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Published on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 1:43am |
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Mr. Beaks Gets to the End of THE MIST with Frank Darabont!
(Disclaimer: this entire interview is one big spoiler for THE MIST. If you haven't seen it yet, please do something about that. There's a very nice DVD readily available, and a Blu-Ray disc scheduled for release on September 16th. Once you check it out, I think you'll want to come back and read what Frank Darabont has to say about the film's stunning conclusion.)
If I were to revise my Top 15 of 2007, I'd find a way to squeeze Frank Darabont's THE MIST. Though I still have a few problems with the somewhat contrived conflict of the first act (seemingly reasonable characters often take opposing viewpoints because it's narratively expedient), Darabont rewards our suspension of disbelief with a harrowing horror parable that measures up to Rod Serling at his very best. It's especially effective because you don't expect the writer-director of THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION and THE GREEN MILE to keep piling on the grim. Even if you're acquainted with the classic Stephen King novella, you still figure that the humanist in Darabont will win out. Surely the kid will at least make it out al--
Bang.
And that's just the first sucker punch. As far as I'm concerned, it's the one that comes after the gunshots that has THE MIST bucking for "horror classic" status. Though the film didn't catch on commercially when it was released to theaters last Thanksgiving, people who wrote it off as a low-budget genre programmer are discovering that it's a helluva lot more than that. The question is whether they admire or resent the film for daring to be more than just a scare machine; judging from the many conversations/arguments I've had regarding this film (and its finale) since last November, there seems to be a fifty-fifty split.
While THE MIST may never inspire a SHAWSHANK-level groundswell of popular support, I'm confident it will acquire its fair share of ardent defenders as the years wear on. So when I was offered the opportunity to chat with Darabont at the 2008 San Diego Comic Con, I leapt at it - even though the interview would be held on the convention floor (where the din of the geeks is hell on transcribing). Darabont was running a tad late for an autograph signing, but we still managed to get in a solid ten minutes of discussion on the meaning of THE MIST's ending.
Once Darabont exchanged pleasantries with a just-arrived Thomas Jane, we dove right in.
Beaks: It's great to be talking about this movie with you now. I missed you during the theatrical release, but now that THE MIST has been out for a while, we can focus on the ending. It's engendered some very passionate responses.
Frank Darabont: Pro and con.
Beaks: I've had a number of arguments over the conclusion, and interpretations tend to break down along political lines - though I do have a left leaning friend who read it as a conservative tract.
Darabont: Conservative!? Oh, no, baby! That's an outraged liberal tract!
Beaks: I agree. But she read your punishment of Thomas Jane's character as a swipe at defeatist liberal attitudes.
Darabont: (Pause) Wow!
Beaks: This is a very well-read individual, too. Very intelligent. But she was pretty resolute on this.
Darabont: Here's my feeling on such things. Whether I agree or disagree with this reading, I am absolutely delighted that the movie opens itself to interpretation. SHAWSHANK certainly does for people. THE GREEN MILE does for people. THE MAJESTIC probably less so. But I love movies that are open to interpretation, where people infer, or bring something of themselves to the table. If that's her interpretation, she's a right to it. As long as it stirs some kind of reaction. There's so much stuff we see that just washes over us; it plays too by-the-numbers, and then you're done. There is no interpretation to be had. There's just, "Okay, I watched something."
Beaks: Filmmakers are afraid to end their films with Bonnie and Clyde getting shot to shit, and then say, "Okay, there's your movie!"
Darabont: "Bye!" (Laughs) Well, I grew up in the 70s watching the movies that were coming out then, and I'm not the blanket acolyte who says, "All movies made in the 70s were genius." No, I was there, and there was plenty of by-the-numbers crap then, too. But I certainly will concede that there was more experimentation going on - certainly within the studio system - than there is now. We're trying stuff like that: the non-obvious stuff, the leave-it-open-to-interpretation stuff. I think that's wonderful. It's definitely what excites me. I don't necessarily want to walk out of the theater knowing exactly every stroke that the storyteller made. Because if I don't, then I get to walk out and think about it a little bit. "Gee, what do I have to bring to that?" It's like Stanley Kubrick movies - not that I'm comparing what I do to Stanley Kubrick. But there was always something that was open to interpretation to a greater or lesser degree, and that was always so stimulating to me, so intellectually exciting.
Beaks: Absolutely. That's the kind of excitement that got me queuing up multiple times for EYES WIDE SHUT. It was the type of film that raised so many questions, I wanted to go back and engage with it again. THE MIST was definitely one of those experiences where, after I'd absorbed the shock of the first viewing, I wanted to get back in there. I didn't think you were going to take us all the way there. I kept assuming there was a safety net, and, because of that, I left the theater shaking.
Darabont: Really?
Beaks: Oh, yeah. I just didn't see it going there.
Darabont: You know, some people love that sensation that you just described, and some people really don't. I knew going in that that would be a divisive thing, but some of my favorite movies were [divisive].
Beaks: Do you find that, after the fact, people are beginning to embrace this as they did SHAWSHANK? For different reasons, of course.
Darabont: I have no idea. I think only time will really tell, and I don't think enough time has passed for me to get a sense of it. But, geez, it took years for me to grasp that there was something special going on with SHAWSHANK, that it had some lasting value for people. So... I don't know. Come back in five or ten years, and we'll finally have an answer to that question. A fair one, anyway. I hope so! It'd be great!
Beaks: Do you think the film's reception was due to people not wanting to be hit in the face with the harsh realities of what it is we're going through as a nation - even on a metaphorical, microcosmic level? We just don't want to be perturbed?
Darabont: Oh, yeah. The whole "Don't Worry, Be Happy" syndrome that we have as Americans has never allowed for much getting slapped in the face by reality, I'm afraid. Certainly now is no different. It may be to a greater degree now than it has been before, but, again, time will tell. Retrospect is always the greatest tool. But, look, a part of me doesn't blame the average moviegoer for wanting to go to the movies half the time and walk out feeling happy because they saw the superhero beat the supervillain. I get that. Shit, I like that. I want that sort of film catharsis, too. Just not at the exclusion of something that challenges me on occasion, or kicks me in the nuts, or dares to piss me off - because I dig those movies as well. The art form, I believe, should count for more than just the opening weekend gross. That's how I feel about what we do. It should count for more than that. And when it does, I'm such a happy man. When I see PAN'S LABYRINTH, I say, "Thank god! Art happened! An artist showed up to work, and he painted with beautiful, elegant brushstrokes." It's like a Monet. It'll last for a while. It's not a blockbuster I'm going to forget in ten minutes.
Beaks: The nice thing with PAN'S LABYRINTH, though, is that people had time to discover that film. It was handled in such a way that the opening weekend was never a factor. But, getting back to the tone of THE MIST, I'm wondering if you were working on it pre-9/11, and, if so, whether the tenor of the piece darkened after 9/11.
I think my idea for what THE MIST was going to be was pretty intact prior to that event. I think what changed after 9/11 was my determination to make the movie. It felt like it was more relevant than ever. The issues it deals with are timeless: it deals with extremism; it deals with a mental condition of fascism; it deals with mob mentality. Those things have always been around, but it just went from being a timeless story to being a very timely story. To me. And that's what really made me want to buckle down and do it. The intention was always there to do it, but [9/11] just sort of reinvigorated the need to do it.
Beaks: When you were developing and, ultimately, shopping the film, did you ever get notes that said, "Well, obviously, you're not really going to kill the kid."?
Darabont: (Laughing) No. What I got was financiers saying "Okay, we'll fund your movie, but, of course, you have to change the ending." And I'd say, "Of course, I won't. And, of course, you won't finance it." I understood. And we shook hands and parted ways. That's why I wound up making it for Bob [Weinstein]. Bob was the only guy who said, "Wow, this is ballsy, this is crazy. I can get behind this, but you have to make it for a price." And so I wound up making it for him for about half the budget other people had been offering me. And I thought, "You know, that's a fair tradeoff. I won't make a salary, and I won't get the little things that I usually get for making a movie. But I get to make the movie my way. And I have to shoot it in six weeks. Financial accommodation was well worth being able to maintain the creative vision of the movie, and it's a choice I'd make again. I'm just happy to have gotten the movie made.
As with many of the interviews I conducted at Comic Con this year, I was prepared to go longer. But, in this instance, the autograph signing session was running fifteen minutes late, and who am I to keep Darabont from his public? Perhaps there'll be more time at a later date. For now, I'm just thankful that a gifted writer like Frank Darabont is out there fighting for the good name of an often disreputable genre.
Faithfully submitted,
Mr. Beaks
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Reader Talkback
Thanks for the article, Mr
Beaks by palimpsest | Jul 30th, 2008 02:02:48 AM | I loved the ending... by virtual_ninja | Jul 30th, 2008 02:04:47 AM | Yup, the ending was a kick in
the nuts...... by Aloy | Jul 30th, 2008 02:05:22 AM | The Mist was kinda sucky by Rupee88 | Jul 30th, 2008 02:09:24 AM | The Mist is great by reni | Jul 30th, 2008 02:11:20 AM | very good film by Bruarvatn | Jul 30th, 2008 02:11:47 AM | Rupee88 by shodan6672 | Jul 30th, 2008 02:21:35 AM | Gotta love Darabont by David Cloverfield | Jul 30th, 2008 02:27:21 AM | Darbont is great by m_reporter | Jul 30th, 2008 02:40:02 AM | shodan6672 by Rupee88 | Jul 30th, 2008 02:42:20 AM | Crystal Skull by GutsSpill | Jul 30th, 2008 02:43:42 AM | Why the ending was a piece of
crap by Greggers | Jul 30th, 2008 02:46:32 AM | If the ending doesn't tell you
that there's always hope by palimpsest | Jul 30th, 2008 02:50:26 AM | Yeah but it was a *good* kick
in the nuts! by BenBraddock | Jul 30th, 2008 02:52:11 AM | Shawshank Redemption sucked
too... by Rupee88 | Jul 30th, 2008 03:03:13 AM | Fuck the ending- by Commander Rah | Jul 30th, 2008 03:08:16 AM | Terrible CGI by godoffireinhell | Jul 30th, 2008 03:09:33 AM | the eding by Bruarvatn | Jul 30th, 2008 03:10:31 AM | cgi by Bruarvatn | Jul 30th, 2008 03:13:53 AM | I have no problem... by depalma25 | Jul 30th, 2008 03:31:10 AM | Rupee88 by depalma25 | Jul 30th, 2008 03:38:08 AM | Didn't enjoy this at all. by Shermdawg | Jul 30th, 2008 03:50:42 AM | Tom Cullen by Rupee88 | Jul 30th, 2008 03:52:03 AM | Loved the film until the
ending... by Zino | Jul 30th, 2008 03:52:36 AM | ...continued... by Shermdawg | Jul 30th, 2008 03:54:52 AM | the ending by ragingdrunklove | Jul 30th, 2008 03:58:12 AM | the ending is simply... by cifra | Jul 30th, 2008 04:01:34 AM | The Mist is an annoying movie by futureman3000 | Jul 30th, 2008 04:07:15 AM | bacci40 by Rupee88 | Jul 30th, 2008 04:11:02 AM | would lot ever give over about
9/11 ffs by bongo123 | Jul 30th, 2008 04:11:26 AM | Anyways i loved the ending,
horrors should by bongo123 | Jul 30th, 2008 04:13:52 AM | Best film of last year by kwisatzhaderach | Jul 30th, 2008 04:15:11 AM | Oh by kwisatzhaderach | Jul 30th, 2008 04:17:36 AM | why i hated the mist ending by hank quinlan | Jul 30th, 2008 04:30:39 AM | I'm surprised how divided
everyone is by nascentia | Jul 30th, 2008 04:33:09 AM | yeh loved it, kiss my ass
hater mofo's by quantize | Jul 30th, 2008 04:40:03 AM | I thought Solaris was an
awesome movie... by Rupee88 | Jul 30th, 2008 04:40:37 AM | Although the beginning seems
contrived by thetwat | Jul 30th, 2008 04:41:27 AM | Superb by cyberelf420 | Jul 30th, 2008 04:55:59 AM | Do Worry, Don't Be Happy by Iowa Snot Client | Jul 30th, 2008 04:57:18 AM | I don't get it... by Samplelord | Jul 30th, 2008 04:57:59 AM | Ending was bad cause it just
didn't make sense........... by Riley Martin | Jul 30th, 2008 05:07:33 AM | It's pretty condescending by InspectorDoppler | Jul 30th, 2008 05:21:04 AM | the ending was a repitition of
the movie by s0nicdeathmonkey | Jul 30th, 2008 05:22:05 AM | I liked The Mist, but, yeah,
the ending was... by fiester | Jul 30th, 2008 05:25:32 AM | Not my cup of tea by stvnhthr | Jul 30th, 2008 05:33:04 AM | The ending.... by Young Moses | Jul 30th, 2008 06:09:19 AM | No George Lucas questions? by surfsup22 | Jul 30th, 2008 06:16:14 AM | The Mist and Darabont by D o o d | Jul 30th, 2008 06:33:40 AM | Hank Quinlan said it all... by KillDozer | Jul 30th, 2008 06:49:08 AM | YackBacker by D o o d | Jul 30th, 2008 06:49:11 AM | recently watched it by Mr_X | Jul 30th, 2008 06:49:58 AM | Mr Beaks = AICN MVP for July by PotSmokinAlien | Jul 30th, 2008 06:53:18 AM | Darabont's Indy script sucked
ass! by Atticus Finch | Jul 30th, 2008 07:06:02 AM | The book was much better IMO
for all the reasons above ... by Shan | Jul 30th, 2008 07:07:09 AM | Loved The Mist. by Knuckleduster | Jul 30th, 2008 07:17:23 AM | Eyes Wide Shut by Cory849 | Jul 30th, 2008 07:43:19 AM | Hank Quinlan: EXACTLY. by Duck of Death | Jul 30th, 2008 07:53:07 AM | The only question Eyes Wide
Shut raised... by rev_skarekroe | Jul 30th, 2008 08:01:19 AM | The idiot characters wrecked
it at the outset by aboriginal | Jul 30th, 2008 08:01:42 AM | Crappy CGI... by Kid Z | Jul 30th, 2008 08:04:08 AM | As for The Mist... by rev_skarekroe | Jul 30th, 2008 08:06:22 AM | the MEHst by ironic_name | Jul 30th, 2008 08:09:26 AM | Mr. Beaks and 9/11 by BobParr | Jul 30th, 2008 08:12:26 AM | Great fucking ending by dr sauch | Jul 30th, 2008 08:27:40 AM | The Mist is a MASTERPIECE by Sithdan | Jul 30th, 2008 08:28:20 AM | Why the ending sucked by Funketeer | Jul 30th, 2008 08:45:51 AM | I'll have to watch it again... by dengreg31 | Jul 30th, 2008 08:58:51 AM | I thought the CGI was ok... by rev_skarekroe | Jul 30th, 2008 09:08:45 AM | LOVED The Mist. by HoboCode | Jul 30th, 2008 09:10:41 AM | my take on the ending by robamenta | Jul 30th, 2008 09:13:09 AM | robamenta by shodan6672 | Jul 30th, 2008 09:40:08 AM | THE MIST was a HUGE MISS... by hollywoodsummers | Jul 30th, 2008 09:43:57 AM | by shodan6672 | Jul 30th, 2008 09:43:58 AM | I can't wait for The Long Walk by robertkent.net | Jul 30th, 2008 09:44:48 AM | Tom Cullen: Religious Nutbags by kevinwillis.net | Jul 30th, 2008 09:54:38 AM | BTW, Haven't Seen the Mist by kevinwillis.net | Jul 30th, 2008 09:56:23 AM | The film's ending is contrived
and makes no sense by Lovecraftfan | Jul 30th, 2008 09:59:20 AM | It made no sense, dammit! by Isopor | Jul 30th, 2008 10:08:01 AM | BTW, King May Have Liked The
Mist by kevinwillis.net | Jul 30th, 2008 10:08:19 AM | Riley Martin... by -guyinthebackrow | Jul 30th, 2008 10:10:48 AM | The Mist was ass by Thot | Jul 30th, 2008 10:23:22 AM | Oh lucky you, talking with
Darabont by Aeghast | Jul 30th, 2008 10:51:15 AM | MIST IST MIST by Sir Perior | Jul 30th, 2008 10:51:34 AM | Thanks Beaks by Super Rabbi | Jul 30th, 2008 11:22:22 AM | The only distractingly bad CGI
in The Mist... by Nasty In The Pasty | Jul 30th, 2008 11:36:31 AM | I think Rupee 88 is the
BIGGEST idiot in the world by Ghostwood | Jul 30th, 2008 11:50:32 AM | Rupee88 is a tool by Eyegore | Jul 30th, 2008 11:57:18 AM | Rupee88 is a frakin moron!!! by Crackles | Jul 30th, 2008 12:17:38 PM | by nefarius1 | Jul 30th, 2008 12:27:33 PM | Bad Planet by Hikaru Ichijo | Jul 30th, 2008 12:58:51 PM | The ending was indeed
INARGUABLY out of character
for jane by IndustryKiller! | Jul 30th, 2008 01:15:32 PM | Eyes Wide Shut is HILARIOUS! by fiester | Jul 30th, 2008 01:36:07 PM | The Mist Ending. by fiester | Jul 30th, 2008 01:41:01 PM | Ok let me get this straight... by yiannis | Jul 30th, 2008 01:48:32 PM | Nihilism for Nihilism's Sake by The Alienist | Jul 30th, 2008 02:14:55 PM | 9/11? Really? by König Lear | Jul 30th, 2008 02:18:12 PM | sooooo tired of "soap-box"
movies. by TooWhippy | Jul 30th, 2008 02:24:26 PM | Greatest Horror Movie in
recent years by bee152 | Jul 30th, 2008 02:54:18 PM | Thought the kid was good as
Gordon's son in TDK by Andyrooskie | Jul 30th, 2008 03:07:24 PM | The Alienist by HoboCode | Jul 30th, 2008 03:30:45 PM | Piece of Crap by kbass | Jul 30th, 2008 04:22:44 PM | 9/11 by mrbeaks | Jul 30th, 2008 04:24:00 PM | Jeremy Smith top 15 list sucks
ass by ArmySmithaz | Jul 30th, 2008 04:43:10 PM | not enought sex by chipps | Jul 30th, 2008 04:51:34 PM | Sorta Okay... by symon | Jul 30th, 2008 04:57:16 PM | Kinda sucked. by 18to88 | Jul 30th, 2008 05:09:41 PM | Industrykiller! by -guyinthebackrow | Jul 30th, 2008 05:11:03 PM | The Ending made PERFECT sense. by ZeroCorpse | Jul 30th, 2008 05:12:24 PM | no bathroom facilities?!?!!!! by chipps | Jul 30th, 2008 05:14:03 PM | Yes. Nowhere to shit or piss. by ZeroCorpse | Jul 30th, 2008 05:31:49 PM | There's a reason that most
people think this movie is
shit by Rupee88 | Jul 30th, 2008 05:39:50 PM | And for the record, I probably
watched at least 30-45 minutes
of by Rupee88 | Jul 30th, 2008 05:44:07 PM | Oh Rupee...... by Crackles | Jul 30th, 2008 05:51:32 PM | "reasonable characters taking
opposing viewpoints" by zooch | Jul 30th, 2008 06:04:06 PM | shocking for shock
sake..perhaps by zooch | Jul 30th, 2008 06:25:23 PM | I actually thought his ending
would go for AWE... by Anti-fanboy | Jul 30th, 2008 06:26:05 PM | Rupee88 by Gwai Lo | Jul 30th, 2008 07:00:11 PM | The ending sucked ass. Plain
and simple. by Chrighton | Jul 30th, 2008 07:11:52 PM | "It must be reckoned with" by Geekgasm | Jul 30th, 2008 07:17:14 PM | Geekgasm by PotSmokinAlien | Jul 30th, 2008 07:29:55 PM | Oh, for fuck's sakes.... by futureboymaddog | Jul 30th, 2008 07:44:15 PM | Don't Usually Talkback, but... by Doug Exeter | Jul 30th, 2008 08:11:28 PM | The reason it failed was
shitty marketing by rjcjr9 | Jul 30th, 2008 08:33:36 PM | I loved it by dirtsandwich | Jul 30th, 2008 08:54:59 PM | Fun flick, very insulting
ending... by Billyeveryteen | Jul 30th, 2008 08:58:00 PM | 90% of the people in this TB
agree with me by Rupee88 | Jul 30th, 2008 09:08:37 PM | The ending by Cory849 | Jul 30th, 2008 09:10:58 PM | "Pan's Labyrinth" is an apt
comparison... by D. Allusion | Jul 30th, 2008 09:20:36 PM | Re: Beaks and 9/11 by BobParr | Jul 30th, 2008 09:24:44 PM | Its called TONE, Hobocode by The Alienist | Jul 30th, 2008 09:28:23 PM | 90% of the people in this
talkback are whiny little
bitches! by Crackles | Jul 30th, 2008 09:31:07 PM | Plus...... by Crackles | Jul 30th, 2008 09:34:28 PM | by nefarius1 | Jul 30th, 2008 09:40:20 PM | The mist DIDN'T dissapate at
the end... by Nasty In The Pasty | Jul 30th, 2008 10:17:43 PM | This movie didn't suck because
it had a dark ending... by KillDozer | Jul 30th, 2008 10:32:19 PM | Ending = Keep hope alive?
Really? by Greggers | Jul 30th, 2008 10:46:32 PM | just because by chipps | Jul 30th, 2008 11:07:58 PM | The ending sucked by criticalbliss | Jul 30th, 2008 11:35:12 PM | D.Vader by Rupee88 | Jul 31st, 2008 12:28:08 AM | I loved The Mist by krushjudgement | Jul 31st, 2008 01:19:56 AM | The Mist is one of the worst
movies of the decade by darthvedder81 | Jul 31st, 2008 02:47:07 AM | MIST was awesome by killianx | Jul 31st, 2008 04:24:29 AM | That "keep hope alive" stuff
was mine by palimpsest | Jul 31st, 2008 04:55:10 AM | The ending was awesome! The
crazy church lady was RIGHT! by fireclown | Jul 31st, 2008 07:00:08 AM | why doesnt Darabont shut the
fuck up about thsi movie? by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD | Jul 31st, 2008 11:05:02 AM | Mebbe he believes in it. by palimpsest | Jul 31st, 2008 12:10:40 PM | What's his next project? by mrfan | Jul 31st, 2008 12:22:57 PM | I haven't got a problem with
the movie at all by palimpsest | Jul 31st, 2008 01:17:56 PM | Fascism has many faces. by angel_svn | Jul 31st, 2008 02:15:39 PM | RILEY MARTIN... by SG Xibalba | Jul 31st, 2008 03:22:07 PM | My Take On THAT Ending by SG Xibalba | Jul 31st, 2008 03:23:35 PM | One of those movies........ by u.k. star | Jul 31st, 2008 05:28:08 PM | Kind of reminded me of Mamma
Mia by skani | Jul 31st, 2008 09:37:44 PM | ...because by skani | Jul 31st, 2008 10:03:30 PM | bacci40 by angel_svn | Aug 1st, 2008 09:17:13 AM | The ending and this film was
brilliant by BrightEyes | Aug 1st, 2008 11:50:25 PM | Best Horror ending in
YEARS!!!! by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYan
ks | Aug 6th, 2008 08:47:33 AM | Nasty In The Pasty is right. by Fawst | Aug 11th, 2008 09:40:53 AM | "Gerry" anyone? by norler | Aug 18th, 2008 12:14:43 PM | Ran across this... by Dosomo | Sep 10th, 2008 03:37:51 PM |
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