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I am looking foward to this by GravyAkira	Jul 11th, 2000 01:15:58 AM
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Let's see how fuckin' funny Mr. Bender is five years from now?! by Syd Mead	Jul 11th, 2000 01:26:15 AM
Fer Christ's sake Molly Ringwald needs some work...in fact, ALL the alum from the Breakfast Club could use a pay check !! It wasn't like BC was Gone With The Wind... a cheesy straight to video with a naked Molly and a liquered up Alley would be good for some laughs. I give Mr. Hughes my blessing. Get Joel Schumacher or Chris Coumbus to direct.--Syd.
THE BREAKFAST CLUB REMAKE: SHANNON ELIZABETH in the MOLLY RINGWA by GEEKBASHER 3.0	Jul 11th, 2000 03:57:10 AM
I couldn't help but notice how much Shannon Elizabeth was giving me MOLLY RINGWALD for days in Scary Movie..I think she would be FABBBB-UUUUU in a BREAKFAST CLUB remake as the beauty queen! That girl, oh what the fuck is her name, you know...The Faculty, oh yeah Clea Duvall or something like that would be AWESOME in the ALLY SHEEDY ROLE, and Honestly I hope they don't cast Freddie Talent-less JR in the remake because he would just RUIN IT!!!! Unbreakable trailer...THE KID meets Shaft??? I hope not!!
The Breakfast Club by METHOS	Jul 11th, 2000 03:58:01 AM
"Could you describe the ruckus, sir?"
I'm NOT going to be first in line... by CRM-114	Jul 11th, 2000 07:23:55 AM
...because M. Night Shyalaman isn't all that great, and The Sixth Sense was a manipulative piece of crap. OK, the plot twist doesn't work. I think that's been discussed...Haley Joel Osment wasn't afraid of Bruce Willis, and he should have been, because he should've appeared as he did when he died, with blood all over his back and gaping entrance and exit wounds. Anyway. The plot twist also manipulates you into thinking The Sixth Sense is a good movie. The plot twist really has no affect on the rest of the movie. It's just tacked on (it was an afterthought, too; in an old Entertainment Weekly, M. Night described how the twist didn't make it in the script until draft four or five) to an otherwise unoriginal movie. You remove the ending, and the movie is still complete. Think about it. Sans the twist, the movie would still be a whole. All the twist really does to the rest of the film is explain why his wife is being so cold in that ONE scene in the restaurant. Now, think about that whole, twistless film. Unoriginal crap. Kid who sees dead people. Cheap scares -- the cabinets are all suddenly open! Oh, no! What the hell did that mean? Nothing! It was a cheap scare! Was it a ghost looking for pop tarts? Who knows? Why didn't Haley Joel let out a shreik or something? Also, the subplot with the girl being murdered by her mother. Left hanging. So the father finds out, and we cut away and that's the last we see of it. No motivation, no wrap up, nothing. A horrible loose end if there ever was one. This movie, without the twist, sucks. Then, we have the twist, everyone in the theater is completely surprised. They leave thinking about only the twist (and maybe Osment's performance, which, I admit, was incredible, and the film's one real merit)and are fooled completely! But the REASON no one saw it coming was because it was completely meaningless! This was not a movie about the poor psychiatrist, this was about a down and out kid with a problem. There was far too little plot emphasis on Bruce Willis' plight to make us think long enough to see it coming. Then, we get the twist, and everyone's amazed. This was audience manipulation at its worst, and I feel a deep anger towards the sixth sense for earning so many undeserved admirers, dollars and oscar noms. Oh, yeah, and also, the kid saw AND heard dead people, so shouldn't it have been "The Sixth and Seventh Senses"?
CRM-114 by Splinter	Jul 11th, 2000 07:43:52 AM
"I feel a deep anger towards the sixth sense for earning so many undeserved admirers, dollars and oscar noms." Get a fucking life mate. A DEEP anger? ITS A FUCKING MOVIE YOU FUCKING FRUITCAKE! And a damn fine one at that! Were you fired from the set or something? Did Willis insult your mother? Do you see dead people and are pissed that Osment stole your thunder? RELAX!
It'll never hold, sir--the door is WAY too heavy... by George McFly	Jul 11th, 2000 07:54:14 AM
I have to disagree majorly with Harry on this one. I, for one, am extremely excited about another Breakfast Club. As a child of the 80's, I was 16 when this puppy hit, so it had a major effect on me. It was and still is a film very near and dear to my heart. I don't know if I like the idea of a "remake" so much, though. A sequel could be thought of as a sort-of remake, I suppose--just stop and think about it. What cliques or types of kids were not portrayed in the first film, or weren't prevalent then? Think of a Breakfast Club with the overweight kid everyone picks on, but we learn how much he's hurting inside, especially when he's got a crush on a cheerleader that he knows would never go for him. Or maybe a troubled youth who made threats about violence, something very 90's (or 00's, as I should say). You could go on and on. Of course, I'd love for the original cast to somehow be involved. I'd love to see Bender go into the custodial arts after all so he could make an appearance. And I wouldn't be surprised if the same teacher were still stuck supervising those Saturday detentions...maybe Bender the janitor can help the keys screw him over once again. Bottom line is, I think there's lots of places this could go, but if at its heart its about teens from different backgrounds coming together and having their eyes opened about each other, then I'm all for it. And I think we need a film like that more than ever in today's world. McFly
Sixth Sense Rocked by 69sniper	Jul 11th, 2000 08:49:00 AM
If this film is even half as good as the Sixth Sense it should be brilliant.Listening M Night talk on the SS DVD and he impressed me quite a bit, I can't wait.
I Am Gonna Be First In Line!! by Duty	Jul 11th, 2000 10:04:30 AM
The Sixth Sense did everything a movie needs to do to be great. If you have a tick card, Play it!! if not shut up and loose the game. So what if "the twist" made the movie. Good "twists" always make the move. Man, Complain about a great plot twist...what is the world coming too....mental note: "Do Not Read Anything Morialty Writes About Unbreakable" the spoiling little bitch -Duty
The Breakfast Club by Se	Jul 11th, 2000 10:43:57 AM
I have such a DEEP admiration for guys who roll around on the floor with udder guys
Harry? Oh, that's a fat girl's name... by KingMenthol	Jul 11th, 2000 11:31:53 AM
Remake shmeemake. To the guy above, as a child of the '80s, how can you support this sort of remake/update? First, everything, and I mean EVERYTHING about The Breakfast Club is perfect. Every actor is now the embodiment of their descriptions in the final essay in my mind. Easily, the finest work of all 5 of their careers (not to mention the principal and Carl the Janitor). Second, there are no actors around that could duplicate those performances, or come close to the emotion each one brought to the role. I mean, can anyone see Sean William Scott or Joshua Jackson pulling off Emilio's "WIN, WIN!!" scene? Can pseudo-Loser Jason Biggs geek it up better than Anthony Michael Hall? Problem is there are so few young actors who seem to bring depth enough to go from comedy to the purest tears and rages the way those 5 did. Finally, there is absolutely no good reason at all for this redux. The movie still entertains highschoolers now! To me, all a remake/update would do is pointlessly diminish and devalue the original performances. Maybe do it in 10 years. Not now. I might just lose my temper. If I lose my temper you're totaled. Totally.
"My God, are we gonna be like our parents?" by Shrevie	Jul 11th, 2000 12:35:52 PM
According to Hughes, the new Breakfast Club will look in on the characters nearly twenty years later. THIS I wanna see. Here's my predictions: Claire (Ringwald): Finished college where she majored in Japanese studies. Now a suburban housewife, twenty-five pounds heavier, with three kids, married to VP of sales at her father's company. Drinks a little now and then. Brian (Hall): Went to M.I.T. on scholarship but dropped out in middle of second year, disillusioned with the system. Travelled around the far-east for several years, then returned to U.S. and settled in Arizona where he started a popular dot-com designed to help troubled teens. No longer speaks with parents. Andy (Estevez): Threw out his knee first month at college and lost athletic scholarship. Now works as a civil-servant at the Chicago Parks & Recreations department. Overweight, recent AA member. Divorced father of a nine-year old son who shows a talent for baseball. Allison (Sheedy): Happy, successful novelist. Winner of the Booker Prize and the PEN-Faulkner Award, she lives and works in Chicago with her filmmaker husband and her two beautiful children. Bender (Nelson): Prosecutor for the Chicago D.A.'s office. Has won more cases than any attorney in the office's history. Constantly turns down offers to join higher-paying, more prestigious law firms, choosing to fight to off-set the injustices of the American legal system. Has never married but dates many of Chicago's most elligible women. Was featured in People magazine's 1995 "Fifty Most Beautiful People" issue and an episode of Oprah Winfrey called "Everyday Heroes". ...In the sequel, The Club reunites for the funeral of Richard "Dick" Vernon (Gleason) who has commited suicide.
I wonder what the surprise twist will be? by Psyclops	Jul 11th, 2000 02:04:29 PM
Hey, If Bruce Willis is the polar opposite of Sam Jackson's character in this movie, and Bruce is a supposed superhero...than what deos that make Sam Jackson? Things that make you go...HHHMMMMMMMM????
CRM-114, you are a total N-U-T - J-O-B. by Alien Gonzales	Jul 11th, 2000 02:55:54 PM
Splinter hit the nail right on the head. "Deep Anger", WTF?. Perhaps you assuage this rage (IWAPADKI) by reading your Large print version of Taxi Driver out loud whilst violently stroking to the rythm (heh) of Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture". Seek help now. (with real people, not lovingly crafted ear-wax charicatures of your favourite Babtylon 5 characters)
Cole didn't know Crowe was a ghost... by Crapiola	Jul 11th, 2000 03:57:31 PM
Come on, guys. So Crowe is so unthreatening and so nice that the little scardey kid decides to try and see if he can talk to the ghost... Yeah, right! Cole didn't know Crowe was a ghost till later on. The kid was scared crapless of ghosts and he asked Crowe to stay with him till he falls asleep when they were in the hospital. Crowe was also not emotional in the presence of the kid, so Cole never felt the temperature change. Crowe: "I think you should talk to the ghosts and see what they want." Cole: "What if they are angry or want to hurt me?" Crowe: "I don't think it works like that." Yeah, I'm sure Cole thought Crowe was a ghost. NOT! I don't know when Cole realized that Crowe was a ghost, but it was not at that point, that's for sure.
Theaters? by Joe Buck	Jul 11th, 2000 04:01:14 PM
But when will it be in theaters? I never remember to watch Access or ET.
Breakfast club remake? It would kill the original Actors!!!! by Maynard	Jul 11th, 2000 05:38:25 PM
Why the fuck would anyone with half a brain want to re-make a silly retarded movie like The Breakfast Club? Why not leave it alone? Crap, Molly Ringwald probably thinks it was her best performance aside from pretty in pink. All of those actors would be emotionally crushed. Judge Nelson may have to castrate himself in front of his mother if there is ever another re-make. Ally Sheedy may change her sex all together (i kind of like her the way she is). Emilio Estevez and Anthony Michael Hall may have to get married or make a gay porno or something to compete with all the pandemonium and heartbreak. Just you wait and see. There might even be suicides, or at least a heroin addiction to come from a re-make. Maybe 16 Candle boy will actually turn into the trashcan man and burn old lady Semple's pension check, as he screams, "I did it for youuuuuuu!" Please, no remake of this pretty little package we call The Breakfast Club. My wife would die 'cause she's such a huge fan.
Sixth Sense; sooo overrated by Paulzy	Jul 11th, 2000 05:57:58 PM
Hasn't anybody seen the movie "Jacobs Ladder"? If they had, they would have figured out what the plot twist was the minute they saw Bruce get shot point blank in the stomach. The rest of the movie was just filler until the ending, and pretty damn boring. However, I am the only person I know with this opinion. Everybody else loved it.
Sixth Sense; sooo overrated by Paulzy	Jul 11th, 2000 05:58:40 PM
Hasn't anybody seen the movie "Jacobs Ladder"? If they had, they would have figured out what the plot twist was the minute they saw Bruce get shot point blank in the stomach. The rest of the movie was just filler until the ending, and pretty damn boring. However, I am the only person I know with this opinion. Everybody else loved it.
As long as there is another fun dance montage... by CharlesPalantine	Jul 11th, 2000 06:37:37 PM
then I'm all for "BC2"
Simple explanation (here we go again) for Sixth Sense. by superninja	Jul 11th, 2000 07:28:20 PM
Every other ghost that Cole comes across KNOWS they are dead, and needs him to do something for them so they can pass on. But only ONE ghost in the film still believes he's alive. Can you guess which ghost that is?
Wowee zowee! I thought Sixth Sense worked just fine. by superninja	Jul 11th, 2000 07:36:26 PM
Bruce Willis' entire motivation was to redeem himself for failing that ONE KID, who blew his brains out in front of him. This is the coolest part of the script!!! The fact that this kid who sees dead people is really helping him, and he doesn't know it until the VERY END OF THE FILM. The entire film, Willis' character thinks he's making up for past mistakes by helping this boy come to terms with his disorder. It's what brought the man's life crashing down around his head, and it's why he couldn't believe he was dead after he'd been shot. His wife obviously wasn't the most important thing in his life, and we're shown this by his dedication to his work. He misses her, but he believes she's moved onto someone else. And he doesn't like it, but what does he do? He keeps working with the kid, because that's what his life (and death apparently) was about. He doesn't try to get his wife back. This was a GREAT, GREAT film, with good work by Willis -- better stuff than he's done in a long time.
Fan B.S. by Buzz Maverik	Jul 11th, 2000 07:57:50 PM
Two Breakfast Club sequel scenarios (no remakes, no updates):a) the club finds themselves snowed-in at O'Hare, waiting for flights to get the hell out of Shermer. Why were they all there? I don't know. Somebody give me a million bucks and I'll figure it out. 2) Interconnecting stories of the Club, now adults, with individual members running into each other from time to time (and Carl and Dick) but never meeting as a group. They all keep just missing each other in the same places. You read 'em here first. If John Hughes uses these, I'm hiring Johnny Cochrane (he never loses) and getting my ten million.
CRM by matthewcable	Jul 11th, 2000 08:25:48 PM
here's support for you, pal - for the record, i loved SS, but i did have a nagging feeling that the ending was tacked on - however, in defence of m night, i found that the twist gave an extra dimension to who was helping whom - hence, my ultimate verdict that it was a good film. yes, i'm disagreeing with you, but i started this post by offering my support - what i mean is, your post was informative and thought provoking, and the other posters ought to respond by taking up the debate, not yelling at you to get a life. since you are obviously demanding when it comes to movie stories, i would like to hear which recent films have come up to scratch for you. to take just the example of the last film i saw on VCD, "the limey" [soderberg/stamp/fonda] - i liked the way stamp found to his horror a mirror in his antagonist - have you seen it? your take?
John Hughes is a WHORE!!! by FAT BOY	Jul 11th, 2000 08:41:27 PM
The Breakfast Club is an all-time classic. Everything John Hughes has done since Baby's Day Out tells me he has completely lost it.
More on the Sixth Sense, and oooh! I've started a debate! by CRM-114	Jul 11th, 2000 11:07:46 PM
OK, first off, I think it's deliciously ironic that Splinter says I shouldn't have deep anger over a film, but then calls me a "FUCKING FRUITCAKE." Apparently, deep anger over my response to movies is OK? Now. Bruce isn't the only ghost who thinks he's still alive, what about the kid who shot himself in the head? Also, what did he want from Osment? As for Willis' relationship with his wife, until the twist, we thought that she was just being cold to him because he wasn't a very good husband. My problem is this, exactly. This was perfectly acceptable to us throughout the film. The twist only CHANGES her motivations for cheating, silence, etc. Until we know Willis is a ghost, we HAVE an answer. In the Usual Suspects, we are wondering the whole way about Keyser Soze. Who is he? Where is he? Is he Keaton? The twist answers these questions in a completely unforseen way. In The Sixth Sense, we have no questions to be answered about Bruce, we just have a mean wife whose emotions are suddenly changed, thereby making the twist everything I said before. As for the kid's being afraid of him, sure, he was at first, but he gave up this fear too easily and started conversing. Beyond all this, no one can argue that most of the scares aren't just cheap shots (The kitchen cabinets being the best example) that mean little, like any run-of-the-mill horror flick.
matthewcable by CRM-114	Jul 11th, 2000 11:09:23 PM
Oh, yeah, and I want to thank you for being a civilized talkbacker and also, I loved The Limey, I thought it was wonderfully written, acted, and put together, and Terrence Stamp is just amazing.
Sixth Sense by Elliot_Kane	Jul 12th, 2000 07:30:41 AM
The whole point of the Sixth Sense as a film is to demonstrate the idea that our perceptions define our reality. Bruce wears the long coat all the time to hide the gunshot wound - which is still visible, as seen at the end. Throughout the film he has no contact with any other character than Haley's in any situation. Because of the way we perceive each situation, we automatically accept this. Bruce at the young girl's funeral is there to support Haley, so he has no interaction with the other guests. He is late for his anniversary dinner with his wife, and her comment - "Happy Anniversary" - we perceive as being aimed at him when she is actually mourning him. We do not even question the fact that Bruce always wears the long coat, as it is clearly winter. When Bruce and Haley first meet, Haley runs because he knows Bruce is a ghost, but Bruce's greater confidence and obviously friendly nature win him over. For a while it is possible that Haley even fools himself into thinking Bruce is alive - he does not after all look or act like a ghost, and most people prefer to believe a comforting lie if the truth is too horrible. Only at the end are we shown that our perceptions are awry, that reality is not at all the way we thought it to be. That is what makes SS a great film
to CMR23465434?? by kingpin	Jul 12th, 2000 01:54:17 PM
you said that the scene with the mother who killed her kid had a huge loose end. That's not true. THat scene was very importand cause now the kid has finally talked to dead people, trying to help them and come to terms with his gift. After that scene it is very likely that he realises that Willis is a ghost also. No loose ends, you just have to keep up with the pace
I loved the "cheap shots" worked great. by superninja	Jul 12th, 2000 01:58:19 PM
I was totally spooked by the way they shot that scene. The mom goes into the laundry room, they shoot the scene with the everyday bustle that life has (hand held camera?), and they she comes back into the kitchen and everything (camera included) is PERFECTLY still and every drawer and cabinet is open. I wonder what you think of Hitchcock's "cheap shots" like using a photograph for the shower scene in Psycho -- wow, that's CHEAP! If that's cheap, then I'll take it over CGI any day of the week.
More on The Sixth Sense by CRM-114	Jul 12th, 2000 04:24:09 PM
By cheap shots, I don't mean inexpensive. I mean, that it wasn't worth anything. What did it mean? What was the point? Who opened all the drawers? Why didn't we hear anything about it from Osment? A cheap scare, it frightens us for a moment and is then forgotten. Osment, of course, SHOULD have known that Willis is a ghost all along, because we see Willis through is own eyes, sans blood, but to Osment, he should have been ghastly since he first met him. As for the murdered daughter, let me rephrase my gripe. That was a filler subplot used to show us that Osment was learning to help the dead people, in this case by getting the tape of the girl's poisoning. But the subplot not of Osment's relationship with the girl but of the mother and the father is left hanging. The father watches the tape and is shocked, and we cut away as he confrons the mother.
more on sixthsense2 by kingpin	Jul 12th, 2000 05:54:42 PM
what else could you wish for? another endless scene in which the father freaks out and beats up the mother? How in hell do you want the scene to end. It's over, done for. Now stop argueing(?) about it and come up with something clever.
elliot kane has the dvd by kingpin	Jul 12th, 2000 05:57:17 PM
that's for sure, so do I. Wonder if RCh12134 what's his name has it too. not likely
Does Barry Manilow know you raid his wardrobe? by elcie1	Jul 13th, 2000 12:50:08 AM
Generally, as we all know, sequels suck. Leave BC alone!

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