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Sam Lowry's Clone takes a read of M Night's UNBREAKABLE

Now I see the end coming... by nightsir	Apr 4th, 2000 03:57:25 AM
The two sides of the coin meld at the end, merging in a flash of light and out comes... not Sir Ian McKellen in some lame Magneto-garb...no...not Oliver Reed drinking booze and fucking them ladies the hard way...nope...BUT another bad movie. I don't see anything original in this. Thanks, man. I`ll save those bucks.
Johnny Depp Director of the Classic The Brave! Ha Ha Ha by Dirtfish	Apr 4th, 2000 04:08:59 AM
Is the Sixth Sense really that good? Personally I don't think it is, the so called 'Twist' at the end was so easy to spot. I guessed it 20 mins into the film and for the entire rest of the film I sat hoping it would be a double bluff. But sadly it wasn't. Fight Club had a much better 'Twist' for my money!
Yeah, Right, You All Saw the Ending of the Sixth Sense Coming... by Buzz Maverik	Apr 4th, 2000 05:50:17 AM
...and were the only ones not surprised. As a mere mortal, I'll just say that UNBREAKABLE sounds awesome, something worth looking forward to, and miles ahead of most of the dreck that passes for film these days.
The problem with the ending of 6th Sense by I am_NOTREAL	Apr 4th, 2000 06:57:22 AM
...was that everyone told you there was some kind of twist at the end, so I spent the whole movie looking for the set-up. After awhile I thought, "why does Bruce Willis never actually speak with an adult, and why do no adults ever react to him?" That was about halfway in. But what "Sense" had going for it were good, atmospheric scenes like the very beginning, where the wife gets creeped out by the noise in the cellar...really good stuff, if "The Haunting" had followed that approach instead of trying to do everything with CGI it might not have been the damn dirty ape that it was. If "Unbreakable" has a chance at any moments like that it'll be worth considering, at least. They call me Mr. Touchdown...I played a little football at Notre Dame!
Waitasecondthere... by Kraven	Apr 4th, 2000 07:04:20 AM
Jeez, that Elijah chacater sounds verey similar in many ways to Jack Kirby's BLACK RACER character from D.C.'s NEW GODS.
About people who say they "guessed" the ending of Sixth Sense... by gilmour	Apr 4th, 2000 07:07:44 AM
I'm soooooo sick of hearing people telling me how they saw the ending right away and don't understand how someone could be fooled. Yet at the same time they admit all their friends told them about the great "twist Ending". Don't patting yourself on the back! The fact that someone told you there is a big twist ending is itself a major spoiler. I wish these same people could have seen the film like I did: Not knowing a damn about the film and seeing it before the hype and before it officially opened. Oh and the plot of "Unbreakable" sounds great!
I knew about the twist in THE SIXTH SENSE by twindaggerturkey	Apr 4th, 2000 07:22:22 AM
only because I read a review by John "Monkey's Ass" Simon which gave it away before I saw the movie. I didn't see the twist in FIGHT CLUB coming, though. And don't compare them, they both rule.
Smartalecs!glad I don't have a sixth sense... by Skytalker	Apr 4th, 2000 07:32:36 AM
cuz then I would have guessed the ending. Ignorance truly can be a bliss sometimes. When I saw 6th sense it was way way before the opening of the film in my hometown and all the hype had not reached our northern shores...all I knew that Bruce Willis was in it. In fact I was afraid that it would be something along the lines of Mercury Rising (god that fil sucked). So anyway, it was a chilling experience and the ending was just a sugar on top. I did not see the twist coming and I'm glad for it. There's much more to the film than just the ending. That Osment dude gotta be the most gifted child actor I
Go ahead and say it.... by SeVen Higgins	Apr 4th, 2000 08:09:12 AM
I want all the pychics, critics, and doom-sayers to go ahead and say this movie is going to suck, this is going to be the worst movie of all time, after only reading a few paragraphs from someone who read a rough draft of a not completed script. I swear some of you guys should use your "abilities" for the good of society, like predicting earthquake and stock market plunges. And if someone gets mad at me again I live in Japan so save your threats for when you fly to Tokyo and meet me.
Don't get me wrong, I thought SIXTH SENSE was great... by Roguewriter	Apr 4th, 2000 09:12:46 AM
... but I honestly have to wonder about serious movie buffs who didn't see that ending telegraphed pretty much from the first 10-15 minutes on. It was NO surprise to me whatsoever. I know a lot of casual moviegoers who were blown away (and I admit, the real fun of my second and third viewings was watching those casual viewers get simply knocked out by the realization) but damn -- that sort of shock-twist is as old as O. Henry. Did the rabid film fans who haunt AICN Talkback REALLY not see it coming?
News for you, nubs! by tv`snick	Apr 4th, 2000 09:24:47 AM
Knowing a movie's ending is not a sign of intelligence, so quit masturbating yourselves with the phrase "I figured out the ending to the Sixth Sense before the opening credits." Yeah, sure you did. Because everyone said, "Oh, there's this great twist." Or "You'll never guess what's up with Bruce Willis' character." You're all a bunch of nubs. I figured out the ending... about two minutes before it was revealed. And I'm still smarter than you, so you can continue to wallow in your ingorant nubity.
The Twist Of THE SIXTH SENSE by mrbeaks	Apr 4th, 2000 09:28:54 AM
It was a textbook use of a "perception shift," which is taught in many dramatic writing courses. Usually, such a device is used to more effectively construct a scene, but Shyamalan, being a very ambitious fellow, decided to structure his entire script upon it. He would've fooled me, too, had he not written some of the most stilted dialogue this side of Joe Eszterhaus for that opening scene, which allowed me to distance myself from the characters, and wonder where the story was going. I wasn't aware there was a twist coming, but I could, um, sense Shyamalan was up to something. Lo, and behold, I guessed correctly. On the whole, I thought THE SIXTH SENSE was a creepy, but ultimately empty, ghost story, aided immesurably by Tak Fujimoto's excellent cinematography. As for Shyamalan..... he's an obviously gifted writer, and UNBREAKABLE sounds intriguing. I look forward to seeing how it comes together.
A guess at the ending... by lostoptimist	Apr 4th, 2000 09:35:02 AM
I read the post and have skipped some of the talkbacks that have 'spoiler' in them so I'm not cheating so here is me aforementioned **SPOILER ALERT** My guess at the ending is A)Sam Jackson is really Bruce Willis' character and he is the one who is invincible and Bruce is the one who is easily hurt, or B) The whole movie is one big comic book. It ends with a still shot and we draw back from a comic book and see a giant hand with pen and ink in his hand and realize that the whole story was written by a comic book writer, or C)It's the FIGHT CLUB ending. Bruce and Sam are the same person. Yin and yang. Black and white, so to speak, a fractured personality. There, those are my guesses. Now do I win anything if I'm right?
Another post aimed at those who "guessed" the ending... by Loki Trickster	Apr 4th, 2000 09:58:31 AM
Okay, maybe for those of you who saw it after the fantastic opening weekend, or who knew big chunks of the movie plot ahead of time could guess it; but I saw it opening night, and I didn't know anything about it...and I just sat back and let the movie tell a damn good story, which at the end made sense...yes, there are great moments of setup that make perfect sense in retrospect...everyone who's seen it remembers them now...but very few people guessed the ending without help...and if you did...lah di freaking dah, the important thing is, what did you think of the entire movie, not focusing on the trick ending. -Loki
I read this script a month ago and the rewrites had BETTER inclu by Jonathan London	Apr 4th, 2000 10:01:26 AM
2 buddies and I went over this first draft a month ago and the ending is what needs work. The majority of the script is spent convincing David (and the audience) that this isn't all just a large form of coincidence that he hasn't been injured before. Then, the end of the script is the superhero in action portion and the twist ending just comes out of no where and made me sit up and say ala South Park: "This is FUCKING WEAK!" Up until the last 20 pages the script is very good except for the relationship worries listed above. A part where David's son and David prove what he is is fairly touching but soon turns intense. For the most part, this script WAS good but the last 20 or so pages need work because they feel rushed and weak. The twist was lame and felt forced like he had to do it after the 6th Sense's. Take it from me M. You don't need it. Figure out how to finish the movie strong instead. Right now it just feels rushed. I loved 6th Sense so I trust that this one'll be fixed. If it is, it'd be a kick ass Super Hero origin film. Anybody readin' Top Cow's Rising Stars? Well, this could be a movie version of one of the characters from there. Shit. Sorry for the long post but I had to speak my mind on the ending. Whew. Can't wait till the LOTR clip hits the web!
RE: Roguewriter by mrbeaks	Apr 4th, 2000 10:49:40 AM
Actually, I was only one of a few of my friends who figured out the twist to THE SIXTH SENSE. Most people I know, however, many of whom are excellent, highly perceptive writers, were completely bowled over by the ending. Doesn't make me smarter, or a better writer. Just happened to catch it.....
The Ending of 6th Sense by TelstarMan	Apr 4th, 2000 10:58:00 AM
Okay, I realize this is likely to just cause more hostility, but I was one of those who figured out the ending to 6th Sense. I didn't do it because I am brilliant in every way. I did it because I had already seen Angel Heart, Jacob's Ladder, and Carnival of Souls. All of those movies are thematically similar to 6th Sense. This is NOT saying that anybody ripped off anybody else, just that I had seen treatments of similar themes in movies before and because of that I was able to hazard a guess about Bruce Willis' character. And for those of you who have not seen the aforementioned movies, they are quite good. Avoid the worthless remake of "Carnival of Souls", though. To contact me, simply email TelstarMan@yahoo.com and I will ignore you at my leisure.
The ending works... SPOILER by Phyllis	Apr 4th, 2000 11:32:06 AM
The ending does not call into question the scene when Elijah chases after the guy with the gun. SPOILER WARNING... Elijah caused the three disatsers. In the first two no one survived. In the third, one man lived through it. This was a lgimmer of hope, but not a definite confirmation, which is why he calls David in to see him, asks him all those questions. David's reluctance to talk to him, as well as other things (David insisting that he was hurt in the car accident years ago, David nearly drowning as a child) lead him to doubt, to think that maybe David's survival was just a fluke and he's not invincible. He still wants desperately to know, so he needs to know if the guy had a gun or not. In addition, even if he DID know for certain David was invincible, he would still have chased the gun guy. The gun is not evidence that David is invincible, it's evidence of another of his powers, his "Spidey Sense," which is something Elijah would want to know more about. The problem I have with the script is that it seems to be one big first act. It's all setup and no payoff. The Sixth Sense's twist ending brought closure to the entire film and to Willis' character in a shocking and unexpected way, but the twist here doesn't bring closure at all. In fact it opens up a whole new storyline, one which is a lot more interesting than the one that led up to it. I get the impression that the best part of the story happens after the script ends, and all we get to see is the first issue.
M Night is cool by KingMenthol	Apr 4th, 2000 11:33:49 AM
I really dislike hearing how this person/that person could see the ending of 6th Sense coming, as if they're some Carnak and belong to a higher echelon of scholars than those of us who were more than pleasantly surprised. Lemme see, uh, the reason why Malcolm talked to no one? Well, he was only in what, 3 scenes with anyone other than Cole? The anniversary dinner scene worked as a perfect front. I thought she was truly pissed and WOULDN'T talk to him. Those of you who "saw" it coming thought too much about it. Sit back and enjoy Unbreakable, as it sounds like a very interesting movie. Thinking about how the story pans out while you're watching the damn thing just ruins it for sure.
The guessing game... by Syd Mead	Apr 4th, 2000 11:42:58 AM
I could care less who guessed the ending or not because it's quite childish to play the "I got before you did !" BUT...I was wondering WHAT movies really did "fake" you out or even surprised AICN's brain trust. For me it was No Way Out with Kevin Costner...I mean come ON ! He's a commie spy who's a high ranking Navel officer?!? It would NEVER happen......I never got that one. But movies like The Crying Game and Empire Strikes Back got spoiled for me before I saw them, too bad. --Syd.
Guessing the end... by All Thumbs	Apr 4th, 2000 11:45:07 AM
Personally, I'm glad I didn't catch the ending. I, too, started to wonder why we never saw the guy talking to adults (except the wife; that happens), but I just let myself get into the movie and had a fun time. I wasn't trying to guess the ending and I had avoided any promotional stuff like the plague. At first, I didn't even want to see 6th Sense for fear of another "Mercury Rising." I'm glad I went because it's a great movie and one of the best I'd seen all that year. In fact, probably THE best, as I was waiting for many of the year's previous films to come out for rental and I didn't see "American Beauty" until February of this year. Anyways, to those who think it's incredible that serious movie buffs didn't get the ending right away, quit your bragging because I honestly think I had a better time at the movie than you did and don't think you're intellectually superior or a "better" movie buff than I am just because you analyzed the movie a little more than I did while watching it. In fact, you sound a little pathetic because you're getting a little too much joy out of such an insignificant thing. (That's not directed to those who just say they guessed it, but know it's not a huge thing.) As for reading the script, I think that when reading a script/book/play you can catch the little tricks set up easier than a movie because you are more actively participating to create the story in your head.
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise! (SPOILERS: Don't Read If You Don by mrbeaks	Apr 4th, 2000 11:59:51 AM
Good call on NO WAY OUT, Syd. The final scene of that movie floored me the first time I saw it. Also, I saw THE CRYING GAME without knowing of a suprise, and must say it's still one of the most profound moviegoing experiences I've ever had. As for other great surprise endings, or surprises in general: DIGGSTOWN, FIELD OF DREAMS, JACOB'S LADDER, LAURA and L.A. CONFIDENTIAL (especially if you read the book) all caught me off guard.
M. Night Shyamalan is the next film god. by Streak_Z	Apr 4th, 2000 12:02:22 PM
Yeah, it's true. He has an amazing directorial style and he doesn't suck when it comes to writting. He knows how to cast good actors and utilized a great crew for The Sixth Sense. Keep your eyes peeled for this guy. He could be the film industry's saviour!
mr breaks by nelson	Apr 4th, 2000 12:14:32 PM
We all knew Night was up to something...everyone, even a 5 year-old knew something was up. so much with perception shifts...
The reason why people were fooled is this(SPOILERS): by Lobanhaki	Apr 4th, 2000 12:16:23 PM
Wounds to the stomach are rarely fatal in movies. We leave him in that scene while he's still alive, and when we see his "life" six months later, we are given a glimpse of his "life" that is not dissimilar from the common conception of the driven man who's life is falling apart. The fact that this guy's life ended earlier is immaterial to our understanding of that character's motivations, alive or dead we could sympathize with the fellow. The great part of what Shyamalan did was to make it to where we could have enjoyed the movie, and understood what happened within the story without the ending. But with the ending, another layer of meaning is added to the entire story that came before. The twist worked because it allowed twice as much meaning to resonate through the story as it would have without it.
i wanna be cool... by nelson	Apr 4th, 2000 12:25:35 PM
hey boys and girls! Wanna be cool? Wanna be hip? Wanna be a fashionable film critc? All you gotta have are the two following qualities: 1.) Say you know the ending of a movie even before the studio's logo pops up on the screen. 2.) Say how much a movie is gonna suck (even if you haven't seen a frame of the movie). And last but not least: 3.) Be a Michael Bay basher!!! Damn!!! I wanna be cool like a lot of the bitches on Talkback who flip fuckin' hamburgers all day, and have NO idea what goes into making a fucking movie!!! Who wants to be cool? Anyone?
"twist endings" by moviebuffster	Apr 4th, 2000 12:27:53 PM
There's a difference between going to watch a movie to "watch" a movie or "experience" a movie and "I heard there's a cool ending let's go watch it". I am one of those people who watched Sixth Sense the first week it came out so I had no idea or had anyone come up and say "WATCH OUT FOR THAT CRAZY ENDING, MAN!!" So we early people watched Sixth Sense because the trailer looked good and were ready for a good supernatural thriller. And to address another point: David Fincher. The man has a "gimmick" ending in every one of his movies. So sitting down to watch Fight Club (which I personally didn't care for) I automatically looked for "something", this being a Fincher movie. Did that ruin the movie for me? No. It still disappointed. I hope Shymalan doesn't try for a "gimmick" ending in all his work because then everytime he makes a movie, we'll be expecting some kind of twist as with Fincher.
NO WAY OUT and other zinger endings by Roguewriter	Apr 4th, 2000 12:40:20 PM
Sadly, I had someone blow the shock ending of NO WAY OUT for me about 10 minutes before we walked into the friggin theater -- I would have strangled the guy... except it was my boss at the time! I have to agree with TelStar Man and others above who noted that certain tastes in flicks can lead certain people to guess how things will turn out. I am a horror movie junkie, so I can usually nail down where things are going fairly easily (so few risks, so few rewards... for crispy modern horror with a twist, I recommend CUBE -- little else of real merit lately). But at the same time, many, many dramas and action flicks will shock the crap out of me -- I may be the only person in the world who gasped at the end of FIELD OF DREAMS when Ray's old man walks out of the corn. I had no clue, and man, I bawled like a baby! What a great finale. That's just one of a long, long list of flicks that have stunned me with twist endings -- I for one make NO holier-than-thou claims here. Wouldn't offend the long-timers that way. (But PRIMAL FEAR, Ed Norton's debut -- THERE was another clinker for me. There was never any shock to that outcome. Whoever said above that it depends on how certain minds sift and filter certain flicks was dead on the money -- who knows why we sometimes get it and sometimes don't. I think the best films are the ones where almost NOBODY gets it up front... shocks on the level of last week's episode of THE SOPRANOS, am I right? Jesus, who saw THAT coming so soon?!) -- RR
Ever seen Jacob's Ladder... by IAmJack'sUserID	Apr 4th, 2000 12:44:36 PM
Someone blurted out the Fight Club ending long before the movie came out on this site and I want to extend a huge single finger salute to their fucking pathetic existence. You can take your spoilers and shove them up your oft-penetrated ass along with everything else that's up there. Always wanted to say that.------------As far as the ending to The Sixth Sense, I raised defenses after seeing Jacob's Ladder and being truly fooled. Someone, also on this site, mentioned that the Sixth Sense had a HUGE spoiler and I simply put 2 and 2 together and got the spoiler. Not that hard. Some of you assholes need to watch the frequency upon which you spit spoilers out. It CAN totally ruin a true movie experience, like that shit-kicking bag of monkey piss that ruined Fight Club for me.
Guessing the Ending by Kent Allard	Apr 4th, 2000 01:05:33 PM
Do you think Homer had this trouble when he was telling the story of the Illiad? "I saw the whole Trojan Horse thing coming as soon as the Greeks set sail from Athens." There are some people that treat movies like crossword puzzles that they have to "figure out" before the time limit expires, and there are those that just enjoy the journey, letting the story take them on its ride. I think the people who just "go with it" have the better film-going experience. I didn't see the ending of SIXTH SENSE coming because I wasn't LOOKING FOR IT. And even if I had, I STILL might not have seen it coming! I am a "film buff", I went to film school, and I work in the industry, so I'm not some babe in the woods. For those of you who were expending your mental power (and not listening to the excellent dialogue or enjoying the phenomenal performances) to "figure out" the "trick" to the movie, I hope you all feel sufficiently smug and superior to us mere mortals who just thought it was a great film with a kick-ass ending. I enjoyed the hell outta Sixth Sense & I plan to do the same with Unbreakable. Go make your own damn film if you find M. Night's work so "empty." (BTW, has anyone seen his home horror movie on the DVD? Hilarious!) --Kent Allard here, fading back into the shadows...
Or, You Can Be nelson..... by mrbeaks	Apr 4th, 2000 01:13:21 PM
..... and wow countless talk backers with insightful nuggets such as this: "We all knew Night was up to something...everyone, even a 5 year-old knew something was up. so much with perception shifts..." I was trying to make sense of your statement, but then you did me the courtesy of mentioning Michael Bay in your subsequent post, which allowed me to simultaneously dismiss your puzzling comment, and wonder aloud how one so dull could possess the intellectual capacity to find the power switch on his computer, much less tie his own shoes without the help of a friend or parent. In any event, nelson, I believe it's nap time for you; so, go rest for a bit, while the grown-ups continue their "big people" conversation about THE SIXTH SENSE.
Right on Kent by vergence	Apr 4th, 2000 01:18:03 PM
I totally agree w/ Kent's accessment. Movies are supposed to be a journey --- trying to guess the ending takes the fun out of getting there.
Unknowable by Rebeck	Apr 4th, 2000 01:20:51 PM
Did anyone ever think that maybe the last 20 pages feel rushed because they are a red herring, put out there to keep the "real" ending from being told over and over again online just as this one (and every other one these days, inevitably)is? I'm a screenwriter myself, cringing at the thought of online reactions and reviews of my drafts. Maybe M. Night is just a little smarter than you think and is trying to keep his ending a secret as long as possible. If so, good for him.
another boring personal story about the twist by arnie	Apr 4th, 2000 01:26:09 PM
I have to admit that I do tend to usually guess twist endings well before the end, but I was completely taken by surprise by the end of the Sixth Sense. I had even been told there was a great twist ending and tried very hard to figure it out, but I think I was thrown by the fact that I didn't realize that was Donnie Wahlberg at the beginning and kept thinking the movie couldn't end until I saw him. I kept waiting for another element/character to enter the story and so completely overlooked that all the clues were already right in front of me. Whee! Boy, I can tell a story, huh? Now, let me tell you about the time I went to see 'Bottle Rocket' but I thought I was seeing 'Passenger 57'...
mr breaks 2 by nelson	Apr 4th, 2000 01:38:06 PM
oh give it a rest. Why do you have to make the simple complicated? You add unneccesary theory and all this overblown rhetoric to something so simple and basic in life: entertainment. Accept things like they are, if you don't like the script of plot (or are too smart), I got a simple solution: don't go see it. Instead of blah-blah-blah, go out and do something about it. Do like Night did, make a wonderful movie about a kid who sees dead people (am I being to simple?), make a movie that will be enjoyed by many, by the whole family. BTW, Night didn't make TSS for the malcontent and frustrated. So buddy, give it a break, and let Night do want he wants without bitching and adopting the "I'm-a-genious" attitude. M. Night S. rules...
Like I Said, Kent..... by mrbeaks	Apr 4th, 2000 01:45:38 PM
I don't actively try to figure out a film's ending, but, in this case, I was feeling disengaged from the story; ergo, my mind began to wander, and I thought, "hey, what if Night was trying to do this!" Much to my dismay, my hunch was correct. In my original post, I was merely trying to illustrate how it was possible to figure out the ending without knowing a surprise was coming. Sorry if that struck you as an arrogant comment.
Kent Allard... by nelson	Apr 4th, 2000 01:51:45 PM
no one could've said it better. You the man. I agree. Many people (including talkbackers) have forgotten how to enjoy a movie. Good job dude.
I've got to agree somewhat w/ Beaks here... by Roguewriter	Apr 4th, 2000 01:55:39 PM
It's not that I always go LOOKING to dissect a movie as it's unreeling, but sometimes you just tip to something. Part of what makes film such a great medium is it DOES suck you in, carry you along, but often (especially in the era of built-by-committee, too-many-fingers-in-the-pie Hollywood filmmaking) you just get handed all the clues you need. Like I said, that's not because you're some genius, or catch more than others do in movies -- it just depends on how much you watch (and hell, a lot of you folks seem to devour scripts as well -- enough scriptreading should give many avid fans an idea of how stories are likely or unlikely to unfold) and how certain films tap into staple elements of certain genres. Like TelStar, I think SIXTH SENSE tapped into the same vein as JACOB'S LADDER and ANGEL HEART. I was really sucked in (how could you not be -- the dark house full of dead kids was terrifying!) but at the same time, some tickling sensation said, "Whoa... what if..." and so it went. No luck. No real talent. Just a tickle that turned out to be on the money.
nelson by mrbeaks	Apr 4th, 2000 02:05:56 PM
Unnecessary theory and overblown rhetoric? This is what I do for a living; so, you'll excuse me if I discuss the craft of writing when critiquing a specific work. Sometimes, when applying such things, you can better convey why you didn't care for a particular work, like THE SIXTH SENSE. Furthermore, entertainment might seem "basic" to you, but, as Shyamalan would tell you himself, you might be surprised to learn that a great deal of work goes into writing these screenplays.
Roguewriter-- by KingMenthol	Apr 4th, 2000 02:06:57 PM
About Fincher. I hadn't really thought about it, but that's so right! The Game? The ending almost ruined the movie.
Hindsight is always 20/20 by guyuuk!	Apr 4th, 2000 02:10:39 PM
I've had arguments with friends over twists in movies. Sometimes I think they hate a movie so much that they purposely say "Yeah I figured it out about half way through" just to spite me for liking it. Deep down, I think they really were surprised and played it off, probably thinking that the "twist" was the only good thing about the movie. "Usual Suspects" was the movie that sparked most of these arguments. "Sixth Sense"'s twist was ruined by my over-analytical mind. A review I read of "Fight Club" mentioned a "Sixth Sense-like twist", so from there, I put it together (trust me, I ain't no genius). However, it didn't ruin my enjoyment of the film. I thought the performances were outstanding and the cinematography excellent. Even after knowing the twist, I was still surprised by the quality of this movie.
usual suspencts by kochez	Apr 4th, 2000 02:15:48 PM
i flew threw the talkbacks pretty quick so i don't know if i am going to repeat. i didn't see anyone talk about the usual suspects. best killer endings: 5. primal fear 4. jacob's ladder (that's why sixth isn't on this list) 3. usual suspects 2. citizen kane 1. empire strikes back barnone the best twist ever.
Genius, or simply someone who's seen a movie before? by TelstarMan	Apr 4th, 2000 02:23:32 PM
sigh...I'm not saying I'm necessarily smarter than anyone who didn't figure out the twist ending to 6th Sense. I am merely saying that if you watch enough movies, you're likely to see something that is like something else. And for my money, "Carnival of Souls", "Jacob's Ladder" and "6th Sense" would make a hell of a triple bill. Also, you don't capitalize the "s" in Telstar. Or at least I don't. (to reach TelstarMan, simply send email to TelstarMan@yahoo.com)
Good twists... by Isidore	Apr 4th, 2000 02:39:38 PM
I just thought I would throw out another twisty ending for you, The Sting. If you analize the hell out of it, it isn't surprizing, but if you just sit back and marvel at the level of the twisting, it is a lot of fun. Plus it is the only movie my grandfather will admit to not being able to figure out after 4 frames. Aaahhh. It felt good to let that little tidbit out.
my very own boring twist ending story by uh_Clem	Apr 4th, 2000 02:42:47 PM
So happily skip over. But as soon as I hear someone mention No Way Out I find myself cringing. Nothing to do with the quality of the movie, and I even dug the unbelievability of the final twist -- thought it a good play on the running unbelievability of Hackman's character's cover story in the first place. But what happened was, the very second -- not ONE BEAT AFTER -- Costner talks Russian, the film broke. Silence. A good attentive enjoying-it audience, whose jaws JUST hit the floor, suddenly looking at a blank screen and the lights coming up. Oh the noise was loud then. We held the theater hostage. Demanded cash back (screw free passes) or reset the final reel. Took 'em 20 minutes to cave, and we watched the final 10 min of the film again, all for the sake of the last 2; messed their whole screening schedule for the day. Ever since, as soon as I realize I've just been let in on a final "twist" in any movie, I get an extra reflexive flinch and prepare for the worst. Leaves a very hollow place in the gut. Imagine the perfect place for the 6th Sense to END on you? shudder "I see dead projectionists... all the time..."
mmm...twistalicious... by I am_NOTREAL	Apr 4th, 2000 02:44:07 PM
Hey, I wish I hadn't seen the twist coming in 6th Sense...I probably would have enjoyed the film that much more if it had caught me by surprise. I didn't see the end of Usual Suspects until it happened (I thought the first twist, that Dean Keaton = Keyser, was good enough), and maybe because of that it's one of my favorite films of all time. But with 6th I just couldn't help it...maybe I just wasn't sufficiently engaged by the film to keep from trying to calculate the ending, which is my loss. BTW, the twist ending to Fight Club was in the book long before David Fincher ever heard of it, so what does that mean? He didn't put the twist in--it was already there...
Talk Back Hell by Gossamer	Apr 4th, 2000 02:46:48 PM
I didn't guess the twist ending because I didn't have to: some asshole posted it here in Talk Back. "Wow, I was really surprised that Bruce turned out to be dead the whole time." No spoiler warning; he was just being a dick. (I don't know when it got deleted; the next 10 posts or so were all some variation on "You asshole!") This was well before the movie came out, so there are some dangers to reading this kind of site, spoiler warnings or not. When I finally say the movie, I was really pleased at how well it holds up after you know, once you surpass Malcolm's level of knowledge. The movie is at least as much about loneliness as it is about ghosts, and Malcolm's loneliness is equally valid whether he's alive or dead. The fact that the kid steals every scene he's in draws much of the attention away from Malcolm. The fact that he was a ghost told me less about him than it does about the fact that Cole still bonded with him despite knowing he was dead. How lonely do you have to be to accept therapy from a dead guy? I thought the film was fairly well crafted and far scarier than anything else I've seen recently. The new script bothers me a little bit, partly because the story seems hokey, and partly because I'd rather not see another surprise ending from Shyamalan so soon after the last one.
Unbreakable will rock! I hope, what do I know, didn't even catch by Skytalker	Apr 4th, 2000 03:02:57 PM
This Talkback is really stirring up some emotions! But have you noticed, it's much more fun to argue about these things after we have all seen the film in question. Much more entertaining than bashing X-men the movie before the premiere...then again, I've done that too. Rebeck, you're absolutely right.
Good point, Gossamer by Roguewriter	Apr 4th, 2000 03:38:10 PM
The movie was compelling no matter what/when you knew how it turned out -- always a mark of a great story. Hell, having read King's novel almost enough times to quote whole chapters, I knew how SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION turned out, but the movie didn't lose one IOTA of greatness for that reason. While I would have preferred to see MAGNOLIA in the Best Pix category at this year's Oscar, there's no denying SIXTH SENSE was an enjoyable outing for me.
whatever by die_harry_die	Apr 4th, 2000 04:19:01 PM
so you figured out the movie's twist ending. whatever. good for you. now go stab yourself in the back. i mean, pat yourself in the back. i'm thinking you had SUSPICIONS that something wasn't kosher, like i did. guy gets shot in the gut. nobody survives a gutshot in real life. (but this is a movie.) guy talks to adults and they seem to just ignore him. (maybe he's not interesting). guy is at the hospital and every other adult just ignores him. (like i said, maybe he's not that interesting.) guy always just kinda shows up. (huh, maybe he's quiet.) look, all you idiots had suspicions, but none of you KNEW he was dead. admit it, you liars.
good twist endings... by lostoptimist	Apr 4th, 2000 04:58:34 PM
I was lucky that I saw CRYING GAME opening weekend. Had no idea about the SURPRISE. I, too, was completely bowled over. I might look at it very differently now if I had known about it going in. The ending of the GRIFTERS kind of freaked me out. It came out of nowhere and surprised the Hell out of me. Another effective surprise ending was in AFTER DARK MY SWEET...I just thought Jason Patric's boxer was an idiot and I had no reason to doubt it. Seeing Sam Jackson get swallowed by a shark only a half hour in to DEEP BLUE SEA was kinda nifty also.
secret 6thSense ending by chowdaddy	Apr 4th, 2000 05:02:00 PM
But what happens to the kid at the end of the 6th Sense? He's still getting harassed by dead people on a daily basis, right? CUT TO: INT. SECRET LAB - 2020 AD TITLE: 2020 AD Cole, 30 years old now, enters through the lab doors. He finishes a bottle of Jim Beam and throws it against the wall. COLE (whispering) I told him my secret and he still couldn't help me. I see dead people. I SEE FKING DEAD PEOPLE!!! Cole strips down to his underwear and picks up a chrome .38. He programs the time machine for Philidelphia July, 1999. COLE (whispering) I needed you to help me...fking Shrink! Cole enters the time machine and vanishes. CUT TO: EXT. BRUCE'S HOUSE, BATHROOM-NIGHT TITLE: 1999
Speaking of obvious endings... by Kent Allard	Apr 4th, 2000 05:18:26 PM
AND THE BIBLE!!! Couldn't you just see that whole "Four Horses of the Apocalypse" thing coming all the way from Ephesians? I mean, geez, throw us a curve or something! ;-)
twist endings by theTemplar	Apr 4th, 2000 05:21:17 PM
Jesus - I haven't thought about No Way Out in years! Man, that one got me good. Sopranos - that was a damn fine twist also. Didn't catch the twist in Sixth Sense thank God. But even if you did catch it, I think its also a compelling story about a boy who is sought out by the dead (man, that would drive me crazy). Also, I liked the fact that Willis never cured the kid, but allowed the kid to come to a truce with his unfortunate gift. Sixth Sense was a great film on many levels and I'll take on anyone who disagrees!
I knew the end of The Usual Suspects by holidill	Apr 4th, 2000 06:56:35 PM
I knew the end of The Usual Suspects, about two seconds before they revealed it. I had heard that there was a twist, so I went to see it, and I kept guessing, Maybe Keaton had a twin? But I still enjoyed the movie nonetheless, I may not have gotten the twist until it hit, but I still enjoyed guessing. Also I saw The Sixth Sense after reading a spoiler about it, and I still enjoyed it, trying to see how it all fit together, plus I have never seen No Way Out, or Fight Club, or Jacob's Ladder, but I still read the spoilers. I still don't want to see these films even knowing the twist. Yes I like to be shocked, but I still don't mind going to a film where I know the twist or don't, it's my decision to read the spoilers, I want to! Oh by the way, I didn't catch the Primal Fear twist until it happened, and I heard about the twist in Fallen, but I still thought the movie kicked ass. And hey besides Denzel Washington, Donald Sutherland, Elias Koteas, and John Goodman. James Gandolfini is in it also dude!
Um, you all ruined No Way Out for me... by All Thumbs	Apr 4th, 2000 07:02:18 PM
No matter, I haven't seen it up till now and I probably won't for a long time still, so maybe I'll forget. Other endings that have been ruined for me: "Field of Dreams," "Fight Club," "Citizen Kane" and "The Crying Game." Actually, that last one wasn't ruined for me, someone told me there was a twist and I sat squirmy throughout the movie trying to figure out what it was, so I didn't enjoy the first half as much as I should've, although the real twist was still a jaw-dropping shocker. As for favorite twists, it's up there with "6th Sense," "Shawshank Redemption," and "Usual Suspects." (That last one gets me every time.) For all the animosity, I must say this is still a fun Talk-Back.
Oh! Forgot the Primal Fear one! by All Thumbs	Apr 4th, 2000 07:06:10 PM
Spoiler if you haven't seen it!***When Norton's character messes up his speech at the very end and Gere's character catches it, I about peed my pants with shock! I had gotten caught up, along with all the main characters, in the story of this poor boy whose medical condition got way out of hand. Norton was excellent in that movie and he's just an all-around great actor who does not wrong in my book. Although...we'll see what his directing debut is like soon. (It looks funny, I'll say!)
I guessed it :) by Moby134	Apr 4th, 2000 11:25:10 PM
No, I guess it was just a suspicion, but everyone told me that there was a suprise ending, and that I would never guess it. So, of course, I was looking for it. I doubted myself though because I couldn't believe it was so easy to figure out. I don't know, this one was just easy. I'm not saying it's a sign of intelligence- It usually takes me about 5 minutes after a jokes been told to start laughing.I'm not joking...But, hey, I used to be able to figure out the bad guy in those old Perry Mason flicks- Now that is a sign of intellegence!;)
Sixth Sense Ending - DOESN'T WORK by RaoulDuke	Apr 4th, 2000 11:35:05 PM
**********SIXTH SENSE AND FIGHT CLUBSPOILERS ********* Okay, I didn't see it coming. I thought it was really cool...until I started thinking about it. And then I watched it again. There are soooo many scenes that DONT MAKE SENSE. 1) Sitting with the mother - who let him in? Wouldn't he say something and realize he's not getteing an answer..which leads to.. 2) Its been SIX MONTHS! How could he not know something was unusual. 3) After the kid gets locked in the room, he gets taken to the hospital..and Bruce Willis is there- who called him? How did he know about it? I could go on. Now Fight Club was ingenious. Everything made perfect sense from the first brain shot to the subliminal images of Tyler forming. And it wasn't just a twist for no reason, to me thats what a big part of the movie was about. The way society has become with mundane office jobs and hypercommercialization, those that can't properly handle it would find an outlet for thier stress in other ways. Jack creates Tyler so he can do this. Anyway, Sixth Sense was good; although it was waay overrated. Whereas Fight Club was the best movie of the year in my opinion, and didn't get the recognition it deserved.
Re: RoaulDuke by Moby134	Apr 4th, 2000 11:58:17 PM
The ending does work. And all of the points you made were clues that he was dead and didn't know it. I mean any alive guy would have to wonder how he keeps on popping up out of no where suddenly to be with this kid. Geeze don't you get it? He was dead and along with his physical body he lost something else. His perception. You know like on Star Treck when they beam people up, sometimes all of the particles don't make it and a person's just not right.Just like Bruce when he passed on to the other side!That's why it was so easy..See?
Why the ending works by Gossamer	Apr 5th, 2000 01:42:00 AM
Raoul, my friend, it works because Malcolm doesn't know he's dead. That's one of the basic rules of the film: the ghosts generally don't realize that they're dead, so they keep doing the things they used to do when they were alive. Even the murdered girl, who seems to break this rule, keeps vomiting, which I assume you don't have to do anymore once you've croaked. Malcolm obviously rationalizes what he's seeing and doing to avoid any supernatural explanation. For instance, he has to pass through the door to the cellar since it's been blocked by a table; you see him rummaging through his pockets as if he's looking for the key, and then the scene fades out. The audience assumes that he unlocked the door and opened it like normal, and SO DOES MALCOLM. In fact, he doesn't even see the table there until the end of the movie. Passing through a solid door would be a pretty big clue that he's a ghost, and so he simply isn't aware of it happening. In fact, the leaps of logic he makes in the rest of film aren't much different from the audience's either, and since they're so easy to make, it doesn't set off any alarm bells. Sure, it's easy enough to understand why a guy who was shot by a former patient might be consumned with guilt after he recovered, alienate his wife with his new-found obsession, and try to redeem himself through his work. And doesn't a good psychiatrist show up to comfort their patient in times of trauma? When he shows up at the hospital, we assume Cole's mother called him. And Malcolm probably assumes the same thing, but he's not going to think about that too hard, since he's in denial about being dead. During the scene with Cole's mom, it looks like a parent and a doctor having an uncomfortable moment of silence while waiting for Cole. She gets up, says hi to her so when he comes in, and then excuses herself. It's a natural assumption that she's doing that to leave them alone together. Again, Malcolm makes the same assumption. During Malcolm's scenes, the audience is often limited to his perceptions: he doesn't see any ghosts, because that would mean that ghosts exist, which opens the door to the idea that he might be one. Only when Cole looks do we see them. Malcolm tries to make everything as normal as possible. He meets Cole for daily sessions, makes his notes, researches his subject, agonizes over whether he's doing the right thing, and meets his wife in restaurants just like he did in life. He feels intense guilt about alienating his wife, rather than see that she's a widow. As far as him not having clued in after 6 months, the age of the ghost doesn't seem to matter (witness the colonial hanging victims in Cole's school, who haven't clued in after 200 years or so). Anyway, I suggest you watch the movie again, keeping in mind that Malcolm's pretty much incapable of getting a clue until he helps Cole get a grip on his problem. It's just the ground rules in this movie.
The kissing game by SeVen Higgins	Apr 5th, 2000 04:04:43 AM
I also saw the Crying Game without knowing what it was on video last year (my wife rented it) and i have to say if I logged on here and read the spoiler the I would e-mail that guy and say THANKS!!!!!!! I WAS REPULSED!!!!! Ok I understand this is a good movie with a great plot twist but Damn!!! When he was undressing "IT" and "THAT" was hanging there right in his face I almost lost it. Like I said good movie for cinematic enjoyment, FUCKING GROSS TO ME.
Some people just never "Got" the ending of Sixth Sense. by gilmour	Apr 5th, 2000 10:20:47 AM
Alot of people I talk to think it doesn't work because how could Malcolm go through 6 months, eating, sleeping, attempting to talk to people etc. without knowing he's dead. People Malcolm was dead, time had absolutely no meaning to him what was 6 months to the living probably felt like a few minutes to Malcolm. He never ate, slept etc. He he never noticed it he was in total denial. geeze it's not THAT hard to figure. Stop thinking of him in rationalization that he is alive.
Hey Gilmour... by Vegas	Apr 5th, 2000 11:02:09 AM
...regarding your posts (especially the one WAAAAAAY above)...I agree. Totally.
Sixth Sense makes a lot of money by Hoosebaby	Apr 5th, 2000 03:07:40 PM
but it doesn't make sense. People make the arguments that Malcolm would just assume things were normal, and rationalize to himself. This doesn't fit either. The fact is, the scenes mentioned in the above posts were put there for one reason only: To fool us. It can't be explained how he got into the house, or the hospital. I can accept that he believed that he was welcome at both places by the other parties involved, but that doesn't explain HOW he knew to go to the hospital. It doesn't explain how he got into the house. It's a good movie, but those things can't be explained.
What's really weird by Salamander129	Apr 5th, 2000 04:44:31 PM
The part about the Sixth Sense that nobody mentions that I thought was really strange is: The kid had the same birth mark as the older guy who killed Bruce Willis ( a blonde patch on his head). I thought that bruce had gone back in time once he was dead to straighten out his Karma. Meaning that the Kid and the older Killer were one and the same. What's weird to me is that if a person could go back in time and straighten out their Karma, how would that affect the future?
M. NIGHT is great by frenchie	Apr 5th, 2000 05:42:12 PM
I enjoyed the 6th Sense 10 times more than EPISODE 1 TPM. I'm SOOO eager to see his next film.
the Oscar's spoiled the Crying Game! by mr Broots	Apr 5th, 2000 06:28:03 PM
Where I live the Crying Game came out after the Oscar's so when Jaye Davison was nominated for Best Supportive Actor I was puzzled. Why is she?...Aahah! What about thrillers where you have to guess the killer? I would say the casting always spoils it. Why does this known actor have this tiny part?...There must be someone to match Harrison Ford in the end fight. Although I thought he would be hooking up with Julianne Moore in The Fugitive. They should use casting as a red herring more, like Gabriel Byrne in Enemy of the State. Who is the wherewolf in Silverbullit, took that on his look the first frame he was in. Yeah, and the writing. It must always be personal,killer must fall from great hight, preferably on car. Or everyone has to wear the same type of jacket with fur on the hood to make the plot work and I'm now far from "the surprise ending" bit so I just end.
ongrats MrBroots...that is without a doubt the most rambling tal by gilmour	Apr 5th, 2000 06:57:44 PM
Bruce knew to go to the hospital because his spirit followed Cole, THERE! it makes sense! no shut your hole!
more great endings by moviebuffster	Apr 6th, 2000 01:59:02 AM
One of the great endings in movies in my opinion would be "Don't Look Now" with Donald Sutherland chasing after his what-he-thinks daughter only to find......... Chilling to the bone!!!!! There is also a low budget horror movie called Sole Survivor about a woman who's the only survivor of an airplane crash. And Death pretty much wants her back (I know it sounds like Final Destination, but it's alot spookier). This movie also has a great ending. And lastly is the great Mamet film "Homicide". To this day I still mutter the words"______feed" A truly twist ending to a great movie.
The second coming by Buck Pages	Apr 6th, 2000 10:51:59 AM
M.Night's second coming movie could be interesting, I see what the main set up of the movie is about. I liked the Sixth Sense and I feel M.Night is a new type of director in the process of being, he is not compared to any one that I know of so..I guess he's trying to make new types of pictures.
This is my first Talk back post! by Hi! I'm Caitie!	Apr 6th, 2000 04:54:01 PM
I don't know what to say. I liked the Sixth Sense, but my brother was an idiot and gave away the ending while they were riding the bus. Kinda obvious though, if you consider the fact that successful child psychologists don't normally have to take the bus. Still, all you people blasting the Sixth Sense are just those sad people that make fun of everything that is popular. This isn't high school people.

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