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Quint saw Tony Kaye's epic abortion movie, LAKE OF FIRE, at the Santa Barbara Film Festival!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I've dragged some ass post Sundance. I've been attending the Santa Barbara Film Festival and seeing a decent amount of flicks, but any free time I've had I spent either catching up on Sundance reports or sleeping or finding old New Zealand friends on MySpace (hi Julia). You know, important things.
So, I've got a fair amount of guilt about dodging the SBIFF coverage, but I'm here to shovel some coal and get the review train rolling. And what a way to start.
By far, my favorite film I've seen at the Santa Barbara Film Festival is Tony Kaye's epic documentary, LAKE OF FIRE. And it's one that by all means could have not worked out for me.
One, it's an abortion documentary. Two, it's a three hour long abortion documentary. Three, it's a three hour long black and white abortion documentary.
However, I was engrossed the whole time, the documentary flying by. This is helped by Tony Kaye's stance. He is completely neutral the whole time, showing both sides in extremely good light and pathetically bad light.
Our first glimpses of the pro-choice camp are them protesting the pro-life protesters at an abortion clinic and they are so damn annoying. They act like 5 year olds, mimicking the leader of the pro-life crowd. Yet the pro-life crowd has ten-fold more crazy people and flat out cold-blooded murderers in their ranks, including one amazingly entertaining, yet incredibly frightening preacher that recounts literal stories (in his mind) of women who got abortions carrying out the fresh fetus from the abortion clinic, parading it in front of the anti-abortion protesters, pulling out a grill, throwing the fetus on that grill, cooking it and eating it in front of the shocked anti-abortionists.
My own personal politics and views were challenged, strengthened and every step in-between.
There's some harsh shit in this movie, graphic, yet sterile, footage of the abortion process, from consultation to execution of the procedure. There are some flat out revolting shots of the doctors sifting through the contents of the vacuum, making sure there aren't any pieces left in the mother's womb. The little baby parts, recognizable hands, feet, faces...
I can see the religious right getting behind this movie and using it as a tool to gain support, but I can also see the pro-choice movement using it for those exact same purposes. For every graphic shot of a doctor measuring a severed baby's foot, there's footage or stills of a murdered doctor and the complete lack of disapproval by the pro-life movement. In fact, not just the lack of disapproval, but a definite approval of their murders and the support of others in the future doing the same.
The debate in all its forms is shown. The best speaker, by far, is Noam Chomsky, famous author and linguist. He dissects both sides succinctly and intelligently describes the conundrum of this argument. Both sides are right and both sides are wrong. You'd think that is just non-committal BS, but he goes into great detail on how that is not only possible, but you'll find it hard to disagree with him at all.
The film is amazing, eye-opening, heart-wrenching, funny, scary, sad... It is the end all be all of the debate, every single issue covered. You might not change your mind at the end of this movie, but you'll have a broader understanding of the argument.
I know Tony Kaye still considers this a work in progress, but I think it's as powerful as it can ever be. Roger Durling, head honcho of the Santa Barbara Fest, seemed to believe ThinkFilm was going to release the movie, but that hasn't been confirmed yet. If released, it'll cause quite the stir, but as I said before I don't think the uproar is going to be as crazy as some people think. I firmly believe both sides of the argument will embrace this movie. Whenever it is released.
-Quint
quint@aintitcool.com

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Reader Talkback
Yeah I'm sure by gboybama | Feb 2nd, 2007 04:51:02 PM | DEAD FETUSES (sp?) GOTTA EAT
AND ARE THIS YEAR'S LMS by Err | Feb 2nd, 2007 04:56:19 PM | GOTTA EAT DEAD FETUSES by Zarles | Feb 2nd, 2007 05:23:42 PM | Noam Chomsky admires Hugo
Chavez. 'Nuff said. by Pound Sand | Feb 2nd, 2007 05:23:48 PM | Yeah what is with this whole
"abortion" thing... by BGDAWES | Feb 2nd, 2007 05:36:24 PM | bring on that "road-kill used
in processed food" doco by Amy Chasing | Feb 2nd, 2007 05:50:41 PM | Abortion by JohnRevik | Feb 2nd, 2007 06:11:28 PM | Fuck DUDE! by halcyonseven | Feb 2nd, 2007 06:15:23 PM | ABORTED CHILDREN OF FUCKING
MEN!!! by PwnedByStallone | Feb 2nd, 2007 06:24:37 PM | JohnRevik by PwnedByStallone | Feb 2nd, 2007 06:28:51 PM | Pure and simple by covenant | Feb 2nd, 2007 06:47:19 PM | I shudder to think where this
talkback is going. by IndustryKiller! | Feb 2nd, 2007 06:55:05 PM | The whole reassembling the
fetus thing... by Garbageman33 | Feb 2nd, 2007 06:57:31 PM | Pwnedstallone by JohnRevik | Feb 2nd, 2007 06:58:47 PM | Pure and simple? by Amy Chasing | Feb 2nd, 2007 07:08:08 PM | Abortion = murder? then a
condom facillitates genocide by Err | Feb 2nd, 2007 07:15:24 PM | Maybe everyone should just
mind their own business by CarmillaVonDoom | Feb 2nd, 2007 07:24:56 PM | Daddylonghead you rule by CarmillaVonDoom | Feb 2nd, 2007 07:28:40 PM | I would be impressed if it
shook my beliefs. by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 07:28:53 PM | And anybody who calls Chomsky
"stupid" by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 07:31:53 PM | We're in Iraq to protect the
unborn Iraqi babies by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 07:45:23 PM | Daddylonghead by BGDAWES | Feb 2nd, 2007 07:50:14 PM | Daddylonghead... by ryanislyin | Feb 2nd, 2007 07:52:26 PM | ryanislyin by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 07:52:28 PM | I ain't no fucking liberal, T
1000 by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 07:56:09 PM | crazy defensive liberals by T 1000 xp professional | Feb 2nd, 2007 08:03:20 PM | fwiw I think coolguyaaron has
a good point by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 08:09:32 PM | Completely misrepresents the
debate by coolguyaaron | Feb 2nd, 2007 08:13:29 PM | everyone is Pro-Life. by HypeEndsHere | Feb 2nd, 2007 08:25:20 PM | 'Think the word... by JohnRevik | Feb 2nd, 2007 08:26:24 PM | I'd love to see the statistics
of murder abortion docs. by Optimus Murphy | Feb 2nd, 2007 08:31:36 PM | Johnrevik, you incurable
optimist by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 08:33:31 PM | Well optimusmurphy by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 08:35:29 PM | wow, someone agrees with me by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 08:49:34 PM | DLH by JohnRevik | Feb 2nd, 2007 08:56:20 PM | reminds of mr show line by luckylindy | Feb 2nd, 2007 09:18:17 PM | Back to the subject at hand by T 1000 xp professional | Feb 2nd, 2007 09:27:20 PM | That's the question, T1000 by theBigE | Feb 2nd, 2007 09:40:16 PM | HypeEndsHere by theBigE | Feb 2nd, 2007 09:44:13 PM | 'Pro-life movement' doesn't
condemn murder? by KCMOSHer | Feb 2nd, 2007 09:56:54 PM | . by HypeEndsHere | Feb 2nd, 2007 10:04:42 PM | www.abirdandabottle.com by bjork | Feb 2nd, 2007 10:16:54 PM | Im not clear on how you plan
to get rid of abortion by IndustryKiller! | Feb 2nd, 2007 11:07:33 PM | Daddylonghead by Sir Loin | Feb 2nd, 2007 11:09:56 PM | DirkBelig, what's
"ManBearPig"? by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 11:10:42 PM | Sir Loin, do you know ANYTHING
about Chomsky? by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 11:16:54 PM | How many are pro-abortion just
because it'll piss off.. by DirkBelig | Feb 2nd, 2007 11:17:15 PM | Daddylonghead by Sir Loin | Feb 2nd, 2007 11:23:08 PM | Ha ha ha, Sir Loin, you are
well-programmed. by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 11:36:05 PM | The third reason to have a
baby is... by Zarles | Feb 2nd, 2007 11:42:18 PM | I SUPPORT THE REGRESSIVE PARTY by Cylon Agent | Feb 2nd, 2007 11:42:27 PM | Daddylonghead by Sir Loin | Feb 2nd, 2007 11:45:26 PM | Logical error? by Thing-Fish | Feb 2nd, 2007 11:45:30 PM | Thing-fish, I am strongly
anti-colonscopy. by Daddylonghead | Feb 2nd, 2007 11:46:13 PM | Sir Loin, fierce defender of
the down-syndrome fetus. by Daddylonghead | Feb 3rd, 2007 12:03:02 AM | Dead Fetuses as alternative
fuel source by Dr Gregory House | Feb 3rd, 2007 12:09:15 AM | Hey Sir Loin by Daddylonghead | Feb 3rd, 2007 12:13:58 AM | Daddylonghead by Sir Loin | Feb 3rd, 2007 12:26:05 AM | Is WoW when your mom paints a
"W" on each asscheek by Daddylonghead | Feb 3rd, 2007 12:29:01 AM | Pizzaguy says, "Best point so
far: coolguyaaron." by thebearovingian | Feb 3rd, 2007 12:34:58 AM | tony kaye isn't mentioned once
in this talkback by troutpencil | Feb 3rd, 2007 12:49:46 AM | any of you guys women? by occula | Feb 3rd, 2007 01:49:13 AM | My hometown was ground-zero
for the media by CreasyBear | Feb 3rd, 2007 08:14:15 AM | Hitler by JohnRevik | Feb 3rd, 2007 08:29:21 AM | good one, john revik. by HypeEndsHere | Feb 3rd, 2007 09:06:31 AM | Abortions for some, but not
for others by Col. Tigh-Fighter | Feb 3rd, 2007 09:20:57 AM | Once Hitler shows up, the
debate has jumped the shark. by Daddylonghead | Feb 3rd, 2007 09:23:51 AM | theBigE by I Hope You Die | Feb 3rd, 2007 09:26:37 AM | "Neural development is the
only viable point where..." by HypeEndsHere | Feb 3rd, 2007 09:34:30 AM | I Hope You Die. Correct
answer, thank you by Col. Tigh-Fighter | Feb 3rd, 2007 09:53:29 AM | tough shit, rant. by occula | Feb 3rd, 2007 10:01:21 AM | Let's just roll this TB in
with the Roman Polanski one by tonagan | Feb 3rd, 2007 10:02:54 AM | Republicans love bringing up
Hitler. by Zarles | Feb 3rd, 2007 10:18:41 AM | I hope... by Massage...Bored | Feb 3rd, 2007 10:30:03 AM | don't fret, massage. by occula | Feb 3rd, 2007 10:31:22 AM | ALEXANDER? by Leafy McPlantsalot | Feb 3rd, 2007 12:05:55 PM | HypeEndsHere by I Hope You Die | Feb 3rd, 2007 12:13:33 PM | There is some dishonesty in
this film... by Dagan | Feb 3rd, 2007 12:35:25 PM | God, there are so many idiots
in this talkback by omarthesnake | Feb 3rd, 2007 02:24:14 PM | and dagan, you perfect example
you... by omarthesnake | Feb 3rd, 2007 02:28:21 PM | Abortion isnt murder. by Omegaman | Feb 3rd, 2007 02:51:46 PM | "An actual human being" -
let's work this out... by Dagan | Feb 3rd, 2007 03:01:24 PM | A baby is a person with
rights... "only at birth" by Dagan | Feb 3rd, 2007 03:05:14 PM | Chavez and rule by decree by Trader Groucho 2 | Feb 3rd, 2007 03:12:36 PM | The other argument that
doesn't work - "when
viable".. by Dagan | Feb 3rd, 2007 03:13:15 PM | bravo, omar. by occula | Feb 3rd, 2007 03:20:50 PM | Why conception is the only
standard that makes sense... by Dagan | Feb 3rd, 2007 03:22:59 PM | oh, and one more thing... by occula | Feb 3rd, 2007 03:23:35 PM | Our legal definition isn't
cncptn, vblity, or birth... by Dagan | Feb 3rd, 2007 03:40:55 PM | Think I'll skip this one. by Tinfang | Feb 3rd, 2007 04:39:00 PM | oh please by occula | Feb 3rd, 2007 04:48:56 PM | No I haven't occula. by Tinfang | Feb 3rd, 2007 05:06:55 PM | Occula by Dagan | Feb 3rd, 2007 05:15:14 PM | sorry dagan. by occula | Feb 3rd, 2007 05:51:06 PM | What pro-choicers should do by theBigE | Feb 3rd, 2007 06:43:36 PM | big e...you are so right. by occula | Feb 3rd, 2007 07:15:45 PM | This sounds entirely
intellectually dishonest... by JayDubya | Feb 3rd, 2007 07:34:49 PM | THE FILM IS NOT BEING
DISHONEST. by Cameron1 | Feb 3rd, 2007 08:08:34 PM | OCCULA by Leafy McPlantsalot | Feb 3rd, 2007 08:18:22 PM | occula by coolguyaaron | Feb 3rd, 2007 08:39:16 PM | How Can You Be Pro War But
Anti Abortion? by pockybot | Feb 3rd, 2007 10:40:26 PM | As Far As Gnome Chompsky... by pockybot | Feb 3rd, 2007 10:42:56 PM | pockybot by Sir Loin | Feb 3rd, 2007 11:22:13 PM | been readin for years, first
time i felt need to reply by jarjarsdeathrattle | Feb 3rd, 2007 11:42:51 PM | *sigh* by occula | Feb 3rd, 2007 11:44:42 PM | aaand... by occula | Feb 3rd, 2007 11:45:56 PM | oops by occula | Feb 3rd, 2007 11:48:42 PM | And I have to say that overall by jarjarsdeathrattle | Feb 3rd, 2007 11:52:54 PM | they were gonna be.
supposedly. by jarjarsdeathrattle | Feb 3rd, 2007 11:54:59 PM | i'm sorry occula by T 1000 xp professional | Feb 4th, 2007 02:30:53 AM | You Yanks are funny with your
crazy abortion debates. by Grando | Feb 4th, 2007 03:03:55 AM | Yes, Well Said Dagan by PhillipMarlowe | Feb 4th, 2007 03:04:02 AM | Grando, you on the other hand by PhillipMarlowe | Feb 4th, 2007 03:04:43 AM | Imagining Europe without
abortion by JackieJokeman | Feb 4th, 2007 10:18:12 AM | I'll agree with occula et al. by Daddylonghead | Feb 4th, 2007 10:47:36 AM | Muslims taking over Europe? by Daddylonghead | Feb 4th, 2007 10:56:17 AM | Roe v. Wade by ChildOfMen | Feb 4th, 2007 11:00:55 AM | Explain how... by runfoodrun | Feb 4th, 2007 11:38:38 AM | wow how stubborn by T 1000 xp professional | Feb 4th, 2007 11:43:48 AM | Thank you runfood by T 1000 xp professional | Feb 4th, 2007 11:48:18 AM | ChildOfMen: Agreed by Bob X | Feb 4th, 2007 12:23:13 PM | As a friend... by AngelCordy | Feb 4th, 2007 01:47:03 PM | points appreciated! by occula | Feb 4th, 2007 02:40:49 PM | *another sigh* by occula | Feb 4th, 2007 02:47:49 PM | Daddylonghead by JackieJokeman | Feb 4th, 2007 03:02:30 PM | Good Point occula by runfoodrun | Feb 4th, 2007 03:10:02 PM | Roe v Wade by majorbobhooters | Feb 4th, 2007 03:26:00 PM | Freakonomics is the new Bell
Curve by JackieJokeman | Feb 4th, 2007 03:32:16 PM | You know what's funny? by OBSD | Feb 4th, 2007 04:30:12 PM | TOO SOON by Pageiv | Feb 4th, 2007 04:51:44 PM | ANNOYING TALK BACKERS GOTTA
EAT by mattthebat | Feb 4th, 2007 07:32:22 PM | ABORTED FETUSES GOTTA
EAT!!!!!! by BigTuna | Feb 4th, 2007 07:34:58 PM | ChildofMen: A Rebuttal by JayDubya | Feb 4th, 2007 09:30:40 PM | The debate on abortion isn't
whether it is wrong. by one9deuce | Feb 5th, 2007 12:00:31 AM | pro life meat eating fucks by iorek | Feb 5th, 2007 04:43:05 AM | and another thing... by iorek | Feb 5th, 2007 04:48:14 AM | iorek... I thought you people
were a myth... by ejcarter9 | Feb 5th, 2007 08:11:00 AM | ejcarter9: just out of
curiosity by Bob X | Feb 5th, 2007 08:43:39 AM | Choice and Consequence by blackwood | Feb 5th, 2007 08:47:23 AM | Yeah, Hugo Chavez is a
horrible guy... by Batutta | Feb 5th, 2007 08:52:50 AM | Bob X, I refer you to this... by ejcarter9 | Feb 5th, 2007 09:30:09 AM | most of america holds those by iorek | Feb 5th, 2007 09:40:00 AM | from EJcarter9 - "I'm by iorek | Feb 5th, 2007 09:46:12 AM | iorek: you had me at "hello" by Bob X | Feb 5th, 2007 10:51:55 AM | What's to discuss? by PwnedByStallone | Feb 5th, 2007 12:03:30 PM | AAAHHHHH AAAAAAHHHHH AAAHHHH! by ELGordo | Feb 5th, 2007 12:26:20 PM | I just got off the phone with
the CGI fetus... by Forestal | Feb 5th, 2007 01:32:39 PM | I found this particularly
interesting: by Childe Roland | Feb 5th, 2007 01:34:06 PM | Iorek, by King_Midas | Feb 5th, 2007 01:59:43 PM | AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! by occula | Feb 5th, 2007 04:58:09 PM | The back alley abortion has
become a bit passe. by Childe Roland | Feb 5th, 2007 05:15:36 PM | Childe Roland by one9deuce | Feb 5th, 2007 07:00:06 PM | Ideally by Novaman5000 | Feb 5th, 2007 07:21:14 PM | They have actually found
correlations by Novaman5000 | Feb 5th, 2007 07:23:55 PM | one9duece, by Novaman5000 | Feb 5th, 2007 07:28:34 PM | Iron Chef 2027 by brakula | Feb 5th, 2007 09:01:54 PM | We are not becoming a
theocracy by PhillipMarlowe | Feb 5th, 2007 10:04:34 PM | JRKerr: Are you on crack? by PhillipMarlowe | Feb 5th, 2007 11:08:49 PM | anything with the words "epic"
and "abortion" by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz | Feb 6th, 2007 12:15:46 AM | Will you marry me,
Daddylonghead? by Manatee | Feb 6th, 2007 01:09:19 AM | fair and balance view? no way by stvnhthr | Feb 6th, 2007 08:59:54 AM | This has only happened three
times, it is not common. by stvnhthr | Feb 6th, 2007 09:04:21 AM | facts slightly off by stvnhthr | Feb 6th, 2007 10:02:53 AM | one9deuce by PwnedByStallone | Feb 6th, 2007 11:35:55 AM | Ahem by J Skell | Feb 6th, 2007 02:30:42 PM | PwnedByStallone by one9deuce | Feb 6th, 2007 03:17:53 PM | one9deuce by PwnedByStallone | Feb 6th, 2007 05:17:53 PM | Just curious by rivercb | Feb 7th, 2007 04:38:38 AM | Nevermind, Dagan had actually
answered that earlier by rivercb | Feb 7th, 2007 05:00:10 AM | on personal decisions & what
women do with their bodies by God Shamgodd | Feb 7th, 2007 08:08:05 PM | The most ridiculous idea in
this review... by readingwriter | Feb 9th, 2007 02:37:52 AM | any of you guys women? no,
then... by readingwriter | Feb 9th, 2007 02:40:45 AM | And thus this talkback
resolves the abortion
debate... by PurityOfEssence | Feb 9th, 2007 02:41:37 AM | About the bs about pro-lifers
not being against murder by readingwriter | Feb 9th, 2007 02:42:20 AM | God Shamgodd and readingwriter
by one9deuce | Feb 9th, 2007 03:41:48 PM | Skimmed through the
talkback... by Johnno | Feb 9th, 2007 06:34:09 PM | Johnno by ELGordo | Feb 10th, 2007 08:11:03 AM |
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