious FROM DUSK TIL DAWN "homage" in the hotel room invasion scene in REJECTS.The Tarantinoie(NOT a planet in STAR WARS)use of the sheriff talking to himself in the mirror in REJECTS.The old "hands nailed to the chair"thing from LEATHERFACE TCM 3 in REJECTS.The "homage" to THE SHINING as the sheriff chases Baby through the cattle panels.The use of Fulci knockoff zombies in HO1KC.The FUNHOUSE reference in HO1KC.Need I go on.The list is seemingly endless.There's nothing wrong with an homage ONCE in a while but to tie so many together and try to pass ones self off as a real filmmaker smacks of hackery in its purest form.
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High five!
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I was shocked when he said this when whe was hosting a horror marathon on the Sci-Fi network back in the mid nineties. Specifically he was referring to Evil Dead II. And then the guy started making films! BTW, I watched The Devils rejects even after HATING House Of 1000 Corpses hearing that it was much better. Well, it was, but it was SUCH a waste of talent...well except for his wife who was... Ugh. What part does she play in the Halloween film, I wonder. By the way, was Devils Rejects partly shot by Billy Barty's character in UHF?
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An enema of cyanide, hydrochloric acid, and bleach.
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No more "chee chee chaa chaa". Jason is more of a misunderstood anti-hero who quotes old movie lines. Sherri Moon plays the only girl who understands him. The whole film is shot by a dwarf carrying the sound equipment in a paper bag.
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...of course he's killing everybody." Says the new Laurie about the new and improved Michael Myers (now with feelings!!) Good God this is going to be a piece of shit. What the fuck was Zombie thinking?
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To me that would've been far worse than not having the classic Halloween theme. But yeah, not having the original theme in any form blows.
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the better.No wonder zombie tries to concentrate more on her ass.Every time that bitch opens her mouth it makes me think I'd rather see her get "Dimebagged" than tea-bagged.
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For all the remake madness.
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nice UHF reference, well played sir, well played indeed
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horrible.
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That sounds absolutely nuts, but I'm wondering why YOU guys are so upset about it. Personally, I'm hoping this still has a chance of being a good movie, but 99% of you want to pre-emptively have Zombie drawn and quartered.<p> If you're gonna hate the movie, won't it be BETTER to not have the theme in it? So it separates it from the original more?<p> I don't know about this "sympathetic Michael Meyers" talk, but personally I liked what he did in DEVIL'S REJECTS. Those characters are NOT sympathetic, but you do follow along with them just like you would, say, Henry in PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER. And for me, when the tables got turned on them and the sherriff started to torture them, I did start to feel sorry for them and root for them to get away, hoping Tiny would show up to save them. And then I started to feel like an asshole for wanting these sick fucks to get away. That's the sinister cleverness of the movie, it almost tricks you into being on their side. Almost.<p> Somebody above described it as a juvenile "goth" attempt to portray serial killers as sympathetic, and if that's what I thought it was I'd probaly hate it too, but I don't see it that way. I don't think that's what he's going for.<p> And by the way, yes his movies are full of homages (that's part of the fun) but he did manage to come up with alot of his own shit. I mean, the fact that he pulled off an "evil clown" that's actually a really funny and memorable character is a miracle. I love Captain Spalding at gunpoint putting his middle fingers in the air. I've liked Sid Haig in all kinds of movies but those two really took advantage of him, he's fucking great in those.<p> My favorite character is Tiny, though. I love that opening of DEVIL'S REJECTS. He spots the police coming to the house but he is occupied dragging a naked corpse through the woods. Then the whole shootout with the hillbilly armor... I mean, that's a fuckin sequel. Anybody else would've had another group of people break down near the house, Zombie turned his horror movie cartoon into a sun-drenched '70s road movie. Imagine if the chainsaw family got caught and had to make a run for it. That's brilliant. Give that movie some credit.
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Agree with your post just now. Is there actually a "Gotta shit mask"? What page can I find this on? I have the script but don't want to spoil it by reading the whole thing. I just want to know if this is actually in the script.
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I just remembered that it was Quint that wrote the script review, not Vern. Oh well, if you've read it too let me know Vern.
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...I enjoyed Rejects (and Corpses, to a lesser extent) for what it was. I just balk when anybody calls Zombie an original filmmaker or insinuates that he's rejuvenating the genre. And I genuinely do find it amusing that his official remake is apparently going to have less "homage" in ikt than his "original" stuff. All that said, I'm kind of curious about his Halloween. I actually enjoyed the TCM remake (and its prequel...a subject we've traded thoughts on before), so it's not like I'm not open to being pleasantly surprised or simultaneously repulsed and amused.
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I don't understand why people make franchise movies without respecting the impact of a classic and iconic theme. It will buy you MILES of goodwill. Case in point: SUPERMAN RETURNS was really not a good movie, but I still got a few chills hearing that theme in the theater. By the same token, I was really equally underwhelmed by T3... but a few beats of the original theme would have bought some goosebumps. Zombie, if you're out there, reconsider. It can only help you.
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Duh.
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The US WTF...Bollocks..
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Seems like you all just want to piss & moan about something you've not even researched. Just brainwashed by media. If the media endorses something and handfeeds it to the masses...it must be true...right?<p> Well guess what kids, it's already be mentioned in this TB but I'm sure most of you missed it. On this very site, there is an interview with the composer of the score and he says the theme is used. <p> Burn...
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...aren't you, onemanarmy? Am I right in assuming that you relate on a very personal level both to Zombie and his revamped Myers? Is somebody wearing his self righteous mask right now?
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Smooth move, Zombie.
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and have Jerry Lewis play the killer?
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I'm afraid you're wrong in every sense of the word.<p> It just pisses me off that people will rant & rave for weeks on end. All it takes to start it all up, is one person and a little bad information. <p> Hate Zombie all you want. I can understand the distaste for a man who's playing with fire, in the sense of "re-imagining" a horror icon and alledgedly ruining it.<p> I highly recommend some of you take a look at a film called "Going to Pieces: The Rise and Fall of the Slasher Film."
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Maybe he'll put it back in in some form. I mean we already know he read Quint's review and got upset. Maybe if fans show their distaste for the lack of classic theme, he'll have a change of heart. It doesn't have to be a huge part of the movie. I'll settle for just having it in small doses, or in maybe 1 scene. If you think about it it only appeared in the opening and closing of the original film. It was never prominent, but it made such a huge impact.
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no theme?
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Would that be factually and morally? I mean, if I'm factually wrong and you aren't actually wearing some sort of angry little man mask as you type, then that's all well and good. But in order to be morally wrong, I'd have to be factually right and you would have to be impaired in some way that should make me feel bad about taunting you. Yet I don't feel bad and you seem to be able to form semi-cohesive thoughts between bursts of online rage, so at most I'm wrong in just the one sense of the word. Unless there are senses of wrong with which you are familiar and I am not. That's entirely possible, given how creepy you are.
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For the minutes of his life wasted in a theater struggling against Rob Zombie's petulant cock being rammed down his (and every other audience members') throat.
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as the filmaker, I'm sure he's crying 'creative liberties' as a means to seem 'original', but in the very nature of a REMAKE, originality isn't exactly what needs to be shoved in our faces here. I'm interested to see what comes of this, but reworking a classic and stripping it of the exact elements that made us love it may work against us loving Zombies 'original' take on it.
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FEEB: An assclown, which practices assclownery at an exponential level , when compared to a regular assclown. This is an assclown whose own stupidity can actually change the Earth's gravitational pull. Rob Zombie is just a fanboy with a giant movie collection...he probably watched Halloween 80 times...this is his chance to take something someone brilliant thought up years ago and put his name on it...all the glory without a spot of originality..its a talent free fanboys wetdream. In an age where people are famous for doing nothing at all, you have to ask yourself Rob..WWJCD. OH wait..I just remembered you dont have a fucking clue..your not a filmaker, your a fucking musician! Not a very good one either. You were lucky enough to get gigs with your shit band, you even got to cast your little no acting girlfriend in a couple of shit movies. Being a musician you must understand the importance of signature music which recurs in a film, but your not going to use the Halloween theme!!!! Let me guess, your going to write your own Halloween theme right?! Better than the original? Remeber Iron Maiden's cover of Cross Eyed Mary, lame and totally lost in translation...Fuck it...why dont we let Trent Reznor remake The Thing, or Iggy Pop play The Joker...Rob Zombie doesnt just love 70's horror films, he wants to entirely own them. He would add John Carpenter and Tobe Hooper to his giant prop collection if he could..trapped in a warehouse, collecting dust...but his, all his. This JC fan is not happy..oh no... I'm tired of watching the monster squad remake brilliant films. Thank Oden Ozzy isnt remaking Big Trouble in Little China!
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I would suggest that the reason this talkback is so long is because A: We love the original Halloween and B: Rob Zombie is no talent fuckin hack that we all like to trash. And to the dipshit that said that John Carpenter hasn't done anything interesting since The Thing...You're just wrong...ghosts of mars was better than ALL of rob zombies collected output combined.
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That's not the way it works for screenplays. For one thing, Jack Nicholson didn't write the idea of Napier killing Bruce's parents. That was Sam Hamm, and it was in every draft, well before Nicholson became involved. <P>But let's say he had written that scene. He still wouldn't be entitled to any royalties or residuals unless he actually got a screen credit. So whoever told you that Nicholson's getting money because of the BATMAN script lied to you, dude. Ain't true.
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"it'll breathe new life into a franchise that has sucked ass for longer now than it kicked ass" SO true. I'm sorry but Halloween has not been ANY good since part 2. Part 3 I don't consider into this equation as it's unrelated, though quite fun. But anyhow the MYERS adventures have sucked ass since part 2. So thats what... 3 4 5 6 7 8 that were lacklustre at best? The very best of those being part 7 with an 'all star cast'? Give me Zombies remake. I have my original copy, I love my original copy, it's a fantastic movie. If Zombies is good it'll sit proudly in my collection. If it sucks? It'll be forgotten and relegated to the back of Blockbuster where noone will see it again.
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back the fuck off Zombie. For christ's sake, let him take a crack at it. Does it really make a difference if he fuck's it up? Think about it, anything after the original blows monkey nuts anyway(Well.. 2 wasn't have bad.) Is it going to change the way you feel abou the original? No, it won't. The other fuck-ups after 3 should have done that already. So let him do his thing and just chill out. I have faith in him and I feel I know what he is going for. Oh yeah, I am a TRUE carpenter fan btw. Love the shit out of Halloween, Dark Star(own it on VHS :P), Prince of Darkness, The Thing, etc.
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Also, you can't judge a movie based on the bits and pieces of info you read on this site. It could be that the theme totally doesn't fit with the movie Zombie's making... we just won't know for sure how "misguided" this whole thing is until we see the finished product. Maybe it'll be brilliant, maybe it'll suck... could go either way. Just remember, all of those terrible sequels with Myers had the theme music and all the other ingredients that the fanboys on this talkback are demanding... those elements still did not make them good movies. So don't play Monday morning quarterback... let Zombie make his movie his way. Chances are it'll at least be better than any of the sequels... it'll stand apart and it will have the balls to be original... to me, that's better than slavish devotion.
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Most of the Halloween sequels did suck, so at worst this one won't be as good as part 2, at best even with the original. I just wonder if Sherri Moon's ass will appear in this movie?
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Jeesh, dont you watch the special features on the dvd?? LOL. Tim Burton did it so he would "tie-in" the story.
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here... http://www.filmick.co.uk/2007/02/teaser-poster-for-rob-zombies-halloween.html
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can NEVER be replicated or copied or simulated... I.E., point of reference "THE POLICE" .. my buddy got a best of "them" and i had heard songs i've never heard before that KICK SO MUCH ASS! the ORIGINAL IS ALMOST ALWAYS THE BEST!!! halloween was a movie i had heard about but was never allowed to see... but i saw it on "T.V." and it was scary!! I have watched it since and i feel it is one of the best horror films ever.. DO NOT FUCK WIT" IT!
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i know some 'Halloween'... i just can't stand this. think of the intro guitar part of "MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE" and then think of someone else doing it.
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I'm pretty sure I am. I liked Devil's Rejects a hellova lot, but I'm really disliking the horror-remake trend. However, "Gotta Take A Shit" mask is comedy GOLD!! Just imagine it: "Rrrggghhh!" "What is it Michael?" "Rrrrggghhh!" "I can't understand you." (young myers puts on his "Gotta Take A Shit" mask) "RRRRGGGGHHHH!!" "Ohhh, I see. Yes, go ahead." That's fucking amazing.
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give the guy a chance. From what I read about the script. I'm sure it blows. But it can't be anyworse then the previous shit. Halloween 1 and 2 are classics. I even like 3. Something about Dean Cundy and the way he shoots shit. Breathtaking. Anyway, this movie is going to be terrible and I can't wait to see it.
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halloween is not this bull!!! also " THIS BED'S TOO BIG WITHOUT YOU!!!!"
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this sucks my balls. i introduced ny little bro to these films (he's 21 now) and he thought it was cool. THEN I TOOK HIM TO H2O!! and we ended up fighting.
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Actually, I read the script, which was written before Burton was involved. It was Sam Hamm's decision, no matter what Burton says now.
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just kidding, i have 56-krap. i think this bad for Halloween itself. halloween is a joke to most kids since the 90's. i put my lil' brother into it for about 12 years, but now no one cares!!!!!!!!!! and that was like 10 years ago. i h0pe other people enjoy HALLOWEEN, because in central florida everyone is to0 scared.
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i love this site. and i'm wasted. hooray....
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He's upset because he got some constructive criticism about his screenplay. For a guy who's supposed to be dark (read, lame goth) he really is a crybaby. Grow a pair Zombie.
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It's been a while since I've seen it, but I have the DVD, and I seem to remember Sam Hamm himself saying that this wasn't his idea... and that when people criticize that part of the movie, he strenuously points this out to them. If it wasn't Hamm, it was someone who worked on the movie early on... and they made a point of saying that that idea came in later.
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To be objective and give Rob Zombie a chance.. 1000 Corpses was without a doubt the worst movie I have ever seen. I actually laughed during it because it was so bad. But I chalked that up to it just being his first film.. Then I actually paid money to see Rejects, and proceeded to walk out. Rob Zombie is NOT a film maker, he's a music video director at best... I don't hope this movie tanks because I have respect for the franchise. The original was almost a perfect film and there is no way that this unoriginal, sub par director will make the new version anything worth watching.
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the Bond movie was a skillful remake made by intellgient experienced filmmakers, they changed stuff and it worked because they had thought it out..Rob Zombie cant direct or edit drama or horror in the slightest..this will be a fucked movie..0 doubt about it..i gave him two goes..both films were massive vaccuous turds..hes a hack and he sure aint no real horror fan
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That the series was to be a sort of annual "anthology" of Halloween tales, each year a new film? In that case, Halloween 3 was actually closer to the original concept.<p>Bah, who am I kidding - fuck Zombie - he's yesterday's dark singer.
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if you just beat the living SHIT out of rob zombie for us.Then as you're standing over his bleeding,crying,snot-nosed face,tell him "Tutti-fuckin'-Fruity!",then punch him again.Bring us back his beard as proof.
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There's no point in him making this if it's "just another Halloween" movie. Not bothered by the lack of the theme at all.
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They have seen some of the film cut together and don't like what they are seeing so they have decided to cut the theme and save the Carpenter cash. They do this all the time on films that become risky during production...Just go see Son of the mask or A sound of thunder and see the crappy effects that were the result of price cutting. Even with good (more expensive effects) they would have still been shit films. <p> They just arnt going to say "we have to cut costs because the dailies are shit" just yet to save face!
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and it will be as good as his albums....which are awful. but i love both of his films so far so i will give him a chance on this
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Was mostly that Zombie was making Myers into a run of the mill serial killer by showing his origin as not too different from someone like Dahmer...killing animals, being abused, etc. He's turned him into a serial killer cliche. The scary thing about Michael Myers was what is scary about the Unabomber. A guy that by most accounts should've grown up to be something normal and successful and for some bizarre reason snaps and kills people. It's scarier when there is no rhyme or reason for madness and killing.
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the theme isn't a difficult piece of musical work. Everyone can play that tune. When watching Zombie's Halloween, switch to mute mode and play the tune yourself... stop bitching!
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No Halloween Theme = Flames on Optimus
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Was awesome. Great one liners and classic scenes. Remember Zombie is a mediocre musician at best, and a half decent filmmaker. Corpes was awful and all over the place, he learned his lesson and made Rejects a tight full throttle cult classic. But this is looking to be a disaster. The lack of a theme will alienate fans, like myself, and will hurt the box office. Good job Rob, ever heard the old expression "if it aint broke....."?
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"But I guess it's better than having to sit through a death metal version of the HALLOWEEN theme..." Oh, so White Zombie and the Rob Zombie solo stuff are death metal? Just write about movies, stupid retard, stay away from the music, you apparently don't know shit about it! And, oh my god, Rob Zombie doesn't give a shit about your thoughts on his script? He should be executed, right now! Quint = pretencious prick.
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sigh. I am actually glad he is not using the theme. that way I can ignore the existence of it.<p>Also, Trazadone don't knock Carpenter- he is the king of the remakes- and his original work is usually better than Zombies crap. Aside from the films mentioned by Torture Pwn there is also Escape From New York, The Fog, Christine and others. The 90's haven't been great but you can't knock a track record like he has got. However, taking this into account-even Vampires is better than Zombie's poor efforts. <p> Finally, for the Record: Big trouble rocked and you, sir, are an arse.
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I wouldn't call it music!
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Does anyone know what page it's on? I have the script but don't want to read the whole thing. Is the "Gotta Take A Shit Mask" really in the movie? Please let me know what page. Thanks.
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Chugga-chugga-chu-chu-chugga<p>"It's...Haaaaalloooooween!" <p>Chugga-chu-chugga-chugga <p> "Haaaaallooooween!" <p>Chugga-chu-chugga "The night..." <p>Chugga-chug "He came............HOOOOME!!!" <p>Ka-chugga-chugga ka-chugga-chug <p>Ka-chugga-chugga ka-chugga-chug <p>"Behind that mask!" Chugga-chu-chugga <p> "A killer's miiiiind!" Chugga-chu-chuggga<p> "What do you find?" Chugga-chug<p> "He's GOTTA TAKE A SHIT!!!!"<p> (Repeat Chug-a-chugs endlessly)
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that Zombie gets mad for an honest review... he is wasting his time remaking Halloween anyway. shouldnt he make a Christmas record... or a bunch of cover songs instead?
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That sucks. aybe it looks good, maybe it doesn't. I wouldn't know.
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One of my most disappointing movies ive ever seen with all the promise that House of 1000 corpses had. Halloween without the theme is like a cock without balls. http://tinyurl.com/pv8do
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Next week on LOST!!!!!
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and give him the fucking page number the 'Gotta Shit' mask appears on? For fuck's sake the guy has asked about 1,000 times. Post the scene description in this TB for the rest of us too because we all want to read it. C'mon, look alive editors! I have work I need to do that I would much rather NOT do and read articles and TB's on this site.
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Read this site posted Zombie's alleged script I was not in the best of hopes but after listening to him speak about the film I believe that him going in a new direction isn't bad at all! It sure does beat the curse thorn or web cam ideas of part 6 and 8. I'm going into this film expecting something totally different so I won't be disappointed. Zombie has love for the original so I think he's just keeping the structure but adding alot more subtext. He's a smart guy and I like him alot, my hopes are for a crazy revisioning of Halloween, can't wait.
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read it yourself like everyone else and shut the fuck up already.
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I'll tell you what page it's on, if you can tell me where I can download it
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read it here on his MySpace blog. He hasn't even begun to explore the music: <br> <br> http://tinyurl.com/2a2duv
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... now that really was a hunk of shit. I think Rob Ghoulie is an ok director but I won't be spending any of my hard-earned cash on this empty shell of an original idea. If Ghoulie can just muster enough energy to come up with something fresh then I might give him a closer look. If he works really hard at it he might even turn out a classic one day.... but I won't hold my breath. Well, only as long as this stench of yet another sub-standard remake. The only remake I wanna see is Race With Devil.
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"YEAH! MUTHAFUCKA! MUTHAFUCKIN` HALLOWEEN! YEAH! MUTHAFUCKA! HALLOW-FUCKIN`-EEN!" [Quiet interlude where Zombie pseudo-sings some nonsense in a deep raspy voice, with countless soundbites from horror movies in the background] Then.....back to the loud chorus: "YEAH! MUTHAFUCKA! MUTHAFUCKIN` HALLOWEEN! YEAH! MUTHAFUCKA! GONNA MUTHAFUCKIN` MAKE YOU SCREAM!" I know Doctor_Sin already beat me to the "new Halloween theme" joke....but dammit I had to post my own version!
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about putting the theme back in now,did it?cummings,this ain't LionsGate you're fucking around with.Welcome to the big leagues.Your 2 previous commercial failure/cult hits don't mean jack shit.
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Looking forward to hearing you bitch about your so-called "vision" being raped,you suck-ass hack.
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mr. super ;)
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I met Tyler mane when came to the UK to do some signings in support of the first X-Men flick and I'd like to say he's a REALLY nice guy and very friendly with fans. Plus he's ABSOLUTELY HUGE (I came up to his chest). I may not like the direction Zombie is taking the film, but Tyler's going to be great as Micheal.
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over on the "Dark Night's new batsuit " talkback. Post there and ask him to make it available again. And please, be SURE once you've got it, you tell me what page number the GOTTA TAKE A SHIT MASK appears on. Or is it really in there at all? Quint mentioned it, but I'm not sure if he was telling the truth. I mean, I do have the script, but I don't want to risk sending it, in case I read the whole thing by accident.
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be sure when you post that you mention you want a copy so you can tell me what page the GOTTA TAKE A SHIT MASK appears on, mention that I am very appreciative of the copy that I got, but that I don't want to read the whole thing. <p> In fact the guy is on a few different talkbacks, I would post a bunch of places to make sure you get his attention. He's a friend of mine, so be sure you mention that it's to find out the page number of the where GOTTA TAKE A SHIT mask appears, so he knows you're on the level. Cheers.
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The music was one of the best parts of the original movie. It brought about the feeling of dire straits with a simplistic eery beat. I know I wont see the remake for three simple reasons: 1. The original was done by a man who had a vision of something that has not been done before. 2. The background music helped set the feeling of the movie, which was simple, yet dark at the same time. 3. John carpenter not directing. I would approve of a remake if only the original director was involed. If anyone knows how to set a tone or how a character would be portrayed in today's society, it would be john Carpenter.
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Just because he's a fan of the horror genre, doesn't mean he should direct them. Hell I love basketball, but I can't dunk worth a shit...
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If someone foolishly chooses to remake a well respected classic movie, the worst thing they can do is NOT differentiate from the original. Mr Zombie has to do his own thing a little or it's redundant to pay all that money for the rights in the first place. Then again, why bother putting all that pressure on yourself when it'd be easier to make your own serial killer movie from scratch? Oh that's right, you fucking suck as a director and you need all the help you can get to trick people into thinking it's actually a good film they're coming to watch. House of 1000 Corpses was fucking horrible. It looked ok, but the acting, script and everything else associated with the movie was shit - I bet even the catering sucked. I will watch this movie, just to see the inevitable trainwreck, but i'll wait till it's shown on a sattelite movie station first, he's getting none of my money. All this "reasons he's a serial killer" crap will ruin horror, we don't want to sympathise with the guy who's hacking people to death, we want to be shit-scared of him. If Zombie can't grasp this simple concept, he can't be much of a horror fan. "And today on Dr Phil we have Leatherface, he was beaten and molested as a child and now he's a cannibal. Today he confronts his Grandad and asks him why". Bullshit!
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and no one has made me piss myself laughing more than Gwai Lo. Who the fuck is this guy? I have been in a few talkbacks today and he is asking the same friggin' question in all of them. Why so interested, fella? Do you need a GOTTA TAKE A SHIT mask? Hoping the merchandising for this movie will include this medical wonder? Its not a cure for constipation. I never wanted to refer to these ever, but Gwai, are you creaming over the flames on optimus? The nipples on the batsuit? The surfers balls? You are a strange little man, but you have made my day.
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Let me guess,Gwai Lo,you ALSO need a mask to defecate and to find out you have a kindred spirit(albeit fictional)just made your day.Are you gonna make one for your "shiza" club or something.Never mind.I don't want to know.Guess what,Poopy,the GOTTA-TAKE-A-SHIT mask is only referred to it doesn't actually appear.I could have told you that a long time ago,but it's just too damn funny watching a desperate pervert squirm.Maybe,if you ask really nicely,rob zombie might put it in the movie for you.Hell,he might even have another "present" for you.Just tell him you like corn,and peanuts and to eat a lot of cheese the day before.
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It would be much appreciated, thank you! Let me know where to mail you or something.
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It'd be much appreciated! Just let me know how you want to go about it.
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zombie sucks and you all know it!
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if Michael Bay was at the director's helm. I'm willing to give Zombie the benefit of the doubt. H1K Corpses and The Devil's Rejects certainly were different- different in good ways as well as bad. At least he's trying to bring some integrity back to the horror genre. I'm sure it won't be some PG13 pile of shit. I will go and see it when it comes out. Either Zombie is going to hit one out of the park or it's going to extremely suck. So much speculation surrounding this yet-to-be-seen movie.
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