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The Irish Rican Takes On BOONDOCK SAINTS 2!!

Great News. Cant wait. by Knobules	Oct 22nd, 2009 09:33:59 AM
Thanks for the update. Have been waiting for this for a looong time.
I quite enjoy the first by slone13	Oct 22nd, 2009 09:37:24 AM
Sounds as if I will enjoy the second as well
Selma Hayek with a beard does not exist in this dojo... by FlickaPoo	Oct 22nd, 2009 09:39:46 AM
...apologies Cobra-Kai.
This movie... by Goochbag	Oct 22nd, 2009 09:40:11 AM
Does the price of admission include an Ed Hardy shirt?
...wrong talkback^ by FlickaPoo	Oct 22nd, 2009 09:40:24 AM

I'm in the minority by Papa Lazaru	Oct 22nd, 2009 09:40:42 AM
Because I'm one of the few who thought the original was just "okay" . Nothing special , but not God awful either . I did think the doc Overnight , was far more entertaining though .
Good to hear by MrPopular	Oct 22nd, 2009 09:44:55 AM
Sadly living in the Middle of Michigan, I have no idea when i'll actually get to see it, hopefully they amp up the theaters numbers quickly.
also by Papa Lazaru	Oct 22nd, 2009 09:56:14 AM
being an Irishman it's always hard for me to thoroughly enjoy a film when my accent is being butchered . Do Americans and Brits for that matter have the same problem when watching non-nationals take their accent on ? I suppose its more grating to me , as you don't see the Irish being portrayed in movies that often . In saying that . The Boondock Saints had far worse problems then dodgy accents.
More Love Equals More Hate. by SupermanIsMyGod	Oct 22nd, 2009 10:09:00 AM
Here's how I've discovered things work. I love Boondock, and have practically forced the film on everyone I know, and have made loyal fans of nearly all of them. But the movie got too big for its britches. It became too popular, can a film really be a "cult" film if everybody has seen it? Point being...it's cool to like something not many people know about, until it becomes popular and then the "cool" thing is to bash it.
SupermanIsMyGod by palooka_boy	Oct 22nd, 2009 10:15:22 AM
you hit the nail on the head. The bigger the secret, the cooler it is, and the bigger the backlash when it becomes popular. I remember going to see Napoleon Dynamite in its limited release and I loved it. A few months later it was out on DVD and everyone in my dorm was quoting it nonstop and I couldn't even watch it anymore. I still hate that movie now, but have a feeling I'd stlll love it if few others knew about it.
by SupermanIsMyGod	Oct 22nd, 2009 10:23:07 AM
That's the little known secret of geekdom. Whether or not the show actually got significantly worse, Battlestar Galactica was most popular in Season 1 when only hardcore sci fi fans watched it. Then the show blew up, and all of a sudden it wasn't as good anymore. Napoleon Dynamite is a GREAT example. I'll never watch that movie again and still barely a week goes by where I don't hear someone say "Your mom goes to college" or other such utterances. It's sad, really...like supporting a band you always loved, then they hit it big and you rail on and on about how they "sold out" .
Nice post Troy Duffy! by The Aquarian 1	Oct 22nd, 2009 10:23:19 AM
This is the most transparent fakery I've seen in a long time on this website. How FUCKING pathetic is it that Troy Duffy is posing as a former marine to review his own film? And who knows how many of these "SupermanIsMyGod" avatars are sock puppets. If you want to see Troy Duffy, which I wouldn't recommend doing, go see OVERNIGHT, that's all you need to know about Troy Duffy, Boondock Saints, and anything else connected with this guy.
Wow. What a great example of what i was talking about. by SupermanIsMyGod	Oct 22nd, 2009 10:29:34 AM
Sock puppet? I'm just a dude. I liked Overnight a lot, actually. Fascinating to watch him throw away his career. It seems accurate...me and my brother are both Boondock fanatics, but when we went to a One Night Only thing in theatres, we rolled our eyes when he referred to writing more movies as "Duffy's at the fuckin grill." He's a d-bag...but I love Boondock and am FURIOUS that the movie won't be within 1000 miles of me.
Superman and Palooka by Boris Karloff	Oct 22nd, 2009 10:36:50 AM
I actually think of things the other way around in regards to Boondock Saints. I think one of the main reasons people loved this movie so much was BECAUSE it was so "underground", rather than cinematical merit alone. Your post pretty much backs this up. I don't dislike the film because it's "cool" to do so, I dislike it because it's just not that good. It tries WAY too hard to be quirky... Dafoe's character is a cliche'd cartoon and kills the whole movie for me personally. Aside from that, I do agree it has some very fun and creative elements, but "cult" classic or not, I think it's HIGHLY overrated. Just my opinion.
Superman and Palooka by Boris Karloff	Oct 22nd, 2009 10:37:25 AM
I actually think of things the other way around in regards to Boondock Saints. I think one of the main reasons people loved this movie so much was BECAUSE it was so "underground", rather than cinematical merit alone. Your post pretty much backs this up. I don't dislike the film because it's "cool" to do so, I dislike it because it's just not that good. It tries WAY too hard to be quirky... Dafoe's character is a cliche'd cartoon and kills the whole movie for me personally. Aside from that, I do agree it has some very fun and creative elements, but "cult" classic or not, I think it's HIGHLY overrated. Just my opinion.
Damn double post... by Boris Karloff	Oct 22nd, 2009 10:38:04 AM
Sorry folks, slow fucking site.
Boondock Saints...0 out of 10 stars by Mr.Stiggs	Oct 22nd, 2009 10:39:02 AM
I certainly have my own share of films that I would deem “guilty pleasure”. But I really can’t understand the incomprehensible appreciation for the pompous piece of crap known as “The Boondock Saints”. This revenge fantasy is so poorly executed that it resembles a form of cinematic satire yet it is obviously too full of itself to even suggest that the filmmakers are that clever. Admittedly, my friends and I have watched segments of this film more than once but only to ridicule its ineptitude. Perhaps if I was an adolescent “wanna-be-gangsta” then I might fooled by its poorly executed slow-motion violence, cheap stereotypes, and pseudo-religious nonsense jargon. I implore any fan of this film to watch “Overnight” which documents the rise and fall (…and fall) of the talentless hack that wrote and directed this disaster.
too cool for cool by Tenenbaum	Oct 22nd, 2009 10:41:32 AM
The whole "band/film/thing I really like has gotten popular therefore it now sucks" thing bothers me. If a band you're a fan of becomes popular, isn't that a good thing? It shows the populace at large has some taste in music. Same thing with film or tv shows. It just goes to show that a lot of people only care that they're viewed as edgy or non-mainstream.
Tenenbaum read my mind by Bouncy X	Oct 22nd, 2009 10:54:12 AM
i personally am happy when a band/singer i like finally becomes huge. i mean sure its sorta fun being the only one knowing about a band but if i truly like them so much then of course i want success to come their way. i dont understand how it can be selling out to keep the career you love going. as for movies, i love them because i do...regardless how mainstream they are or not. i dont stop liking anything just because everyone else now likes it. actually i CANT...if you like a movie or a band then you do, if you can honestly say you dont like them anymore simply because everyone else does, then you obviously never really liked them to begin with. you just liked being one of the "cool" ones who knows a secret or whatever.
Karloff, Fair Point. by SupermanIsMyGod	Oct 22nd, 2009 10:54:45 AM
But I feel like the people who only like something because it's "underground" are the same people who turn on it when it becomes bigger. I love the religious aspect of the film, the funny dialogue, the interplay with Dafoe and the cops, the violence, all of it is just right in my wheelhouse. There are some fims I love that I get why others don't, but honestly, this isn't one of them. I'll defend the movie all day, but ultimately I'm not going to sway anybody who is convinced it sucks and who apparently hold viewing parties to laugh at it.
Superman by Boris Karloff	Oct 22nd, 2009 11:01:52 AM
I agree that people who only like something because it's a secret are the ones who usually turn on it when it grows... You've proclaimed yourself to be in this camp, with your Napoleon Dynamite example, no? In one breath you mention that you'll never watch Napoleon Dynamite again because it's become too popular, and then you go on to call that behavior "sad". I guess I'm confused as to your stance on the issue. :) That said, I acknowledge that your appreciation for Boondock is genuine.... Though I disagree that Boondock's problem was that it became "too popular".
Everything you need to know about Boondock Saints fans can be su by eatabagofdicks	Oct 22nd, 2009 11:04:58 AM
"It's one hell of a non-stop thrill ride that keeps you on the edge of your seat until the very last frame" Wow.
Never really did understand hating something for being popular by WickedJester	Oct 22nd, 2009 11:05:34 AM
Just like I never understood when a group of people decided to 'be different' by all dressing alike. Usually from a store like Hot Topic which is essentially Ambercrombie and Fitch for the 'anti' crowd. (Might even be owned by the same company.) Bottom line, no one is in the entertainment industry to do it for free, so if a band you enjoy makes it big, why not be happy they are making enough money to keep doing what they're doing? Hate to tell ya, but if a band or whatever stays low key too long, they'll more than likely have to find a REAL job.
It's strange but, by Joenathan	Oct 22nd, 2009 11:06:55 AM
fans of the first film seem to only fall into one out of two categories: Dumb girls or Douchebags.
But is Julie Benz gay? by Sawney Bean	Oct 22nd, 2009 11:10:26 AM
Julie Benz and her lesbian lover lay in bed together totally nude... Naked Girl 1: But I just want to cuddle. Julie Benz: FAG! Oh please God, PLEASE!
Joenathan by WickedJester	Oct 22nd, 2009 11:11:20 AM
Kinda like TBers
Guess That Was Murky by SupermanIsMyGod	Oct 22nd, 2009 11:11:23 AM
What I meant was when Napoleon Dynamite got huge, I couldn't get away from people quoting it, and that's how its popularity made me dislike it a little. I enjoyed The Hangover, but I liked it less when many friends of mine proclaimed it the funniest thing they had ever seen. That might have been a problem with Boondock too...when someone tells you "OMG U NEED 2C BOONDOCK SAINTS, IT IS TEH KOOLEST MOVIE EVER!!!!" it's easy to be let down.
Boondock Was Passable DTV Fair by FreeBeer	Oct 22nd, 2009 11:14:22 AM
But the steriotyping and the god awful accents bordered on offensive. Amazing a guy called Duffy wrote it you'd swear the creators only exposure to Irish culture was through Lucky Charms commercials and that clueless Far & Away movie.
I'm Irish Born And Bred By The Way by FreeBeer	Oct 22nd, 2009 11:15:37 AM
Case you think I'm talking out me arse!!
Boondock Saints seems by Madcapper	Oct 22nd, 2009 11:23:14 AM
to have many fans out there. In the literal sense of the word. Fanatics. People seems to either love it or hate it, like the reviewer points out. Seriously though, if you watch this, or any other movie for that matter, once every month for six long years, you might have some psychological issues that needs attention. Personally I had a good time with the first one, but it surely isn't the best film ever made. And if the sequel is the best action film of the year, that means knocking down District 9, Inglorious Basterds, Watchmen and Star Trek, among others. I hate to sound cynical, but I don't think so.
I like the movie! Glad to hear this sequel could be better! by Johnno	Oct 22nd, 2009 11:38:54 AM
I enjoyed it a lot. That said I'm not tattooing shit on my hands or even telling that many people about it or watching it every friggin' month, so do I fall into the 'okay' category? Or just the category that is labeled 'Sensible and resonable'? I don't understand how people can hate or like a movie based on its popularity... A good film is a good film and a shit film is a shit film to me, regardless of whether it's a cult hit or a mainstream sensation, or whether it moves from one end of the spectrum to another. I can understand getting worn out of watching a movie so many times or hearing people talk about it incessantly, but that has nothing to do with my initial impression of a movie when I see it.
I hate Boondock Saints by MC Murray B	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:03:14 PM
Not because it is popular, but because out of all of the mediocre Pulp Fiction rip offs that followed that film, Boondock is probably the 5th best one, but for some strange reason became by far the most popular and I would say most of its fans would put it ahead of Pulp Fiction, if they have even seen Pulp Fiction which many that I have met have actually not.
b.s. by mcdowell_32000	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:05:35 PM
first movie was a guy ritchie retread - talkin' loud but ain't sayin' nothing. kudos to those that suggested overnight was better.
People who think that the first Boondock has... by JustinSane	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:06:04 PM
...any cinematic merit must be out of their minds. Nothing about the film is exceptional (except perhaps Dafoe, but that guy can devour scenes in the worst of films), and, in fact, the dialogue, direction and particularly the editing are all horrendous - the opening credits must have been cut by one of Duffy's drunken bar pals after an all-night bender. The fact that OVERNIGHT highlights what an untalented douche Duffy is is the icing on the cake. Oh, and will we be getting another soundtrack for this film by The Brood that sells 700 copies? Fuck you, Boondock Saints - and your sequel, too.
FUCK THIS GARBAGE. by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:15:07 PM
and fuck this review. the guy watches the original movie once a month? what a fucking numbskull. and he even said troy duffy's band had an amazing debut album? you have to be KIDDING me.
To Concur and Disagree by PsimonSez	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:15:42 PM
FreeBeer - You had me laughing with your Far and Away comment! Madcapper - You also beat me to the post when I was going to comment on Irish Rican's ridiculous claim of "best action movie this year" when we had some great contenders like the ones you originally identified. I am in the camp that Rican identified that feels that Booncock Taints is execrable celluloid. It amazes me to think that the spectrum for this movie is so wide that I can actually sit on one end and spit vitriolic like I had Tourettes and Rican and the other Duffyians can sit on the far off opposite, wouldn’t-be-able-to-see-even -with-the-Hubble-Telescope end and lucidly call the film a huge success and a "new career starter" for Duffy.
keep calling us elitists, boondock fans. by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:24:53 PM
because that's the only defense that can be rendered for this drivel. i've never met a single person who could defend boondock saints on its actual merits, they just accuse you of going against the crowd for the sake of being different. how misguided could you be? i mean, if that were truly the case, then we'd all hate the godfather and raging bull as well, because they are two of the most heavily-hyped movies ever made. but no... those films don't see a backlash... BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY THAT FUCKING GOOD.
Boondock Saints=College Embarrassment by reflecto	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:37:34 PM
One of the worst films ever made that for five mins, everyone in your college dorm thinks is awesome.
How does Judd Nelson not get a credit in the trailer... by Royston Lodge	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:39:09 PM
...but Peter Fonda does?
from the people who told you DANE COOK was funny... by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:42:29 PM
here's the boondock saints!
To All Movie Critics... by JMike65	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:43:05 PM
I love the anticipation for upcoming movies. The two I anticipated most in my life was Rocky Balboa & The Dark Knight. Before they were released I read reviews on both of them. Both had great reviews and both had bad reviews. (After seeing it, couldn't believe Dark Knight got any bad ones). I ended up loving both movies. Now not just because of those examples, I have completely disregarded all movie reviews from here on out. I know that when the Boondock sequal comes out I'm going to like it, unless something so crazy out of the ordinary happens. I go to A LOT of movies and I don't care for movie reviews much anymore. If you go to a lot of movies check out the link below... http://www.mediancs.com/rd_p?s kipRedirect=1&p=192462&t=9534& a=25081-antcol&c=&gift=27203
well if you loved rocky balboa, by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:44:40 PM
i imagine you'll love this, too.
JMike.. by Madcapper	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:52:37 PM
If you don't care much for reviews, that's understandable. How you magically manage to look into the future, and know that you will like All Saints Day is not quite as easy to comprehend. Unless, of course, you just decide beforehand which movies you are going to like or not..
... by Madcapper	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:54:21 PM
but that would be quite strange, wouldn't you agree?
DING DING DING DING by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:54:28 PM

Reflecto, RedHorse... by JoseJones	Oct 22nd, 2009 12:56:15 PM
so true. i have always associated college meatsticks with fanatical love of both Saints and Dane Cook. One and the same.
i just made up a boondock saints drinking game. by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:02:48 PM
every time you see an obvious cliche or an imitation of something tarantino had already done, take a shot. every time one of the leads butchers his intended accent, take a sip of beer. oh, and make sure to keep a friend handy to pump your stomach around the beginning of the second act.
Yes, because Tarantino is SO original. by SupermanIsMyGod	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:18:42 PM
Quick disclaimer: I adore Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill 1+2, and have failed by not seeing Inglorious yet. You can't bash Boondock Saints for doing what Tarantino does, when EVERYTHING QT does he took from someone else. Homage, not theft? Sure. But don't act like he's an original filmmaker.
I actually don't like the Godfather films by Chakraborty	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:20:35 PM
Not a fan. I can see the craft and skill that went into making them, but I don't find them entertaining.
tarantino does homages, clearly and directly. by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:35:39 PM
i never said he was some sort of pinnacle of originality, either. all i said was that troy duffy tried to imitate quentin, which is obvious to pretty much anyone. even if you choose to peg quentin up-and-down as an imitator himself (i wouldn't), that would still make troy duffy a copy of an imitation. the dialogue scenes in boondock saints that go for the same "tossed off" hip style of pulp fiction or jackie brown are EMBARRASSINGLY BAD.
This fake review is genius by Stabby	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:38:47 PM
By making this guy military and therefore a patriot and American hero everyone is holding back from calling him a plant, because they don't want to offend.
Chakraborty, go join Lockesbrokenleg in the by Stabby	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:40:04 PM
contrarians corner.
Irish Rican has posted plenty of times. by JediRob	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:42:05 PM
So "plant" is silly.
Maybe I'm Retarded... by The Chalk Outline	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:43:49 PM
But I've always hated Pulp Fiction. I never understood what the big deal was and the only enjoyment I got out of it were the scenes with Sam Jackson. In my experience, the vast majority of folks that love Pulp Fiction are those that watched it before any other QT film (written or directed). I really liked Reservior Dogs and True Romance is my favourite of anything QT has been involved with. I saw both before Pulp Fiction and in turn, maybe that's why I just didn't give a shit about it. The plot just wasn't as interesting and I didn't care about any of the fucking characters. Now, as for Boondock Saints, I really enjoyed it. I don't regard it as his holy fucking movie of epic proportions like the majority of its fans, but it was very entertaining for what it was. The scenes with Dafoe describing what happened were great, I dug most of the characters, and the story was pretty cool. Is it "technically" superior to Pulp Fiction? Probably not, but who the fuck cares? It was more enjoyable to watch in my opinion and that's all that matter. Finally, because someone else mentioned it, I didn't like The Godfather either. I just remember being utterly bored while watching it and no, I've never gave it a second chance. The Godfather Part II however, now that was awesome. Really liked it. Part III I've never watched and probably never will. P.S. I expect most of these comments to get me bashed. Don't care and I don't post often enough to give a shit anyway, just felt like sharing my opinion today.
at least you recognize that your opinion is bash-worthy. by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:46:13 PM
i won't rake you over the coals.
There are some people who are contrarian by Chakraborty	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:46:14 PM
And then there are some people who are so obnoxious that they believe that anyone who doesn't like all the same movies they like must be doing so in order to be contrarian. Those are two separate extremes of the douchebag pole.
Put me down in that small "It's okay" group... by HarryCalder	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:50:50 PM
Sure, it's a Tarantino movie-wanna be, but I was mildly entertained by BS. Helped that I was kind of drunk. I think. Or maybe I just don't remember it that well because it's not that memorable. Anyway, "Overnight," now THERE'S an interesting doc. Gotta give Troy credit for actually getting a sequel made after hitting rock-fucking-bottom. I just hope there's an "Overnight" sequel so we can see if he's become an even bigger tool, or if he's a completely humbled man.
JediRob, that doesn't mean he's not a plant by Stabby	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:50:56 PM
I'd have to read some of his other posts to see if they come off as studio promotional as this one does. He could be a industry insider and this is why he gets to see these movies early and why he's posting to a site like this.
Chakra by Stabby	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:52:15 PM
At least you admit that you are on one end of that douchebag pole. That's mighty big of you.
Metallica is a perfect example of completely by THEoverfiend	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:57:27 PM
sucking after getting "popular". once they went "mainstream" by makind videos for MTV their music totally changed for the much worse to retain that mainstream cashflow
Nah, I'm in the middle by Chakraborty	Oct 22nd, 2009 01:58:40 PM
I like what I like, and I don't jump in line and claim to like movies because other people claim I should and I'm afraid I'll lose cool points or be characterized for this or that for it. But some people feel threatened when other people's movie tastes don't coincide with their own, because they fear the tides of public opinion will turn, and that they will be left out in the cold not sure what to like or dislike...therefore they must cast judgment on all those who do not to like what others have ordained to be great films. Conformists and contrarians are natural enemies.
Oh, Overnight Was Awesome BTW by The Chalk Outline	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:00:39 PM
Forgot to add that. Definitely better than Boondock Saints.
Boondock Saints was garbage by ebonic_plague	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:01:08 PM
Just, like, my opinion, man. But when I got to the end scene where Billy Connoly and whoever he was fighting were standing five feet apart emptying entire clips at each other in slo-mo without hitting anything, it had cemented itself firmly on the list of the most ridiculously stupid movies I'd ever been suckered into watching. But then, the inclusion of Clifton Collins Jr. can redeem almost anything, so maybe this will be acceptable as dumb popcorn fun.
"It's one hell of a non-stop thrill ride" by MattmanBegins	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:01:53 PM
I don't like to scream PLANT but... this one is hard to ignore.
The Chalk Outline by MattmanBegins	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:05:03 PM
True Romance gets better every time I watch it. The scene between Walken and Hopper may be the best scene Tarantino has written.
you captured perfecly how i felt about it, ebonic. by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:13:11 PM
i think i hate it so much not because it's stupid, but because of how BOLDLY and AGGRESSIVELY stupid it is, like the limp bizkit of independent film. and in such a stupid movie, the shootout scene with billy connolly was like troy duffy's retarded coup-de-grace.
I'm in the "okay" group by spectrebeeyatch	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:24:48 PM
Seen the movie once maybe twice. It was okay. I'll the second one. That is all.
Overnight is an horror movie by AsimovLives	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:27:37 PM
Yeah, it's a documentary, but i rate it as a horror movie. The horror of falling into hubris and complete self-denial, while at the brick of greatness. The horror story of a guy who was given the keys to the kingdom, and how he did everything to piss off all the rare great oportunities thrown at him. And most of it, it was his doing. Trulyl, any wannabe filmmakers who wants to go to Hollywood, they should watch the movie and learn a great lesson. The lesson of things not to do.
I'm in the OK group too by AsimovLives	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:30:14 PM
Me and my friends we klaugh our heads off when we first watched it. But afterwards, it was a "it's just an ok movie, nothing much". I can understand why the movie is such a hit to some and became a cult, but i also understand why some hate it with a passion. And i sit inbetween. I do like the ending of the movie, with the average citizen saying to the camera their thoughs on the actions of the Brothers, and how interesting that the movie ends with the most critical voice.
"The limp bizkit of independant film" by ebonic_plague	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:34:00 PM
Pretty damn apt, RHV. To be honest I've forgotten a lot of what irritated me about that movie, but I remember thinking that the idiot third-wheel sidekick to the two brothers/cousins/vigilantes was a good representation of the film as a whole and why it sucked. Whacking one bad guy worked out for them, so hey, "let's kill everybody!" One ridiculous shoot-out worked, so let's make ALL of the shoot-outs into ridiculously over-stylized music-video outtakes! Dafoe is good playing unique characters in other movies, so let's make him a ridiculous caricature of a gay detective and turn the scenery chewing up to 11! And so on. But in the interest of fairness and objectivity, the movie DID make me want to go out and get a black navy pea coat. So there's that.
Wait... by The Chalk Outline	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:36:33 PM
People hate Boondock Saints because it lacked realism? And the shootout near the end put it over the top? Did you miss the scene where he jumps off the building right on top of a guy? Or accidentally falling through a ceiling to kill everyone? Jesus Christ, I don't think even Duffy was stupid enough to think he was going for realism with this film. If anything the action scenes in this were only slightly less over-the-top than those in Shoot 'Em Up and should be treated as such. Just because Duffy stole some elements from Quentin Tarantino films doesn't mean he wanted EVERYTHING to be like a Quentin Tarantino film. At least I hope not, otherwise he's even more delusional than the documentary makes him out to be.
There's my other favorite contrarian, AsimovLives by Stabby	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:43:47 PM
Yo Asi! Overnight is more of cautionary tale than a Horror film. If it is horror then all the horror is provided by Troy Duffy himself.
wow, asimov finds boondock saints passable... by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:50:03 PM
but star trek '09 warrants MONTHS of endless ranting and raving? i always suspected he was a fanboy with major perspective issues, but the proof is in the pudding.
Sweet! by Charlie_Allnut	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:50:55 PM
I had the feeling that this could end up badly, but now my hopes have been raised! Got my fingers crossed that this is going to be good!
Charlie by Stabby	Oct 22nd, 2009 02:59:17 PM
I really hope you take this review with a grain of salt.
So, Asi, would you say... by ebonic_plague	Oct 22nd, 2009 03:00:29 PM
...that Boondock Saints was a "fun" movie? Because if I didn't know any better, I'd say that might be the case.
Stabby by AsimovLives	Oct 22nd, 2009 03:34:00 PM
"If it is horror then all the horror is provided by Troy Duffy himself." My point exactly. Only you said it more suscintly. Good job. One could say Overnight is a cautionary tale where the cautionary comes as a horror story. The type of horror that only real life provides.
ebonic_plague by AsimovLives	Oct 22nd, 2009 03:36:21 PM
I'm going to admit that i might have liked the movie better when i first saw it. But now, i can't deny that the bashing it gets has given me pause to reconsider my first more positive opinion of it. but then again, i first saw it in optimum conditions, with my best friends, we were in a very festive mood, and we laughed out asses off because the movie. The Coca Cola joke in particular and the shooting of the cat had us fall to the floor laughing.
RedHorseVector by AsimovLives	Oct 22nd, 2009 03:39:31 PM
Your pudding is fucking rotten. And i could spend months listing and descrivbing the shit in Skank Trek, and it would still be incomplete. Boondock Saitns fails because the directro seems to not know if to condemn or uphold the Brothers's actions. But it does have a vision to it, for good or ill. The over-bloated abortion Star-Trek-In-Name-Only has shit. You know what i say? I rather have an interesting failure then a sucessful mediocrity.
Boondock Saints is one of the rare movies where by AsimovLives	Oct 22nd, 2009 03:40:59 PM
my first impression has been changed due to other's opinions. In this movie's case, i'm not too sure anymore. For caution sake, i rate this "an interesting failure".
MattmanBegins by AsimovLives	Oct 22nd, 2009 03:42:56 PM
"The scene between Walken and Hopper may be the best scene Tarantino has written." But then again, consider the actors who play that scene.
here's the scene which made asimov "fall to the floor laughing": by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 03:43:25 PM
Yakavetta: I'm having a shitty day. I'm depressed. Tell me a funny joke. Rocco: Now? A joke? Uh... um, uh... A joke. Yeah, alright. Um... There's these, uh, three guys, uh... a-a-a-a spic, a-a-a-a white guy and a black guy. Yakavetta: Nigger. Rocco: Yeah, n-n- Yeah. And-and they walk along the beach, they see this pot, they rub it, genie comes out. Genie says, you know, "You wish for anything you want." So, he asks, uh-uh, Mexican what-what he wants, and he goes, uh, uh, "I want, uh, all my people in America to be happy and free and in Mexico." And so, genie - Poof! And, all the spics are in Mexico. And then he asks the black guy... Vincenzo Lipazzi: Nigger. Rocco: Yeah, that's what I said. Goes to the, uh- uh, nigger, says, uh, "What do you want?" And he goes, um, uh, "I want all my African- my nigger brothers in America to be back in Africa and-and happy and everything." You know? So, genie goes poof! And, um, all the niggers in America are in Africa. And, uh, uh, uh, this is go- I'm not funny today. I-I know. I'm havin' a hard day. I-I-I- This joke sucks. It's-it's-it's a stupid joke. Yakavetta: Continue the joke. Rocco: So the genie says to the white guy, uh, um, "What's your one wish?" And the white guy goes, "You mean to tell me all the niggers and spics are out of America?" Genie goes, "Yeah." He says, "Well, um, I'll have a Coke, then." uh... yeah. the writing is FANTASTIC but ultimately it's RON JEREMY'S comedic performance that really makes this scene such a gem.
i think ron played flunky #2 in that scene. by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 03:51:42 PM
it was such a memorable fan favorite, however, i heard that troy duffy brought the character back for a dream sequence in the new film. and i'm not even joking!
That "Rocco" guy could not die fast enough by reflecto	Oct 22nd, 2009 04:09:00 PM
Duffy, like all Tarantino imitators, chooses to caricaturize and whore out certain socioethnic groups he knows little about - Irish Catholics, Italians, etc. - to create the illusion of gritty authenticity, in order to sell an ersatz package to a gullible audience. Same thing was done in old Hollywood with white folks playing Hispanics or black characters for cheap little "poor city folk" melodramas. Unfortunately, old masters like Scorsese, who have turned a bit desperate in their old age, have picked up this habit too - Scorsese is now imitating people like Duffy imitating Tarantino imitating Marty himself, doing a cheap remake of Infernal Affairs with The Departed, going the easy route of using yet another gritty, hyper-religious ethnic group - Irish Catholics, just like Boondock Saints. "Oh it's hardcore because there's 'Southies' and Irish and quote the Bible while killing and shit." Who gives a fuck. It was like watching Sean Patrick Flanery and Norman Reedus play dress-up with those chintzy accents. It was kid's games and the film was cut and shot like a 14-yo on Red Bull made it. At least Quentin is still breaking new ground with something like Basterds, which I did not think he had in him.
Is it as rampantly homoerotic as the original? by Laserhead	Oct 22nd, 2009 04:14:41 PM
Laughed my ass off at the slow-motion passion of the brothers when one pulls a bullet out the other, from behind.
AsimovLives by the_shogun_gunslinger	Oct 22nd, 2009 04:15:29 PM
wow, you REALLY have a soft spot for scenes involving 2 characters throwing racial slurs at each other. Fuck Boondock Saints and fuck Duffy.
Sounds like Troy wrote this review himself. by Series7	Oct 22nd, 2009 04:18:19 PM

Overnight is not as good as everyone says it is by Series7	Oct 22nd, 2009 04:22:05 PM
You can pretty much read about it and get the point. I mean its not as bad as Man on A Wire. But unless you want to see Troy be a dick for an hour and a half just read about it.
To everyone who has seen Overnight, this movie is hilarious by liesandpicturesofalsolies	Oct 22nd, 2009 04:22:16 PM
How does it take someone 10 years to get a sequel greenlit to a giant cult hit? Oh yeah, you be a giant asshole.
The problem isn't the people... by Chakraborty	Oct 22nd, 2009 04:22:18 PM
...who hate or love this movie. They both have legitimate reasons. The problem is people who hate people for hating or loving this movie. Also, if you loved this movie when it first came out, but then hated it when it became popular, it means you're a phony who tries to convince people you're cool and unique by your taste in movies, music, etc. If you legitimately loved the movie, then your motive for sharing it with others would have been to spread the love for this film so that similar films could be made, and you would be happy that a sequel is made. Otherwise, you're just mad because you can't use this movie to seem cool because liking it is no longer cool...and you have to search for the next trendy thing before it becomes trendy...to convince people you're something you're not. Ultimately, the film is mediocre....with moments that are some moments which are good, and other that are awful...IMO.
Also, this review is worthless. by liesandpicturesofalsolies	Oct 22nd, 2009 04:23:04 PM
I call plant.
Also I fall into the OK group by Series7	Oct 22nd, 2009 04:23:21 PM
I saw it, I liked it I don't remember it. Not bring Defoe back (unless he died in the first one?) sucks. I'll catch this. My wife liked the first one, we bought it like 3 years ago and it still sits in plastic wrap unopened.
Please let Julie Benz's film career take off by mcr29	Oct 22nd, 2009 04:28:10 PM
So she can get the fuck off Dexter.
Dexter is a great show. by SupermanIsMyGod	Oct 22nd, 2009 04:51:31 PM
Bite your tongue. So now Boondock Saints AND Dexter both suck? I remember now why I never post here. Is it fun to hate everything?
No no by mcr29	Oct 22nd, 2009 05:24:03 PM
I love Dexter, I can't stand her character.
Chakra I concur by PsimonSez	Oct 22nd, 2009 05:48:42 PM
The true nonsense is not the fact that you like the movie and I despise it. It is that people seem to hate either you or me for being in either of the two camps which then devolves the entire scene into feces throwing monkey territory. Which I think it saved for Transformer 2 fans. KIDDING! Seriously though. People have opinions and that is all they are. I hate this flick and the dick that made it (thanks Overnight) but I don't hate a cat that likes (or even loves) the movie. Why should I? Unfortunately, like many people have commented already on this board, this movie falls into the polarization camp model. Just like the recent Paranormal Activity. I have read some comments of people having to burn the shartings from their BVD's while others find 95% of the flick laughable. One thing can be said about these movies, they do generate the postings.
oh no, asimov never came back. by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 05:56:10 PM
i took a nap, hoping he'd come back and explain the humor of his favorite scene. oh well.
In Duffy's defense chews nails nervously by MacReady452	Oct 22nd, 2009 05:59:46 PM
I think this movie works if you stumble upon it but not if it has been over-hyped by a friend. It also won’t work if you see Overnight before Boondock Saints. People who think this movie is brilliant are a little “off”. That said I will try the seemingly impossible task of justifying the merits of this film. First and easily enough I think if you are an Irish/Catholic with a brother from Boston this movie speaks. Hell if you are 2 out of 3 of these they hooked you in. Obviously if you are an only child in a Jewish family from New York you probably are ingrained with a hatred of this movie. Second there are some good scenes and lines in the movie. Personally I like the shot glasses to the knees and (God help me) the toilet and the Flannery off the roof. I would say “the cat” is a rip from “the head” in Pulp Fiction but aside from them both being “accidents” that is where they part ways. Rocco’s tirade to his girlfriend as a result is also great. The….”I can’t go get a pack of smokes without running into 10 guys you fucked…” Come on. That’s not funny? If you are gonna hit me with slow-mo and timeline shifting then I say, “I doubt it was Duffy”. It was the style of editing and storytelling at the time and he probably never thought of it that way. I would say the film is the victim of a studio editor (I might be wrong here). Ok. Is this a great movie? No. Is it fun? Yeah. This was an Independent movie when that really meant independent. I hadn’t seen Overnight until I read the enormous backlash here and I’ll admit I liked, NOT LOVED, Boondock Saints. I thought Overnight was a great look at how Hollywood can chew up and spit out a flavor of the month and not give one shit. In fact it made me hate Harvey Weinstein. “Yeah here is a bar for you and I’ll just take your script and drag my feet on production and have my people stop talking to you and crush your shitty little dream.” Duffy came off like an asshole, sure. They are a dime a dozen in Hollywood. He had a lot of people with their hand out (band, doc, friends). I don’t think people understand what this kind of pressure can do to a person. You have to have a huge ego to go from bartender to negotiations with Miramax and the film wouldn’t have happened without that ego (good or bad). It is the nature of art (or what you would consider art) that you are taking something personal and giving it to the world. To have someone like Harvey fuck with your dream would make anyone insane. If you haven’t set foot on a film set or never tried to create something then you wouldn’t understand the pressure and the dream. I personally tried to make my own shit college film and then moved on to work on (as a PA) an Independent film that will never go anywhere, short films and commercials. It’s a fucked up biz and Overnight reminded me of just how fucked up. FUCK I SPENT WAY TO LONG DEFENDING AN AVERAGE MOVIE. I just don’t understand the polarized love/hate.
well mac, couple things here. by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 06:26:26 PM
i've grown up 10 minutes from boston my entire life. not one aspect of boston nor its irish/catholic population is portrayed accurately in boondock saints. if it speaks to people in my area, it's because they're titillated by the notion that somewhere in THEIR HOME TOWN, a bunch of over-the-top racial stereotypes are blowing each other away in slow-motion. they're not reacting to the inherent "boston-ness" of the flick - as a matter of fact, it was shot in canada and it REALLY shows. so i really have to disagree with that point. i also have to disagree with your appraisal of the film's dialogue. not only do i find the entire screenplay to be badly written, you actually picked one of the lines that i find most cloying as your example of the film's humor. oh well. all that aside, i like the fact that you recognized the "shooting the cat" scene as a thinly veiled imitation of the "marvin" sequence from pulp fiction. that's one thing we can definitely agree on.
With regards to the Godfather.... by Chakraborty	Oct 22nd, 2009 06:28:33 PM
...I think part of the reason it never really appealed to me is because I'm Canadian, but that's only part of the equation because many Canadians love it. BUT, there is a male phenomenon in America whereby most males feel that in order to be more masculine, they have to emulate and idolize gangsters. That's the case with black (and other ethnic) males today with regards to gangster rap, and that's the case with white males and the Godfather films. It's this American male notion of how being more gangster equates to greater masculinity. The Godfather films were boring to me, though technically well made, and I always considered gangsters to be scumbags. That's why when I first saw Boondock Saints it had a certain appeal to me, because they were slaughtering gangsters...the American icons of masculinity and douchebaggery.
I saw it AFTER I saw Overnight... by quantize	Oct 22nd, 2009 06:31:28 PM
and holy shit, Boondock Saints is easily the most self conscious mess of gibberish and hammy acting, shitty dialog and bad acting I've ever had the misfortune to witness. It was WORSE than i expected after seeing Overnight..I can completely understand why anyone would loathe people who like this film..its depressingly awful.
in Duffy's defense? by meximedia	Oct 22nd, 2009 06:35:07 PM
Look, the first film was good, and after watching Overnight I was amazed the movie turned out so good with all the other crap going on. What I completely disagree with, is saying Duffy was shit on by the Hollywood system. No matter what you do or where you do it, you can't go around burning bridges and letting your ego run amok. You can be assertive and confident and not be a total douche-bag. How you react to pressure dictates the kind of person you are. And you can clearly see in the movie that a little fame got to him. Look, i'm not trying to be a hater, he was young then and I actually commend the guy for getting his movie made despite his past troubles. I look forward to checking this out.
'i could spend months listing and descrivbing the shit in Skank by quantize	Oct 22nd, 2009 06:35:24 PM
you already have you dickwad
i think you're way off base, chakra. by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 06:38:06 PM
the godfather is not even close to a glamorization of the mafia. retarded wannabes may revere it as a cornerstone of tough-guy cinema, but if they watch it for yuks like many people do scarface, they are missing the entire point of the flicks (much like they did with the sopranos on HBO, but that's a discussion for another day). the godfather parts I & II are about the corruptibility of humanity, and how the most innocent member of the family is transformed by circumstance into a monster. there is no male wish-fulfillment fantasy in the godfather films... coincidentally enough, that's what boondock saints is all about, however.
Sadly, RedHorseVector... by Chakraborty	Oct 22nd, 2009 06:43:20 PM
...many Godfather fans associate those films with a certain bravado and cool factor. "Never go against the family, Vito," is a favorite quote amongst douchebags. I kid...sort of. Even though the film isn't meant to glamorize gangster life...that's why many people love those films. I think Scarface is a great film, like you said. But far too many douchebags have Scarface posters and T-shirts because they think that Tony Montana was the epitome of cool rather than a tragic figure.
I always felt the Godfather was a family movie by MacReady452	Oct 22nd, 2009 06:47:02 PM
It is about a family. A patriarch and a son forced to care for his family and assume the responsibilities his father worked years to put into place. I also always felt the "gangster" mentallity or the attraction of it was not so much due to the violence or the machismo but the idea of "success at all costs". Rappers and the like identify with Tony Montana because he came from nothing to become rich and powerful. Nevermind the fact that he is gunned down for being a fuckin asshole. Same with Vito.
you're completely right. by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 06:48:12 PM
but the fact remains that they are dreadfully misreading the message of the films.
Oh hell yeah! by MacReady452	Oct 22nd, 2009 06:51:17 PM
Success at all costs is the worst kind of misread message to take from these films. They are brutally murdered. People take what they want and forget the rest.
Mac I see some of your points... by PsimonSez	Oct 22nd, 2009 06:56:28 PM
But it makes you sound almost like an apologist for the douchebaggery that Duffy portrayed in Overnight. He exuded all of the asshat'edness when Harvey was showing him love. When Goldblum, Modine and Walhberg were having drinks with him in the bar. When he thought my man Ewan was going to be down with his ass. He was a jackass from the beginning. Just like the Goldman quote at the end - fame has a way of amplifying character traits that were always there. He treated his friends his family, everyone like utter shit. He deserved nothing. I am surprised you see anything other than that to be honest after watching him wear his true self on his sleeve. There is this great interview with the directors of the docu on this site and I would link if the search engine did not suck harder than Duffy but alas, it does. They go into other things about the flick. A good read.
Macready by Chakraborty	Oct 22nd, 2009 06:57:03 PM
"Success from nothing". You're right...those films, both Scarface and the Godfather, represent people achieving the American Dream. But they do it through blood, and at any cost, like you said. That represents all that's wrong with America, and how people screw each other over and think it's right. While Tony Montana (and Vito) were gunned down, Michael Corleone, the Godfather protagonist, was not. (Not sure about Godfather 3, never saw it). Overall, the Godfather films bored me, but I truly disliked the protagonists of those films, and they never really got their come uppance the way Tony Montana did, and so I didn't feel the pay off for characters who were reprehensible, in my opinion, even though they were films about family. And the rappers who idolize Tony Montana are often involved in criminal activities themselves.
PsimonSez by MacReady452	Oct 22nd, 2009 07:08:10 PM
The one thing that stuck out for me in Overnight was the woman(I forget her name) that was supposedly the studio contact that seemingly was MIA because she didn't like Duffy (I don't blame her). That really seemed to be the turning point of the whole movie. Because I was aware that he was going to become an epic asshole somewhere along the way in the doc I was intently watching waiting for that moment and when he couldn't get her on the line he flipped and it was all down hill. I am not trying to be an apologist just trying to see it both ways cause really we only get a negatively themed "doc". Lets be real this is as much of a "doc" as a Micheal Moore movie. Clear agenda. After the dust settles and we see the finished product knowing all of this it is a minor fuckin miracle that movie ever came out. The smallest amount of credit. Maybe?
Great movie by THEDARKKNIGHTDETECTIVE	Oct 22nd, 2009 07:12:40 PM
The 2 funniest parts: 1) Willem Dafoe's Paul Smecker: "Cuddle? What a fag" after sleeping with his male lover who wants to cuddle. 2) Rocco: "Is it dead?" after banging the table setting off the gun which shoots the pet cat and spatters blood all over the wall. (watch it in slow mo the cat dummy splits in half.
Chakraborty by MacReady452	Oct 22nd, 2009 07:12:55 PM
I agree about the Godfather films just being dull for the most part. It just never drew me into that world. I appreciate them on certain levels but I never find myself saying, " I feel like watching the Godfather." Certainly a movie like To Kill A Mockingbird is much more in line with what I prefer to see as the American attitude. Atticus not the incest rape.
THERE WAS A FIREFIIIIGHT!!!!!!!! by Raymar	Oct 22nd, 2009 07:31:27 PM

Godfather by Shubniggorath	Oct 22nd, 2009 07:32:57 PM
Michael's daughter gets gunned down in his place and he dies alone of old age. Unfortunately Coppola's daughter was so bad an actress I cheered a little when she was killed...
Boondock Saints = kewl by 5 by 5	Oct 22nd, 2009 07:36:31 PM
I'm looking forward to the sequel.
Raymar by MacReady452	Oct 22nd, 2009 07:40:24 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahha
You know what I'd never like to see? by CherikeeRed	Oct 22nd, 2009 07:50:38 PM
Anything, anything at all, crafted by a grown man who chooses to wear overalls publicly.
why no Dafoe? by rodneyfaile	Oct 22nd, 2009 07:53:16 PM
I think it can still be good without him, but I wiash he were in it.
Saints 3: Saint Nicholas by rodneyfaile	Oct 22nd, 2009 07:57:42 PM
He's makin a list and checkin it twice .... and packin 2 glocks for the naughty.
saints 4: when the saints come marching in by RedHorseVector	Oct 22nd, 2009 08:23:17 PM

If a 14 year old saw a Tarantino flick and a John Woo flick and by Havok2000	Oct 22nd, 2009 08:32:57 PM
you'd have "Boondock Saints" ... and you do!
This film should play on DoucheTV by Havok2000	Oct 22nd, 2009 08:35:08 PM
as often as "Not Without My Daughter" plays on Lifetime.
that was funny, funny, FUNNY! by mamasam	Oct 22nd, 2009 08:48:50 PM
3rd funniest part DARKKNIGHTDETECTIVE: dafoe just plain old showing up in drag, and the mob goon not knowing!?! who could EVER think he was a female! ew, ew and ick!!!
Saints 5, New Orleans Saints: Port of Call by MacReady452	Oct 22nd, 2009 08:53:12 PM

Best scene in BOONDOCK SAINTS by Nachokoolaid	Oct 23rd, 2009 12:38:19 AM
Was after the shoot out and Rocco is all amped up and shit. The guys are like, "Rocco, you need to calm down." And Rocco's delivery on the response is classic. He says, "NO, YOU GUYS BETTER START GETTING FUCKING EXCITED." Always made me laugh.
Boondock Saints is fecking garbage... by shonin	Oct 23rd, 2009 05:01:57 AM
... pure and simple. If it was just bad and made for a few thousand dollars then it might have been bad-funny. However, far too much rope was handed to Durrhffy and his twat pals and the outcome is one of the most overrated pieces of crap I've ever seen. Reading the testimony from die hard fans of Booncock Taints I can only come to the conclusion that they are 12 year old boys that haven't watched any other movies, or just complete cunts.
the_shogun_gunslinger by AsimovLives	Oct 23rd, 2009 07:03:24 AM
You forgot that i also laughed at a scene involving the gratitious shooting of a pet.
quantize by AsimovLives	Oct 23rd, 2009 07:09:27 AM
And 90% of the shit is still to be said. Tip of the iceberg only so far.
Chakraborty by AsimovLives	Oct 23rd, 2009 07:20:19 AM
In Godfather 2, Michael gets his comeuppence. But it's a moral one. and he gets it because be betrayed his own kin, by having his brother killed when he pretended he had make peace. I guess many would prefer a real phyisical comeuppence for Michael Corleone, like being arrested or killed. but that's not the point of the movie. The point of the movie is that to reach the heights he gets, he has to sacrifice everything. EVERYTHING. When i see that movie, i see the making of a monster, and in that last famous shot, michael ceased to be human, he's now a complete monster. His father, Vito Corleone, never fell as low because he still had one human element to him: his family, he was truly devoted to it. Michael even loses that. One of the reasons i don't happen to think of Godfather 3 as true part of the other two is the theme of redemption. I think michael Corleone should had never got redemption. He ends the second mvoie compeltly moraly bankrupt. That is his character's punishment and hell: he lost all humanity. Atempting to redemn him seems more like a case of a filmamker who fell too much inlove with a character, and it betrays the spirit of Godfather 2. And not even the death of his daughter would be punishment enough. And this is what i love about Godfather Part II: that it has the integrity to show that this evil bastards most of the time they are never caught and get scott free on their crimes, but they end up alone, completly alone. Sucess at any cost, Godfather Part II is a great example of what it really entails. And the american Dream was not corrupted by the immigrant gangsters, it had already been corrupted many many decades before in the old west.
I don't think anyone considers Godfather 3 canon by Stabby	Oct 23rd, 2009 09:56:47 AM
Even Francis Ford Coppola.
the last shot of godfather 2 is the ending. by RedHorseVector	Oct 23rd, 2009 11:05:18 AM
and it says everything. ps. still waiting for you to explain how hilarious that boondock saints coca-cola scene was, asimov. make me understand!
RedHorseVector by AsimovLives	Oct 23rd, 2009 12:33:54 PM
"the last shot of godfather 2 is the ending and it says everything." Absolutly. And it's one of the most haunting endings i ever seen. And you know what's funny about that joke? The funny part of the joke is the racism of the white guy, and as an extention, the generalized racism that stioll ec«xists among white people, regardless if they want toadmit or not. PC shit like calling the indians as native-americans is still a good indication of the premanence of racism in our cyulture, even when we try to cure it by using terminology which in theend is as descriminatory as the old terms of "redskins" and "naturals". The funny shit in the joke is that if there would be no more blacks and indians in America, then the while people would find it a perfect place with no great desires to be fullfilled. The joke is on the white dudes, the joke is on the racists. And it's funny, pure and simple.
Stabby by AsimovLives	Oct 23rd, 2009 12:35:22 PM
Actually, Francis Ford Coppola does consider the 3rd Godfather movie as part of canon, but also he has the closest personal feelings to it, more then the others.
lol, i understood the joke. by RedHorseVector	Oct 23rd, 2009 01:16:45 PM
just couldn't understand why you thought it was so funny when it was nothing but a STOCK racist joke (in a movie filled with STOCK characters and STOCK action sequences). whatever, i'm over this talkback. i actually expected more people to attempt to defend this movie, maybe the tide is starting to turn.

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