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I am – Hercules!!

Jason “My Name Is Earl” Lee and the Foo Fighters appear on a new “Saturday Night Live” tonight, but if you’re among those who remember liking the show better when the likes of Joe Piscopo and Dana Carvey – rather than Will Forte and Amy Poehler - dominated it, have we got the show for you.

NBC combats “Desperate Housewives” and “Grey’s Anatomy” Sunday night with “Saturday Night Live in the ‘80s: Lost and Found,” a well-researched and interview-packed two-hour look at the post-Bill Murray era that gave us Eddie Murphy, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Billy Crystal, Martin Short, Chris Guest, Robert Downey Jr., Joan Cusack, John Lovitz, Phil Hartman and many another pop-culture icon.

The tale of the show’s fall and rise during that decade makes for fascinating storytelling, and it’s fun to see it illustrated with first-person accounts and well-chosen clips.

Featured in new interviews are former cast members Gilbert Gottfried, Gail Matthias, Denny Dillon, Tim Kazurinsky, Mary Gross, Robin Duke, Gary Kroeger, Jim Belushi, Billy Crystal, Martin Short, Jon Lovitz, Victoria Jackson, Terry Sweeney, Nora Dunn, Kevin Nealon, Carvey and Piscopo (who has somehow grown to resemble Hello Deli proprietor Rupert Gee), frequent host Danny DeVito, writers Lorne Michaels, Al Franken, Tom Davis, A. Whitney Brown, Robert Smigel, Conan O’Brien, Don Novello, Andy Breckman, Bob Tischler, Margaret Oberman, Andrew Smith, David Sheffield and Barry Blaustein, manager Bernie Brillstein, producer Dick Ebersol, and talent coordinators Laurie Zaks and Neil Levy.

(Those NOT interviewed, sadly, include the late Charles Rocket, Eddie Murphy, Brian Doyle-Murray, Brad Hall, Rich Hall, Christopher Guest, Dennis Miller, Robert Downey Jr., Anthony Michael Hall, Jan Hooks, Randy Quaid, Tom Hanks, Ben Stiller and Larry David.)

SNL LOST

“Lost and Found” kicks off with creator Michaels’ decision to depart the hugely successful SNL after five years. In a hilarious 1981 “Weekend Update” clip, Franken deplores both NBC’s “horrendous” decision to replace Michaels with Jean Doumanian, the show’s non-writing talent-booker, and NBC’s subsequent decision to replace Doumanian with Dick Ebersol, a non-writing NBC exec. (Undisclosed in the doc is that writers Franken, Tom Davis and Jim Downey were Michael’s choices to succeed him as SNL showrunners.) “Okay, now, who do they pick to rectify the original error? Someone who knows what he’s doing? Someone like me, Al Franken? No, they picked Dick Ebersol. I know Dick and I can tell you that he doesn’t know dick. Okay, now the show’s going to be a little better. No English-speaking person could do a worse job than Jean.”

Ebersol, relates writer Andy Breckman later in the doc, “was the only guy in the business I ever heard turn to somebody else and say, ‘Was that funny? I just don’t know.’ He would just admit, ‘I don’t know.’”

We’re reminded of how avidly potential cast members clamored for a shot at the start-over SNL, which in its first five years had turned Chevy Chase, John Belushi, Dan Aykroyd and Bill Murray into movie stars. Matthias reveals that one of her auditions lasted eight hours.

We’re reminded that Bill Murray returned to guest-host and appear in horrible sketches during the show’s first post-Michaels season. There’s a clip with him on a couch with Rocket, Risley, Piscopo and the others, talking with them about how much everybody hates the show since he left. “Yeah, I read that stuff,” laments Murray. ‘Saturday Night Live is Saturday Night Dead.’ My favorite, though, is ‘Vile From New York.’”

“Aristocrats” star Gottfried, who provides a lot of memorable commentary, remembers the loathing that greeted the post-Murray era: “It was like if, during the height of Beatlemania, you were going to remove the Beatles and have a whole new group of Beatles.”

Gottfried also laments his season’s poor craftsmanship. Doumanian, he says, “always stuck me as the type of woman who would watch a Marx Brothers movie and go, ‘Well, I like Margaret DuMont. But who are those weird gentlemen running around?’”

We’re reminded that the early Ebersol years, even though they brought back writers like Alan Zweibel and (briefly) Michael O’Donaghue, were plenty lame, with Kazurinsky ad-libbing alongside monkeys and Piscopo discovering endless excuses to drag out his Sinatra impersonation. (Piscopo’s Sinatra stylings appear particularly pathetic when compared to the much more pointed version Phil Hartman would offer on the show a few years down the line.)

Kazurinsky describes Eddie Murphy as a “mensch” and “team player” who, as the show’s star, fought to give more screen-time to his castmates. Kazurinsky also relates that “Dr. Strangelove” screenwriter Terry Southern, who briefly joined the SNL writing staff, had a terrific wet bar in his office, and fabulous cocaine, and kept pitching very odd sketch ideas. Julia Louis-Dreyfus remembers she was still a college junior when she was plucked from Chicago’s Practical Theatre to join the SNL cast. Andy Breckman relates that “Seinfeld” creator Larry David only got on sketch on the air the whole year he wrote for SNL.

“Some people resent that I wasn’t as good as John,” notes Jim Belushi, who followed his movie-star brother onto the show during the Ebersol era. “And my answer to that is, ‘Who was?’”

SNL FOUND

We are reminded that Ebersol’s hiring of more established (and expensive) cast members like Billy Crystal and Martin Short was precipitated by Murphy’s departure. Louis-Dreyfus and Belushi remember being reduced to “second-stringers” with the arrival of Short, Crystal and Christopher Guest. (We learn that Crystal and Guest went to college together.) Crystal reveals he very much wanted to do a second season but “nobody else wanted to come back.” Laurie Zaks, an SNL talent coordinator at the time, said she thought that with the departure of Short, Guest and Crystal, the show really was at an end.

Learn that when auditions were being held for Michaels’ first year back, Nora Dunn was working as a waitress in a restaurant right below the audition hall. (Another fact politely left out of the documentary is that Michaels and Dunn became bedmates around the time she joined the SNL cast.) Franken does a hilarious impression of fellow writer George Meyer melting down backstage.

Michaels’ first season back ended with a sketch about the everyone in the cast getting trapped in a fire, and Michaels choosing to rescue only breakout star Lovitz. “Some fo the cast members were kind of mad about that sketch,” remembers writer Smigel. “The ones who weren’t Jon Lovitz.”

Learn that Michaels’ manager, of all people, had to talk Brandon Tartikoff out of cancelling the show following the troubled Anthony Michael Hall-Terry Sweeney season. Learn that SNL was the first writing job for stand-up comic A. Whitney Brown, apparently one of the few writers on the show who didn’t attend Harvard. Learn that Victoria Jackson does a serviceable Lorne Michaels impression! Learn what Don Novello sounds like when he’s not doing Father Guido Sarducci!

Dana Carvey reveals that the Harvard grads would laugh at him when he mispronounced what they’d written for him. Harvard grad Conan 0’Brien reveals that he and fellow writers Smigel and Bob “Mr. Show” Odenkirk were collectively referred to as “the nerds.”

The doc also does a great job of reminding one how funny Jon Lovitz and Phil Hartman could be, alone or together. Laugh at Lovitz’ scientist trying to explain physics to Hartman’s Peter Graves. Laugh at Lovitz, as Satan, protesting nerdily as he’s about to get tossed out of “The People’s Court.” Laugh again as Lovitz and Tom Hanks man a street corner, utterly incapable of engaging passing young women in conversation. Laugh yet again as Lovitz, as Tonto, debates the merits of fire with Nealon’s Tarzan and Hartman’s Frankenstein.

Missing entirely is any mention of Ben Stiller (who appeared in about a dozen 1989 installments) or Mike Myers (who also joined the cast in ’89). (Curiously, a “Wayne’s World” logo appears behind the interviewees in the final segment, so perhaps it was decided in the editing suite that Myers’ earliest SNL material would be saved for the inevitable third documentary.)

If “Lost and Found” has a weak link (a “Garrett Morris,” if you will), it’s its many intrusive 15- to 35-second clips featuring the show’s many musical guests. The tunes are spliced in to comment on the show’s ever-changing fortunes, but actually feel like padding and slow the doc’s narrative flow. Even so, these not-altogether-unpleasant interludes are a small price to pay for such an otherwise well-constructed document.

9 p.m. Sunday. NBC.









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I have always contended ...
by Hercules
Nov 12th, 2005
07:10:34 PM
One year?
by zacdilone
Nov 12th, 2005
07:10:39 PM
I conceede...
by slder78
Nov 12th, 2005
07:14:36 PM
I'm gonna watch.
by stlfilmwire
Nov 12th, 2005
07:16:58 PM
a waste of time
by Holodigm
Nov 12th, 2005
07:19:33 PM
I do agree that Tom Shales' "Live From New York" ...
by Hercules
Nov 12th, 2005
07:50:57 PM
See Herc...
by slder78
Nov 12th, 2005
08:07:08 PM
Yeah whatever, the Ebersol years were the best.
by SPACEHUNTER3-D
Nov 12th, 2005
08:44:09 PM
Oh and Herc...
by SPACEHUNTER3-D
Nov 12th, 2005
08:48:18 PM
Shales SNL book is one of my prized possessions...
by RenoNevada2000
Nov 12th, 2005
09:14:55 PM
Lorne Michaels is amazing
by SifoDyasJr.
Nov 12th, 2005
09:53:31 PM
Billy Crystal
by SifoDyasJr.
Nov 12th, 2005
10:28:53 PM
Aw, you leave Garrett Morris alone!
by Horseflesh
Nov 12th, 2005
10:43:16 PM
Thanks, Herc
by howlingdervish
Nov 12th, 2005
11:03:29 PM
GreatOne
by Stanley Spector
Nov 12th, 2005
11:04:02 PM
The Caulk Skit
by Rcamacho2278
Nov 12th, 2005
11:04:25 PM
Foo Fighters are rockin
by Citizen Arcane
Nov 12th, 2005
11:11:22 PM

by skinnyharry
Nov 12th, 2005
11:13:49 PM
Not only is Rocket saying "fuck" included in the special ...
by Hercules
Nov 12th, 2005
11:14:19 PM
Buh
by The Thinker
Nov 12th, 2005
11:38:00 PM
Sanz lost his shit again
by Citizen Arcane
Nov 12th, 2005
11:42:52 PM
Seth Myers
by EyeofPolyphemus
Nov 12th, 2005
11:45:23 PM
THANK YOU skinnyharry
by omarthesnake
Nov 13th, 2005
12:09:05 AM
Thanks Skinny Harry
by Rcamacho2278
Nov 13th, 2005
12:16:43 AM
"The '70's shows don't hold up for shit."
by 3 Bag Enema
Nov 13th, 2005
12:23:31 AM
Skinny harry, are you saying..
by slder78
Nov 13th, 2005
12:54:44 AM
Dude, those shows just aren't funny anymore
by SPACEHUNTER3-D
Nov 13th, 2005
01:09:28 AM
Sorry, the 70's SNLs were mostly not funny.
by Citizen Arcane
Nov 13th, 2005
01:25:02 AM
Wait a second...
by Pops Freshemeyer
Nov 13th, 2005
01:47:42 AM
Great One
by OptimusPrimeTime
Nov 13th, 2005
01:49:24 AM
The caulk skit
by themikejonas
Nov 13th, 2005
02:06:24 AM
Oh ha ha, that Butt-pregnency skit was SO funny
by SPACEHUNTER3-D
Nov 13th, 2005
04:16:49 AM
Spacehunter
by zacdilone
Nov 13th, 2005
06:55:22 AM
Um- does Alhole Franken bother to mention that e was the one who
by genro
Nov 13th, 2005
07:20:53 AM
More great Macdonald-isms
by zacdilone
Nov 13th, 2005
07:54:41 AM
"This week the Belin wall has fallen. In other news, France surr
by Negative Man
Nov 13th, 2005
08:07:52 AM
"This week the BERLIN wall has fallen. In other news, France sur
by Negative Man
Nov 13th, 2005
08:09:10 AM
They did a Caulk Sketch?!?! Jeez...
by RenoNevada2000
Nov 13th, 2005
08:19:06 AM
Miller's reign on WU was great!
by RenoNevada2000
Nov 13th, 2005
08:21:06 AM
Bwahahaha ROTFLMAO France Surrenders!
by Gul Shah
Nov 13th, 2005
08:29:42 AM
Good show! I forgot how good it was back then.
by Samuel Steamer
Nov 13th, 2005
08:52:59 AM
You gotta Admit
by Rcamacho2278
Nov 13th, 2005
09:49:52 AM
I didn't start watching SNL until the 90s, but I fondly reme
by Voice O. Reason
Nov 13th, 2005
10:30:03 AM
Good Morning Meth!
by ZombieSolutions
Nov 13th, 2005
11:30:19 AM
Re: Live From New York
by streeter
Nov 13th, 2005
11:59:36 AM
also:
by streeter
Nov 13th, 2005
12:08:06 PM
Streeter:
by splungiest
Nov 13th, 2005
12:20:18 PM
did you guys catch that sketch where they confused 'caulk
by MiltonWaddams
Nov 13th, 2005
12:25:05 PM
EDDIE GUERRERO IS DEAD
by Voice O. Reason
Nov 13th, 2005
12:25:19 PM
Season DVDs?
by fattyaaron
Nov 13th, 2005
01:40:03 PM
splungiest: , and season DVD sets
by streeter
Nov 13th, 2005
03:41:29 PM
EDDIE GUERRERO IS DEAD?!!!
by Negative Man
Nov 13th, 2005
05:15:18 PM
EDDIE GUERRERO IS... uh... WHO THE FUCK IS EDDIE GUERRO?!?!
by ZombieSolutions
Nov 13th, 2005
05:25:35 PM
Eddie Guerrero
by Voice O. Reason
Nov 13th, 2005
05:53:47 PM
What about Francisco Franko?
by Citizen Arcane
Nov 13th, 2005
05:55:59 PM
best single episode? my personal fave:
by durhay
Nov 13th, 2005
06:06:38 PM
Eddie will be missed.
by Shermdawg
Nov 13th, 2005
06:32:53 PM
Pretty good so far...
by Voice O. Reason
Nov 13th, 2005
08:26:30 PM
MARY GROSS!
by Voice O. Reason
Nov 13th, 2005
08:31:09 PM
Its official: 1981-1985 > Today
by Voice O. Reason
Nov 13th, 2005
08:43:31 PM
HOLY SHIT!!!! "Rome" just had the bloodiest episode in Televisio
by Monkeybrains
Nov 13th, 2005
08:56:20 PM
Will anyone even mention the name Pamela Stephenson?
by Voice O. Reason
Nov 13th, 2005
09:05:25 PM
The music is thematic?
by Voice O. Reason
Nov 13th, 2005
09:15:48 PM
durhay- Did you catch this weekend's Classic SNL episode aft
by RenoNevada2000
Nov 13th, 2005
09:29:21 PM
Does SNL still get most of its writers from Harvard?
by EyeofPolyphemus
Nov 13th, 2005
10:10:23 PM
FIRE BAD!!!!!!!!!
by Voice O. Reason
Nov 13th, 2005
10:11:13 PM
I'm fascinated by the way you all seem to see the "old" SNL
by scrumdiddly
Nov 13th, 2005
10:15:41 PM
Fuck the Ivy League.
by Citizen Arcane
Nov 13th, 2005
11:48:16 PM
Its official: 1981-1985 > Today
by SPACEHUNTER3-D
Nov 14th, 2005
01:19:49 AM
P.S. 89-92 weren't even that great either...
by SPACEHUNTER3-D
Nov 14th, 2005
01:27:57 AM
I Found The Special To Be...
by buster00
Nov 14th, 2005
05:35:57 AM
Just Shut Up and Read the Fake News
by zacdilone
Nov 14th, 2005
08:36:04 AM
Nealon
by JohnnyFriendly
Nov 14th, 2005
08:48:28 AM
Why No Miller?
by Deandome
Nov 14th, 2005
11:16:03 AM
who wrote the sketch where...
by JackDonkey
Nov 14th, 2005
11:32:31 AM
Waikaki Hockey
by Vicconius
Nov 14th, 2005
12:27:24 PM
Forgotten SNL 80s BRILLIANCE
by Philosophucker
Nov 14th, 2005
01:35:26 PM
Hartman & Lovitz Sketch
by Mr Nice Gaius
Nov 14th, 2005
02:32:41 PM
You aren't fit to carry Garrett Morris' jockstrap!!!
by teedadawg
Nov 14th, 2005
02:42:41 PM
amy poehler the actress is a gimmick character
by JackDonkey
Nov 14th, 2005
02:54:07 PM
Phil Hartman was the man
by Citizen Arcane
Nov 14th, 2005
04:14:07 PM
Piscopo is miles better as Sinatra than Hartman
by Jobriath
Nov 14th, 2005
05:19:01 PM
The funniest writer on the show was Michael O'donoghue
by Drunken Rage
Nov 14th, 2005
05:58:21 PM
Preach It, Drunken Rage. NO Other Writer EVER Came Close To Mik
by buster00
Nov 14th, 2005
07:36:22 PM
did anyone see penn and teller make that submarine disappear bef
by jig98
Nov 14th, 2005
07:52:35 PM
"Waikaki Hockey"
by Voice O. Reason
Nov 14th, 2005
07:53:38 PM
Question-
by Barron34
Nov 14th, 2005
08:19:49 PM
Worst season of SNL? Have you people forgotten...
by My Ass Smells
Nov 14th, 2005
09:08:34 PM
Those years were pretty bad.
by Citizen Arcane
Nov 14th, 2005
09:44:32 PM
Amy Poehler is great
by adolfoliver
Nov 14th, 2005
11:30:58 PM
I agree, the Tom Brady episode was surprisingly good. And Poehle
by Lenny Nero
Nov 15th, 2005
12:26:47 AM
Every episode I've seen lately makes me miss Phil
by TempusFugitive
Nov 15th, 2005
01:03:57 PM
Piscipo's Sinatra vs Hartman's
by Blok Narpin
Nov 16th, 2005
01:48:52 AM
tempus fugitive, i'm with you on that.
by jig98
Nov 16th, 2005
08:52:43 AM

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