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MRBEAKS Possessed By GHOSTS OF MARS!!

In the Mouth of Madness by uber red devil	Aug 10th, 2001 11:01:45 AM
One of the best psychological horror films of all time. I just had to express that.
shit shit shit by Baron Malevolanc	Aug 10th, 2001 11:06:44 AM
Is it me, or does it seem like various members of the AICN staff are trying to talk up this fucking turkey of film, that by nearly universal response is a turd of world class proportions? Hmmmm, when stuff like that happens it makes you think doesn't it? A movie that nearly everyone hates, is being givem a massage by harry and chums! A cynic might say that this would help mister carpenter recoup some money a the box office. BUT NOT ME! I'm sure this film is a little gem, that every one else has failed to spot, and Harry et al. are simply reminding us of that fact.
Thanks MrBeaks by No. 41	Aug 10th, 2001 11:13:28 AM
your review finally made me realize that this movie is basically just "Aliens" filtered through the "The Martian Chronicles." That doesn't mean it's not a decent time.
"I've had a chance to see GHOSTS OF MARS now, but because it was by PoxyVonSinister	Aug 10th, 2001 11:31:50 AM
Hmm, maybe just like the folks who went on the Scooby junket?
Hey, aloneiam, the word is "eunuch" not "unit" by Some Dude	Aug 10th, 2001 11:50:54 AM
Not that I disagree with you otherwise regarding your summations of Raimi and Craven. Also, Carpenter said at the screening that "Ghosts of Mars" was not audience-tested. Hooray!
In Defense Of Sam Raimi by IAmLegolas	Aug 10th, 2001 12:20:10 PM
Uh... Sam Raimi is far from a "enuch" or "unit". Just because he isn't directing Bruce Campbell and including blood/gore/3 Stooges references into all of his movies doesn't mean he sucks. Have you seen "The Gift"?? That's a straight up great great great HORROR movie. Rent it on DVD, turn off the lights and crank up the surround sound. He may of made some "okay" movies, but never a dull moment IMHO (well, except for Love Of The Game). I hope he kicks everyone's arse with Spider-Man.
Jeez, if it weren't for Carpenter getting him out of the Disney by sfreviews.net	Aug 10th, 2001 12:51:44 PM

Bullshit by SCOTT1458	Aug 10th, 2001 01:30:29 PM
we should expect something better from the director who gave us The Thing, Madness, and The Fog. To defend his latest films as some kind of labor of love and to rationalize their suck value is bullshit. John...do it right or don't do it at all.....man I sound like Yoda.
Well written Beaksy. by Uncapie	Aug 10th, 2001 01:36:56 PM
Though I'm not a fan of Carpenter's anymore and won't go see the film, I did enjoy your well written review. How was Johanna Casssidy's ass on screen though? Now, that, I might go see.
Poxy by Anton_Sirius	Aug 10th, 2001 02:43:58 PM
No, nothing like the folks who went on the Scooby junket. You hold a junket months in advance for the express purpose of getting ADVANCE publicity. So barring them from talking about it until its thetrical release would be stupidity on a Schumacherian level. And those that went on it haven't been completely silent on the film, you'll notice; they've just carefully avoided saying anything negative.
great review, Mr Beaks! by fangrrl	Aug 10th, 2001 02:49:34 PM
You are the best writer on Aint It Cool News. I hope you keep it coming. Your DePalma series was first rate and your articles are always wonderful! Thanks!
Ugh, what a terrible trailer. by Fatal Discharge	Aug 10th, 2001 04:19:16 PM
Why are they remaking Pitch Black already? Dangerous criminal who turns into hero...strong female...humans being killed off on another planet - you know Carpenter has run out of ideas when he's ripping off low-budget B-movies for his own films. And instead of cool-looking aliens he has Marilyn Manson wannabes as being supposedly scary?
"Ghosts of Mars" doesn't rip-off "Pitch Black" by Some Dude	Aug 10th, 2001 06:24:12 PM
"Pitch Black" rips-off "Assault on Precinct 13." Surprisingly enough, there are actually a few movies that came out before the late 1990s. "D'oh," is right DohmerSimpson.
I still say Ice Cube is no Ice T by BigTuna	Aug 10th, 2001 07:28:37 PM
DAMN THIS IS MAKING ME THIRSTY!
KNEEL, PUNY HUMANS, BEFORE THE WONDER THAT IS JOHN CARPETNER!!!! by BigDaddyMars77	Aug 10th, 2001 07:32:56 PM
(Just don't bring up Escape from L.A. or Village of the Damned)Other than those two films, every film J.C. has made has been AWESOME. Especially Halloween. That is the greatest horror movie ever made. Better than the Exorcist. Better than Night of the Living Dead.Halloween brought horror home, and the unstoppable terror that was the William Shatner mask wearing Killer Micheal Myers still fills this fanboys heart with dread....When I make my first million i'm going to buy every J.C. movie on DVD just for the commentary...especially his often overlooked "PRINCE OF DARKNESS"..really cool film. Donald Pleasance rocked.
wow, harry didn't rip scooby doo!!!!!!!!! by Murrdoggy	Aug 10th, 2001 10:19:36 PM
Which I think will be a decent flick for the kids (Harry not all films are aimed at 40 year old film geeks) but my reason for posting is, How the hell is Kurt Russell to expensive for a John Carpenter movie?? Did he have a hit movie I did not know about. Hell, when was his last hit movie? That was just a cheap cop out answer that was not followed up on. What we need is more roddy piper and less Kurt and Scooby Bashing. As for the film, I'll wait till its on Starz (because it plays more hit movies then anyone else) or HBO (my favorite channel) anyway, war Blue Jays in 2002. rack me. I'm out.
Kurt's price tag by Magic Milkmaid	Aug 11th, 2001 02:33:03 AM
Kurt Russell got paid $20 million for 'Soldier'. I think that qualifies him for the "fairly expensive" bracket, n'est pas?
An embargo? by ThePantingMenace	Aug 11th, 2001 03:49:51 AM
Excuse me, Moriarty, but since you're not a professional film journalist, how can you be under embargo? And then you sneakily break that embargo in your introduction... very low. Hope the movie's good, though, but I wouldn't bet on it.
GOTTA HAVE MY SAME ABOUT EP2 by silentbobafett	Aug 11th, 2001 08:34:47 AM
I seem to of missed the articles but DAMN THATS A SHIT TITLE! I'm sure at the time Empire and Jedi seemed shit but "return" of the "jedi" sounds cool! Attack of the Clones! Thats sounds like Ed Wood, and loving it! But instead of all moaning about it, what else shoudl it be called? Clone Wars has Wars in the title so doesn't gel. I can't be arsed right now but when it clicks, I'll let you know. I'm sure you all can't wait.
PITCH BLACK WAS FUCKING GREAT! by silentbobafett	Aug 11th, 2001 09:14:16 AM
Precint 13 is cool: I wanted Rasberry Ripple. But I do love some shit going down on another planet and I can't see much wrong with Pitch Black, well filmed, hammy acting with touches of good acting. and Vin. Ghosts does sound VERY similar but I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW that Pitch black to was inspired by many other films, including, I'm sure 13. BUT lets not forget eveything, including Carpenters films are based on other stuff. So lets enjoy em all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rio Bravo by Seward	Aug 11th, 2001 11:18:12 AM
If anyone hasn't seen this, rent it ASAP. It burns down all the modern "high concept" garbage like the Duke with his '92.
Latest issue of MEAN magazine has a great interview with Carpent by Monkey_King	Aug 11th, 2001 05:48:38 PM
that I enjoyed immensely. Yet, Old Monkey still hates the fact that once John gets his hands on a script he totally disassembles it then puts it back together "his way", and the fact that he promised to never "remake" ESCAPE FROM N.Y. for years, yet he did anyway with EFL.A. and is sucked to high heaven where I reside. Old Sun Wu'Kong don't take to kindly to shitty remakes parading as new ones. In case your wondering, the MEAN magazine features Iggy Pop toting a Tommy Gun on the cover.
Carpenter by snakepliskin	Aug 11th, 2001 06:05:16 PM
He is responsible for the id...ok? Along with Assault on Precinct 13,Halloween,Escape from New York,They Live, In the Mouth of Madness,Big Trouble in Little China... Please do not leave out The Thing!!! The Thing was panned by most of the press at the time of it's release...up against E.T., the movie has gone on to legendary status...I will reserve my JUDGEMENT, until I have viewed the film..."The names Pliskin"
The Last Maverick by scrote	Aug 12th, 2001 05:14:36 AM
...the stuff that JC has turned out over the last six or seven years has been dissapointing to say the least and I'm sure there's a whole bunch of reasons you guys here can posit to justify his retirement but it's still important that people like Carpenter stick around, if only to needle the conformist pricks at the major studios. Yeah, I hope Ghosts is his return to form...but I don't care if it doesn't do the biz at the box office, as long as the guy keeps working. There's more chutzpah in one of his movies (aside from maybe Village of The Damned and Escape From LA-though the final epithet from Plissken at the end of that flick was almost worth the price of admission alone)than ten of the cruddy feel-good summer crap movies that're pumped out and shoved down our throats during the summer blockbuster season by these big-ass studios run by accountants who have no sense of the cultural zietgeist. Whew! Had my say...off to watch The Thing again...
The Man! by L.A 2013	Aug 12th, 2001 06:16:27 AM
yep all Carpenter's work stand well above other movies even the dissapoiting ones!! and Hey!! Mr. Carpenter you have fans all around the world!!
a real american filmmaker by Pozer	Aug 12th, 2001 06:14:21 PM
JC made the best movies of the 80's. I feel priveleged to have grown up watching his rugged films. He took action and horror and managed to add real comedy to the mix. Very few filmakers ever accomplish this in a single film, let alone 5 or 6. When the 90's P.C. error hit he stumbled like every true american did. But I think now that schlock has made a comeback we should forgive him for Escape From LA., He had people flying through the air fighting way before it was considered anime trendy like mediocre Crouching Tiger. He knew that a good film requires different elements flowing like a great soup. If I had a 150 million John I'd give it to you, you'd make these pussy filmakers like Michael Bay go back to directing car commercials and show these phonies how to really use that CGI.
I can't wait for Ghosts of Mars! by WesReviews	Aug 13th, 2001 12:41:47 AM
I'm tired of all you so-called "film geeks" turning on heroes like John Carpenter. He is ten times better than any of your current movie director "gods" like Curtis Hanson and Steven Soderberg. That's not to say that I didn't enjoy L.A. Confidential or Traffic, because I highly enjoyed both. But come on! What the hell was Wonder Boys?? What the hell was sex, lies, and videotape (other than a terrible movie that everyone now hails as a "classic" just because it was by a director who eventually did a pretty goood movie...aka: the Manhunter syndrome)? Sure, Carpenter has had a few "turkeys" in his career, but what director hasn't? Why blame Carpenter when most of the faults of his "turkeys" have been due to the studio that was involved (especially in the cases of Village of the Damned and Escape From L.A.)? I'm sure if Hanson, P.T. Anderson, or Soderberg had the same type of studio interference and hurdles to jump, they'd turn out a few "turkeys" every once in a while too. At least Carpenter is staying true to his roots and not trying to be someone he's not. Craven and Raimi have indeed lost their creative nutsacks. While For Love of the Game, The Gift, and Music of the Heart were decent movies, ANY director in Hollywood could've directed them and they would've turned out very similar, if not better. So, give Carpenter a break or stop calling yourselves film geeks.
Puzzled? by Scaught	Aug 13th, 2001 07:25:15 AM
Why is there so much hoopla over John Carpenter? Sure, Halloween was revolutionary. But C'Mon, it is not involved with the most respected of genres. I personally could care less about slasher films. What else has he done? Besides Big Trouble in Little China (amusing at best), his work is down right embarassing. How can people consider themselves fans of a technically inept director.
Scaught - Caught by ColdSun	Aug 13th, 2001 07:45:49 AM
It doesn't sound like you have ever watched a JC movie to me. Ever heard of The Thing? Prince of Darkness? The Fog? If you had ever watched a JC movie you would know damn well his movies aren't "slasher flicks." What kind of moron makes posts like this without facts to back them up? As for JC, I have enjoyed almost all of his movies - and I have seen them all. Didn't care for Vampires but I appreciated what he was trying to do. Escape from LA was a disappointment... Does anyone else want to see a sequel to The Thing? Just wondering....
Escape from NY-one of the best action Halloween- on of the best by sundown	Aug 13th, 2001 08:14:05 AM
Not to mention Mouth of Madness...glad to see it getting props. This guy rocks and I hope this is a return to form or the beginning of one. I really don;t want any sequels unless he is roaring again and gets another hit. Then I would love him to do sequels to them all! (LA DID NOT happen!) but how cool would a Big Trouble 2 be with Jackie Chan and Jack Burton kicking ass with Jet Li as the baddie?
To Some Dude... by Fatal Discharge	Aug 13th, 2001 12:38:01 PM
...I never said Pitch Black was original - it obviously copies stuff from other films including Aliens. And I do have Assault On Precinct 13 on video (it's a great film) so don't be so quick to assume people don't know more about films than you do. Precinct 13 also ripped off another film - Rio Bravo. I don't really care if films borrow from others as long as they're good films in their own right. Ghosts Of Mars just looks like a bad film, that's all. The last Carpenter film I thought was successful was In The Mouth Of Madness (95) and before that Big Trouble In Little China (86). Two good films in the last 15 years is NOT a good record.
After seeing the trailer last night... by Huneybee	Aug 13th, 2001 03:36:09 PM
I understand why someone compared it to Pitch Black. It looked like PB w/zombies instead of critters. Before everyone starts raising cain at me, I am putting down neither the movie nor John Carpenter. I am merely giving my opinion.____Bee
The official website - huh? by silly_willy55	Aug 14th, 2001 09:40:01 AM
Does anyone get the website for this movie? I am not sure I get the closing doors - is that supposed to be a train or space tunnel or something? If you have any ideas let me know. It is really bothering me. http://www.spe.sony.com/movies /ghostsofmars/

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