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Guy Ritchie's SNATCH by veers	Sep 4th, 2000 05:12:29 AM
Coming soon Peter Greenaway's ARSE.
Fuckin' in the Bushes by reni	Sep 4th, 2000 05:41:39 AM
Thats all I'm gonna say...
Hmmmm....I heard it's good - but only cos it more or less is L by I'mAlanPartridge	Sep 4th, 2000 05:47:53 AM
ie - a rehash of the same characters (more or less), same dialogue, same techniques, same very good movie thought to be fair. But if you make the same movie over and over again is that good or just...not good? I'll go and see it for Brad Pitt and not being able to understand a word he says - but I'm not expecting anything radicalyy fresh and new.
Guy Ritchie by IrishJoe	Sep 4th, 2000 05:54:19 AM
the boy has talent best if he doesnt fuck off to hollywood and waste it nuff said
Sounds good so far by Darth Satan	Sep 4th, 2000 06:17:14 AM
This sounds pretty good. Who cares if it's a rip off of Quint. He rips off everybody else anyway. I am a little worried about Brad Pitt, I do like most of the stuff he does. But that Harrison Ford movie sucked, and so did Brad's accent. I really hope he worked on his accent.
Lock stock and two smoking photcopiers by Kieran	Sep 4th, 2000 06:24:56 AM
Saw the thing on Saturday night. Hated every damn second. Worst film ever. Even worse than 'Legend.' Kill people you know who are thinking of parting with their hard earned cash to see this film. It would be a lesser crime than allowing any money to make its grubby way to Guy 'call me Quentin' Ritchie. Lock stock was a blatant Pulp Fiction rip off. The embarrassing Channel 4 TV series was exactly the same thing but with script ideas stolen from The Lucy Show, and now Snatch, an unintentionally tragic film with an obscene name. Avoid, avoid, avoid.
Lock Stock and Dimonds by Scott Ridley	Sep 4th, 2000 06:36:37 AM
I loved 'Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels'and much of what I liked about it has also turned up in 'Snatch';witty dialogue, brit gangsters ,ultra violence and Vinnie Jones and while this is great it is also a mild dissapointment. Why? Well for a number of reasons,one, the story isn't as well worked out as last time and way too similar, two, the film has some great laughs but some are slapstick and the dialogue just is'nt half as witty as 'Lock Stock..'. Most of all you get the feeling that Richie wanted to produce a big croud pleaser that would travel well( to America obviously) and so stuck very closely to the winning formula of L.S.T.S.B. TAKING NO RISKS AT ALL.On the bright side the commercially included yanks are mostly spot on,Denis Farina is excellent even if he could play this kind of thing with his eyes closed.Brad Pitts shamelessly over-acted tounge-in-cheek 'oirish Piker' is easily the scene stealer for the whole movie, that lad can really do comedy.Benicio Del Toro is a bit strange; its hard to know what he was trying to do with this performance, whatever it was it just doesn't come off.The most accurate way of viewing this movie is as a sequel to' Lock Stock..' and it delivers just like a sequel; more of this ,more of that, more of everything the first one had and all amounting to somewhat less overallHowever,.considering how crap this summer season has been and what little else is out there, then this movie could still be one of the best on offer.--S.R.
Snatch is tiresome by superstar	Sep 4th, 2000 06:36:45 AM
Saw Snatch over the weekend. Despite a few fancy visual flourishes it's pretty boring. Richie is limited as a writer of dialogue and the second act drags to the point where you start wondering, "Is this really worth two hours of my time?" Like Lock, Stock it's diverting (for most of the time) but on the whole it's really thin. Pitt is funny (to a point), some of the characters are funny but don't really go anywhere, some of the writing and acting is surprisingly amateurish. Vinnie Jones does well with what he's got, which ain't a lot. I got bored halfway through when I realised it wasn't going to add up to anything. Leaves you wondering where Richie's going to go next as a filmmaker. He does have a nice visual style and an ear for comedy, but it's not really enough to pay full cinema price for...in my opinion.
I fuckin' hate Pikeys. by The Guvnor	Sep 4th, 2000 07:36:24 AM
I saw Snatch last Monday at a special preview and I have to say that I thought it was outstanding. But as usual there's all these people saying "Oh but it's just like lock stock", "Oh he just steals from Quentin Chinny Chin Chin Tarantino". Well sorry but what did you expect? Did you want Guy Richie to re-make Gone With the Wind? Snatch is in short a highly entertaining 2 hours with some great indivdual performances. And as for the Tarantino thing, fuck it, everybody steals from everybody anyway.
Oi Dog Star. Shut it. You pooftah. by The Guvnor	Sep 4th, 2000 07:46:16 AM
Dog Star when your second movie makes over
"pooftah" Thems some strong words by Darth Satan	Sep 4th, 2000 08:22:26 AM
What the hell does it mean, and how do I make that cool looking L on me keyboard? I don't care what any of you limeys say. I'm going to check this one out. Maybe it will suck, but it will be fun to watch Brad Pitt thrash an Irish accent again.
STINKY SNATCH by cohol	Sep 4th, 2000 08:23:29 AM
This stated off well good actors good begining and a very funny brad pit with a good irish gypsy accent then it all just flopped in to something oh so familier his last film. funny but overall stinky
Snatch by Cazoo	Sep 4th, 2000 09:15:32 AM
Well I thought it was fabulous but then my favourite film of the year is Kevin and Perry Go Large. It certainly beats Saving Grace which I hear is doing good business in the US.
Poofters......... by 69sniper	Sep 4th, 2000 10:43:42 AM
Right, guys let me explain what a poofter is for when Snatch gets to good ol' America. A poofter, also known as a shirtlifter or a pillow biter is good old Cockney slang for a gay bloke or a homo. There ya go Cockney 101 explained......
Snatch/Snatch'd/Twat by The Equalizer	Sep 4th, 2000 10:43:55 AM
Is it really true that Guy Ritchie had the film renamed to Snatch'd because you dumb-assed Yanks don't understand the English language? I reckon he should have called it Twats and based it on life in the US. And why do you bloody Americans think you can be every nationality on the planet? Is Brad Pitt as Irish as he's pretending to be? Did Keanu Reeves live in 19th Century Sussex(England) in Dracula? No. Get Brits to do the job, they're better actors anyway!! Nuff Said.
Brit actors by Cazoo	Sep 4th, 2000 11:00:53 AM
If every actor only played his or her nationality poor old Christian Bale would never work again. Not to mention Gary Oldman. Or Jeremy Northam.
Brit Actors are best by The Equalizer	Sep 4th, 2000 11:05:00 AM
Yeah, that's a fine point, but.. Brit actors handle accents better than Americans. Richard Gere? Keanu Reeves? Granted, Gwyneth Paltrow really impressed me with her accent in Sliding Doors, but there is noone else. On our side of the pond, we have: Sean Connery. I mean, what better man to play a Russian submarine Captain. Accent - Brilliant. And in Highlander, he plays a Spanish Egyptian, blinding accent. Sean Connery mimic to perfection any accent the world is willing to throw at him!!
Brit actors by Cazoo	Sep 4th, 2000 11:14:10 AM
Granted that Sean Connery is a master chameleon who's never the same two films running, but surely you only reckon Americans can't do Brit accents because you can tell the difference. I'm sure Americans feel the same in reverse.
Brad by Cazoo	Sep 4th, 2000 11:24:25 AM
Let's face it, it doesn't matter what Brad sounds like. The acting's all in the rippling torso.
I noticed actors from the land down under... by mcface	Sep 4th, 2000 11:32:31 AM
can handle different types of accents real well. But, I'm too lazy to think of any besides: Russell Crowe, Hugh Jackman, Sam Neill, Guy Pearce, and Hugo Weaving. I don't know, there's a lot more. also, it looks like Kevin Spacey is doing a good Irish accent in Ordinary Decent Criminal, judging from the trailer.
YEAH, BUT TARANTINO STEALS FROM OLD AND OBSCURE FILMS by Robertblood	Sep 4th, 2000 12:10:23 PM
Not from 150 million dollar blockbusters that make every best film list on earth. I also missed 'Lock Stock' etc., simply because everyone told me that it was a two bit rip-off of tarantino. But maybe I'll see 'Snatch' to judge for myself.
Snatch by Sevenblacknotes	Sep 4th, 2000 01:14:50 PM
Saw Snatch last weekend and I've got to say it definitely wasn't as sharp dialogue or story as "Lock Stock...". Having said that though, Brad Pitt definitely stole the show, which was a pleasant surprise. Jason Statham's character irritated me no end...wasted!
THIS FILM IS THE DOGS' JACOBS!!!!!!!! by mrsnow	Sep 4th, 2000 01:59:38 PM
I went and saw this film on Friday, and all I can say is that it was brilliant, so much better than ls+2sb, Brad Pitt is brilliant in it, if you thought that his irish accent was crap in the Devils Own, then just forget about that, cos this is the dogs jacobs. over and out.....
LS&TSB was a piece of crap, Ritchie is a hack... by Nagual	Sep 4th, 2000 02:23:54 PM
...and anyone who would impregnate Madonna and get engaged to her needs psychiatric evaluation. OK, forget the stupid gossip and personal attacks. I seriously thought LS&TSB was horrible. Ritchie seems to think that a requisite, tired 'eclectic' soundtrack played IN ENTIRETY UNDER THE FILM and some funky lighting and camera moves = genius. His script was boring, his characters were boring, his film was BORING. The beast spawned by the Quentin in 1992/94 continues to thrash at a third-rate level in directors such as Ritchie who are gleefully substance-free while showing off their visual tricks. I have actually been distressed at how many clueless critics and fanboys have drooled over the film like it was some new breakthrough. I speculated that it might have something to do with the contingent of film fans who refuse to believe that anything coming out of the UK could be...bad? Meanwhile great directors from the isles like Leigh, Kurishi, and Greenaway get more or less ignored because they don't throw in Cocksnot Rhyming Slang and shotguns in every scene. [/rant]
Snatch was just that - a piss hole by renofloyd	Sep 4th, 2000 04:15:07 PM
Not withstanding the fact that it is a well known fact in the film community in London that Lock Stock started life as a serious movie and then Ritchie came across a gangster-comedy script by an unknown writer and then ripped off vast postions of it forcing the other project to do a major re-write (they start filming in 3 weeks - about 2 years later because of this asshole), is one thing. But Snatch was a tired piece of embarrassment. Who This Guvnor person thinks he is I don't know. But people are entitled to their opinions - Snatch was tired, badly written and dull. Obviously Ritchie couldn't find another unknown to rip off this time, so rehashed what he ripped of to begin with. This Guy is a one trick pony. The quicker he disappears off the face of the Earth and takes his efforts with him - the better.
Tarantino?? - and the rest!!! by jbreen	Sep 4th, 2000 05:15:41 PM
Apparently Mr Ritchie has stolen off Mr Tarantino lock, stock and barrel. Fnnaaarr! Well, really - as has been pointed out they are both a couple of crows so it hardly matters. But pilfering and paying homage are two very like beasts, and Ritchie has nicked some shiny bits and pieces from a whole slew of nests. (Well, I might as well stick with the analogy.) Not the least is Minder, the terrific and long running UK series. Add to this any one of those lightweight but funky UK crim series - I am sure there are overtones of The Professionals and the like in there. Same with all those late 50s, early 60s UK gangster flicks - you know the ones - they all look like they're modelled on the Krays. Oh, and I am sure there are echoes of the St Trinians films, Ealing comedies (only with more blood) and Joe Orton. It is all there, and more. Claiming that it is simply Tarantinoesque is mind numbingly daft. And claiming that a director soaking up and spitting out a range of genre and filmic nods is wrong is just plain stupid. 'Snatch' might be a little rock band film clippish. It might even have some slightly antsy dialogue. But it's a load of fun mythmaking of a mockney underworld where everyone is an evil bastard with mostly great lines, mad as a snake names and cool threads. And that's just dandy.
Just seen Snatch... by Bluedog	Sep 4th, 2000 05:28:55 PM
...and it has to be said that although it isn't as funny as Lock Stock it is a better film. The performances are better, the story is better and the visuals are better. Also saw the trailer for Pearl Harbour which looks excellent even if it's not comming out until Summer 2001. I also get the feeling that all the people that are spouting off about Richie copying Tarantino are probably jealous Yanks pissed because somebody other than an American filmmaker can make a decent movie.
Just saw Snatch'd by Skywalker,Anakin	Sep 4th, 2000 07:37:37 PM
This was a horrible movie, in my opinnion. It was a carbon copy of LOCK,STOCK etc... and that is not a good thing. There is a difference between Pulp Fiction and Lock, Stock...Pulp Fiction copied stuff and gave them a brand new light...Lock just copied stuff and that's it. Pulp Fiction did this and it pulled it off. Lock didn't. Guy Ritchie just wants to ride Quentin's sucess....Brad Pitt was wonderful on the movie, but that was it.
A few words of caution... by Scott Ridley	Sep 5th, 2000 05:10:15 AM
Having read all the talkback it seems that Guy Ritchie is going to have to think VERY carefully about his next project...
Snatch kicks ass by kid_charlemagne	Sep 5th, 2000 08:20:46 AM
Saw the film in London last night...nice to see a film before the yanks for a change. Anyway the movie is superior to Ritchie's previous Lock stock..Acting plaudits must go to Brad 'the pikey' Pitt and Alan 'you fucking caant' Ford, superb as your atypical East-end gangster cum pig farmer, a great comic turn. Particular mention must of course go to 'the dog', a fine turn by the previously unknown bull terrier 'muttley'. Very original, superb use of locations and finely choreographed film making. Not all the jokes work of course and the language is very 'arch' and at times corny, but that only seems to add to the charm of the piece. Ritchie must be congratulated. He appears to have 'made it', without much help from the British film establishment and has even spawned a series of 'Bernard Matthews' turkeys that have been given British funding. He has made actors of complete unknowns and re-discovered underused talents. Unlike the replica wielding incompetants in the film his balls have certainly not shrunk. P.S I doubt some of the reviewers on here have even seen the film.
Snatch by Ed Rooney	Sep 5th, 2000 08:45:47 AM
Tommy the Tit,Bricktop,One Punch Mickey,Cousian,Avi,Turkish,Fra nkieFour Fingers,Bullettooth Tony.. This film is very similar to Lock Stock, but with charectar names like those above, why miss it. The film was pretty good, a few scenes will have you bustin your ribs. Benicio Del Toro was pretty wasted, and fat man from lock stock didnt really do or say anything as a ginger pikey. This film was definately better than expected and miles above the shit rip-offs that have been coming out ever since Lock Stock did well. Ritchie says he has never seen Pulp Fiction, i dont believe him.
Christ, imagine the crap we'll get now ! by HowitzerJim	Sep 5th, 2000 11:03:36 AM
With such a limited range to date I don't know if Ritchie is just very good, or absolutely brilliant, Snatch is basically a remake of LSATSB, there's hardly any progression in terms of script or direction, but it's more entertaining. It's great to see a newish film maker forget all about the "standard" limits on the number of characters and plots, Snatch must have twenty main speaking part characters and almost as many plots. My problem is this; us talkbackers in the UK will be swamped with inferior London based gansta flicks over the next two years. The rest of you have probably never heard of Love, Honour & Obey, 24 Hours in London, Essex Boys, Honest, etc etc, but the UK has been subjected to them all and so many more since Lock Stock was a hit three years ago. It was also great to see Richie continuing to employ pro boxers in Snatch, in his first film he used former world supermiddleweight champion Steve Collins, briefly, and in Snatch he's got Mickey Cantwell (London flyweight, used to be British champ) and Scot Welsh, who used to be the British heavyweight champion. Also, current Commonwealth welterweight champion Scott Dixon was Brad Pitt's body double for the bare knuckle punching close up shots, and Brad himself was given some advice on gypsy style street fighting by former pro Bobby Frankham, who is as Pikey as they come. He turned pro as well, but smacked the referee in one of his first fights, and was kicked out of boxing for good !
YOU'RE ALL SO WRONG by welshlad	Sep 5th, 2000 12:29:03 PM
THIS MOVIE IS NOT A "PULP FICTION 2", BUT IT DOES FOLLOW A SAME NARRATIVE AS LSATSB. THIS MOVIE IS SO MUCH MORE AND I DOUBT THAT OZY, OR WHATEVER HIS NAME IS ACTUALLY SAW THE SAME FILM I DID. THERE IS NO QT RIPOFF HERE. RITCHIE PERFORMS TRICKS WITH THE CAMERA THAT I HAVE NEVER SEEN, IT IS AN ASSAULT ON THE SENSES, WITH BOTH MUSIC AND VISUAL. IT ISN'T ULTRA-VIOLENT, THERE IS THE FIGHT SCENE AT THE END, BUT THATS AS VIOLENT AS THIS FILM GETS, THE PERFORMANCES ARE TOP-NOTCH FROM ALL INVOLVED AND BRAD PITT ISN'T PLAYING IT TOUNGE IN CHEEK. IF YOU'VE ACTUALLY HEARD THESE "PIKEYS" SPEAK THEN YOU'D KNOW HE HAS IT SPOT-ON. THE ONLY COMPLAINT IS DEL-TORO WHO DOSN'T SEEM TO BE IN THE SAME FILM. ANYWAY, SEE FOR YOURSELF AND JUDGE FOR YOURSELF, BUT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF QT RIPS THIS FILM OFF HIMSELF. P.S. THE SONG DURING BRAD PITTS FIGHT AT THE END IS "OASIS - FUCKIN' IN THE BUSHES". AND THE FACT YOU SEE A GUYS BALD HEAD AT THE BEGINNING SERVES A PURPOSE SO YOU DONT SEE WHO IT IS TILL THE END, UNLIKE THE SHOT OF BALD VING RHAMES IN PULP FICTION. THATS ALL.
Richie's next movie ?!!!!!!!! by HowitzerJim	Sep 5th, 2000 01:10:33 PM
On the Film Four Johnny Vaughan movie show, 3/9/00) Richie mentioned his next project might be a remake of The Long Good Friday...... If that's right, well so much for the departure from making London ganster movies !
Weary of Ritchie by Lizard man	Sep 5th, 2000 01:41:34 PM
I remember hearing all the praise for LSTSB when it came out. Rented it on video, expecting another sleeper gem from Europe. And instead, I saw a very amatuerish film with some of the worst acting . So needless to say, I'll be waiting for his latest cleverly titled film on CABLE. Until then, no matter what the hype, I have no interest what so ever. Guy Ritchie must have the greatest publicist ever, or maybe he sold his soul for fame, glowing reviews and Madonna as a girlfriend. Personally, I just don't get it.
I've SEEN the movie. I AM British. Snatch still sucks. by renofloyd	Sep 5th, 2000 07:41:32 PM
Get over it my fellow countrymen. It's a big pile of poo.
Long Good Friday remake? by BabyBrother	Sep 5th, 2000 10:34:55 PM
I thought ls&2sb was a durn funny movie and am looking forward to Snatch getting to australia to judge for myself, but goddammit, why does guy ritchie have to go and say he will do a remake of a film that is perfectly alright already? in fact what is the shortest time between initial release and remake release? my guess el mariachi to desperado, does anyone else have any ideas?
Educating the Equalizer (Hope your not named after that awful U by Darth Satan	Sep 6th, 2000 01:30:42 AM
I hope no one already said this, but Snacth in American slang means pussy, so I for one understand why they might want to change the name. (I do believe that the person that posted was really just trying to throw off this talk back, and start another one of those ridicules America suck fights. So I will apologize to our American friends for his ignorance) also as someone else already mentioned, Aussies do the best American accent. The English always do the accent way over the top. Either choosing to do it New York style, or Deep South Kentucky style. Where Aussies seem to be able to do the average mid-western type accent. I guess it's their superior acting ability. Although I will admit that Helena Bonham Carter did a wonderful job in Fight Club. If I hadn't already known who she was, I would have thought she was an American.
I am also British. And Snatch is STILL CRAP!! by I'mAlanPartridge	Sep 6th, 2000 06:24:44 AM
Worst dialogue I've heard in years. All the attempts at humour were so clearly advertised by the oh-so-very-dry clever cockney mo-no-syll-ab-ic pro-nun-ci-a-tion. AHHH!! And if they told me how much they hated Pikies one more time I owuld scream. Repetition is funny. No...wait. Brad Pitt was cool as usual, and Mike Reid was good. Everyone else pretty much sucked HARD. Lock, Stock was fun - had an amazing last act. This was callous, cold, without any substantial humour and is nothing more than a stale copy. I could see the dog/diamond thing coming a MILE off and the only bit I really liked was the starting with the security cameras which was fun. So, yeah. I'm a Brit. I'm not a tit. And Snatch is shit.
All Relative by J.Utah	Sep 6th, 2000 11:24:13 AM
What was the last good, really good, British gangster movie you saw?... LockStock was OK, nothing more. It owed alot to QT and it was roughroundtheedges. It was a low budget movie yet found its audience and made its impact because it's Infinitely better than most Brit gangster movies which are gravespinning godawful (in fact better than most Brit movies about anything). I'll see Snatch and thank GuyRitchie for giving us something other than Shakespeare/MerchantIvory etc and reaching the mainstream audience.
History did not start with the founding of America by Springer	Sep 10th, 2000 11:46:18 AM
If people don't stop saying that Snatch and Lock Stock are rip off of QT films, I am about to go violently bat-shit. As someone has mentioned already, and as Ritchie himself as said, the films are intended to be throwbacks to the Ealing comedies, such as "the lavender hill mob" and "the ladykillers" and so on. Hence the farcical nature of Ritchies films. QT did not invent the "slick gangster" film and neither did Ritchie but I believe they are getting their inspirtation from two different sources

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