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CROM!!! The future of another CONAN film looks cloudy.

FFFFFFFuuuuuuuuuuu************** KKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!! by Wheel99	Jan 5th, 2001 04:05:59 PM
If there is an Arnold sequil needed its this one. Let's hope stupidity doesn't prevent a kick ass Conan sequil.
Am I fi..... by Lorgalis	Jan 5th, 2001 04:10:20 PM
Yes can I finaly join the ranks of the sad with an "I'm first" Anyway just thought I'd add that this legal stuff sucks! The 1st film was cool and a sequel of that standard would be good, but let us not forget the second film was pants!
I smell another Spider-Man type mess here... by Blue Devil	Jan 5th, 2001 04:22:10 PM
It took Titanic to bring Spider-Man out of it's legal hassles. What's it going to take to bring Conan back to theaters- a huge Schwarzenegger hit? Not likely.
This is OKAY though. We don't need the awesome-ness of CONAN THE by IAmLegolas	Jan 5th, 2001 04:28:41 PM
Arnold is NOT THE SAME as he was back then, in physical build and or frame of mine. This movie would of ended up messed up because Arnold is OLD now and because of his huge ego, he would be less likely to just let the director direct him and not try to think of things himself. I would have to watch my CONAN THE BARBARIAN Special Edition DVD for a straight month to make me feel better. "Ahnd if you bahlieve thaht, you'll bahlieve thaht Richahrd Simmons hahs little juniors running ahround" - Arnold S. on the commentary track after trying to imitate John Boorman, director
But.... when LOTR kicks ass at the box office, this movie will b by IAmLegolas	Jan 5th, 2001 04:37:57 PM
Long live GOOD medieval (historical/fantasy) movies!
IamLegolas might be right... by Dave_F	Jan 5th, 2001 05:03:40 PM
In my mind's eye, I can picture an ultimate kick-ass third Conan movie, but what are the odds of it coming to pass almost 20 years after the original? I can't help but consider how poorly that kind of delay played out for George Lucas. For the record, though, the original's already been tarnished with a little sequel called "Conan the Destroyer". I don't think it's as godawful as some, though. It's not the epic the first one was by any means, but still a fun, throwaway Conan adventure. Favorite scenes include: the opening Conan-versus-ten-guys fight scene, Mako's all-grunting face-off with the rival wizard, and of course, the scene where Arnie and a rival swordsman exchange cool sword poses in mid-battle. Fun movie with a decent Poledouris score.
Say... wasn't RED SONJA an unofficial 3rd part to CONAN? by IAmLegolas	Jan 5th, 2001 05:11:10 PM
But the names were changed because of copyright issues or something like that?. Didn't it take place in the same place and all? Please correct me if I am wrong, I can't remember...
See, when X-Men conquered the box office - all of a sudden EVERY by Smugbug	Jan 5th, 2001 05:25:12 PM
Yes, Iamlegolas is correct. Thats pretty much the history of H-town. The Matrix was a bonanza and now everyone wants to do "Matrix-style" fight scenes. X-Men showed the return of the comic book on screen. And now Conan may look hazy - but the first wasn't all that bad. Hell, it was just on cable and I watched it all after not seeing it in years! And its pretty decent. The Conan story definitely got legs and could do very well if handled by the right creative forces.
It'll happen. by Pupkin	Jan 5th, 2001 05:26:15 PM
If there is a demand these legal issues always sort themselves out over the course of time, Bond was in the same position for a while, likewise Spiderman and others. Even the legal hell surrounding the non-U.S. rights to the L.O.T.R cartoon are supposed to be sorted and its gonna be rereleased. The only real problem is if it takes 4-5 years, then 1-2 years in pre-production, the Oak will be 60 when filming comes around. Conan the pensioner I can't see.
Speak not of "Red Sonja"! It's the poor man's "Conan the Destroy by Dave_F	Jan 5th, 2001 05:35:06 PM
In the same way that the awfulness of "Phantom Menace" gave me renewed appreciation for "Return of the Jedi", even friggin' Ewoks, so too does "Red Sonja" remind us that "Conan the Destroyer" ain't all THAT bad. I remember a scene where Arnie is practicing sword-fighting with Brigitte Nielson, and he has to fight painfully slowly, to make it clear to the audience that they're on...shudder...equal terms. Horribly emasculating for the mighty swordsman, sorta like David Carradine's Tai-Chi-speed martial arts on "Kung-Fu: The Legend Continues".
Does Stan Lee know how to fuck up his licensing deals or what? by Batutta	Jan 5th, 2001 05:45:48 PM
Marvel's Spider-Man fiasco prevented James Cameron from helming a potential masterpiece, and now the Wachowski's are gonna get snowed!
They really need to start over with Conan. by Sith Lord Jesus	Jan 5th, 2001 06:55:06 PM
Just pick up where the first one left off, pretend that CONAN THE DESTROYER doesn't exist and do the second movie over again--this time with Russell Crowe in the lead role and an ENTIRELY NEW SCRIPT. Go for epic scale with a score to match. Same with RED SONJA--give Rene
Can we leave Conan alone please? by vroom socko	Jan 5th, 2001 07:22:25 PM
The first film deserved to be the only film. Destroyer sucked, Red Sonya sucked, and any new film will suck. If Stan Lee wants to do a favor to Conan fans he should get Marvel to publish a second volume of The Essential Conan. Barry Windsor-Smith, man, he do Conan right!
Of Course Conan's Future Is Cloudy. The Future Is Held By The Go by Buzz Maverik	Jan 5th, 2001 09:10:28 PM
However, I'm sure that the Wachowski's MATRIX clout and Milius' profiecency with firearms can settle any problems here.
So the STM and the SLM buy CPI and SEC is PO'ed at the MO? by Horseflesh	Jan 5th, 2001 09:20:55 PM
It was my understanding that there would be no heavy thinking involved at the site.
Anyone Else Hear This One? by Shrike	Jan 5th, 2001 10:59:01 PM
Just read tonight in Cinescape magazine that wrestling's "The Rock" will be playing Conan in the newest movie. Say it ain't so! I pray this is a rumor as I had heard that the new film would focus on Conan the King hinting that an older Arnold would be playing Conan yet again...Anyone else hear anything about this?
cameron spider-man--masterpiece? by Someguywithaname	Jan 7th, 2001 07:58:27 AM
I doubt it. We have him to thank for the idiot webshooter debacle. JC has too big an ego to allow a legendary character to just be and let him take center stage. He has to put his dirty fingerprints all over it...sort of like Tim Burton. As for Raimi--what a dumbass. When will these hollywood hacks learn that the public would go see Spider-man even if it was directed by a janitor...hmm, judging from the quality of genre flicks lately, maybe they already are. :D
Conan the King by MolaRam	Jan 7th, 2001 11:24:42 AM
We were promised at the beginning of the last two adventures that Conan's tale of becoming king would be told. It seems that rather than a new telling of the doubtfully-to-be-improved-on Conan the Barbarian, producers should make good on this promise of old, and give us a nice bookend to this saga. Conan was much older when we see him seated on his throne and Arnold's age is perfect for a believable tale of the barbarian's later years.
hmm by da_guvna	Jan 7th, 2001 12:25:18 PM
forget conan make a film about 'slaine' from 2000AD, hes very similar to conan but much cooler as he can warp in to this fucked up lookin demon in the middle of battle,and that axe he carries 'brain biter'....that rules plus hsi world had dragons in yah!
OK, try this: franka potente IS red sonja by tommy5tone	Jan 7th, 2001 07:16:34 PM
'run sonja run'! can you dig it? put her up against milla jovovich as the villain! creepy rufus sewell or the uber-camp bruce payne as some evil sorcerer dude! those nordic dudes from 'the 13th warrior' as the sorcerer's muscle! russell wong as the sword-slinging hero! arnold pays the mortgage with a cameo as king conan! paul verhoeven directs! you watch!
Never been a conan flic by ackman	Jan 7th, 2001 10:36:39 PM
Sorry to bust all your balls but there has never been a real Conan movie made. That mindless pit gladiator who was let go, let go I ad again for emphasis, by his master, so he could foolishly stumble his way through a bunch of cheesy missions against a fat old bad guy who headed an ancient flower-child cult, was no Conan movie. Read the original stories by Howard, and it becomes clear that Hollywood hasn't a clue on Conan.
The new Macho by Sepulchrave	Jan 8th, 2001 05:57:12 AM
Russell Crowe would be mad to do another
Sepulchrave your comment makes no sense by Mr_ant	Jan 8th, 2001 09:49:24 AM
"Conan has always lacked these qualities which should be part of any film which really wants to resonate with the majority of mature balanced men in the audience."--------->so should rapists and murders ALWAYS be portrayed with a feminine side in order to "resonate with the majority"? - hes a fucking barbarian - he kills people for a fucking living for fucks sake, why should he be portrayed as anything other than that? it wouldnt be true to the character. Remember the scene where the thief says something along the lines of "I cry for him, because he is a barbarian - does not cry"
I don't care if they take another shot at the franchise. by superninja	Jan 8th, 2001 12:30:41 PM
And whoever dissed that Conan TV show -- Ralph Moeller was great in it. It's not the actor's fault that the writers were absolutely terrible (we're talking Nightman bad, here). But after reading the collected Conan in comic form, I don't think the physical appearance needs to be on par with a body builder -- Conan was a little more lithe in many of his early adventures. Depends on the source material, I guess. He certainly wasn't the slow dolt that the first film made him out to be, although I do like it and Arnold, for sheer camp factor alone. You can never have too much barbarian camp! Could you imagine big-budget Conan in a true fantasy setting? It sort of reminds me a little of Flash Gordon when I think about it, only set in the Ice Age.
Cardiovascular Conan by	Jan 8th, 2001 03:51:42 PM
Nic Cage as Conan, with Tim Burton directing.
Not Crowe, st._buggering? Then how about. . . by Sith Lord Jesus	Jan 8th, 2001 07:41:49 PM
. . .THE ROCK?!?! Or better yet, TRIPPLE-FUCKIN'-H!!!! WHOOOO-HOOOOOO!! Just kidding. I mentioned Crowe 'cause he can actually ACT, which is important if a new Conan film is to be done properly. And I agree that the suckitude of DESTROYER doesn't tarnish the origional, but I'd still like to see it redone properly. Those are the only kind of remakes that should be made--potentially good ideas that cratered on execution. "Once more unto the breach dear friends. . ."
Conan Redux by	Jan 8th, 2001 10:33:00 PM
Philip Seymour Hoffman as Conan, with Paul Thomas Anderson directing.
Wrestlers? Hmmm. by Sith Lord Jesus	Jan 8th, 2001 11:55:08 PM
After I suggested the Rock in jest, I thought about it and you're right--he's not gonna have too much dialog anyway and the job really DOESN'T require Oscar-level acting. If he can be the Scorpion King in MUMMY part deux, he can do this. The main thing is the script. It has to be GOOD, and it has to be EPIC; that's where DESTROYER really fell down. I may read some of the Conan books later this year, and after LOTR breaks in December perhaps I'll put together a scriptiment.

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