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Waggo sucks - first.
by wedgered2
Dec 9th, 1999
07:23:43 AM
Sounds intersting. One can only hope it is as cool as it sounds.
This sounds dubious
by eegah
Dec 9th, 1999
08:21:14 AM
Hmmm. I'm gettting "Replacement Killers" vibes. I have a sneaking feeling we will be subjected to low-angle, slow-mo "OH MY GOD! IT'S JET LI!!!!!" shots, MTV-style editing, choppy, sloppy directing, and paper-thin characterization. But...I absolutely could be wrong. I hope so, as Jet Li needs a proper American film, as opposed to that sad affair. Now, in the interim, if you're craving a "Romeo & Juliet" story...I highly reccommend "Tromeo & Juliet" from the great Troma team. A modern classic to be sure.
Sounds cool. I'm in.
by Dave_F
Dec 9th, 1999
08:32:09 AM
Just re-watched Black Mask last night, a cheesy-fun Jet Li movie with a comic booky premise and an unlikely-but-cool rap and hip-hop soundtrack. I'm a moderate kung-fu fan, and this happened to be my first Jet Li movie. Innately likeable is a good way to describe him, though the movie itself is as poorly plotted as most kung-fu flicks. Fun stuff, but I'm still waiting for that mythical movie that will wed the best Hong Kong action and stuntwork with legitimate characters and a good story. Romeo Must Die won't be that movie, but it sounds a little more inspired than the usual chop-socky, and sometimes that's enough. ******* By the way, everyone out there in Talkback Land has seen Drive, right? In the action/comedy school of martial arts, I place it above the work of even the great Jackie Chan.
Hmmm.........why not....
by E_Man
Dec 9th, 1999
08:43:31 AM
Why not ? I
Black Mask
by twindaggerturkey
Dec 9th, 1999
09:52:19 AM
The original cut of BLACK MASK was a whole lot better. A lot of scenes here and there were cut out for the american theatrical version. Plus, they took out the original music (it was sort of surfer music which fit well with the retro look of Li's character) and put in rap. Annoying! It was cool to see Karen Mok, Anthony Wong, and Lau Ching Wan on the big screen for the first time, though. Big Jet Li fans should check out the subtitled version if they haven't seen it. Hope Romeo is good!
Hey, pachuco...
by Uncle Cracky
Dec 9th, 1999
10:04:43 AM
"Romeo is bleeding, but nobody can tell. Sings along to the radio with a bullet in his chest..." Oh, man, I had to turn Black Mask off! I guess I wasn't in the mood for cheese that night. I'm sure the oringinal cut is much better. Those rap songs were the worst! Was the "Kato" look for Li intentional? I don't know. I enjoyed "The New Legend of Shao Lin" much better. Though I kept getting "Lone Wolf & Cub" flashbacks. Anybody know of any Jet Li films out there that are played straight and don't seem like a drunken fairy tale?
OHMIGOD, It's Chow Yun-Fat! Plus, the best Hollywood martial ar
by Wesley Snipes
Dec 9th, 1999
10:13:33 AM
The low-angle, "oh my god, it's Chow Yun-Fat" opening to The Replacement Killers was IMHO the best part of the movie! TRK didn't suck because it was in awe of CYF (Tell me, how did that hurt the movie really?). The boring, awful script was what killed it. Helping were mediocre action scenes and zero chemistry between the stars. Looks like Anna & the King will finally be CYF's "great American movie". Anyway, enough about that, what about this? Sounds cool! The BEST Hollywood Martial Arts action has got to be Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story, though. The feel of the fight scenes just struck me as very American (high impact, high testosterone action), yet it didn't cut too much or use too many close-ups thereby obscuring the choreography. Perfect IMHO. Better than the fights in Matrix, which were cool but seemed a bit 'dainty' for some reason (like you could just tell they weren't hitting hard). The sound effects in Dragon also rocked. Just a suggestion, but if they need to re-edit the fight scenes, they could do worse than to emulate Dragon.
The only Jet Li flick one MUST see!!
by SnackyCakes!
Dec 9th, 1999
10:21:31 AM
Fist of legend one of the best Jet Li martial arts movies ever made. Starring Jet Li and directed by Yuen Woo-Ping. Some of the best acting and fighting by Li...get it now!! Other great movies w/Jet Li: Once Upon A Time In America (1-3); My Father Is Hero
Serious Li movies, Dragon clarification
by Wesley Snipes
Dec 9th, 1999
10:22:36 AM
Uncle Cracky, try Fist of Legend if you want a serious Jet Li film. After seeing FOL, The Wachowski's hired the choreographer to work on The Matrix, though FOL does NOT use any superhuman fly-through-the-air moves. It's a tad more realistic. I believe Disney's Dimension Films is going to release it here dubbed, rescored and cut where it counts, the martial arts scenes! (the martial arts actually earned a NC-17 for some insane reason - Yet it's not bloody). No doubt the dubbing will suck and the vhs will be pan & scan. Hold out for the DVD or better yet, find the original HK version on widescreen tape or DVD or laserdisc. It's worth it.
Jet Li, Chow Yun Fat, Takeshi Kitano
by Meat Takeshi
Dec 9th, 1999
10:33:09 AM
Have all yet to get the breakthroughs they deserve in the states. Chow's seems to have arrived with Anna and The King and i have good expectations for the Ang Lee fist fest with Michelle Yeoh. I hope this breaks for Jet Li as he is an undoubted talent i have yet to see the Americanised Black Mask but i thought the original cut wasn't exactly his strongest piece. Check out Once Upon a Time in China or The Legend of Fong Sai Yuk for vintage Jet stuff, good plots, incredible fights, humour and pretty much devoid of cheese. But whilst we are in the east what about the greatest living active director/actor/painter/talk show host/comedian Takeshi Kitano. This man is a true auteur responsible for some of the finest films this decade. So what do the american studios offer him, bit parts in shit like Johnny Menomic. If you don't believe me check out any one of Takeshi's films, especially Sonatine, Hana Bi (I think you got it as Fireworks) or Kids Return.All absolute classics and unlike anything in terms of tone, pacing and feel that you have ever seen. Hey yeah, so my pseudonym kinda gives how my fandom lies but the man is one of the true greats working in modern cinema and people should take note.
Snacky cakes
by Meat Takeshi
Dec 9th, 1999
10:36:00 AM
Once Upon a Time in America is a film by Sergio Leone, Once upon a Time in China (1-3) are Jet Li movies. Ps The third part is awful and thats the Once Upon a Time in China And America one from where the confusion arose. No disrespect intended but if we on an education tip we gotta be accurate.
Sorry about the confusion, Meat
by SnackyCakes!
Dec 9th, 1999
11:06:42 AM
I actually enjoyed OUATIC 3, the fighting wasn't as good as 1 & 2 but the story and romance between wong fei-hung & aunt yee was worth it for me. haven't seen OUATIC&A yet, but ya gotta love "club-foot" !! anyhoo, I've seen Takeshi "Beat" Kitano's movies and i also belive he is a genius. there's a new movie that came out this year entitled "Kikujiro no natsu" where Takeshi does the comedy thing it's supposed to be hilarious...can't wait to get my hands on it!! :)
Snipes, Chow, Dragon and Fist
by eegah
Dec 9th, 1999
11:13:52 AM
Wes, I agree that the "OMIGOD" shots didn't hurt the film, per se. They were just incredibly annoying. I felt like I was watching the directing work of a guy who couldn't believe he was shooting a film with Chow and had to remind the whole world of it. The whole film was miserable dreck anyway. Now, as for "Dragon", I couldn't agree more! The whole film is well-made, but the fight scenes really capture the choreographed mayhem of the old blood-and-thunder flicks. Why nobody else in Hollywood seems to get it is beyond me. And a message to all who want intros to Jet Li...FIST OF LEGEND. Everyone who has already suggested it is 100% on the money. No film better showcases what he can do than that one. Crazy fight scenes, minimal wire-fu, and a story that is worth following to boot. Li-newcomers, track this one down.
Takeshi Kitano
by Anton_Sirius
Dec 9th, 1999
11:35:00 AM
Kikujiro is incredibly funny- I can't wait to see it again when it gets its North American release next year. Kitano spoofs the very image he cultivated in Sonatine et al. I've heard Mr. Beat is shooting some buddy cop-Red Heat meets Rush Hour kind of deal with Omar Epps next. Anybody know anything about it?
Is Wire Work Bad?
by Dmann
Dec 9th, 1999
11:37:18 AM
ok, ill admit that im not scholar of kung-fu flicks, and my knowladge of foreign ones is sorely lacking. For god's sake, i was brought up on Chuck norris flicks. (ooh look, i kicked a guy) But ive seen more than a few, some good, some bad, most late at night on cable. My question: is wire fu bad, or just un-realistic looking. (movies aint realistic...most fights ive seen end when the first guy gets his face broke...some looks more real, and believable) I always enjoyed the wire fighting, it looks neat and is fun....but i accept there is a time and a place
Wire work
by eegah
Dec 9th, 1999
12:14:08 PM
I also think wire work has its place. I mean, some of the coolest elements of "The Matrix" were done using wires. It's just even more fun to watch what one can do using their own body and nothing else. But wires are an integral part of much of the kung-fu genre and always will be (probably).
Re: Wesley - American Kung Fu movies
by Devils Halo
Dec 9th, 1999
01:13:16 PM
To me, and probably only to me, nothing can beat Carpenter's "Big Trouble in Little China" as the all out, american made, kung fu epic. "D:TBLS" was a little slow in its choreography and it showed in some parts. Although I must admit, Jason Scott Lee had a lot of Bruce's movements dead on. Besides, "Enter the Dragon" was an american production and I still get mesemerized by the scene between Bruce and Robert Wall. His face off punches are so lightning quick! And as for wire work, I'm not opposed to it, but it does seem that in the new era of aerial combat, kungh fu films, it's slightly, ok.. more than slighty over the top. Give me a good Shaw Bros. film anyday with Alexander Fu Sheng, Chen Kuan Tai or Ti Lung. I wish Run Run (or is it Runme, I don't remember which is still alive) would release the prints to ALL of the films be cleaned up and transferred. Not so much for the famed "5 Deadly Venoms," but more for "Bloody Avengers," "Death Chamber" or "Four Assasins".
american kung fu
by SnackyCakes!
Dec 9th, 1999
01:23:46 PM
I will tell you this... 3 of the best american-made martial arts movies I have seen recently have been 3.superfights; 2.bloodmoon; 1.drive. if you can..rent these movies, you will not be disappointed!! if anyone else has seen any of these movies please write...i'm curious as to what other people thought of these direct-to-video gems!
RE: Meat Takeshi
by Niiiice
Dec 9th, 1999
01:46:14 PM
Don't expect Takeshi to get a breakthrough in America. Why? Because his movies aren't mainstream at all! His films tend to have very little dialogue, and you know most American audiences can't stand a movie that doesn't spell anything out for them. "Sonatine" is one of my favorites films of all time...the beautiful shots (especially the paper doll fight.....you know what I mean) and the central character's internal struggle. Kitano is an auteur, his films are more artsy than anything else that finds its way to the cineplex screen. Placing him in the same group of breakthroughs like Jet Li and Chow Yun Fat isn't really correct, because action and kung-fu movies are mainstream stuff. Romeo Must Die sounds like a breakthrough for Li. Black Mask was pretty cheesy, except for the matrix-esque fighting scenes (the fight coordinator was the same on both films, and Black Mask DID come out first, so it wasn't a rip off) and seeing the lovely Francoise Yip in action. But I digress...Takeshi's film are made on a higher artistic level than most audiences care to understand. At times its often more abstract...you sit there and wonder "now, why did he do that" because the film doesn't give you all the answers, you're left thinking it over after the film's over. After Sonatine, half the people I watched it with were actually pissed off, because they were expecting a straight up gangster movie, which I was also expecting but was pleasantly surprised. There's so much more to the surface plot. But, yeah, thats just a little ranting for you...
Devil's Halo--You are not alone
by Duke
Dec 9th, 1999
02:03:37 PM
Outside of the Toshiro Mifune films, which are "sword arts", my all-time favorite for all-around ass-kickin fun is Big Trouble in Little China. I still laugh as Kurt struggles to unsheath his knife while "little buddy" kicks all the baddies asses. "Magic potion....yeah, right"...."hey, I'm starting to feel pretty good"..."is it warm in here?" You gotta love it and, furthermore, it gives an explanation for the wire-work. (My God, I've got more hyphens in this posting than a N.O.W. convention--bet that comment will get me flamed!)
Superfights
by eegah
Dec 9th, 1999
02:14:33 PM
Snacky, I always thought I was the only person who ever saw that film! Even though Brandon Gaines spends much of the film dressed like a model for a Gap catalog (Dig those blue v-neck sweaters!), the fighting is awesome! I actually had forgotten about that one. "Bloodmoon" was made by the same crew, but I can't recall who was in that one. Still, that one had some kick-ass fighting in it as well. Thank you HBO for giving those films a well-deserved platform!
re: Superfights
by SnackyCakes!
Dec 9th, 1999
03:16:38 PM
yeah, thanx to HBO, i've got a special place in my heart for every american cynthia rothrock movie ever made, and every don "the dragon" wilson movie. I know these movies suck, but i gotta tell ya, i looooove watching these things. :) - just for the record, cynthia rothrock ruled in the "Inspector Wears Skirts"(HK). - i'm also ashamed of myself for seeing a couple of cat sassoon flicks!! on hbo (before and after the implants & nose job)!! lol
Re: Duke
by Devils Halo
Dec 9th, 1999
03:26:54 PM
It's all in the reflexes!
Drive
by nolanliang
Dec 9th, 1999
04:14:46 PM
Right on, Snackycakes. I picked up Drive about a year ago because I knew it was directed by Steven Wang(Director of Guyver 2 and sculpter of the Preditor mask). I was totally blown away by the quality of the fight coreography. Not only that, but the lead(Mark Dacoscos) could do just about everything demanded of him. I can only think of one or two scenes where they had to bring in an extra since Mark was too heavy for the wire work. The fights were extremely fluid and just ooze out Hong Kong influences. I'm not sure who the coreographer was, but he and his stunt team were probably from Hong Kong.
Re: Drive
by SnackyCakes!
Dec 9th, 1999
04:54:57 PM
i totally forgot about guyver 2!! it rocked!! i hated the first one, it was crap! and that racist--jive talkin' j.j. jimmy "dyn-o-mite" walker monster??!! "jar-jar binks" precursor anyone??? but the second one was darker, more hard core, more in-line with the anime version of what guyver was supposed to be!! great special effects and some neato ass-kickin'!!! i definitely recommend it as one of the cooler live action-anime inspired movies!! i'm gonna mention one of the ultimate gore-fu movie!! has anyone seen... STORY OF RICKY/RIKI-OH!! i await your comments!!
West Side Story remake!!!!
by sexualchocolate1
Dec 9th, 1999
05:21:48 PM
That's sure what it sounds like except this time this PROMISES to be better than previous "Romeo & Juliet" modernized remakes.
AMERICANS can shove THEIR EGO UP THEIR ASS!!!!!!!
by Scum Punch
Dec 9th, 1999
08:04:40 PM
Hi. I'm Canadian. And I'm tired of Americans bitching and whining about productions going to Canada or Australia. It's a free market. American movies and television have dominated the global airwaves and theatres for the past fifty years. I assure you that almost 90% of all movies and television programming in Canada are produced by Americans about Americans doing patriotic American things. Finally Australia and Canadian production companies are getting some respect, but whiny American pissants like FX are either A)too greedy to share a peice of the pie OR B) too incompetent to compete with quality foreign production. WAKE UP AMERICAN PUSSIES. If Americans care so much about losing there precious work, than grow up and do what adults do: COMPETE.
To the canadian above
by Niiiice
Dec 9th, 1999
08:56:50 PM
They are still American productions. The only quality Canadian film I've seen recently is Cube.

by JackFoley
Dec 10th, 1999
12:33:02 AM
Cube is the only quality Canadian film you've seen? How often do you go to the movies?! Have you seen The Red Violin, Bad Money, The Sweet Hereafter, 32 Short Films..., Black Robe, Le Confessional just to name a few?!? If yes, then please justify why these are 'bad' movies. If not, then maybe expand your knowledge of Canadian cinema before you make sweeping statements about it.
Big Trouble
by MarshHawk
Dec 10th, 1999
12:48:44 AM
Big Trouble In Little China...one of my all-time fave movies! Just a touch of cheese here and there, and awesome martial melees! Favorite straight-up kungfu movie? I gotta say "Shaolin vs.Llama"...despite the fact that our Chinese heroes are being tormented by evil Tibetans (go fig). "If you do defeat me...feel free to use this stick to beat me for my insolence." That one's a keeper. First martial arts movie...anyone remember "Kill and Kill Again"? Talk about cheese...the professor gets kidnapped because he found a way to make both a highly efficient fuel AND a mind-control drug from potatoes.(?!?) One more thing...Mr. Canada, lighten up, eh? What's your hostility really "aboot"? :)
wu-tang vs shaolin
by EdVille
Dec 10th, 1999
12:48:56 AM
What do you guys think about all of those cheap(to buy) movies that a part of the Wu-Tang collection? Are they quality? They are so cheap that i can't help to want to buy one or two, just to check them out.
Essential Jet Li films and why I'm worried about RMD
by magmox
Dec 10th, 1999
01:32:44 AM
I love kung fu movies...I have almost every movie that Jet has made from Shaolin Temple to Fist of Legend to the OUTIC series, etc, etc. Jet Li and Donnie Yen (OUTIC II, Iron Monkey) are my favorite Hong Kong actors. I'm worried that with the virtual death of Hong Kong cinema, Jet Li's Romeo must Die will follow in the tradition of Jackie Chang and turn unto a watered down "American" version of his classic movies that play to AMerican audiences that are too dumb to appreciate quality movies. Well that's what I think at least....
Martial Arts flicks
by Evil Dead
Dec 10th, 1999
04:01:03 AM
I'm sorry, but Drive sucked. Okay so it did have some great fights but that's about it. The comedy didn't work and Britney Murphy is a cute Jar Jar in her role. Superfights was certainly something else. It's very bloody yet I saw it right after The Batman/Superman Adventures on a Saturday morning! Bloodmoon was good too, but like Superfights and Drive suffered from terrible comedy bits. BTW Bloodmoon starred Gary Daniels(he was the lead in the live action Fist of North Star movie), and an interesting note for wrestling fans Rob Van Dam from E.C.W. had a bit part as one of the fighters. One other direct to cable/video kung fu flick with American cast and crew in King of the Kickboxers with Tai-Bo man Billy Blanks. For 80's Hong Kong fans the sound efx will be familiar. Besides Fist of Legend I've got to recommend Tai Chi Master. It's got Michelle Yeoh, and it's damn funny to boot. As far as non-Jet Li movies go, I'll say Legend of the Wolf is a must see. For once, quick cuts and "MTV style" editing work. What Donny Yen(actor and star) does is virtually reinvent the way modern kung fu flicks are looked at. Hey anyone remember Shogun Assassin? Sure it was an edited version of the Lone Wolf and Cub movies, but it really worked and kicked ass.
RE: Niiiice
by Meat Takeshi
Dec 10th, 1999
08:05:15 AM
Your right about the world of difference between Kitano and the other two action stars i mentioned. I was just grouping together a bunch of Asian superstars that would allow me to segue straight into my Kitano appreciation. I too have confused people with Sonatine, they expecting John Woo vibes and end up dissapointed. The paper doll scene is beautiful, personally i love the holes in the beach moment. IMDB is listing another three films following on from Hana Bi which was the last one we got in the UK. Tokyo Eyes a French Japanese co production not directed by Kitano. Kikujiro no natsu gets a US release in May, no date listed for us in the UK, what the ****, and is a straight up comedy. Gohatto gets a Japanese release a week tomorrow. No release for US or UK yet. He is currently filming Brother in Japan, how about some far flung spies on this on Harry.
to foley
by Niiiice
Dec 10th, 1999
06:37:08 PM
It was a joke meant to inflame the already enraged ramblings of the crazed Canadian poster. Honestly, you people take things way too seriously...
ScumPunch
by Duke
Dec 10th, 1999
06:39:09 PM
Wow! Who peed on your back-bacon? I just hope that ScumPunch is not a Canadian writer, because his spelling alone will drive the jobs back to America. Anyway, I can't be angry with him even though he calls us Americans whiners...After all, his great land gave us Michael J. Fox.
asia RULES
by 7211
Dec 11th, 1999
10:05:08 AM
As an asian, to be specific, a Singaporean, i feel soooo sorry for all you 'ang-moh-langs' (caucasians) who don't get to watch much HK movies.A new movie just opened over here, 'Purple storm' starring DANIEL WU, and JOAN CHEN( an accomplished actress and director...she's done a few hollywood movies and she is DAMN good.) If you guys havent heard of Daniel Wu, he's an underling of Jackie Chan--he can FIGHT. and it doesn't hurt that he is tall and handsome...anyway. Jet Li rules. I've loved him since I first saw Fung Sai Yuk 1 and 2.I think its the best show Jet has ever made, and I hope he doesnt screw up his career by doing american movies... but Jet never screws up...(maybe he screws down, but that's another story...) I have to say. Jet is THE MAN. he's sexy, handsome, and well, short.=) music. may i introduce DAVID TAO...he was the guy who brought in R&B into chinese music, and his voice is pure heaven.SEXY. he is not very good-looking though. but charming.he writes, produces, sings, and plays his own music. is that like, TALENTED OR WHAT? he also used to write songs for LA boys...which means that his english is good.excellent.he also writes songs for other stars like zhang hui mei and tanya. i hope he does an english album soon, cos my chinese, i'll admit, isn't so hot.pai sey.not chin ho lah. trying to improve on my dialect... so anyway, hope you people will learn to love all these beautiful chinese people...COS THEY KICK ASS.BIG TIME.
Americans don't suck -- DUKE sucks. DUKE SUCKS BIG AMERICAN COC
by Scum Punch
Dec 11th, 1999
01:09:58 PM
1) Yes, I know that they are American productions. What FX is complaining about is American companies taking their post production work to Canada, or filming in Canada. Why? Because it's cheaper, that's why. Americans wouldn't have a problem competing with Canadians if they lowered the cost of using their over-rated, bolted-to-the-floor $500 000 Silicon Graphics machines. 2) Duke is a penis head. I spelt the word "whiney" as "whiny" and he jumps on it because he can't argue the issue that I raised. 3) YES, Micheal J. Fox is Canadian. And yes, Canada isn't exactly proud of it. But at least the first "Back to the Future movie" is good. And Duke neglected to mention any other great Canadian contributions to film -- Jim Carrey, Norman Jewison, David Cronenberg, "Spaz" Williams (He convinced Spielberg that dinosaurs CAN be created with computers), John K., Martin Short, John Candy, Mike Myers, Lorne Micheals ... well pretty much everything funny in America today was invented in Canada. With the exception of the Simpsons. That show kicks ass.
Scum Punch--At least he said American Cocks were big.
by Duke
Dec 12th, 1999
05:20:30 PM
Seriously, dude, lighten up. I was trying to inject some levity into your invective, however, it appears that it is impossible to do so. Yes, Canada has provided film and television with some pretty talented and funny people. Nonetheless, why do you have such an inferiority complex? You claim to be winning the "location war" and "job war" in film according to your statements, yet you seem so bitter. Sit back and enjoy, or is it a case of "methinks 'scumpunch' doth protest too much?"
Couldn't agree with you more, ManOwaR
by Duke
Dec 14th, 1999
08:56:19 AM
I'll buy the first round. Canadian beer of your choice and the second round of Shiner Bock is on you.
Drive & Bloodmoon
by Elcabio
Dec 15th, 1999
12:34:54 AM
I'm glad people recognize these direct to video martial arts gems. I also considered them the top 2 American made martial arts movies (Drive is #1 IMO) I find Drive funnier and funnier everytime I watch it. I had no idea that Mark Dacoscos could do those types of stunts. It just goes to show that it isn't as much the star that makes the movie, as it is the stunt choreographer, director, and editor. Chuck Norris could kick all our asses in half a second, but freakin Keannu blew away all his movies in the Matrix. Ever seen Cynthia Rothrock in a HK picture (ie. Yes Madame) compared to her American dreck? Anyone see Mark Dacoscos in Double Dragon (shiver shiver)? It's a real shame that Steve Wang and Alpha Stunts (the team behind Drive) have yet to reunite for any another projects. elcabio PS I will have to check out Superfights-> thanks for the word
Why productions are moving to Canada, etc...
by film-mkr
Dec 28th, 1999
07:16:13 AM
Let me point out the X-Files... The final episodes they shot in Vancouver cost about US$1 mil. each. The episodes shot in L.A. cost about US$3-4 mil. AND the quality has gone WAY down. And, you complain about productions moving out of the US. Wake up! This is a business.
Drive and Fist of Legend
by gargoile
Jan 6th, 2000
12:53:16 AM
I *love* Drive! But, not the version released in the US, the director's cut. Steve Wang's version is far superior to the US release. The winning combination of Scott Phillips, Steve Wang, and the awesome Mark Dacascos make this movie the *best* American martial arts flick ever done. Hope to see more from these three sometime in the future. I have to also add my agreement that Fist of Legend is a fantastic movie. Jet Li is a god - and Chin Siu-Ho ain't too shabby, either.
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