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No more beating around the bush.... This is Anakin... I think

whoah.... by mod29	Feb 5th, 2000 02:34:13 AM
Looks good, but can he act? AFter JAke Loydd..... AGH!!!! I wouldnt be able to take it anymore! -mod29
An interesting twist... by nitekatt	Feb 5th, 2000 02:38:39 AM
but not unlike the mind of George Lucas!
I don't believe it I'm actually first! by J-Dizzle	Feb 5th, 2000 02:43:25 AM
Is this a dream? I'm first on a Star Wars talkback, WOO HOO! Anyway, so this is the guy most likely to play as Anakin huh? Well, one things, for sure, he looks nothing like an older Jake Lloyd! But then again I'm just glad that it isn't Leo, although there is some confusion as to whether or not he really is out of the Anakin picture. Hey, anybody here thinks Ray Park is being paid to spread false rumors, or are we looking at Anakin in Ep2? And please, for the love of God, nobody say shit like "BOO HOO HOO, EP2 IS GONNA SUCK, LUCAS MUST DIE!". Let's forget about this Star Wars fans vs TPM Bashers debate, and start concentrating on what really needs our attention.
Eww by XrAfEx	Feb 5th, 2000 02:45:26 AM
Not the prettiest boy out there, and I'm not really seeing the resemblence. Oh well. As long as he can kick ass.
That's a wrap! by Sardonicus	Feb 5th, 2000 02:45:30 AM
Well, I'm convinced. Good going, Harry! Bon voy-a-gee!
So close yet so far by Mr. Gerbik	Feb 5th, 2000 02:46:57 AM
I" don't really give a shit as long as it ain't fucking leonardo dicaprio. This guy looks like a fucking stiff but what do I know. I am Gerbik
IT'S TREY PARKER AS ANAKIN!!! by Mr. Gerbik	Feb 5th, 2000 02:49:05 AM
Holy Shit, I didn't realize that Lucas was so impressed with Bigger longer and uncut. Holy Shit, this is a big fucking break after BASEketball, I guess Matt Stone feels left out though.
darthpsychotic:And In Time Of Our Greatest Despair There Shall C by darthpsychotic	Feb 5th, 2000 02:50:05 AM
"And in time of our greatest despair there shall come a savior and he shall be known as: THE SON OF THE SUN" ("Journal of the Whills," 3:12)
Scruffy Looking no? by BDDres	Feb 5th, 2000 02:52:18 AM
Pretty big news here big guy. I don't know what to say nor can anyone else here for that matter. We don't know anything about him other than he's not much of a looker like Leo perhaps. ??? But even still...that doesn't mean anything, other than based on looks alone (which isn't a very good indicator of anything), he does not look like he and Portman make a match.
darthpsychotic: thank you harry by darthpsychotic	Feb 5th, 2000 02:53:08 AM
"And in time of our greatest despair there shall come a savior and he shall be known as: THE SON OF THE SUN" ("Journal of the Whills," 3:12)
Ass Kicking in Hollywood is fake... by BDDres	Feb 5th, 2000 02:56:40 AM
As for his martial arts abilities, they can teach anyone to do "HOLLYWOOD" Kung-fu, it's all fake anyway. In real life when someone gets punched bare knuckled the way they do in films, they would be knocked out! Also, Ewan looked impressive against the accomplished martial artist, Ray Park...keep that in mind.
George Lucas DESTROYED his own MYTH with Episode 1 by frenchie	Feb 5th, 2000 02:59:30 AM
Episode 1 was a great film but a "great film" was simply not enough. Episode 1 was supposed to be an INSTANT CLASSIC. I really really enjoyed it but it's not in my Top 10. It's not even my favorite from 1999. (it's the 6th sense)
BLAH by mr_ripley	Feb 5th, 2000 03:02:11 AM
I dunno about this. Sure, Lucas likes the whole unknown, untested (untalented) thing, but some corn-fed drama club amateur is just too bizarre. This guy seems more of a fighter than a lover, and EPISODE II is a love story. He just doesn't seem like leading man material. Superficiality (based on one photo) aside, isn't he too old? Amidala should be 8 to 10 years older, right? So I dunno. This all seems wrong. But George likes to do things his way, so who knows? If he is such a great fighter, then slap some shoe polish on him, give him some horns and bring us a new Sith apprentice.
It just doesn't matter! by Vulcan Bob	Feb 5th, 2000 03:06:49 AM
Who cares who they cast. I'm going to go see it anyway. So will most of us. personally I think they should cast Chris Rock. On another note. Yojimbo, is it even possible for you to write a complete sentence without the word FUCK in it? I'm no prude but come on dude! Take the time to think about what you want to write. Other than that I agree with you 100%. Vulcan Bob Over and Out!
Harry, I think you might be jumping the gun a bit (Ep.2 Palepati by Tall_Boy	Feb 5th, 2000 03:12:16 AM
-just cuz I think Lucas is supposed to still be writing the scripts now. But, honestly, what the fuck do I know. Still, this guy looks a little older than what I pictured Anakin to be in Ep.2, I thought he was going to be around 19-20 or so. Maybe its just the pic. Oh, and my 2 cent Ep.2 theory: DARTH SIDIOUS and SENATOR PALEPATINE are not the same person! Think about it, even on the Website, Emperor Palepatine and Senator Palepatine are two separte sections, not one big cohesive entry like it should be, just under Palepatine. And Darth Sidious doesn't link to Emperor Palepatine. ALSO, if Lucas wants to throw a twist at us in Ep.2 (ala "I AM YOUR FATHER" from Ep.5) think how freaky it'd be if Sidious and Palepatine were two different people. The next one is about the CLONE wars, could Sidous be a twisted clone of our favorite Nabbo senator? Things that make you go "Hhhhhmmmmmmm". Oh, and PS, those little idiots that are saying "LUCAS RAPED STAR WARS WITH EP.1, SO EVERYTHING WILL SUCK CUZ I SAY SO" I'll quote Method Man and Fred Drust, as in saying: "Shut the Fuck Up!"
Han Solo, you suck by Asmodeus	Feb 5th, 2000 03:14:54 AM
As you have pointed out, you were NOT first. If Greedo hadn't jerked the trigger, you'd be lying dead in the Talk Back Cantina. Next time, Solo, SHOOT FIRST, and walk out of there like a cool muthafucka, and apologize about the mess you've left (namely the Talk Back rookies that cry First while actually finishing second, or completely out of the running).
On Topic... by Asmodeus	Feb 5th, 2000 03:28:42 AM
Woody Boyd as Anakin.... Hopefully, this fella can actually act, and not just whip out stylish celluloid Karate. If this report is indeed true, I have my reservations: I really don't need to see Jedi mixing in kung fu moves. Ray Park (Parks?) was fine as Maul, the unholiest of unholies, who ushered in the return of the Sith, but I think Star Wars would do best not to stray too far from its established genre. Aside from the occasional Jedi Backflip and such, it would be anachronistic to have neo Jedi Gillian Anderson throw in Buffy the Sith Slayer blows. As thrilling as the action sequences may be, it would just be too odd to have a Van Damm Boba Fett, etc. This isn't The Matrix, and I hope Mr. Lucas hasn't been tempted to stray that direction. More Epic, less high kicking.
From the novice stage to the big screen with no interim and a di by Alexandra DuPont	Feb 5th, 2000 03:30:28 AM
Nice dossier of info, and he certainly sounds like a decent enough fellow. The
Why this might work if true. by Sterling Wolfe	Feb 5th, 2000 03:34:36 AM
I don't know the man, but my understanding is that Lucas drives well-trained actors completely up the wall by basically treating them like meat puppets (one of the things that drove Liam to his semi-nutty comments about leaving the business). Maybe some doey eyed newbie without much, if any, experience on the "real deal" will do a better job because he won't know how completely out of whack Lucas allegedly direction is with good directors. Poor Liam just looked like he needed a hug throughout the last film. Heck. If the rumors are true, it basically won't matter who does steps into the role of meat puppet anyway. I would think that the last thing on earth that Lucas would want is somebody like Leo, who's used to calling lots of shots, and is used to letting his instinct go on camera. Time to step back to my "wait and see" hole. www.themachineisdead.com
GARNER THE NEW SITH APPRENTICE?! by superninja	Feb 5th, 2000 03:54:04 AM
This guy is 25. Granted, Leo is maybe even older. But Leo LOOKS like he could play 18, as well as some of the other actors mentioned. I think MAYBE, just MAYBE, Harry's signals are crossed. Maybe Garner is up for the sith apprentice. It would make sense given his associate with Ray Parks. I don't see Lucas choosing an actor for Anakin based on his athletic abilities. Another poster mentioned how odd it would look for Garner to be putting the moves on Natalie Portman -- and based on this headshot, I agree. But then it might just be a bad headshot...
Harry! I have a question! Did your source say that Garner was by superninja	Feb 5th, 2000 03:58:51 AM
Because, seriously. The sith apprentice angle makes sense to me. Please respond.
could be by JMYoda	Feb 5th, 2000 04:10:37 AM
This guy looks the part, knows martial arts and is an unknown with some (albiet ameatur) acting experiance. He gets my aproval but then the clerk at the local grocery store would get my approval just as long as it ain't Leo.
look at the picture by Harris	Feb 5th, 2000 04:12:08 AM
NO WAY THAT THIS IS ANAKIN!!!
totally off-the-wall-outta-my-frikkin' skull comment. Hey, I'm j by Yossarian	Feb 5th, 2000 04:15:32 AM
Aww shit, what was I gonna say?
darthpsychotic:"And in time of our greatest despair there shall by darthpsychotic	Feb 5th, 2000 04:19:18 AM

Good choice by Cynic	Feb 5th, 2000 04:50:27 AM
I think he looks the part and he can kick ass. Nice scoop Harry.
DAMN IT! by woemcats	Feb 5th, 2000 05:11:57 AM
This guy looks exact-a-fucking like me! I don't BELIEVE IT! We look enough alike to be BROTHER! Same eyes, same chin! Hey, I am an unknown stage actor from Illinois, can I be Anakin? Geez, I am gonna hear comments about this. When I was little I looked like "that Home Alone kid". Now I'm Anakin!
Nothing but knuckleheads by LaughingBuddha	Feb 5th, 2000 05:18:11 AM
All right, where to begin? He probably will play Anakin. As for looks, Jeff Garner's piture was shot in the mid-west somewhere. Headshot photogs in NYC and LA would show you more of him. In that, they would not let him out of the studio without capturing his essence on film. His eyes are saying nothing, which reflects on the photog more than the subject. I am a professional actor with my share of credits-This pic says more about the photographer, than anything. Additionally, a good DP will determine whether he looks good in a motion picture. A great DP can make ANYONE look good in a film. An eye light and a back light makes Matthew McConehgy (SP) look good every time, and he is an ugly SOB. Lastly, Lucas could hire Margaret Thatcher to play Anakin, and I would be relieved that it was not Leonardo.
If he is Anakin, that means that I'm not gonna be Anakin! :( by DarthZachToo	Feb 5th, 2000 05:26:51 AM
I know I have to experience in acting or martial arts, but I WANTED TO BE ANAKIN DAMNIT!
Let me rephrase that... by DarthZachToo	Feb 5th, 2000 05:51:43 AM
I meant... I know I have no acting or martial arts experience, but I WANTED TO BE ANAKIN!
let's do the MATH by Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2000 06:11:50 AM
Okay, I'm not using reference material here, nor am I a SW geek encyclopedia, so correct me if I'm wrong. In Phantom Menace, Natalie was 16 years old playing 13? 14? Jake Lloyd was whatever playing 9? 10? Whatever. I thought I remembered Lucas or McCallum saying Episode Two takes place 12 or 13 years after Episode One. That puts Natalie playing a 25 year old when she's 18 or 19, and whoever playing Anakin is playing a 21 or 22 year old. It's not whether or not this guy looks 21, it's whether or not he looks 3-4 years younger than Natalie does NOW, which I don't think he does. I second the guy that says Mr. Garner looks like Peter Stormare. Also, whoever is cast as Anakin is not going to be a complete surprise. Someone that knows someone that knows the guy will leak it somewhere, kind of like this article. But the make up is going to have to be miraculous for this one to make sense...
So Ray Park's In Charge of Casting Now? by Bink.uk	Feb 5th, 2000 06:33:15 AM
That's just great. Wonderful. This film will not suck in any way.
No DiCaprio? Thank God almighty by eddie munster	Feb 5th, 2000 07:00:17 AM
Sweet. That was a lot of print just to anounce that Anakan fella. Don't know him, don't know if I care as long as it's not Leo "I'll think about it" DiCaprio. Beers & Cheers, and yes, I'm drunk again.
Feel the Force by Killeen	Feb 5th, 2000 08:06:54 AM
If you did, you'd realize this guy's not going to be Anakin. I'm actually pretty attuned to my ESP core, as Ingo Swann calls it, and I'm getting nothing from this guy. Another thing, it's been stated pretty emphatically from those involved that the actor must resemble Jake Lloyd--this guy strikes out again.
This guy looks like Johnny by Hobbs3	Feb 5th, 2000 08:45:48 AM
You know the guy in the Karate Kid who tries to steal Elizibeth Shue from Raplph Machio, then loses the big fight at the end to the Crane Kick. Kinda ironic he looks like a actor who loses in one of the most memorble Karate movie scenes. IS a dead ringer for that guy. He was also the guy who had his Porche dismantled in that Tom Hanks movie Bachleor Party. Wish I had a picture to compare the two, anyone else agree???
He does look the part... by gsolo	Feb 5th, 2000 09:18:32 AM
I think him and DiCaprio would be fine. The other choices...no way. Imagine if Leo hadn't done Titanic & Iron Mask. If he was fresh off Gilbert Grape. I think we'd be psyched. It's the same guy. Cameron is poor with actors. Actually, so is Lucas. But he is a very good actor and he does have that evil look going on. This kid looks like Luke a bit.
Here's the thing by Nordling	Feb 5th, 2000 09:20:52 AM
This guy will probably end up a Sith Warrior (Darth Mandalore, anyone?) or Boba Fett. Maybe it's just me, but he looks too old to play the Man Who Would Be The Walking Black Iron Lung. Plus, what's with all this Kung Fu Acrobatic stuff for Anakin? Sure, Luke was a jumper, but other than that leap in ESB from the stairs I never saw Vader jumping around like a gymnastics expert. (Okay, he flipped in ROTJ, but that was after Luke kicked him.) It always seemed to me that sheer strength was Vader's real strong point. When you connected with his lightsaber, it would feel like your arm was coming off. My personal pick for Anakin is Jonathan Jackson, because I think he's got the acting chops to do it, but I really believe that Anakin will be an unknown. If Jeff Garner turns out to be the guy I'll eat my shoes, but I don't think so. It's more important that the guy who plays Anakin be an actor first, and a master of asskickery second. But I could be wrong. We'l see - I think by the end of March we'll all know who Anakin will be.
Hey, darthpsychotic? by Nordling	Feb 5th, 2000 09:23:39 AM
It's Son of the Suns, not Sun. Tatooine, remember?
Nordling, it's Son of the Sun by Sgt_Hartman	Feb 5th, 2000 09:36:40 AM
There was speculation claiming that it was son of the suns cuz of tatooine's twin suns, but that was mostly fan-boy crap I guess? - Lucas had originally planed to put something else instead of "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away....", and that was: "And in times of greatest despair there shall come a savior and he shall be known as: The Son of the Sun." As you can see, it's just Sun. -this is even being considered as the prophecy of the chosen one itself, but I wouldnt bet my bottom dollar until we see all this in the following prequels... however, both at the end of ROTJ Special Edition and TPM, you can hear a guy shouting the same 5 second thing: "Son of the sun... SON OF THE SUN!!!" just thought I'd hand my 2 cents there :)
I don't know... by Nordling	Feb 5th, 2000 09:47:49 AM
it sounded like Son of the Suns to me...not that it matters one way or another, I'm still broke.
ummm........ by Renzella	Feb 5th, 2000 10:07:15 AM
Well, I don't know if Harry saw it, but IGN movies actually had an interview with DiCaprio in which he confirmed to be in the running for the part, and would be considering it when the script was finished. Now these words came straight from Leo's mouth, and this interview was only about a week ago (for The Beach). So, I'm leaning towards the whole 'Jeff Garner as a sith lord' side. Although, I was under the assumption that there was going to be a whole Sith Council in this one, with many Lords and Apprentices. While on the subject: The Phantom Menace was great entertainment. I think that in a few years time, when people look back, they will see how TPM fits in to the whole series. Back when ESB came out, it was largely criticised, and generally disliked by the public, but give a few years, and everyone loves it. I think (hope), this is the same reaction people will have to TPM. Just thought I would add my two cents to the whole debate. Renzella
Spell Check! (and too old!) by Cinemaphile	Feb 5th, 2000 10:20:05 AM
There's NO way he can look 20 to Portman's 24...he's just too damn old looking for the role. ...And by the way, Harry, I'm glad that at least ONCE, in your final reference to Ray, that you actually got his name right. I can't believe that such a self-proclaimed movie aficionado and SW fan can say Ray ParkS like 100 times..its just PARK!
Cool by The Kid	Feb 5th, 2000 10:27:56 AM
Can we be absolutely sure? Nope. Does it sound likely? Yep. Anyway, I'm glad Lucas is going with an unknown (I actually figured he would, instead of taking Boat Boy or another soap opera dud). If this really comes to pass, I'll be happy.....but I really hope he can act.
TPM is what George Lucas wanted... by wasp	Feb 5th, 2000 10:28:34 AM
I'm not trying to justify it, but I'm sick at the attitude that some Star Wars fans take toward The Phantom Menace--they seem to feel that George has ruined THEIR beloved Star Wars. It's not theirs. It belongs to George Lucas; he's always said that he made these movies for his own enjoyment, and if other people like it, that's great. So instead of whining to Lucas about how he's messing up your little fantasy world, how about you just go make your own freaking franchise of movies. We'll see how well it turns out.
Sheesh... by Ellie Sattler	Feb 5th, 2000 10:41:11 AM
That boy is HOT! Anyone have his phone number?
Whoop-ah-de-doo by user id indeed!	Feb 5th, 2000 10:55:32 AM
I don't really think much of this movie.All I can think of is that flood of marketing.And all those mees-ahs...
dicksnout by Crouton	Feb 5th, 2000 11:03:50 AM
Yeah, he sure does look 18!... whatever.
Please oh please. by Wheel99	Feb 5th, 2000 11:07:27 AM
just dont be Leo. Nothing would make me more upset than Leo.
message to eternal by james parry	Feb 5th, 2000 11:11:46 AM
It's only a movie.
ode to wasp. by james parry	Feb 5th, 2000 11:17:45 AM
I'm with you,Mr. lucas do what you like.
I'm excited a little bit. by 60091	Feb 5th, 2000 11:33:25 AM
Hey hey finally some Ep2 news to get a little excited about. I'm just imagining this....Anakin practicing his lightsaber moves and in walks Jar Jar accidently getting too close and getting beheaded....Ahhhh if only that could happen.
This guy looks 25,not 18! by Norm3	Feb 5th, 2000 12:05:29 PM
Can he act,is the big question! Go with Leo, George!
Well... I hope he's a GREAT actor. by Larry_Talbot	Feb 5th, 2000 12:19:29 PM
That's quite a role, I hope he's a better actor than Jake Lloyd or the whole Star Wars mythos is heading further down the toilet.
Ray Park is contracted through the next two movies. Why??? by Wheel99	Feb 5th, 2000 12:19:37 PM
I know everyone is speculating that a cloned Maul will be coming back or that Ray will be a stunt co-ordinator. Now we all know that Boba Fett will be in the next movie. I am hoping that Lucas will show him as the bad ass that he has been built up as. What better way do you get a guy to kick ass then drop a martial artist in his coustume and turn him loose on a bunch of Jedi. My theory is that Boba Fett will be played by Ray Park. Anyone agree/disagree???
No Resemblence to Jake Lloyd by crix	Feb 5th, 2000 12:22:57 PM
One of the casting requirements is a resemblence to the Anakin of just ten years previous. This guy looks nothing like him.
If this is to be Anakin Skywalker...Good :) by Kubrick	Feb 5th, 2000 12:23:48 PM
I've seen him and while he does look a little like Trey Parker he does look kind of like Sebastian Shaw and looks as tall as David Prowse did. He has the eyes of a guy who could fight like the greatest Jedi ever made and the figure of somebody who is in deep contact with The Force. Jeff Garner, welcome and I hope to see you on the big screen come 2002 in Star Wars:Episode 2!
Whatever happened to the Millennium Falcon? by spidey322	Feb 5th, 2000 12:32:05 PM
Harry - I remember when all the hype for EP1 was leaking out - you told us you read the script that had the good ol' Falcon in the movie - flown by someone familiar that we know. What happened to that? Anybody know?
IT'S DAWSON !!!!!!!! ANAKIN'S CREEK ! by Darth Siskel	Feb 5th, 2000 12:41:42 PM
AHAHAAA!
Interesting by Cold Fusion	Feb 5th, 2000 01:14:15 PM
Well, he's got that pretty boy look to him, he know martial arts so that helps with the action sequences, but he does look a tad old for Natalie Portman. Oh well, I guess you can't have it all. I hope he's got the acting chops to pull Anakin off. I'll give a litle credit to the people who say he may be a Sith Lord, but why this guy with the Anakin like features? Oh, and Wheel99, George Lucas did not build up Boba Fett as a bad ass, the fans did. Does having your jetpack malfunction and falling into the Sarlacc pit sqealing like a baby lend one to be a 'bad ass'. Nevertheless, he will reek of coolness in the next two movies. I especially like the part about the 'wookie scalps' being changed to 'Padawan braids.' Cool...
Hey, sounds good to me, Mr. Lucas. by Cassius the Evil	Feb 5th, 2000 01:33:38 PM
Seeing as how the only decent parts of TPM were Senator Palpatine and the Lightsaber battles, making Anakin a martial arts badass sounds extremely cool. Just make sure he can Act. Oh, and no more Jar Jar. And give Sam Jackson tons of great lines, all featuring the word "fuck." And show us more Palpatine... that guy kicks sooo much ass.
Wait a minute... by 7	Feb 5th, 2000 01:37:30 PM
That's Boba Fett! Yeah. Remember, Lucas said he's going to have a face?????? That's him. That's him. With this clarified, the question of who is going to get casted as Anakin continues....
He's WAY too old!!! by gilmour	Feb 5th, 2000 01:48:43 PM
James garner? star of the Maverick and Rockford files t.v show! My god the guy must be 70 years old by now by George what is he doing!
no WAY! by 6 of 24	Feb 5th, 2000 02:02:45 PM
I think it's another hoax, no way would they use somebody who's never been on camera. Lucas had a miserable time trying to drag a performance out of inexperienced Jake "Manekin" Lloyd on the last movie, and I don't think he's stupid enough to ask for the same kind of trouble twice in a row. Film acting is VERY different than stage acting, self-doubt or self-conciousness can be hidden on stage but are exposed by the camera... and the guy has a self-concious look in that picture. Plus he looks over 30, and not at all photogenic. The Brendan Fraser hoax made more sense.
Come on, this is a Star Wars TalkBack! by Gumpas Lev	Feb 5th, 2000 02:10:48 PM
Alexandra Dupont, Nordling, Eternal... all good, but what does it take to get a L'Auteur post?
Looks fine to me by GinaM	Feb 5th, 2000 02:11:05 PM
I think Jeff Garner certainly has the looks to be Anakin... question is, does he have the talent? Anyway, as long as they don't cast a superstar like DiCaprio I'm happy... And "Ray Parks"...is that supposed to be "Ray Park?" I've seen his name misspelled one too many times now!
OK by Filmster	Feb 5th, 2000 02:11:26 PM
I bet ya 25 cents it's not the guy.
If it's anyone other than BRENDAN FRASER then a big mistake's be by togmeister	Feb 5th, 2000 02:34:05 PM
Reasons why Fraser's gotta be everyone's first choice... 1. He can act (see 'Gods and Monsters). 2. He can be a romantic swashbuckling hero and a handle a sword/lightsaber (see 'The Mummy'). 3. His height (remember Vader is nearly 7 feet tall). 4. Ability to convey a sense of wonder (see the scene in 'Blast From The Past' where he looks at the sky for the first time). 5. Not quite A-list, thus, unlike with DiCaprio, preventing Lucas from having to shell out megamillions for his services (like he really needs the money). 6. He's a huge Star Wars geek so would surely give it 100% (who remembers at around the time of 'Mummy's release the interviews where he was saying he hated having to do all these promotional chores, because he wanted to be camped out outside the Grauman's Chinese?). The only factor you could hold against Fraser-as-Anakin is his age (older than Mcgregor, almost old enough to be Portman's dad), but remember Episode 2 takes place 20 years after Episode 1 so the continuing characters are going to be artificially aged anyway........
for god's sake, MUMMY ?? by Sgt_Hartman	Feb 5th, 2000 02:51:54 PM
that dude can't act worth a shit. -as one friend of mine pointed out, Fraser said he didn't like TPM and didnt understand why movies like the Mummy didnt get much attention - now WTF??? I must have enjoyed only like 5 minutes of that movie... I think those were a bit of the intro and the credits. - poor fella, he thinks he's done a great flick. I'd tell him to go watch the original Mummy. That's scary. I mean, if you'll do this like a comedy, that's ok..but I really couldnt get what they really wanted out of this one! no fucking way Fraser can be Anakin!
EVERYONE IS MISSING THE POINT by Swiss Toni	Feb 5th, 2000 02:54:20 PM
I actually think that this guy looks alright, although I doubt he'll be Anakin. ANYWAY, WHY DOES PORTMAN NEED TO LOOK OLDER THAN HIM??????? I am 21, my cousin 26. She looks about 16 and I look about 26. People don't always look their ages you know and I'm sure we're all aware of lads that are 18 and built like brick shit houses. As the suit of Vader denotes, Anakin is a big bastard and will no doubt have filled out a great deal by that age. I would almost expect him to look older than Amidala in order to show how strong he has grown and what a terrific force he is. If you want someone that looks like a young kid then cast DiCraprio. Isn't the main argument against him that he's a little runt?? In order for him to match up physically he's probably going to look older than Natalie. Who cares, as long as it ain't gay beach boy I reckon we can overlook the age factor. By the way Jordan, that was a funny fuckin post!!!! But more to the point, does Vadar polish his own helmet??? I'm sure we've seen from films like Happiness and American Beauty that all characters spank the plank, so what about the sith. Does Lord Vadar really use that meditation chamber for relaxing, as he always seems kind of stressed to me. Perhaps that's why he's so angry, he's never beat his meat. I've a feeling this post has gone down hill....Leaving....
i dont like close minded people by The JesTer	Feb 5th, 2000 02:55:14 PM
You guys...this isn't a perfect world. Just because Anakin's not gona be perfect...you guys bag on him? So what if he looks 25...there's nothing in the rule book that says a 25 year old actor can't play an 18 year old. I mean, sheesh...there IS something called MAKE UP you know? Plus, the fact that, that picture isn't a very good one. As long as he's at least 6 feet tall, resembles both young Anakin and Luke Skywalker (which I think he does), can act, and can fight...he's okay with me. You all are very demanding...you have to remember that George Lucas is doing what HE wants, not what the AUDIENCE wants...so just suck it up. If he were doing what's best for the audience, then he'd take JarJar out and put Maul back in...
Great choice! by Adonis	Feb 5th, 2000 03:06:17 PM
Looks pretty badass to me. I'm pumped. I want to see the script!
Brendan Fraser by 6 of 24	Feb 5th, 2000 03:09:50 PM
Even though I like Brendan Fraser, and even though he has most of the right qualities, he still wouldn't be my first pick for Anakin. Two reasons: (1) He's too old, no way is he 19. And (2) he lacks a visible Dark Side, even in "Gods and Monsters". He always seems to be a really good-natured, even-tempered guy, not someone who could grow up to be Darth Vader. But better him than some unknown dude who might be worse than Jake Lloyd!
This is GOOD by Dmaul885	Feb 5th, 2000 03:16:12 PM
Wow...okay, if this proves to be true, then i am satisified, releived, ecstatic...hell, just downright thrilled. This guy is just what we need. Okay, does he look like an older Jake Lloyd? Maybe not, maybe yes. I think Lloyd will look a lot more like Leo when he reaches his older days, but i could still see him looking like this ole' boy Jeff. However, as Harry points out, he can kick some ass, and that's key. Also, he has a depth to his look, sort of a tragic innocence, which i think is the most important ingredient to the man who will be Vader,and, wow, a guy from East Jesus who has a little experience with much at all, just a little of this there, a little of this there, a family guy...a guy who, if cast, will just be thrown into a situation that he is almost entirely unfamiliar with...does this remind of anyone else's life story? Seems rather...prophetic. Harry, i beleived you when you said it would be Ewan because, well, it made SENSE, so i never questioned it...and regardless of the consitent denials, low and behold...IT WAS TRUE. As much as i'd been getting used to the Leo idea, and although I'd give any of my vital organs to see Heath Ledger portray the doomed Jedi, my suspicion is you're right on this one, and I for one couldn't be more supportive of the decision if this is, as i beleive it is, the decision...and i hope the Anakin casting is made public soon so we can focus on these rumours of Carlyle and Byrne...and as far as that's concerned...oh, be still my beating heart... :)
Thank God it's not Leo or Dawson... by agentcooper	Feb 5th, 2000 03:25:02 PM
Well, obviously, none of us know anything about this guy, but I will say that this is exactly the kind of guy we need. Unknown, good at martial arts, supposedly a good actor. We don't need Leo or any Dawson's Soapopera actors to bring any of their baggage with them. He looks okay. If he's got the skills, I'm all for it.
I don't think so... by Achilles	Feb 5th, 2000 03:50:12 PM
I don't know, I don't really care one way or the other. I strongly doubt that martial arts ability is much of a factor. Ewan MacGregor is not a physically imposing guy or a good fighter in real life and he did a fantastic, very believable job in TPM with the lightsaber duels, as did Liam Neeson. Acting ability will be the deciding factor, I would think. Also, I strongly doubt that Lucas would want to toss either 15% of his budget or a large percentage of the gross to get DiCaprio, so forget that. If this guy can act, I'd say good luck, but he does look a little old.
Acting Ability... by bogrod	Feb 5th, 2000 03:54:02 PM
Hopefully, this guy can handle some pretty heavy material, as we all know he will have to do. I can't even imagine just how demented the third movie is going to be.
The only person who has the cojones to play Anakin is right unde by Kentucky Colonel	Feb 5th, 2000 04:28:06 PM
Now, the Colonel would be damned proud if this gentleman from our neighbor to the north, the great State of Indiana, would get the Anakin role, or the sith apprentice role, or the mechanic on the X-wing role, whatever. But you are all missing the point. The only person to play Anakin, I mean come on, why haven't we heard this name yet? There can only be one Anakin, and Leo Di C. can get over it. Why hasn't anyone mentioned one of our finest, quirkiest actor s around? I guess it's so obvious that nobody really realised that he had not been cast for the part until all these pesky rumors about other people playing Anakin began to circulate. And I'm no insider, mind you. I'm as far from Hollywood as LA is from the Kentucky Derby, and that a looong way, mister. Must be a conspiracy, but then again everything is a conspiracy, right? From the whole Kennedy thing to that line of bullshit you used the other night when you were trying to get into that girl's pants. But I digress. We need focus, now more than ever. There can be but ONE. That one should, no, MUST be Jeff Goldblum. HE BALLS-OUT RULES!!! ADMIT IT FANBOY!!! The hair, you could dye that, and as for his age, well, I'm sure the boys at Lucasfilm have the technology to digitize him back to his early 20's. Remember that movie "Mr. Frost"? Tell me he wouldn't RULE as Vader! The Fly? Didn't that just creep you out? He's done sci-fi before (Body Snatchers, Buck Banzi, Fly, Earth Girls, Independence Day and those 2 dino flicks). Why hasn't someone put a script in this guy's hand yet? Is it because Portman dosen't want to play in the shadows of such a great Artist, one who's piss bucket she is not worthy to even carry! Or is Georgie-boy too intimidated to let a REAL actor get in front of his camera. Anyway, I think he could pull it off, and do it with so much style and grace that he'd be awarded a special Olympic medal or something. GOLDBLUM RULES! ADMIT IT FANBOY!!! Or if not Anakin how about Indiana Jones? Put a few pounds on him, give him that chin-scar and a bullwhip and watch out! Or as Mr. Spock in the next TNG movie (which should be about Vulcan-Romulan reunification BTW). Now THAT would rule! Somebody get this guy's number! ps-do I get a "cut" if he does land the role? I'd give it to charity!!! (www.bestfriends.org---they RULE!) Jeff, good luck man! I hope clearer heads like ours prevail! And don't let Lucas push you around, either. Demand a cut of the merch....that's where the $$$ is at bro.
ep2 SUCKS!!!!! by bombay	Feb 5th, 2000 04:29:54 PM
LUCAS HAS DESTROYED THH MYTH!!!!!!!!!
They should have gone with Stephen Dorff or Owen C.Wilson, BUT.. by Skylewalker	Feb 5th, 2000 04:31:35 PM
this guys not bad. With the look from that there picture, I could actually see him being one badass DUDE. Plus, watching a pretty boy like that become evil will Rock. I suppose Natalie Portman will still have the last say in who gets cast, though, because she's gotta rank on the old wet-ometer. If Anakin doesn't DO it for her, this movie simply won't work. This guy just might get it done, though.
Episode II rumor and appology by Kentucky Colonel	Feb 5th, 2000 04:36:42 PM
First, an appology. Sorry for over-using the word "RULES!" in the last post. It all true, though. The Episode III rumor I hear going around is that, before being encased in the black suit we all know and loathe, Anakin looks just like THE IRON GIANT, except of course for the bald, scarred head. That would, um, be pretty cool.
looks about right to me by Needlenose Ned	Feb 5th, 2000 04:45:02 PM
Blond hair, check. Athleticism, check. Of course he's gonna be kinda skinny, cause most tall people are and Darth Vader was pretty damn tall. Acting is optional if we continue the pattern from TPM, where everyone was either completely stoic and concrete (Obi Wan, Qui-Gon, and Amidala)or completely corny and unbelievable (Jar-Jar and Anakin). And he doesn't have to look anything like the kid from TPM cause, let's face it, that kid looked nothing like dark haired ugly fat guy from ROTJ. Hopefully, in the next 2 films, James Earl Jones will do most of the acting for Anakin.
Cold Fusion needs a reading comprehention class. by Wheel99	Feb 5th, 2000 05:24:25 PM
I know the fans did. I was there in the 80's when everyone was blowing him after ESB. I was like " But he Just stood there!!!!!" If you re-read my post i asked for Lucas to show him as a bad ass like he has been bult up to be. I didnt specify by who. Show me where I said Lucas built him up to be a bad ass??????
Ha ha..it's a joke, right? by Bono	Feb 5th, 2000 05:29:12 PM
This guy looks more like BILL, THE GALACTIC HERO than a Jedi.
Kung Fu Acting by The Rabid Monkey	Feb 5th, 2000 06:06:09 PM
This guy seems to have been chosen for his ability to kick ass. Now sure that's important for a Star Wars flick but can the guy actually act? Sure we all know Mark Hamills acting ability wasn't supreme but cmon acting first martial arts second
Hooked on Phonics worked for me! by Cold Fusion	Feb 5th, 2000 06:06:43 PM
Hey Wheel, this is what you typed: "I am hoping that Lucas will show him as the bad ass that he has been built up as." Now, I thought that you had typed:'he has built him up as' not 'he has been built up as'. It was an honest mistake when one tries to read through all the posts, and I do apologize. But the next time you try to accuse someone of needing a 'reading comprehention class', try to at least spell 'comprehension' correctly.
This is a let down, they should get Dicaprio! by Drath	Feb 5th, 2000 06:33:35 PM
Really, this guy is TOO OLD! I was excited by the idea of Dicaprio as Anakin, but this just kills everything! Don't get me wrongo, I don't mind an unknown for Anakin. I haven't got a clue who Jesse Spencer is, but he looked like the right guy for the job. This guy...no, he IS NOT YOUNGER-LOOKING THAN EWAN AND NATALIE! Amazing, Dicaprio is the same age but he looks half this guys age! Dangit, I knew I shouldn't have given a rat's ass about Anakin casting. This is NOT cool news, Harry!!!!
Trust in the force by EomoH	Feb 5th, 2000 06:43:27 PM
I am from a small town just 30 min. north of Indianapolis,IN. I have seen Jeff in theatre productions before and I thought he was very good. I actor can not make or break a movie especially with an ensemble cast like this one will be. A true fan of any genre would trust that overall, a person like George Lucas would know what he is doing. I dont think he has led us astray yet.
I have a question for all of you who think Garner is going to be by superninja	Feb 5th, 2000 07:49:32 PM
If Anakin is suck a kickass jedi, then WHY DOES HE NEED THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE? Jonathan Jackson, DiCaprio, Jessie Spenser, Jonathan Brandis, etc., all the actors that claim they've had meetings with Lucas for the part -- see what they all have in common? They're all thin, wirey guys. I'm sorry, but Garner looks too built and too old. I know they can do wonders with makeup, but he looks McGreggor's age, for pete's sake! As I said before, I think this guy is the new sith apprentice.
my thoughts by Amidala	Feb 5th, 2000 07:53:16 PM
First off, I'd like to say "Thanks" to Harry for getting a pic and getting us the info on Ep II casting. I have mixed feelings about this guy. I'm glad Lucas is going with an unknown, but somebody with no tv/film experience?! As much as I love Star Wars, I don't think Lucas is one of our best directors or screen writers. "I've got a bad feeling about this." But, I'm glad he didn't pick Leo, the ranting and raving by grown men over this issue was more frightening than "The Blair Witch Project". Jeff does look too old for Episode II, but maybe this is a bad picture. I'm glad he's tall and blond though, important features for Vader. Well, I guess time will tell. Let's hope the force is with him!
THE PHANTOM MENACE RAPED ME OF MY PRECIOUS, PRECIOUS VIRGINAL GE by keeper	Feb 5th, 2000 08:54:54 PM
Ha, Ha. Just kidding obviously. I'm such a clout. Harry, I really have to give it to you this time. Thanks for taking the chance and letting us fangirls and fanboys chew on this wee bit of tablescraps. And what juicy tablescraps they are. Who said this guy wasn't a looker? All I can say is this guy is AHELLOFALOT more attractive than that young fry DiCaprio. I could live with it though if was Leo in the end. After Jake Lloyd nothing scares me anymore. Go ahead, Lucas! GIVE US YOU BEST SHOT!
you got to be kidding by lovemonkey	Feb 5th, 2000 09:07:33 PM
this guy can't be the most bad ass character in the history of film. i think that he is going to be a sith or something. as for boba fett, whats up with that side of the story. Jeff can't be boba fett because he is to tall. go back and watch empire and see that fett is on the small side. i have said my peace.
it's all a game. leo will be cast. by Dilbert1	Feb 5th, 2000 09:27:28 PM
it's all a game. first off, leo doesn't want to do ep 2 if it is gonna be another titanic since it's suppose to be a love story. he doesn't want teeny bopper girls to go nuts over him again so that is the reason why he wants to read the script before he decides to take on the role. but george, afraid of the leak, will not let leo read the script. he wants leo to sign on as anakin without reading a single dialogue for fear of internet geeks getting a hold of the story. so right now it's a game between the agents. leo's agent is telling the media that leo doesn't commit to anything without reading the script first, yes, even, spider-man. and george is letting the media know that anakin will be an unknown, hence, jeff garner, or joshua jackson or the dude from seaquest. george is testing how far leo will go without reading the script. george knows leo wants the role. so right now it's all a game. i say give up george. let leo read the script and get it over with. if it leaks out, it leaks out. the fans will be the one who'll ruin the movie for themselves. leo is the perfect candidate. enough already. just sign him up to however much money he wants and move on. leo is a great actor and will become a legend in the future like deniro and pacino so stop with the games and do it already. LEO IS ANAKIN!!!
yall are narrow minded by The JesTer	Feb 5th, 2000 11:03:22 PM
first of all..we dont even know for SURE if this guy is playing Anakin...second, it's a bad picture. Also...u all suck at guessing ages. Sure he may look kinda old for the part, but he looks 25 at the MOST! Do u see any wrinkles on his forehead or from the sides of his nose to the sides of him mouth? i don't. they have make up that can do wonders so dont give me that "it's hopeless"...if they can turn Eddie Murphy into a fat@$$ and Martin Payne (or however u spell his name) into an old man...then they can SURELY turn this guy into a 19 year old. For u all who want Leo as Anakin, oh god please...sure he played a good retard but ANYONE can. Leo only plays himself...if u examine movies like i do...u'll see that even though Leo acts differently in his movies...it's still Leo's personality. This guy..we hardly know of him, so therefor I won't think "he acts just like he did in...so so.."
Well, slap me in the ass and call me Shirley by Psyberia	Feb 6th, 2000 12:15:23 AM
He kinda looks like one of the Nelson twins with a haircut. But if he IS Anakin, I say Lucasfilm better spill the beans and let us all know. If so, I will fully support this decision! No more beatin' in the bush...um, I mean beatin' around the bush.
Jeff Garner will be a Darth Maul clone -&- Leo will be Anakin by DuneHermit	Feb 6th, 2000 01:11:08 AM
Ray Park has put his stamp of approval on Jeff Garner because Lucas wanted a younger, badder Darth Maul type character for Episode II. Martial Arts skills a plus. And in order to look good in the Sith makeup he needed to have the same facial structure as Park. Jeff Garners' your man. There's no way Natalie Portman would want to press her lips against some hick farm boy from Indiana. It's in her contract. He will not be Anakin. Lucas has said Episode II will be a love story. Anakin will be played by the love story box office king Leonardo DiCaprio, not Jeff Garner.
Cold Fusion by Wheel99	Feb 6th, 2000 01:28:55 AM
Touche` Sorry Dude. On re reading my post I can see that i came off like an arsehole. I ment it as a joke. You know a joke...like my spelling. Actually I blame Harry for not providing us with spell check!!! I just get on the defensive when someone accuses me of not knowing about the franchise.
Maybe Leo AND this guy will be Annakin/Vader? by Frank Rizzo	Feb 6th, 2000 01:53:37 AM
Hmmm...maybe this guy will be the stunt person who dons Vader's robes? They WILL need someone who is 1)tall and 2)skilled at martial arts of some sort. Ray Parks fills 2 but not 1. So maybe this guy will not appear until Ep. 3...someone above said a rookie actor teamed with Lucas could make for some big problems....I agree...get someone who has "some" kind of experience for the Annakin role, and let this guy play young Vader...
I GUESS BUT.... by IWANT2CITALL	Feb 6th, 2000 02:07:26 AM
I had someone more like Ryan Philleppe in mind for the role but I have never heard the dude talk or act or anything so i guess i am a bit premature.
Something to think about... by Adanedhel	Feb 6th, 2000 02:23:43 AM
Maybe I'm smoking crack, but I see a bit of "family" resemblance to Leia/Carrie Fischer. Something in the eyes, maybe. (Wait, let me look at the picture again.) Well, then again maybe not - I don't know...
darthpsychotic: hey ellie satler, jeff garner looks like the guy by darthpsychotic	Feb 6th, 2000 02:30:50 AM
does ucf in your email address stand for University of Central Florida? i live in northeast florida and some many cool beautiful girls here either go to ucf or university of florida, soon as my slacker ass graduates from community college i plan to go to either ucf or uf for my computer programming bachelors -> BE WARNED ;) also heterosexually speaking jeff garner is quite handsome.
JESUS H CHRIST ON A BICYCLE by VOLVODRIVER	Feb 6th, 2000 03:00:21 AM
uberfuhrer lucas is fucking with us all, dont you understand. he will not cast anyone with any acting experiance, of course, he will cast me, the all knowing all seeing master of the universe. I HAVE THE POWER!
How about Brendan Fraser?!?!?! by Aerith_27	Feb 6th, 2000 03:57:16 AM
Children, you should all stop being disgusted/afraid/glad that Leo DiCaprio might be Anakin. The huge rumors started when some people said he looked like Jake Lloyd. Then recently Leo confirmed that, yes, Lucas and him have spoken about it, but he said he needs to see the script first (who can blame him, EH?). I, for one, think he's more than appropriate for the role, but I STRONGLY believe Dicaprio is just saying what he has to. I mean, everything indicates that's not something he'd go with. In interviews he goes on about how much he enjoys collaboration with directors, how the whole Titanic experience is not something he'd like to go through again, cause, let's face it, as much as most of you like to think so, that type of movie doesn't fit in with the rest of his stuff. Of course, Episode 2 would be FAR different from Titanic, but you get my point. He don't need more f***ing media attention ruining his career. Hell, during the time episode two is gonna be filmed, he'll probably be doing Scorsese's Gangs of New York all the way in Rome. So, no. And about the guy Harry's mentioning here.. I don't think so. By the way, Harry, what the hell did you mean by 'real talent?' Since you seem to be contrasting that term with Leo, maybe you mean someone like Brendan Fraser? Just wondering...
"Detective... THRILL ME." by Brundledan	Feb 6th, 2000 04:18:50 AM
Harry, after reading your endorsement of this guy on the basis of his martial arts skills, I was going to ask one question. Okay, it's great that he can kick ass, wonderful, but aren't we losing sight of the fundamental question of whether he can actually ACT?! That is, I was GOING to ask this, when it dawned on me that it wouldn't matter if Garner was the greatest actor in the world; his performance will be completely squelched by the incompetent direction of George Lucas. I mean, we're talking about the guy who managed to make LIAM NEESON uninteresting. My concern is not who's going to be cast as Anakin; it's whether Lucas will realize his own limitations and hire someone who can actually direct. If not, expect more of the same crap we got with TPM. (P.S. Scrolling through this TalkBack, I was amused to see people like HanSolo and Jesus H. Christ inciting the very arguments they claim to want nothing to do with. Thanks for staying true to form, guys.)
So the fuck what!!! by Horseflesh	Feb 6th, 2000 07:12:00 AM
SW has been my favorite since I was born.Iadmit that I thought a lot of stuff in TPM was kinda stupid, but I went and saw it a million times anyways. I don't care if they animate the corpse of Elvis to play Anikin, I'm going to see this movie and I will feel like a kid again regardless. These movies are more to me than just movies, they are a piece of my childhood. And every time I watch them it takes me back. So if he gets Leo, fine, my kids (God help me) will just have to grow up thinking he's cool. And I won't mind one damn bit because it's Star Wars, and for all the happiness it's given me I can stand a Jar-Jar here and there.
Best one so far! by Kielland	Feb 6th, 2000 12:28:24 PM
Of all the faces we've seen this is the best one so far. For the first time there is an actor that doesn't look like he has been in 'Party of Five', 'Scream' or 'Wing Commander'.
The REAL Anakin scoop by Mediator	Feb 6th, 2000 12:33:06 PM
Darth Lucas sent Darth Maul to that karate tournament because he's kicking around revitalizing the KARATE KID franchise after he gets done with Star Wars (if he doesn't do that Return to Radioland Murders in 3D/Smellivision miniseries for Lifetime). Darth Maul immeadiately contacted Darth Lucas upon learning of this boys high metachloron content (seems Dairy and Metachloron's go hand in hand). Darth Maul asked Darth Lucas what high metachloron content means anyway, Darth Lucas told him not to worry about it, it's just something he made up and if the fan boys will buy him changing his entire mythology and turning the mystical "Force" into a bad Star Trek disease episode then why shouldn't he. Darth Maul then collected DNA samples and rode his evil hover scooter back to Skywalker Ranch, so this Anakin guy could be cloned, that way Lucas doesn't have to pay him, and can pretty much easily control him, since he can't direct and wont let his actors improve and do their thing. In fact, late word is that he's gonna try and clone this guy out of durable plastics, because plastic performances worked so well from all the actors in the Phantom Muppet...err...Menace. Oh, by the way George, that box of little Jar-Jar's you've got growing in that shoe box under your bed, remember to keep them away from bright light, don't get them wet and never feed them after midnight or you-sa got-sa prob-lems in-a Marin -uh - County.
Ages in SW by Molarity	Feb 6th, 2000 04:11:35 PM
I think the whole age issue in Star Wars is not that important. We don't need exact ages, and we don't really need Anakin to look younger than Amidala, because as you know in real life, younger guys can look older/younger than older girls. When you watch the original trilogy, do you care how much older Han Solo is than Luke or Leia? We get the basic idea about their ages by how they act and their general appearances. We know Obi Wan is old, we know Han is older than luke, and we know luke and leia are nearly the same age (which we found out in ROTJ). So I don't really care who Anakin is played by. We'll still know that he'll be younger than obi-wan, and younger than amidala, just by Episode 1. As long as his hair isn't graying and he's developing a double chin, and pick will be fine.
Frank Rizzo by Omega Red	Feb 6th, 2000 04:12:06 PM
Thats a great idea. We need someone who can act well (not that I've ever seen Garner) as Anakin, but this guy has my vote for Vader!
Tobey Maguire will be Anakin by ladyl	Feb 6th, 2000 04:50:26 PM
He's in serious talks. Look what happened with CIDER HOUSE RULES. Leo passed, best friend Tobey stepped up.
Star Wars and the death of Innocence by vole	Feb 6th, 2000 05:41:56 PM
I too think this guy is too old looking. We will see. I wonder what Lucasfilm is doing right now about this? Now let me tell you about Star Wars and me. It made me want to write and get into films. The first trilogy was SO good and werll done, and the only bad part was Jedi. So I was kind of glad it ended there. But I had a rough childhood growing up gay in the Midwest and one of the main reasons I held on was that I wanted to see the next Star Wars film. Sounds silly, I know, but that is what got me through. Well, last year I finally saw it. It is an OK film, but nowhere near the quality of the originals. I too beilieve that Geroge is not the director he was. And as far as his writing goes, he is a better director. So I guess you can't go home again, you can't relive your childhood and one of my heroes has fallen. It has really depressed me. I agree that there was a great film in there somewhere, but it was a few rewrites away. Have the Nimoudians played by actual actors, get rid of Jar jar or maker him useful or interesting. And where was the wonderful rapport in the first film with the three charcters? Compare the banter of Luke, Leia and Han with the monosyllabic utterings of Ewan and Natalie. Sigh, let's just hope they don't screw up Spider-Man too. Lucas has a chance to redeem himself with Ep II, but I don't know. My childhood idol has fallen
Anakin will be played by Jesse Spencer... by daas	Feb 6th, 2000 06:36:26 PM
or so the rumors go here in Australia, where the next two will be filmes. Jesse Spencer is a very mediocre actor in a very mediocre soap called "Neighbours" which is also responsible for the very sexy Kylie Minogue, Jason Donavan, the Blakney Twins and many other horrors.
That's not Anakin... by not_a_jedi_yet	Feb 6th, 2000 08:21:21 PM
...it's the killer from 'Scream 3.'
That's not Anakin... by not_a_jedi_yet	Feb 6th, 2000 08:22:37 PM
...it's a space station!
Works for me! by iamdeadfish	Feb 6th, 2000 09:50:53 PM
I'd much wrather have some unknown then some shmuck who can't act and is just brought in because they have a "name". I was getting truly scared with all that Leo talk. Plus, if he can kick ass then it's all the better. I REALLY don't want a wussy Darth Vader!!! As for him being too old, I'm not too worried. That pic is just a B&W promo shot, I'm sure he looks younger in person. Plus the make-up people should be able to make him look even younger then that. I'm still only 25% believing this scoop though. I mean, I don't think Harry's telling a lie, I think it's still a while off and anything could happen.
he lukes like he could be mark hamils dad kinda by RipReaver	Feb 6th, 2000 10:26:57 PM
Well if its not a pile of crap not bad, that guy kinda lukes like mark hamil a little bit, not bad. as far as the jesse spencer whatever and leo and all that, those dudes are little bean poles. VADER IS A BIG GUY, and no his suit makes him bigger bullshit, thats absurd, yeah, the bottom of his boots are thick?! jesse spencer, a little wipmy looking guy, no way, anakin MUST BE A BIG GUY. if that guy in the pic up there is it and hes like 6 ft 2., then hey, cool, he does frigging look like he could be lukes dad... yes, he lukes just like him.
He Lukes just like lukes dad by RipReaver	Feb 6th, 2000 10:36:58 PM
That guy could totally pass for mark hamils dad (younger of course) No jesse spencer or leo please cause if nothing else VADER IS A BIG guy, yes sir. and no the suit makes him bigger is bullshit, thats ridiculous, we need an imposing dude. that dude looks about right, if hes 6-2 at least, cool.... i wonder if this message will actually post and not be lost in limbo when i click post, or if suddenly both my messages will appear and i look ridiculous.
JOHN TESH JR.: JEDI!!! by Bono	Feb 6th, 2000 11:48:11 PM
Of course, it could be worse.
Gotham Blues by Sngambit	Feb 7th, 2000 12:17:31 AM
Ok. I'm writing to ask for a little more information on the Gotham Blues script that was discussed in passing in your article. My reason for doing this is simple. I wrote and pitched a script for a TV series called "Gotham" it was essentially NYPD Blues set in Gotham City. So the title you talked about got my attention. Our script was a serious take on the city and the characters. It was Batman years one through seven with several movie ideas to keep the francise working on the feature film level as well as a TV level. Our script got to Akiva Goldsman's office. He loved the idea and script as did every one in his office and someone from George Clooney's office picked up a copy of the script. All of this happened accidently and the script that circulated was not even what I would have called a rough draft. It was more the framework and sketches that would set up the world we were attempting to re-create and in doing so re-create and revitalize the francise after the Rubber nightmare that evolved at Warner. Akiva took the pitch to Warner (I expect Lorenzo since the two worked together on the last two movies, and was told flat out that BATMAN was to big for TV. Just so you don't think I'm bitter about this I understood when I started this project with a couple of friends of mine that it was a long shot; a very long shot. Batman is the Ferrari of the comics world and everybody wants to drive it, so the chance of turning the francise over to a couple of unknowns was, well slim at best. Still, the title of the script you are reading being similar in nature to the one we wrote as well as the concept we were pitching seems a little close and I know that there are several copies out there. So I was wondering what "Gotham Blues" is about. Thank you for you time Steve
The abominable Gundan by 6 of 24	Feb 7th, 2000 01:10:14 AM
Hey, Jar-Jar was added digitally, I'm still hoping they'll digitally remove him from future re-issues of TPM! God knows they'd make a lot of money, the movie'd be a helluva lot better without him.
You heard it here 1st by Atreides	Feb 7th, 2000 03:36:47 AM
The role of Anakin will go to an unknown. The corruption of Anakin comes in the form of his new friend Tarkin (pawn of the emperor)played by Leonardo DiCaprio.
ITS A YOUNG JEFF DANIELS!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Fernwick	Feb 7th, 2000 03:55:57 AM
Who would have thought that Lucas would have gone from Dumb to Dumber :)
Not by snake301	Feb 7th, 2000 06:06:07 AM
So these are the eyes that are torn apart between good and evil, The eyes that watch his wife get slain for protecting her people,the eyes that are mixed with confusion about his father the emp. palapatine and why his father slays his wife. The eyes that take out his grandfather sithe and is led to believe by his father that the jedis took his wife. The strong evil eyes that send yoda and Obi hiding in fear. I dont think so. Sorry Jeff, we need the eyes and facial expressions for the emotional roller coaster Anakin will go through.
by eval	Feb 7th, 2000 07:26:01 AM
What's with this Anakin shit? God Damn its not even confirmed and your dissing Lucas already! I mean Lucas brang you Star Wars and Indiana Jones and a whole heap of good shit and he puts one annoying character such as Binks and everyone hangs shit on him. Lucas will cast whoever he wants and won't give a shit what people say!! So no matter how much you go on and on, on how much you DON'T WANT or WANT Leo he 'aint gonna hear it so what does it matter? I mean this guy does seems a little too old and not very "evil" but who knows what Lucas will turn him into. Also what's this shit you guys are hanging on Ray Park? What the fuck did he do. He is just starting his movie career give the guy a break! Geez so he said a few things, he knows this Jeff guy so what? Means shit! Oh and getting an experienced guy who can actually fight is much more realistic then teaching some "joe" off the street. I mean it will cut down practising time and looks better on screen and they know what they are doing, and if they get a little bruise here and there they are used to it...but if they teach someone who is inexperienced and has never done anything "physical" and gets a scratch on him well god knows what will happen...Armageddon maybe? One last thing judging someone on one fuckin' photo is well a very, very stupid thing to do.
Get your collective heads out of your collective asses by Major Boothroyd	Feb 7th, 2000 07:48:07 AM
Doesn't look mean enough they whine, looks to young they whine. They whine, They whine, THEY WHINE. Is it just me or is anyone else sick of the whining Star Wars fanboy. One damn photo and they're at it. He's too old, use your fucking imagination, He's not mean, Use Your Fucking Imagination. Hated Episode One to I'll bet, parhaps you should have tried and used you FUCKING IMAGINATION. Cut Lucas some slack, he knows more about making movies than you ever will.
I don't think so ... by Belle_du_jour	Feb 7th, 2000 08:32:12 AM
Look, this guy is definitely not Anakin... first, cause in the ad for the role, it said the guy must resemble Jake Lloyd... second, look at Lucas Films reply (on theforce.net) to a guy who tried for the part ... "Lucas is searching for someone with boyish looks, wide eyed, thick lips" .. Look at him! I agree with the Sith theory thing for Jeff, and that Leo will be playing another part, not Anakin... and who's Anakin? Tobey Maguire, I wish.
more unknowns should get work like this by vanillalady	Feb 7th, 2000 08:52:48 AM
Believe it or not, all of your favorite actors at one time were COMPLETE unknowns who were given the shot of a lifetime that made their careers. I think it would be fantastic for this midwestern guy to get this role...frankly, I've had enough of big time names with no talent in films. All bets are off if this story turns out to be bogus, but in the meantime, let's give Jeff Garner some credit.
more kung fu in star wars! by king of all	Feb 7th, 2000 09:15:59 AM
that's what the franchise needs. the best scene in e1 was the kung fu jedi showdown. am i right or am i right?
acting??? by cuddles	Feb 7th, 2000 10:38:45 AM
One of the main gripes about Episode 1 was the lack of character development. If Episode 2 is supposed to make up for this than they need to find someone who can really ACT. I'd rather see a talented charasmatic actor in the part who can make the character compelling than see a mediocre actor who's just really good at martial arts. Being a good athlete isn't going to cut it. I hope this guy is multi-talented.
Free advice to the whiners by moviet00l	Feb 7th, 2000 10:50:42 AM
Brother, who would have thought the Star Wars community was full of so many whiners. Did I miss something? We are just talking about movies, right? Is someone's life going to end if Anakin doesn't look exactly like Jake Lloyd? Will our intestines melt into a sticky goo if Jar-Jar makes it back into another movie? Will the very fabric of the universe crumble in on itself if Anakin looks slightly older than 21? And please stop with the "Lucas has destoyed the myth/ legend/continuity/yaddah yaddah." It's his damn movie, his damn mythos and he should be able to do whatever the hell he wants to. Clearly (and I'm just talking to the whiners here) you guys aren't going to enjoy these movies NO MATTER WHAT LUCAS DOES. Save yourself some grief - when Episode Two comes out, stay home in protest so I can get a damn place in line.
Let me get this straight... by Sith Lord Byron	Feb 7th, 2000 11:02:35 AM
...you guys want someone with acting experience but who is not a megastar, someone who looks like a nice guy but could easily kick your ass, someone with a martial arts background...sounds to me like the only possible candidate for Anakin is...SAMMO HUNG! Yes, Sammo Hung is DEFINITELY my choice for He Who Would Be Vader. Let's send our e-mails to Lucas and make it happen folks!
Oh, and one more thing... by Sith Lord Byron	Feb 7th, 2000 11:03:17 AM
...anybody who thinks my above post was serious should be fired.
Leo Will Be In the film but not as the star. by hagamaba	Feb 7th, 2000 12:12:13 PM
First off Star wars needs a new drawing name hence Leo. Secound off they need to have better acting from Ewan. Third Obi-Wan should have a beard in this episode. Fourth an known should play Anikin the folowing is my list: Devon Sawa Seth Green Toby McGuire I also think if they introduce more Jedi's this is my list of potentials: Edge (from WWF but he whould have to cut his hair, but big stunt possibitys) Jackie Chan Steven Seagal (killed in first 5 min) Ray Park (with out darth maul make up) Sabu (from ecw, you need some one stupider then Park to do insane stunts) Chris Tucker (anyone whould be better then Jar Jar)
Nordling by Gmoney1	Feb 7th, 2000 12:19:57 PM
I think you are the only one posting who has picked Jon Jackson as their favorite for Anakin. I really do think this guy could pull off the role and I can just see the chemistry between him and Natalie. I read this report on the Episode-X website from casting director Robin Gurland on what Lucas is looking for in Anakin (boyish looks, wide-eyed, thick-lips, etc.) Could those descriptions match Jon Jackson any more? Remember Jonathan leaked out that he's meeting with Lucas sometime in early February. It might explain why he's holding off on any definite projects until he finds out the final word (e.g. returning to GH).
Ron Jeremy Rumor by pharcyde	Feb 7th, 2000 12:38:46 PM
I read in Weekly World News that Ron Jeremy is in serious talks with George Lucas to play Anakin. This is good because I think Ron Jeremy is a really good actor.
AAAARRRGGGHHHHHHHH! by haunted	Feb 7th, 2000 01:22:14 PM
Couldn't they find someone uglier?
Jeff Garner on IMDB by ZTR421	Feb 7th, 2000 01:29:19 PM
Does anyone have any idea if the Jeff Garner on the IMDB is the same guy? He's only been in one movie - Powderburn (1995), and there is no age or birthplace info.... but if you've seen the movie, and recognize him, it would indicate that he has done at least one thing outside of local Indiana theater....
I live in Indy by Rolande	Feb 7th, 2000 01:50:06 PM
I live in Broad Ripple, right in the heart of Indy. I hope they don't ruin a Hoosier's acting chops by putting him in a flick with Jar Jar Binks. Ha, that's funny on a couple levels.
THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!HARRY IS JUST TREATING YOU GUYS LIKE DOGSHIT. by MICKEY ROURKE	Feb 7th, 2000 02:18:03 PM
OK..HERE'S THE TRUTH..NO BULLSHIT..IM JUST GIVING THE FACTS,NO HEARSAY,NO RUMOURS,JUST REAL STUFF.Having worked(o.k i was just a script boy/runner) on the 'The Phantom Menace' at Leavesden studio in Hertfordshire,and still retaining some of my contacts with the guys preparing 'part two', let me tell you this jeff garner is being considered for the film, but not as Annakin, RATHER AS ONE OF HIS BUDDIES WHO DOSEN'T REALLY PLAY A SIGNIFICANT PART.YES,Leo is being considered(well, actually,the role is his if he wants it),but absolutely not for Annakin...whether LEO ends up in the film or how significant his role is something i'm afraid i've heard no concrete stuff on yet but his role is that of a fellow love rival for the hand of princess ameida(shit, wrong spelling i think).SO HERES THE FACTS.ANAKIN IS BEING PLAYED BY JOSH HARTNETT OF H2O AND THE FACULTY FAME..THIS IS 100% REAL...HE'S HAD THE ROLE FOR A WHILE NOW, IF YOU DON'T BELEIVE ME, GET THE FATMAN TO ASK AROUND JOSH'S PEOPLE,AND THAN HE'LL KNOW FOR SURE.The other major thing i've heard is that MIKE TYSON HAS BEEN CONSIDERED,BUT POSSIBLY DROPPED BECAUSE OF HIS RATHER DARK PAST,BUT FROM WHAT I KNOW,THIS IS A 60-40 THING IN MIKES FAVOUR..WATCH OUT FOR THE MIKE TYSON-STAR WARS THING...AGAIN IF THE FAT MAN CHECKS UP,HE MAY STRIKE LUCKY...PLEASE...THIS IS REAL,..FRANKLY I DON'T CARE IF YOU DON'T BELEIVE..I JUST WANTED TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT BECAUSE IM PISSED OFF AT THE USUAL BULLSHIT ALLOWED ON THIS SITE.BY THE WAY I THINK MIKE TYSON WAS CONSIDERED FOR A 'KIND OF DARTH MAUL' ROLE,a non-speaking part,just looking real mean..Anyway, you will find out all this soon enough.At least remember where ya heard it first.
See the real Anakin here... by Kevi-Wan	Feb 7th, 2000 02:42:45 PM
www.theforce.net/theater/sw2tr ailers There is only one actor who is destined to play this part, and his name is Leo.
So, Leo as Organa? by dennis	Feb 7th, 2000 03:52:15 PM
This one's also been around for awhile. Too bad, I was kind of hoping that Obi-Wan would be Anakin's rival for Amdiala's affections. Too bad. I guess Obi-Wan just never gets any for the entire saga...
"True 'Star Wars' Fans" by Brundledan	Feb 7th, 2000 04:29:20 PM
Ahh, all is good and right with the world. Why? Because there's exactly the right amount of hatefulness and spite here - as is normal for a "Star Wars" TalkBack. And, as usual, almost all of it is coming from TPM fans. Very telling. As is their wayyy-overboard defensiveness. Thank you all for not disappointing me.
to Hagamaba....... by The JesTer	Feb 7th, 2000 04:33:55 PM
Steven Seagal as a Jedi? oh c'mon...i agree w/you when u say Jackie Chan should be a Jedi (i'm Jackie's number one fan) but he shouldn't die in the first 5 minutes. You haven't seen Jackie's full potential. If you've seen Drunken Master 2, then you have. IF Jackie Chan should EVER get into a Star Wars film (which is VERY unlikely), he should have at LEAST 50 minutes screen time, if not...MORE!
Star Wars II : The Unification of the Jedi by RipReaver	Feb 7th, 2000 04:51:22 PM
Buster Douglas is playing a jedi, Shannon Briggs will be the next anakin, Evander Holyfield will be a jedi master and the emperor is actually Don King with his sith apprentice Lennox Lewis...this is absolutely no bullshit, Im tired of all this speculation, its time to set everyone straight
No sh*t Brundelan... by dennis	Feb 7th, 2000 04:57:38 PM
I no longer consider myself a "Star Wars" fan, as I could not justify to the REAL Star Wars "fans" my dissapointment with The Phantom Menace. So it is with great pride that I now call myself a MOVIE FAN. I just like good movies.
Look for Nathan Hamill to play Anakin by Alastair	Feb 7th, 2000 04:58:37 PM
Look for Nathan Hamill to play Anakin. He's the right age, he obviously looks like Luke/Mark, and I believe he's tall enough.
He sure is cute.... by Bregalad_	Feb 7th, 2000 05:02:08 PM
.... but I hope he really has some acting chops! I still break into a cold sweat everytime I think of Jake Lloyd's performance. Wishing Jeff Garner the best of luck in what will surely be the journey of a lifetime. Oh, and hey Jeff, if you read this.... Don't let the knee-jerk reactions of these fanboys bring you down. AND DON'T LET LUCAS COMPLETELY RE-DUB YOUR VOICE LIKE THEY DID TO POOR RAY PARK. :-)
you know who would have been cool... by RipReaver	Feb 7th, 2000 05:11:05 PM
River Phoenix would have been perfect,tell me that dude didnt look like an older lloyd what a shame, a little old by now yeah, but a 20-25 yr old phoenix would have been good. he would still have been pretty young looking though i imagine.
give the whole script away snake by dartbite	Feb 7th, 2000 06:09:54 PM
Its not kung fu, its the physical ability lucas wants. Maul was great even if parks is an idiot, Thats why lucas had his face covered. Nothing wrong with non experienced actors either. Lucas has had many in the series that worked out well. And by the way Snake, I read those script samples for episode 2 on lukasfilms homepage. They were only on for one day. Must have been a leak. You didnt need to tell everyone.
Ouch! My penis just got caught in a cuisinart! by Sith Lord Byron	Feb 7th, 2000 06:35:03 PM
Ha, ha, ha. Just kidding (the things you gotta do to get read this far down). I think they should cast Brad Renfro as Anakin. Looks the part, has a troubled past, can't believe no one has mentioned this yet. Either him or...SAMMO HUNG!!!
Mike Tyson? by 6 of 24	Feb 7th, 2000 07:38:59 PM
I almost believe that Mike Tyson could get a part in EpII, if Lucas put Jar-Jar in TPM there's no limit to what he'll put on-screen. And BTW not all the "fan boys" hated TPM, I liked it very much in spite of its flaws. I just thought that Jar-Jar reduced it from a four-star movie to a three-star one all by his virtual self.
FUCK THIS!!! IM SICK OF MAYBE'S!!! by prajadhipok	Feb 7th, 2000 07:57:54 PM
Maybe he is, Maybe he is not... WHO GIVES A FUCK?? POST NEWS NOT "MAYBES" IF YOURE SURE ITS HIM THEN POST IT
READ UP Y'ALL by Lucas_fan	Feb 7th, 2000 10:06:27 PM
Okay, okay, okay! I too am tired of the Anakin games, but, guess what? -- it's NOT MY FRIGGIN' MOVIE!!! In case you have forgotten, that little logo on everything that is "Star Wars" says "LUCAS" film, not "All of the disgruntled, angry web-nerds" film. Lucas has the right to make Episode II how he wants, when he wants and with whom he wants. As much as I would like to see Joel Schumacher strung up from a "rainbow colored" flag pole, I understood that he too had the right to cast Schwarzenneger and all the other inappropriate actors for "Batman and Robin." I know that it is hard to watch these decisions go wrong when these films and the characters mean so much to us. But come on, let's have a little faith in "King George." He has made one hell of a franchise and I think Episode I was an INEVITABLY bland first act in a 6 act story. Have faith, my friends. Let us hold judgement until John William's music blasts through the theatre speakers and the "Written and Directed by George Lucas" title comes up on the screen. We Star Wars fans must be cautious. Look what the drooling, insane fans of Star Trek did to its franchise (well, with a little help from Rick Berman). Can't we collect our toys and watch our movies without going to such PUBLIC extremes? The main issue is that George Lucas IS Star Wars--not the fans, not the actors, not the rejected DVD format. The movies are made and we see them and decide wether we like them or not. That's the only part we have in it. If you don't like the cast, then don't GO THE HELL TO SEE THE MOVIE!! Take it for what it is and get over the fact that it will not be the made up story you have written, cast and played over and over in your minds for that past 17 years. As for the DVD issue, I understand. Look, I want Coppola to get off his duff and put out the Godfather trilogy on DVD, but I don't see a petition on every DVD website for that one. How about Spielberg releasing "The Goonies?" Lucas has said that he sees the Star Wars saga as a work in progress and that DVD is out of the question until he has the time to work on it. If he put it out now and later changed and re-issued it, the same people would be bitching about having to buy it again! I cannot state it enough--THEY ARE HIS MOVIES! So, read the rumors, speculate and for Yoda's sake, HAVE FUN!! If all that it does is frustrate you, then pick another hobby. Fun is what Star Wars is really about... well, fun and George Lucas.
You got it all wrong......Keith Manders will be Anakin by darthobi-wan	Feb 7th, 2000 10:22:14 PM
James Garner must be a fabrication developed by Lucas/Parks as a distraction. It is a total half truth. THe real Anakin is traveling from the Midwest but you need to look a little more north. Anakin casting will be a Cinderella story from the heart land and his name is a 22 yr old unknown named Keith Manders. He has worked in some in state indy films and some community stage work. He is represented by a small agency RLC Theatrical out of Minneapolis. They worked a buckshot campaign that started after Keith met Ms. Gurland in a Minneapolis suburb coffee shop and she was drawn to him as Anakin. She loved him and then George loved him. She was visiting some movies crommies that were part of the production staff for a a big studio film "Heaven and Earth" yet to be realeased.
Anakin. Its down to two!!! by darthnatureboy	Feb 7th, 2000 10:46:14 PM
Robin Gurland, Casting Director for Episode II released information about the casting for Anakin in the February edition of Film Journal that the casting has been narrowed down to two. One is Jeff Garner, a stock broker from Indiana who has already been reported. The other is a martial arts instructor from Middle TN named Dave Knapp. The 24 year old martial arts expert and college student has an acting background as an extra in Mortal Kombat and Leathal Weapon IV. Dave and his bride to be Rachel were unavailable for comments.
Your mother's playing Anakin by TakeTheHit	Feb 7th, 2000 10:49:55 PM
...and she's kicking ass, too. I'd clean up my room if I were you. If it ain't your moms, let's hope it's someone with a thick skin who can take all the second-guessing that's bound to erupt. I kinda like the idea of Leo playing Organa, since it explains why the scenes shot with Adrian Dunbar playing Organa were cut. Who said this whole damn thing was etched in stone thirty years ago? Whoever believes that hasn't got an artistic bone in their body. You're always making changes until you can live with it (Special Editions, anyone?).
Isn't it obvious that the only thing that matters is what the ac by Niiiice	Feb 8th, 2000 04:22:30 AM
No matter who gets to be Anakin, his acting ability shouldn't have anything to do with it. Remember, we're talking about George Lucas, who admitted he's not the "actor's director." He tells them what to do, and they do it. Did anyone catch Liam Neeson's interview in last May's Premiere? Here's something to the effect of what he said: "If I say, 'George, it would be really great if I could walk over to the window like this' and George would say 'No, you've got to sit in this chair because a space creature will fly out of the window and land on it'..." Something very similiar to that. That means VERY LITTLE creativity involved on the actors' part. Neeson considered being able to touch Shmi Skywalker on the arm a "major victory". Lucas is too focused on how the real and imaginary aspects of his film interact than how the characters are developed. So, since he already knows what he wants Anakin to act like, all he needs is to figure out what he looks like.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! by binno	Feb 8th, 2000 06:07:15 AM
ITS JUST A FUCKIN' MOVIE FOLKS!!!!!! MAN WHAT'S WITH YOU PEOPLE. I'M TELLING YOU IF YOU SAW THE FIRST PHOTO OF RAY PARK RELEASED ON THE NET (WELL THE FIRST ONE I CAME ACROSS) YOU HAVE HAVE THOUGH "HOLY SHIT THIS GUY IS GOING TO BE A SITH LORD???" I KNOW THAT YOU FAN BOYS WOULD SAY THAT. I'M IMAGINING YOU FAN BOYS LOOK LIKE THE FAT GUY ON THE SIMPSONS THAT RUNS THE COMIC STORE? AM I RIGHT? ANYWAYS I DON'T THINK LUCAS WILL GO FOR THIS GUY HE IS TOO OLD AND LUCAS SEEMS LIKE HE NEEDS A MORE OF A PRETTY BOY. YOU STAR WARS GEEKS OUT THERE GET OVER THAT MYTH SHIT, SURE STAR WARS IS FULL OF MYTH BUT ITS NOT A REAL PLACE, THAT GALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY DOESN'T EXSIST....CAUSE IF IT DID VADER WOULD BE LIVING IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!! THE PHANTOM MENACE COULD HAVE NEVER LIVED UP TO YOUR DIE HARD FANS EXPECTATIONS...NO MOVIE WOULD HAVE!! SO STOP YOUR SOOKING. ONE MORE THING....GET OVER JAR JAR BINKS YOU ARE LIKE 5 YEAR OLDS COMPLAINING OVER LOST CANDY...GGEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZ Z!!!!! PS I KNOW GEORGE YOU AREN'T READING THIS BUT CALL YOUR FRIEND STEVEN (SPIELBERG THAT IS) AND ASK FOR SOME DIRECTING ADVICE.........PLEASE!! C'MON DO IT SO YOUR SO-CALLED LOYAL FANS AND CRITICS CAN ALL SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!
And there was peace... please... peace! by Moreno	Feb 8th, 2000 06:39:53 AM
Honestly, all this shouting and screaming over a film, which Im sorry to say is NOT going to be anything people make it up to be... The simple fact that Episode was shit (dont argue, cause you know its true) has already made the entire saga look like a money draining project... admit it! Lucas wants your money! hes willing to add crap characters, take money away from scrip writing and put it into generating a silly comp. generated "thing"... its pathetic! ... the point is... yes, starwars is good. but its not "THE BEST SAGA EVER MADE!"... you people who believe this... what will it take for you to opne your eyes? Anakin in a rubber suit?? ... so let there be peace.
At least its not that prick from Neighbours by Dodgy Ken	Feb 8th, 2000 10:22:27 AM

This series needs cheesy unknowns! by Frank Enstein	Feb 8th, 2000 12:18:57 PM
On of the problems with Episode 1 was that the actors were overqualified for Lucas' script. (At the time) Mark Hammel, Harrison Ford, and Carrie Fisher were perfectly cast B-level, cornball actors. Having too many serious thespians (MacGregor was enough - Neeson and MacGregor created bad chemistry) too heavily weighted down the spirit of fun contained in the original trilogy.(That and the fact that Neeson had no imagination as an actor.)
Oh my God, It's the bloke from STEPS... by Smurflord	Feb 8th, 2000 12:20:34 PM

You're right, who cares...Father Geek responded to my question by dennis	Feb 8th, 2000 01:01:50 PM
It's just fun to speculate. My world's not ending if Garner gets cast. I got an email from Father Geek, and he said that Park told them Garner is the man. I'm waiting until an official announcement, cause my gut tells me sith apprentice is more likely than Anakin Skywalker for the aged Mr. Garner. Sszero -- right on!!! Just cast Leo and be done with it. I think Leo and Ewan hamming it up with each other will be unbeatable. They're both fine actors.
The reason Jar Jar didn't work is because pixels can't act! by dennis	Feb 8th, 2000 01:32:14 PM
They have JJ too much screen time. Period. Watto worked. I find very few people who found him unwatchable. It's because they made him a caricature and limited his screen time. Jar Jar was a supporting character -- he was in 95% of the film. Oscar-caliber actors had to stare at a piece of rubber strapped to Ahmed Best's head, and we're supposed to wonder why their performances were lackluster? Any actor knows that when you're playing a scene, you need something to bounce off of, you need your partners reactions, emotions there to make the scene real. Lucas obviously doesn't get that. Terrence Stamp said himself that he was looking forward to working with Natalie Portman, and he reported to set for the Senate scene, and Lucas had let Portman go for the day, and asked Stamp if he wouldn't mind talking to a wooden post propped up in her place. This is not conducive to good acting. Now, I know SW isn't known for its acting, but don't get REAL actors (Stamp, Neeson, McGreggor, Portman, August and McDairmid) and expect the audience to not be dissapointed when they don't get the chance to act.
Leo by 6 of 24	Feb 8th, 2000 02:08:54 PM
Who said Leo was 6' tall? He's like 5'6", and used to standing on boxes while he works; which is one of the many reasons so many of us have been objecting to him. Yeah, a little dweeb like him and a short girl like Natalie Portman would indeed produce offspring as little as Carrie Fisher and Mark Hammill, but I'd still rather see a big guy close to the size of Dave Prowse. I'm sick of pretty girly-boys.
James Earl Jones by not_a_jedi_yet	Feb 8th, 2000 03:50:19 PM
I saw J.E.J. on TV the other day. He's getting old. What'll they do if he croaks before Episode 3 is made? I can't wait to read all the Talkbacks on the casting of Vader's voice if that were to happen.
Anyone other than Rick Schroder (sp?) will be a huge mistake by Darth Delicious	Feb 8th, 2000 04:43:35 PM
I've recently resumed watching NYPD Blue and I'm now thoroughly convinced that Rick(y) Schroeder would be absolutely perfect for the role of Annakin. I know that this rumor has been shot down numerous times, but I refuse to let it go. Like Dostoyevski's carriage driver I will beat this horse long after it is dead. Then when this farmboy loser is unable to carry the role properly in ep2 I will proclaim my genius. My posts are so tasty.
Compared to this bum, I'd SERIOUSLY rather see Leonardo DiCaprio by sexualchocolate1	Feb 8th, 2000 05:38:43 PM
Alright, I can already asume that when you read the heading to my post, you probably started cussing my opinion out without even hearing me out. Yep, that's how well I know you sorry ass movie geeks. Now here's my reason. I definitly Leo should take on the role only because the guy finally looks like he finished puberty. The guy's a lil bit more buff, got facial hair and everything. Now I agree, a year ago if I heard some one else say what I just said about Leo playing Anakin, I would have been with you freaks and started cussing the bum out too. But hey, times change...
He's too old looking by kristie73	Feb 8th, 2000 06:04:07 PM
NO WAY! This can't be. He's too old. That will look so weird with Natalie Portman. She is so young looking. We need a teenager or a 20, 21 year old to play Anakin. I will be very disappointed if it's this guy.
HERE WE GO AGAIN. by THE BIG LEBOWSKI	Feb 8th, 2000 06:32:00 PM
Here we go again, off on another wild round of speculation about who's gonna get to screw Natalie (I'm a pseudo intellectual who thinks going to Harvard makes me smart) Portman, come on this bitch said Nobokav's Lolita was sleazy, which means she can't spot true beauty and poetry when she sees it. Impeach the queen and bring on Anna Paquin, a true beauty with a keen mind. I have voiced concerns in the past and I'm tired of worrying about it. What we need to worry about is the movie not getting drowned in CGI and goofy FX. Not that we don't need to try and find a good Anakin (speaking of which I fit all the physical descriptions except my hair is brown, damn! hard luck; guess I'll have to wait until they start looking for the next Indiana Jones) Ha Ha. Back to the film. I suppose this dude looks OK, hard to judge by just one picture, but a pat on the back to Harry for keeping us entertained througout the long cold winter, posting on talk backs every night is a great way to keep your spirits up when your stuck inside 90% of the time. Also I think it would be a big mistake for Lucas to try and bring back characters like Han Solo and/or things such as the Millenium Falcon that would just be trying a wee bit to hard in my opinion, even if they were just brief glimpses. And finally lets all give our support for the #1 choice for Anakin..... Ron Jeremy the true "King Of The World".
Woody Allen: Jedi Knight by THE BIG LEBOWSKI	Feb 8th, 2000 06:47:15 PM
How about it. About Anakin though; I don't care who plays him as long as it's not a Canadien. I can't stands 'em. They don't even know what ham is, "Oh we call that bacon here, A". Seriously though, what do you people bet that if Lucas could get his way, he'd make a CGI Anakin so he wouldn't have to waste his energy directing him (not that he bothers to do much of that anyway) and so he could drag Star Wars even further down into the pit of hell. Or maybe Bill Murray and Dan Akroyd as a pair of bumbling henchmen in Sidious' employ light comedy, oh joy!!! and they could all speak vis Germannnn accccents to make it extra campy. I should stop watching Dr. Strangelove so much, it's starting to warp my mind.
Gorgar and the heighth thang by Red_2	Feb 8th, 2000 08:06:34 PM
Gorgar, you are correct Vader was mostly bionic/robot whatever, but that does not change the fact that in ROTJ that in the ghost scene with Annikin (notice I did not say Vader), Obi-Wan and Yoda that Annikin was clearly taller than Obi-Wan. Think about it dude, Hamill's about 5'6". Obi was about 5-6 inches taller so therefore Annikin should be 6 foot plus.....watch ROTJ again for yourself. Heighth IS an issue here. I don't give a rats ass who they pick, but the guy should be about 6 foot or at least should be taller than most in the movie. If they can pull it off with camera angles 'n such with Leo - cool, fine I'm sure he'd do a good job. That's my 2 Red cents worth. Red 2 out.
GARGOYLES?!!!!!! by Robin_Wynn	Feb 8th, 2000 10:33:59 PM
UMm....did I hear right? What's this about a Gargoyle movie? This wouldn't happen to be based on a certain animated tv series now would it?! PLEASE I have to know!! Can you give a little more info on the movie: THE FINAL APOCRYPHA: THE RETURN OF THE GARGOYLES --Robin Wynn hautz10@hotmail.com
Gargoyles Movie!? by Kelra	Feb 8th, 2000 11:13:09 PM
Allright, being a HUGE Gargoyles fan, I HAVE to know more about this!!! Please post ANYTHING you know about a Gargoyles movie, ESPECIALLY if it is based off of Disney's animated series. Kelra
Gargoyles?!?! by Sgt Goliath	Feb 9th, 2000 12:09:29 PM

Gargoyles?!?! by Sgt Goliath	Feb 9th, 2000 12:10:58 PM
Is this the Gargoyles most of us know as in, 'Disney's animated television series?!' We (the fans of the show) have been waiting for this for 4 years. Or, is this that 70's movie sequel? Say it's Disney, I beg you.
A possible casting rumor... by Collinsbrook	Feb 9th, 2000 09:57:14 PM
I am a midwestern theatre director, and I recently auditioned a young lady named Heather for my upcoming project. She was from Nebraska and I asked her what brought her to Chicago. She told me about a friend from Iowa who was living here that encouraged her to come and seek an acting career. I only mention this because in discussing her friend she mentioned something about him being looked at for some role in the next Star Wars film(s). I don't believe it was the main role, however, because he doesn't have blue eyes and blonde hair. She said something about an emphasis on ethnic casting of unknown actors. Apparently this guy fits the bill. Just thought I'd share that. I'll pass along more info if I come upon it. -B. Collins
www.tman.com by tman_5	Feb 18th, 2000 03:25:02 PM
TMAN.com supports Jeff in this roll.
anakin by Todder	Mar 15th, 2000 12:13:43 PM
Who should play Anakin? How about Chris Klein,(Oz from American Pie), or the guy from American Beauty, the weird camera toting kid? Just a thought, Devin Sawa gets my vote, he could make his lightsaber to double as a bowl and get high during the battle scenes.
knowing mr garner in the '80s... by couldbeanyahs90	Mar 28th, 2000 08:34:43 AM
this is truly one of those rare karmic twists. this is all about giving you gossip-freaky star wars heads something to titter over. this is not completely out of malice, this is just about being human. more power to jeff...this could give us all something to applaud at our 10 year reunion due to hit this summer. good luck, bitch. yeah, see, an old high school buddy forwarded me this link, cause we went to anderson high school, about 30 minutes north on indy, WITH jeff garner (about 1987 thru 1990, check it out, man, don't think he officially graduted with us, but he went there) anyway, he was an ASS in school (who wasn't, right?) if i get specific, someone will figure me out, so i won't. i'm not actually out to wound jeff, i just think this is hysterical. he was famous for crying at the drop of a hat, not in a sensative-sweet way, in a lame, pansy-ass way. he once ran over my friends mail box cause she wouldn't let him in to a party. he wiped out the neighbors box too, had to replace them. when jeff went to tell one of the old guys he was done, the guy ripped the box up out of the ground and made jeff re-do it. he was also big on claiming to have bedded many girls that would not have a thing to do with him, thats a guy thing, huh? anyway, he's at least 27 now, proably pushing 28 this year. he always seemed like such a dick. maybe it was just his repressed creativity.
sw by edg	Mar 28th, 2000 10:37:58 AM
does anyone give a rats ass about what the above schmuch did ten years ago? how does the above posting add value to our knowledge? so garner was an asshole in highschool. who cares. show me one person who doesn't regret at least some aspect of their past and i will show you a liar. frankly, i think garner is handsome as hell, and i hope he does get it just to shut the idiots up.
stupid stupid stupid by busta	Mar 28th, 2000 02:48:05 PM
who cares what you or anyone else did in highschool. if you went to school with this cat, that puts you at 27 or 28, so grow up and act like an adult and stop crying like a gossipy bitch. no one gives two shits about your opinion or your lame highschool experiences with jeff garner or any other famous individual. why do you use anonymous name and email? are you afraid that mr garner may find you? at least you can email most of the folks who posted a talkback. you're like every other punk azz bitch. you seem someone you once knew do something cool or great and you try to jump on the "i knew him, when he was young bandwagon." who fucking cares about you and your lame ass mailbox story.
I went through Highschool With Darth Vadar?? by ROIDHORMEL	Mar 29th, 2000 01:00:01 PM
Hey, I went to Anderson High School with Jeff Garner. Anderson, IN... I think he went to Lapel our senior year... Holy Crap! I can't believe it. He'll get it too, knowing Lucas. I can't imagine anything in his background to mess up his chances. Man, this would be great. Although as a huge Star Wars fan, having Jeff in the movie would ruin the experience for me. The whole film, I'd be thinking, damn I can't believe that Jeff Garner is making sweet love to Natalie Portman. Jesus.!! I am so jealous,,,,,, All I can say is holy crap and good for him. My good freind from Anderson, who was better friends with Jeff than I called Jeff the other day to check out the real story. Nothing more to say on that account... I wouldn't want to jinks his chances, whatever they are..
I also know Mr. Garner by cutter_mb	Mar 30th, 2000 07:55:00 PM
I also went to high school with Jeff and still stay in touch with him today. He was all right in high school. How many people were not complete idiots at the age of 16? He was just trying to figure out who he was. As far as "couldbeanyahs90" - I'd like to see if you are the same person today as you were in 1989. I guess I'll find out at the reunion.
new rumor by 867-5309	Apr 6th, 2000 11:45:08 PM
Here's the newest scoop people. I guess, George Lucas has developed a bad sense of humor(see Jar Jar Binks). Anyways, the latest is, the blonde kid from the Backstreet Boys is going to play Anakin Skywalker. What's more, Episode II is going to be a musical, with brief Grease-like interludes. Can we say "Oaklahoma"? By doing this, not only do the teeny-bopper girls get interested in all things Star Wars, but Broadway lovers will now have an excuse to go to the movies! Britney Spears will also be in the movie, as a local Mos Eisley hooker. One of the songs currently being worked on by the Backstreet Boys for the movie soundtrack is "Papa needs a new Lightsabre" Okay, so, what am I saying here? What I'm saying is this---Lighten the Fuck up! It's only a movie...or as William Shatner put it best on Saturday Night Live "Get a Life!" If you feel so strongly about Lucas' casting decisions, then don't go see the fuckin' movie. At least then I won't have to endure numerous news reports about assholes like yourselves standing in line for 3 fuckin' years just to see the goddam flick. Wearing Jedi robes with cinnamon buns strapped to the sides of your fuckin heads. Oh and by the way...May the Force be with all of you.
Obi-Wan Kenobi is Chinese by LookAtMe!	Oct 21st, 2000 05:23:15 AM
Alright first off, I will have to tell you of an experience I had when I watched Star Wars with a Japanese person. Now we all know George Lucas was inspired by the Kurosawa films and all but this is exactly what gets so many Japanese people so excited about Star Wars. Just because George Lucas like the Japanese culture and used the term "Jedi" based on the Japanese term "Jedai-Geki" for the term of elite samurai or Japanese warrior and because the "Jedai-Geki" followed the Bushido code which is similar to the Jedi code, they (Japanese people) believe Star Wars is something that completely originated from the Japanese culture. First off, when I watched The Phantom Menace with my Japanese buddy (Mr. Namba) I simply commented that Obi-Wan is a badass. All I said was, "Damn, he's a bad-ass, going in a fight as a Padawan against a Sith and not caring about getting killed." Mr. Namba immediately said, "You think he's a bad-ass huh? You like his pony-tail?" I said, "Yeah that too, but I just like how he just goes into every situation with determination. Remember how he said to Captain Panaka 'I'll deal with that.' Damn, that just showed how he was a badass." Mr. Namba continued, "Yeah but you like his pony tail eh? You know, that's Japanese." ALRIGHT RIGHT THERE AND THEN I SHUT THE DAMN VCR OFF AND I LOOKED AT MY BUDDY IN HIS FACE AND JUST LOOKED AT HIM LIKE HE WAS BEING A JACKASS. There I was trying to enjoy my movie and this guy tries to imprint the image of Japanese culture on Obi-Wan Kenobi, who may perhaps be the best representation for everything that Star Wars stood for. I was furious cos all I knew was that I was watching my movie, and all of a sudden, this egocentrical person steps in to talk about his culture like it was the best. ALRIGHT FIRST OF ALL, EVERYTHING THAT THE JAPANESE CULTURE HAS DEVELOPED HAD ITS INITIAL TIES TO CHINA. WHERE DO U THINK THEY GOT THEIR LANGUAGE LITERATURE, ART, CLOTHES, EVERYTHING EXCEPT THEIR TASTE FOR RAW FOOD. SECOND, DO NOT ALL JEDI'S USE STRAIGHT SWORDS? WAS THERE EVER ONCE, A JEDI THAT USED A CURVED LOOKING LIGHTSABER OR A KATANA. NOOOO! ALL JEDI'S SWORDS ARE STRAIGHT AND THAT DETERMINES THEIR ACCURACY, SWING, BLOCKING TECHNIQUES, ETC. HAD A JEDI'S LIGHTSABER BEEN CURVED AS IS CHARACTERISTIC OF ALL SAMURAI SWORDS, WUT U SEE IN THE MOVIE WOULD NOT BE THE SAME IN TERMS OF THEIR ACCURACY, SWING, BLOCKING TECHNIQUES, ETC. THIRD, OBI-WAN KENOBI'S HAIR STYLE INCLUDING ITS PONY-TAIL IS DEFINITELY NOT JAPANESE IN NATURE. SURE THERE ARE SUCH THINGS CALLED SAMURAI PONY TAILS AND U CAN ALWAYS CATCH A GLIMPSE OF THEM ON THE SAMURAI'S FEATURED IN KUROSAWA'S FILMS AS WELL AS OLD JAPANESE SAMURAI FILMS THAT FEATURE ZATOICHI: THE BLIND MASSEUSE THAT SAVES THE DAY. BUT U GOTTA BE MORE CAREFUL TO SEE THAT IT IS STILL NOT THE SAME AS OBI-WAN'S. SAMURAI PONY TAILS ARE ALWAYS STICKING STRAIGHT OUT OF A SAMURAI'S HEAD BECAUSE IT IS BUNDLED TOO TIGHTLY AND IT COMES OUT AS A TUFT OF HAIR DIVERGING IN NUMEROUS DIRECTIONS. PLAY "TENCHU" THE PLAYSTATION GAME USING THE GIRL AND YOU WILL KNOW WUT I MEAN. OR IT'S ALWAYS TOO SHORT AND TOO HIGH UP IN THE CRANIAL AREA SO IT MAKES A SAMURAI LOOK LIKE A GORILLA THAT HAS A SAGGITARRIAL CREST RATHER THAN A BADASS. OR IF YOU LOOK AT "GOLDENBOY" A JAPANESE ANIME, YOU WILL SEE THAT GOLDENBOY HAS A PONYTAIL THAT IS FAIRLY LONG BUT RIGHT SMACK DOWN AT THE PLACE WHERE THE NECK IS SO THAT FROM BEHIND, GOLDEN BOY LOOKS LIKE HE HAS A CUTE LITTLE SQUIRREL ON HIS HEAD. SOMETIMES A SAMURAI SHAVES HIS HEAD AND THEN LEAVES A PONY-TAIL BUT THEN IT GIVES A DUMBASS EFFECT LIKE "PRINCE XIZOR" FROM THE CHRONICLES OF STAR WARS: SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE. FINALLY, THERE IS THE MATTER OF ATTIRE. JEDI'S WEAR A FLOWING ROBE WITH LONG WIDE SLEEVES. IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT CHINESE MARTIAL ARTS MOVIES THAT INVOLVE STRAIGHT SWORDS, A GOOD ONE WOULD BE "THE DUEL", YOU WILL ACTUALLY SEE THAT OBI-WAN LOOKS ENTIRELY LIKE A CHARACTER OR WARRIOR THAT COULD BE INTEGRATED INTO THE ANCIENT SOCIETY THAT ONCE DOMINATED CHINA. So let me recap, 1) Japanese people copy Chinese people 2) Lightsabers are straight like the antique straight swords that can be found in China and are not curved 3) The Japanese pony tail that Mr. Namba refered to probably looked like crap (cos it was basically bad imitation off of the Chinese) and comparable to Prince Xizor's pony tail while 4) During the times of ancient China, Chinese warriors dressed in the same exact fashion as Obi-Wan Kenobi did and 5) fashioned their hair style including their pony-tail in the exact , shape, length, and location as Obi-Wan Kenobi did. ALL THAT REMAINS FOLKS IS THAT JEDIS STILL HAVE TO BE CALLED JEDIS SIMPLY BECAUSE ITS FOR THE SAKE OF CONTINUITY EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE BASICALLY CHINESE IN NATURE AND OBI-WAN KENOBI WHILE I DO ADMIT SOUNDS A BIT LIKE JAPANESE HAS TO REMAIN THAT WAY FOR CONTINUITY EVEN THOUGH HE IS CHINESE. OOPS I FORGOT TO MENTION ABOUT FORCE OR IN CHINESE TERMS "CHI-KUNG" AND BELIEVE ME THAT WHOLE ORDEAL WITH QUI-GON JINN TAKING ON ONLY ONE APPRENTICE, THAT'S FROM AN ANCIENT CHINESE PHILOSOPHY THAT IF YOU HAVE MORE, IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO TEACH THEM FULLY SINCE YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE TO CONCENTRATE YOUR FULLEST EFFORTS ON ONE PADAWAN AND THEN ANOTHER WHICH IS NOT EFFICIENT AT ALL AND MAY CAUSE JEALOUSY AS YOU HAVE SEEN IN OBI-WAN'S EYES AS WELL AS ANAKIN'S. HOWEVER, SITH IS DIFFERENT. BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE VIOLENT IN NATURE AND HAVE ALREADY DEVOTED THEMSELVES TO THE DARK SIDE, THE JEALOUS APPRENTICES WOULD SIMPLY DUEL TO THE DEATH AND THAT IS WHY THE RULE CAME ABOUT, "NO MORE, NO LESS, A MASTER AND AN APPRENTICE." FURTHERMORE, I BELIEVE GEORGE LUCAS IN HIS EARLIER YEARS, CLEARLY, I REPEAR, CLEARLY WAS JAPANESE WASHED. HAVE U EVER HEARD OF POKEMON? A BETTER QUESTION WOULD BE WHO HASN'T HEARD OF POKEMON. OK. THERE U GO, THE JAPANESE HAVE A WAY WITH JAPANESE-WASHING PEOPLE'S MINDS. ALSO, WHY DO YOU THINK HE HIRED A CHINESE PERSON TO CREATE THE PRE-PRODUCTION PAINTINGS USED TO DIRECT THE LOOK OF THE MOVIE BEFORE IT WAS EVER SHOT? DOUG CHIANG NOT ONLY PAINTED 1000 PAINTINGS FOR THE PRODUCTION OF EPISODE I: THE PHANTOM MENACE ( A WHOPPING 33% OUT OF THE PAINTINGS TOTAL CREATED BY THE ART DEPARTMENT) BUT HE EVEN HEADED THE ART DEPARTMENT ENTIRELY AND EXACTLY FOR THE MATTER OF NEWLY RECONSTRUCTING THE LOOK OF STAR WARS. WITH ALL THOSE JAPANESE ANIMATORS OUT THERE WHY DOESN'T HE JUST HIRE SOME OF THEM? DOESN'T HE WANT A JAPANESE LOOK FOR HIS STAR WARS FILMS? CLEARLY, GEORGE LUCAS IS NOT STUPID AND CLEARLY HE IS NOT JAPANESE WASHED ANYMORE WHICH IS WHY HE HIRED A CHINESE ART DIRECTOR. THIS IS ALSO BECAUSE GEORGE LUCAS UNDERSTANDS THAT JEDI'S ARE BASICALLY CHINESE ENTAILING THAT IT IS ONLY RIGHT TO GIVE THE JOB TO SOMEONE LIKE DOUGH CHIANG TO DRAW UPON HIS CHINESE CULTURE. FURTHER MORE SINCE HE ALLOWED DOUG CHIANG TO DO MOST OF THE WORK, THE PHANTOM MENACE LOOKED EXACTLY WORD FOR WORD AND PAINTBRUSH STROKE FOR PAINTBRUSH STROKE LIKE HIS PAINTINGS, RESULTING IN A GENUINELY CHINESE FEEL AND EXPERIENCE WHEN U WATCH TPM. OR MAYBE GEORGE LUCAS IS STILL JAPANESE WASHED BUT HE IS WILLING TO CORRECT HIS MISTAKES BECAUSE STAR WARS IS HIS ENTIRE LIFE AND HE CAN'T BE LIVING A LIE LIKE "STAR WARS IS INSPIRED BY THE JAPANESE CULTURE" FOR HIS ENTIRE LIFE WHICH IS THE EXACT REASON WHY HE HIRED DOUG CHIANG. AGAIN I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THAT EVERYTHING THAT SEEMS JAPANESE IN STAR WARS AFTER "RETURN OF THE JEDI" OR I SHOULD RATHER SAY EVERYTHING STARTING FROM "STAR WARS: EPISODE I - THE PHANTOM MENACE" IS SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONTINUITY. THE WORDS JEDI, OBI-WAN KENOBI, AND YODA. I MEAN SERIOUSLY FOLKS, OBI-WAN KENOBI WOULD STILL BE AS CHINESE AND BADASS AS THE MEANEST JEDI THAT EVER LIVED EVEN IF HIS NAME WAS JAR JAR, YOU GET THE IDEA. AND YOU CAN CALL THE JEDI, WITH A FRATERNITY NAME LIKE, "ATO OR ATL OR KAPPA-ALPHA," AND THEY'D STILL BE AS CHINESE, MYSTERIOUS, CODIFIED, AND ELITE AS THEY ALWAYS WERE. ALL IM SAYING IS OBI-WAN KENOBI IS CHINESE BECAUSE FOR THE MOST OBVIOUS REASONS: HE LOOKS CHINESE AND HE USES A STRAIGHT LIGHTSABER NOT A CURVED ONE, ANAKIN SKYWALKER IS CHINESE UNTIL HE TURNED INTO DARTH VADER THAT LOOKS LIKE A JAPANESE SAMURAI WITH THAT BIG WIDE HELMET, YODA AND EVERYONE ON THE COUNCIL IS CHINESE, EVERY SINGLE JEDI IS CHINESE COS THEY USE THE FORCE, YES EVEN THE SITH ARE CHINESE BECAUSE THEY ARE TRAINED IN THE JEDI ARTS AND THEY FOLLOW A GREAT DEAL OF CHINESE PHILOSOPHY. I'D SAY THE ONLY JAPANESE CHARACTERS YOU WILL FIND WITHIN THE STAR WARS UNIVERSE ARE THE NEMOIDIANS AND THEIR OBSESSIONS WITH EXPORTING THEIR GOODS=ANALAGOUS TO THE JAPANESE BULK SELLING THEIR SPORTS CARS TO THE US. THE MANDALORIANS ARE JAPANESE WITH THEIR SUPERIOR TECHNOLOGY=ANALAGOUS TO ADVANCED JAPANESE ELECTRONICS LIKE SONY AND PLAYSTATION 2. ALSO DARTH VADER AND POSSIBLY QUI-GON JINN BECAUSE THEY BOTH SIT DOWN ON THE FLOOR AND MEDITATE TOO MUCH. OH AND LOOK AT MASTER QUI-GON JINN'S BEARD, THAT DEFINITELY LOOKS JAPANESE. JUST GO TO THE GETTYSBURG MUSEUM AND YOU WILL SEE JAPANESE PORCELEIN ART AND SCULPTURES FEATURING JAPANESE NATIVE MEN HAVING GROTESQUE AND BUSHY BEARDS AS WELL AS SUPER LONG HAIR THAT THEY NEVER WASH. Ray: The stormtroopers were NOT supossed to be Jedi's you numbnuts. Not everyone with a lightsaber is a Jedi. Sender: False, George Lucas believes that anyone in his Star Wars films who fights with a lightsaber is because they have extraordinary skill, power, and elegance as opposed to those that use blasters. Stormtroopers used blasters but they were initially drawn with lightsabers and that is very subjective. They could have been a Jedi's match (being able to fight with one entails particular training), per se, but because they finally became analagous with blasters shows that they have less skill, power, and elegance as opposed to Jedi's. All I was saying was those having extraordinary skill, power, and elegance were characters free of a predetermined look. And even if Jedi's were meant to be geared towards a Japanese look (entailing that it was predetermined), than obviously those that believe so (including George Lucas) are falsifying what is called the "truth." The "truth" is that Jedi's look Chinese in origin. I call it as I see them. Ray: Then you say "Darth vader is definitely samurai like with his helmet so i am not racist." Sender: That is the truth. In fact, Darth Vader was supposed to have a completely samurai looking helmet with a cloth as a face mask but because Ralph said that Star Wars is futuristic, Lucas thought the technological face mask was a brilliant idea. Ray: Then you say : "Furthermore, the new obi design far surpasses the old one making him look a lot more sleeker, faster, and daring in design" Geee, would that be because he is YOUNGER now?...Young people and Old people dress differently you know, but still his Costume is practically unchanged. Sender: You are only catering to what I have been saying all along. Hell, Qui-Gon Jinn was perhaps as near as Obi-Wan Kenobi's age when he was in A New Hope. However, he wore the same costume design Obi did in The Phantom Menace and he looks just as sleek, fast, and daring as Obi. However, Qui-Gon may have looked fast but he wasn't. On the other hand, Obi-Wan Kenobi in A New Hope for all we know died because he let it be. With his age, he had become a great master and he was probably hiding more that we can ever imagine (hell when he died, he was still appearing here and there!) but he certainly looked weak in A New Hope and that's not just because he had wrinkles on his face. His costume inside and out looked very sluggish in A New Hope than when compared to the better Chinese version in The Phantom Menace. Ray: "Wut is even more intriguing is that Ralph and Doug have been known to work closely together during the design phase and so the original Obi look had been slowly transformed to a chinese look. " Ralph McQuarrie retired from the bussiness, the only access Dough had to McQuarrie was through his paintings. Sender: No, I am pretty sure that they have become good friends and they analyze each others paintings regardless of whether or not Ralph retired (this isn't construction work). Furthermore, Doug tries to live up to Ralph's paintings through their simple presence, objectiveness, vivid colors, and realism that they convey for Star Wars which isn't too sci-fi but rather with an Earthly feel. Doug may have drawn from his Chinese culture (or Chinese culture research from a simple library) to give Star Wars a historical feel to the Jedi from Chinese origins. What Doug Chiang does not do is copy Ralph McQuarrie for his designs and for obvious reasons, this is the prequel trilogy we are talking about and from what I have seen, there has been very little continuity in terms of design in The Phantom Menace in regards to the original trilogy and I hope it remains that way. Ray: This is not about pride, it's about customs. Doug confessed he knows very little from the Chinese culture, because he is an U.S. citizen and never been to china or anything. Sender: You don't have to go there in order to be educated about such a culture or any other culture for that matter. Ray: I think it is pretty obvious you have issues against the Japanese culture, and that my friend, is what we call R-A-C-I-S-M. Sender: I am not, I simply call it as I see them. Ray: But you still say you're not racist...how about comments like these, from your previews email "DARTH VADER AND POSSIBLY QUI-GON JINN BECAUSE THEY BOTH SIT DOWN ON THE FLOOR AND MEDITATE TOO MUCH. Sender: There is a Japanese word for such meditation when you kneel down like that. Something like Hama-kiri. Ray: Further, you said, "OH AND LOOK AT MASTER QUI-GON JINN'S BEARD, THAT DEFINITELY LOOKS JAPANESE. JUST GO TO THE GETTYSBURG MUSEUM AND YOU WILL SEE JAPANESE PORCELEIN ART AND SCULPTURES FEATURING JAPANESE NATIVE MEN HAVING GROTESQUE AND BUSHY BEARDS AS WELL AS SUPER LONG HAIR THAT THEY NEVER WASH. " Sender: That is definitely true. The Japanese were strict as hell in the Shogunate days 1590-1750. They didn't wash their hair and they grew bushy beards as a sign of masculinity. I do admit that I rant but it is only for Star Wars that I do this since Star Wars is perhaps the only thing that uses a lot of historical background in its making and I can't help but feeling held back when people just falsify the truth for everyone else. I vent the truth sooner or later. Ray: Star Wars shouldn't be tainted with the subject of race. Sender: Star Wars would not be the same were it not for the history and the different cultures that numerous races have created over time. If you create something totally bizarre for Star Wars, it wouldn't look Star Wars. It would look too far-fetched like Babylon 5 or Star Trek. Ray: I am glad you are proud of being of Chinese heritage, just don't take out your shortcomings as a person with other races. Sender: You can call me a racist China-man all you want but I respect all races, cultures, and the whole human race. But it should be intrinsic for anyone to sense whether someone is just being egocentric or just telling it like it really is.
Lookatme=kissmyass by matrix_sux	May 29th, 2001 11:49:46 AM
10 pages of crap
George Lucas has chosen the Sexiest Tomboy Beanpole... by Badger999	Jan 22nd, 2008 02:57:47 PM
But who knows why?
Hey J-Dizzle!!!!!!!!!!!! by connor187	Jan 23rd, 2008 03:23:42 PM
Dont agree with your comments up the top there man! I mean how the hell can you.............Shit that was eight fucking years ago! I knew I would get this time machine working one god dam day.
WARNING!! by WickedMonster	Jan 23rd, 2008 04:42:26 PM
You guys up there, things are gonna happen a year and a half from when you are posting. Shit is gonna hit the fan, like 9/11 and then 2 years later, Iraq war. And then 8 years later, a ManBearPigCrabLion will tear New York City, and name it CLOVERFIELD, not before its run over by Zombies infected by a virus and Will Smith trying to find the cure. And wow, there used to be ladies in talkbacks. Cool. Hey Ellie Sattler, you can have my phone number anytime. And ladyl, you are going to have your day when SPIDER-MAN comes out. But Raimi is gonna screw it up in part 3. Just don't kill yourself by then. Ellie Sattler, ladyl,

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