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Obi Wan Is One With The Force, Feisal's in Cordoba, and Nicholson Has Blown The Bridge

Shocked by Hamburgler	Aug 6th, 2000 08:55:03 PM
I was truly shocked when I read this. I hadnt even thought about the man much until i read the news.....If anyone will be missed among fanboys, it will be him....rest in peace Alec....forever
:( by sws	Aug 6th, 2000 08:55:54 PM

Nooooooo.... by Faeton	Aug 6th, 2000 09:03:19 PM
ooo... Dammit... I'm pretty upset about this.. Alec rocked hard in Bridge Over River Kwai. Hell, Alec rocked when and wherever he was. May the Force be with him always.
................. by krackato	Aug 6th, 2000 09:09:23 PM
I can't find the right words. He was just so amazing. Godspeed Sir Alec Guinness.
Damn it. by Cassius the Evil	Aug 6th, 2000 09:12:20 PM
Well, this bloody sucks. Why are all the really cool people dying off like this?
i'm envious by L'Auteur	Aug 6th, 2000 09:16:03 PM
wouldnt it be nice to be dead?
I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine by Jedi 7	Aug 6th, 2000 09:22:19 PM
Just heard the news and it deeply saddens me. I will miss his acting presence and the contributions he made to star wars and all his other movies.The entertainment industry has lost a great presence today, and I along with many other fans will miss him dearly. His legend will live on in my memory, may the force be with him.. Allways....
may the force be with you, Obi-Wan by Tall_Boy	Aug 6th, 2000 09:28:21 PM
Of all the actors to grace the SW saga, he was peerless. he was certainly the most defined actor of the whole series, and a whole generation will remember him for it. He'll go down in the books. I'm going to watch Star Wars again tonight, and just enjoy his performace. We'll miss you Obi-Wan, and may the force be with with.
Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter... by PoxyVonSinister	Aug 6th, 2000 09:29:41 PM
Damn, part of my childhood just died. I knew in my heart he didn't have long to go, and honestly, some of his thoughts about the trilogy lately made me more than a little sad. But he'll always be Obi-Wan, daring Vader to strike him down, urging Luke on to Dagobah, telling Luke he must face Vader again. He was dignity, wisdom, and power, despite his outward appearance. If there's any justice, between the Lucasfilm logo and the "A long time ago" at the start of Episode 2, there'll be a "For Alec" in there somewhere. Thanks for helping me see the stars, Obi-Wan.
Burning Candles by Tao Of Dumbass	Aug 6th, 2000 09:33:11 PM
Goodbye, Sir Alec Guinness. Goodbye.
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Pips Orcille	Aug 6th, 2000 09:33:20 PM
Oh god no! Bridge on the River Kwai was my favorite Guinness movie! Shit, dude. This is depressing
He's not dead....not yet. by Darth Brooks	Aug 6th, 2000 09:35:52 PM
Amazing. We lived in the time of the great actor Sir Alec Guinness. Think of being able to tell your grandchildren that. Truly a Knight to remember.
" Strike me down and I shall become more powerful than you can p by Wheel99	Aug 6th, 2000 09:37:38 PM
The only thing I can think to say is that I am numb. If it wasnt for his presence in the Star Wars movies my Parents wouldnt have taken me to see it opening weekend. I remember my father seeing his name in the paper and saying to my mother," Well Alec Guiness is in it. How bad can it be." He lended grace and elegance to any project he touched. The next time I watch Star Wars it will be with a heavier heart. I am going to miss him.
Fare Thee Well Sir Alec... by JackBurton	Aug 6th, 2000 09:38:04 PM
As I posted on another forum not long ago: If you hadn't heard Sir Alec Guinness passed away on Saturday night. Best known for his roles in Bridge On The River Kwai (for which he won the Oscar), Lawrence Of Arabia, Doctor Zhivago, TV's Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and Smiley's People, Kind Hearts And Coronets, Oliver Twist and of course as Obi Wan Kenobi in the original Star Wars trilogy of films he was an accomplished actor the likes of which will never be seen again, and with his death it appears that his particular generation of great British theatre and film actors (which included such legends as Sir Laurence Olivier and Sir John Gielgud) has sadly come to an end. **************************** ************************** **** Sir Alec had a quiet but emotionally impactful acting style that brought a quality and depth to his every role, and his sheer presence onscreen was achieved with seemingly little or no effort at all, however always had an impact on audiences, even in his lesser supporting roles in his later years. ************************** ************************** **** According to Sir Alec himself "An actor is an interpreter of other men's words, often a soul which wishes to reveal itself to the world but dare not, a craftsman, a bag of tricks, a vanity bag, a cool observer of mankind, a child, and at his best a kind of unfrocked priest who, for an hour or two, can call on heaven and hell to mesmerise a group of innocents.", it seems to me that Sir Alec Guinness was all of those things and more. ************************** ************************** ****** His passing is truly a sad day for film fans everywhere, and while he will be missed his legacy, as with all great artists, lives on. Jack Burton, signing off the Pork Chop Express with a moment of silence for the passing of a true great.
Goodbye Mr. Guinness by Luke Warmwater	Aug 6th, 2000 09:41:53 PM
As a Star Wars fan, I was a little troubled by his bitterness toward the film, and its fans. Nevertheless, I admired both him and his work. Whether you liked us or not, Sir Alec, we respected you, and we'll miss you.
Why do the good ones have to go? by Jopapa	Aug 6th, 2000 09:45:50 PM
It's all I can say. Man, this sucks.
So long old friend. You will be missed. by islander	Aug 6th, 2000 09:48:10 PM
After seeing Alec Guiness in Star Wars I started watching many of his earlier movies (I realy liked the Eling comedies). That gave me early exposure to movies other than sci-fi and monster movies. A million thanks for expanding my world Alec.
What have I done? by PreludeTheory	Aug 6th, 2000 10:08:00 PM
Bridge Over the River Kwai shall always be my favorite Guiness film. So sad to see another genius pass...
The Ranks are Thinning... by Monty Python	Aug 6th, 2000 10:08:38 PM
The actor Sir Alec Guinness has died in hospital at the age of 86. The veteran film star of numerous Ealing comedies and Star Wars passed away at the King Edward VII Hospital in Midhurst, West Sussex. A hospital spokesman said that Sir Alec had died on Saturday night. He was one of the last surviving members of the UK's greating acting generation, which included Sir Laurence Olivier, Sir John Gielgud and Sir Ralph Richardson. Just two months ago Sir Alec attended Sir John Gielgud's funeral in Wotton Underwood, near Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire. Sir Alec was taken to hospital by ambulance on Thursday from his home in the village of Steep Marsh, near Petersfield, Hampshire. Jenny Masding, a consultant at the hospital said : "Sir Alec Guinness died very peacefully in the Macmillan Unit of the King Edward VII Hospital." She would not confirm the cause of Sir Alec's death. Ill health A Hampshire Ambulance spokesman said: "We received a routine call on Thursday evening from his GP and took him to hospital. "It wasn't an emergency call," he added. Sir Alec had been suffering from ill health for a number of years. He had chronic glaucoma and had undergone cataract surgery to restore his vision. Ronald Neame, the director of Great Expectations and Oliver Twist, acclaimed Sir Alec as one of the all-time greats. "He taught me more about acting than anybody else I have ever met or am likely to meet," he said. "He was like a chameleon - he became the character he was playing." Christopher Sinclair-Stevenson, Sir Alec's former publicist and agent, said: "This is terribly sad news." He told the Daily Telegraph: "I know Alec had been ill for some time and his wife is not that well either. He was a marvellous actor and will be sorely missed." Star Wars The actor, whose career covered 60 years, was famous for his role in the Ealing comedy films. His performance as the Colonel in Bridge On the River Kwai won him an Oscar and led to his knighthood in the same year, 1959. But to anyone under 30 he was probably most famous for playing the part of Obi Wan Kenobi in 1977's Star Wars. It was, however, a role he said he disliked, throwing away all Star Wars fan-mail unopened. Sir Alec married playwright Merula Salaman in 1938 and the couple lived well away from the spotlight. They had one son, Matthew. (Beeb)
Not so bad... by FortysevenBTEG	Aug 6th, 2000 10:09:24 PM
I'm rarely sad when a great one dies at such an age. It's the completion of the cycle of life. That doesn't sadden me. It's when someone gets their life cut short by something, like with Gene Siskel. That's saddening. So raise your glass up high and smile that the man has moved onto better things, having completed his work here. :)
Dammit, I hate this by user id indeed!	Aug 6th, 2000 10:16:49 PM
Tomorrow I'll have to say goodbye to Zeno too. Moment.
Damn...can't even think of something to put up here... by Acid_Rain327	Aug 6th, 2000 10:19:06 PM
I had heard the news before having come here, and the shock still hasn't wore off. Words cannot describe this man's talent, grace, honor. He's a rightful legend, one that will live on no matter where he may be now. Like most of you here, my first exposure to his work was "A New Hope"; and from there, I was compelled to see more of his movies - he's phenominal, indescribably gifted. In fact, his work is one of the most prominant reasons I decided to aspire to become a film maker; to work with someone as incredible as Sir Alec, would be a true gift. I wouldn't even be as interested in cinema, if it weren't for this man. Thank you for everything, Sir.
Time to rent some of his classics. . . by Sith Lord Jesus	Aug 6th, 2000 10:20:36 PM
. . .and sit down to revel in the works of one of the greats. Godspeed and may The Force be with you, Sir Alec. Were I Lucas, I'd have starwars.com in mourning colors, for at least one day. It's the least one could do.
What the hey?!?!?!? by Krang	Aug 6th, 2000 10:23:07 PM
I thought Alec Guiness died a couple of years ago...sheesh! Well, considering I already thought he was dead, this changes very little for me, although I was devastated a few years ago. I wish someone had told me he was still alive.
If you want to honor the man go rent BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI wh by Regis Travolta	Aug 6th, 2000 10:23:41 PM

****************NO...THERE-IS- ANOTHER...**************** by darthpsychotic	Aug 6th, 2000 10:23:52 PM
...Ewan McGregor. In his later years, Sir Alec Guinness was characterized as being a brooding alchololic, depressed over his being synonmous with his Obi-wan/Star Wars character and its accompanying shadow. Sir Alec Guiness, of course, is much more than Star Wars, anyone who was even heard of Lawerence Of Arabia or Bridge Over The River Kwai can attest to that. Obi-Wan's cantina scene where cauterized the forearm off of the alien thug who was bullying Luke, showed how much Obi-Wan was a badass as Obi-Wan was a wise Jedi-Master. Obi-Wan's final scene in A New Hope was where he faces his former pupil, Anakin/DarthVader, we are shown simultaneously how Obi-Wan makes up for his "creation" that is Vader BY his sacrificial "death"/becoming one with the force, so that Luke and the others are able to flee and fight again. At the End of episode001, during the magnificent Light Saber Duel (which along with Anakin's goodbye to his mother and Anakin's podrace made episode001 a great movie) when EWAN MCGREGOR as Obi-Wan, gallantly duels and slays Maul after his Jedi-Master, Qui-Gon Jinn himself was slain, we are given a touching and subtle retrospective on Sir Alec Guinness's Obi-Wan and A New Hope's Obi-Wan. NO...THERE IS ANOTHER... Ewan McGregor.
His talent is with us... always by jorson2	Aug 6th, 2000 10:23:53 PM
Star Wars, George Lucas said, was always about exposing the young to the spiritual and inspiring questions about not only right and wrong, but the forces at work in our lives that define those boundaries. That has been the goal of much of great art throughout history - to make us think about things beyond our everyday, and inspire questions about God and about "that undiscovered country, from whose bourne no traveler returns." In both Shakespeare's play and Lucas' children's movie, Sir Alec Guiness helped us ask those questions about "the force" that surrounds all of us and will ultimately escort all of us to that undiscovered country, as it has the legend as of last night. Good bye, Sir Alec. Now, truly, "the force" will be with you... always.
"I can't believe he's gone..." by Kikstad	Aug 6th, 2000 10:26:32 PM
Sir Alec will always be Old Ben Kenobi to me. He will be deeply missed. May he rest in peace. The Force will be with him...always.
by SithScorp	Aug 6th, 2000 10:31:40 PM
Sleep well good Sir. Thanks be to you for your everlasting gifts to the world.
Too bad he hated Star Wars... by 0007	Aug 6th, 2000 10:33:25 PM
He was such a fabulously great actor, one of the best. If only he had not so detested one of his his greatest roles. I at least wish he could have lived to see the upcoming remake of the Lavender Hill Mob to gauge whether he thought it does any justice to the original...
"Oh, my God; what have I done?" Hats off to Colonel Nicholson. by Uncapie	Aug 6th, 2000 10:56:18 PM
"Bridge On the River Kwai" will always be one of the greatest films to be remembered especially the performance by Sir Alec. Sadly, the great actors are leaving us with no one to take their places. Thank you, Sir Alec for your performaces. Long may they live on the silver screen.
A Giant of the Screen by Mr. Mike	Aug 6th, 2000 11:01:31 PM
His work will be remembered and loved by generations to come. Goodbye Alec; we loved ya.
You know the feeling... by Paco J	Aug 6th, 2000 11:05:56 PM
when you hope and pray for a legend to live long enough for you to get famous, just so one of the things you can do is meet them? And THANK them? Sir Alec was one of those people to me, and I'm REALLY bumming out right about now. Folks, read his book, BLESSINGS IN DISGUISE, and his two journals. You won't know everyone he's talking about, but it's a great ride. I suppose I'll meet you eventually, Sir Alec, but...ahh shit. That's it. I'm off to smoke a bowl.
No, actually...I think he DID hate it... by Monkey Lord	Aug 6th, 2000 11:11:55 PM
From what I understand, I despised making the movie... mostly because of Lucas's directing style, I think. The actors were to do 'one thing one way...' which didn't leave much leeway for the actor to explore his character. That, and he hated the dialogue. I think he called it "rubbish" at one point. :) Bottom line is, the man disliked the star wars phenomenon to a great extent...Which is too bad, because it meant so much to a great many people.
SIR ALEC GUINNES HAS DIED........ by MUCUS	Aug 6th, 2000 11:19:33 PM
I only wish to pass on my observance of Sir Alec Guinness' passing. May he be in the LORD'S keeping.
Farewell, old friend by CaptainWalker	Aug 6th, 2000 11:19:47 PM
Thank you Alec.
One of the greatest, BUT... by BGW Claw	Aug 6th, 2000 11:34:24 PM
I will NEVER forget his mighty roles in STAR WARS, LAWRENCE OF ARABIA, and BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI. God bless you Sir Alec Guiness, you will be long remembered by many, even though you hated Star Wars, everyone who loves Star Wars loves you too for all the memories you have given us. BUT I must step in and say how ridiculuous this site gets sometimes at times like these. We step out of our bitching and whining about new movies and about movies we've recently seen that "suck" or whatever, now to suddenly greive. Just seems weird. Maybe because having so many of you people talking positively is such a strange concept. Everyone's always blasting everything and whining about little details about this or that, and it's always so damn negative. It makes me think a lot of you don't like movies. Why bother bitching others out. I'm not trying to say can't we all just get along but come on, let's stop all this cynical nonsense and be optimistic about things sometimes.
alas poor alec... by Egg	Aug 6th, 2000 11:39:06 PM
me my brother my sister and my girlfriend were playing starwars trivial pursuit when this news was on the news. the question i had to answer was "what role was the actor Toshiro Mifune originally suggested for in Star Wars: A New Hope?" just as i was answering the television informed us of sir alec guiness' death. i was certain we had killed him somehow. it bums me out man...
Lucas The Hutt (if you seen those "spy" pics, you will known wha by []D[][]V[][]D	Aug 6th, 2000 11:39:55 PM
I hope Alec's passing will wake up Lucas the fat ass and make him lose some weight. Damn he let himself go. Maybe Lucas might even reconsider more StarWars movies after the Prequels, that is if Lucas is still alive, that fat ass. **************************** ************************** ********
I sensed a million voices crying out... by Adam Mantioba	Aug 6th, 2000 11:41:07 PM
The Force will be with you, always. Consider me bummed.
R2 beeps sadly tonight by Twig	Aug 6th, 2000 11:41:34 PM
It always sucks when a talent goes, but 86 years was a helluva run. R.I.P. to Sir Alec Guiness
A Sad day... by TheREALObi-Wan	Aug 6th, 2000 11:42:10 PM
I received a phone call from one of my friends tonight who said he'd heard about Sir Alec passing away, so immediately I checked the net to confirm it. Sadly, it is all too true. When I was but a child, and saw Star Wars for the very first time, I fell in love with its' characters. I fell in love with the passion and empathy and depth to which these characters were acted out. And in a way, I always regarded Obi-Wan Kenobi as a gentle and noble Grandfather: someone who was far more wise than myself. Someone to learn from, someone to look up to for his knowledge and experience. And so today, this evening, my heart has sunk deep inside my chest. Losing Sir Alec Guinness has been a tragedy. We have all lost a familiar character from our fantasy universe, but we have also lost a legend in the acting world. Always a pity to see someone so beloved pass on. At least we will always have him forever immortalized in our thoughts and on film. May the Force be with you, Sir Alec. You will be missed.
He will be long remembered... by IAmJacksUserID	Aug 6th, 2000 11:44:06 PM
I've got a bad feeling about this...
Not the last we will see of Sir Alec in Starwars! Rumor has it t by xone9	Aug 6th, 2000 11:45:16 PM
Heard this rumor tons of times a while back, on many starwars sites. Be so cool!!!
Just heard the news by Brando	Aug 6th, 2000 11:51:04 PM
very very sad! But everyone has to die sometime... even the great sir ALEC GUINESS! It's one of he beauty's of life.. dying and go to heaven. But it's very sad that he won't be on this earth anymore... What a talent!
Lucas please don't end up embittered like Alec. by []D[][]V[][]D	Aug 6th, 2000 11:54:11 PM
.............................. .............................. ..................and don't fuck up the dvds with any "extra scenes" heh.
oh well by ChrisK	Aug 7th, 2000 12:03:47 AM
speaking of...when the %#@! is Murder By Death coming out on DVD...Alec Guiness' funniest acting in great movie...and I bet he didn't hate Star Wars as much as the remake of Little Lord Fauntleroy with Ricky Schroeder!hats of to him...loved his work with Lean
The Force will be with you, alway's by Kaylob	Aug 7th, 2000 12:09:37 AM
He will be missed, kids that saw starwars will lose part of there childhood, its every kids fanstasy to be like obi wan kenobi, farewell alec
He's "taken is first step... into a larger world." by Devils Halo	Aug 7th, 2000 12:12:55 AM
Astonishing works from an astonishing man.. thank you.
A Legend Leaves Us by GandalfGriffin3	Aug 7th, 2000 12:18:18 AM
http://members.xoom.com/mosten dorp/alec.html You will be missed.
No..that's not true...that's IMPOSSIBLE! by Lazarus Long	Aug 7th, 2000 12:20:59 AM
Sorry Luke, it is true. I have to say that although many f you might be running to the video store tomorrow to rent Bridge on the River Kwai per other Talkbackers' prompting, but Kind Hearts and Coronets is the true video rental to honor this man. We have all been in awe of his stature because of Obi-Wan, but KHAC shows that he could make you laugh as creatively and hilariously as Peter Sellers in his prime. I think the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of these old British actors is their noble portrayals of heroic men, but DAMN! this guy was funny. Along with The Ladykillers and Lavender Hill Mob, KHAC solidifies his place in the Pantheon of comedy. He plays, what, 12 or 13 roles in this film? *** Also, let me point out two late great performances in case you thought Star Wars was the capstone of his career. The British film Little Dorrit, which is actually 2 parts of 2 hours each, and considered some of his best work, and his portrayal of the Indian doctor in David Lean's last film, A Passage to India. Ben Kingsley got the Oscar for Ghandi, but see Passage and watch how Guinness plays this humorously wise character without going over the top into camp (unlike Sellers character in The Party). Guinness was a man of many gifts, to truly appreciate his talent demands more than dropping a few of your favorite Star Wars quotes. His dislike for the Sci-Fi Epic stemmed from the overabundance of geek mail and harassment, and how would you like to be an Oscar-winning Knight of the British Empire and only be thought of as a Sci-Fi character? That's pretty shitty. So raise a mug of the man's namesake beer, whistle Colonel Bogey's March (Kwai theme music) and down one or two for a true artist. Cheers!
No..that's not true...that's IMPOSSIBLE! by Lazarus Long	Aug 7th, 2000 12:22:45 AM
Sorry Luke, it is true. I have to say that although many f you might be running to the video store tomorrow to rent Bridge on the River Kwai per other Talkbackers' prompting, but Kind Hearts and Coronets is the true video rental to honor this man. We have all been in awe of his stature because of Obi-Wan, but KHAC shows that he could make you laugh as creatively and hilariously as Peter Sellers in his prime. I think the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of these old British actors is their noble portrayals of heroic men, but DAMN! this guy was funny. Along with The Ladykillers and Lavender Hill Mob, KHAC solidifies his place in the Pantheon of comedy. He plays, what, 12 or 13 roles in this film? *** Also, let me point out two late great performances in case you thought Star Wars was the capstone of his career. The British film Little Dorrit, which is actually 2 parts of 2 hours each, and considered some of his best work, and his portrayal of the Indian doctor in David Lean's last film, A Passage to India. Ben Kingsley got the Oscar for Ghandi, but see Passage and watch how Guinness plays this humorously wise character without going over the top into camp (unlike Sellers character in The Party). Guinness was a man of many gifts, to truly appreciate his talent demands more than dropping a few of your favorite Star Wars quotes. His dislike for the Sci-Fi Epic stemmed from the overabundance of geek mail and harassment, and how would you like to be an Oscar-winning Knight of the British Empire and only be thought of as a Sci-Fi character? That's pretty shitty. So raise a mug of the man's namesake beer, whistle Colonel Bogey's March (Kwai theme music) and down one or two for a true artist. Cheers!
This will be a day long remembered... by Psyclops	Aug 7th, 2000 12:28:46 AM
...a day when one of the greatest legends of our time has passed on, leaving nothing but wonderful memories of his past work. I will always remember him as Obi-Wan because I was a young boy when I first saw Star Wars. This news is very sad, in fact, I can't really type anything without stopping to for a few seconds and letting the knowledge sink in. I just returned from work and I hear about this, and I don't want it to be true...but sadly, it is. God bless you, Mr. Guiness,...and may the force be with you.
EP II and the genius that is MEGAFORCE by FOURSKINJOBS	Aug 7th, 2000 12:42:03 AM
Hal Needham is the man!!! In my personal opinion,Barry Bostwick should have been cast in EP II as Darth Bane and Henry Silva could be Han Solo's dad ("It's all on the wheel"). Lou Diamond Phillips was born to play C3P0's cousin, Corbin Bernson as the Emperor, Jeanine Gerafollfelacio as Princess Amidala, Leonardo DiCaprio as Chewy, Jackie Chan as Anakin (Vader), Jack Lemmon as Obe Won Kenobi, Mini-Me as Yoda,and George Lucas in a rare cameo appearance as Jar-Jar. These are the ingredients for a true masterpeice. But the rest of us...we are just NUMBERS... NUMBERS!!!
ONE MORE STAR TO GRACE THE NIGHT...AND GOD, WHAT A DAMN BRIGHT O by nightsir	Aug 7th, 2000 12:47:16 AM
There are moments, when the world gets just a little bit colder. I realise his fading away, realise so much time has passed, realise his beeing part of my dreams, oh what a damned day. Memories are ours to keep, sadness' tears are ours to weep. Farewell dear Sir. May angels guide to eternity's heavenly light...
Shit. I honestly thought he had been dead for years now. by kojiro	Aug 7th, 2000 12:50:25 AM
Shit.That's really all that's to be said sometimes. Just shit.
The others had been go hide somewhere... by Zero tolerance	Aug 7th, 2000 12:50:50 AM
Apparently death was reading the all sci-fi issue of TV guide and got some crazy scheme into its head.. deforest kelly, james doohan, Sir alec guiness. the greats are all going the way of the dodo... its a sad state of affairs we're in at the moment. shatner, takei, nemoy, and koening are the last of the senior officers of the enterprise. ford, hamill, fisher, james earl jones... they're all thats left of the original star wars franchise... its so sad that they're all going to go someday too.. life sucks sometimes.
our great loss by jfmcginnis	Aug 7th, 2000 12:57:58 AM
it was only time before such a loss from the main star wars family would come, how sad it has to be one of the most beloved ones. thankfully his vast body of work and unforgetable performances will live on. now, when the dvd's come out, lets hope george includes a tribute to honor his legacy...
I try to be macho... by Breean	Aug 7th, 2000 01:09:11 AM
... But a tear came to my eye over this one. A truely respectable actor, and though I am a major Star Wars fan, thats not what I am talking about. The Bridge on the River Kwai was a great movie, and he showed his true acting abilities in it. If you loved Sir Alec and you havn't seen it, go rent it. If you don't like it right away, watch it anyway as a tribut to the man, the mistery, the Jedi Master. Brian
Thank You Sir Alec by The Equalizer	Aug 7th, 2000 01:11:58 AM
You brought a certain amount of Magic onto the silver screen and touched everyone who has witnessed all of your performances. Star Wars was my first encounter but since then I have seen many of your films. You brought brilliance to the films you were in and changed them from simply good films to utterly phenomenal films. God Speed and May the force be with you.
What? by The Garbage Man	Aug 7th, 2000 01:15:04 AM
James Doohan is dead? It's not mentioned on the IMDB.
crap...shit...DAMN!!! by FOURSKINJOBS	Aug 7th, 2000 01:23:25 AM
I can't believe Vanilla Ice passed away today!! The world is a warmer place without his 'ice' to cool us all down. Not to mention the fact that he would have been PERFECT as Watto. Another shoe-in is OJ Simpson as Lando's dad, whenever his character enters the picture. Man, and wouldn't it be just AWESOME to see James Doohan gracing the screen as a young uncle Owen?
But Master Yoda says I should be mindful of the future... by Mr. Binoche	Aug 7th, 2000 01:56:34 AM
This man is the reason why Star Wars is what it is, no question. Ewan's performances in the next two films will only serve to heighten the importance of Sir Alec Guiness, paying homage to the original Obi-Wan by becoming one with the character and fleshing out the entire backstory of the most famous character Sir Alec ever portrayed.
Farewell, Sir Alec. by Darth Taun Taun	Aug 7th, 2000 02:01:51 AM
Sir Alec's portrayal of Obi-Wan Kenobi serves notice that even after our beloved actors have passed their "prime," they are still capable of legendary performances. As "The Simpsons" noted, "Alec Guinness" is an anagram of "Genuine Class." A true master of the old school. We shall miss you. Farewell.
Damn...but, what a full life! by 18Buddahs	Aug 7th, 2000 02:05:34 AM
We all pass on at some point. He was a great actor, and he lived a rich life, I can only hope the same for myself. Speaking of great actors, I saw this collection on EBay that looks really cool. It's got a lot of really cool films, I only wish I could afford it. Check it out: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBa yISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=40148 8503 If someone does get it, let me know, I'd love to buy one or two of them from you.
Thank You! =) by Jonte	Aug 7th, 2000 02:08:53 AM
"Lawrence of Arabia", "The Bridge on the River Kwai", "Doctor Zhivago", "Star Wars". You are the reason I watch movies!
Lucas would be a fool not to dedicate Ep. II to Sir Guiness.. by YerAllAgainstMe	Aug 7th, 2000 02:14:18 AM
I'm sorry, but this is extremely sad sad news for me. It would be only fitting to see homage paid correctly, whether or not he hated Star Wars. He was the icon for several fans, and although he didn't always express his love for these movies, he was nonetheless a tremendous actor of legendary proportions. Goodbye, Sir Alec Guiness. Say hello to my brother while you're up there!
Sir Alec actually liked George Lucas by ol' painless	Aug 7th, 2000 02:49:24 AM
Monkey Lord, I may be wrong in this, but in some book I read about the making of Star Wars, Sir Alec was one of the few people actually backing up Lucas and his vision on set, and worked closely with Lucas in realising the full potential of the Obi-Wan character. Sir Alec was also smart and lucky enough to agree to taking a % of any possible gross Star Wars might make rather than his usual fee, which does show how much faith he had in the whole project. So long, Sir Alec - truly a landmark of World theatre and cinema, with fans in every generation
truly sad news =( by cripster	Aug 7th, 2000 02:52:21 AM
I was sixteen and newly licensed to drive in '77, and Star Wars was the first movie I drove myself and my friends to. Sir Alec added such grace and depth to what could have been a throw-away role, and his presence (along with Peter Cushing's) elevated the movie onto another plane. But, unlike many talkbackers here, I was already quite familiar with his work, having already seen Bridge on the River Kwai, The Man in the White Suit, Kind Hearts and Coronets, and Lawrence of Arabia (all on TV). Its these films that will always be foremost in my mind when I think of Sir Alec, but the geek in me will always reserve a special place in my heart for Ol' Ben Kenobi. Sir Alec, rest in peace, and fear not that your legacy will be restricted to a certain Jedi master. You will be sorely missed by all who appreciate great acting, no matter the genre.
The loss of class by Sid James	Aug 7th, 2000 03:32:49 AM
Goodbye Sir Alec, There is nobody who can come close to the standard he set over 60 years of performances to make your spine tingle. Where have all the greats gone?
Sir Alec Guiness....RIP by Fi.	Aug 7th, 2000 03:38:30 AM
I was saddened to hear of the news of Sir Alec Guiness's death. My parents took me to see 'Star Wars' at a cinema in St Andrews in Scotland - I was 5 years old and I loved the film. Years later I came to appreciate just what this man could do. I have to confess to not having seen Bridge Over the River Kwai but I have seen (several times) Kind Hearts & Coronets, and his performance as ALL 8 members of the d'Ascoigne (I'm never sure how to spell it) family is truly astonishing. I feel very sad that he disliked 'Star Wars' so much when it brought such joy and fun into the hearts of a generation of children and continues to do so - but seen in the context of his other performances, it doesn't rank as highly. My condolences to Sir Alec's family. I know what you're going through - I lost my mother a couple of weeks ago. Please take comfort from the love of thousands of Sir Alec's fans the world over, who truly appreciate his contribution to film and theatre. His films will live on for future generations to see and appreciate. He will be very greatly missed. -------------------------- P.s: James Doohan is NOT dead, repeat: NOT dead.
by Dwarf Sidious	Aug 7th, 2000 03:45:45 AM
"And me, I long for the gardens of Cordoba . . ." --Alec Guinness as Prince Feisal
The bridge is gone by Schwinn	Aug 7th, 2000 03:51:16 AM
Tonight I was shocked to hear about the passing of one of the great actors of the last century and a true gentleman. When a friend told me the news, tears began to flow. There are not enough words to pay homage. The man was a part of our heritage. No matter what your age, you had or have some connection to Obi-Wan. You genuenly felt his anger and paaion in The bridge over River Kwoi. The man was a legend and he will sorely be missed. Saturday was a dark day in all our lives. "Strike me down, and I will grow more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
Who will be left... by I'mAlanPartridge	Aug 7th, 2000 04:01:54 AM
when the actors of this stature are no longer with us? A masterful, persuasive, honest actor who did his job with flair and panache. Peace.
Sir Alec by Gabba-UK	Aug 7th, 2000 04:15:25 AM
What words can express the true nature of the greif that many of us must feel right now. None. It is not often that the term legend can be justified especialy in the seemingly egotistical profession that is acting but here is a man which the word Legend doesnt even come near to expressing his full talent. Only Laurence Olivier could be regarded as Alec's true peer. He was and still is the finest actor these Isles have ever produced. I shall always remember the scene in Bridge on the Kwai when coming out of the 'Sweat-box' the powerful dignity that came from him as walked upright and pround to his cabin. I could feel the presence of the man lift from the screen and hit me like a hammer and he didnt say a word! Name me another actor that could do that now. These actors that today can command millions a movie shouldwatch Alec's films again and realise that he had more talent and skill in his little finger than any of them have. I dont call them actors, they are performers, Guiness, Olivier, Guilgood they were actors and the likes of Clooney, Cruise and Willis should today feel very humble. And there is of course Obi-Wan. It wasnt his greatest role, far from it. That honour goes to 'Kwai'. But for many it was his most important role. I was six when I saw the film andwthout trying to sound very 'Califorian' about it,the film altered me. I suddenly knew the differenc between right and wrong, good and evil and Alec WAS good. Again this quiet dignity that he had efected me and made me want to be him. I wanted o live my live by this charectors principles. So cmplete was his emersion in the role that I grew up beliveing that this man did live in a galaxy far away and it felt good to know that. So rest in peace Sir Alec Guinness the force was strong within you and Im thankful to you that iswas.
Become one with the force?! by jetset-jimbo	Aug 7th, 2000 04:18:40 AM
I think Alec would have been severly pissed of at this description, bearing in mind his relationship with Star Wars (I believe he described it as "a collection of childish banalities", and made some little kid promise never to watch it again.) The guy was one of the greatest actors of his generation, and invoking one of his least favorite roles is kinda bad taste.
Damn by Big M	Aug 7th, 2000 04:20:05 AM
What can you say that has not already been said here. Its always a sad day when one of the greats dies.
Great Obi Wan Kenobi rest in peace. by GalactusZ	Aug 7th, 2000 04:27:15 AM
I know Sir Alec Guinness never enjoyed being remembered as Obi Wan, but fans all over the world will always appreciate his contribution to the Star Wars universe. Rest in peace, great one.
Goodbye Sir Alec by Surly Duck	Aug 7th, 2000 05:44:47 AM
... y'know, he was responsible for so many great roles in films such as Bridge On The River Kwai, and The Ladykilers, but I'll always remember the first time I saw him in Star Wars when I was a kid. Whatever his feelings were on Obi-Wan, the film was part of my childhood and it just would not have been the same without him. Rest in peace Sir Alec Guinness.
presence by Beeblebrox	Aug 7th, 2000 06:09:32 AM
...is what the man had. One of those actors that could just stand, make the smallest gesture, and communicate pages of info. For his whole collection of work this man will be missed, not just the Obi of my childhood. My inner child hopes he just faded away on a bed somewhere...
Enough with the Star Wars references... by Reg	Aug 7th, 2000 06:24:02 AM
Poor guy, Alec Guiness really didn't give a shit about Star Wars, he considered it one of the low points of his career and binned all his Star Wars fan mail before he read it. As such saluting his career with a big "Obi Wan is one with the force" is a bit on the crap side - for once in your lives - forget Star Wars and celebrate the films which made his career more memorable (Man in the White Suit, The LadyKillers, Bridge Over River Kwai etc.) Guiness was a fantastic actor and a lot more down to earth than in a galaxy far far away.
Guinness on Star Wars by PoxyVonSinister	Aug 7th, 2000 06:35:43 AM
I don't think Guinness had a dislike for Star Wars per se. It was the fact that here was a man who had starred in some of the greatest films ever made, and all anybody wanted to talk about was Obi Wan. It's like never asking Robert Plant about any song but Stairway to Heaven, and I can see how that would make someone bitter towards something. Also, I've heard from people who had met him recently that his memory became a bit ... selective, with age making him remember things not necessarily as they were. So if any Star Wars fans out there who've never seen him as anything but Obi-Wan truly want to honor his legacy, rent Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia, Kind Hearts and Coronets, or one of the many other fine films this actor put his soul into. I imagine he'd like that.
Tears.. by Otter	Aug 7th, 2000 06:43:48 AM
were on my face when I heard the news on my clock radio this morning;Rest in peace, Sir Alec: and Mr. MacGregor? Do this fine man a great tribute with your future performances.
This will be a day long remembered - the Force will be with him, by photon_wordsmith	Aug 7th, 2000 07:04:27 AM
For whatever films and performances Sir Alec will be remembered, may the Force be with him.
I did feel a disturbance in the Force... by Thanato	Aug 7th, 2000 07:39:56 AM
I know how corny this may sound, but I think I did feel when Sir Alec Guiness passed on. I was with my family in Colorado at the time, camping (aka no phone, no lights, no motorcar, not a single luxury...) and I had a dream that night that he had died. I remember the date because I wrote it down the next morning. What a sad, sad passing. He was truly a great man, let alone actor. Perhaps he did get embitterred to always being seen as Obi-Wan, but he always struck me as a very fine example of how a person should be living. While I am sad to see him go, I am glad that he can now be one with the Force of this Universe, in a galaxy far, far away. So long, Sir Guinness. A toast to you and all the movie memories you left for generations to come.
Genuine Class by r_dimitri22	Aug 7th, 2000 08:14:22 AM
"His idea of Heaven, he once said, was to 'sit on the terrace on a summer's evening, enjoy a drink with one or two friends and listen to the silence.'" I hope you have found your heaven, Alec. It sounds much like mine. You will be missed.
The most Important question to be asked!!! by wowbobwow	Aug 7th, 2000 08:20:52 AM
I loved Sir Alec like so many others that saw Star Wars as a child for the first time. Even though he hated the films he will always be Obi Wan to me. The most important question here is this: Did he disappear when he passed on? Just joking. God Bless Alec Perhaps we'll meet in Valhalla
For me, the worst day of this year by EmperorCaligula	Aug 7th, 2000 08:22:02 AM
First, John Gielgud, now Alec Guinness. The greatest actors die, and we barely have a few good movies this year. 2000 is definitively a bad year for cinema. Beside of this, my esteem for Moriarty really grows, if Lawrence of Arabia is his favorite film. A really sad day for all those who love movies.
Nice Obit In The NYTimes Today by mrbeaks	Aug 7th, 2000 08:32:18 AM
And it was spotting said item on the front page that served to inform me of the great thesp's passing. I'm deeply saddened, of course, but when we're left with such a rich legacy to pick over for the rest of our lives, it's hard to stay somber for long. Farewell, Sir Alec, and thank you......
A man of great accomplishments. by diverdan	Aug 7th, 2000 08:48:53 AM
He was a great actor. He was a great dramatic actor. A great comic actor. I am old enough that when I think of Alec Guiness, Star Wars is not the first role I picture. I have to admit though that Obi-wan is one of my favorites. But after reading his obit I think one of his greatest accomplishments was that he was married to the same woman since 1938. An amazing achievement for anyone and a particularly difficult thing to do leading the life of an actor.
Cut the references to Star Wars by Morrissey Fan	Aug 7th, 2000 09:08:31 AM
My fellow geeks, I hate to tell you this (those that don't already know), but Alec Guinness was not very fond of Star Wars. He thought the dialogue was mumbo jumbo, and he hated the fact that everyone 30 yrs old and younger only knew him as Obi Wan Kenobi! He wrote in his autobiograhy 2 years ago words to the effect that "people of the yonger generation of actors don't know the stars of the stage and screen, they know Gieldgud from studying the classics, but me from Star Wars, it's embarrassing". He was right, instead of putting ep 4,5,6 in the vcr today as an "homage" rent Great Expectations, A Passage to India, Bridge on the River Kwai, or The Lavender Hill Mob, I assure you Mr Guinness would appreciate it more than a sci-fi movie he only did to make some money!
life passing into death passing into life by holidill	Aug 7th, 2000 09:19:17 AM
I think everyone here at the AICN talkback has said everything about this great actor that we can say at this point. He was a great actor, a man of genuine class, who if he truly hated Star Wars why would he appear in all three of the films. Maybe because he was an actor who liked the people he worked with. So let's all raise a glass, and stand at a moment in silence for this incredibly great man........................... .............................. ........You have lived a full life my friend, it is time to rest and enjoy what awaits you on the other side. We'll miss you.
I love Star Wars as much as anyone.. by Andymation	Aug 7th, 2000 10:15:04 AM
...but if Alec didn't want to be remembered just as obi-Wan than he shouldn't be. His "The Bridge On The River Kwai" was the best performance. It's sad. Justin Pierce hung himself. Now this. And since he has given up medications, Carl Barks are probably gonna' bite it soon too. Boy does that make me feel sad. R.I.P Alec!
How lame of STAR WARS.com by Wheel99	Aug 7th, 2000 10:15:40 AM
A full 12 hours after his death was announced and not even a mention of him on the site. LAME
Alec's passing by MTHPROD	Aug 7th, 2000 10:19:56 AM
Yes, it's sad, sadder still that they are going to remake Kind Hearts and Coronets with Will Smith and Robin Williams in Sir Alec's many roles. Robin Williams couldn't shine, lick much less stand in Sir Alec's shoes. I'm just glad this great actor won't be around to see this eventual pile of steaming shit when it gets released . And then we'll be treated to Will Smith, Robin Williams and Mike Nichols (who hasn't made a good film since the 60s) talking about how "dated" the first KHAC was and how there's is really edgy and so on target for today's audiences.....the thought just makes me sick. As for Sir Alec hating SW, early on that wasn't the case. He did back Lucas against the snobby English crew who all thought the film would be a disaster (including the original DP). It was Sir Alec who pulled Lucas aside and told him he was making "something special". This gave Lucas the confidence to finish the movie. I think what disappointed Sir Alec was not only the under 30 crowd only knowing him for SW, but also his displeasure at seeing what Lucas did with SW making toys and coloring books and the like. Sir Alec was quoted at how he thought Lucas corrupted something he felt at the time was magical and innocent. And now suddenly it's this big industrial toy factory. Phantom Menace proved Sir Alec correct. A great man, a great actor,'nuff said.
Good-bye, Sir Knight by XF1	Aug 7th, 2000 10:26:44 AM
Many of you argue that he should not be remembered just as Obi-Wan. I agree, he had many terrfic roles. But actors are often identified with the roles they did best. Brando is Vito Corloene. Yul Bryner was the King of Siam. Anthony Perkins was Norman Bates. Yes, Alec Guiness had a wonderful carrer with many memorable roles, but Obi-Wan is the one he is known best for and the one he was mostly be remembered for. And as much as he may have disliked it in later years, you can tell he brought as much of his craft as he could when making the film. Watch the original Star Wars and you'll see. That haunting look on his face when Luke first says "Obi-Wan" before him. The look on his face after he cuts the two aliens at the cantina, daring someone to catch him. His confidence breaking down Han's bragging. "Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?" And of course, that little smile he gives Vader just before turning off his lightsaber. Alec Guiness provided the soul of Star Wars and without him, we may not have had such a classic on our hands. And I would not have my all-time favorite movie. Thank you for that, Alec. Thank you and good-bye. We'll all miss you.
farewell.... by BYOBkenobi	Aug 7th, 2000 10:29:43 AM
and thank you for the memories, sir.
If anyone can come back as a shimmering ghost it's him. by Horseflesh	Aug 7th, 2000 10:39:42 AM
Goodbye, childhood friend and great skilled actor.
He accomplished what few actors have... by CMC	Aug 7th, 2000 10:53:23 AM
...in that he not only made a lasting impression on movie-goers, but also made a place in their hearts. Different generations associate him with different characters, and to me will always be Obi-Wan Kenobi. But he is, without any doubt, one of the greatest, most talented actors to ever grace the silver screen, and because so, he made our lives that much richer.
http://www.startrek.com/news/new s.asp?ID=112128 by MrToade	Aug 7th, 2000 10:53:54 AM

the last of the Jedi by rossimus	Aug 7th, 2000 11:14:39 AM
thank you Sir.
As long as there's home entertainment by RobinP	Aug 7th, 2000 11:42:20 AM
.....he will never die. Respectfully, RobinP
Sir A by Rabbit Stew	Aug 7th, 2000 12:01:08 PM
Poor Starwars.com- they must be deeply mourning. It is common after the death of a close one to pretend that nothing has happened and carry on as normal..it'll hit them soon enough.
A sad day for humanity by Razorfist	Aug 7th, 2000 12:07:20 PM
He will be missed.......
I'll always remember him by Stephen Dedalus	Aug 7th, 2000 12:38:17 PM
Seeing as I can't express anything that has not already been said, I will simply say that no one has seen "comedy" until they have seen THE LAVENDER HILL MOB. Go out and rent it NOW.
Sad News by LCD	Aug 7th, 2000 12:43:59 PM
I just can
So Long, Obi Wan... by utz_world	Aug 7th, 2000 01:11:33 PM
the Force and your legacy will forever be with us...ALWAYS.
Alec Hated Star Wars, hated it by jdegraf	Aug 7th, 2000 01:18:09 PM
so much so he asked to get written out of it wait for a real movie like LOTR, not some stupid 10 year old masturbation like these SW films are!
Not Cool by Daxthedog	Aug 7th, 2000 02:07:05 PM
Personally, I think it sucks that there's no mention Alec Guiness' passing on starwars.com yet we have pictures of Yoda's cafeteria....
A dam shame. by Roborob	Aug 7th, 2000 02:32:36 PM
This is the second time I have posted a note in tribute to a late actor I wish it was not so. Also please forgive any errors in spelling on my part. I offer my condolancies to Sir Alec Guiness's Family and friends. He was a Dam fine actor, who was not above playing the fool. I will remember him as Obi-Wan Kenobi, The Man in the white suit, The British Officer at the Bridge on the river Kwai, The Titanic officer who took down the white star Flag and all the family members in Kind Hearts and Coronets. A great man gone forever. But as long as he is remembered then he will live on.
He has become more powerful than we could possibly imagine... by Dragonstar	Aug 7th, 2000 03:10:59 PM
Rest in peace Alec Guiness, you will be missed.
May the Force Be With You... by Fett, Mr. Fett	Aug 7th, 2000 03:11:07 PM
... the Force will be with you, always.
lucas statement by CRM114	Aug 7th, 2000 03:14:45 PM
I was just about to grip about how low class it was to not mention Guiness's passing on Starwars.com, when I checked it and found a statement from Lucas. Hell, Guiness might have been pleased not to be mentioned on it.
Jesus Christ.First Gielgud now Guinness by gingeracrockford	Aug 7th, 2000 03:16:53 PM
Only John Mills left now.They're droppping like flies.Probably waited for the millenium then lost the energy.Only 86.He looked so healthy last time I saw him on TV (commiserating Gielgud)Well done for mentioning other films besides Star Wars btw, its what he would have wanted
A truly sad day for Cinema! by Sinis	Aug 7th, 2000 03:25:01 PM
Sir Alec's death is a great loss to cinema, his fans, and his family. My condolences. A master of his craft and a great man. God bless you Sir Alec!
StarWars.Com Statement? by Nitestar	Aug 7th, 2000 03:26:22 PM
It's gone, no mention of it on the frontpage, I only found the link through Force.net but it leads to a non-existant page. Well that's classy... yeesh.
Don't forget Jamesir Bensonmum by Zath_ras	Aug 7th, 2000 03:37:18 PM
..the blind butler from "Murder by Death". Oops, sorry, not a bullet hole. Goodbye Sir Guinness, you have been imitated but certainly never duplicated.
http://www.filmunlimited.co.uk/N ews_Story/Exclusive/0,,328794,00 by EmperorCaligula	Aug 7th, 2000 03:37:58 PM
Kind hearts and coronets: if you ever liked this movie and liked Alec Guinness' acting, go and see it by yourself. How can they do that with _that_ film?! And with _those_ actors?!What's LAPD police doing now?? As if this day wasn't sad enough (I know, this info is 2 months old, but I found it only now)...
Thanks by the_rake	Aug 7th, 2000 03:45:07 PM
The Rake raises a glass to Sir Alec - one of the last of the great actors. Thanks for the white suit, thanks for Kind Hearts & Coronets, the Ladykillers, the Lavender Hill Mob, the Bridge on the River Kwai, for all the years on the stage and , while I know what he felt about it and can understand why he did, a big thanks for injecting class and soul into one of my favourite films...you had good run sir, I like to think you made the most of it. Tonight the stars over London don't seem as bright anymore... One more thing, if there is any justice in the world, they CANNOT, WILL NOT remake Kind Hearts... as nothing can touch the original.
yawwwwwn by X-Girls	Aug 7th, 2000 03:47:40 PM
Alec Guiness always struck me as a man with a ten foot bamboo stick up his ass. In his senile old age, the man regretted being in Star Wars!! In Star Wars!!! He was old, old people die
Stop the incessant whining !!! by elche	Aug 7th, 2000 04:23:15 PM
Before I rant, it's sad that Sir Alec is gone. He will be missed. Now, please people, stop whining that his death is not mentioned in starwars.com . It is. Just because you didn't see it earlier, does not mean that they have "something against him", George Lucas hated him, or they don't like him. They probably took a little bit of time (and not much anyways!) to make sure they put something tasteful, like a quote from George, who's in Australia right now. Making a flashy page with a tribute to him for playing Obi-Wan, is not appropiate right now. BTW - Whinner of the day goes to "crm144" for this gem : ------------------------------ --- crm114 Subject:lucas statement Comment: I was just about to grip about how low class it was to not mention Guiness's passing on Starwars.com, when I checked it and found a statement from Lucas. Hell,Guiness might have been pleased not to be mentioned on it. ------------------------------ --- So, you where going to whine about it not being mentioned, it is, and now you're whining about how Sir Alec wouldn't have liked to be mentioned there anyways. Either way, nothing starwars.com could do (or has done) is "right" or "ok" ??? WOW !!!
on sir alec and star wars by TABALF	Aug 7th, 2000 04:40:22 PM
it's interesting to see how his opinion has changed. BBC2 just screened an interview from 1977 (that i'd seen before) between alec guinness and michael parkinson where, at one point, they both talked about how much they loved star wars. but you see guinness' point: parkinson finds a mass of other subjects to talk to him about, not just star wars. that's what's a good interviewer. oh and, by th way, where is that statement from lucas?
Playing Prince Fisal, the man himself said it best.... by yt1300	Aug 7th, 2000 04:50:26 PM
"What I owe you, is beyond evaluation" We shall never repay. Thank You Sir Alec
Now what would anyone want with a dead naked body? by Vegas	Aug 7th, 2000 04:54:15 PM
Oh, that's tacky, REALLY TACKY.
Sir Alec Guinness on the Parkinson Show in 1977. by Gabba-UK	Aug 7th, 2000 04:54:59 PM
Well here in the UK the death of Sir Alec has been headline news with many such as Sir John Mills and Lord Attenborough paying tribute to the man and his work. Tonight as a tribute to him the BBC has just repeated an interview he gave to Micheal Parkinson in 1977. Parkinson is our most respected chat show host's most famous for his style and the fact he often just has one guest on to talk to. If you are asked to be on the Parkinson show in England then you know you have made it. During this interview which was 40 mins of great TV (if you can get a tape of it, watch it.) Sir Alec talked at great length about his carear telling some great storys including the time he met James Dean for dinner and who wanted to show him his new silver car. Sir Alec asked Dean how fast canyou go in that car to which Dean replyed 150 mph. Sir Alec said he felt a tiny voice in his head waning him and he said 'Have you driven it yet?', 'No' came the answear. 'My dear boy, please dont drive that car.' looking at his watch he then said 'Its now 10.30, if you drive that car by this time next week you will be dead.' They then had dinner. that was on Thursday and the following Thursday afternoon Dean was killed in the same car. But I digress. Near the end of the show Parkinson askd of him (Im para-phrasing here) 'After this huge carear with all these great films you now haveht the big time with this new film Star Wars, what made you want to do it?', 'Well the script was elivered by hand by George Lucas who's name I regconised as a young, upcoming and talented Director. So I opened the script and saw it was Sci-Fi and thought oh dear me no not my sort of thing. But I read it and thought that the script was a bit ropey to say the least but I couldnt stop turning the page. Always a good sign that. So I met up with Lucas and ended up making the film.' He went on further, 'I liked the story because it had a certain innocence, there were people being killed but in a 'Bang-Bang your dead' sort of way. There was no sleazy sex in it, no sex at all in fact and there was a pace to it and a look that wasso new and a freshness to it, like a breath of fresh air washing over me. So much so that when I saw it and came out of the cinema in London having seen it for the first time I thought what a terribly dull and gritty place London is!' Parkinson te asked what the reaction to it has been like, 'Well like all the best simple stories people read too much into it.' 'Do people see you as some sort f Guru?'. 'Oh dear me yes. My wife and I have bee having some very stange letters from America along the lines of (Guiness effects a perfect American accent) My wife and I have been having some trouble in our marriage could you come over ad help us out....' To which Parkinson laughs and says that it was the first film he'd seen in a long time that he felt good after watching it. And yu got the sence then that Guinnes knew what was coming and the total fan-dem that was on it's way. Prove I think that at the end of his life he may have thought the films silly but at the time he did enjoy them. Beg, steal or kill but get a vid of this show if you can. Not only is it one of Paknsons best but you get to now something of the Real Sir Alec and not just the Obi-wan that most of us know and love.
Well, the statement IS gone by CRM114	Aug 7th, 2000 05:03:34 PM
I saw the statement earlier, but it does appear to have been removed. Perhaps they are just reworking it, who knows. But even if Guiness may have liked to have not been mentioned on it, he was obviously a vital part of the Star Wars universe and starwars.com should get their shit together and pay their dues. If a 15 minute appearance of a Lucas statement is all they are going to do to remember him, than LOW CLASS they are. Hey "elche", by "whinner" are you trying to say "winner" or "whiner"? I'll take "winner", thanks. Now quit whining about anyone that dares sully the Star Wars name. It's just the website for crying out loud! More LOW CLASS points goes to those trashing Guiness because he dared slam Star Wars. He was an amazing actor who had done a huge variety of spectacular roles, and then he does Star Wars and he gets typecast! It's a cruel fate for such a talent. He deserved so much better. Who can blame him for being bitter?
Note from George Lucas by elche	Aug 7th, 2000 05:10:17 PM
Somehow, there a problem with the starwars.com site, where the file seems to be going on and off (and the link from the main page). Here's Lucas' statement : ============================== =========== I was sad to hear that Alec Guinness passed away today. He was one of the most talented and respected actors of his generation and brought an amazing range and versatility to his work. When I was casting the part of Obi-Wan Kenobi for StarWars, I was looking for an actor who brought a certain authority to the role. Someone who was powerful yet gentle and that came across in Alec as a person and as an actor. The world has lost a great artist. ............ George Lucas Sydney, Australia August 6, 2000
Actor Dies by Norde	Aug 7th, 2000 05:39:42 PM
Two comments from Sir Alec himself that tell us all we need to know about the man.(From the London Daily Telegraph). During the war he served in the Navy protecting convoys in the North Atlantic from U Boats. His comment on this undoubtedly nerve racking (to say the least) experience ...." I gave my best performance,perhaps,during the war, trying to be an officer and a gentleman". Secondly, when asked what obituary he would prefer, his reply was unequivocal " I think if my ghost could hover outside some London Underground station on a foggy November night just as the crowds were pouring down (into the station), I'd like to see the poster, "ACTOR DIES".
Wasn't he already dead? by iamdeadfish	Aug 7th, 2000 06:00:03 PM
I don't mean to sound cold, but it's not like he was cut down in his prime. I hope I can live to 86! That's a good amount of time to be around so I'm not going to be sad about this.
SIR ALEC by O.G. One-Kennobi	Aug 7th, 2000 07:13:33 PM
I, like everyone else sending a comment, am unspeakably saddend with the death of SIR ALEC he was of course obi-wan, but also lived an extremly fruitful life as a not only talented, but respectable career stage and screen. I've read that eveyone remembers all of ALEC's classic films, does anyone else remember "Rise the Titanic"? just kidding, no disrespect intended, he was only in it for like 3 minutes. I will miss the charisma of SIR ALEC and can't stop wishing he participated more on film after star wars than he did. Did anyone else read his Auto-biography from a few years back, it really was a good read. Try checking it out as a sign of respect to an actor, no, a man that I for one wish I'd seen more of. We'll miss you Alec, May the force and everything you ever stood for be with you. LOVE, O.G. ONE-KENNOBI
I sense a disturbance in the force... by Darth_Simonz	Aug 7th, 2000 07:42:56 PM
I was having a good day until I heard this news. My heart goes out to the fans, friends, and especialy the family of one of the greatest actors of our time...
Awww dude... by dan-E	Aug 7th, 2000 08:50:06 PM
... this is harsh. The fanboy in me is wishing that maybe, just maybe, he'll appear to me with that luminous blue halo. But, no... there is another...
I..can't believe he's gone!! by droid	Aug 7th, 2000 09:03:32 PM
Sir Alec, you will truly be missed.
From crew of H.M.S. Arrabella by flanner	Aug 7th, 2000 10:11:13 PM
It was with greatest sorrow that we learned of the passing of our beloved Ccaptain.We are holding a wake in his honor with the finest whiskey (duty free of course, for we are all at sea.)May his great spirit continue to serve as inspiration to all of us, and all of the world.
They are making a movie of Alec Guinness' life by MDH	Aug 7th, 2000 10:16:23 PM
and Christopher Walken has signed on to play him. This is confirmed.
Barnacle Bill by reni	Aug 8th, 2000 03:41:08 AM
I went round to see my mum last night and the repeat of Parkie's interview with Sir Alec was on. I mentioned to her that when I went to see him reading a year ago at The Royal Exchange Theatre I was going to ask him about the James Dean story. I neglected to tell her I'd read about it in an old Mayfair. I thought that was pushing it a bit. As Gabba UK has already mentioned towards the end of the interview Parkie asks him for his thoughts on Star Wars and it was really good to hear him speak quite fondly of it, how innocent he thought all of it was. I'm glad I went last year to see him. He was looking well and the voice was immaculate. I wasn't going to write anything in Talkback because I wanted to keep my thoughts to myself. But watching him last night I thought, no, I'll say something. And watching him last night, I thought Christ, he looks like Grandad... God bless Sir Alec, we'll miss you.
But why... by heckboy	Aug 8th, 2000 09:25:02 AM
... did Obi Wan disappear when Vader sliced him and not cut in half? Why was Vader surprised when Obi Wan faded away? Why didn't vader fade away when he died? How Why did Obi Wan say that if Darth struck him down he'd become "more powerful than you can imageine...," but he didn't?
Why Ben and not Jar Jar! by Darth_Fluffy	Aug 8th, 2000 09:53:35 AM
With the death of Ben Kenobi, the real magic behind Star Wars is dead. Now we are stuck with Har Har Dinks. God Bless you Obiwan Kenobi!!!
Let's give Sir Alec a break by Jonny Quick	Aug 8th, 2000 10:07:18 AM
People are saying things like, "Oh, no, Obi-Wan is dead," and, "Too bad he hated 'Star Wars.'" Well, gang, you know why he hated it? Because it is, as he said, "rubbish." Yes, it's fun, but it's a silly little film, really no better than the serials that inspired its creations. I was 15 when "Star Wars" came out and I enjoyed it, but "The Empire Strikes Back" is a far better film, much more adult and incisive. And I certainly remember Alec Guiness first for other work than "Star Wars," having seen several of his Ealing comedies (notably, "The Man in the White Suit") and "Bridge on the River Kwai" long before SW. I thought it was neat to have Guiness and Peter Cushing in the film, but that's all it was -- neat. And that's all Star Wars was or ever will be -- neat.
Goodnight Sir Alec by Rictus	Aug 8th, 2000 01:41:51 PM
While I understand the good intentions behind those of you who say "Stop making SW references he hated it!" I think you miss a vital point. He was a great actor, with many great films to his name, that is not in question, but Ol' Ben Kenobi is his greatest role, not in acting ability, movie quality etc but in the simple fact of how many lives it touched. Everyone of us can remember Ol' Ben the first time we saw him, for most of us, this was our introduction to brilliant acting and quality actors. How many of you can remember shedding a tear when Ol' Ben was killed by Vader, a simple symbol that taught you one lesson, Death is not the end. Remember the power he brought to the screen. I say this, he may have disliked what SW had become, but he could not hate the mark he had left on so many lives. What is so horrible about being fondly remembered as part of the collective childhoods of millions? I ask you that. What is so horrible about it? I can think of no greater tribute to a man or an actor than the legacy that Sir Alec left behind for millions of us and millions of our children who will eventually be born and some day watch this brilliant man in by far his greatest moment. Ben Kenobi, the man who shaped the minds of a generation and taught us the difference of good and evil and is still teaching our children and someday our children's children.
In Star Wars he taught me anything was possible. . . by ThereIsNoSpoon	Aug 8th, 2000 02:08:21 PM
But since he hated it so damn much how about this - "Good night, sweet prince, and flights of angels see thee to thy rest. . ."
Let me tell you why Alec Guiness' performance as Obi-Wan is impo by Skywalker,Anakin	Aug 8th, 2000 08:36:36 PM
Star Wars was a movie that showed that filmmaking had no boundaries to be imaginative and yet believable. Withouth Alec Guinness, the believable aspect of it wouldn't be so strong. It takes a wonderful skilled actor to say lines like "It's like a million voices suddenly screamed out in terror...and were suddenly silenced", and make you believe it. Without Guiness, Star Wars would be the equivalent to Star Trek, but Sir Alec rose that standard. George Lucas may have thought of the concept of the Jedi Knights, but sir Alec made them belivable. that is what makes Alec Guiness different (at least for me) from every other actor in his generation. He was the only one capable of doing Star Wars. and even though he percieved it as one of the "low points" of his career, I think he underestimated the impact his performance had on many of us. That is why I feel no shame in saying, with tears in my eyes, "May the Force be with you, always Sir Alec Guiness." I will dedicate my Star Wars fan film to the first Jedi Knight, whose performance drew millions into the ranks of the Jedi.
Agreat actor and great man has left this wretched hive of scum a by mstryoda	Aug 8th, 2000 08:50:48 PM
it's time to say goodbye to an old friend who taugh us the meaning of acting with style, class, and dignity.
Homage from Captain Kirk Himself by Darth Brooks	Aug 8th, 2000 11:57:52 PM
No less than The Shatner has posted an Ode to Obi Wan. It's at http://disney.go.com/disneyvid eos/Cartoons/buzzlightyear/to_ infinity.html
To A Fallen Knight... by kreesu	Aug 9th, 2000 12:26:05 AM
I will raise a glass to Sir Smiley and all his people. May they entertain us forever more.
Darth Brooks by Dave_F	Aug 9th, 2000 02:29:06 AM
Well, I don't know if Shatner's rendition of Buzz Lightyear's theme song can be considered the ideal tribute to Alec Guinness, but in this mixed-up, nutty, crazy, cuckoo world, maybe...just maybe...it IS. Dear Lord, that song is gonna be running through my head for the next week or so, and God help me...I love it! The emotional build-up, the rousing conclusion...Talkbackers, you must follow the link! Well done, Brooks. http://disney.go.com/disneyvid eos/Cartoons/buzzlightyear/to_ infinity.html
Quit the Guinness worshiping. by Flint2	Aug 9th, 2000 07:46:53 PM
First of all, I'm very sad that Alec Guiness passed away. We truly lost a great actor. Star Wars, Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia, the man was an acting LEGEND. Like many others here, I don't need to go into detail about the nostalgia he gave me as a 12 year old kid in his very subtle and skilled portrayal of Obi Wan. I'm also impressed that he was married to the same woman since 1938. There. Now for my editorial on some of the hypocrisy being spewed here. Did we lose a great actor? Yes. Did we lose a great MAN? Hmmmm. I'd say Guiness in his old age was as much of a hypocrite as he was an acting legend. I'm absolutely floored at the praise he gave SW years ago in comparison to the interviews and book snippets mentioned by the other posters here in comparison to the bile he spewed at SW, Lucas, and SW fans in later years. You call that the trait of a GREAT MAN? Give me a break. I call it being an inconsistent, bitter old jackass. Do you put someone on a pedestal who says one thing and then another? NO. You call that person's judgement and principle into question, you sure as heck don't call him a great man. My dad yesterday had a very interesting take on Guiness's hate for SW which he only found out about the other day. He looked surprised and said to me: "Why would he be angry when it gave him a chance to be recognized again?" Really? Think about it. We'll never know how many Obi Wan fans became Guiness fans in later years and checked out his other work because of how much they enjoyed his portrayal of Obi Wan in ANH. Do you think that kid who Guiness told never to watch SW again then wanted to check out Guiness's other work after that? Probably not. He was just being your typical, good old fashioned dorky little kid trying to IMPRESS Guinness with the non-accomplishment that he'd seen SW over a hundred times. So Guiness, instead of encouraging the kid to see his other movies in a POSITIVE way, made himself every bit as childish as that kid by telling him to never watch SW again. An old man who gradually became more childish and less joyful as the years went on is my take. Here's an ironic take on Guiness's poor attitude in later years that you can take from the guy who played YOUNG Obi Wan, Ewan McGregor. Last year in GQ magazine, Ewan McGregor was doing a good job of being honest as usual. I can't remember how it came up, but McGregor commented on what he thought of David Letterman these days. I can't quote him exactly but this is 99.9% close to what he said about young Dave and old Dave "He used to be a very funny man who did a good job entertaining but now he's just a bitter old man who doesn't care about his work." And that not only sums up Dave's anemic Late Show format in recent years (which used to have the BEST late night skits on TV now has the most boring and incoherent set ups ever) but it also sums up Guiness pretty well. Judging from all the interviews where he praised SW years ago and to his hate for Lucas and Sw in later years, Guiness used to be a positive guy but then he became a bitter, jealous old man, bitter about SW and jealous of its success which in NO WAY spoils or ruins his record of films. Do you think Spielberg cares that most of his fans would rather watch ET and Jurassic Park than Schindler's List? No. Because Spielberg knows like we do, that ET and JP in no way detract from what a great film Schindler's List was. In the same vein, SW in NO WAY detracted from the QUALITY OF WORK Guiness did in his acting career. Guiness instead allowed his constant griping about SW and insulting of Lucas (I believe he once made an unbelievably lame comment along the lines of "The Force will always be with us no matter how bad George Lucas screws it up." Kind of hypocrtical considering he LIKED his role in SW at one time.) to overshadow his other personal work to many people. SW in no way damages what Guinness accomplished. It just adds to an amazing career full of MANY other movies. If old men who do nothing but TALK about SW like overobssesed Trekkies are annoying, then so is an old man who wouldn't shut up about SW in comparison to his legacy. Sure, Guiness had a right to hope people would recognize him for his other work, but he just made his own situation WORSE with his immaturity which brings me to another point. To the people here calling Guiness a great man because he "had the guts to slam Star Wars," give it a rest. You have no idea how lame that sounds. Consider this. Guiness may have been "brave enough" (yeah what a public martyr) to sling mud at SW, Lucas and the fans but look at the tribute Lucas gave to him on the official site. It's still there. It's brief but George words it very well. I'm actually surprised Lucas decided to give a tribute to Guinness with all the crap Guiness gave him. Consider this, if Guiness had an internet site along the line of McKellan's site, do YOU think he would have put a similar WARM TRIBUTE is Lucas died? NO. If Lucas died, Guiness probably would never have said anything at all about it and even if he did, he'd make an announcement toasting George saying something along the lines of: "It's too bad George died. But he sure was an annoying chap the way he bossed me around and made me do my job on the set of SW." Which brings me to another point. Guiness was so obbsessed with the SW legacy compared to his own, he even went so far as to call lines like "He was a great Jedi and a good friend," "Who's more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows it?" ect. ect. "rubbish" which is a slap against the imagination of ALL filmaking by anyone. You can gripe all you want about your hate of Lucas, but you have to admit, it takes great character indeed to post a tribute to a whiny actor who constantly insulted you and your work and who went back on everything he said about your work previously out of jealousy and bitterness. So you can talk all you want about Guinness being a great actor because he was. But don't praise him for slinging mud at Lucas, his fans, and for being a bitter old man. Posting a tribute to someone who tore you a new one on regular occasions, now THERE is great character. Anyways, I don't worship ANYBODY involved with SW. Ewan and Neeson both have had there small gripes here and there about how technically grueling TPM was, but Neeson admitted in a recent interview that he'd still love to be in the next two movies and Ewan has been very polite and friendly to the SW (read: non-obbssesive reasonable fans) fans he's met on the street according to all the accounts I've read from fans who say they've met him. So, SW may have a lot more of the "craft" in it and may be strenuously and technically mapped out by Lucas, but that's tough. Becausenot all movies are made the same way. Some like SW and the Matrix rely more on the melding of both the story and the most technical aspects. Anyways, I only see movies to see how an actor did his JOB and how well he did it and how well the story was portrayed. I don't usually gripe about a star's behavior but Guinness was over the top bitter and was every bit as obbssed with the SW legacy as any SW fan. Just in a negative way. E-mail me all you want. I don't even use my AICN e-mail. Anyways, just as Guiness has inspired me to see his other work, Lucas' love of the Kurosawa films has made me decide to check out the Seven Samuarai for the first time this weekend. And I didn't have to wade through ANY immature insults from Lucas or Kurosawa before deciding to see this movie now did I? Sure, Guiness's hate for SW and Lucas in later years is a for the most part, a very small aspect in an otherwise very full life. But don't call him a great man or a maverick for it. You don't praise people for hypocrisy and petty mud slinging. He was a great actor and because of that his death is a sad loss. But the fact that he apparently allowed himself to become a bitter old man makes the loss even sadder. And no BasherkillsRrite, Guinness's comments were NOT some "media ploy." They were all 100% genuine and straight from his mouth. He has only himself to blame, not the media, for being seen as bitter and angry.
Check out Starwars.com for "Alec Guiness Remembered" by Blue Devil	Aug 10th, 2000 10:41:33 AM
It's pretty lame in my opinion.
What about George Smiley? by hajk	Aug 10th, 2000 11:46:54 AM
Yes, it was a TV series but he really brought to life the character of George Smiley from John LeCarre's novels. This was part that he played so well as to alter the author's perception of the character in the last novel which was written after the first series appeared. LeCarre ended up friends with Guiness as a result of the serialisation.
May the force be with you... by Devolver	Aug 10th, 2000 12:22:29 PM
That's all I wanted to say. My respects.

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