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That liar... by Jeff B Demented	Aug 11th, 2000 04:05:36 AM
Well, well, well. Mori has done it again. He lies to me...then he...um...LIAR!
Booyakasha by JmanZ	Aug 11th, 2000 04:28:42 AM
French Actress? Hmmm... LAETITIA CASTA anyone? and for the record, Jet Li can't act but damn, the boy can throw down. aye.
Older French Guy? by KP	Aug 11th, 2000 04:53:25 AM
For the love of all Bullet festivals...if the Wachowski's are to keep this in the realm of the uber cool, then please cast Jean Reno.While the rest of the cast has to do back flips with guns to lookd dangerous, Reno just has to pick one up and point it. Oh and my vote for the young sexy french creature?..Virginie Ledoyen...Why ?, just look at her for criminys sake.Commander Lock?..why not complete the homage and in-joke and use either Bruce Boxleitner or Jeff Bridges, cos say what you like fanboys but Tron got there first 18 years ago, come to think of it, someone should get their finger out and port that Criterion laserdisc from a few years ago onto DVD already and make my christmas.toodlepip
I agree Vanessa Paradis would be awesome in MATRIX 2 as the Fren by GEEKBASHER 3.0	Aug 11th, 2000 05:05:55 AM
The Girl on the Bridge Kicks ass, go see it, she is stunning! The cinematography is to die for! COOL FLICK!
COMMANDER LOCK by Miss Aura	Aug 11th, 2000 05:21:01 AM
I think that Robert Carlyle, would be brilliant as Commander Lock. Vannessa Paradis would be good as the french girl, with Jean Reno as the older man. The Kid should be played by a newcomer, but make sure the acting is way better than Jake 'Yipeee' Lloyd. And great news that JET LI is cast, Should be KUNG FU-TASTIC.
Vanessa Paradis? by Al Mariachi	Aug 11th, 2000 06:11:00 AM
Harry, how can you (rightfully) bash Tea Leoni in your intro to the last JP3 scoopt and DEMAND Vanessa Paradis (talent free zone) to be in the Matrix sequels? The fact that she's french doesn't make her a better actress.
Van Damme!! by samscars	Aug 11th, 2000 06:15:27 AM
Please cast Jean-Claude Van Damme as the french guy and save his long crappy carreer! Uh, wait a minute...it's too late. His carreer is dead. Oh well.
Vanessa Paradis? Thou kiddest me! by Kieran	Aug 11th, 2000 06:31:49 AM
Let's be honest, like ever heterosexual man in the world who has ever seen Vanessa Paradis, I worship the cells in the back of my retina which allow me to see her. Hell, I'm sure that I could replay every single scene from that 'Be My Baby' video of a few years ago in my mind. She is perfection but, and let's be clear about this, don't ever pretend she can act. Hot little Eurobop songstress does not equal actual talent. I have more faith in the acting skills of Britanny Spears.
That Fat Slob Sean Penn Is "seeing" Vanness Paradis AKA The Fren by darthpsychotic	Aug 11th, 2000 07:15:48 AM
Don't get me wrong, I loved Sean in TAPS, Bad Boys and of course Fast Times but after that it's been downhill from there. His "beating up" photographers makes him all the more ASININE.
OOPS! That was Virginie Ledoyen, who is "seeing" Sean Penn NOT V by darthpsychotic	Aug 11th, 2000 07:19:55 AM
I am so stoned right now.
a future where the French survive!?!-who saved their asses this by rossimus	Aug 11th, 2000 07:48:03 AM
So we have Keanu, Jet Li, some French actress who will be cast for her"stylized"looks, and an 18 year old named "Kid"....will there be any words in this movie with more than one syllable?
Non, non, zee Franshe are LOV-airs, not fight-airs! by uh_Clem	Aug 11th, 2000 10:09:30 AM
When invaded, we do not roll over onto our backs in fear--we just want our bellies rubbed, non?
exactly how well grounded are you Dog Star... by rossimus	Aug 11th, 2000 10:16:55 AM
...when you use Keanu's band name as your talkback ID...Let me guess,you mean the astronomical one right, it's just coincidence, sure, I beleive you.
rossimus/Doggie Style by Anton_Sirius	Aug 11th, 2000 10:43:56 AM
It's not outside the realm of possibility, you know. And of course it's always possible that Dog Star is really Keanu hisself. I was positive I spotted Kevin Spacey in a TalkBack once- I mean, it sounded JUST LIKE HIM. Oh, and Vanessa Paradis is a terrible, terrible actress. Please no. Virginie Ledoyen is a little better, but come on, we're talking about a FRENCH WOMAN here. They're all hot. Finding one who can act too (like, oh I don't know, Julie Delpy) shouldn't be that difficult.
Jet Li by CRM114	Aug 11th, 2000 10:51:48 AM
What's with the Jet Li bashin' here... the previous gung-ho xenophobe jerk-off I don't even count. I'll bet you guys have seen like, two Jet Li movies-- probably Lethal Weapon 4 and Romeo Must Die, right? He's never gonna do a dramatic role sure, but he's got charisma and even a bit of range. He's a better actor than Arnold or Sly and well... Keanu... sure, I know he's easy to pick on. Check out Fong Sai Yuk and Swordsman II, then watch Tai Chi Master, and then try to recall LW4, no need to watch it again unless you got a free copy with your DVD player. He can emote a relatively wide variety of emotions just fine, and he's got charisma to spare. And he'd look great kicking fanboy ass for making snap judgments in a failed attempt to justify their self worth.
jean reno and jet li? by sundown	Aug 11th, 2000 11:04:46 AM
Put the two oif them in a film and I'd be there. Jet might not be that great an actor but he has presence. He can make that wire work look cooler than anyone else and if he had a big budget american film to work with (the wire work in romeo was cool but still not top shelf) he could kick ass and show us more than the glimpse we got in Lethal Weapon 4. Put him in with Jean Reno who could even make that turd Godzilla watchable for the few minutes he was in it and you have magic. I hope they Wachowskis are as big a fan of Besson as they are of the Hong Kong films so we can see this happen. Also does anyone know what is up with Jet Li and Bessons project?
Hamlet this ain't by rossimus	Aug 11th, 2000 11:13:02 AM
So stop bitching about Jet Li's acting abilities.This is an ACTION?FX movie, like I said earlier, it will be the easiest dialouge to write since the last Rocky movie.
Yummy!! by XTheCrovvX	Aug 11th, 2000 12:24:32 PM
...so far, looks like they're gonna be pushing the envelope again...and im looking forward to it...but, you know, im with the guy above me....how the fuck do french people get all these fucking breaks?! One woulda thought that an agent would've been nice enough to wipe the floor with em all.....except for Jean Reno...."he was fuckin' harsh..."....Revolution is my name
More news: There will also be a teenager character in the film t by EL Duderino	Aug 11th, 2000 12:36:53 PM
Just read this from Dark Horizons. I don't get the whole french casting thing. if the film is taking place like 200 years into the future, wouldn't their accents fade?
Jet Li the actor by ThereIsNoSpoon	Aug 11th, 2000 01:00:02 PM
Once Upon a Time in China I and II. (Not III - VI. They weren't as good and IV and V didn't even have him in it.) That's all I have to say about Jet. Cuthbert51 - I hope that rock you live under is comfortable because that decreases the chances of you coming out and bothering the rest of us when we go see anything that's not American.
dammit! by Al Mariachi	Aug 11th, 2000 01:05:07 PM
Okay, so I take back my comment from above. MORIARTY wants Paradis, not Harry. That doesn't make it a better choice though.
Whoa.... by DudeNYC	Aug 11th, 2000 01:12:47 PM
I know football.
Don't forget about Tcheky! by RangerDanger	Aug 11th, 2000 01:29:30 PM
While I love Jean Reno, let us not forget about another very under used, yet fantastic french actor. TCHEKY KARYO Sure he's done some crap in the past (Wing Commander) but he is a damned good actor.
lame! by 'borne Spore	Aug 11th, 2000 02:51:51 PM
matrix 2 is starting to sound lame!!!!
Anne Paurilaud by ThereIsNoSpoon	Aug 11th, 2000 02:56:20 PM
Since people are throwing around Jean Reno's name, I'd like to bring up the movie that most of us Pre-Leon fans remember first seeing him in as Viktor The Cleaner. And in it was this badass chick who proved her action chops, is still drop dead gorgeous, and is now old enough to believably be Morpheus's old flame, and is a damn fine actress to boot - Anne Paurilaud, the ORIGANAL La Femme Nikita.
techno music should be banned.... by TedSallis	Aug 11th, 2000 03:20:21 PM
Was I the only one who wasnt that impresed with the Matrix? The camera work and effects were awesome, yes. But so is a ride at Universal Studios. I just feel like it had no story. And as far as a sequel goes, they're streching an already thin concept.Also, techno music should be banned from sci-fi films.
French actors... by EmperorCaligula	Aug 11th, 2000 03:38:52 PM
Oh well, stop mentioning BAD frencha ctors/actresses, when they're good one too. Vanessa Paradis and Sophie Marceau(Braveheart, TWINE) can not act. Period. Even in french movies, they're definitiely bad. I know it's mostly action, but why cast them, or Tcheky karyo. Or mention Depardieu whose ego is overinflated since he went to Hollywood. Yes perhaps aren't they worse than keanu is and can they be good in the movies. I think Anne Parillaud could indeed do good job, as Julie Delpy; plus they can act (see Delpy in 3 colors:White, great!). cast any bad american actor there, but please the french who will be in will be far widely known after Matrix than before. I don't want to see the bad ones becoming world-wide famous, when good ones could be. And for Van Damme: he's a total moron, he is belgian, and he cannot even speak french but only mumbling, letting some french mixed with mostly english words coming out. If the french guy isn't young but rather in his 50s, and you want a badass, why not try Richard Bohringer (assuming the part isn't too physical due to the age of the guy). If you want young ones, take Vincent Cassel or Albert Dupontel for instance. The choice is bigger than you may think...
What's the big deal by OWNERX	Aug 11th, 2000 06:08:56 PM
What's with everyone's hard-ons over the Matrix? Is there any one else out there in the universe that thought the original Matrix sucked?
Jet Li is the most over-rated hack in the business by HolidayXxXx	Aug 11th, 2000 06:09:42 PM
He cant act. I've seen a few of his flicks. Black mask, lethal weapon, my dad even had some of his old hong kong crap. I don't even remember the name of. His lines are delivered so FAKELY. Not to mention, he LOOKS like an arrogant asshole. I just wanna slap his non-moving emotionless face. And i aint scared of that jackasses supposed "martial arts". everyone knows movie martial arts and real fighting are vastly different. if he came to my house lookin for trouble, you can bet your ass i'd send him home in stitches. Cause i'm bettin i've been in more real fights than his clean cut chinese ass has ever been.
Julie Delpy by Enge\|	Aug 11th, 2000 10:04:28 PM
I agree with the fact that Julie Delpy is pobably the best product that ever came out of France (on the chicks side of course). She would be simply brilliant in the matrix and she is still looking ofr that big break that never seems to come out. Her various performances proved her talent. Damn! She even managed to put some life in that lame-o Americam Werewolf in Paris.
I'm curious, Basherkills.... by IAmJacksUserID	Aug 11th, 2000 10:40:14 PM
What exactly in the Agents' dialogue was so 'subliminally racist'?? And what the hell kind of action films do you like? If you think of Matrix as nothing more than a very well done action film, which it is, you would see that many of your complaints are rendered pointless.
While I'd personally love to see Jean Reno in the part... by JackBurton	Aug 11th, 2000 10:43:05 PM
...As I've been a huge fan of the guy since his early Besson work in films like Subway and The Big Blue, not to mention his later cool as hell work in Nikita, Leon and films like Ronin and Mission Impossible, but the word on the grapevine suggests that the man in talks for the role is Tchecky Karyo, who most recenty starred in The Patriot with Mel Gibson. I'm not saying this is what is happening, just what I heard. Hopefully someone else can confirm/deny this.
no longer pertinent but...something for John Q. Hull by kojiro	Aug 11th, 2000 10:56:36 PM
Posting this here because the last TB seems pretty much defunct. I am most definitely not a Christian. I consider myself a deist. Just wanted to clear that one up as I would quite dislike being associated with any organized religion(for reasons not to be gotten into here). As to your comments on lightbringer: you call someone a moron for clearing up what you either did not mention or did not know? My, aren't we feeling classless today.
To HolidayXxXx by J-Dizzle	Aug 11th, 2000 11:42:40 PM
What? You beat the crap out of Jet Li? BWWAAAA HAHAHAHAHA! You're either extremly stupid, or you're just trying to be funny. If you think for one second that a geeky nerd like you who spends his time reading news on The Matrix on another geek's movie website can beat the crap out of Jet Li, then you are sorely mistaken. Yeah sure, I'll agree that you can be a better actor, but the only way you're ever gonna kick his arse if he was already dead!
I Could Play "Kid!" by Cowblaster	Aug 12th, 2000 01:50:07 AM
YEAH! Lemme do it, PLEASE?!?! I wanna be an actor, too! I'm 20, and I could pass as 12 if I had to! Oh. . . wait. . . Keanu's gonna be in this, huh? Nevermind.
Mysoginist much? by Rain_Dog	Aug 12th, 2000 02:06:17 AM
I hate to seem like the sensitive new-age guy here, but have you lot noticed how much you refer to women as sluts, bitches and hos? If you call Vannessa Paradis a slut, it doesn't mean she is, and it certainly doesn't mean she'd fuck you. Why? Cause she's fucking Johnny Depp, and he doesn't sit at a computer all day picking his acne. Go out and meet some actual women for christ's sake. And I know this will receive plenty of responses along the lines of "Man, I've fucked more bitches than you can imagine, in fact I'm doing three right now!" To this, I respond preemptively; "Dream on, fanboy." BTW, Anne Parilaud was a good call, whoever said that, as is Tcheky Kario. Although Jean Reno is the coolest motherfucker ever to have lived.
by Rain_Dog	Aug 12th, 2000 02:08:19 AM
The 'bimbo' from the bond movie was Sophie Marceau. Nice Cuckoo's Nest reference in the animated thang, Harry.
Thank you Rain_Dog!! by Aeon Flux	Aug 12th, 2000 03:54:06 AM
Thank you for bringing some sanity and respect for women in this talkback...it's appalling to find pathetic nerdboys having no respect for women whatsoever...
HEAR HEAR RAIN DOG! by J-Dizzle	Aug 12th, 2000 05:05:21 AM
At last, somebody who has the balls to confront those wet dream geeks. The sad thing is, no matter how easy it is go out and meet new people (and of course women), they never seem to get off their arses and actually do it!
La Matrice 2 ;-) by gyr	Aug 12th, 2000 08:28:10 AM
Pascal Greggory ('morpheus2' ;-) + Chiara Mastroianni
Angelina Jolie by Despr8t	Aug 12th, 2000 10:34:09 AM
I will not be seeing the film if Angelina Jolie is in it. Man I cannot stomach her.What a flake. Vanessa Williams is my vote for Morphius(s) squeeze.
Michelle Yeoh for Niobe!!! by RooC	Aug 12th, 2000 04:34:31 PM
Who else thinks this is a kick ass idea? The kung fu thing is immediately taken care of, and she has amazing screen presence. Either her or Angela Bassett, but I think Michelle Yeoh would be more interesting.
Grace Jones for Niobe! by Tumbleweed	Aug 13th, 2000 12:00:05 AM
The only woman alive who could kick Neo's ass from New York to Zion and not break a sweat. Then again, maybe she'd make a great Agent - the upgraded model, of course!
Irene Jacob et Charlotte Gainsbourg! by METHOS	Aug 13th, 2000 02:55:10 AM
Both are incredibly talented and can speak english well, especially Gainsbourg. Ledoyen was alright in Chabrol's "La Ceremonie," but that film belonged to Isabelle Huppert and Sandrine Bonnaire. I'm just saying I haven't seen Virginie Ledoyen really stretch herself, but then again, it is really hard to keep up with contemporary French cinema while living in Illinois. Example: I just saw Jan Kounen's "DOBERMANN" last week instead of three years ago. Wonder how many inches of dust are on top of it at Miramax? I was surprised. It's more like Alex de Iglesias than Besson.
TO HAN SOLO by HolidayXxXx	Aug 13th, 2000 05:42:54 AM
Strong arguments, coming from someone with the nick "han solo" i'm the nerd here? right...
So if this is true then surely... by Spicka	Aug 13th, 2000 06:26:31 AM
So a young, fit, hard, fit chick then... well the area is a little dry today but surely Angelina Jolie has got to be a favorite. She has all those characteristics, and to boot she was in HACKERS!! I guess though a cult status movie of such proportion doesnt really want the forth comming Lara Croft I guess though. But who else could play such a part? The hard sexy attresses dept. seems to be pretty dry right now! Saying that though Mira Sorvino (the chcik from THRE REPLACEMENT KILLERS) did a good job in that movie. She was wicked in JOAN OF ARC as well. Okay so she doesn't have the same appeal (you know what I mean) as Jolie but to come back to the tomb raider thing... heheh So cult status movie requires a older, french guy. He will wanna be hard yet intelligent. So can anyone see that as NOT being Jean Reno? No! Moving on... 40-ish leader type guy then. Gabriel Byrne? The priest from STIGMATA and the cool guy from USUAL SUSPECTS. Maybe even the psycho geezer from PITCH BLACK could be considered? Okay so he ain't that old, blah blah blah... but the voice(!), the size of the guy, his attitude... basically him in PITCH BLACK would be pretty fucking mad man! He could make a good replacement to Agent Smith perhaps otherwise? And finally for the few that are questioning the casting of Jet Li. Lets consider breifly the cast of the original. Now with the exception of Fishburne & Joe Pantoliano... we have Carrie-Anne Moss, Marcus Chong, Julian Arahanga, Matt Doran (from an Australian soap I ask you?!), etc... now with all due respect each of their respective experience pre-matrix was pretty thin man and I am being generous with that! You can argue but check it out on imdb.com - I shit you not! And then of course Mr Anderson. Now Keanu the old boy has done a few good things but at the end of the day, heh, he ain't that great. Then the MATRIX comes along and wham! he is great again! Now the Wachowski's know what they are doing don't they and if they can make Keanu a legend then maybe they can get Jet Li to act. Prettu thin yeah, but look at what they got out of the original. Lets hope...
JET LI? by henryhill	Aug 13th, 2000 04:17:47 PM
Jet LI sucks, sure he can fight, but can he act? I think not. Matrix hasn't gto the best acting in it, but the best thing about it was kick ass action, kick ass story line and kick ass actring int eh context in what it was needed. Keanu and co did'nt seem like Kung Fu experts, that is why they were so neat, Jet Li? I kick your ass......
LOL by Dar2000	Aug 13th, 2000 06:03:34 PM
HolidayXxXx.. You know you crack me up. Especially since you think you can beat up someone who studied martial arts since a kid, someone who has world titles to his name, someone who practices hours everyday. You know any martial arts at all? Oh Yeah I'm sure you can also kick Bruce Lee's ass too. ROFL. Hang on.. you can probably kick Jacky Chan's ass too. Oh and Sammo too huh? I'm sure you go out enough everyday to beat up some lame punks on the streets for experience. LOL
Mysogony and homophobia in Los Angeles . . . by ThereIsNoSpoon	Aug 14th, 2000 07:17:14 PM
I think the implication is that anyone who has no talent is a "ho" or if male a "fag" because they had to sleep their way to whatever position they achieved. Hollywood being what it is, this is not a preposterous assumption. There are plenty of folks WITH talent that have had to do some unsavory things to get to where they are. This is sad but certainly doesn't justify the name calling.
bossh0g you're my hero by billie1	Aug 15th, 2000 05:18:22 PM
Bossh0g is a virtual pool of knowledge when it comes to these HOLLYWOOD insiders...maybe he should see about suggesting MACAULAY CULKIN for the role of THE KID. I hear he's recently detached and looking for work...or so the HASBEEN department says.

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