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Moriarty's RUMBLINGS FROM THE LAB #28 RE: William Goldman's Latest Book, THE HOLLOW MAN, PITCH BLACK,

A Question For Moriarty.... by Flmlvr	Feb 16th, 2000 05:37:36 PM
....How come you didn't show up to your scheduled on line chat the other night? Just wondering. It would've been cool to talk to you.
They better not give that kid the Oscar by EL Duderino	Feb 16th, 2000 05:40:19 PM
If E.T. was enough to ruin Drew Barrymore's childhood, just imagine what this Oscar will do. Just a thought.
Need your opinion, Moriarty. by All Thumbs	Feb 16th, 2000 05:43:02 PM
The William Goldman book sounds like an interesting read and a must-have not only for those going into the "business" but for those of us who are really interesting in anything film. Now, should I read the first book first or can I read this new one without being confused? Does it reference the first book a lot?
Defending Haley Joel by All Thumbs	Feb 16th, 2000 05:48:54 PM
Osmet's performance may have seemed like an easy one to many of you and it may seem to those who really want to see Cruise get his Oscar unfair that an 11-year-old could take it away from him. First of all, I would love to see Cruise get this. I haven't seen Magnolia yet, but I feel he's long overdue for some recognition. The thing is, I hear how much work that kid did going into a role that was more mature than his young years (was he maybe 7 or 8 when he did it?). It's an amazing performance and until I see Cruise's I can't say who's is better, I just hope it goes to the one that is deserving. But if this kid gets the statue and I start hearing how he didn't deserve it at all, well, it's just going to make me upset and you guys don't want that, do you?
FIGHT CLUB DVD DELAYED UNTIL JUNE!!!! DAMNIT!!!! ANYONE WHO TH by Dark Magus	Feb 16th, 2000 05:51:32 PM
If the Academy had any balls, this is what it should have been: Best Actor Edward Norton Best Actress Annette Bening Best Picture Fight Club Best Supporting Actor Brad Pitt Best Supporting Actress Nicole Kidman Best Original Screenplay Being John Malkovich Best Adapted Screenplay Fight Club Best Director Stanley Kubrick. I dare you to argue with me.
Superman music by r_dimitri22	Feb 16th, 2000 05:55:34 PM
Music for the original Superman is great, but what I really want is the General Zod music from Superman II.
Lynda Obst? by smilin'jackruby	Feb 16th, 2000 05:55:51 PM
Debra Obst? Maybe I'm on crack, but isn't "Hello, He Lied" by whacked out and rather self-important producer Lynda Obst, producer of the oh-so-important film, "The Siege?" Sorry, Moriarity, didn't mean to get on my high horse. She's just not my favorite person out here.
Brevity Is Good by mrbeaks	Feb 16th, 2000 06:02:23 PM
Guess it's time for me to crack open that HOLLOW MAN script that's been collecting dust in my apartment. Is this a new draft? I've had my copy for a couple of months. On the subject of Williams' best scores, I tend to think that THE FURY is one of his high water marks. If there's a more menacing piece of music out there, I haven't heard it.
Not A Fan Of HELLO, HE LIED by mrbeaks	Feb 16th, 2000 06:06:50 PM
For a better woman's perspective on working in Hollywood, I think it's hard to beat Jane Hamsher's KILLER INSTINCT. Oh, and I'd just like to reiterate that had Nigel Hawthorne received a Best Supporting Actor nomination for THE WINSLOW BOY (which should've at least been nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay, too,) it wouldn't have been a contest.
Forrest Gump was overrated... by shaithis77	Feb 16th, 2000 06:06:51 PM
...But Forrest Hump, now that was a classic!
PUT Kieslowski on DVD you Idiots!!!! by Shelly	Feb 16th, 2000 06:09:19 PM
Is it just me or has Kieslowski been screwed!!! Why the hell are they only releasing the Decalogue on video? What about DVD? Plus, RED, WHITE, and BLUE should all be on dvd...why not? In fact you can't even get RED and WHITE on video anymore. Why are these films not being perserved and shared? It's a tragedy!
No doubt the "Hollow"cript is teriffic... by user id indeed!	Feb 16th, 2000 06:12:30 PM
But in the perverted mind of Idiot Hack-oop!I mean Paul Verhoeven-it's just an excuse to work rape scenes into the Invisible Man idea.I can't believe this Dutch moron is still allowed to direct after "Basic Instinct"and"Starship Troopers".Oh well.BTW,I'm making a point not to stoop to his level and mention "Showgirls",so please acknowledge.
As for the Oscars... by Shelly	Feb 16th, 2000 06:17:17 PM
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING? Where is Kubrick for Best Director. This is hands down!!!!! No respect people. Let's ban the Oscars and play reruns from the Beverly Hillbillies instead. GODDDDD!
Debra Obst never cried at work by Tulse Luper	Feb 16th, 2000 06:17:55 PM
Debra Obst kicks ass! That damn Linda Obst stole her title, stole her second husband, and stole the deed to her lake house outside Austin!!! Right now, poor Debra Obst is sitting in a crapppy studio apartment in Culver City, working on her next female film biz rant (working title is "Um, Hello, She Stole My Title..." - but don't tell Linda) and cursing that faker Linda. What kind of name is Linda anyway? Debra. Now that's a real name!
Sadly, Angelina Jolie will probably win (for a good rant, read t by Stephen Dedalus	Feb 16th, 2000 06:29:20 PM
The Best Supporting Actress award will, alas, go to Angelina Jolie for yet another Yelling Screaming Woman performance. Never mind the fact the Samantha Morton was able to express far more emotion without any dialogue. Never mind the fact that Catherine Keener played one of the most quietly manipulative females on the screen in years. Never mind the fact that Toni Colette's quietly distressed mother was part of what held THE SIXTH SENSE together. And never mind the fact that Chloe Sevingy gave a performance that matched the power of Hilary Swank's (and won almost as many critic's awards), in a role that most other actresses would treat as a background part. When it comes down to the wire, Jolie yelled and screamed a lot. Plus she's Jon Voight's daughter. And a big Hollywood favorite. So she'll win. I hope that someday, the Oscars learn that an imploding performance can be every bit as powerful as an exploding performance. Often better.
Anyone ever see Haley Joel Osment in an interview? by Niiiice	Feb 16th, 2000 06:35:50 PM
He has the poise and maturity that many adults don't have. When asked about the Oscar competition he replied "I don't think of it as a competition." Straight up made the interviewer look pretty petty. This kid is pretty impressive, if only he could have been Anakin...and in related news, I see Jake Lloyd's career taking a nose dive.
Dark Magus, you're joking right? by Niiiice	Feb 16th, 2000 06:37:51 PM
If that's not the quintessential fanboy stereotype, I don't know what is. Seriously, Fight Club was arguably decent, but neither Brad Pitt nor Edward Norton seriously stretched their acting chops. It wasn't anything that any other young actor could have done.
screw you, kent brockman - here's MY two cents by tommy five-tone	Feb 16th, 2000 06:38:24 PM
goldman: his books and scripts are pretty cool and i'm looking forward to this new one, but his articles in 'premiere' betray him as a fella with an utter disdain for 'modern cinema' (jeez, that sounds so wanky). re. jolie: her 'girl, interrupted' performance was absolute crap - tiresome bad girl antics that aimed to be oh-so-cool and were just oh-so-predictable. go back and watch jolie in HBO's 'gia' and you'll see why angelina deserves the hype (or try to find 'cyborg 2: glass shadow' in which a 17 y.o. jolie gets 'em out for the lads. fine actress, fine titties, but she don't deserve no damn oscar for that whiny winonarama piece of crap.
and what's more... by tommy five-tone	Feb 16th, 2000 06:42:18 PM
killer instinct: god, i hate that book! hamsher reveals herself as a whiny no-talent bitch (you seen her name on any movies since 'apt pupil'? no you haven't!) and don murphy comes across as a fat passenger whose only talent is for scamming free shit outta the multinationals. that said, i find myself re-reading it on occasion, strictly when i feel like torturing myself with tales of how some fuck-knuckles can make it semi-big in the showbiz. read robert rodriguez's 'rebel without a crew' instead - now that's inspirational, funny and enlightening.
Superman-The Music... by agentcooper	Feb 16th, 2000 06:50:20 PM
John Williams should have been nominated for the Phantom Menace score, but we covered that yesterday. Let's talk about Superman for a moment, shall we? Williams' music made that movie work. Yes, the script was good, acting fine, and special effects cutting edge for the time, but the music really tied it all together and elevated the whole thing. One of my favorite Williams pieces is called "Leaving Home." It is the scene where Clark decides that the time has come for him to go out and find his purpose in the world. Ma Kent joins him in the field to say goodbye. I don't think they exchange but about three or four lines of dialogue, but when that music swells, and we crane up to reveal all those amber waves of grain...My god, you just get chills. I don't believe this piece was included on the orginal disc, so I plan to get the new one. It sounds like this is a comprehensive selection of all the music in the film, like the special edition discs of the Original Trilogy that came out in 97. You guys should all pick up a copy. Disc one on ANH includes disgarded takes of the Star Wars theme, each of which is slightly different from the one we are used to from the film. I hope there is some similar "easter eggs" on the Superman disc set. You know, the fact that John Williams can write so much good music is simply amazing. They should give HIM a lifetime achievement award at the Oscars some year soon.
Dudes, E! just show the X-Men Trailer by 7	Feb 16th, 2000 07:02:45 PM
just saw it. Very Matrixy
Why does everyone on this site love Pitch Black so much? It SUCK by DarthJoe	Feb 16th, 2000 07:32:07 PM
I can't believe these guys are pushing that damn movie so much. I saw it last night at a preview and damn if I wasn't disappointed after the intense hype from this site. Some of the film doesn't make any sense. When Dave Twohy can't figure out how to get the characters through a patch of aliens, he just waves the camera around incomprehensibly and we're left shaking our heads. The first half was entertaining and kept my interest, but then it fell apart. Wait for video, folks.
Harry and Moriarty by Hotspur	Feb 16th, 2000 08:23:50 PM
hey guys. Cheer up. And by the way I think Gump is a pretty good movie, but not worthy of all the oscars it got. Those people who have shown up on this site in the last couple of days to give Harry, and now it sounds like some are giving Moriarty a hard time too, are just weirdos with no life. I mean what's the point?? I hope you guys knows who the REAL fans of your work are. We will never let you down!
hey, phojus by tommy five-tone	Feb 16th, 2000 09:49:05 PM
for a while there, angelina was letting those puppies out for a run in every damn film she made! i think the reason i disliked 'girl, incompetent' so much was that she (and winona!) kept them under wraps! oh wait a minute, i hated that movie because it was insipid and cliched and self-enchanted. hope 'gone in 60 seconds' and 'dancing in the dark' kickstart jolie's career again, but there's no hope for winona unless she starts indulging in a little NC-17 action (tastefully handled, of course).
Goldman by Samthelion	Feb 16th, 2000 09:53:09 PM
I'm a big fan of Adventures in the Screen Trade. I read it about three times and sometimes pick it up and re-read sections when I'm bored. He also recently published a collection of essays called "The Big Picture: Who Killed Hollywood?" It's interesting because Goldman examines what makes movies successful and how big time buzz virtually ruins some movies' chances at the box office. It also features a touchingly fond article on the death of Andre the Giant that is It's interesting and I can't wait for his new one.
tears of a clown by tommy five-tone	Feb 16th, 2000 10:10:58 PM
dude, am i hallucinating or is that big smiling harry face in the corner occasionally shedding a tear? answer me quickly, because then i'll be able to ascertain whether or not the couch is actually telling me not to sit on it anymore.
BLUE Needs To Be Released On DVD!!!! by Maul99	Feb 17th, 2000 12:12:43 AM
I want to know why Kieslowski's THREE COLORS trilogy has not been released on DVD! Somebody needs to pull their heads out of their asses and at least get throw us a bone by putting BLUE on DVD. I confess that I'm in love with Juliette Binoche, but these films deserve to be presented in the best possible format for home viewing.
AICN has officially arrived! by Deltahead	Feb 17th, 2000 12:57:40 AM
Credibility at last! Some of the ads for Pitch Black use a quote from one of the AICN reviews. I forget whose review, but just being mentioned, recognized as a legitimate place for movie reviews... that's got to kick ass. And no, the good AICN quote wasn't the only good press this movie's gotten. New York Times called it one of thescariest sci-fi films in years. And that's really the entire goal. Not an genre-redefining cinema event, but a good scary alien flick. Peace.
Yeah, I've seen Osment. by keeper	Feb 17th, 2000 12:59:35 AM
I'm not sure where I saw the interview (I really hope it wasn't Entertainment Tonight or I'll be eating my own shoe leather right now - it was some time ago!) Wherever it was, he appears genuine and very mature. And yeah, unlike Osment, Lloyd... well... comes off like a flake, a ham, and pretty self absorbed. These are two little boys that are handling their newfound stardom quite differently.
musings on Moriarty by Lazarus Long	Feb 17th, 2000 02:42:31 AM
I like how Moriarty was referring to the several great adapted screenplays, and how they whittled down long material, then used Green Mile as an example. I believe that screenplay could have been whittled down even more. The Cider House Rules was a decent film, but funny how Irving wound up with the things he complained about earlier adaptions of his work. Not a "great" film by any stretch of the imagination. As for Goldman's comments, how he can put Kubrick on a pedestal and dis every other great modern filmmaker kind of pisses me off. GOldman doesn't have a perfect track record himself, and how Martin Scorsese isn't up there w/ Kubrick baffles me. The guy is every bit as uncompromising and revolutionary, and about 50 times more prolific (not that I'm criticising Kubrick for his smaller output). Just because a kid turns in a performance better than any other child actor doesn't mean they should get an award. They shouldn't get a "handicap" because of their age, rather they should be judged against their elders equally. I can't remember when a young actor's performance was truly the best of the year. Maybe Tatum O' Neal deserved it for Paper Moon, and Jodie Foster SHOULD have won for Taxi Driver. But I think it would be pretty unfair to give it to Osment. Chirstopher Plummer should have been nominated anyway for The Insider. Or Philip Seymour Hoffman for anything. As for the guy who thought Ed Norton's performance could have been done by any actor in Hollywood, think again, pal. Most reviews of Fight Club, even the negative ones, pointed out how amazing Norton was. It was a ballsy, daring performance, a mixture of sarcasm, desperation, and intensity that I really don't think many, if any, others are capable of. He was robbed, as was the film for numerous other technical awards.
Credibility for AICN, huh? by Palmer Eldritch	Feb 17th, 2000 03:50:12 AM
Lets just pray Pitch Black doesn't turn out to be another "Burn, Hollywood Burn" then.
It's not just you tommy five tone by Hotspur	Feb 17th, 2000 08:02:15 AM
I have also seen that tear once in a while.
Guess what kids! That kid is probably winning. by gilmour	Feb 17th, 2000 08:11:25 AM
I personally don't see Cruise winning the Oscar. And he's a good actor yes and in 99' he showed us all alot by being in Eyes Wide Shut and Magnolia. But he's also starred in alot of "formula" films and I can't say Cruise "finally" will get it. I know the kids only 11, but they've given it to young kids before and Anna Paquin winning the oscar was a HUGE shock and osment is seen as having a good chance.
Hey Moriarty by StarBarella	Feb 17th, 2000 09:27:13 AM
Don't you hate it when Thursday feels like Wednesday...? Thanks for the report though, late as it may be. Bwa-hahahaha.
HARRY! When are you going to review American Psycho? by Obscure Homage	Feb 17th, 2000 10:22:29 AM
This has nothing to do with Moriarty's rumblings, although I do find them informative and witty. Harry, are you planning on reviewing American Psycho in the near future? I need to get a solid perspective on this film, wh ich I have been eagerly anticipating for quite some time now. Thanks for your attention!
What? by Anton_Sirius	Feb 17th, 2000 10:36:39 AM
Oh, the Oscars. Yawn. Gee, they screwed up the nominations again, what a shock. News flash, folks- we won't get a better system until we start just flat out ignoring the Academy. Don't bitch about the noms, don't watch the telecast, just ignore them and eventually they'll go away, or at least have their thunder stolen by someone who (hopefully) has a clue.
Disregard Previous Post by Anton_Sirius	Feb 17th, 2000 10:46:25 AM
Angelina will probably win, because the shmucks at the Academy have a history of giving people SBG's for previous work (Butterfield 8, anyone?) but Toni deserves it. She was essentially working in a vacuum, with only two tiny scenes that I can recall where she interacted with anyone other than The Kid, yet she was note perfect for the whole damn movie. And that scene in the car was way too sappy and melodramatic, yet I was still all misty when it hit. Why? Toni. Goddess but that woman is talented.
Roger Corman deserves a lifetime achievement Oscar or Thalberg A by Citizen Pain	Feb 17th, 2000 12:16:19 PM
If anyone deserves a lifetime achievement Oscar, it's Roger Corman. Sure, some of his films were often loooooow-budget. Ok, ALL of his films were low budget. But, his influence cannot be ignored. He is the Father of Alternitive/Independant cinema. He is the mentor to Francis Ford Coppola, Martin Scorsese, Ron Howard, Jonathan Demme and Jack Nicholson. If not the Oscar, then the Irving Thalberg Award, I mean Warren Beatty has made some stinkers too. What do you guys think?
John Williams Tribute by Ed_Grimley	Feb 17th, 2000 12:20:35 PM
I just wanted to remind Moriarty that John Williams was already honoured quite admirably. "The Happy Wanderers" aka Stan and Yosh Shmenge saluted him once on SCTV. If I remember, Stan wore an imitation R2D2 hat, and Yosh was dressed like Darth Vader. Snakes hung down from the ceiling a la "Indiana Jones"
Superman music by Dave_F	Feb 17th, 2000 02:02:53 PM
When you look at the best music of John Williams, it's truly staggering. Being the huge fan I am of the Superman movie, I'm tempted, however, to say that it's his "most perfect" score. It's hard, 'cause Raiders of the Lost Ark is so damn "on," and Star Wars is no slouch, but Williams' themes so quintessentially define Superman, so hit the nail on the head, that I have to give it the slight nod. Agentcooper, great example by the way. The fanfare is what everyone knows (crank it up loud during the credits, especially when the Superman "S" explodes onto the screen!), but there're so many great little moments too. One of my personal favorite non-fanfare moments comes when Superman finds Lois' body - there's a reprise of the love theme, and then, as he kisses her and lowers her body, the music pauses, with only this odd, lilting instrument (harp?)chiming a few notes. An amazing musical depiction of the realization of death, and one's powerlessness in the face of it. Or how about the quiet reprise of the fanfare when lil' baby Supes raises that truck over his Pa? Or the dark musical sting when General Zod raises his eyes to confront Jor-El and the verdict of the council? Hell, what a score. Yep, Agentcooper, no doubt in my mind that William's contribution to the film is staggeringly huge. He should really be considered one of THE principal creators behind the film, right up there with Richard Donner, Mario Puzo, and Christopher Reeves. I'm buyin' this new CD today.
DOUBLE HATE by RipReaver	Feb 17th, 2000 03:38:26 PM
OH yeah? how about those korn kids in a dying fetus pit, or hell, even good ole fashion slayer still has among the most brutal pits on earth, or how about seeing them churned to little pieces by canadas cryptopsy, or see them skewered to the now defunct brutal truth? yeah korn, die you hip hop ny hardcore rip off little fags DIE AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! biohazard had it going when you were little tit sucking brats!!!!.....Hey, how about a mosh pit at the oscars?
Pitch Black hype machine continues . . . by Stud Boy	Feb 17th, 2000 06:28:09 PM
The scary thing is that every sci-fi film until the next millenium is gonna be touted by Harry and his fellow geeks as being the one that finally does it. The one that finally does what . . . is as good as Alien?? or some other movie from 15-20 years ago. I really thought AICN was a cool concept of how the Hollywood hype machine perverts the system and how AICN intervenes and puts a big food in there asses but in this case it's become their agent of mass penetration. Avoid the darkness and get into the light wait for video on Pitch Black if you MUST see it.
Is Harry in trouble with the Academy? by mena	Feb 17th, 2000 08:48:07 PM
I just read this off the web. Are you guys in any trouble? Here's the link: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/n m/20000217/re/oscars_web_1.htm l
Pitch Black was... by cyn1125	Feb 17th, 2000 08:56:46 PM
... a cool fu&%$#@ flick. I saw it last night the audience I was with had a blast. Does it really have to be better than Alien(s) to be a good film why can't we just pass the popcorn and watch our girlfriends screem and rip a hole into our arms. Who cares Darth about the Fuc&*%g camera movment are you that critical. It's deffinitly worth my $ I'm bringing my boys to check it out peace.
Bobby Darin Lives..Thanks Kevin Spacey!! by macknife	Feb 21st, 2000 06:21:17 PM
Jeezus Christ!! Are you guys too cool or something to acknowledge Bobby Darin or the coming Darin biopic in any way, shape or form?? "American Beauty" (ever hear of that film??) contains FOUR Darin tunes! Kevin Spacey (do you know who he is??) ended his "60 Minutes" interview on network TV last night, my mentioning that he will most likely be signed to do the Darin biopic as his next venture... WHY are YOU so "behind the curve" on this one?? OK..go ahead and laugh..I'm a Bobby Darin Fan, and I should get a life, but seriously, it starts to look like reverse snobism when AICN acts as if Darin and/or his Biopic (there are actually TWO rumored Darin-Bio productions, somewhat currently at odds) do not exist. Re-adjust your cool-meter, for Chrissakes, or just WAKE UP!! I won't even BOTHER to address the issue of Darin's coolness, which has undoubtedly contributed to the interest of such a pic in the real world. This ISN'T Pat Boone..or Vic Damone...or James Darren..or Bobby Rydell..this is BOBBY DARIN, who at 21 years of age,in 1959, out-Sinatra'd Sinatra with the coolest anthem to this very day, the everlastingly hip "Mack The Knife"!!!..As Dr. Evil would say,.."..you just don't get it, do you.."
OPEN YOUR HEARTS by noahsark	Mar 1st, 2000 06:26:42 AM
OK, I see so much cynicism & self-righteousness on this website that I often wonder were you people come from. Didn't you have mothers? Have you ever had children? Every film doesn't have to be cutting-edge, innovative, dark, sexy or about totally screwed-up characters to be worthwhile. If that were the case, we'd never have or at least appreciate such gems of the past as THE WIZARD OF OZ, IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE, AMERICAN GRAFFITI, BREAKING AWAY, HOOSIERS or LOCAL HERO. Many of these were reviled at first by film elitists & are now considered cinema treasures! I happen to think that lovely, life-affirming flicks like FORREST GUMP & THE CIDER HOUSE RULES are sorely needed in this desperate, chaotic world. If I had an Academy vote, mine would have gone to QUIZ SHOW & THE INSIDER in those respective yrs, but I still love & appreciate the other 2. As a matter of fact, I think BEING JOHN MALKOVICH is the most amazing movie of 1999, but CIDER HOUSE is the one I will want to share with my family & friends over the yrs. You have to appreciate each film for the goals it has set for itself & how well it has achieved them. You can't possibly take a sweet, uplifting picture like CIDER HOUSE & compare it to something like EYES WIDE SHUT or THE MATRIX. All I'm saying is look for the positive in a film & you will almost always enjoy the ride - in varying degrees, of course, but you'll still like the journey. One final thought about Kevin Spacey as Bobby Darin - that SO FREAKIN' ROCKS it isn't even funny!!! Oh, and William Goldman is my screenwriting god!!!

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