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Who to play Bruce Wayne in BATMAN BEYOND Feature'

Welly, welly, well... by Tids	Sep 29th, 2000 06:53:59 AM
Apart from this being one of the most spurious titbits I've ever heard, allow me to retort... Way back when, when the idea of "The Dark Knight Returns" was being banded about as a possible feature, I posted then that Clint would be the man for the job and even though the Bruce in Batman Beyond is older still than the "Dark Knight..." Clint still gets my vote. It's just that Newman doesn't have the frame to look like he was Batman. This is not however a slur on his ability to pull it off, he's a great actor, but still, I'd rather see Clint up there. Just my two cents. Also, how far in talkback before the subject of who's to play the New Batman comes up... damn that would be here then!?!?!?
Batman is no cowboy... by Corpsegrinder	Sep 29th, 2000 07:10:03 AM
Yup, Clint Eastwood is old, but he isn't Bruce Wayne to me. Clint is a cowboy to me, and I think that there is someone better for the job. Eastwood just isn't built right. Bruce Wayne is big. Clint Eastwood is not built, he doesn't look like anyone that ever could've been Batman. Think...Space Cowboys,...nope, Clint isn't the right guy. I'm not saying I know all and that I even know who I would want to be Bruce Wayne, but I definately know who I wouldn't want. And I'm sick of all of this "Yeah, I was in the deli and blah blah blah, it's crap. Complete crap. Harry shouldn't have even posted it, I'm curious, If I claimed to have inside info on some crap invoving a big movie, do you think it would get posted? Because I was at the Cinnamonster at my local mall, and guess who was in line in front of me,...Don Knotts...
Sean Connery by Razorfist	Sep 29th, 2000 07:16:49 AM
Only he can be Bruce Wayne in Batman Beyond
No,no,no... by Spatzman	Sep 29th, 2000 07:33:33 AM
Eastwood is all wrong for the role. He doesn't look like he was Batman, he just looks like he used to be mean (Unforgiven anyone). Newman on the other hand has an intelligence in his eyes that shows he could have been Batman, and in his youth he definitely had the build. And even if this rumour IS bullshit, don't critisize Harry for posting it - jeez, most of the time he gets crap for NOT posting the innocuous stuff.
why is it ... by gigolo aunt	Sep 29th, 2000 07:43:30 AM
every time someone old needs to be cast some fool mentions Sean Connery.Why exactly would he be good for this role?I don't remember Bruce Wayne as an alcoholic scotsman (no offense to alcoholic scotsmen).
Sean Connery my ear! by Goatbag	Sep 29th, 2000 07:54:52 AM
Sean Connery is a scot. Batman is not. Who should play Grampa Bats? Bruce Campbell. Why? You know why.
Eastwood's the only choice by Ethan Hunt	Sep 29th, 2000 08:01:20 AM
And you people know it. Thanks to those helping out with the Batman info. You know who you are.
Know who'd be perfect?!? by doctor_strange	Sep 29th, 2000 08:15:16 AM
Scarifyingly perfect choice for the elder Bruce Wayne of Batman Beyond... Charleton Heston! Yes, I utterly detest the man's politics too, but he's spent his whole career playing bigger-than-life heroic figures, and he's got the acting chops as well as the physical height, presence and charisma for the role. I can EASILY imagine him as the angry and bitter (his initially misanthropic Planet of the Apes character was almost Brucelike!), physically exhausted and somewhat frail (but still totally kickass on occasion) old hero whose time is past. The incredible wisdom and authority in his voice alone, for all those scenes in the Batmobile when he's on the radio to Terry, makes him a great choice all by itself. Apart from having Kevin Conroy dub the lines for some other old geezer who just looks the part, Heston is the perfect choice!
ding ding ding..we have a winner! by gigolo aunt	Sep 29th, 2000 08:29:46 AM
Good call Doc Strange.I knew that there was someone perfect for this role and you found him.Especially if they do it like the show and leave him obscured by shadows a lot.And if he says "From my cold,dead hands"
Heston by ddecatur	Sep 29th, 2000 08:33:34 AM
I always thought that Frank Miller's Batman in The Dark Knight Returns looked like a lot like Heston. Too bad that movie couldn't have been made in the 1980s. I think he'd be perfect as Bruce Wayne in Batman Beyond.
Bea Arthur. by Buzz Maverik	Sep 29th, 2000 08:38:24 AM
True, she'd be better for THE DARK KNIGHT than BATMAN BEYOND. Michael Jackson for Clayface.
Paul Newman - midget? by Packy McCracken	Sep 29th, 2000 08:43:02 AM
Actually, if you look at the first few pages of The Dark Knight Returns - before Bruce Wayne shaves his moustache - he looks a lot like Paul Newman in a couple of panels. Go check and see....i'll wait. I'm a big fan, but Paul Newman is about 5'8. Not exactly an imposing figure. Charleton Heston (in his prime anyway) was 6'6". That's more like it, but I've never seen him as Batman. Too elderly and too toupeed. (who here believes Batman is vain?) I've always wanted Eastwood for the role. Why? He's big (6'4"- a giant in hollywood). He's tough. He is an icon. and he is a minimalist, which is how batman should be played. Not nuts, not heroic. Quiet and driven.
Charlton heston... by Spatzman	Sep 29th, 2000 08:47:13 AM
..shouldn't be considered for the role out of principle. Batman is supposed to fight crime. You can't have someone that facilitates crime playing the part. By the way, what happened to the Pearl Harbour post?
Clint Wouldn't Do It by Lonesome Doug	Sep 29th, 2000 08:48:42 AM
I don't think that Clint Eastwood would want to do a Batman movie. I've thought a while about who else would be good as an old Bruce Wayne, and I've come up with a not-so-obvious actor. How about Brian Dennehy? I know he's not a big star, and he is sort of fat, but I think he looks like an old guy who could still kick your ass. He's 60, so he could pass as 65 or 70 with make-up.
Jeez, Harry, slim pickins today, eh? by Lance Rock	Sep 29th, 2000 08:53:39 AM
"So yeah, this probably isn't true, but this guy I've never heard of tells me he overhears a guy in front of him tell a story to another guy..." YAWN.
When Clint Was Approached For The Role... by Buzz Maverik	Sep 29th, 2000 08:58:03 AM
"Batman? The guy with the cape and the Batmobile, right? You want me to put on tights..." "No, no, Clint, it's not tights anymore..." "I know what it is. It's that damned rubber suit with the nipples and the built in ass muscles. I took the kids to see Batman and ... what's the punk's name?" "Robin, but he's not in..." "Yeah. Robin. You know, when I was a kid, in the Batman comics, Robin was a kid. Why'd they have a guy about 25 playing Robin? God, I feel sorry for the young guys out there these days. When I was 25 I was playing Rowdy Yates on Rawhide and this O'Donnell kid has to be Robin." "You wouldn't have a Robin..." "I don't work with a partner." "Actually, you'd be the mentor to this younger Batman--" "You said I was going to be Batman, which I'm not." "You're going to be Bruce Wayne--" "Bruce Wayne is Batman." "He's all gimped up. It's in the future--" "I don't do sci-fi. I started out doing sci-fi. I was the pilot in Tarantula." "You were great in Tarantula, Clint--" "Unglue your lips from my ass. Is Nicholson going to be in this?" "Nicholson?" "Yeah. He was in the first one. Played the Clown." "No. It's in the future---" "I don't do sci-fi. You get Nicholson, I might do it. You know, he and I were going to work together in this weird horror western thing that the weird kid who did the first Batman was going to do. We were cowboys who had to kill a monster living in the basement of these two sisters' house. Based on some book. We backed out because me and Jack, we--" "Don't do sci-fi?" "Don't be a smart ass. Say, why don't you get Jack to play the old Batman. Jack's old. He looks like an older version of that guy who played the first Batman. You know, he just got dumped by that young skinny girl who used to be good lookin' that he was dating. He might do sci-fi."
What Paul Newman Actually Said To Nasty In That Deli... by Buzz Maverik	Sep 29th, 2000 09:11:00 AM
"I'll have the corn beef on rye with Russian dressing on the side, please."
Only if Freddie Prince Jr. can be Terry! by Deno	Sep 29th, 2000 09:18:59 AM
...NOT!
I heard... by sundown	Sep 29th, 2000 09:25:08 AM
That pacey from Dawsons Creek is gonna be the Bat and the old Wayne is really JACK LEMMON which adds an incredible element if you think of Grumpy Old Men its too bad Walter Matthau can't play an old Alfred. I hear Alan Smithee is gonna direct!
Or how about Bob Kane's choice? by Mr. Impossible	Sep 29th, 2000 09:35:51 AM
When asked once who he envisioned as Bruce Wayne, he said a "young Robert Wagner." Well, extrapolate! Then an "old Robert Wagner" would be perfect for the role! :D
Gregory Peck? by Wicker Man	Sep 29th, 2000 09:38:40 AM
6'3" tall, old, imdb says he's still alive. He's got my vote (if I had one!)
Bruce Wayne should be played by... by chrisd	Sep 29th, 2000 09:46:08 AM
Brian Dennehy. I can't see anyone else, even Eastwood and definitely not Newman, who can do 'Batman eyes' like Dennehy. Also, Stockard Channing as Barbara Gordon.
Charlton Heston by X-Girls	Sep 29th, 2000 09:51:44 AM
Wouldn't he have to bulk up about 50 pounds of muscle? Search for unknowns is what I say.
Heck, just put Conroy in old person makeup... by cuznjean	Sep 29th, 2000 10:08:49 AM
and let him do it. If nothing else, at least the voice would be right ...
A few quick reactions... by Zubalove	Sep 29th, 2000 10:09:23 AM
Okay FIRST, Sean Connery is Welsh, you ninnys. Second, Eastwood just wouldn't be right for Bats but he would rock as the older Green Arrow if they do Dark Knight. Charlton Heston would have to defeat his WINE ADDICTION before he defeated the Joker and I don't think he could embody Bat's strong hatred of guns. I think you know why. I'll tell ya why.... because he's a gun toting lapdog of the gun makers and he would never be able to do this movie believably because of that. Paul Newman is a good choice and I'm more than a little excited about it. Now if they would only get someone with talent to play McGuinnis. Not Keanu but someone who HAS SOME FUCKING RANGE! All right, I'm through with ya. Zubalove OUT.
Peck, Heston, et.al. by doctor_strange	Sep 29th, 2000 10:32:52 AM
Gregory Peck would also be an exceptional choice for old Bruce, but I seem to recall that I've read recently that his health is kind of fragile (though he looked fine in the last thing I saw him in: as Father Mapple in the Partrick Stewart Moby Dick a year or two ago.) Another fantastic choice also in the same category: Kirk Douglas. I still think that Chuck Heston would be a primo choice. As I said before, I abhor his politics, but he's an ACTOR - he isn't playing himself. He might surprise you by rising to the challenge of playing the violently anti-gun Bruce and actually bringing something special to it precisely BECAUSE it's the opposite of his own well-known viewpoint. He's a much better actor than most people think...
Chuck Heston is the perfect choice! by Dark Knight Lite	Sep 29th, 2000 10:42:54 AM
That being said, "Spazman" is an idiot for saying that the NRA promotes crime. Quit buying the disinformation handed out in the press and look at what the NRA stands for. New gun laws are only going to take the firearms from law abiding citizens, what we need is ENFORCEMENT of existing laws. A gun saved my a member of my family's life, and proper parenting taught me right from wrong. We don't need the government taking guns away from the common populace. Maybe if some of you SHEEP out there had a gun and knew how to use it, there would be less crime. Try that thought on for size, you simpering morons.
Zubalove you spaz by Mockingbird Girl	Sep 29th, 2000 10:54:16 AM
Sean Connery is from Edinburgh. That's in Scotland. Scotland and Wales are NOT interchangeable.
Guns, guns everywhere! by Boogabear	Sep 29th, 2000 11:15:14 AM
If guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will accidentally shoot their children.
I'm scared to agree with a guy called Harry's_Goiter, but... by Dave_F	Sep 29th, 2000 11:15:49 AM
...Tom Skerritt really does seem like a good idea. Solid character actor and I've seen him do "intense" before (I'm thinking of a particular episode of the fine show, "Picket Fences"). The fact that he's not a "big name" actor would work in favor of the character's believability. Plus, Skerritt's a little younger than Newman, Eastwood, and Heston...so if the flick's a success and a sequel gets made, less danger of him croaking during the shoot. See how I plan ahead?
Casting Couch by Lemmy Caution	Sep 29th, 2000 11:20:30 AM
If it isn't obvious already, it will be after I make my suggestion. You saw the way he handled an unruly John Deere lawnmower in "The Straight Story", you loved him in all those beer commercials in the '80s. Richard freakin' Farnsworth. Make the franchise accessible to members of the American Association of Retired Persons. Better yet, cast Andy Griffith in the role, and he can trade on the senior-citizen cachet he earned in "Matlock" and "Salvage II".
ahhhhuuuuuubbbulllllllllllssssss ssssshhhhhhhhhiiit by inthetrenches	Sep 29th, 2000 11:28:34 AM

Right on Dark Knight Lite! by SithScorp	Sep 29th, 2000 11:40:34 AM
I am sooooo tired of NRA bashing, and along with it, one of our most beloved American actors. Chuck Heston is one of our (America's) greatest acting legends. The man is not perfect, but who is. Anyone that has doubts about his ability to pull off the "bad-ass" roles at his current age should pull out "True Lies". Though he wasn't in too many scenes, he OWNED the screen when he was on it. Pretty big friggin statement, considering the ARNOLD was in those same scenes. So get off of your NRA paranoia and give the man some props. I also like the Adam West suggestion, but I just do not think I could buy him as being a bitter Bruce Wayne. "Terry, don't hit that man. He has glasses on, chum." If he could only be believably angry... In parting, here is a thought for you "anti-gun" folks... Throughout history, politicians, aristocrats, and "royalty" have all preferred to have their peasants UNARMED. Also, if you make firearms illegal, only the criminals will have them. Narcotics are illegal, and criminals still get their hands on them...Just a thought. SithScorp out...
I can Back up Nasty by CptnChaos	Sep 29th, 2000 11:40:55 AM
OK... Nasty IS NOT lying about seeing Paul Newman in Westport CT. My mom used to work in the deli at that supermarket and used to wait on Paul Newman all the time. I know I know... I didnt believe it either until I went to visit her and saw the guy myself! So I cant verify if Mr Newman is or IS not in the running for the Batman movie... but I can verify that He does live in the Westport/Bridgeport CT area and does his own shopping. So this Could all be true!
Unknowns by Manos	Sep 29th, 2000 11:41:59 AM
Frankly I'm sick of the 'stars' strapping on the tights and playing super heros. (Yeah, I know that in Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne doesn't do the bat thing anymore.) Thinks about the original Star Wars. Nobody knew Hamil or Ford or even Fischer. The only really known actors were in the supporting cast. Producers, hold a talent search, hold auditions - find the RIGHT man for Bruce Wayne, not the STAR MAN (Ugh, did I write that?)
Anyone who bitches about this is insane. by superninja	Sep 29th, 2000 11:43:09 AM
Paul Newman -- it just doesn't get any better. He's got the chops for sure, he's got the looks of an aged playboy, and he's got the feel of a man who's maybe worn those kind of shoes -- history! If they get him for this film, it will guarantee (well, okay, NEARLY) that I'll buy a ticket on opening night. I'm not one for blanket generalizations, heheh, but you KNOW I'm right!
Go haf sexth wiffth ya Batgril! by hankthedwarf	Sep 29th, 2000 11:44:55 AM
Hey, it's lunch time and the beer signel's up the in sky! I'm HANK and Im a dwarf not a fucking midget! Idiot! You should make me Batman.I can be in a better moovie Batman Beneeth! Ha Ha ! I would drive around in the batbumpercar and fuckin fuckin run into shit and stuff!!! I woulndnt be the Dark Knight, Id bee the DIck NIght, cuz I would go around an bang the whores that walk around at night and not pay them!! Ha ha! Take from the bitch, and give it to the whore!! Im fuckn drunk bastards!! You could have one millyon year old Jackie the Joke as Alfred and he an I can drink from my exqizet liqour cabnet and then bang the bitches that I pick up! Liquor and lick er! HA HAHa Of course, Beetletooth could be the Joker!! I wouldnt even need to drop him into acid. Hes probably arleady on it! HA Look at those teeth of his he is a fucken shrunk head broke ass midget with fucked up teeth. Why would he need makeup? I could save the preduction two dollars, which is 1.95 more than Beetlepoof would get! HA ha ha! He and I could fight at the end in a beer factory and he could get high bitched i mean pitched eric to be his goon who wants to fuck him! He would have high pitched eric jump on me a knock me into a vat of Budwiser--"Ha ha Beetletooth fuck you up!" he would say! then they would shit their pants as I drink the whole fuckin vat and let out a huge burp that would knock them off the catwalk, Beetlebitch first. He would break his serious ly fucked up teeth and then look up only to see high pitched eric fall on him, naked with a clown mask and a tiny hardon. Then I would use my flying superpowers to get out of the vat and then kick the shit out of there unconcous bodies and then I would piss all that beer out on them. THE END.
The perfect choice & why. PLEASE READ by Nymbus7	Sep 29th, 2000 11:54:10 AM
When I first read this article I was all set to post how great Gregory Peck would be for this but I see Wicker Man beat me to it. ;-P That's cool though, I can still post WHY he'd be perfect. 1: Alex Ross modeled his version of Batman in Kingdom Come after peck. 2: I have a friend who freelances for DC comics & he showed me that if you put a piece of tracing paper over a picture of Gregory Peck's face, you can draw on Batman's mask without changing ANYTHING! Every angle on his face... The cheekbones, the jaw, forehead, etc... It's all angled EXACTLY like batman's mask right down to the sharp eyebrows! I know this post will probably be ignored while people still rant & rave about who they think should play him..... But if you don't believe me read Kingdom Come or try the "tracing paper" test (it also works with Bruce Campbell as Green Lantern). Gregory Peck IS the right man for the job if he's still healty enough. If not then it's all up in the air.
Perfect choice & why part 2.... by Nymbus7	Sep 29th, 2000 11:59:15 AM
Forgot to mention (though i probably shouldn't have to) I DO realize that Bruce Wayne doesn't actually wear the costume in BB. I was just saying you could look at his face and still SEE Batman.
How about......James Garner ? by age	Sep 29th, 2000 12:01:27 PM
Dunno? ...just a suggestion. He seems to have "that look". Oh! Sean Connery is NOT Welsh. Scottsman all the way. YOU NINNY! ;)
I stand corrected. I am admittedly a NINNY. by Zubalove	Sep 29th, 2000 12:19:04 PM
My sincerest apologies concerning the birthplace of one Sean Connery. I have no excuse for it and I will not post fraudualently again. As for those who have issues with my NRA opinions I ask, what part of "Well Regulated Militia" do you not understand? Cold dead hands, indeed. I, nor anyone else, honestly don't think it will come to that. I just want to stop kids from killing kids. That is the important thing. Most humbly, Zubalove OUT.
Heston all the way! by BurninBullwinkle	Sep 29th, 2000 12:22:20 PM
First the guy is an astounding actor. No questions there. He could make Bruce bitter, menacing and with a "seen it all" twinkle when dealing with Terry's rookie mumblings. And oh yeah, all you NRA bashers? Maybe if your home is robbed and you are violated you will come to realize the importance of self protection. Do I think guns are dangerous? Yes. Should everyone own them? Nope. But responsible people should certainly be allowed to protect their families. OK, I'm done with my political rumbling. I hate talking about it on a movie site. I just felt the need to protect my point of view. So... anyone else ecstatic WB seems to be pulling their collective heads out on BB and B:Y1?
Anthony Hopkins, dammit! by Tad Ghostal	Sep 29th, 2000 12:25:13 PM
That's it.
CHARLES BRONSON-- you punks! by Randfilms	Sep 29th, 2000 12:26:43 PM
Charles Bronson man! He'd be cool as hell! I like the idea of Clint Eastwood too. But Charleton Heston doesn't sound too appealing. Charles Bronson is a crotchety old man that still could kick some ass with that cane and I'll bet he even has a mean-ass great dane to boot.
BB: RtJ Postponed?!!! by cuznjean	Sep 29th, 2000 12:34:40 PM
Dammit, look what I just got in my e-mail! "Greetings from Amazon.com. We have recently learned that the release date for 'Batman Beyond - Return of the Joker' has been postponed until December, 2000. We are very sorry for the disappointment. We have left your order in place ..." Now, what the hell? Why the hell? They've been touting a Halloween release all year, what went wrong? Anybody know?
I have a few ideas by Kahuna	Sep 29th, 2000 12:36:28 PM
AS TRANSLATED FROM ANCIENT HAWAIIAN BY AN ENCHANTED TIKI TOTEM: * Ok.. Now I would prefer them getting some "unknown" to play the Terry and Bruce roles (ala Hugh Jackman for Wolverine). Sadly I really doubt that it'll happen so here is a few of my ideas for the elderly Wayne... Christopher Reeves-This isn't a joke.. think about it A crippled Batman trying to make things right by letting his legend live on, but still slightly hating it cuase he can never do it again. Adam West-Comon people.. Why not have a little nostalgia in there? He can play it dark!! Just have to watch him and keep him from trying on those tights!! PLEASE!!! Gregory Peck- He's Old.. AND HE CAN Supply his own cane!! Well.. Thats all I have for know. Love to hear what everyone thinks of the ideas! Aloha!!! *
Batman Casting call by Phillip Jeffries	Sep 29th, 2000 12:43:14 PM
I got it! I got it!!! First of all Henry Silva would make a great geriatric Batman villain. And I've been thinking hard about all these old goats who could pull this off. Unfortunately they are all short. Dennis Hopper? Robert Loggia? How 'bout Robert Duvall or hey! MAX VON SYDOW! Not many bona-fide movie stars here though... Eastwood would be great. He is NOT a cowboy. Too bad Steve McQueen is dead. He would have been PERFECT and if he was alive he'd be the perfect age 65-70.
Not Charles Bronson..... by crimsonrage	Sep 29th, 2000 12:50:10 PM
.......But a great Charlie Bronson film is "Death Wish 3". It is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. It's also the most hilarious movie I've ever seen. Go rent a copy of it tonight.
Harry's Head & Paul Newman by awkwardboyhero	Sep 29th, 2000 12:59:51 PM
Is that supposed to be Kurt Russell and Harry as the Thing today? I can't make head or tail out of it. Anyway -- just as (if not more) important than envisioning an elder actor (such as Paul Newman) as a younger Batman, is envisioning him as a younger Bruce Wayne. I can see the young Paul Newman seducing young women on chaise lounges, drinking champagne, staring, tortured at the portrait of his parents, etc. Thus, I can see Paul Newman tossing around some young punk, growling his lines, staring embittered at past memories, etc. Roger Ebert was right when he said that the movie-Batman (with the suit on) is just a chin.
How 'bout..... by BLATZMAN	Sep 29th, 2000 01:06:41 PM
KIRK DOUGLAS!!! I am Batman....NO, I am Batman, NO I am batman. Really...think about it.
Like Eastwod or Newman would ever do BATMAN by Kyle.Reese	Sep 29th, 2000 01:16:26 PM
Be realistic here. Do you think for a moment that any major star in Hollywood is gonna put their name anywhere near BATMAN?
Superman can't be Batman by Carf	Sep 29th, 2000 01:22:37 PM
How about the guy who played Remo Williams? If he can get out of doing Tremors IV that is.
Charles Bronson by PapaFreud	Sep 29th, 2000 01:51:34 PM
I know this has nothing to do with either Batman film being discussed but I always thought that Charles Bronson would make a fine Commisioner Gordon. I agree with the above poster who wants to get away from hiring stars for every superhero and/or adventure role. Get someone who's right for the part.It worked for Superman, StarWars and James Bond. Ofcourse there are exceptions to this rule and one of those exceptions in my humble opinion is BATMAN BEYOND.Terry can be an unknown but the elder Bruce Wayne really should be a name actor with a lot of history in our collective mind. Most of the names mentioned would be good choices. I feel compelled to say something about all the Charlton Heston bashing. Let's forget our own politics for a moment. Don't we live in a country where people are allowed to express their beliefs? The gun control issue has some strong arguements on both sides. It's not as if Heston is a Nazi or KKK advocate. I found all the Heston bashing at last year's oscars to be especially disturbing for three reasons that immediatly come to mind. A) The very notion of The Oscars, Olympics or other such events being used as a bully pulpit by The Left or The Right is disturbing because there is no chance for rebutal. B)There is tremendous pressure not only in Hollywood but in most of The Arts in this country to be completely LEFT in your politics. Anyone working in Hollywood and The Arts who expresses a different opinion is subject to persecution.Last year's oscars and Tom Selleck's appearance on THE ROSIE O'DONNEL SHOW are recent examples that immediatly come to mind. "HOW DARE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION!!!" Have you ever noticed that openly republican actors are either at the very top like Arnold (where they can protect themselves) or hardly working? A good deal of the nation gets their information and ideas from the media, the arts and the entertainment industry. The notion that contrary opinions are being suppressed is very frightening. Even if you're a hardcore, uncompromising Leftist you've got to see that the suppresion of thought is contrary to democratic principals. Let Heston speak! Even if you don't agree with him. C) Show me a large group of people (not counting religious and political groups)where almost everyone has the exact same political beliefs and I'll show you a group of people who are for the most part not thinking for themselves. There are members of the Hollywood Left like Paul Newman, Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins who's beliefs are intelligent and well thought out. I have tremendous respect for them and people like them but most of the Hollywood Left are a bunch of kneejerk reactionaries following a herd mentality. And most of them are hypocrites!!! When's the last time a black director won the oscar for best director? When's the last time a film directed by a black filmmaker won best picture? MALCOLM X was on Martin Scorcesse's list of the ten best films of the 90's but The Acadamy was unimpressed.Why was it that all those films about South Africa had to star a white guy? In the 80's a film was made about americans of japanese decent being sent to relocation camps during WWII starring Dennis Quaid. I know this is a film site and I apologize if I've offended for talking politics. I agree not to talk politics as long as everyone else does. As to my politics? It all depends on the issue.
My Grandpa was a sooper hero by Mother Plucker	Sep 29th, 2000 01:59:59 PM
He went by the name of Captain Lightning. Square jaw, huge biceps. Perfect. He always talked about the perfect society he lived in even though "negro's" wern't even allowed to drink from a white mans drinking fountain. He gave me his costume a few years ago but instead of scanning rooftops looking for evil I just hang out mastubating furiously to Catwoman comics. The reason my father didn't take over the mantle of Cpt. Lightning is that he disappeard from my life and it haunts me. He actually came back but he was undead/a dream/ a clone/ from an alternate reality ... and in all cases quickly disappeared.Anyhoo my grandpa should play the Elder Batman. And I could play the young Terry Batman. I too have a meancing jawline and biting good looks.
JASON LEE by super_darcy	Sep 29th, 2000 02:07:11 PM
I swear to god. Jason Lee would kick ass ass batman. .d
EVERY single one of you is WRONG by Darth Brooks	Sep 29th, 2000 02:08:27 PM
There is no other choice: it HAS to be Stacy Keach as the aging Bruce Wayne. You want a big, gruff, slightly paunchy ex-linebacker-type with a cynical wit and a voice that would scare the bejeezus out of an alley crook. Bingo - that's Mr. Keach. That Paul Newman story is a total crock - it's got urban legend smell all OVER it.
Adam West is not dead by travistshuler	Sep 29th, 2000 02:23:25 PM
Why has every one forgotten about Adam West? He's got the voice, the looks, he doesn't look too old... and oh yeah, he used to be Batman! Seriously, think about his deadpan delivery in the sixties show and imagine him in a serious role. I bet he'd be interested too, remember the episode of the animated series "the Gray Ghost" in which he voiced the title character?It's too perfect.
Batman Beyond by Darth Grego	Sep 29th, 2000 02:49:34 PM
Said it before and I'll say it again: Willem Dafoe as the Joker.
No, my first name ain't "Baby." It's Janet--Ms. Jackson if you' by Village Idiot	Sep 29th, 2000 02:50:19 PM
To badly paraphrase Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor from the movie Superman: "It isn't that I don't trust you, Nasty [pregnant pause] I don't trust you Nasty, what the hell are you talking about?"
Release date moved up by Ace1384	Sep 29th, 2000 02:56:00 PM
I'm just angered by the fact that the Batman Beyond Return of the Joker release was pushed back to December.
travis is right by Carnosaur	Sep 29th, 2000 03:06:29 PM
travistshuler is absolutely correct. Adam West aint dead and he'd be the perfect old Batman. In fact I know where u can find him. He's out back of my house living in a dumpster.
Coburn by BatTat	Sep 29th, 2000 03:17:59 PM
I had this discussion with my brother a few weeks ago, and I suggested Newman then. For sheer acting ability. But he came up with James Coburn - and after a second viewing of 97's Affliction with Nick Nolte - I have to agree. He's got the big, scary imposing physical presence, and he's got a great deep, resonant voice that would be necesary for the role. After all, by the very nature of the story, a great deal of what we "see" of Bruce Wayne is what we hear through Batman's headset. Just a thought.
Heston-hating by TradSka	Sep 29th, 2000 03:36:20 PM
I personally wouldn't have thought of Charlton for the role, but now that I do think about it, he'd be pretty damn good. And as for these people that keep saying he'd never work because Batman hates guns and Heston is a gun proponent in real life, all I have to say is: How the hell could that possibly matter? Last time I checked, the definition of acting was "A manifestation of intentional or unintentional insincerity; a pose;" in other words, PRETENDING TO BE SOMETHING FUCKING ELSE. It's something that this man was doing - and doing well - long before most of us were old enough to care that whatever was on the screen in front of us was anything more than a big mass of pretty colors. That's like saying Keaton shouldn't have played Batman because he doesn't wear a rubber suit and battle crime in real life. What a crock. I don't want to turn this into a political forum, but I personally have no problem with the man's politics (it's easy to be a whiny PC liberal until... aw, never mind), and he's charismatic as hell. I say go with him.
Heston Playing Bruce Wayne (Does him being in the NRA have ANYTH by TheFAR	Sep 29th, 2000 03:37:28 PM
Spatzman your an idiot if you think that being the leader of a politacal group like the NRA means your helping crime. Heston would be perfect for the part in my eyes and if we can seprate a Presidents personal and private life based upon his work then we can seprates an actoprs personal BELIEFS and ability to play a part. -Nuff Said
I have to say it... by squidman	Sep 29th, 2000 03:40:25 PM
Lee Majors
ADAM WEST shoud be given consideration. by riskebiz	Sep 29th, 2000 03:53:27 PM
Though a smile comes to ones face with the thought of Eastwood or Newman as the aged Bruce Wayne (personally I'd go with Alex Ross's seemingly older model of Wayne from "Kingdom Come": Gregory Peck), I think that the one actor of the exact right age and the exact look for Bruce Wayne is ADAM WEST. If whoever directs this gets him to play it straight ... I'd personally love to see it. As campy as the old Batman TV show was, Adam West was a great looking Bruce Wayne ... the best out of all the actors to play the part based on looks (camp aside). His chiselled face was the perfect represention of millionaire playboy Bruce Wayne. The only one who could have been more perfect was a young Gregory Peck (hence Kingdom Come). Adam should at least be given a screen test for this Batman Beyond movie. He would be perfect and a fan favorite and the publicity alone would be worth millions. Again, Adam West ... playing it straight ... for Bruce Wayne in Batman Beyond.
Kevin Conroy by Manos	Sep 29th, 2000 03:55:25 PM
How about Kevin Conroy? He's been the voice of the Batman for almost a decade. I saw in interview with him, and he certainly looked the part.
ADAM WEST, baby, ADAM WEST! by Asmodeus	Sep 29th, 2000 03:58:30 PM
I'm sure someone's already said it, but it bears repeating: ADAM WEST! ADAM WEST!! Wait, he's not dead, is he? I didn't even know he was sick. No, he's probably not dead, I saw him in that commerical a year or so ago. I guess he isn't that old, but that's what makeup's for (no, don't say the return of Mr. Mom). Paul Newman rules, but he's too short. Charleton Heston would be okay, but all must fall before ADAM WEST! ADAM WEST!! (I'm being totally seriously, here.)
two words: "adam jones west" by my colon sucks	Sep 29th, 2000 03:58:40 PM
how can any other actor be seriously considered for the role (except brando; i'd watch him play 'the phone book')? the emotional maturity he brought the bruce wayne role in the latter sixties series and film far outshines the performance of rod lowery in the beautifully photographed forties serial. throw in shumacher, and we've got ourselves a picture. as for the role of terry mcgillis, who better to portray the anguish and veracity required of the role than an actor whom we've watched grow into a consumate character actor, the incomparable mcCauley culkin?
Heston's politics WILL keep him from doing BB! by Drath	Sep 29th, 2000 04:02:28 PM
For one thing, he's got plenty on his plate as president of the NRA. I don't think he'll take time off to do a movie anytime soon, much less a film with anti-gun subject matter. And YES Batman is damn anti-guns. A gun killed his parents, and he himself doesn't use guns. He dislikes them as much as crime, and he doesn't use them in his war against it. In fact it was his need to pick up a gun in self defense that caused him to finally hang up the cowl in the Batman Beyond storyline. I know it's acting, but Mr. Heston isn't going to ignore his politics to be involved in such a contrary project. And I don't think Dini will compromise the character to woo Heston in, either. (note: those machine guns in the batwing in the '89 Batman were WAY out of place). I'm not choosing sides here, everybody is entitled to their stand on the matter, but I think this would be a major impass for Heston playing the part even though, IMHO, he is the damn spitting image of the cartoon character just as Jason Behr(Roswell) is the spitting image of the toon Terry McGinnis, and the two of them in the movie would be fan-fucking-tastic. But shit and c'est la vie. (Also in my wish list, Stockard Channing MUST play Comissioner Barbara Gordon, Jada Pinkett-Smith should play Max, Ronny Cox IS Derrick Powers/Blight, and Catherine-Zeta Jones would make a great Inque--assuming she's used)
Why make this movie? by crackerfarmboy	Sep 29th, 2000 04:24:32 PM
Keep the Beyond series/movies animated. Make Year One first! Make Year One first! Damnit someone listen to me! Year One NOW!!!!!
CZJ as inque? Yowza! by BurninBullwinkle	Sep 29th, 2000 04:29:50 PM
Great suggestion! I'd love to see it, especially since I allways thought Inque was a FAR stronger villan than Blight. I'd go with her as the main baddie, if only they didn't have to do the whole "killed my father thing." Well, cross my fingers for the sequel. I'd also like to see Will Friedle as Terry if only because he supplies the voice. He'd have to bulk up, but if he can, give him the part. (Hmmm... unless they bring back Arnie's head as Mr. Freeze...) Now as far as "Batman hates guns" goes, it's a character, and though Batman hates guns, the saga itself has never been anti-gun. Or are Gordon and Bullock bad guys, now? It's simpley a character quirk and something that's never been dwelt on (save for that one moment in the BB premiere, which was perfectly done), at least in the series. BTW, I still gotta go with Heston as my choice, but Adam West would be fun if they got him to play it straight. (Thank the maker Shumaker isn't involved...)
Oh come on... by Quetzalcoatl	Sep 29th, 2000 04:34:47 PM
Make up your fucking minds, you stupid assholes. "Harry doesn't post enough rumors! He only posts confirmed stuff! People are scooping him!"...the minute he posts a rumor "Too many unsubstantiated rumors!" even though he says clearly that it's completely unconfirmed? Eep, eep, you fucking jackals. And all you anti-freedom, anti-gun schmucks...jesus christ. I mean, I don't support the NRA really, but I don't support outlawing guns either. And either way I don't think it'd be "wrong" to have Heston in a Batman film. Get some perspective, you goddamn fanboys. Last I heard Arnold isn't a robot from the future, either. Newman is a good choice, anyway. Goddamn fanboys will gripe about anything. "The lenses they're shooting with are COMPLETELY wrong! They won't give the clarity necessary to truly capture..."
charlton heston is a good idea, but the bad toupe poses a proble by baff	Sep 29th, 2000 04:40:44 PM
i think this guy may have misheard, "warners is asking me to be batman" with "i wanna ask if this salad dressing has fat, man?". oh COME ON!! I CANT MAKE ONE DAMN SALAD DRESSING JOKE?? btw, dont bitch about bea arthur!! bea arthur rules!!! and aint it a coincidence, i havent heard the name rue mclanahan in ages but i do here, and a few posts down someone mentions bea arthur. is someone out there having a golden girls fetish? i know i am! bring it on, estelle getty!!! hop yall are enjoying the olympics! baff
Paul Newman? by Tin Snoman	Sep 29th, 2000 04:48:50 PM
Paul Newman is a putz. I went to the Volvo/Mazda dealer that he owns to get my car fixed last year, and they were rather quite rude! Also, my friend puts Mustang engines into Volvos, and he doesn't like him because of an episode a few years ago involving patents of his designs somehow registered to Mr. Newman. Or whatever. Point is, I don't think he's the greatest guy ever, but I could be wrong. Hey, you think I could be in the new Batman movie? I could be Mr. Freeze's grandson or something! Ah, it'll suck poopoo anyways. Unless Saffron Burrows is in it. This is Tin Snoman, saying "Death awaits you all, with nasty big pointy teeth!"
by Mother Plucker	Sep 29th, 2000 05:13:24 PM

All you BigLarz-aholics, take note! by BigLarz	Sep 29th, 2000 05:13:47 PM
I really didn't know where to post this, since this anecdote is a mixture of Batman Beyond and Almost Famous, but it appears that Batman Beyond is the winner. I was recently approached by Warner Brothers about a project called BigLarz Beyond. This would be a spoof of the Batman Beyond series/movie, and was originally slated to come out at the same time as the Batman Beyond feature. The premise was simple: in a future an elder BigLarz (Brian Denehey was approached for this role) lives alone in his condo. AICN had become a vast, corporate website of colorless talkbackers. A young boy stumbles upon BigLarz and his past legacy, and takes on the role of BigLarz, posting several brilliant reviews of The Karate Kid. However, this is the point where the project fell apart. The studio wanted to portray the elder BigLarz as a kid toucher, and he and BigLarz Beyond even had an erotic love scene in the original draft of the movie. Of course, I didn't want to ruin the public image of BigLarz, so I walked. Its a shame, really, this movie had the potential to be the "Scary Movie" of comicbook movies.
Guns didnt kill Bruce Waynes parents by Mother Plucker	Sep 29th, 2000 05:17:55 PM
A criminal with a gun killed Bruce Waynes parents. Too bad neither Miss or Mr. Wayne had a legal firearm, they just may have altered destiny. And while were on the subject, sure stupid kids end up toying around with daddies gun and blowing their heads to pieces but people that stupid need to off themselves before they get old enough to drive or get into any other environment where their own stupidity can kill others.
DOH! by Mother Plucker	Sep 29th, 2000 05:21:17 PM
Yes I know I wrote Miss instead of Mrs.
Paul Newman Is God. by DropKickMurphy	Sep 29th, 2000 07:47:31 PM
I don't even care if the rumor is bullshit, i'm always up for talking about Mr Newman. He's perfect for the role, he's got those eyes where you can see almost right through them. Plus it'd be cool to have a picture of Bruce Wayne on all of my salad dressing bottles. Cool Hand Bruce Wayne. Nice. Dropkick splitting like pants....
How about Richard Gere? by dagl	Sep 29th, 2000 08:01:41 PM
He's gettin' older. And then he could have lots of girlfriends the age of his grand kids...
richard greico? by mstryoda	Sep 29th, 2000 08:58:13 PM
what was that about?
The Bat-Battleposter has spoken. I guess we can all drop it now by LlGHTST0RMER	Sep 29th, 2000 09:23:31 PM
As always, the Battleposter has pretty much tapered off all possible speculation on this Talkback. What more needs to be said on any of this? But on a different note... question about guns and gun control: YES, guns are killing way too many people in this country, and YES, people do still need to keep the occasional weapon nearby for self- or home-protection. But instead of banning them (which I do think should be done with at least certain types of guns, but so many people are so adamantly against such actions,) why can't we just make laws more stringent regarding the LICENSING of gun-handlers. I mean, if you only hunt or collect, you will have a license for your guns. But if you're a criminal, or you've acquired your gun(s) in a less-than-legal fashion, the weapons will probably not be registered to you. Can't we come up with, like, phenomenally high punishments for people who are caught with guns that are not registered to them? That would keep the collectors happy, and could conceivably keep armed criminals off the streets, wouldn't it? Obviously, I'm not too well-versed in gun politics and such. Could someone in the know tell me the flaws in this logic, please? Lightstormer out.
Bruce Campbell by Xphile69	Sep 29th, 2000 09:25:02 PM
5 words: Bruce Campbell as Batman! ...damn
Hell yes Paul Newman he'd be GREAT!! Butch Cassidy rides again! by Regis Travolta	Sep 29th, 2000 09:31:34 PM
No doubt some of you younger nitwits don't recognize the 1-2-3-GO!! reference so kindly rent "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" to see just how fantastic Newman would be in this part, and yeah I know he made that movie 30 years ago which is why he'd be so spectacular as our older Bruce Wayne here. You stupid fucking losers who hate this idea are stupid fucking losers, I hope and pray this is totally true because it would kick ass from here to infinity. Lorenzo do it!! Hire Paul Newman and enjoy the praise that comes your way!! Go Newman!!!
My 1st choice for the Dark Knight: by Sith Lord Jesus	Sep 29th, 2000 09:37:12 PM
Heston; followed very closely by Newman if my primary pick can't do it. Bronson would be good as Gordon; as someone else already mentioned. But who to be The Joker? Oh yeah, I, too would have loved to see a CATWOMAN movie. They should have did that instead of the disaster that was BATMAN FOREVER and its hellacious-sequel-that-shall-n ot-be-named, but oh well.
Or how about RUDY FROM 'SURVIVOR'!!! by Regis Travolta	Sep 29th, 2000 09:37:26 PM
RUDY YOUR TIME HAS COME!! BE OUR OLDER DARK KNIGHT!! YOU'LL SHINE!
Michael Keaton in makeup... by xeeds	Sep 29th, 2000 10:01:28 PM
I say bring Keaton back with some makeup to make him look 65. Keaton is 49, it wouldn't be a huge stretch. I don't mind Eastwood, he has that sunken skin/chisled look that Bruce has on BB, but I also think he is too skinny. Conroy with makeup could work. Politics aside I just plain can't see Heston as Bruce, you'd get the same with Eastwood, but I'd have a hard time seeing him as the character and not Charlton Heston. Newman I think is all wrong, plus for someone who said he only wants to do a few more movies, possibly only one more with his wife, I can't see him taking the role. They could get Michael Gough to play Batman, then there could be contreversy that Alfred was really Bruce's father and never had the courage to tell him. No so far I think the Keaton idea, but I think its going to be a lesser known actor and not a big big name. -x
I Can't Believe No One's Mentioned Adam West Yet! by Cowblaster	Sep 29th, 2000 10:51:51 PM
Man, if I were serious about that, I'd take a contract out on my own life.
Why isn't anyone thinking about Will Friedle for Terry? by Goody2shoes	Sep 29th, 2000 11:12:00 PM
Sure he's probably too old (the 90201 cast weren't exactly spring chickens either), but a shave and the right hair stylist can do wonders. He was great at being funny and serious on Boy Meets World. Besides, he's HOT!! Ok, I'm done.
Heston would be perfect, but what about MICHAEL IRONSIDE? by Uncapie	Sep 29th, 2000 11:14:19 PM
That guy's got one of the coolest voices around! My choice for the Joker: DAVID PATRICK KELLY! "WARRIORS...COME OUT TO PLA-YAY!"
Gun laws and other such nonsense by gary2012	Sep 29th, 2000 11:22:17 PM
One thing to remember about gun laws and Columbine. The kids who shot up that school broke 17 gun laws in the process of gettng and using the guns. Does anyone think that law number 18 or 19 would have stopped them? Maybe enforcing laws number 1-17 might have, but making new laws because of that situation is just political nonsense, making it look like the government is actually tryng to do something other than slowly taking away all of our rights. Why are gun rights the first to go? Because it will make taking the rest a lot easier. Vote Nader in November. Keep that cocksucker sub-idiot Bush as far away from Washington as humanly possible.
THE TRUTH by Canadian Psycho	Sep 30th, 2000 12:19:58 AM
Hey Harry...you'll never guess what happened to me the other day. I was in Springfield U.S.A. and I stopped in at the local Kwick-e-Mart to get a lime squishy and guess who was in line in front of me. Abe Simpson, and he was talking to some guy in clown make-up about being in some future themed Batman movie. Anyway I told him that I thought he was great and he just fell asleep. Ummmm.... sorry but whoever thought of Rudy is the smartest human on the planet and should be put into the talkback hall of fame.
Why Do People Keep Mentioning Parts For The Joker And Commisione by Cowblaster	Sep 30th, 2000 12:30:40 AM
I mean, you guys do KNOW what Batman Beyond IS, right? There is no Joker (mostly, aside from the upcoming animated movie where his return bases no less than a feature film) or James Gordon. Someone else mentioned Catwoman. CATWOMAN! Get with the program, folks. Sheesh!
Why do I always come back to Tim Thomerson? by Dlhstar	Sep 30th, 2000 12:37:37 AM
For some reason I think with just a little make-up work. I think Tim could really use a role in film beyond the B-Films that he always seems stuck in. Besides, he's still young enough to probably be able to pull off the younger/older Bruce that appeared in the animated series when he first dons the Beyond version of the suit in the beginning of the pilot of the BB series.
"Batman Beyond" is a prime example of what's wrong in entertainm by ARCTURUS	Sep 30th, 2000 12:54:58 AM
Wow! Look at me! I'm seventeen! I'm in high school, and it's tough! I'm from the future! Of course I've got a girlfriend, I'm no loser! I'm rebellious! Kids are always right, the (presumably more knowledgeable, more experienced) adults are always wrong! Screw old Bruce Wayne! What does he know about crime fighting anyway? I can fly! I'm computer-savy! Don't you wish you can be like me? (No). It doesn't matter who plays Bruce Wayne, because if there's any justice in the world, smart moviegoers will hurl a metaphoric SAM rocket (as in, not buying a ticket) into the stinking pit that is "Batman Beyond" and obliterate it forever. Then, hopefully, salt will be spread over the ashes of the proposed franchise so that nothing new will grow. I don't like "Batman Beyond" primarily because it is part of the crappy youthquake movement of hollywood. It also steals the futuristic thunder of the REAL futuristic Batman movie, The Dark Knight Returns. But no! We're youth-obsessed Hollywood! We can't go with an old Batman! We gotta have a youngster in there, someone the kids can identify with! Someone the "Scary Movie" crowd can appreciate! Old drolls, youth rules! But as compromise, we'll give you an Old Bruce Wayne in "Batman Beyond"!Well, to heck with that philosophy. Rent "Seven Samarai" sometime and watch a couple of old dudes kick butt sometime, big bad know-it-all-hollywood execs!
my casting opinion by zenda	Sep 30th, 2000 12:59:40 AM
Some interesting suggestions have been made. Kirk Douglas and Gregory Peck are both in too poor of health. Clint Eastwood, James Caan and James Garner, while interesting, just strike me as wrong. The brilliant Brian Dennehy is physically wrong, and Sean Connery is vocally wrong. Who do I like? Stacy Keach of James Coburn are sound choices. Adam West would be interesting. Paul Newman or Charleton Heston are excellent as well. But I like Harrison Ford myself. They can age him a little and he would be perfect.
some of you guys don't know shit. by Coopcooper	Sep 30th, 2000 01:25:47 AM
don't know shit about builds at least. clint eastwood would be a good old man batman. for those who say he's too skinny - what the fuck are you thinking? do you expect to find a bulky 60-70 year old man whose bulk isn't comprised of fat? an old batman should be on the skinny side as opposed to fat. c'mon, do you think bruce wayne would ever let himself go? fuck that. look to the past. anyone who says clint eastwood was never in shape is talking out of their ass. he is twice as muscular as any of the supposed batman's thus far. look at those movies he made with the monkey where he beat the piss out of guys. he's tall, lean, and built up and ripped. just like batman should be. christ, do you think they should try to cast a batman in year one that looks like the animated batman? impossible the way they draw musculature. get real guys, they're adapting a fucking cartoon into real world physics here. i mean, in the same post one guy calls for micheal keaton in make up then says eastwood is too skinny. micheal keaton couldn't take his shirt off in the first one. he had gotten in shape for desperate measures but he just was fatless with some muscle, nowhere near imposing. eastwood would be a good choice. physically, and he can act well. newman would also be good. i can see him as an old bruce wayne as well. gregory peck would be fantastic, but he's probably just too damn old. i think adam west is just as fine an actor as the next guy, but come on, this project is going to need something really special to gain wide-spread apeal, and the last thing they need to do is make a joke out of it. because even if adam west could pull off a serious performance, pretty much everyone would laugh at the sight of him or mention of his name. he's just too fucking goofy. charlton heston would be ok, but i think he and eastwood both fall into the roll of being themselves no matter how hard they try. it's by no fault of their own, its just that their faces and voices are so distinct. you couldn't really do a snl sketch with someone playing paul newman. his performance over the years have just been so varied. but then again, i don't even really care. i'm excited for year one and never really got into this cartoon. oh yeah, and i also don't know shit : )
Buzz Maverik!! You have appropriated my traditional joke castin by Bono	Sep 30th, 2000 02:04:06 AM
Well, okay. Have it your way. But stear clear of GARY BUSEY!
Merv Griffin? Andy Griffith? Father Geek! Eastwood, Heston, Robe by Regis Travolta	Sep 30th, 2000 03:54:24 AM

BURT REYNOLDS! by Vulcan Bob	Sep 30th, 2000 04:13:29 AM
THINK ABOUT IT! HE IS PERFECT FOR THE PART! BURT IS COOL AGAIN, SO IT'S OK TO ADMIT YOU LIKE HIM!
Oh the insanity by Mohss	Sep 30th, 2000 07:23:35 AM
Clint Eastwood? Paul Newman? Blech. Ah all of them. You need a character actor in this role, not a 'superstar'. Wouldn't it be great if, as a throw to the old great Burton Batmans, he dolled Michael Keaton up in old makeup and cast him? Heh. And in the glass cabinet he could have Val Kilmer and George Cloony with neon nipples.
WHAT THE 2ND AMENDMENT SAYS IN ITS ENTIRETY..... by RightWing Dude	Sep 30th, 2000 07:48:56 AM
Read carefully (especially you liberals): "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.".......Now, did you see that sentence saying "right of the PEOPLE"? Why do you liberals always omit that part????Like my man Heston says, "Gun Control is people control". As to the fellow who made the ridulous claim about Heston not being able to play Wayne because he facilitates crime in real life: that's ridiculous. I think that you should be making that statement instead about Clinton and Gore. After all, they are the ones who are refusing to have THEIR justice department enforce all of the gun control violations. However, Clinton and Gore won't permit that since they need a certain number of killings every year so they have an issue to demagogue in an election year. The only people who are affected by gun control are honest, law-abiding citizens.
charlton heston by congo	Sep 30th, 2000 08:25:49 AM
C'mon, Paul Newman??? This role belongs to Eastwood or Heston. Of course Hollywood is so McCartheistic these days they would never give the role to Heston.
BONO! Sorry About The Bea Arthur Post. Didn't know that was you by Buzz Maverik	Sep 30th, 2000 08:31:28 AM
I'll lay off Bea and Busey (who's funny). It's just that when I think of tough, scary old guys in a cave, one word comes to mind: Bea Arthur.
Well, it's good to see... by NAL2001	Sep 30th, 2000 08:51:30 AM

Hollywood Is MCCARTHYIESTICAL these days. A brief history of Mc by Buzz Maverik	Sep 30th, 2000 08:51:38 AM
Senator Joseph Milhous McCarthy started out as Cotton Mather's assistant prosecutor in Salem, MA. The case that really made him was THE PEOPLE vs. SABRINA, SAMANTHA & GLENDA. Later, he made his fortune in the slave trade but lost it all because he actually got into the business after the Emancipation Proclaimation was passed. He bummed around Asia for awhile, fought in the Opium Wars under the Devil Doctor, eventually making the rank of Private. Triumphantly returning to America, he was instrumental is starting the Great Depression. It is believed he's had a hand in the Roswell crash, MK-ULTRA, black heliocopters, the Watergate break-in, Whitewater, Iran-Contra and poisoning Gothan City's water supply with Joker gas. Seldom seen, spoken of in whispers, McCarthy was the inspiration for such fictional evil doers as Professor Moriarity, the Insidious Dr. Fu Manchu, Dr. Doom and Eddie Haskell. His weapons include a solar cannon, a shrink ray, a robot tripod, girl-bombs,an earthquake machine, a mutant making device and Dracula's blood in London gaslights. Known associates: Roy Cohn, Joel Schumacher, Saddam Hussein, Fredrich Krueger, the guy who the girl you like is in love with, The Wet Bandits, Boss Hogg and Tipper Gore. If you come across the Senator, do not try to apprehend him yourself. He's extremely dangerous. Since you're a geek, try using the Bat-signal, the Fantasti-flare or your shoephone to call for help. Good luck and let's be careful out there. GOD, HISTORY ROCKS!
He was Bond, James Bond... by CaptKronos	Sep 30th, 2000 09:01:24 AM
Timothy Dalton, the best Bond since Sean, would make an excellent "older" Bruce Wayne. 'Nuff said.
Well, it's good to see... by NAL2001	Sep 30th, 2000 09:03:50 AM
...that this site isn't as overrun by liberals as I once thought. Don't get me wrong, everyone has the right to their own opinion, but I think all the anti-Heston B.S. in Hollywood right now is despicable. People are treating him like a Nazi, saying that he's nothing more than a hammy actor (to those I say watch Brannagh's "Hamlet" from just four years back), and that he shouldn't be let on the silver screen ever again. Well, even if you don't agree with him, you have to admit that Heston has courage. A lot more courage than it takes to be a Rosie O'Donnell, a Barbara Streisand, a Tim Robbins, or a Jane Fonda in Hollywood. I'm sure that John Milius would have enjoyed a more successful career if he'd kept his politics to himself, but he just isn't that kind of person. On the subject of Batman, I think that Newman, Eastwood, or Heston all would have been perfect for Commissioner Gordon earlier in their careers, but as far as a "Beyond" feature, I've got to go with Heston. I don't think that Eastwood would totally dismiss the idea, after all, Warner Bros. has given him a fair amount of creative control over his films, even if they haven't recently (until "Space Cowboys", anyway) made much of a dent in the box office. If they do cast Clint, they already have the perfect younger Bruce Wayne in the guy who played young Clint in "Space Cowboys" (I think his name is Toby Stephens), now if they can just figure out how to do his voice right.
The Prefect Bruce Wayne . . . by havana_dreamer	Sep 30th, 2000 10:25:57 AM
for a Batman Beyond movie . . . RICHARD SIMMONS because he's gay and BB SUCKS!!! What is the fascination with this terrible spinoff. Make The Dark Knight Returns or shut up! And why are they making a Year ONE movie and a BB movie??? Same Bat movie, different bat time period!!! Just crawl back to Tim Burton on your bleeding knees you evil, mentally deprived WB execs, and beg him to make a Batman 5 with Michael Keaton!!! Get Howard Stern or Jeff Goldblum to play the Scarecrow and make it the darkest, scariets blankety-blankin' Batman movie yet! The franchise is not dead, only badly bleeding . . .! Bob Kane is spinning in his grave!!!
Yargh! I should have been clearer by Drath	Sep 30th, 2000 12:59:17 PM
Wow. I never knew how many NRA members frequent Ain't It Cool News Talkbacks. But the debate of gun control won't be settled here, so let's not kill each other arguing about it. We have more important issues to discuss like wheither Batman should have nipples this time out, and if the voice actors could carry a live action movie of their show! Hmm....that was supposed to be funny, but it sounds frightening close to reality, doesn't it? Anyway, earlier I did mean Batman the character was anti-guns, but I would think his own thinking is all that matters here. A criminal used a gun on his parents, and so he hates both crime AND guns, regardless of anyone elses view about it. Granted, he's not driven to whipe away guns from the Gotham as he is with crime. The cops aren't evil for having guns, but Batman is obviously against using that particular weapon himself. It's an inescapable facet of the character, particularly in Batman Beyond--considering the pilot. I don't think Heston would go for playing that kind of character. Of course, the spirit of the right to carry arms isn't confined to guns. And Batman has plenty of non-gun weapons to use. Maybe there's a chance he'd take it. He's better than Newman, that's for sure. And Eastwood, well he's not as right as Heston in my opinion. Maybe they can just CG old Wayne to Kevin Conroy's voice and be done with it.
How about Powers Booth! by xeeds	Sep 30th, 2000 01:14:27 PM
He's got a good deep voice, has a good build for the part, decent actor, he's 51, and though he is a familiar face he is not well known enough that you'd be seeing him and not the character. I'm stil fon dof the keaton idea, but just throwing out more suggestions.
Powers Booth photo. by xeeds	Sep 30th, 2000 01:33:32 PM
The only semi recent pictur I could find of Powers Boothe... http://us.imdb.com/EGallery?03 02-u-t/boothepo.wer
Doozer333, you're a bitch. by Uncapie	Sep 30th, 2000 02:35:57 PM
Chuck Heston was busy learning his craft before you were even born! He was in "Studio One" and "Suspense Theater" episodes. He worked with Orson Welles in "Touch Of Evil", portrayed Andrew Jackson in "The Buccaneer" with the late, great Yul Brynner, "Wreak Of the Mary Deare" with Gary Cooper and pre-Indiana Jones, "The Secret Of the Incas" with the great character actor, Thomas Mitchell. He's acted in over 100 films. 100 more than you, you little bitch! And don't put down Gregory Peck either! Sure, he's old and you'll get there too shitting in your D-pends! Just remember, Mr. Peck acted in some great films as "Moby Dick", "Gentleman's Agreement", "Roman Holiday" and "The Gunfighter." He also studied under one of the greatest drama teachers, Sanford Meisner. So before you start ragging on the "old timers", learn some respect for their work.
Nick Nolte and Guns by Ktak	Sep 30th, 2000 04:02:32 PM
Someone earlier mentioned Nick Nolte's name, but I don't think it was as a possible Bruce Wayne. Although he's quite a bit younger than BW is depicted in Batman Beyond, I have no doubts that he could pull it off with a little help from the make-up people. Now on the subject of guns, gun control and the NRA, as a gun owner I have to say that I tend to stand slightly to the right of center on the issue. Yes, gun violence in America is out of control, but if anyone thinks adding more gun laws or taking guns from law-abiding people like myself will make things better, you're on drugs! Criminals don't care about laws, that's why they're CRIMINALS!!! Hollywood especially should know better than to preach about gun control. Los Angeles has among the highest incidence of gun violence in the U.S. -- even though it has probably the strictest gun laws in the country! I especially despise the hipocrisy of Hollywood, demonizing gun owners and the NRA while at the same time glorifying the use of handguns in movies. Anybody remember those anti-NRA posters in Lethal Weapon 4? The very same movie that featured Mel Gibson and Chris Rock pointing their sidearms at Joe Peschi as a JOKE! Great example for the kids, huh? First thing you learn in any NRA class is you treat all guns as if they're loaded, and you never, EVER point a gun at anything you don't plan to shoot. The fact is, a very large portion of Americans who use handguns safely and responsibly learned how to do that at NRA-sponsored gun safety classes -- Period. When's the last time anybody saw a gun safety class that wasn't somehow affiliated with the NRA? Handgun Control sure hasn't offered any that I know about. By the way, speaking of John Milius, I remember reading a story about how during the LA riots, all these anti-gun Hollywood liberals went running to Milius asking to borrow some guns from his collection. Turns out they couldn't get any of their own because of the mandatory waiting period (which they had all been screaming for). Milius told them all to screw off!
Too bad Walter Mathaus dead by Ishmal	Sep 30th, 2000 04:09:26 PM
Is Bob Hope still around?
Batman VS Punisher by Mother Plucker	Sep 30th, 2000 04:12:29 PM
I've never read anywhere that Batman hates guns only that he won't use them because he "won't kill" which is fine since that's what guns are for. But if I was a baddass like Batman and could do flips off of moving cars and shit I wouldn't use a gun either. The Punisher on the other hand uses guns and if he was Gothams protector things may be diffrent (admitedly he's not the best person a gun advocate should use since we all shriek about home protection but he's on rooftops sniping people)but he could have saved Barbara Gordon from being crippled by the Joker and saved Robin from death and if he popped most of Arkum Asylum things would be much safer. Admitedly though I think Commisoner Gordon would have to take the Punisher down for what he was doing and I think the reason he lets Batman run hog wild is because he "doesn't kill". Anyhoo, what do you think of those apples?
Sounds like Newman's Publicist by freexter	Sep 30th, 2000 06:08:09 PM
is working overtime. I can see them now, in their plushed L.A. office: "Hey, you know what would be cool? Let's get the fanboys all excited about getting pauly" (This, of course, is what I assume newman's agents would call him, but I digress) "being in Batman, and that way, when the geeks yell for him to be in it on the net and shit, we can go to the studio and go, Hey, you freaks, see? The fanboys want him, so put him in! Pauly needs a new house!" But that's my opinion, I could be wrong.
Adam West and Michael Keaton are the only options by SnapT	Sep 30th, 2000 06:45:55 PM
The elder Batman should be either played by Adam West, who is more than capable of doing the role and would be very fun to see, or Michael Keaton in very good old person make-up. There are no other options.
James Garner by JeffC	Sep 30th, 2000 07:22:55 PM
The hands down best choice to play Bruce Wayne is James Garner.
Bill Murray! George Carlin! John Forsythe! Tom Bosley! Garry Sha by Regis Travolta	Sep 30th, 2000 07:27:39 PM

Nasty, you were on drugs. by RABID KIMBA	Sep 30th, 2000 07:46:56 PM
I was right behind you at that same deli. It was Robert Redford not Paul Newman.
The perfect Bruce for BB. by Superman	Sep 30th, 2000 07:49:23 PM
Adam West, nuff said.
Old Timers & the Actors' Strike by LittleSaturn	Sep 30th, 2000 07:50:19 PM
I preface this post by saying that all doors are open becuase of the impending Actors' Strike (if you don't know what I'm talking about, try reading more than just news from Internet Rumour Mills such as this one -- especially if you plan to reply to my post). The studio will put a lot of money into this baby and will be able to woo anyone they want -- they don't have a choice. Given the small window of time to film this movie, there's no room for risk-taking. Don't count on their using ANY unknowns. When I heard that they were making this film, my immediate response was, "What a fantastic opportunity to bring back some awesome actors from the golden era." The absolute first, gut-instinct response to the Bruce Wayne casting dilemma was Heston. Put your fanboy pride in Bronson, West, Ironside, and Eastwood aside. Older Bruce Wayne has a quality about him that is hard to pinpoint. He is a vastly complex individual with an equally complex past of success and failure. He has an intangible aura of wisdom and power about him. For better or worse, the only two actors who embody these aspects of Bruce Wayne are Heston and Newman. On top of this aura, Bruce Wayne has a huge, menacing presence. Heston -- but not Newman -- possesses that as well. As an end note, I'd like to add my own two cents to the Barbara Gordon casting dilemma. Give it to Lauren Bacall. Dini must have had her in mind as the (at least partial) model for Barbara. Aside from her obvious Barbara-esque qualities, this is the woman who lost Bogart -- the living embodiment of older Bruce in his heyday.
Yoda as Bruce Wayne! And by the way... by Tin Snoman	Sep 30th, 2000 08:46:15 PM
Thank you Buzz. I never realized the guy who the girl I like is in love with was actually a McCarthy associate...my lovelife makes sense now. He's such a psycho pig, too. She shouldn't have such self esteem issues. On to less personal issues- As for all of you worrying about your amendment rights, well guess what? They're all going down the toilet soon anyway. Right to bear arms? Ha. Freedom of religion? Ha. All the other ones I can't think of offhand? Ha. Government is a joke. It's all corporate now. All that's left is me, Saffron Burrows, and a box of cracker jacks. Deal with it. Now the government is going to be after me. Great. Just more crap I have to deal with. Like the time I had to save the world from the Fat Men from Space. I think I'll go beat myself up now, Ed Norton-style.
Paul in the Deli by Snafu	Sep 30th, 2000 08:47:40 PM
No one get down on Nasty for this one, the deli in Westport (probably Oscar's) is very poopular and Newman is known to be there just like he goes to Luna frequently. I used to live in Westport and have seen him dining out frequently, so back off. The rumor may or may not be true, but there's nothing wrong with the information surrounding it.
THE BEYOND. by Hipalien	Sep 30th, 2000 08:54:18 PM
I have really enjoyed these posts. They have gone everywhere and even into politics. On casting I believe old Mr. Wayne in BEYOND is in the 70-80 range. I could be wrong, but that was the impression I got based on the time that had elasped since he retired the BAT. So Eastwood, Heston and Newman would fall into that age bracket easily. Would they fit the part I am not sure? In the series Wayne is still a tough old dude with some intelligence, so whomever can embody that would do well. Nolte was also an interesting pick. Keep on rocking you cool humans!
Oops! Forgot to mention Regis Philbin! D'Oh!! by Regis Travolta	Sep 30th, 2000 08:56:21 PM
Also Walter Cronkite, David Brinkley, Strom Thurmond, Tom Selleck! Seriously though I like the idea of Powers Boothe or Stacy Keach but they ain't big enough I'm afraid. Heston's too old, Newman great, but more I think about it the more I like Eastwood but he'd never do it which leaves us with Newman.
How about James Coburn? by Toyfu, Royce	Sep 30th, 2000 08:58:27 PM
He could mentor both the acting and in the script. All he would have to do is remember back to his Flint days and guide his protege. They could get nifty bat-lighters too.
My Phone Call To Jack Nicholson About Playing Bruce Wayne... by Buzz Maverik	Sep 30th, 2000 10:54:03 PM
"Lara! You'd better bring back those goddam albums!" "Do I sound like Lara?" "Oh. Buzz. Sorry, man. It's this damn break up. It's getting to me. The skinny little skank took my Led Zepplin 4. She took my Darkness On The Edge of Town. Buzz, she took my Goat's Head Soup." "So replace 'em. You're rich." "It's not the money, it's the principle. It's against the break up rules. When I broke up with Angelica I gave back her White Album and her Surrealistic Pillow and her Dark Side of the Moon!" "Yeah. What can I say? Some people are class acts, some aren't. Listen, Jack, you know what you need?" "To get my London Calling back?" "No, you need to work." "Could you work if some toothpick made off with all your Fleetwood Mac?" "Jack, I think you're the man to play Bruce Wayne in Batman Beyond." "Live action? Not the cartoon?" "Live action." "Me, as Bruce Wayne, huh? That'd shake 'em up, wouldn't it?" "You're damned right! Play him like a cross between Colonel Nathan Jessup and the Joker and you'd have him nailed." "The Joker playing Batman....Interesting. It'd be a while duality of man sort of thing." "Exactly! They're two sides of the same coin." "Yeah, like the Killing Joke. They get a decent script, I'm in." "Good deal, Jack. I'm going to go post this on AICN." "Say, Buzz, could you give Lara a call about my albums. I think she'd listen to you." "(Sigh). Alirght. See ya, Jack."
My Phone Call To Jack Nicholson About Playing Bruce Wayne... by Buzz Maverik	Sep 30th, 2000 10:54:04 PM
"Lara! You'd better bring back those goddam albums!" "Do I sound like Lara?" "Oh. Buzz. Sorry, man. It's this damn break up. It's getting to me. The skinny little skank took my Led Zepplin 4. She took my Darkness On The Edge of Town. Buzz, she took my Goat's Head Soup." "So replace 'em. You're rich." "It's not the money, it's the principle. It's against the break up rules. When I broke up with Angelica I gave back her White Album and her Surrealistic Pillow and her Dark Side of the Moon!" "Yeah. What can I say? Some people are class acts, some aren't. Listen, Jack, you know what you need?" "To get my London Calling back?" "No, you need to work." "Could you work if some toothpick made off with all your Fleetwood Mac?" "Jack, I think you're the man to play Bruce Wayne in Batman Beyond." "Live action? Not the cartoon?" "Live action." "Me, as Bruce Wayne, huh? That'd shake 'em up, wouldn't it?" "You're damned right! Play him like a cross between Colonel Nathan Jessup and the Joker and you'd have him nailed." "The Joker playing Batman....Interesting. It'd be a while duality of man sort of thing." "Exactly! They're two sides of the same coin." "Yeah, like the Killing Joke. They get a decent script, I'm in." "Good deal, Jack. I'm going to go post this on AICN." "Say, Buzz, could you give Lara a call about my albums. I think she'd listen to you." "(Sigh). Alirght. See ya, Jack."
Is everyone here friggin retarded?!? by Corpsegrinder	Sep 30th, 2000 11:13:57 PM
Allright, after reading through the talk backs a little, one thing comes to mind...Why don't you morons quit referring to Dark Night returns...this is all about Batman Beyond..."well, Bruce Wayne kinda looked like blah blah blah in Dark night..." So, Bruce Wayne looked like my ASS in Dark Night, sooo, My fucking ASS would be perfect in a role in BATMAN BEYOND! To hell with all that shit, and also, I'm pretty sick of people thinking that just because they like some actor, that said actor should be Bruce Wayne. Sean Connery wouldn't be good, Clint Eastwood is no Batman, to hell with Charles Bronson(i hope his mention was a joke, does anyone really like that bastard anyway?) Start naming people who would be a good Bruce Wayne, not an actor you think does good movies. ...Adam West, that guy wasn't fit for the role of Bruce Wayne when he was doing it, much less now... Plus all of the NRA talk, which isn't the subject, and shouldn't be an issue, but since you all felt the need, so do I...Sure I think it's fucked up that kids kill kids, and kids accidentally die because of their parents' guns, so, let's go ahead and take all of the private citizens' guns away, so that all of the "criminals" can shoot us too. Gee, there's no defense like NO defense...That's a swell idea...-Corpsegrinder
This Guy Won an Oscar(TM) by Ogre	Sep 30th, 2000 11:40:15 PM
I'm surprised nobody mentioned this, but how about James Coburn. He oozed intimidation in Affliction, he was hella cool in Payback,he's got one of the best voices in showbusiness.("Chevrolet, Like A ROCK..") And he needs work..Ever since he won the Oscar for Affliction, he just disappeared.
Little known tidbit about the Bats character by BurninBullwinkle	Oct 1st, 2000 12:28:24 AM
In the early days o' Bob Kane, Batman used a pair of twin .45's as part of his arsenal to fight evil. Of course, that was abandoned a short time into the series and it was a good move as far as I'm concerned, I'm just surprised some Batman geek didn't bring it up.
I vote for Corpsegrinders ass to portray Batman. by Uncapie	Oct 1st, 2000 12:36:14 AM
He does have a great theatrical background. Though the make up girl will have a shitty job wiping him down after each take.
Alright! Who The Hell Mentioned Green Arrow?!?! by Cowblaster	Oct 1st, 2000 12:41:44 AM
Green Arrow. GREEN ARROW! Why? Just. . . why? The Dark Knight Returns and Batman Beyond do NOT go hand-in-hand. They are seperate entities. I swear, if someone mentions a part for Robin in this project, I'm gonna start killing people.
The Perfect Batman by 21centdigitalboy	Oct 1st, 2000 03:04:24 AM
For Batman Beyond, all I have to say is Harvey Keitel!!! This guy can be old and mean (Reservoir Dogs), old and kinda nice (Reservoir Dogs), and just a big mean mo fo (Reservoir Dogs). He also has that withered look, like I have kicked everyones ass and I'm a little tired now. As for the young bat-fool, I would suggest going with some unknown actor. As for Batman, year one, I can see that dude on Angel that plays Wesley Windem Price doing a young Batman, though he would need to bulk up a little. The Digital Boy has spoken, and an old bats is Harvey Keitel!!!
Suggestions by Clampett	Oct 1st, 2000 04:52:31 AM
Suggestions for Bruce Robert Conrad Ed Harris Jack Palance
My 2nd Ammendment opinion (as protected by the FIRST Ammendment) by Andy Travis	Oct 1st, 2000 05:26:51 AM
The 2nd Ammendment was created by a weak, fledgling nation with no real military force. The reason? The U.S. needed state militias. Citizens therefore needed "the right to bear arms" so that a sizeable force of armed militia men could be readily assembled in case of trouble. I don't see how this applies today.
I WAS AT MCDONALDS THE OTHER DAY AND SAW...... by RightWing Dude	Oct 1st, 2000 07:44:24 AM
Jennifer Love Hewitt. She told me all about her completely nude layout in the January 2001 issue of PLAYBOY along with Britney Spears-we get to see each of them from top to bottom-together too........................... .. Seriously though, James Coburn is a good choice! As for you, Andy Travis and other freedome-haters, yes, the 2nd amendment still appies today! Why don't you go preach your anti-gun views to the people of Cuba or China? Better yet, it's too bad you liberals weren't around to preach it to the European Jews in 1939 or the people who were killed because of Pol Pot..... Look at nations like Australia which have banned guns recently. Crime has shot up big time because criminals have a free reign over everybody. The same can be said of states with strict gun-control laws. And as I wrote on here yesterday, if Clinton and Gore would only have their Justice Deparment prosecute the gun control violations of existing laws which are taking place, then there wouldn't be such an outcry for more gun-control. But, Clinton and Gore need an issue to demagogue so that won't be happening.
Andy Travis, you poor misguided... by Falcon-1	Oct 1st, 2000 08:42:59 AM
Thank you for that little piece of revisionist US history. What left wing, pinko-commie school did you learn that from anyway? The writers of the Constitution of the United States set the document up (as well as the first Ten Amendments) so there would be a series of "checks and balances" (and I'm not talking accounting here). A way where no one branch of our government (executive, judicial, and legislative) would have greater power than the other three. But the ones who, according to our Constitution, would have the greatest power would be the people. That is why the second amendment was written. In the case our government became too powerful or oppressive, we could revolt against it and have the arms to do so. Why do you think Gore and his ilk want to disarm the people? So they can take away that basic right as well as all those others in the Constitution. Stop them now, stop them forever. In lieu of opposing opinions and posts, vote for GWB!!
James Coburn? by 60091	Oct 1st, 2000 08:47:29 AM
I really like that idea. Except he's got severe arthritis in his hands and it would be a bitch for him to reach for stuff in his utility belt and throw batarangs around.
Capriciously Calling Cutie Confirms Crazy Casting! by Buzz Maverik	Oct 1st, 2000 10:49:41 AM
"Hey! Beauteous Buzz!" "Huh?" "Beauteous Buzz? Bucolic Buzz? I can never remember which numbing nickname you have!" "Oh. This has to be Stan." "That's right, Smilin' Stan The Man Lee comin' at'cha, at yer service, in your face, up your--" "I get the message, Stan. Do you have any idea what time it is?" "It's news time, true believer--" "Look, don't call me True Believer. I don't even like Marvel all that mu--" "On pins and needles? Waiting with baited breath? Well, wait no long effendi, I'll be playing Brutal Bruce Wayne in the Batman Beyond movie." "Bullshit, Stan." "I'm pretty excited about it myself, Bummed Out Buzz. After all, who better than the man who created Batman to play him." "Bob Kane created Batman." "The needed a super-septugenarian and who was the first name that came to mind?" "Paul Newman?" "Did you know I created Newman's Own BBQ Sauce?" "That I believe."
ADAM WEST, ADAM WEST! by mad-sci	Oct 1st, 2000 11:37:22 AM
Adam West IS Batman/Bruce Wayne. The guy is not only the perfect age, he will always be Batman. This is his opportunity to ammend the stupid '60's show, and show the true Batman. So I say:- WEST FOR BRUCE WAYNE!!!!!!!!!!
WHY THE ADAM WEST IDEA WOULDN'T WORK by RightWing Dude	Oct 1st, 2000 12:13:09 PM
People would think that this story was a continuation of the stupid and embarrasing 60's TV series. While West is probably a decent man (I saw his bio on A&E a few weeks ago), his presence would discourage many people from coming who otherwise would.....Oh, by the way, since we are so big on repealing the 2nd amendment, I believe that we must repeal the 1st for similar reasons. After all, violent pornographers have hidden behind it for years and influenced Ted Bundy and most rapists. The boys at Columbine were influenced by Marilyn Manson and other Goth figures. Mark David Chapman killed John Lennon becuase THE CATCHER IN THE RYE influenced him to do it. The politicians who wrote the Constitution only wrote it in a time when certain political thought was forbidden. Not to protect pornographers................. ......Now, before you jump out of your chairs and call me every kind of fascist S.O.B. in the book, of course, I don't mean a single verse of what I just wrote. You gun-control people use similar arguments against the 2nd amendment, which was deemed so important that it was listed #2 in the 10 Bill of Rights. You guys have all been influenced by the likes of Rosie O'Donnell (who, by the way, believes that you and I shouldn't have a gun, yet she is good enough for her children's bodyguard to have one). You need to un-feminize yourself!!!
Rich men and guns by Mother Plucker	Oct 1st, 2000 01:05:28 PM
C. Butler has a point about Rosie ODonnel in fact most anti gun advocats I see on TV live in gated communities and have the wealth to put themselves on pedastals away from the harsher realities that most of us have to face everyday. I didn't own a car for years and after a hard days work (With most of that hard days work going to pay taxes for programs to help people who dont feel like working as hard as I do)I would jump on my bike and go home in the dark. I was never armed because I obviously can't keep a gun sitting about in the workplace but I tell ya, I got into some seriously bad scrapes with all the wackos out there. It was also bad going to college and walking home at night. I even saved a girl on Halloween night once from being raped by a bunch of dudes. If she had been armed maybe her life and mine wouldnt have been put in jeopardy. As it was she didnt even have a whistle on her to call for help. The friends I was with were so scared they just walked away and left me to help her.
Constitutional Scholar Day at AICN by Village Idiot	Oct 1st, 2000 04:22:09 PM
Pardon my sarcasm, but I would just like to express my outrage over spending all the money getting an education lo these many years. Obviously, I've grown lazy from thinking too freely, or I would have realized that the paradoxes of neo-conservatism (or even Liberal Enlightenment Tradition) can be addressed by simply consulting that most perfect of documents, the Constitution. Andy Travis, how dare you try to add some historical context to the argument! Post-modernist smart ass! Who do you think you are, Gore Vidal? Next thing you know, you'll be bringing up Article One, Section Two, Clause 3, etc. Checks and balances and user id indeed! But be that as it may, you must admit that the hoardes of Khymer Rouge could have been held off if only the average eyeglass wearing Cambodian accountant would have been packing. The right to instantly kill someone is inalienable; why do you think God gave us guns in the first place?
Bruce Campbell for Bruce Wayne! by Xphile69	Oct 1st, 2000 04:44:41 PM
Bruce Campbell for Bruce Wayne! ...It even rhymes.
Muhammad Ali by VB	Oct 1st, 2000 07:48:45 PM
Ali would be perfect for the role. Or is there some rule out there that states Bruce Wayne must be white?
BATMAN BEYOND by Batman_9	Oct 1st, 2000 07:58:25 PM
Wow! As the biggest Batman fan I have ever known...I must say that I thought Eastwood was best...but I never thought of Paul Newman...that could be even better! I can't wait for this film...but...I am hearing so much about "BATMAN: YEAR ONE" Is this movie happening? Or is "BATMAN BEYOND" happening? Surely Warner's isn't putting out two Batman films at once...it'd be great but I just don't see it happening.
How about..... by iconnoci	Oct 1st, 2000 10:39:02 PM
Kris Kristofferson? I know someone mentioned Payback and I figured with the way he was in that movie and even Blade.....he could portray that role. Heston is also a very good choice as the elderly Wayne. And yes, people should not condemn his beliefs regarding the NRA. It is his beliefs - if he condemned us for our beliefs and called us "idiots" do you think we would like it? The simple thing is just to say "I don't agree", not jump on his case about it. It's also funny that some people who bash gun owners will also go see movies with guns. Doesn't your belief in gun control prohibit you from seeing any form of violence with guns? But remember, the violence is done onto other people by people. When was the last time you saw a gun running up to someone saying to "stick em' up or die?" Anyway.....I gave my two cents.
Gun rights vs. who's going to play Bruce Wayne...I love this pla by Andy Travis	Oct 1st, 2000 11:32:31 PM
My little post about the 2nd Ammendment was just my opinion...no need to call me a misguided fool. Yeah, I can understand the need for protection...but America has an overdeveloped sense of that... I guess it's that whole frontier mentality...Manifest Destiny and all that...Village Idiot's post was a welcome change from all the knee-jerk guys who just posted back to call me names...anyway, isn't this supposed to be about Batman Beyond?
Adam West is deserving by Dolemite	Oct 2nd, 2000 01:58:29 AM
It would be a shame to see some old hollywood stud like Eastwood or whoever move in on a role as simple as "man behind desk calling the action" when Adam West has been waiting for this since the late 60's. C'mon, you know that old bastard thinks he's batman, give him his due. When I read the comics, his voice comes to mind whenever there is batman/wayne dialogue. Giving West the part would be Hollywood admitting they screwed this franchise before, now were giving back to the fans.
OK what about Jesse Ventura? He appeals to both liberals and con by Bari Umenema	Oct 2nd, 2000 02:37:51 AM

Sean Connery (justificaion) by Razorfist	Oct 2nd, 2000 02:45:29 AM
People have been mailing me sating that Connery can't be Bruce Wayne because he is Scottish. Well neither were the characters he played in the Untouchables (the one that got Connery the oscar), The Hunt for Red October or Highlander and everyone thought he was credible in all of those. My reasons for picking Connery is that he looks physically hard enough for the role, he is very bankable and he is one of the few actors of the correct age group that has the charisma (Clint Eastwood to a lesser extent) to play Bruce Wayne. Clint Eastwood would be my second choice (the only other acceptable choice). Paul Newman - too small and not bankable enough Charlton Heston - Would had been perfect 10 to 15 years ago but now too decrepid and commercially unviable. Shocks me tha nobody has mentioned Harrison Ford yet?
D Farina, De Niro, Billy Bob T,Keitel by Buck Pages	Oct 2nd, 2000 05:19:55 AM
Actor wanted, must be old and willing to spend hours around a film set, waiting for makeup, costume and learning last minute ajustment of a script. POW!!
(after reading ENTIRE talkback) by NUXX	Oct 2nd, 2000 05:59:25 AM
The AICN TB Village Idiots (tm) are at it again.....If i hear another Dark Knight reference in a Batman Beyond TB again, i swear i
You read the ENTIRE talkback? by Andy Travis	Oct 2nd, 2000 07:18:30 AM
geez...I feel sorry for you.
As long as they get Schumacher to direct this by Stone Cold	Oct 2nd, 2000 08:54:37 AM
Schumacher needs to direct this or it will be the suckiest suckfest that has ever sucked. Hell son, They need to have Donald Sutherland play old Bruce, and Ralph Machio (or however you spell it) as the new batman, and that's all I have to say about that. This would then be the best bat flick to hit the screens since Batman and Robin. And that's the bottom line...cuz Stone Cold said so!!!
Ok Didn't Read the Entire Talkback but.... by Elros20	Oct 2nd, 2000 10:08:34 AM
I didn't see anyone mention Michael Douglas. Come on and look at the guy. Tell me he wouldn't be perfect for older pissed off Bruce. He's a fantastic actor, his eyes have the perfect look. I will admit his voice is a little light probably but nobody's perfect. Still I think Heston is a great choice. The best choice of anyone mentioned above. Paul Newman is definately on of the greatest actors of all time, Just don't quite see him as Bruce. Just in IMHO
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