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Fantastic News Regarding BATMAN BEYOND live action feature

I'm first! by Theremin	Aug 19th, 2000 10:50:45 PM
...I just hope that Darren Aronofsky fits into the other batman movie (of course, if both are made, they'll be released at least 2 years apart.) Oh, well. Keep on truckin, Darren.
I am not happy with this by GravyAkira	Aug 19th, 2000 10:52:31 PM
It just does not seem right to me. Fresh was a great film but this doesnt seem like it is going to work. Oh well
third! by Theremin	Aug 19th, 2000 10:52:50 PM
...sorry for the erroneus subject back there, i guess I just type too slow. It's better than not having anything good to say, right?
Far out! Is that creepy red stripey guy with the eyeball gonna b by user id indeed!	Aug 19th, 2000 10:55:57 PM
That guy's freaky. My brain hurts. My one hope is that they have a score from "Man or Astroman". I dig those crazy bass riffs, man. Pass the dutchie on the left hand side. This has been a Stop Saying "First!", Weasels! Moment w/User ID Indeed! Pour some whiskey in yer water, man. Sugar in yer tea.
Ooooooohh!!! No no no! I know! I live action "Tenchi Muyo!"!!! by user id indeed!	Aug 19th, 2000 11:05:54 PM
Tobey Maguire as Tenchi... yes, yes... um... CAMERON DIAZ AS.. um.. wait... ooh, somebody... hold on... hmm... Ayeka! Groovy! No! Neve Camp... wait! No! Wait! Wait! No! Dominique Swain as Ayeka! Yes! Yes! Michelle Yeoh as Ryoko? Hmm... yes! No! Domin... wait! She's Ayeka! Hmm... Yes! Michelle Yeoh as Ryoko! Washu... hmm... ummm... uh... wait for it... ehh... hmm... Bjork? NO! DAMMIT! Waaaahh.. thiiink... UMA THURMAN! Yeeees! Or Jodie Foster! Or Julianne Moore! But mostly UMA THURMAN! Wooohoooo! OK, ok,... um... Kiyone... errr.... Charlize.. Gwyneth... WINONA RYDER! Yeah, man! Woo hoo! Now, Sasami..... my neice! Wait... yes! Now... MIHOSHI, my favorite character.... aaargh... um... uh... I dunno. An unknown! Yes, that's it! And Chris Walken as Kagato, and Steve Buscemi as... Kagato also! They can share screen time! Gads, how do I do it? Oh, that's right... ecstacy! Ah, sweet ecstacy... hard as hell to type with a glowstick, that's for damn sure. This has been a Moment w/User ID Indeed!... and the moniter has transformed into a giant insect! Aiiiee! Run for the bushes!
NOOOOOO!!!! ARE YOU ON CRACK, USER ID?!?! by Sith Lord Jesus	Aug 19th, 2000 11:14:22 PM
About a live action TENCHI, I mean. Why do people think that a work is only legitimate if it's done live? Just pump another 3 billion yen into the animation, sez I, and let our brains melt when it heit the screen! "Ooooooh, purty. . ." That being said, I can't wit for this new BATMAN flick. Sounds to me like they're doing their dammedest to atone for that. . .that. . .atrocity they shat out a few years back. I hope that on opening night, they cerimonially BURN all prints of BATMAN FOREVER and BATMAN AND ROBIN. Oh, Harry--can we get a GODZILLA 2000 talkback? I just caught it here in Portland and wanna rave! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT!! WHOO-HOO!!
Just to let you know... by scenestealer	Aug 19th, 2000 11:29:19 PM
Bjork will never act in any type of dramatic or comedic production again. After whe won the award at Cannes she implicitly stated that DITD would be her first and last film.
sorry "she" by scenestealer	Aug 19th, 2000 11:30:02 PM

Much better choice than Aronofsky! by John Bigboote	Aug 19th, 2000 11:40:10 PM
Congrats to the Bat-Beyond folks. You guys deserve it. Must admit I've never liked it as much as your REAL Batman animated series (the name Batman Beyond doesn't even make sense, and he looks like a hood ornament), but it should make for a kickass live action movie. I can see Lorenzo thinking "it's Batman meets the Matrix!" Whatever. Just so long as we don't have to endure some psychotic, self-indulgent indie incarnation of the Bat by Aronofsky, which could bury the franchise once and for all. Sounds like WB finally woke up, smelled the coffee, and realized it was time to give the core Bat-franchise a much needed break by going in a different and more original direction. Gutsy. Bravo. Hope that means we might also still get that Bruce Wayne tv series, which sounded like a fucking brilliant idea for a show.
chanting proudly... by X-Girls	Aug 19th, 2000 11:45:47 PM
I love that burning copies of batman forever and batman and robin idea, they should do that for publicity and to get the fans all excited. A live action batman movie set in the future? cool. Who will play Bats?? Hard to believe Dark Knight Returns isn't getting the film treatment before this cartoon. Just goes to show you how much of a hero Paul Dini and the other guy is to comic-book entertainment (off the printed page). ...I want my dollar.
mnm by X-Girls	Aug 19th, 2000 11:51:56 PM
sounds good how this is going, but I never really got into the Batman in the future deal. Hopefully, I'll soon learn why it's so cool. Batman Adventures had more noir and style and brilliance then what I saw in Batman Beyond. all well, at least it ain't shumacher shit. And I am thankful Batman is going to build steam again, they screwed up Bats almost as many times as Aint-it-cool web mail..
Well, yes, Sith Lord Jesus, I am by user id indeed!	Aug 20th, 2000 12:48:15 AM
Yay, verily! I tried to clarify that with the Three Dog Night references, but oh well. I just think it would be fun to see it in live action, is all. Just leave me to my late-night inane ramblings, and I'll be back to normal tomorrow morn, saying, "Live action Tenchi? What the hell was I on??" And then I'll remember, "CRACK!" Thank you for your concern, however. This has been a Moment w/User ID Indeed!
This means that yet another hollywood hunk will don the dark kni by lymond	Aug 20th, 2000 12:52:17 AM
So I guess we need to all specualte and advise on who we want wearing the cape and the pointy ears (nipples or not!). Personally I'd like to see someone very compitent but relativly unknown...shit, that would be me! So far, Michael Keetan would take the spot as my favourite Batman but he did get to be first...
Not that I'm complaining mind you by FenrisWolf	Aug 20th, 2000 12:54:43 AM
But I had heard on some Frank Miller web page that there was already a picture in the works with "The Dark Knight Returns" as the subject matter. That Dini and Burnett are involved in this Batman Beyond thing almost ensures that it'll be a very entertaining piece of movie magic. On the otherhand though I can't help but feel that if there is any Batman story that deserves to be enacted on film it's "The Dark Knight Returns". Never have I read a comic that makes a character live and breathe the way Miller makes Batman do in this story. Again it's not that I'm complaining, but The Dark Knight is the tale that deserves it, not the more flashy less poignant Batman Beyond thing.
I LOVE BATMAN! by baff	Aug 20th, 2000 12:59:45 AM
this doesnt mean that THE next bat movie is a live action beyond film, does it? it just means they wanna get all these scripts lay em out and see which one is the best. personally, i want good ole normal batman redone. the concept of batman beyond doesnt really appeal to me but i am yet to watch an episode (or at least one with SOUND!). i have looked aroung the internet at the different villains and they all seem to really suck. inque? the royal flush gang?? joker bikees??? I HATE BIKEES!!i also really dont like the idea taht he goes to high school. jeez louise!! can someone please reassure me that it is great and hit me over the head for evwen questioning taht a show made by those guys at wb batman animation could be less that 'holy fucking brilliant!!'. the one thing that erally interests me in that show is where everyone from the original batman ended up. a cool concept initself but if they focus on that so much, the show wont really be able to stand on its own two seats. this has been quite a bat rant hasnt it? dont get me started how i hate batman superman crossovers!!baff
What about that Ben Afflec rumor? by John Bigbooty	Aug 20th, 2000 01:06:25 AM
I hope to hell he isn't in it. That would blow the whole fuckin' deal for me right there. No way...NO how would I walk within 4 miles of a theater playing another shiiiiiiity BatMan movie. I'll watch the previews with a fuckin' microscope for ANY detection of crap. In fact, I never waisted a nickel on the last one and only watched 2/3 of BatMan and Robin out of sick curiosty on HBO. You could smell that one coming months away from release...if you stepped into a Warner Bros. store at the time and saw the preview on their big TV screens it was like seeing a 50 ft. Arnold filling his pants with own brown hershey sause and WB having the gawl to say "for $8 you can lick it up !!!" There's a huge burnt out audience of Batman fans who have just about given up all hope of seeing a decent Bat flick. Tread lightly my friends...the shite' is EVERYWHERE!! BTW John "Bigboote" is a Korean knock off of me.
Harry you really Flamed Lorenzo at the Comic Con, guess he deser by Bari Umenema	Aug 20th, 2000 01:35:24 AM
Congratulations Lorenzo, you did the right thing with hiring Paul and Alan to write the script. But Harry did have some great ideas on how to maximize the re-release of the Exorcist and for that he deserves lunch in the executive commisary -- not the cafeteria, the nice commisary where you eat!! In fact, I'd pay a buck to sit at the table next to the two of you if you ever decide to take Harry to lunch! Of course, if he's really really hungry he may just decide to have you for lunch...
FUCK YES! No Joel SchmuckMaker, No George "Facts Of Life" Cloone by darthpsychotic	Aug 20th, 2000 01:45:52 AM
Batman Beyond is excellent as far as superhero animation goes. Paul Dini and Companys storylines are often dramatic. If you like the original 1990's Paul Dini Batman (on Fox before the WB raped it and it became a...well WB show), you would love Batman Beyond, EVEN THOUGH ITS ON THE WB! Paul Dini and company managed to slip this cartoon threw the WB fuckers. For the uninitiated, Terry McGuiness(sp?) don's the IronMan-like BatmanBeyond suit. Terry/BatmanBeyond, you see IS THE LUKESKYWALKER to the elder/retired Bruce Wayne's BEN OBI-WAN KENOBI, who also serve's as Terry's/BatmanBeyond's mentor. Despite being on the WB and Terry /BatmanBeyond being a teenager this show is very mature. Give it a chance. Now the big question will be who will play BatmanBeyond? Hopefully an unknown. Lorenzo don't fuck us up the ass like that cocksucker Sam Raimi did with SpiderMan's Powers and casting a pansy like Toby. For you Raimi/Toby lovers please get off are collective dicks.
thats fine and all but... by DOGSOUP	Aug 20th, 2000 02:07:26 AM
i was hoping someone would get a hold of an awsome director whos talents would make the ULTIMATE batman beyond film: ALEX PROYAS! shit the whole cartoon is done in black and red,why not?what's alex doing right now anyway?
This is GOOD by Blok Narpin	Aug 20th, 2000 02:10:26 AM
I'm happy to hear that Dini has FINALLY been handed the reins. He CREATED Batman Beyond so if anyone can do this film its he. I'd like to see them change Terry McGinnis to a college student rather then High School. High School seems a little TOO young for him to be Batman. Nicholas Brendan from "Buffy" would make an EXCELLENT Collage-aged McGinnis. Now if only Dini and a GOOD director could get Clooney back in the cowl for another traditional Batman movie. Clooney is easily the best actor to play Batman. It's such a shame that he had to play the role in THE WORST Batman movie. With a decent script he'd really shine. By the way, lets forget the LAME idea of a movie version of "Dark Knight Returns". It'll NEVER happen. It would SUCK if it did. "Dark Knight" is a great comic but WOULDNT WORK on the big screen. Killing Joke would work much, much better.
Don't do crack, just say yes to LSD, instead! by Sith Lord Jesus	Aug 20th, 2000 02:14:58 AM
All the pretty colours. . .trees eating cars. . .Ranma-chan doing The Dance of the Seven Veils to The Beatles "Happiness is a Warm Gun". . .ah, there's nothing like it. Uh, where was I? Oh, yeah: I for one hope that after "BATMAN BEYOND" they give us "BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS." Do it nice and gritty and R-rated, like the graphic novel. But who to play the elder Batman? I keep thinking Sean Connery, but I know I'm wrong. That accent. . .just wouldn't work (and NO, we will NOT dub him). Clint Eastwood? A trifle too old. Hmmmm. Any ideas out there?
Foo, this movie's gonna bite it, T-style! by MrT	Aug 20th, 2000 03:10:09 AM
You better belee the T when he tells you dis Batman Beyond jibber-jabba is for suckas. Mr. T remembers when he was a young, strappin' black man growin' up in the ghettos of Chicago. One day, I wuz smokin' the weed hard and it done fucked me over pretty good. I started hallucinatin' that the midget livin' down the street wuz Grace Jones. Man, dat's one experience I ain't never wanna go through again. I ain't even gonna tell you foos 'bout the Cocker Spaniel I mistook for Chaka Khan. I pity da foo who done tries to stick his long donkey up a Cocker Spaniel's ass! I pity him! So remember, kids, don't be smokin' the reefer and stay away from dem comic books. Dat's a tip from Mr. T.
Bed, Batman, and Beyond... by goatb0y	Aug 20th, 2000 03:12:37 AM
What we'll have is the passing of the Alfred/Housekeeper torch to Christopher Lowell, host of Discovery Channel's popular INTERIOR MOTIVES program. He can act as the "mentor" to whatever fresh faced, NSYNC clone they hope to don in the black spandex. That way, young Batman can learn how to serve, protect, and match the proper lanoleum tiling to the draperies in the Batcave. In order to properly operate the Batmobile, Christopher could even give him some pointers in how to drive a stick..... Come on, people, it's the future! Open your mind!
Jack's Prostate, Right On MotherFucker, Right On!! by darthpsychotic	Aug 20th, 2000 03:47:12 AM
Couldn't have put it better myself!
I'll believe it when I see it. by JackBurton	Aug 20th, 2000 04:25:01 AM
Hey maybe I'm just a cynical bastard (in fact I know I am) but there have been enough Bat rumours to fill an industrial sized utility belt in the last couple of years, so until the studio officially confirms something I'll just go "uh huh, sure" and move on to the next story. **************************** ************************** ****** Now I'm as big a Bat fan as I reckon anyone on this site is, I still am thoroughly convinced that a Dark Knight Returns story is almost impossible to achieve on the big screen (the small screen as a mini series or something maybe, but not on the big screen), and I hope against hope that there will one day be a new Batman film and that it will actually be a quality film, it can be done but I won't be holding my breath to see it any time soon. On top of that I have a feeling that this rumour, however cool sounding it may well be, is going to sink faster than that whole Christopher Walken in Episode 2 thing from a while back. Hey, I told you I was cynical. **************************** ************************** **** As for Matrix 2 and 3, I guarantee you anything you want that both films are going to be bloodless pg-13 flicks, ala Mission Impossible 2. You heard it here first. ************************** ************************** ****** This is JackBurton signing off once again saying "is it hot in here or is it just me?"
How THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS should be done.... by Denny Colt	Aug 20th, 2000 04:58:18 AM
I think one thing is readily apparent to anyone who has enjoyed THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS: That to do a faithful adaptation it should be presented as an ANIMATED FEATURE LENGTH FILM. Think about it. (...and yes, I already know that they did a little snippet from BM:TDKR on BATMAN ADVENTURES. That is not considered a feature.)
Hoo Boy... by Falcon-1	Aug 20th, 2000 08:13:01 AM
Where do I start? I guess the first thing should be letting everyone know that I don't really think Batman Beyond is all that great. Personally, I have a real hard time believing that Wayne would go outside his "inner circle" to pass on the Bat; but I guess that's all supposed to be explained in Return of the Joker so we'll see. Second, while I think Dini and Burnette are great writers who have all but single-handedly made us forget about the crappy Super-Friends stories we endured in the 70s and brought honor back to super-hero cartoons; they are only the primary script writers. Let me repeat that: PRIMARY! That means there's lots of room for some other Schumacher-like stooge to mess the whole thing up. Anyone ever see that first draft of Batman: the Movie by Sam Hamm? Pretty different story to what appeared onscreen, huh? Finally, for all you geeks who think they should do The Dark Knight Returns, get a life. I know it's blasphemy to say this but there have been plenty of GREAT Batman stories before and since Frank Miller came along. Dark Knight was good; but there's alot more out there than just that. It wouldn't work as a movie because it worked so well as a comic. "HUH?" you say. The reason Dark Knight worked so well is because you had all this history built up around the whole Bat mythos. The long standing feud with Joker, the contempt for Superman, the love-hate relationship with Selina Kyle, all of it had taken fifty years to create and nurture. What have we got in movies? 12 - 15 years tops. People would be lost. They have no background on what has transpired with these characters. They remember them from Burton and Schumacher's films and (gasp) the Adam West TV show. Forget it, Geeks!! We'll never see a great live-action superhero film with ANY of the DC Comics heroes. Give up the DREAM!!
My two cents...you know what this is leading up to ...only read by Fluffy da Bunny	Aug 20th, 2000 08:13:27 AM
Hi folks, do you remember when the Batman animated show wasn't supposed to have any impact on the comic book line back when it first came out in the early 90's? Weeelll, it's not true anymore, DC recently intro'ed the "Harley Quin" character into DCU proper. Now, you ask "Why is this a BAD thing, Bunny? BTAS was a pretty darn cool show, and done better than the high majority of the comic books about the Dark Knight over his recent history, and what if anything, does this have to do with a Batman Beyond live action movie?" People think in terms of the property. Beyond establishes a "post-Batman " Bruce continuity. Everybody knows that if this had happened in the DCU continuity in comics,the fans would have gone apesh*t. "They're gonna replace Batman! My gosh, they can't do this!" and would have stormed Time Warner offices over it. But with the animated tv show, Time Warner is able to introduce a "post-Bruce Wayne" Batman continuity and get it accepted by the general public. In another six years or so,(or less, especially with a live-action movie on the way!) I believe we will see Terry as the mainstream DCU Batman. First Barry, then Hal and Bruce is next. You have been warned...
Has anybody read "Judgement In Gotham" ??? by Tempe Terra	Aug 20th, 2000 08:27:56 AM
I think that would be the perfect property for this because you could Fix the Bat's image and banish the memory of that awful stallone abomination, thereby resurrecting both Batman and Judge Dredd within the space of one movie! This concludes my fanboy fantasy for the day. Now, back to my screenplay. It's great, WonderWoman and The Bionic Woman form a meaningful relationship and become "life Partners". They fight Crime and take turns being the man. You just hear the dindindidndidndin/woopwoopwoop woopwoop sound effects as Lindsay makes a fist and moves her hand gingerly towards Linda's moist eager WonderPu.......
Ok then, lets start with the casting (miscasting?) by HolidayXxXx	Aug 20th, 2000 08:58:27 AM
Isn't about the time when all you pinheads start naming actors who are either too old or too crappy to play the main characters? Oh, how about that guy from dawsons creek be terry! Clint Eastwood as old bruce wayne! The kid from 6th sense as terrys brother! Why don't you dipshits think before you blurt out retarded suggestions, huh? and if any of you mentions goddamn jet li i swear i'll eat you all alive.
Bruce Wayne IS Batman! by Spacedog	Aug 20th, 2000 09:15:16 AM
I love Batman Beyond, but trading Bruce Wayne for Terry McGuiness?! NO WAY!! Forget about Y1 too. Use Batman in his prime. All they need is a talented actor (and looking like Wayne) for the main hole and a good script (Dini, please). Ra's Al Ghul still the last great villain, so you can put all that mithology: Lazarus Wheel, Talia etc. And finally make Alfred and Jim Gordon worthy characters. Batman/Bruce Wayne - Ben Browder from scifi series Farscape. Thalia - Catherine Zeta-Jones. Boy, she's perfect! Ra's - Sean Connery. Gordon - Sam Elliot from several western movies. Alfred - Michael Gough is good enough for me. Preview (forget about Jason Behr): http://www.comics2film.com/DCG /DCGMain.php3?f_order=2&f_dir= 1&f_artists=76 WARNER, WAKE UP!!!
Out of my Head by holidill	Aug 20th, 2000 09:29:44 AM
Well, let's see what's on my little mind today. Have only seen about one or two of the Batman Beyond shows, they were ok. As for a live action movie...ok. Casting? Why not use the actors who voice Terry(that guy fron Boy Meets World who use to bang Jennifer Love Hewitt) he's done a few films before, even though I think he's a bit older than Terry's character, or hell stick with Boy Meets World and have Rider Strong(Sean) play him. Yes the show may not have been for the fanboys out there but I caught some episodes and I liked them, hell Matthew Lawrence who was in BMW dubbed the voice of Tombo in Kiki's Delivery Service. As for Bruce Wayne, why not get the guy who did his voice in both the original cartoon and in Batman Beyond, the name escapes me now. As for Batman being replaced at DC Comics, it's happened twice, Azrael took over for him when he got his back broken by Bane, and Dick Grayson took over for him as he took a vacation to build apparently the bunkers that were used in No Man's Land which was a helluva storyline in all of Batman's comics last year. I don't think DC is going to change there most popular character, yes he is more popular than Superman now. Of course they may mess with him for a while, and maybe in 10 years or so or when they run out of ideas they may get the urge to do something different. As for Dark Knight Returns, yes it would make a kick ass film, will it ever happen. Don't bet on it. It is hard to do logistically and even if they did, Hollywood would fuck it up some how. Just be content with the sequel of Dark Knight Returns coming out later next year by Frank Miller, who after this is moving on to doing the story of Jesus...no shit! Check out Comic Shop News from a few weeks ago...
Agreed, "Killing Joke" and "Dark Knight," while BRILLIANT, would by vondoom	Aug 20th, 2000 09:59:26 AM
I want the Bruce Wayne tv show instead...damn that sounded cool...had a similar idea myself years ago....it would be both a fanboys wet dream, and very, very interesting stuff for people with NO interest in Batman. Then we would finally get a good movie (probably year one). IMHO
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Let 'fluffy da bunny' be wrong!!!!! by vondoom	Aug 20th, 2000 10:03:13 AM
You made DOOM beg!!! ;^) Bruce is Batman Bruce is Batman Bruce is Batman Bruce is Batman Bruce is Batman Bruce is Batman
LIFE ACTION?? by kingpin	Aug 20th, 2000 10:07:17 AM
i know i must sound like a complete retard but.... Are we talking about a cartoon or about a "real" new Batman movie, you know, the one that Schumacher destroyed. Well?? couse it al sounds very confusing to me.
If return of the Joker is so good, why is it going straight to v by vondoom	Aug 20th, 2000 10:07:52 AM
And why would there even be RUMOURS of a cancellation??? Despite numerous requests, no one has been able to provide a reason why this show is interesting. Granted Dini and company are great, but BB isn't canon and they shouldn't be making a live action film of it. Hope this rumor is bs.
bookending Batman by MADMIKE	Aug 20th, 2000 10:39:27 AM
this is interesting news, since i enjoy batman beyond. The idea that this could be a great sci-fi/action film gives me chills.But the problems start from there. first i find it kinda strange that they are going to attempt to launch two franchises with different versions of the same character. Second, will the WB show there ass's and prove once and for all that they have finally achieved the status of bloated money hungry suits and drop one franchise in favor of another if one does do slightly better than the other. Why else would they do a year one Batman; and an introductory Batman beyond feature. To me they are dipping there toes in the water before going for a swim. It's something to think about anyway.
I still think Long Halloween would make a great Batman film! by y2N	Aug 20th, 2000 11:02:12 AM
That could easily be adapted to film (albeit a long film)and could be great if done properly (those fateful words many a comic fan have said but so often been denied).
I'll believe it when I read it in Variety by Spacer X	Aug 20th, 2000 11:27:27 AM
We've heard this "Paul Dini is writing the new Batman movie!" shit before and it never turns out to be true, even though he would be the best man for the job. But why don't they let him write a Bruce Wayne Batman movie, with some elements of "Beyond" thrown into it if they're dead set on modernizing it, like the techno suit with boot jets and retractable glider wings, but still BRUCE WAYNE, not some ultra-hip teenager.
Dear Fluffy... by Falcon-1	Aug 20th, 2000 11:43:39 AM
I have been a comics fan for almost 40 years. I like to think I have some expertise in the field. I will admit I do not understand why writers make the choices they do beyond just to shake things up and get a little press time. I can give you many reasons why Hal and Barry could be killed off without the same impact as killing off Bruce; but I think the comic's speak for themselves. Hal and Barry did not have the same univeral appeal that Bruce has. Since Crisis, there has been this misunderstood shock-factor in killing off certain characters. When they killed Supergirl, Green Lantern, and The Flash, it was to portray how honorable and unselfish these characters are. Giving their lives in the fight of good verses evil has been a standard of writers since ancient Greece (or before). But the idea of killing off Bruce (let alone just having him slip to a support role) has complications that aren't just limited to the comics but would impact the very commercial structure of the myth itself. Bruce Wayne will always be Batman just as Clark Kent will always be Superman. There are just some things that don't get messed with. Sure, they've done it in Batman Beyond but that wasn't nor will it ever be considered mainstream no matter how many multi-million dollar films WB releases. The idea Batman Beyond will become mainstream is as crazy as thinking that Superman was going to stay dead. I think you're post at best was nothing more than alarmist speculation. If this were the case, they would have had Bruce pass the Bat-mantle down to Dick Grayson years ago. The whole Azreal debacle proved that fans will reject anything that seems to be a permanent change to the characters mythos. I'm sorry they killed off Hal and Barry; personally, I thought it was a bad idea. And now, with Hal becoming the Spectre, pure lunacy. At one time, it seemed that Marvel was the only place where characters died and stayed dead. I guess Jean Grey proved them wrong on that one. I look at Batman Beyond like I do Miller's Return of the Dark Knight: just one more possible future for our beloved character. While it's not labeled as such, it's just another in the Elseworlds series.
YES BADASS, YEAH!! by XTheCrovvX	Aug 20th, 2000 01:10:06 PM
My god...Warner Brothers actually did something...::gulp:: SMART!! I was wondering when Dini would get the respect he deserves, and now we get it...finally...life is gooood...:-) Now, guys...im not kidding now...ive got my X-Men movie...Spidey's on the way..the universally praised Batman Beyond:ROTJ is coming...i just need one more thing to die a happy man....live-action Akira...get it done...put Alex Proyas or Fincher in the director's chair, and get an absolutely badass script in their hands....pronto...that means NOW, damn you!! Revolution is my name...
That Puddy Guy Is Superman! by X-Girls	Aug 20th, 2000 02:10:11 PM
I dunno who should be The New Batman o' The Future, but is there anyone who disagrees Puddy from Seinfeld should be Superman??? They never had a superhero look exactly like the character until now. I watched a Newsradio a while back and it was so obvious, it hurt. They should make a new Superman film just for this guy if there's a great script to go with it. That would give comics a huge fuckin kick. By the way kids 'Sith Lord Jesus' said to take LSD over Crack, I say take Grapefruit juice over LSD! over n' out
DarthPsychotic: by Wungolioth	Aug 20th, 2000 03:03:37 PM
Well, your one comment about no sidekick could be moot, I believe I've been seeing a promo for Batman Beyond:ROTJ that says something about him not being alone anymore, suggesting that they'll be giving him a Robin/Batgirl to work with, and considering that this character might be in the Batman Beyond animated series long before this movie goes into production, they could end up throwing him/her in just to keep in line with the series(nobody said this was going to be an origin story, yet.)
Yakin is No Slouch by simonyam	Aug 20th, 2000 03:34:19 PM
Just in case some of you are scratching your heads about Boaz Yakin being selected for this honor--the man IS a comic book nut. He is currently writing a comic for DC Vertigo, and on a DC coming attractions page, he talks about his comic book jones, and about screwing up the Punisher. He wrote the script--and the studio and director trashed it. So not just the Beyond guys, but Yakin are in on this--all comic book guys. This could be good.
I think the first thing is a cool tradition only if you have som by sciyth	Aug 20th, 2000 05:06:48 PM
FROM THIS POINT ON YOU ALL WILL REFER TO THAT NEON GOTHOM NIPPLED BAT SUIT MAKING ARNOLD COCK SUCKING PUTTING ALL THE BLAME ON GEORGE CLOONEY MOFO AS JOE SHOE-MAKER...THE CAREER GOD INTENDED FOR HIM BEFORE HIS DAD WON THE LOTTO AND COULD AFFORD TO SEND HIM TO THE ACME SCHOOL OF HACK DIRECTION. THIS TRADITION WILL BE HANDED DOWN FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION TILL THE END OF TIME!!!!!!!!
Brian Denenhy should be Bruce!! by enigmainyourhead	Aug 20th, 2000 05:25:18 PM
Clint Eastwood is too damn skinny!
Why? I'll tell you why... by superninja	Aug 20th, 2000 06:03:06 PM
WB couldn't get Batman right, so they went and made their own crappy TEEN FRIENDLY version of Batman. Who cares about a Batman Beyond film when they can't even get the REAL Batman right? They are wasting Dini on the wrong material...sad.
Batman should be set in the 30s/40s by superninja	Aug 20th, 2000 06:12:55 PM
Get Brian Hegeland to direct and Curtis Hanson to write. No stupid gadgets -- just an insane young man who dresses up like a bat because he can't cope with the death of his parents. Have Bruce out getting his ass kicked for awhile before he gets a solid victory. Batman vs Organized Crime (the Roman) and show how Batman sort of creates these villains that keep popping up. The "Wow, a real superhero in town, I bet I could take him out" mentality. A whole host of villains could be given cameos in the end -- a seguway into sequel potential. It would be like Year One crossed with the Sopranos with some Long Halloween thrown in, and it would ROCK!!!
ANOTHER SHMUCKY MOVE by drac999	Aug 20th, 2000 07:33:35 PM
Well, this sure sounds like the work of that useless turd DiBonaventura. Release a "BB" movie straight to video and then pour 100+ mill into a live-action movie of the same. Gee -- now I understand why WB execs get the big bucks. If this info is true, it almost makes me yearn for the dog days of Semel and Daly. Good christ. This is just what Bat-fans have been yearning for -- a computer-enhances, sci-fi'd version of a kiddie cartoon starring some pre-pubescent pretty boy out of Dawson's Creek. Batman should be dark, noir-ish, and gritty -- not an outlet for some horny teen girl's wet dream. A few weeks ago, I got hold of that "Joker's Revenge" script and it would serve WB in good stead to give it a second look. And as for the choice of director -- Yakin hasn't made a commercial/compelling flick since he graduated from film school. This is a waste of a billion-dollar franchise and WB gets what they have coming if they go thru with this half-assed production.
Harry's BATMAN BEYOND report complete BS! by Fabio2	Aug 20th, 2000 10:16:12 PM
So, according to Harry, Warners are working on a live-action version of Batman Beyond (with Boaz Yakin, Paul Dini & Alan Burnett), an adaptation of Year One (with Darren Aronofsky et al) AND the Bruce Wayne TV show. DOes not anyone else see this for the complete BS that it is? Do you really believe there that Warner Bros. are working on 3 varying versions of Batman at the same time? It's complete and utter nonsense. As we've heard time-and-time again, the next Batman film will be an adaptation of Year One, that has not changed, and I doubt that it will. As such, all this BB crap is just that - crap!
If this was a regular BATMAN I'd be thrilled... by Kikstad	Aug 20th, 2000 10:34:53 PM
..but personally, I wasn't one of those people yearning for a live action BATMAN BEYOND film. It's gotta be Bruce Wayne behind that cape and cowl. Batman Beyond works fine as a cartoon, but I'm still waiting for that perfect live-action adaptation of the REAL Batman. Maybe someday...
Yay, I'm First!!! by Cowblaster	Aug 20th, 2000 11:07:19 PM
This IS great news, even though I'm not so giddy about a live-action Batman Beyond film. Sure, it'll be cool and all, but I'm just not in a big rush to see Batman Beyond in live-action just yet. This means we won't get a chance for a NORMAL Batman film to be made for a good while if they start focusing on this franchise. Oh, well. HEY! If this does well, maybe they'll let Paul Dini and Alan Burnett do the SUPERMAN movie! That would totally kick ass! Yay!
Setting all this Straight... by Darth Brooks	Aug 20th, 2000 11:13:32 PM
First, consider that it's a WB theatrical release - therefore, it will be a MESS. It won't be the long prayed-for YEAR ONE or the impossibly-perfect DARK NIGHT RETURNS. This next cowflop will be an even-more brightly-costumed spandex-fest with more growed-up TV stars and one or two Big-Named Statues, like Van Damme or Denzel. WB Pictures won't alter their live-action franchise from the established plaque of awful Batfilms of the past decade. ----------- Sigh. You know what would have been cool? Paul Newman as Miller's Dark Knight. Dang. And Nick Cage as the Clark Kent cameo ("50 Million Die By Fire - - if I am weak...") That's what tears it for me.
But that's the whole point... by Fluffy da Bunny	Aug 20th, 2000 11:49:26 PM
You're missing the point. The reason Az-Bat failed to make an impact was due to the fact that hardly anyone outside of the comic reading public was aware of it. The Terry-Bat is all over the place, in toy stores, in WB stores, in his own self-contained continuity comic and on tv..I mean, good or bad , the audience for the tv show is more than reads the comics. Who's got the bigger audience? Less than approx. 100,000 copies sell of even the highest selling mainstream comics these days. The average age of a comic "fan" is mid-30's. I'm guessing that most of the Batman Beyond audience is signifntly younger. Right now, the US has the largest under 18 population since the 60's. These kids are growing up enjoying the Terry-Bat, to them he will BE Batman, not Bruce. When they grow up, and become creators like comic writers and artists (if those occupations will still exist) this Terry McGuiness will be THE "Batman" that they will want to do. Whether the older comic book fans raise a stink or not is irrevalent to the WB. Financially they account for a very, very small percentage of the "total" Batman franchise, and by that time, they will be much fewer in number (if the average "fanboy" age is approx. 34 now, how many do you think will still be alive and "actively" collecting?) Look, what do you think Marvel's doing with the "Ultimate" series? It's the same thing:keep the old fans happy and complacent with the familiar-while you intro "new" versions. If the new versions take off,phase out the old. In five years, the newbies won't know who the old heroes are. (I remember three-four years ago,a writer telling me about a guy pencilling for DC who had no idea who Hawkman was! Hope that's changed now, with the new series. I miss the Earth 2 JSA:(
Why does Batman keep getting YOUNGER? by angry	Aug 21st, 2000 12:34:04 AM
I mean, he's been getting progressively younger all the time... Now there's a rumor about Ben Affleck doing this shit in the rubber costume? Christ... Next we'll have that kid who's playing Harry Potter doing a Batman stint 3 years down the road.
Why Batman keeps on getting younger.. by JackBurton	Aug 21st, 2000 02:20:53 AM
Thats easy, he's a time lord. Doctor Who? Doctor Batman, thats who. Or something. Um, cheque please.
Jack Burton's Dead On..... by The Founder	Aug 21st, 2000 03:10:51 AM
about all the Bat rumors floating around ,so like him until I hear conformation from Warners I'll take this with a grain of salt. I thought I was the only one that thought the Matrix sequels would snag a pg13 rating with the first doing as good as it did. Why do you ask?.... because unlike the first Matrix Warners did'nt cash in on merchindise. I read that they tried to market some of the stuff, but none of the companies were intrested. So I'm betting when these sequels hit we're going to get flooded with everything Matrix from toys on down and we all know that studio's being as greedy as they are is not going to miss out a second time around. I guess we can all figure that an R rating will limit the kids and teens on the flick and hell without the kids they can't sale their toys and fast food tie-ins. Now I could be wrong, but i read someplace that the Matrix was Warners highest grossing movie(it could have been for the year not sure though)so you can believe that Warners is going to be taking a more active role in the production of this movie. The Wachowski's said themselves that Warners pretty much gave them complete control of the Matrix ... with the biggest limits being to sticking to 60 million budget and the release date not being anywhere near Episode1. So it looks like we may be getting a watered down Matrix 2&3(less violence,guns,and swearing. At any rate lets all prey I'm wrong,but don't be surprised if this turns out to be the case.
Squidfartz... by Fabio2	Aug 21st, 2000 03:19:37 AM
So, 4 different Warner Bros. departments are working on 4 different live-action Batman adaptations? What complete rubbish, don't mislead people by spreading that sort of crap.
A Batman Beyond Movie!!! Now Thats Music To My Ears..... by The Founder	Aug 21st, 2000 04:32:18 AM
if it turns out to be true? I'm all for a BB flick...the cartoon is the best on with Superman 2nd(well was on)and with Dini scripting the movie should turn out kick ass, but hell I thought the live action Spawn would be great since the guy that wrote the Curse of Spawn comic series did the script for the movie and we all know what that movie turned out to be. Personally I perfer the Terry/Batman I like the new concept of the Batman for the future and Terry's a strong character and having Bruce as a mentor for him is perfect and no I don't belive he's become a supporting character. To me he still has a great presence even with him sitting on the side lines.I'm sorry guys I never could get into the cartoon or the comic of the oringal Bruce/Batman(I tried to like the cartoon but it just didn't work for me and their never seemed to be a jump on point in the comic)but Bruce/Batman is one of the best characters out today. I know Batman's history and all but the most exposure I get of him is from the JLA comic and the BB series. I think it could be safe to say that BB is going to be the next Bat flick we see, because Schumacker and Clooney are both still attached to the Batman movies and I read some where that it could cost Warners between 30 to 40 million to loose these two and not including that Schumacker could sue Warners as well but they'll only have to pay Clooney if they went with another actor. Also consider the fact that B&R left a bad taste in fans mouths that only at least a decade of not seeing a Bat flick could wash out and add to the fact that Warners is going to have to pay off Clooney and Schumacker before they can do a Batman....so they figure it'll be better(not to mention cheaper) if they kick off a new franchise with BB...that way they'll be starting with a clean slate and have a chance to fix all the mistakes they made with the Bat franchise,but at the same time still retain the popularity of the Batman name. Warners already started off on the right foot by attaching Dini and Burnett to the project(not sure about this director though)and if there're really smart they'll cast Wes Bently as Terry/Batman and this is all I'm saying on this matter until conformation that this movie is getting done from Warners.
Future isn't what its cracked up to be. by DMS01	Aug 21st, 2000 05:56:36 AM
Frankly until this article came out, i didn't know that Beyond was going become live action flick. Frankly i think its a mistake. Batman Beyond only works in animation form, because its set in the future. You know how hard it would be to come up with new stuff to keep Batman Beyond going and keeping under budget? You know they won't be able to use stupid popular culture jokes, like Clinton jokes etc etc I think this is the wrong direction for Batman to go. I wish they'd take character down the road we wanted to go. Its bad enough 'Beyond''s Batman will soon be weighted down by a new Robin and Batgirl. I'd like shoot idot who keep putting these stupid sidekicks to support a character thats suppose to be alone detective. Arrgg. Besides Joel who living in 60s, over doing the sidekicks and villians is what really killed franchise, but there too many yes boys who run WB to truely their heads together and fly right. If beyond survives to be made, it will bomb in second movie, because by then, side kicks will be added.
BATMAN SERIES IS PURE SHIIIITTTTT!!! by revam	Aug 21st, 2000 06:36:02 AM
just another money-making scheme. Only idiots pay for these kinds of movies. Hollywood's really running out of ideas.
WILL BATMAN HAVE LONGER CHIN? by minquig	Aug 21st, 2000 06:41:25 AM
they keep having longer and longer chin each time. Anyway, if that's the case, then Jay Leno should be the next Batman.
Well, looks like I was wrong! by Fabio2	Aug 21st, 2000 07:49:14 AM
Looks like Harry was right and I was wrong. I'm big enough to admit it. Paul Dini has confirmed that what Harry has reported was spot-on. Sorry for doubting you Harry. However, I haven't heard that Warners plans for Y1 have been shelved, so is it conceivable to have two live-action Batman films in the planning? Can anyone answer this?
I hate Batman Beyond!!! by Sammy Shoeshine	Aug 21st, 2000 08:08:02 AM
i loved the batman series that was on before that, but batman beyond is just...not batman. if they make a movie based on this sub par show, itll probably be worse than the last 2 batman movies combined!
... by X-Girls	Aug 21st, 2000 08:14:01 AM
Was it ever broke here that X-MEN is coming out on DVD on November 26th and Bryan Singer wants to go and shoot the Storm and Cyclops background shots just for the DVD now? Apparently, it's true. This DVD should kick @$$
Batman Beyond is not cool at all by X-Girls	Aug 21st, 2000 08:26:13 AM
it's dumb. How about--he's a teen! like Spider-Man was! That's what they're doing with the Uncany Xmen too on WB. Get an imagination. "Coming up next on the WB, another bad show that no one will see-e-e-ee" -The Simpsons WB frog. I have faith in Paul Dini and crew in everything but Batman Beyond. Someone mentioned above making a live-action SUPERMAN feature film with them. Another Superman finally getting made would be great, seeing him fly and having it look real. Get 'Puddy' from Seinfeld! Who Else!?? Imagine a Superman movie like that. It can't get cooler.
Jason Behr IS Terry McGinnis by Drath	Aug 21st, 2000 08:40:05 AM
Okay some one had to start the nutty casting choices, although Behr isn't so nutty IMO. I expect Ronny Cox should get the part of Derrik Powers/Blight, and in a perfect world Clint Eastwood would play the ancient Bruce Wayne. But in the end, I'm very excited by this news about Paul and Alan. I hope that it all comes together, but I also hope it doesn't mean we'll never get a JLA show out of them. I want more of their animated gems! Oh yeah, and to all the Batman Beyond haters, YOU'RE ALL WRONG SO SHUT THE FUCK UP! Okay, that was immature and oafish but dang it felt good.
my2cents by G$fresh	Aug 21st, 2000 10:26:37 AM
BB live action movie=bad idea. I agree with the others who believe they have yet to get the Bruce Wayne/Batman movie they deserve. The players in the "project" sound exciting but they need to focus on a BATMAN movie. The Year One idea sounds great. Dark Knight Returns movie? = Listen, IT WOULD NEVER WORK. I gurantee that even if you could hand pick everyone you wanted involoved-there's no way it would ever live up to your expectations. Let stories like TDKR and Killing Joke remain as wonderful graphic novels. It's the only way to truly enjoy them. The best versions of those stories are the ones played-out in your imagination as you read them. Getting back to BB. It's important to remember the these "geniuses" of the animated series write for the cartoon. I'm not convinced that it would translate to an intelligent movie. Think about it-the writing IS for animation audiences. It's the LOOK of the shows that really gets people's attention. And if heaven forbid this is true
Toby Maguire Makes A Perfect Spiderman Because He Is A Pansy! by Buzz Maverik	Aug 21st, 2000 11:29:36 AM
Peter Parker was a pansy, a wimp, a wuss, whatever you want to call him, but inside he was tough, brave, confident and adventurous. His spider powers allowed him to bring out these sides of his personality. If Toby were a tough guy or a stud, he'd be all wrong. This is the way the character was conceived and this is why it is a well-conceived character. After Ditko, artists came along that couldn't draw a character that wasn't heroic or even particuarily good looking. Another illustration of how comic books are all redundant after about issue #24.
Beyond vs Dark Knight by dougmac	Aug 21st, 2000 11:48:18 AM
Batman beyond is a cheap gimmick that really isn't that good, but the Return of the Joker could change that with the explainations of what happened in the past- we know Babs is commisioner but who knows about anyone else. Also, wouldn't a Nightwing series be cool. Dick Grayson is a great character that should get his own chance to shine, but maybe without the ponytail, the comic is great. Also Return of the Dark Knight is said to feature Flash, Green Arrow, Wonder Woman but I haven't heard anything about Dick GRayson. Carrie Kelly Robin Is in but what about the original. He's still alive because Gordon asks about him in the original, and Tim Drake and Jason Todd have both since been added to the family. Any word??
The next Batman movie... by r_dimitri22	Aug 21st, 2000 11:50:04 AM
...should have Steve Martin playing the villainous King Tut. Only then will it have the potential for greatness.
testing by rossimus	Aug 21st, 2000 12:45:18 PM
1.2.3.
NO Damnit!!! Not this! We need the real Batman! Not This (nm) by Jeebs	Aug 21st, 2000 12:46:16 PM
I said No Message damnit! B-)
BAT SCRATCH FEVER by Kentucky Colonel	Aug 21st, 2000 01:25:31 PM
Alan Rickman....Ra's Al Gul. Nuff Said.
whom sholc play batman by jedikiller	Aug 21st, 2000 02:18:55 PM
terry should only be played by one guy...... WES BENTLEY,, he is perfect guy to play terry mcginnes. bring back michael keaton to play an older wiser, wrinkeled batman. there you have your movie. also adding bruce cambell, and rick baker would help!!!
Random Batman Casting by superninja	Aug 21st, 2000 02:50:38 PM
YEAR ONE: Viggo Mortensen as Jim Gordon; Chloe Sevigny as Selina Kyle; Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker; Some-Unknown-Australian as Batman. CURRENT CONTINUITY: Jason Issacs (The Patriot) for Ra's Al Ghul (he's not supposed to be old, remember?); Jason Patric as Bruce Wayne/Batman; Six-Feet-Under as Robin (tee hee); Helena Bonham Carter as Talia; Ed Harris as Commissioner Gordon; .
ultimate bat casting by sundown	Aug 21st, 2000 03:22:29 PM
alright tim curry as the joker (he was gonna play him in the cartoon before Hamill!)Alec Baldwin as the bat (hey the utility belt will now be for MORE than show)River Phoenix corspe as Jason Todd robin in a cameo and Winona Ryder as a female robin with D'Onofrio as Nightwing (although he'd say he is too good to do it) and we can bring back ol Joel to direct it...it could be called SHADOW of the Bat...hahahaha then we wouldn't have to deal with anymore crappy sequels. Actually they should have put the live action stuff into Dinis hands a while back but I would much rather see a regular Batman film...throw this thing in the future it will cost so much...I don't know...here is a real cast that could work I think Ed Harris as Gordon BINGO! Catherine Zeta Jones as Catwoman, Batman Russel Crow...expensive and trendy yes but it is his work in the insider that makes me want to pick him...just think of the slightly older bulky scarred batman, Joker Gary Oldman more serious Joker with Eliza (Faith) as Harley... Bane Temuera Morrison This would rock the house and make Bane vs Batman cool physically and you would have two actors that can really play off of each other especially if they push each other...they both can do rage. I make Odonnel Night Wing cause I think he and that character work. I kill Robin off in Jason Todd and I would cast the kid who played Richie in the Highlander tv show cause he can do noble and brash and it would be hard to watch him die...the new robin should be an unknown...that is my cast more or less...at this point enough people know the mythos that you can skip the intros probably...BUT I DO think they might need to start adapting stories like the Dark Knight cause making them up hasn't worked at all...they just end up formulaic garbage...but which story to adapt?
Face it: Robin sucks. by superninja	Aug 21st, 2000 03:30:47 PM
Robin makes about as much sense as Bucky Barnes. It was a GIMMICK to draw in teenage readers back in the day and today it not only doesn't make sense, but also makes the hero appear irresponsible! Captain America with a teenage sidekick in WWII?! Hello! I know teens fought in the war, but a man with Cap's morals just wouldn't have it. Same goes for Batman. Unless you want to show him as a guy who is REALLY off his rocker by having a little boy run around with him while bullets are flying. No, NO, NO!
"Communism was just a red herring!" by Miss Laid	Aug 21st, 2000 04:07:52 PM
I have to say I love the idea of Curry as the Joker (I made it through the whole of Oscar thanks to him), but I like Hamill's Joker too. Batman: The Animated Series was IMHO one of the best cartoons ever, along with Scooby Doo, Dangermouse, Spiderman, Flintstones, He-Man, Transformers, Inspector Gadget, and X-Men (Did I miss any?). Now, I bet some of you are going to disagree with me on that last one, but I never read the comics and I wasn't too impressed by the film. No Gambit? No Beast? No fair!
Yep, I did miss one... by Miss Laid	Aug 21st, 2000 04:15:47 PM
The Racoons! What, you disagree? How can you not love Cyril Sneer? C'mon, at least admit the theme tune was cool.
Don't do Batman Beyond!!! by Publius Varrus	Aug 21st, 2000 05:05:35 PM
This is not a good idea. Just give us the best Batman movie that you can. Beyond is a great cartoon but remember the foundation that it's built on. The animated series was great before the sequel series, emulating the Denny O'Neil 70's stories for the most part, sans the Neal Adams art. A real batman movie is needed and a Beyond movie wouldn't have the broad appeal, nor would this Bruce Wayne series I keep hearing about. Of course I'd watch both, but I'm just one old Roman sword-maker.
Batman: Doomed by DMS01	Aug 21st, 2000 08:20:29 PM
Frankly sooner or later the way DC allows Warner Brothers fumble with the franchise, Batman will be doomed. Beyond is a dead end, where will it go from here? As i read in IGN.com's report for up coming season. Batgirl = black chick, robin, possibly that tough runaway kid who Batman rescued one recent episode. Along with return of Justice League, with new people and one old one. Aquagirl, Green Latern's latest Successor, and old Superman, to name a few.
Thank the maker! by FaithInGeorge	Aug 21st, 2000 10:39:57 PM
This is wonderful news indeed! This could really be a great Batman film as long as they stay loyal to Dini and Burnetts vision and cast well! God, who could be Bruce Wayne? Paul Newman? Clint Eastwood? Charlton Heston? Who??? As for Terry McGinnis...Wow, could be anyone...I just hope it's as great as I know it can be! This could be what we need to get a SERIOUS Bat-Flick like a Year One or The Dark Knight Returns!
wachoski bros. suck! by halloweenie	Aug 21st, 2000 11:02:49 PM
they've sucked from the beginning and they're still gonna suck because they spend too much time ripping off John Woo, Ridly Scott and James Cameron (world taken over by machines?). They Suck they suck they suck. I can't wait till everyone else wakes up and realizes that. By the way, awesome news, Harry.
Grow up Fartsquid by Fabio2	Aug 22nd, 2000 03:25:11 AM
You're only fooling yourself buddy-boy, and you're having trouble even doing that.
Batman Beyond and Sidekicks...... by The Founder	Aug 22nd, 2000 05:14:58 AM
If the powers that be read this please do not flood the animated series with sidkicks...it would be a bad idea to do this, because Terry/Batman hasn't even set up a fondation for himself yet and he doesn't have as big a following as the orginal Batman does(not yet anyway)to allow us to accept the notion of a sidekick. Now I would accept seeing future versions of DCU heros in the show as long as its not over done, and please for the love of "GOD" no Batgirl,Robin,and other DCU heros (though I know Warners wouldn't do this)in a live action BB movie. Another thing I wish all you babies would stop bashing BB and be grateful that we're getting a Bat flick in the first place... hell I'd love to see another Batman movie, but as I mentioned in an earlier post Schumacker and Clooney are still attached to the Bat franchise and Warners would have to buy them out which would cost millions so this may be the reason that we'll get a BB flick first. I still have faith that another Batman will get made....maybe the contract that Schumacker has with Warners expires after a certain number of years and this could be what the WB is waiting for before relaunching the Bat franchise.
a word about robin and BB by sundown	Aug 22nd, 2000 09:17:40 AM
Its true they will have enough trouble introducing a new and old batman and villians leave out robin batgirl and other heroes as they hav ehad trouble in the past even introducing these elements with out clutter...let alone a whole new world...only cameos would be cool for this stuff...I think it could work and it has better people on it than last ventures and thats a good point about shumacher and I hope thats the case. As far as Robin goes there are 3 stories that might change your perspective...one is the two part origin of Robin where he sneaks out on his own to solve his parents death and Batman realises this kid will either kill or be killed if he isn't taught properly...also the 5 part intro to the current dcu robin that is in trade. In it the kid is a computer nerd obsessed with vengeance who hacks the Bats computers and figures out he is Batman...he invades the cave and demands to be the next Robin. Briuce is so messed up with the death of the previous one (addressing his irresponsibility in Jasons death) he wants nothing to do with it. Eventually he will only let him work as Robin if he can take care of himself...so he steps back and funds a little trip where the kid will train with the people who taught the bat...in the course of the story he learns martial arts from a half dozen people in different styles and actually beats the crapout of the deadliest martial artist in the world...it is really coolin that the character matures and proves himself to be an equal PARTNER of the bat...that the thing about Batman and Robin...they are the ultimate kick as steem...without Robin Batman is a lunatic out of for blood...just my two cents which isn't even worth that much but check out those stories and consider the fact that Robin was maybe the only cool character in the last two movies...A 17 year old martial artist Robin could kick ass and give the story a lethal weapon team feel...
On Robin and the Batman Franchise... by superninja	Aug 22nd, 2000 10:39:13 PM
First of all, is Batman really about punishing criminals, or punishing himself? The guy gets his ass kicked in the comics all the time (the good ones at least). It always comes back to the death of his parents, and how he can't let it go. And yes, the Robin story can be good, but then it becomes the "Robin Story" doesn't it? Where are you going to squeeze Batman in there? I'm just saying I don't think it's reasonable to try to squeeze it all into a film, and to make an attempt (without being corny or taking your audience for granted) to place these secondary characters into a film. All of these characters revolve around Batman, so maybe they should just start there and really work hard to make the audience fall in love with the character. Once they've taken it as far as they can go, then he takes a backseat and they add secondary characters. THEY HAVE YET TO DO THIS. Every film (including the casting hype even) has revolved around the villains.
no dount every film has revolved around the villians or stupid s by sundown	Aug 23rd, 2000 09:03:28 AM
I agree with this but I think the fault lies in the projects as they were put together not the fact it is impossible to have more than batman in a story...the villians were always handled poorly...poor Walken whatta WASTE of a talent...they were characterized wrong and they got way to big actors who had no ability and brought nothing but name power...the first was good because it was a good movie but I still think in some cases keeping it simple can't hurt and I won't say multiple villiand is a great idea it can fail but only with Batman people already know the characters so it won't be that hard to have a Robin in there, plenty is explained already and I always liked the two man team dynamic...hell it is Batman and Robin, light balancing out dark...without Robin he isn't just punishing himself he is fullout nuts...my fav stories being when Robin died and he wigged out and how the new Robin had to win him over and actually save him...I think a film can be big enough for 2 hero characters...Shumacher just never "got it" in the end we're getting BB anyway so we're both screwed...oh well...
WHY BATMAN BEYOND? by Batman_9	Aug 28th, 2000 01:28:58 PM
Hey, I like Batman Beyond, it could be a cool moive, but, please, give us a REAL Batman film about BRUCE WAYNE and his adventures as the Dark Knight. Please give Batman fans one more big Dark Batman moive with the style of the first two...redeem the horror that was BATMAN AND ROBIN. Save BEYOND for future generations, but do let Alan and Paul write the new one. We need someone who not only knows the Batman, but LIKES him.
WHY THE FUCK NOT? by Orcus	Nov 1st, 2005 12:27:44 PM

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