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Obi-Swan Warns That Episodes IV-VI May Be Back More Powerful Than We Ever Imagined!!

I am – Hercules!!

It took me a few years to realize it, but “The Empire Strikes Back” may be the best movie ever made. Better than “The Godfather,” better than “Godfather II,” better than “Raiders,” better than “Strangelove,” better than the Bedford Falls movie, better than “Pulp.” It’s ridiculous how great it is. And yet it’s just a sequel. I wish I could convey how excited I was when I first read Gene Siskel’s giddy-with-love review, and I wish I could convey how shell-shocked I was when “Empire” exceeded my hypered-into-a-frenzy expectations.

“Empire” has the funny gay robot, funnier than ever. It has the guy who effortlessly beat down Vader in IV, and it has that same guy winning the heart of the princess. Not a princess. The princess. And it has Yoda of Dagobah, when Yoda was willing to pummel R2 with a round stick to establish dominance over a Snackwell. And mynocks and carbonite and “I know” and an unhappy ending.

Obi-Swan is Moriarty’s writing partner and the man who loves Star Wars so much he’s drifted into territory so insane he’s actually come out on the side of sanity. He presents here the perfect and definitive review of the original trilogy DVD. There is no greater fan of the franchise, no greater apologist. I am unworthy to post his true-believer comments, yet am so jealous of his love I insisted I do so (even though Moriarty really did the editing). Obi-Swan, Moriarty and Hercules disagree about much, but I believe we all understand and share an transcendent understanding of the pure, shining moment in cinematic history that was “Empire,” and I was selfishly determined to wedge myself into this historic DVD moment.

“A New Hope” (or “Star Wars” as I will always know it) was pretty fucking fantastic also.

Bow, son of Jor-El. Bow before Obi-Swan. He knows which side of The Force he's on.

STAR WARS TRILOGY ON DVD

A Review By Obi-Swan

I remember the feeling of getting my first VHS copy of STAR WARS. I was fourteen at the time and my parents had just bought our first VCR. RETURN OF THE JEDI had come out in theaters only a year before, and I was starting to reflect on the entire six-year cinematic journey we had all taken. Watching that tape over and over again allowed me a look at the film I never could have had while it was in theaters. I tried to understand what it was that hooked me in the first place.

I recently had lunch with Mark Hamill to discuss his directorial debut, COMIC BOOK: THE MOVIE. Even though we were there for his film, I couldn’t help but go full-on geek and bring my old VHS for him to autograph. Mark signed it and was more than gracious as we chatted about STAR WARS. Understandably, he seemed a bit weary concerning the inevitable subject, but he allowed me to indulge for a while. I asked him what he thought about the new movies. “I like ‘em,” he was quick to respond, “but they’re not the STAR WARS movies we used to make.” When I asked him how it felt to watch the old movies these days, he replied, “It’s like looking at your high school yearbook. You look so different, it’s like watching an animated movie.”

That was a long time ago, and for the past few years I’ve been almost exclusively wrapped up in the prequels. Since the original trilogy wasn’t on DVD, that meant I had to drag out the old laserdiscs and contend with side changes if I wanted to watch them. As a result, I’ve mainly been watching the great DVDs of EPISODES I and II.

We’ve been waiting a long time for the classic movies to come to DVD. Even though these aren’t exactly the movies we saw all those years ago, I can’t help but feel like that fourteen year old kid again, holding my first VHS. It’s my fountain of youth. I’ll never actually be that kid again, but these films take me back to a simpler time. They remind me what it was like before I had to grow-up, pay bills, and hold a job. I intentionally stopped watching the laserdiscs and VHS tapes several months ago so I’d be good and ready. And now that I finally have the DVDs, I find myself watching them all over again, now at a striking new level of clarity.

WHY NOW?

Didn’t George Lucas say he’d only release these movies after the prequel trilogy was behind him? Jim Ward acknowledged this, but claimed there was an opening in Lucas’s schedule and it was just perfect timing. I have a guess as to the real reason why they’ve chosen to release these DVDs now instead of later, and this is pure speculation on my part, nothing more. I think this is exactly the same situation they were facing when the Special Editions were released on laserdisc and VHS. DVD was on the horizon and they knew there was only a small window of opportunity to make money with the old formats. Right now, High Definition is creeping up, so this is probably the last time they’ll be able to release these movies on regular DVD. I wonder how this release will eventually stand up next to High Def. Will they look like our VHS copies do now by comparison?

THE DIGITAL RESTORATION

Having said all this, the restoration is nothing short of jaw-dropping and worth the price of the box set. All three films looks spectacular... pure eye candy. They’ve never looked or sounded better. They’re so pristine it’s hypnotic. It’s not STAR WARS; it’s the dream of STAR WARS. I’ve seen these films a hundred times, but I was struggling to take my eyes off the screen. All three movies are stunning, but it’s NEW HOPE that is the most startlingly different. It’s a totally new movie and it will blow you away. I’ve had these discs for a couple days now and I’m still marveling at it.

The only draw back to these DVDs is the fact that the new source material is so much better than the current DVD format could ever allow them to be. These would need to be in a High-Definition home format or screened in a digital theater for us to see the true brilliance of the restoration. I’m surprised Lucasfilm isn’t doing a limited theatrical run in digital houses. Also, I’ve noticed some aliasing on certain shots when viewed on a regular 4x3 TV set. If you’ve got a nice 16x9 set, this shouldn’t be a problem.

The clean-up work on all three movies was preformed by the technicians at Lowery Digital Images, a Burbank, California-based company. Founder and CEO John Lowery, in one of the more interesting and uncensored moments during the DVD press day Q&A session, admitted that he would’ve liked to have had the films a little longer, adding that there are places in the film that stand out to him as needing more work. A distressed look from Jim Ward, Vice President of Marketing & Distribution for Lucasfilm, silenced Mr. Lowery. He made a quick about-face then concluded with a simple, “No... they’re perfect.”

Lowery is right, though. I just watched the trilogy in one sitting yesterday and there are a few shots that look less than perfect. In particular, watch the scene in JEDI when Wicket leads Princess Leia away after their altercation with the biker scouts. One shot jumps out from all the others. It’s like you’re suddenly watching laserdisc again. But these are just minor problems. I really enjoyed listening to Lowery speak. His honesty was surprising and a refreshing change from the usual predictability of these press events.

One thing Lucasfilm is adamant about with this new version of STAR WARS is that the films now “look even better than opening day.” They’re definitely different and they’re obviously cleaner, but are they actually better? I guess it’s all subjective. To tell you the truth, I can’t remember what these films looked like during their theatrical runs. It’s sort of like when Coca-Cola put out New Coke then switched back. We all forgot what the old Coke tasted like.

THE CHANGES

Jimmy Smits makes a brief appearance as Bail Organa on Alderaan right before it explodes in NEW HOPE, Boba Fett takes off his helmet to reveal Temuera Morrison on Cloud City in EMPIRE, and Ian McDiarmid mentions Padme Amidala by name and describes how she inadvertently maneuvered him into the seat of power while reminiscing with Luke on the new Death Star in JEDI.

Not.

Astonishingly, there aren’t many big changes to the films, but there’s an ass-load of tiny changes, mainly on the soundtrack in the form of additions and subtractions in dialogue. In the Jawa sandcrawler, C3P-0 now has the line, “We’ve stopped,” right before the doors open and they’re herded out. As Luke fires on the stormtroopers following Obi-Wan’s demise, there’s an additional “Luke, come on!” from Princess Leia. After the two stormtroopers walk through the Millennium Falcon, one of them now says, “There’s no one here.” During the Death Star attack, the line, “He’s on your tail,” has been removed again. And Vader’s voice sounds different. I don’t know if this is the result of the new mix, or if it’s an intentional change to make him sound more like he does in the other films.

The most notable on-screen change to NEW HOPE is the inclusion of a new Jabba the Hutt. He looks much better than he did in the ’97 cut. The animation is more subtle and has more character. It’s much closer to the creations in the prequels.





Other changes include a new landspeeder swooping into Mos Eisley, and the Dianoga in the trash compactor has a more realistic, articulate eye. The lightsabers also look much better. For some reason, though, Luke’s lightsaber is green when he’s practicing with the remote. Greedo still shoots first, but it doesn’t look as bad. And sorry, kids, Chewie does not get a medal. Come on, George. Can a Wookie get a medal?

Like the Special Editions, EMPIRE is the film that gets messed with the least. This is no doubt because of Lucas’s respect for director Irvin Kershner. The biggest change is the replacement of the old Emperor with Ian McDiarmid. The lines are a little different, too. It seems that Vader is unaware of his son and the Emperor also mentions the name Anakin Skywalker during the exchange. I was talking with a friend who absolutely loathes this alteration. I don’t mind it, though, and it connects the film to the rest of the saga.





Other changes include Temuera Morrison’s voice for Boba Fett and the removal of Luke’s girly scream as he chooses a jump to his death over a future at Vader’s side. The scream always put me in mind of a Mountain Dew commercial. I kept expecting a can to fly into Luke’s hand. Luke’s scream was as nasty a stone in the shoe of STAR WARS fans as Greedo shooting first. And now it’s gone. I guess we complained loud enough.

JEDI is far from a perfect film, no matter how many CGI Muppets get jammed in there. It isn’t without its charms, though, and it definitely delivers when the Emperor comes into the picture. Jabba’s palace keeps getting worse and the Ewoks are still annoying and unrealistic. A little CG animation on select faces at key moments would help quite a bit.

One aspect of Jabba’s palace that’s actually significantly better is the appearance of Oola, Jabba’s main dancer, played by Femi Taylor. As a kid watching the initial VHS release, I freaked out when I realized her boob pops out right before she falls through the trapdoor. It’s not just a nip-slip; it’s an entire tit-slip. Thank the maker, Lucas has chosen not to delete this juicy wardrobe malfunction. Since it’s obvious this section of the movie is for the kiddies, I’m surprised it’s survived all these recent editions. And with the new digital clean up her nipples are even more visible right after she plummets into the Rancor pit. Check out the pictures. All I’m saying is, it must be really cold down there.





The significant new changes occur late in the film. When Vader is unmasked, Sebastian Shaw’s eyebrows have been removed. The effect is chilling and I suspect it was done to add continuity to what we’re about to see in REVENGE OF THE SITH.





Later during the Galactic celebration sequence, we see a celebration on Naboo outside the main palace. Gungans dance on the top of one building and one of them exclaims, “Wesa free!” I’m not kidding. The pan across Coruscant now reveals the Senate and the Jedi Temple in the background.

The most noticeable change occurs moments later when the spectral images of Obi-Wan, Yoda and Anakin appear. Hayden Christensen now replaces the elderly Shaw as Anakin, who sports his EPISODE III quaff and seems pleased with his youthful appearance. And Obi-Wan seems cool with this deal, for some reason. This is a strange message Lucas is sending here. Obi-Wan led a good life, never went to the darkside, and yet he’s decrepit in the afterlife. Anakin took the quick and easy path, allowed himself to be ruled by evil, and his Force Ghost looks ready to go to the mall and pick up high school chicks. I know which side of the Force I’m on.

A lot of people are already complaining online about these changes. It’s really no surprise to me that more changes have been made. And if we don’t like ‘em... tough. Lucas has made it abundantly clear that STAR WARS is not a democracy. Just like the Empire. I get the feeling he doesn’t care if the kid from ’77 disapproves of recent tinkering. I strongly suspect that all he cares about is satisfying his own artistic whims and eccentricities. I’ve watched the first film three or four times now, and these changes aren’t enough to pull me out of the film and ruin it.

THE MENUS

Like the previous work done on the DVDs for EPISODE I and II, the Original Trilogy DVDs have three random animated film-themed menu sets. These are actually a little better than the stuff on the Prequel Trilogy DVDs. There’s more dialogue and the clips just feel more like part of the films.

After the piracy warning at the start of the disc, the STAR WARS logo pulls back, filled with moving images from the film. At the EPISODE II DVD press event, I asked Van if this was inspired by the Manga STAR WARS comic adaptations, which displays a strikingly similar logo at the front of each book. “Actually, it wasn’t,” he responded sharply. “That just felt right. But I’m sure I’m not the only one who has thought about that... thought about that idea. I think that we started doing that on Episode I, and we wanted to carry that through. But if it follows a Manga tradition, I’d be, you know, I’d be proud to be a part of it.”

Whatever the case, Van Ling and his team have certainly outdone themselves this time. The menus are film-like and transition in and out of the moves and all over the discs beautifully.

SPECS ON ALL THREE MOVIES

Rated PG, letterboxed widescreen (2.35:1), 16x9 enhanced, THX-certified, single-sided, RSDL dual-layered, keep case packaging with custom slipcase, THX Optimizer, DVD-ROM weblink, 3 random animated film-themed menus sets with dialogue and music, scene access, languages: English (DD 5.1 EX & 2.0 Surround), French and Spanish (DD 2.0 Surround), subtitles: English, Closed Captioned.

A NEW HOPE: 125 mins, commentary with writer/director George Lucas, star Carrie Fisher, sound designer Ben Burtt and special effects supervisor Dennis Muren, layer switch at 63:08 at the start of chapter 28.

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: 127 mins, commentary with writer/producer George Lucas, director Irving Kershner, star Carrie Fisher, sound designer Ben Burtt and special effects supervisor Dennis Muren, layer switch at 58:02 in chapter 27.

RETURN OF THE JEDI: 135 mins, commentary with writer/producer George Lucas, star Carrie Fisher, sound designer Ben Burtt and special effects supervisor Dennis Muren, layer switch at 62:38 at the start of chapter 22.

THE BONUS MATERIAL

The fourth disc of bonus material is similar to the bonus discs for EPISODES I and II. It’s loaded with trailers, documentaries and great behind the scenes stuff. The only thing that’s missing is a deleted scenes section, which would have ruled. There is a blooper reel, but it isn’t very funny. The best part comes when Chewie catches fire on the skiff in JEDI. It’s not funny, but it’s cool.

The Characters Of Star Wars, The Birth Of The Lightsaber, and The Force Is With Them: The Legacy Of Star Wars are the three featurettes on the disc. There’s lots of great behind the scenes footage that we’ve never seen before and some DVD quality transfers of shots from the movies that have been cut and replaced in the Special and DVD Editions. LORD OF THE RINGS director Peter Jackson pops up occasionally and even compares Lucas to Tolkien at one point. Together, these docs total about fifty minutes.

The Return Of Darth Vader offers a brief glimpse into the key moments of REVENGE OF THE SITH. Specifically, the transformation of Anakin Skywalker into the legendary villain, Darth Vader. There’s a fascinating bit in which Lucas discusses the dark path Anakin goes down. As he’s describes it, it sounds more like he’s describing his own transformation as a filmmaker and his revisionist handling of his movies. “It was his greed to control things that were his undoing. The problem that Anakin has in the whole thing is he has a hard time letting go of things.” Will George ever be able to let go? Will his desire to control every detail of these movies be his undoing?

During the Q&A session at the DVD press day, things turned ugly for a few minutes when questions focused on the changes. One person put it nicely when he suggested that if Lucas completely erases aspects of his original works, we’ll never be able to have proper perspective of him as an artist. Jim Ward countered with “This is really a question for George, but I’ll support his right as an artist to change his work.” I’m curious how the young Lucas who made these movies would feel about the older version of himself coming in and altering his work.

When I visited Skywalker Ranch in 2001, I asked Mr. Lucas about the making of his saga and how technology has dramatically changed from the early days. “When we made STAR WARS it was with a sort of pioneering spirit,” he explained, “but now it's sort of old hat. You know, people forget very quickly the technological advances that are made on each movie. I guess there are technological advances made all the time. It's a progression of the medium, especially in terms of being able to incorporate digital characters and sets and that sort of thing. It had been done before but not on this scale. And you know the next film will be more extreme and I assume that when I make the third one it'll be even more extreme.”

Based on the preproduction artwork I saw at the San Diego ComicCon and based on the last forty minutes of ATTACK OF THE CLONES, I have no doubt REVENGE OF THE SITH will be the most remarkable special effects film of all time. It’s also going to serve as the bridge to the original trilogy. The coolest part of the Darth Vader documentary comes at the very end with the unveiling of Hayden in the Vader costume. It’s just a quick couple of shot, but I can see how compelling the connection has the potential to be in the final film. Anakin, as Vader, turns to a person next to him, who appears to be Ian McDiarmid as Darth Sidious. When they showed us this at the ComicCon, I nearly shat my pants. Upon watching it again on DVD, I’ve noticed that the shot has to be from the birth of Vader sequence. If you look closely at the shot, you’ll notice that Vader is secured to a slab behind him, shackled by the wrists. I can’t believe they’ve given this moment away so early.





There are more trailers and TV spots than you can shake a lightsabers at. Twelve TV spot and 10 trailers, actually. They’re letterboxed and in 16x9, which is awesome. I’m not sure why they only included the first of the three Special Edition trailers, though. Also included is a production photo gallery, poster art gallery, Episode III: Making the Game featurette, videogame trailer, playable Star Wars Battlefront Xbox game demo, Easter egg blooper reel, and a DVD-ROM weblink to all kinds of exclusive content.

This box is a damn decent chunk of STAR WARS and an awesome way to pass the time until REVENGE OF THE SITH. As always, George Lucas is predictably unpredictable when it comes to what we’re actually getting with our periodic STAR WARS fix. There’s stuff we don’t get that we’ve wanted for years, and there’s stuff we get that I had no idea even existed. It might be considered a mixed bag for some fans, but I find the set very satisfying and I suspect it will make a few bucks for Lucasfilm starting September 21, 2004.

May the Force be with you, and since we’re already changing things, I’ll ask again… may Chewie one day get his medal.













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Empire is SO overrated
by chrth
Sep 16th, 2004
12:32:13 AM
Thanks for the review...
by pianukim
Sep 16th, 2004
12:37:24 AM
What about...
by MeekayD
Sep 16th, 2004
12:39:41 AM
Just caught Empire SE tonight at the UF theater on campus
by George Newman
Sep 16th, 2004
01:08:11 AM
Fine, but I'll still hold onto my laserdiscs.
by Cash Bailey
Sep 16th, 2004
01:09:41 AM
Between this set and the TOS box sets...
by Kentucky Colonel
Sep 16th, 2004
01:14:16 AM
For those of you who want their Original Trilogy "Un-Lucasized".
by OgieOglethorpe
Sep 16th, 2004
01:19:19 AM
Holiday Special??
by ThisGuy
Sep 16th, 2004
01:19:29 AM
Surprised They Didn't Do More
by MrStinger
Sep 16th, 2004
01:20:03 AM
Tuesday Rules
by Darth Melkor
Sep 16th, 2004
01:32:19 AM
The spirit should be representative of his Whole life, not just
by George Newman
Sep 16th, 2004
01:34:57 AM
These films should Not be viewed from 1 to 6
by George Newman
Sep 16th, 2004
01:40:17 AM
Not a bad review...here is my take
by Lezbo Milk
Sep 16th, 2004
01:42:16 AM
Star Wars
by slick1
Sep 16th, 2004
01:45:47 AM
Speaking of Tolkien.............
by Solrider77
Sep 16th, 2004
01:48:23 AM
DVD's
by slick1
Sep 16th, 2004
01:50:56 AM
Not an apologist but...
by EeterOfWurldz
Sep 16th, 2004
02:14:39 AM
BS!!
by SubversiveRusski
Sep 16th, 2004
02:15:28 AM
"I
by SmarkJobber
Sep 16th, 2004
02:15:36 AM
Lucas you Nerdherder
by Dr Farragammo
Sep 16th, 2004
02:17:13 AM
I really like ROTJ...I think its bad ass.
by Jon E Cin
Sep 16th, 2004
02:19:02 AM
off the subject
by gravy_suckin_pig
Sep 16th, 2004
02:35:19 AM
y'know, it may not look it but in the Original Edition is sure a
by Tall_Boy
Sep 16th, 2004
02:37:45 AM
LUCAS ADMITS HE'S BECOME THE EMPIRE: "I've become the very thing
by robogeek.com
Sep 16th, 2004
02:51:13 AM
FYI...
by Demon Disco
Sep 16th, 2004
03:15:58 AM
You guys are missing the point...
by DocPazuzu
Sep 16th, 2004
04:04:51 AM
Good job, Obi-Swan
by BAMF
Sep 16th, 2004
04:15:11 AM
Why a young ghost?
by Hairy Nutsack
Sep 16th, 2004
04:55:20 AM
Picking up high school chicks is the path to the DARK SIDE.
by HOTPANTS
Sep 16th, 2004
05:20:38 AM
The day will come when we can edit our OWN versions from home!
by truthseekr1488
Sep 16th, 2004
05:47:39 AM
Having Han not shoot first destroys the emotional core of his ch
by Spacker Dave
Sep 16th, 2004
05:48:31 AM
why now, mr lucas...? here's why...
by web labrador
Sep 16th, 2004
06:39:41 AM
No Mark Hammil on commentary? Gip.
by Messy_Dwarf
Sep 16th, 2004
06:40:32 AM
Anakin the clone...
by stlfilmwire
Sep 16th, 2004
06:49:12 AM
"Will they look like our VHS copies do now by comparison?" - hoo
by SalvatoreGravano
Sep 16th, 2004
07:04:01 AM
"I really enjoyed listening to 'Lowery' speak"...
by SalvatoreGravano
Sep 16th, 2004
07:06:25 AM
By the way, all of those "new" shackled-Vader shots have been po
by SalvatoreGravano
Sep 16th, 2004
07:24:14 AM
STAR WARS is a democracy and I'm voting with my wallet
by RenoNevada2000
Sep 16th, 2004
07:41:59 AM
Skipping sync on pirate OT DVDs?
by SalvatoreGravano
Sep 16th, 2004
07:48:20 AM
Oh, I'll say this for GL...
by SalvatoreGravano
Sep 16th, 2004
08:06:39 AM
Hmm, what's the reason of the obsession with Oola? Didn't you kn
by MrVess
Sep 16th, 2004
08:36:53 AM
Solrider77
by The Killer-Goat
Sep 16th, 2004
08:38:25 AM
Once More Into the Breach
by Playhouse
Sep 16th, 2004
08:41:23 AM
While we all reminisce, I'll tell you about the Star Wars effect
by Floyd Gondolli
Sep 16th, 2004
08:52:40 AM
I've never understood why the Greedo encounter even had to be ch
by FluffyUnbound
Sep 16th, 2004
09:17:25 AM
Sounds pretty cool...I'll be sure and download it.
by minderbinder
Sep 16th, 2004
09:41:12 AM
"They're HIS films!"
by jollysleeve
Sep 16th, 2004
09:42:28 AM
What's the fucking deal with whining about the LOTR dvd's? Both
by minderbinder
Sep 16th, 2004
09:46:28 AM
burying the classic versions
by Mr Brownstone
Sep 16th, 2004
09:51:52 AM
listen to jollysleeve -- he's right on the money!
by Mr Brownstone
Sep 16th, 2004
10:01:23 AM
ROTJ Anakin
by jaminator45
Sep 16th, 2004
10:01:48 AM
Oldman quit star wars
by jaminator45
Sep 16th, 2004
10:05:54 AM
Yes, Greedo still shoots first, but....
by DocPazuzu
Sep 16th, 2004
10:16:02 AM
The real question
by Itchy
Sep 16th, 2004
10:16:54 AM
Empire is the best movie ever? Maybe in Fantasyland.
by Lou C.
Sep 16th, 2004
10:31:02 AM
To all the people bitching about the changes...
by Sod Off Baldric
Sep 16th, 2004
10:32:32 AM
George forgot one thing...
by Christopher3
Sep 16th, 2004
10:40:42 AM
This is insanity.
by radio1_mike
Sep 16th, 2004
10:43:59 AM
P.S.
by Christopher3
Sep 16th, 2004
10:47:42 AM
Is the giant running shoe in space still there too?
by Alex Rogan
Sep 16th, 2004
10:55:19 AM
It's a Young Anakin ghost because that was when he was last apar
by genro
Sep 16th, 2004
10:56:49 AM
Play D'oh, you're a moron
by Jeditemple
Sep 16th, 2004
11:02:19 AM
Did Lucas ever fix the crummy blue screen monster Luke fights in
by Crimson Dynamo
Sep 16th, 2004
11:10:23 AM
Those changes sound good, except for the end of JEDI.
by Mr. Anderson
Sep 16th, 2004
11:15:38 AM
Clive Revill, we hardly knew ye
by GypsyTRobot
Sep 16th, 2004
11:23:20 AM
To Killer-Goat
by Solrider77
Sep 16th, 2004
11:41:30 AM
To Killer-Goat (Let me clarify something)
by Solrider77
Sep 16th, 2004
11:59:09 AM
Greedo must be a hopeless shot....
by TheAllSeeingEye
Sep 16th, 2004
12:02:47 PM
WTF! Why does Han have four fingers in that pic with Jabba?!
by oliveboy
Sep 16th, 2004
12:18:19 PM
Oh and can someone explain something
by TheAllSeeingEye
Sep 16th, 2004
12:19:12 PM
The changes in "The Hobbit"...
by pandamaster83
Sep 16th, 2004
12:43:58 PM
I didn't buy them on Ebay, I got them at a comic-convention for
by Tall_Boy
Sep 16th, 2004
12:44:03 PM
If you read...
by Childe Roland
Sep 16th, 2004
12:44:17 PM
I should say...
by pandamaster83
Sep 16th, 2004
12:46:19 PM
"Hayden Christensen now replaces the elderly Shaw as Anakin, who
by Spike Fett
Sep 16th, 2004
12:50:27 PM
If you idiots continue to buy these bastardized versions of Star
by Megaladon
Sep 16th, 2004
12:53:02 PM
Pic of Han & Jabba
by Spike Fett
Sep 16th, 2004
01:00:31 PM
Crimson Dynamo...
by Nexus-6
Sep 16th, 2004
01:02:05 PM
Here's my problem with the special editions...
by Cappybeara
Sep 16th, 2004
01:11:31 PM
Oola is actually Jar-Jar...
by SleepingCat
Sep 16th, 2004
01:19:16 PM
Lucas does NOT have the right to tinker with these movies, no ma
by Hung-Wei Lo
Sep 16th, 2004
01:24:01 PM
Here's another question?
by Solrider77
Sep 16th, 2004
01:30:37 PM
No Thanks
by Kirk's Toupee
Sep 16th, 2004
01:38:48 PM
Isn't hate the way to the Dark Side ? Guys....mellow out and lis
by RobinP
Sep 16th, 2004
01:46:36 PM
Thing I'm most disappointed about is the commentaries
by Dragonfire
Sep 16th, 2004
01:47:37 PM
Explaination of Anakin's 'Jedi' Appearance
by SimmyT
Sep 16th, 2004
02:38:40 PM
visions at end of ROTJ
by SPlissken
Sep 16th, 2004
03:00:42 PM
Solrider77 - On Tolkien and Hobbit vs Lucas and Star Wars
by Sinistar
Sep 16th, 2004
03:16:04 PM
Buy these on DVD and then return them
by Motterman2K3
Sep 16th, 2004
03:26:48 PM
It's not the film, it's you
by lettersoftransit
Sep 16th, 2004
03:34:03 PM
Vader shackled to a slab?
by Jack Burton
Sep 16th, 2004
03:50:16 PM
Why the OT should NOT "fit" with the Prequels
by freethinker
Sep 16th, 2004
04:05:54 PM
Sinistar Responses to my Tolkien vs. Lucas question
by Solrider77
Sep 16th, 2004
05:02:43 PM
"Seems like there's nothing like an article about the most succe
by minderbinder
Sep 16th, 2004
05:03:35 PM
While your at it George..
by conspiracy
Sep 16th, 2004
05:34:57 PM
I'm passing on this.
by screenplaywriter
Sep 16th, 2004
05:55:17 PM
CARRIE!
by zacdilone
Sep 16th, 2004
06:09:24 PM
"He chooses the younger form for Luke's benefit"
by kiddae
Sep 16th, 2004
06:14:17 PM
Solrider, it seems to me from reading these posts
by Big Jim
Sep 16th, 2004
06:16:37 PM
And I won't be buying these...
by kiddae
Sep 16th, 2004
06:18:02 PM
*sigh*
by DrLektor
Sep 16th, 2004
06:32:37 PM
oh yeah
by DrLektor
Sep 16th, 2004
06:43:09 PM
It's So Great
by DSB1369
Sep 16th, 2004
06:51:37 PM
Hey, tubby_bitch
by DocPazuzu
Sep 16th, 2004
07:02:26 PM
zacdilone
by DocPazuzu
Sep 16th, 2004
07:05:48 PM
2 things
by Darth Thoth
Sep 16th, 2004
07:29:41 PM
Reason EMPIRE is the best STAR WARS movie
by Voice O. Reason
Sep 16th, 2004
07:46:18 PM
"It's a totally new movie..."
by Rupee88
Sep 16th, 2004
07:57:09 PM
GEORGE LUCAS RUINED EVERY SINGLE MOVIE EVER MADE, FOREVER!
by episode2sucked
Sep 16th, 2004
08:01:14 PM
May the Star Wars Holiday Special one day become a DVD....
by Iblis_mage
Sep 16th, 2004
08:18:56 PM
Star Wars is for the older geeks. It's so tired for the younger
by Judge Briggs
Sep 16th, 2004
08:31:55 PM
Tad off subject, but...
by tango fett
Sep 16th, 2004
09:38:14 PM
'Ep IV - A New Edit"
by Smurfy McSmurf
Sep 16th, 2004
10:59:20 PM
they are all crap, and we are stuck with them for the rest of ou
by mikep
Sep 16th, 2004
11:08:49 PM
Solrider77...
by Nexus-6
Sep 17th, 2004
01:43:07 AM

by Thing-Fish
Sep 17th, 2004
03:08:34 AM
It's COIF not QUAFF
by grendel824
Sep 17th, 2004
04:18:14 AM
Somebody should do a flawless professional looking/sounding fan
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Sep 17th, 2004
06:35:49 AM
"an awesome way to pass the time until episode III". fucking chr
by Windowlicker74
Sep 17th, 2004
07:23:34 AM
"we're all gonna buy these DVDs" Um...nice try...but no.
by minderbinder
Sep 17th, 2004
08:28:03 AM
Gravano
by hamo455
Sep 17th, 2004
08:32:03 AM
please
by BLWiseass
Sep 17th, 2004
08:37:03 AM
DocPazuzu
by kiddae
Sep 17th, 2004
09:04:36 AM
New Emporor scene
by MoshMasterD
Sep 17th, 2004
09:29:38 AM
But the box is fucking Kool & the Gang
by Spike Fett
Sep 17th, 2004
10:19:48 AM
"WORST COSMIC WARS EVER! I will only see it three more times...t
by Tall_Boy
Sep 17th, 2004
10:42:37 AM
AOTC and TPM have "amazing" special effects? Can I have a hit of
by beamish13
Sep 17th, 2004
12:20:17 PM
"I'm not going to buy them! Take THAT, Lucas!"
by Shawn F.
Sep 17th, 2004
12:37:56 PM
tubby_bitch 2
by DocPazuzu
Sep 17th, 2004
12:49:54 PM
NONE OF THE STAR WARS MOVIES ARE BETTER THAN RAIDERS
by slone13
Sep 17th, 2004
01:00:10 PM
RE: How can Vader not know who Luke is, even though he said "...
by pip1345
Sep 17th, 2004
01:02:13 PM
If the alternative is "you whiny cunts will all buy it, Lucas ow
by minderbinder
Sep 17th, 2004
02:05:06 PM
"also to give just a small bit of reverence to the creator of a
by minderbinder
Sep 17th, 2004
02:51:49 PM
Most of the changes in the new versions of the trilogy are OK wi
by jawaburger
Sep 17th, 2004
03:35:49 PM
orionsangels, blu-ray discs are not backwards compatible
by jawaburger
Sep 17th, 2004
03:38:40 PM
solrider 77, about BR.
by jawaburger
Sep 17th, 2004
03:41:17 PM
Empire Myth
by invaderzim365
Sep 17th, 2004
03:53:21 PM
thanks
by ScaryJim
Sep 17th, 2004
04:03:37 PM
The yub-yub song & the dance number
by Thing-Fish
Sep 17th, 2004
04:11:58 PM
"People like Empire because of the Darth and Luke battle. That's
by Voice O. Reason
Sep 17th, 2004
04:24:58 PM
Actually, I have
by invaderzim365
Sep 17th, 2004
04:34:33 PM
I'm with invaderzim
by Super Person
Sep 17th, 2004
04:51:38 PM
so...where's the best place to get non-bastardized SW DVD's?
by beamish13
Sep 17th, 2004
05:47:34 PM
Funniest Talkback in a Long While
by TheDarkShape
Sep 17th, 2004
06:03:14 PM
beamish
by minderbinder
Sep 17th, 2004
06:33:31 PM
Hey Reno Nevada 2000..........
by Shaner Jedi
Sep 17th, 2004
07:04:46 PM
" People like Empire because of the Darth and Luke battle. That'
by The Killer-Goat
Sep 17th, 2004
07:06:35 PM
The OT SW DVDs are oficially here- Let the whining commenence
by Eye_H8_U
Sep 17th, 2004
07:29:37 PM
you people are fucking pathetic
by I Dunno
Sep 17th, 2004
09:28:20 PM
Anakin's "Force Ghost"
by Crimson King
Sep 17th, 2004
10:50:24 PM
I don't really care either way, but...
by magic_ninja
Sep 17th, 2004
10:50:36 PM
"You don't see me wasting my time on that homosexual wank-fest L
by minderbinder
Sep 17th, 2004
11:12:52 PM
Missing scenes?
by Thing-Fish
Sep 17th, 2004
11:36:48 PM
I will buy this set...
by tango fett
Sep 17th, 2004
11:38:05 PM
...meaning I don't hang out in LOTR TalkBacks spewing the same
by I Dunno
Sep 17th, 2004
11:42:27 PM
re: Missing Scenes?
by cybertrent
Sep 18th, 2004
01:48:32 AM
Old Obi-wan
by ROBE
Sep 18th, 2004
06:41:46 AM
Thanks for the clarification...so complaining only becomes "over
by minderbinder
Sep 18th, 2004
08:08:53 AM
star wars: a new point
by ScaryJim
Sep 18th, 2004
10:37:56 AM
I'M CONFUSED
by DECKERS
Sep 18th, 2004
11:44:13 AM
all these changes...
by Master Shake
Sep 18th, 2004
12:18:41 PM
Thanks, cybertrent!
by Thing-Fish
Sep 18th, 2004
02:12:26 PM
so . . . big gulps, eh?
by jawaburger
Sep 18th, 2004
02:27:52 PM
what about the other necessary changes?
by lynxpro
Sep 18th, 2004
04:52:58 PM
from the NY TIMES 9/16
by m2298
Sep 18th, 2004
10:00:17 PM
sorry, off topic, but I must speak out against the narration in
by jawaburger
Sep 19th, 2004
04:09:20 AM
Sinistar the "son of skywalker" line is still in there.
by Tall_Boy
Sep 19th, 2004
01:38:10 PM
Vader/Anakin didn't "repent" on his death bed...
by ZeroCorpse
Sep 19th, 2004
07:07:03 PM
Quaff--- Not wrong per se.. just misspelled.
by Holly_Wight
Sep 19th, 2004
07:19:31 PM
Gravano
by LordZanthos
Sep 20th, 2004
12:54:44 PM
Glad I ponied up for the *ahem* DVD "backups."
by Gul Shah
Sep 20th, 2004
03:50:13 PM
Response to Solrider77's Tolkein question
by WillowFan2001
Sep 20th, 2004
07:19:07 PM
What an embarrassment
by BarrelRider
Sep 22nd, 2004
07:50:25 AM
Anakin is young because
by Sro100
Sep 25th, 2004
12:07:43 PM

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