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Batman forgotten
by Atreides
Jan 18th, 2000
07:27:11 AM
The person who wrote this news is either an idiot,six year old,or had too much coffee. You are exited about the new Batman project!?! You are taking the piss right? There has never I repeat NEVER, been a decent Batman Film or decent Batman TV show. For the love of God, its like shouting about a live action film version of "the Colbys".
If they DO make this flick...
by Dave_F
Jan 18th, 2000
08:31:18 AM
...they'd be fools to pass up on having the brilliant minds of Dini and Burnett backing it. Batman Beyond isn't as good as the regular Batman cartoon, but it is *cool*, and in good hands, a live-action translation could rock hard. If Warner Brothers was smart, they'd put Dini and Burnett on the next *regular* Batman flick too, and give 'em free reign to forget the continuity of the other Bat-flicks.
It would be coooool, but are their animation shows toast?
by Drath
Jan 18th, 2000
08:51:42 AM
This is wonderful news, Harry! Oh please don't let it get smacked down tomorrow! I'm still afraid of Moriarty's warning, that the animation shows are permanently shutting down. Bullshit, I say! It must not be allowed! Only shits for brains would let it be so! Even this uber-cool news does not atone for the loss of future animation classics like more Batman/Superman, JLA, or NEW GODS. IT IS WRONG TO LET THAT GO UNMADE! WB will lose so much money...did they sign a pact with Satan that's running out now, or what?
If Paul Dini is in on the writing...
by smilin'jackruby
Jan 18th, 2000
10:30:20 AM
...I'm there. 'Nuff said.
Beware the bankers
by LSHB
Jan 18th, 2000
10:33:41 AM
The problem with converting comics and cartoons to the big screen is the switch from episodes/issues to a single one-shot deal. With a comic, issues are generated quickly enough and often enough that the writers and artists have the time and leeway to experiment a bit, find out what works in the long run and stick with it. The cartoons are a bit tricker because they are more expensive, but once again the writers can play around with the 30-minute blocks in terms of script. They don't have nearly as much to lose, and they get more grabs at the brass ring, so often they end up punching out really great episodes. Obviously, this ends with a movie. When you're crafting something that expensive, and you only have 1 shot at it, invariably all the bankers and financiers want in on the planning sessions. And they turn around and bring in their marketing experts and demographic charts, and you end up with Batman & Robin. The only comic films that came close were the first two Batman, and arguably the first Superman, and even then the director and the studio wrestled over the insertion of big name stars. What they need to do is get together and treat the character, not the medium, as a single unit. Roll the profits from the successful cartoon shows and comics into the film and consider the bottom line based on overall profit, not as independent units. That way people won't be so fixated on the $50 million sunk in the movie since its foundation is financially as well as artistically grounded on the other successful mediums. If you can kick the bankers shouting "More neon! Bigger explosions! Can't we get a super-model or Keanu Reeves to play that?" out of the planning sessions. You still won't have full control of the project, but at least you'd have a shot at getting some real quality to shine through the lacquered hype.
IT WILL TAKE A MIRACLE TO REVIVE THIS SERIES...THAT'S THAT
by BGW Claw
Jan 18th, 2000
11:13:24 AM
It doesn't matter who writes it, who stars in it (should NOT be Reeves), all that matters is that Joel Schumacher needs to be shot out of the director's chair post-haste. Only THAT can save this franchise from the greatness it had in 1989 with the original. Is anyone else tired of seeing stories about "WELL THEY MIGHT WRITE IT!!!", "THEY COULD BE DOING THAT!!". and, "THEY'RE DOING A TV SHOW!!!"....redundancy is very boring.
Harry, you're hillarious when you rant.
by Tall_Boy
Jan 18th, 2000
11:19:38 AM
"Man... Warners'll get fucking rich off this one! Must buy Warner Stock! Oh shit... AOL BOUGHT IT ALL! BASTARDS... I bet they had insider information about this stuff!" That's gotta be Harry's quote of the millienium, so far. BTW, RETURN OF THE JOKER?! KICKASS!!!! I've only seen the pilot episode of Batman Beyond, cuz I don't get WB, I had to rent the video. :0( But, what I saw, I liked. How many "classic" villians have been on BB, anyway? I'd love to rent Return of the Joker, though, I can't WAIT to hear Mark Hamill do The Joker's voice again. He does such a great job to get that manicical insanity of the character across, even as good, or better than Nicholson did, IMHO. I saw MASK OF THE PHANTASM recently and it kicked ass. And its even cooler that The Joker is Luke Skywalker! The fanboy geek in me cries out in joy.
Hope springs eternal.......
by Praetor
Jan 18th, 2000
11:43:18 AM
This is wonderful news. My one caveat however is whether Dini/Burnett can spin out a feature length screenplay ( ie two hours plus ) given that their speciality is to concentrate events in a 22 minute slot. Whenever an opportunity to be expansive arises, as in 'Mask of the Phantasm' ( a rather more grandiose tale than Batman Beyond ), they seem curiously reluctant to draw matters out beyond one hour. Additionally, past Batman scripts have always tended to fail in the execution than the concept. I liked the idea for Batman Forever ( Bruce Wayne on an elaborate death wish trip ), but what appeared on the screen was a ghastly caricature of the original screenplay.
Please let keanu do this....
by PARTYgirl
Jan 18th, 2000
12:23:23 PM
Okay, some may find this idea an abomination...but who else can pull it off? I mean, for chrissakes, he LOOKS like bruce wayne (note the dark hair, brooding physisque...well, he just looks like a millionare playboy). I'm sure he do a great acting job (despite what people say), and I'd like to see some new blood in there.
This WOULD rule, but...
by brokentusk
Jan 18th, 2000
12:42:05 PM
I agree with Harry (obviously). This would rule and WB WOULD be rich bastards (arn't they already?) Anyway, I don't think that Keanu Reeves would be THAT bad as Batman in BEYOND. I mean, if it's a movie like The Matrix style the he WOULD be good, but I'm not saying a better, slicker actor wouldn't do excellently. Make Batman really dark WB!!!
Rated R (or at least PG13)
by kaloc
Jan 18th, 2000
01:33:36 PM
We all know that the odds of a "correct" version of Batman (or any superhero) are slim to none. Decisions come from finaciers, toy companies, stars, and writers who have no knowledge of what the character is about or why it works. What we would love to see is a rated R Batman in a rated R (possibly XXX) Gotham. Give us a low budget gritty detective drama. Show us a batman who carries lockpicks and thermite in his belt instead of batcuffs. We want to see Batman beating information out of some lowlife in order to save the life of a child. We want to see Bruce put on that mask and to know the fear that he causes to criminals in Gotham. Luckily, we all have a little multiplex in our heads because a movie of value will never be made about any of our favorite characters. (Feel free to prove me wrong Sony & WB, but I won't hold my breath)
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T LET SCHUMACHER DIRECT IT!!
by Jopapa
Jan 18th, 2000
02:19:34 PM
I don't care what any freak who thinks Schumacher did a good job says, Tim Burton IS Batman movies. The only other thing I could hope for would be that he co-direct it with Simon West, or even the Waschowski brothers (SP? You know, the guys that did The Matrix). How 'bout some opinions, here. Who do you people think is the best bet for director?
BRUCE TIMM created the new Batman, dammit
by Irie
Jan 18th, 2000
02:27:00 PM
Paul Dini is along for the ride. EVERYONE knows Bruce Timm was the originator of the new Batman Cartoon series, and he pulls the show off every week with somewhat pedestrian scripts. His designs and color are what sell the show. GET OFF HIS COAT TAILS, dammit!
No...not a Batman Beyond movie....just get Burton to return and
by Eric Draven
Jan 18th, 2000
02:30:06 PM
...i dig the new cartoon, but lets stick to basics. Get Tim Burton...or wait...even better..get David Fincher to do the next Batman....have him do real detective work...have a scene where he silently comes into Comissioner Gordon's office (and replace Pat Hingle with Nick Nolte..hey, have nolte grow a mustache and glasses...there's Gordon), then slip out in mid-conversation...have Scarcrow in it...have either Kevin Spacey or Jeff Goldblum play Scarecrow.... get rid of Robin....turn him into Nightwing and make a good dark movie there.....but yeah...most of all...make it friggin dark!!1....the way Batman should be!
I agree
by Kikstad
Jan 18th, 2000
04:06:54 PM
I'd love to see Dini and Burnett write the next BATMAN live-action script. But why does it have to be set in Batman's future (BATMAN BEYOND) or Batman's past (BATMAN: YEAR ONE) -- why can't they just write a kick-ass Batman script set in current Batman continuity. The only non-contemporary timeline story that holds any promise is the BRUCE WAYNE live action TV series. Other than that, let Batman be Batman.
Back, not Beyond
by Qatseri
Jan 18th, 2000
05:27:41 PM
Well Harry, I have to say that I do not think this is good news. I love the animation team, but I don't think a live action Batman Beyond makes much sense. After four movies, WB has yet to flesh out Batman. I think that the next movie that should be done is a Year One movie. I would love to see them take the script right from the four issue mini-series. It's about the right length, has a cinema-like feel and would not need to be censored THAT much. However, I also know that there is no way in hell the studio would actually wind up with a good script, no matter what the starting point, so fuck it, just leave Batman off the screen for a decade. Also, note that Dini was approached only for plot ideas. That means the great dialogue that we know and love him for will be added by someone else. The WB has yet to prove it know it's ass from a hole in Robin's underwear when it comes to superhero projects. Let 'em try the lower budget Bruce Wayne, where they might be willing to take a chance on some less "Hollywood" scripts and see how that goes, but let's keep Batman way beyond for now...
They should send Vassili Zaitsev after Schumacker before they do
by Stephen Dedalus
Jan 18th, 2000
05:36:19 PM
To see what that means, look at the ENEMY AT THE GATE talk back.
Live-action vs. Animated/Comic
by Tuttle
Jan 18th, 2000
05:39:56 PM
While I agree with the fact that the majority of Batman and other animated/comic vehicles have been ruined on screen by the likes of Keanu etc., the screen has the potential to far outshine any animated or panelled work. The beauty of a great comic for me is the license the artists have with the situations and actions of their characters. In a great comic book, Spider-Man can vault from building to building, all the while pondering whatever, as if the fact that he is suspended by a man-made web was nothing at all. Often this has translated badly to the screen (for reference see just about everything) but if it is ever really done well, the results will be spectacular because live-action is that much closer to reality and therefore that much more amazing. When you look at a comic, you know that they are drawings of pencil and ink. But on the screen, with real actors it is that much easier to suspend disbelief. THE MATRIX is the perfect example of this. The sheer amazing nature of all of the effects was enhanced by the fact that they were people up there on screen. The point of all this, is that I am dying to see a Batman movie, and also hopefully a X-Men movie, that can live up to the promise of the franchise and deliever on screen. It is possible, they just need the right people. If all the good news about BRUCE WAYNE is correct, they might be getting closer. I sure as hell hope so. We have all waited long enough.
I AM SO SICK OF THIS!!!
by The Nemesis
Jan 18th, 2000
05:41:40 PM
I'm only going to say this once: I AM SO SICK OF ALL THIS BATMAN BEYOND SHIT!!!!!!!!!! Does anybody but ME remember what Batman is all about? Does anybody but me remember that BAtman Beyond is a "what if" storyline and NOT fact in the DC universe? Does anybody but me think that BAtman Beyond is a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME, being how everything that we liked about BAtman IS NOT THERE ANYMORE! I think Beyond is an ok cartoon, that has its moments, and ITS REALLY BAD EPISODES("Rats" "Terry's Friend Dates a Robot" and many more)And I just feel like this Beyond show, is just as bad as letting good ol' Shoemaker direct another Bat flick. Why? Because it basically ends all ties to the one and only Batman. Do you really think that after the BB movie comes out that anybody will ever return to Bruce? HELL NO! HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO BET BRUCE WILL DIE IN THE MOVIE??????? HOW MUCH??? It's crap! All crap! I'm a huge Batman fan, and the animated shows (B:TAS, TAB&R, B:TNAS)have been the coolest thing to come to this planet since jelly beans! But with BB, the original series is GONNA BE CANCELED(COme on, it has been on re-run hell for 2 years now, they are going to cancel it eventaully), and we(I am talking about the hard-core fans)are going to loss all true BAtman storylines. The maybe gonna happen/maybe not Bruce Wayne tv series is my only hope for the character. Even if Dini and Burnett are involved in BB:The Movie, they wont be forever...BAtman Beyond 2 will arrive, and it will all go down hill from there. It's gonna suck folks, come on. BB the movie is going to be all special effects(It is the world of the future after all, and we know what it has from the cartoon. Exs: Flying cars, computer ever thing, hell, even the batsuit is full of gizmos and gadjets THAT A REAL BATMAN SHOULD NOT HAVE!) and nothing reality(WHICH IS WHAT BATMAN IS ALL ABOUT!) BB the movie is the worst path for the francise. I WANT BRUCE WAYNE THE TV SERIES ON THE WB! AND I WANT BATMAN: YEAR ONE THE MOVIE! OR, why dont we just get Dini and Burnett to write Batman 5, NOW THERE WILL BE THE BEST BATMAN MOVIE EVER MADE!!! IT WILL BE A BOX OFFICE BLAST TO THE FREAKING MOON! But does the WB think of that? No, they are such fucking IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!
I believe we will get a first ever 100% agreement on AICN for th
by Solidus420
Jan 18th, 2000
06:16:25 PM
If Schumaker gets the directors chair for the next Batman movie, who wants to join my lynch mob out to kill Schumaker?
AAarrgghh! What is with all this slick new Batman!
by 0007
Jan 18th, 2000
06:43:24 PM
Sure, the idea IS cool for an animation series and video releases, but as live-action it would just be too CGI "idealized", glossy, and slick. We need the Year One storyline more than anything. Gritty, dirty, vengeful, and a clumsy looking bat suit like the original Batman serial movies from the thirties looked like. Gangsters, gangsters, gangsters! Film noir gothic all the way!
In my mind, "Batman" means Bruce Wayne's in the Bat-suit. "Batma
by Alexandra DuPont
Jan 18th, 2000
08:38:26 PM
Um, Excalibur! Er, Enought said! Or something....
Batman Beyond live-action film NOT HAPPENING!
by Fabio2
Jan 18th, 2000
09:09:54 PM
These are the facts - Warner Bros. have narrowed the direction they want to take BATMAN 5 down to two versions - YEAR ONE or BATMAN: THE JOKER'S REVENGE (which Keanu IS preliminarilly connected to, despite what anyone else says). BB is no longer in the running, and indeed, was never seriously considered as a contender. Dini/Timm/Burnett being connected to a live-action BB movie is false. Dini admitted just a few short weeks ago that he'd never heard of such a film, andd now he's supposed to be writing it? No way. It also looks like the "Bruce Wayne" TV show is doomed as well, whether it's a good idea or not. I personally haven't read the pilot script or the series bible, but the premise sounds iffy to me.
I THINK THIS IS SHAMELESS!!! Now, they have great talent behind
by dennis
Jan 18th, 2000
10:02:45 PM
The whoring WB is just trying to reinvent the franchise so they can keep their cash-cow going. I'm sure Batman Beyond is a good product (I've only seen a couple of EPs, but the concept really has no interest to me), but what is wrong with the ORIGINAL CHARACTER? What this says WB, is that you SUCK AT MAKING A GOOD BATMAN MOVIE! Yes, that's right, you $#@*ed up the original franchise, so you had to go out and make YOUR OWN BATMAN. Thanks for admitting your stupidity. Now fire Jon Peters, find a new director, and make BATMAN: YEAR ONE. Jeezus....
In a perfect world. . .
by Sith Lord Jesus
Jan 18th, 2000
10:02:54 PM
. . .the BRUCE WAYNE TV series would get greenlighted. On cable. To run right after THE SOPRANOS. And the next BATMAN movie wouldn't be BATMAN BEYOND--which sounds cool, don't get me wrong--but a big budget, A-list THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. And Schumacher would, as I've said before in another Talkback, be abducted by aliens to get anal-probed throughout eternity. But then again, in a perfect world he wouldn't have been allowed to do the last two Bat-flicks anyway.
Amen to Batman as a REAL detective....
by dennis
Jan 18th, 2000
10:12:00 PM
When is the WB going to get it? I'd really like the see the Long Halloween made into a TV miniseries...maybe the guy that does the Sopranos?
Fabio2...you think Timm doesn't know anything?
by dennis
Jan 18th, 2000
10:14:15 PM
Could this be old news that's being recycled to stir up the hornet's nest? I mean, how many times have we got the @$#%ing carrot dangled before us, only to find out that it was a rumor dredged up from a year ago?
YOU ARE A DAMN GENIOUS
by MAlkovich
Jan 18th, 2000
10:24:09 PM
HBO would be perfect for bruce wayne. Sopranos is 2 mil a show, hbo can afford it and it would be amazing.
In The Running? These Guys Should Be the Only Choice!
by Buzz Maverik
Jan 19th, 2000
12:11:03 AM
In the running...sounds about right. Probably somebody's nephew who just dropped out of SC will get it.
Possible problem with Bruce Wayne if done right -- would like fe
by dennis
Jan 19th, 2000
12:25:59 AM
I didn't consider this until just a few seconds ago. Without the superhero element involved in a long-running series such as Bruce Wayne, when he finally DOES don the cowl, is anyone going to care? My point is, if we become intrigued with all of these characters as NORMAL people, is it going to seem hokey, and frankly, unbelievable for a grown man to dress up as a giant bat? I would like your opinions.
THIS IS A HORRIBLE IDEA! IT MUST BE STOPPED!!
by Bono
Jan 19th, 2000
12:29:10 AM
Give me a break!!! They haven't even made ONE decent Batman movie--so why the hell are they moving forward with BATMAN BEYOND (which will no doubt feature more black rubber S&M armor and MATRIX-like Bat costumes). Can't anyone out there just make a Batman movie without putting their own "creative" spin on it? Batman: blue cape, grey tights,yellow utility belt that actually has compartments for equipment, and a ton of fist fighting!!!! Just fucking BATMAN, you morons!!!!
BRUCE WAYNE will always be BATMAN..........
by SiDiOuS
Jan 19th, 2000
01:10:17 AM
and not some silly teenager that looks like Robin. I hate the idea of Warner Bros. making a live-action BATMAN BEYOND movie when the series is absolutely nothing compared the original BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES. Paul Dini and the other guys that made the TV series so great should, without a doubt, write, consult, direct and produce the new one.
casting dream
by color
Jan 19th, 2000
02:23:08 AM
actually, if you wanted an old bruce wayne, you should get brilliantly cranky james coburn. and for batman, can we please get someone of color. not that val kilmer or george clooney were bad (yeah right, who am i kidding) but i'm rather sick of black superheroes who are either wesley snipes or are worse than wesley snipes and asian superheroes who know karate (i know more white people who know karate than asian people who do). and of course there are no hispanic or native american superheroes.
Batman Beyond is horrible!!
by Bono
Jan 19th, 2000
04:58:28 AM
Batman Beyond is a lame, watered-down version of Miller's work--but without the wit or charm. It amazes me what you comic book loving kooks will embrace. The new Batman cartoon show is good when you compare it to other cartoon versions...but like Burton and his "serious" Batman (when compared to Adam West), that ain't saying much!
Batman live action
by Atreides
Jan 19th, 2000
10:34:49 AM
It's only after giving this Batman discussion some thought that I have made the realisation that there has NEVER been a decent live adaptation of a comic book - think about it
In reply to Color's message
by The Nemesis
Jan 19th, 2000
04:54:11 PM
Hey man, I understand what you mean when it comes to superheros being all white people. But did you know that Batman has been around since the 60s? You can't just make him African American or Hispanic just because you want to appeal to the minorities of this country. I mean, I'm not racist, but I dont think comicbook superheros should have the same system as some jobs do, where minorities are hired dispite qualifications sometimes. I dont think well known characters can just change out of the blue. But hey, I think Blade is really cool, and I loved his movie and eagarly await the sequel Blade 2: Bloodhunt. Anyhow, if you want to know some more African American heros: ---In the Batman universe, one of the MOST important side characters to Bruce Wayne, not Batman, is Lucius Fox. THink of it this way, if Bill Gates was better looking he would grace all the magazine covers. And now think of Bill Gates not really running the Microsoft, but merely over seeing it all. That is what Bruce Wayne is like. True, he owns Wayne Enterprises, but he doesn't always run it.....actually, he pretty much slacks off, and his ownership is only on paper. Now Lucius Fox is Wayne's right hand man and he runs the whole joint. Why is Lucius so important? Well if there was no Lucius, Batman couldn't exist because Bruce wouldn't have the time anymore to be Batman. Lucius doesn't know Bruce is Batman, but Lucius and his family are good friends of the Waynes(When they were alive of course)and Lucius covers for Bruce. I'd say Lucius is the third most important side character(Meaning he isn't a crime fighter in a costume)next to Alfred and Commissioner Gordon. ---Anyhow, there's Blade as you mentioned. ---Bishop from the X-Men, he can time travel and has cool powers. ---Steel from the superman universe(Yes this is the same Steel that got a movie with Shaq playing him, I didn't see the movie, but I doubt it stayed true to the character)is really cool too. He was in the animated Superman show and he is a trusted friend and partner to ol' Sups. ---Storm from the X-Men ---And then Laurence Fishburn from the MAtrix was awesome as hell! I REALLY hope he returns for MAtrix 2 and 3. Yeah, you are right about there being so many white superheros, and in all honesty, the reason is because so MANY superheros were created so long ago(Superman, Batman, The Flash, the X-Men, Wonder Woman, Spiderman, the Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Daredevil, Doctor Strange, etc)in a time in the 20th century where african americans were still fighting segregation in schools. So it was just too long ago for African Americans to form their own superheros. I dont agree with it, I also hope to see more superheros of other colors(Especially, HiSpanics and NAtive Americans, cause I couldn't think of any superheros of those nationalities! There might not be any!)but again, the most popular superheros have been around so long and that's why they are all white. In conclusion, I agree with you but I still dont think BAtman should be changed. What is, is. we'll see more variety in the years to come. And Martin Luther King Jr. is still a superhero too you know.
Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne
by JediFunk
Jan 19th, 2000
07:44:18 PM
If a live action version of BB is made, who would think it would be cool to have Micheal Keaton play the old Bruce Wayne?!?
Re: Color
by Sith Lord Jesus
Jan 20th, 2000
12:30:17 AM
The lack of minority superheros is something that I, as an African-American, have long noticed. I hope to help change that when I get my own comics going soon--I've got ideas for several African, Asian, African-American and Hispanic heroes which I'm setting in a more believable world then what you see in the DC and Marvel universes. Think WATCHMEN if ya wanna know what I'm aiming for. For example: why are all the superbeings American or (maybe) British? What about places like Africa, South America. . .and Iran? What if there were an Iranian equivilant of Superman who decided to help his government spread Islam throughout the middle east and destroy Israel? To us, sure, he'd be a villan, but to the Iranians (and many Arabs) he'd be a hero. And what if one of the superbeings in, say, China or the US decided he or she could run the country better and just took over? Who could stop him/her? And what about all the aliens in the comics you see (the Shi'ar, etc)? Why don't the various nation states have diplomatic relations with them, trade for arms, technology, etc? Makes you wonder what such a world would look like, eh?
Superhero movies and SHIT!....
by JON1969
Jan 20th, 2000
07:02:16 PM
Can I play?! Can they make good quality comic book movies! Yes they can and have! What about the Crow, Dark City, Superman, Masters of the Universe, Robocop, Conan, Stormriders, T2, and others of their ilk. Yes I know that some of these films are not comic books, but they were clearly inspired by comics! Any comic book can be translated to film or T.V. ... it depends on the creative force behind it! There have been some bad comic book films , but there have behind some very questionable choices behind these films. Remember when they made the Punisher and the director said he didn't even know who the character was. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT! And I'm not saying that every writer or director should be a comic book geek ... rather, I would like to see some people who respect the material. The first Batman is not a success in my eyes ... but I will give Tim Burton a lot of credit for respecting the material and trying to fit the images and theme into his own particular style. Did I care for Keaton as Batman? NO! I did not... BUT, once again Burton gave some damn good reasons for his choice. He wanted someone who you would least expect to be Batman to BE Batman. Not a 6 foot plus guy who could just thrown on a mask and beat the HELL out of criminals. Good pitch ... but... BATMAN wanted to dress up as a FLYING RAT to scare the shit out of criminals!!!!! Do we need a another Batman film?! I wouldn't mind , if its good! NO! I do not want to see BATMAN BEYOND! I would prefer the DARK KNIGHT! To the person who said that comics and cartoons can compete with the screen/film. Yeah right ... you can have the Matrix and I'll take Watchman ... you can have the Mummy ... give me Alan Moore's Swamp Thing ... Take Batman Beyond and give me Kingdon Come!!! There are several comics that KICK major ASS ... SANDMAN, HELLBLAZER, THE MAN WITHOUT FEAR, PREACHER, PLANTERY, AND ETC. There are some comics "WATCHMAN" that cannot be translated properly, because they were setup to be presented in the comic book format. Period! They are by far more well written than this crap we are being fed today, such as (fill in the blank). Should Batman be a man of color ... HELL FUCKING NO!!!! He's white ... someone made a good point about this! If you want to see some characters of color ... there are several characters to choice from ...TIM TRUMAN'S SCOTT ... this would have been a great product ... and the perfect guy would have been BILLY from PREDATOR. Of course there is the Black Panther ... the White Tiger... Jon Stewart ... Thunder bird ... Dr.Light ... Puma (sorry he's a villian) or better yet they can make up some characters and not that BLANKMAN shit! To the person who's starting his own company ... GO FOR IT! I'm a artist myself and I have a good mix of races presented in my stories ... not because I'm a anry black man .. rather I wanted to present a character who happen to be black and I feel that I can present said character with respect. I wil not do some call MALCOM X , AFRO GIRL, MARTIN 10, SISTER GIRL, CAPTAIN AFRICA ... I just HATE that type of shit! Hell a Powerman and Iron Fist film could be kick ass! Anyway that's enough of my bitchin' ... HEY WARRIOR I'LL SEE YA IN HELL!
Luke Cage, T'challa -- The Black Panther, Thunderbird, Jubilatio
by dennis
Jan 20th, 2000
07:33:22 PM
All minority superheroes. I guess there's not an "iconic" minority superhero. I still think that Black Panther would be cool with Taye Diggs. He even looks like T'challa.
minority heroes
by dougmac
Jan 21st, 2000
11:17:04 AM
....Rainmaker,Ripclaw, Spawn,Warpath,Sunfire, Skin, Synch,to name a few more.
Im doing a Crow graphic novel with an African American avenger..
by Eric Draven
Jan 21st, 2000
05:35:26 PM
I think The Crow, which is inspired by a comic, is amazing...and i am a far of the comics that have come out.... I diceded to write and illustrate a Crow story with the first African American undead avenger...it will also take place in the 50's. And he is gonna seriously get medevil on some KKK ass.....it's still a work in progress, but i thought aa african american crow was overdue. Oh yeah...im a white dude....if that makes a difference....i didnt think so either.
Batman Beyond cast
by X-Killa
Jan 23rd, 2000
12:15:35 PM
Hey wait....why dont they use that same guy who does the voice....you know that guy from boy meets world....he does look like him..and get Tommy Lee Jones as Bruce Wayne(a little make up and he's the spitting image)..oh and put jake Lloyd as terry's little brother..they do look a lot like the cartoons...i still havent seen anyone that looks like comissioner gordon.
Batman Beyond
by Brikar99
Feb 17th, 2000
10:10:03 PM
I have to say that I am a fan of the Batman Beyond cartoon. And I think if the upcoming X-Men movie is as good as the trailer looks (with the exception of Storm's wig), then Warner might almost be forced to come out with something to contest it. And Batman Beyond could be just the thing to jumpstart the ailing franchise.
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