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Avatar Script is Online... by Spell Checker	Feb 6th, 2000 01:50:57 AM
For anyone interested, here's the link to the Avatar scriptment (and many others, such as Hollow Man) online... http://www.dailyscript.com/scr ipts/scripts.html
Ooops.... it was removed... sorry.. by Spell Checker	Feb 6th, 2000 01:53:09 AM
Sorry, it was removed... if you're interested in reading it, perhaps you could email me... that and the Spiderman Scriptment...
Wow by Ambrose Chappell	Feb 6th, 2000 02:12:09 AM
This sounds like some pretty hard-core science fiction! I like it a lot. Floating mountains, eh? Fourteen foot power suits? Deadly alien beasties? It could visually rival Episode I. Here's to hoping that the characters and the plot are very good too!
dear God, who do I have to whore myself out with to read this sc by Tall_Boy	Feb 6th, 2000 02:27:59 AM
c'mon, somebody help me! cashcarstar69@hotmail.com My REAL e-mail. (hopefully I didn't just do something stupid. . .) Still, wow. I mean, ALIENS is my all time #1 favorite James Cameron movie of all time and Cameron dive into the world of sci-fi creatures realized on an even larger scale. Whoa. . .my brain simply will not process it. If I read the script, my head will probably explode or something. . .
Sounds pretty darn cool... is a bit cliche'd in the Plot departm by Cassius the Evil	Feb 6th, 2000 03:15:00 AM
Geez, must we have more movies about saving the environment? Guys, we get the point already. Princess Mononoke had it right... make the bad, ecology-hating villains likable! Please! And also... don't pull a "Soldier" and have Arnie's enemies be bumbling idiots that step into maddeningly obvious traps with a near-religious zeal.
Avatar: Hope for new planets by mpyre	Feb 6th, 2000 04:04:18 AM
Great posting, Harry. I hope this vision of a planet can be pulled off. I'm very tired of deserts, canyons, or California hills substituting for unknown worlds. Take a gander at Galaxy Quest, Starship Troopers, Soldier, Etc. We need worlds imagined like the ones envisioned by great artists like Michael Whelan--lots of alian fauna. How about huge fungul mushrooms sprouting out of jungles like Nausicaa? I remember cool landscapes from Sega's arcade game Galaxy ??? with huge alien plants the size of skyscrapers. Let's hope someone will have the planetary balls to take us to new worlds. (Please no more rocky deserts)
Avatar SUCKS by GDM	Feb 6th, 2000 05:36:17 AM
Okay, that's it. I've finally decided to give me two cents worth. Normally I would just read through the talk backs without contributing, but I just can't sit still after reading this post. The Avatar scriptment, in my most humble opinion, really, really sucks. And here's why: The whole Gaia theme which forms the core of the story is as well developed as that whole 'Titanic is a microcosm of society' crap. It was also extremely predictable. The way the story was structured, the Gaia revalation was supposed to be a major surprise, but right from the get go, there was no other direction this story could have taken. Considering the fantastic nature of the story, there was also a surprising lack of imagination. Praticularly lacking was the entire segment where the local princess teaches Josh the ways of the 'natural world'. This basically entails spearing fish, shooting animals full of arrows, running through the moon-lit forest and various other cliches. There is also very little character development in this scriptment. The bad guys are bad because they want to destroy nature and turn a profit, whereas the good guys want to preserve nature, regardless of the cost or sacrifice. That's it. Now, this being only a scriptment, one can assume that there would be room for the characters to develop in a full script, however, this will certainly not be the case. The story is so long, that, even if all the characters remain completely undeveloped, the movie will still run 3 hours. There is absolutely no room for real character development in this script. Simply too much is going on. As far as drama goes, the story is sorely lacking. Once it is established what's at stake and who is for nature and who is against, a rather by the numbers conflict is played out. First, there is a little skirmish between the forest dwellers and the bad humans, and the forest dwellers kick the evil humans ass. Then, the evil humans regroup and launch a major assault. Once again the forest dwellers kick the bad humans' ass and the bad humans have to retreat back to Earth. Basically, the technologically inferior forest dwellers ALWAYS kick the technologically advanced bad giys ass. It's never even close. It's always an overwhelming victory. Based on the technological imbalance between the two sides, this seem highly unrealistic, not to mention extremely unsatisfying dramatically. Sure, a few key foreset dwellers are killed, but this just doesn't do it. Not to harp on the complete lack of creativity, but I can't help but feel that one of the reasons this project was canned was for legal reasons. Virtually all of the Pandoran wildlife feels like it was transplanted right out of Wayne Douglas Barlowe's book EXPEDITION. There are too many similarities for this to be coincidental. Since Expedition is also being developed into a feature film, I can see a definite possibility of lawsuits emerging based on certain, if not all, of the Pandoran creature designs. And on a final note, let me just saw how horribly disappointed I was. I am HUGE science fiction fan and long to see a truely great SF movie grace the silver screen. Unfortunately, Avatar is not it, and in my opinion, this project will never be resurected. It is simply too mediocre of a story to justify the massive, massive cost that it will require to realise. Sigh. been a fan of this sight going on three years now, and in all that time I have never felt the need to give my opinion on talk back, regardless of whether I agreed or not with the posts. Needless to say, this time is
I hate transparent SF! by Battleflag	Feb 6th, 2000 06:16:40 AM
I mean come on! Is this really SF? If it were a book would it be praised? No it wouldn't because it has nothing new to offer or explore, just cliches and an "original" fantasy setting. Why do writers treat SF as an excuse to make an action film on another planet, instead of as a film which expands/challenges our views though fantastical imagination? It should not be called SF and it should not be fucking gushed over as the 'newest greatest' SF flick. Fuck, that's what they said about ID4! What we need are some thought provoking SF scripts (2001, Akira, Blade Runner) or at least some with a little more scope and wonder/dread(Star Wars,T2). This is just fucking derivative, typical shite. Or at least it sounds so, HAHAHAHAHAHAH.....
Belated Kung Hey Fat Choi, everybody. by twindaggerturkey	Feb 6th, 2000 06:48:23 AM
The environmental thing isn't too cliched if done properly. It probably won't be, though. Some good environment themed films that are not too preachy: PRINCESS MONONOKE, RAPA NUI (very underrated), MEDICINE MAN. Now, Cold War paranoia is a REAL has-been theme. (Sorry, Todd.)
Sounds good, but shouldn't they hire an ACTOR for the lead? by Alessan	Feb 6th, 2000 07:11:20 AM
Anyway, once the rest of the world declares war on Austria, Arnie's gonna end up in a internment camp.
Two more hours with Jar Jar Binks? Fuck that ... by boggybri	Feb 6th, 2000 08:21:46 AM
I read this thing and it was shit. The characters were extremely flat, the story was facile and there were gaping holes in the plot. The human characters were basically redundant - they were unconcious for at least half of the script, and there wasn't even the slightest ethical qualm raised about the notion of cloning, especially for the purposes of colonising an inhabited planet. I was, however, particularly amused by a scene in which the main avatar is said to 'bust a move' at a tribal gathering, 'inspired by alot of MTV'. When will these people learn?
I have read all the talk backs and come to the conclusion that y by Mr Logic	Feb 6th, 2000 09:19:38 AM
Yes thats right you incensed individual totally pathetic. Just a bunch of unhealthy ``comic book owner from the simpsons'' style geeks with no talents bitching and moaning about a film you have nothing to do with. Eternal you are a moron mate. Unreal was released when? A year ago, year and half maybe. Cameron would have written this script AGES!! ago long before UNREAL came out!!. Wake up geekboy stop playing computer games and realise the world is far more complex and challenging than the little cocoon you live in. Neo, you are an even bigger moron. ``Talking with the production people from Ep 1'' oh right yes and Lucas is my dad. Give up sunshine as for the ``so much of what you see is lawnmowers and vacuum cleaners and motorcycle storage units'' revelation. JESUS tell us something we don
James Cameron made Aliens and made it really work, he can make t by brokentusk	Feb 6th, 2000 10:06:18 AM
I hope he makes this. I hope he does it just right. I hope I read the script before I explode...
Good on ya Eternal mate, way to go SUBVERTING YOUR OWN ARGUMENT by Mr Logic	Feb 6th, 2000 10:24:20 AM
``never implied that JC MUST have played the game. Yeah, I worded it like that but I banged out my post so quickly that I gave no thought whatsoever to people finding fault with it '' ahhhh.............yeeeaaaaa right! Ok thanks for proving my point. Blimey that was easy! And while your chasing your tail I will clarify that my name IS a joke. It is based on the character of the same name in VIZ a British comic book. In this comic Mr Logic is a total Pratt and annoys all around him. That
Schwarzenegger?? by The Kid	Feb 6th, 2000 11:15:06 AM
I've only read the first several pages of the scriptment so far (copied it off the net when it was posted, before it was taken down), but how do you figure Schwarzenegger? I can sort of see it with a haggard-looking make-up job, but the guy has a huge build. Josh is slumped in a wheelchair with slightly shrunken, paralyzed legs. I doubt Schwarzenegger is right for this.
please make this movie before I die. Please, I said pretty pleas by eddie munster	Feb 6th, 2000 11:15:49 AM
Let's not make three other shitty actionflicks, take that money and make this film NOW!!! This sounds just a wee bit better than a lot of other sci-fi shit that I've been reading about on this site. Including that Batman bullshit, who needs that? I don't care if Arnold is involved, only he's gonna ask $20 milion just to be in it and if that means the project may not be made... well fuck him and his bankaccount. Do this movie James, make it so. Cheers
Good lord, Logic...grow up. by Basquiat	Feb 6th, 2000 11:51:07 AM
I posted something a while back about fans needing to be a little more positive about upcoming films and not to be overly critical in their anticipation...but Jesus, now I feel obligated to say something in their--our--defense. Mr. Logic, I don't know how much you know about this site or how often you drop by, but Christ, pal, most folks know that quite a few posts are made by people who are actually in the Industry here in the U.S. This Neo guy may very well have been in touch with Ep.1 team members; that's not something all that unusual here. As far as folks "up top" not giving two shits about the opinion of "fanboy twits," it might interest you to know that a hell of a lot of studio execs take unofficial polls of sites like this one, listening to reader feedback when making moves on a film. I usually hate getting into little chat-room tiffs on what's supposed to be a list of posts about the preceding article, but that petty rant of yours was a little over the top, my friend. You either need to cut back on the caffeine and start posting something that requires thought, or wait a few years before coming back, because you could use a serious attitude adjustment. Your puddle of bile up there says it all, child...grow up.
I've got a copy too, Moooo Ha Ha by Nappa Master	Feb 6th, 2000 11:51:30 AM
But if anyone wants it e-mail me at lw99dds@brunel.ac.uk
Do the Na'vi have intercourse with the cranial protrusion???? by lickerish	Feb 6th, 2000 01:53:53 PM
I would simply burst in vibration if I could experience those wild alien's sexual acts...how would their pleasure moans sound? Is there any way to make love on both sides of the connection? If a human man were stroking my thighs and kneading my primary while an avatar male was sliding his avatar staff onto me...all this during the hook up stage..could i hook up..would my neural circuitry be too preoccupied on either end to make a decision...or would it only be equivalent to fantasizing during an insipid bout of slagging here in the human form...since we only have a finite amount of sensory nerves preprogrammed..they may only be able to feel one body at a time..what a pity..perhaps with a bit of tinkering they could be modified to process both forms to different parts of the brain...which would be amazing...like being in two dimensions at once..like being biniscient with bipresence...
This forum is for opinions... by Mediator	Feb 6th, 2000 02:19:30 PM
...therefore, there will be opinions and bitching on it. That's what it was created for, the sharing of ideas. As for Mr. Logic, who the hell are you? A lot of insiders and very powerful entertainment people read this sight everyday, so before you go criticizing everyone in one of your rants stop to consider that maybe the person bitching actually knows what they're talking about. It gets annoying when people attack one another on here for something they said or expressing an opinion. If anyone has a point, just f-ing state it. By the way, this movie will suck, if it ever even gets made.
If 'Avatar' is like 'Unreal...' by Powerslave	Feb 6th, 2000 02:24:39 PM
...it will be very pretty, and very dull. That game was so boring. :) Although, it was fun to pick off Nalis with the sniper rifle.
My problems with Abking... by Obscure Homage	Feb 6th, 2000 02:29:07 PM
I have a big problem with Abking/Mbaction because of the simple fact that he made an ass out of himself with his one year+ End of Days rampage and he tore apart anyone who even had the slightest doubt about the overwhelmingly disappointing flick. When the movie was finally released to harsh reviews and a lackluster box office, Mr. Abking would not admit that he was wrong. Now comes the icing on the cake...He starts off his Avatar review (which is suspicious considering that Garth posted one last week) saying that "Avatar is going to be the action blockbuster that End of Days wasn't." The sick, twisted cycle repeats itself again. I will look foward to reading Abkings incessant ramblings about how much The Sixth Day is going to kick ass, and I hope he will find the nerve to admit that he is insane if the movie tanks. A scenario that seems as likely as an End of Days sequel.
A great Science Fiction film script is languishing unmade in my by jalora	Feb 6th, 2000 03:21:16 PM
...and people want to make this drivel? Cameron's Spiderman "scriptment" was crap, too. I can't believe they are shooting that crap. I mean, Electro and the Sandman? Where the heck is Doc Ock or the GREEN GOBLIN? Cripes. The King of the World is slipping...
SIMPLYSCRIPTS.COM by knight_of_Ni!	Feb 6th, 2000 04:15:51 PM
For all you boys and girls out there looking for all these scriptments and screenplays, this sight has 'em all!! They STILL have Avatar, they have both Cameron's Spiderman and a full script of what was supposedly his and some other guys (they're awful though), they even have that wonderful AvP script along with Gibson's version of Alien 3. Do yourself the favor folks, just bookmark this page and check it often, cause they scour the web for you and find all these beauts.
Science Fiction by Elohim	Feb 6th, 2000 04:22:45 PM
It's always a shame to see movies with a lot of potential resort to themes that have proven successful in order to sell tickets. The bottom line is that no one wants to shell out $200 million to make a movie that might tank. It's better to play it safe and give the audience a storyline they are familiar with so that everyone focuses on the one thing that is certain to be good... the special effects. A compelling story is much more difficult (and more risky box office wise) to pull off. There is a lot of potential in Avatar. Josh (btw someone with the name Josh should never under any circumstances be played by Ahnuld) is a broken man who is given a new, healthy body. He has divided loyalties... the company gave him this second chance, but the aliens have taken him in and accepted him. Throw in that the resources mined here are of vital importance in solving a major energy crisis on Earth, and the aliens are particularly alien (meaning that they have some customs that are decidedly morally distasteful to the audience) and you have some real conflict. The humans are doing their best to protect the environment, but you can't make an omlet without breaking some eggs.. etc. The aliens have been known to wipe out entire mining colonies for reasons that seem trivial to us, but very important to them. These are turns that the movie could take. Things that might give us something that we haven't seen before (or at least not much). Will it happen? Probably not. I forsee a trite (the planet is named Pandora... sheesh) environmental fable with very pretty special effects that will make tons of money, and I understand why it has to be that way. But that doesn't keep me from wishing that movies could be better.
A Talkback with my name all over it by Lightstormer	Feb 6th, 2000 05:32:21 PM
OK. Since I really don't want to fall into the pit of the endlessly-debating fanboys with "this sucks" / "that sucks" / "YOU suck," I'm going to resist the urge to tell all the Avatar nay-sayers to go piss up a rope. OK, well... at least, not to each one individually. Collectively, I think you should all go piss up a rope. Anyway, I'd like to remind anyone that thinks Cameron is your average hollywood "just-write-more-action-tripe" writer about the man's track record. Let's go through it, now... Terminator / Rambo II / Aliens / The Abyss / T2 / True Lies / Titanic, as well as the the STAN LEE-APPROVED original script and scriptment for Spiderman, not to mention the obscure but fascinating "Crowded Room," which, I see, Neo has the sense to appreciate. So, yes, the man has done a lot of action. BUT IT'S GOOD ACTION. And that's not all it is. James Cameron has NEVER written some shitty Jean Claude Van Dumbshit script, nor has he written anything as wretchedly bad as "Starshit Troopers." The man writes for people. He really does. What would The Abyss be without the relationship of Bud and Lindsey? How affecting would Aliens be without a scared little girl and Ripley (who was looking for a daughter to fill the void of the one she had lost?) Think about the reason why Kyle Reese traveled through time to fight the Terminator, KNOWING he wouldn't come back? Because he was in love with Sarah. Cameron knows that there's more to SF and action stories than just wild visuals and chase scenes. He knows that if there's no emotional investment on the part of the audience, then the story won't mean dick to them. And, yes, we can sometimes see where a relationship or a storyline is heading in his scripts. (Who couldn't tell in the first act of the Abyss that Bud & Lindsey would be back together in the end?) But that's because it's the most logical progression of the story. He wouldn't pull some horrible trick out of his ass in the midway point just so he could say, "HA! Tricked you!" That's not how story structure works. If that's what floats your boat, watch more Kevin Williamson movies. Cameron is one of the best writers in the industry, hands down. His movies have influenced scores of filmmakers today. It's unfortunate that some of them have missed the aspect of the emotional involvement in the storytelling. At any rate, a lot of the pissing and moaning contrarians who frequent AICN may not be aware that Jim was weaned on many of the same classic SF and comics as they/you/we were. Spiderman was a labor of love for him. He's always loved Stan Lee's work. He read all the classic SF tales, was fascinated by ideas like space travel, underwater technologies and civilizations; he was particularly inspired by "2001" and envious of Star Wars. ("That movie pissed me off. I wanted to MAKE that film.") He lives and breathes science. In college, he double-majored in physics and art. Nice right brain /left brain reconciliation, there. OK, OK... so I'm giving you the man's bio. Sorry. But I'm just saying the guy knows his shit. So take some of that into consideration before you want to just stand up and say "the guy made Titanic, and that was phenomenally successful, so I'm only cool if I say everything he does sucks. God knows, if you like something that a LOT of people like, then you have no integrity." Whatever. There's a lot more to the guy than most people give him credit for, and the same goes for his work. (Yes, I know... I'd feel less enthused if I ever worked for the man. Perhaps, but that's a different subject.) And whereas this particular version of AVATAR is concerned, remember that it IS a TREATMENT. (OK, "Scriptment," which Jim coined, but I'm sure a lot of aspiring writers will be using.) It is NOT a fleshed-out written-in-stone script. It is his initial ideas of the visuals, the characters, the story structure, etc. It is the clay on the table. Sadly, it may not become anything more, since even Jim realizes it would be a little too expensive and difficult to make. Plus, he's got 3 or 4 other projects right now. (Dark Angel, A CG Mars IMAX movie, and a sister Mars Mini-series.) The budget for Avatar was expected to START at $300 million. I don't think even Jim wants that kind of pressure. (It would be ok if it became his next Titanic, but it would be death if it were his next Strange Days.) Anyway... I've hero-worshipped long enough. Give the guy a break. At least he didn't give us Phantom Menace. (Just kidding, George.)
I don't care if it's clishe I need a damn good science fiction m by mr_Marbles	Feb 6th, 2000 05:43:41 PM
I am very disapointed in people who bash movies that in my opinion will help a genre that is slowly dying. In the past movie goers were treated to dozens of sc-fi related movies a year, but recently there has been a lacking amount. I don't care if the story isn't entirely new or thought provoking, all I want is a decent movie that will take me to another place for 2 hours and give me a thrill ride that makes your jaw drop. BTW if any of you liked star wars Episode one I can't see why you wouldn't like Avatar, because that movie sucked.
Avatar CGI by Fruit Bat	Feb 6th, 2000 07:07:35 PM
Wait a sec! I read that Avatar was supposed to be an all-CG movie. (On dark horizons, I believe). What's with that?
Shout out to all my Tackback Peeps who sent me Avatar scriptment by Tall_Boy	Feb 6th, 2000 10:32:19 PM
Whoa, slided into ghetto speak there. Well, thanks anyways guys. Ah, the unity of geekdom. . .
You want Cameron stories? by Lightstormer	Feb 7th, 2000 12:04:33 PM
Neo (A very cool MF'er)-- I suppose I should just Email this instead of posting, but I love sharing these things with the public. Lightstormer's Favorite Cameron Stories 1) In Rome, after being fired on "Piranha 2" by an irrational executive producer, Cameron used his credit card to break into the studio's editing room at night, learned how to work the Italian equivalent of a KEM editing machine, and re-edited the movie his way over a couple of weeks. 2) As legend had it, Jim drove laps in his Ferrari inside the nuclear reactor they used as the "A-Tank" on the Abyss (after it was drained, of course.) Jim's reply to that story: "Not true, but not a bad idea." 3) Echoing the T2 helicopter story, in True Lies, Jim reassured Jamie Lee Curtis that she would be perfectly safe hanging out of the chopper during the Florida Keys chase sequence. She asked him where he was going to be. "I'm going to be the one hanging over you, filming." 4) Again on True Lies: Following the chase out of the billionaire's Swiss mansion, when Arnold shoots his gun 5 inches from Tom Arnold's face, taking down the last two ski-troops, Tom was worried whether or not this gag was safe. Jim sat in Tom's place and told Arnie to fire the gun the way he was supposed to. BLAM! No problem. Places, everyone. Of course, there are several more stories I could tell, but I'm not 100% with all the details, and I'd hate to get something wrong.... Oh, and just so's I'm on-topic, I'm only about 30 pages into my copy of the AV scriptment, but so far it's pretty damned interesting. BTW, NEO, you can find a copy of the "Crowded Room" script online at (No, this is not my site.) I highly suggest it. It's a remarkable read.
ABKing... by JON1969	Feb 7th, 2000 12:09:09 PM
I love the big man ... but I would not wish to see the Arnold in this film. He lacks the range ... this film would need, anyway Cameron is not making this film. It is over .. dead! It is a interesting piece of work, but he's moved on ... and how much would this film cost? 300 mill ... forget! Still for the sake of fanboy discussion ... why not add this to Arnold's plate ... he will never get a around to doing it and it will never get made. Im would rather see a young actor in the role ... Jude Law ... or someone else. What does everyone else thinks?
mis-casting Josh Sully. by Revelare	Feb 7th, 2000 12:45:57 PM
Arnold? No. When reading this I saw Josh Sully played by someone like Nicholas Cage. You know, someone that can act. Since Cameron wants to do this film in all CGI, Cage's features can be incorporated into the alien's CGI. However, I also saw this film as being a mixture of CGI-live action. At least the humans and the sets they're to be on. I would LOVE to see how James Cameron envisions the city on the moon. "City lights spider-webbed across the darkside of the moons surface."
ARNOLD??? by Matchstick77	Feb 7th, 2000 01:43:58 PM
Have you really READ the scriptment? Josh, the protagonist of the film, is a war vet with no ability left in his legs...He is disallusioned and goes to Pandora initially because they offer him a chance to walk again. That kind of pain and elation could never be handled by the Austrian, much as I love his work with Cameron. Might I suggest, since so much of the movie IS CGI and does not require a star of Arnold's caliber (driving cost further up) that an excellent character actor with an expressive voice might be MUCH better suited..Any suggestions? :)
AVATAR by Lobanhaki	Feb 7th, 2000 10:04:42 PM
Sounds good to me. Personally speaking, I'm excited to hear about a movie like this. I've had the privilege of growing up in an era that's seen the work of Spielberg, Lucas, and Cameron, men who have collectively taken Sci-Fi out of the cinematic ghetto and propelled it into new territory. The possibilities are great. In my amateur opinion, Lucas's work on the prequel trilogy could very well open the doors for more and better science fiction and fantasy pictures, including Cameron's. Cameron is a pioneer, no doubt about it. He is always willing to come up with new solutions to problems other people just avoid dealing with.
Dances with the Abyss of the Jedi by bradshcw	Feb 8th, 2000 03:15:43 PM
I like Cameron but this scriptment read like Dances with Wolves and I mean right down to the big hunt scene, the relationship with the native...it's pretty easy to go and on. I can't see how they could afford to make this as live action but as an Akira-style anime flick it would rock. The primary problem is the story. Too much DwW, Abyss and Jedi. of course James has never been too original. Check Starship Troopers for his inspiration for Aliens, Demon with A Glass Hand for Terminator...and anything on Lifetime for Titanic. Well, I'd still go because he somehow manages to breath life into these retreads but I'd bet you just about anything this take on Avatar never gets made.
Would probably make a better anime by Sith Lord Jesus	Feb 8th, 2000 11:51:09 PM
Want AVATAR to look as good as what Cameron visualizes and not cost friggin' Fort Knox to make? Give it to Miyazaki or one of the other anime giants over in Japan. A good anime studio--such as the people who gave us MACROSS PLUS or GHOST IN THE SHELL--would crank out a flick that would put anything made by Cameron AND Lucasfilm combined to shame. It wouldn't cost US$300 mil, and Arnie could still do the voice acting for his character. Just a thought.

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