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Sounds cool
by Nachokoolaid
Jul 13th, 2009
02:36:49 AM
So, should I read this GN?
by Nachokoolaid
Jul 13th, 2009
02:38:25 AM
The premise sounds pretty good.
Anyone here?
by Nachokoolaid
Jul 13th, 2009
02:39:13 AM
Just me and the bots, huh? Just like THE ZONE. You all should check it out. It beats these TALKBACKS, that's for damn sure.
I really can't see how they'll market this
by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS
Jul 13th, 2009
02:39:42 AM
I've not read the comic but it seems like a hard sell to the public? Anyway, looking forward to the eventual trailers.
VIVA LA ZONE
by Nachokoolaid
Jul 13th, 2009
02:39:43 AM
A preview for a preview!
by Ribbons
Jul 13th, 2009
02:42:50 AM
Nice. Actually that was a pretty good read.
And isn't it refreshing?...
by Nachokoolaid
Jul 13th, 2009
02:42:57 AM
Isn't it refreshing to get to a talkback without all those damn "FIRST" posts everywhere. Reminds me of the comfort of THE ZONE.
You know you want to...
by Nachokoolaid
Jul 13th, 2009
02:44:59 AM
You know you want to. You know you're curious. Go ahead. Click that fifth link in the banner at the top of the page. The Zone is the path to enlightenment.
FIRST.....
by Papalazeru
Jul 13th, 2009
02:47:50 AM
To say Nacho that the zone does enlighten. But there may be some cheese.
Now I've read it all
by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS
Jul 13th, 2009
03:00:53 AM
That was a good interview, Beaks. The man certainly knows how to get you excited to see the movie.

I liked both Layer Cake and Stardust so I'm looking forward to this one, even though I can't yet get my head around the concept.

Papa,
by Nachokoolaid
Jul 13th, 2009
03:02:43 AM
I was going to call you an asshole, but I started nibbling some string cheese instead. Well played.
how about some spoiler warnings?
by edlane1975
Jul 13th, 2009
03:09:34 AM
you revealed things that haven't even been revealed in the comic yet! i would have steered clear had i known. thanks.
Mmmmm String cheese
by Papalazeru
Jul 13th, 2009
03:13:28 AM
Almost as good as Jarlsberg cheese on a nice slice of toast. When it comes to cheese, I'm in THE ZONE.
edlane1975
by mrbeaks
Jul 13th, 2009
03:14:40 AM
I did? I haven't read beyond the first issue of the comic, but I stayed out of the third act of the script. I'm sorry, man.
The fact that this was rushed to be a movie
by Dingbatty
Jul 13th, 2009
03:25:51 AM
so quickly before anyone had the chance to discover if it were worthy or not, is all you need to know. Nothing but love for JRjr.'s art, but the story is garbage.
" It's really got me so excited....
by DOGSOUP
Jul 13th, 2009
03:54:17 AM
about being a director. " Those are refreshing words. The weight they carry alone from being a self-made movie means no matter what this film is, it's not anything we're used to at all. "Could you make it happy?" doesn't live here. I'm on board fully now.
The "Fight Club" Of Comic Book Films
by Media Messiah
Jul 13th, 2009
05:09:12 AM
This is that film. "Wanted" was made to be that, in comic book form, but when the filmmakers changed it into something else, The Matrix meets Hitman, the creator of the book clearly created "Kick Ass" as a back-up for his original vision, hoping that it would one day reach film screens, his version of Fight Club, as vectored through the comic book genre, and then into the form of a film. This is The Fight Club of comic book films, have no doubt, now spread the word!!!
what exactly did LSATSB do for gangster films
by southafricanguy
Jul 13th, 2009
05:36:01 AM
that Resovoir dogs and Pulp Fiction did nt do? I thought it was entertaining, but it was so riding on the coat tails of Tarantino, so Vaughn should really stop carrying on like it was some kind of ground breaking film for the gangster genre. Stardust was ok, well made and some what entertaining imho, but at the same time it felt like one of those movies you forget 30 mins after you watch it, and you just wonder what the was the whole point of the film. I have nt seen Layer Cake so I have no comment there, but based on the things this dude has been involved in so far...im not impressed. That said, the concept of this does sound like it could be promising. Will check this out and finally see what all the hubbub about the comic is....
The Zone
by Fried Gold
Jul 13th, 2009
06:26:26 AM
Nachokoolaid, I am intrigued by this "The Zone" and would like to know more. Is there a link to it?
Fried Gold, ask and you shall receive...
by Nachokoolaid
Jul 13th, 2009
06:28:40 AM
Behold, THE ZONE:

http://zone.aintitcool.com/ind ex.php

Who cares? AVATAR panel is all that matters
by kwisatzhaderach
Jul 13th, 2009
06:42:33 AM
Oh, and the Visionaries panel with Cameron
by kwisatzhaderach
Jul 13th, 2009
06:43:11 AM
and Jackson. Should be interesting stuff. Somebody better youtube it all!!!
What did Lock, Stock do for gangster movies?
by Laserhead
Jul 13th, 2009
06:55:57 AM
Turn them into poseur-fests?
How have you not read past the 1st ish?
by Urall Luzers
Jul 13th, 2009
07:08:57 AM
The book is the shit. I have no idea how you can read that 1st issue & not wanna know what happens next. I mean, he gets the shit kicked outta him, slammed by a car & is left in a pool of his own blood. Come on, man
Charlesthomas.....thanks dude, will do....
by southafricanguy
Jul 13th, 2009
07:10:55 AM
kwis....hows it going my friend. yeah, you are.
by southafricanguy
Jul 13th, 2009
07:13:04 AM
so damn right about that visionaries panel, nevermind the avatar panel on thursday. Cant wait for next week....and im not even going to be there...youtube dont fail me !
edlane1975-there are no spoilers if u have read the comic
by sHapesHiftinLizard
Jul 13th, 2009
07:20:36 AM
at least if you've read all 6 issues so far. Issue 7 is out the last week of July btw. Great comic, hopefully will make a great movie. If you have not read the comic there are spoilers you probably wouldn't want to know, ie Red Mist stuff.
That book's on such a slow schedule...
by Urall Luzers
Jul 13th, 2009
07:27:27 AM
it's hard 2 remember if you read part of the story in the book itself or on the internet somwhere.
Modesty does not exist in KICK-ASS' dojo
by Buzz_Aldrin
Jul 13th, 2009
07:28:11 AM
From the opening line straight through to the interview with lines like "Yeah, well, me too." Beaks cements his position as the worst fuckhead around these parts of the internet. What a douchebag.
My god, just finished reading this shit
by Buzz_Aldrin
Jul 13th, 2009
07:31:17 AM
"I love that you're calling your shot. This is so refreshing."

"So are you infusing the superhero film with a 1970s grittiness?"

Matthew Vaughn: "I'm nervous. I don't even know when the bloody thing is coming out." [...] Beaks: "So what about the release date? Do you have any idea where this might land on the calendar?"

Why is this fucking guy not out of a job? A monkey could do this with more sophistication.

what LOCK, STOCK did for gangster movies...
by MorganLeafy
Jul 13th, 2009
07:39:40 AM
we're doing for comic book/superhero films. So we're getting a slightly derivative, pseudo-cool superhero movie?
Ode to the Independent Film
by greyspecter
Jul 13th, 2009
08:43:46 AM
What a refreshing idea. Freedom to pursue your own ambitions and preferences. Much like conservatism.
Gonna be like WATCHMEN
by timmer33
Jul 13th, 2009
08:59:45 AM
Everyone was jizzing about WATCHMEN, but it ended up disappointing. A rental at best. 6/10 *maybe*.

KICKASS is gonna get all you fanboys excited and waiting for the greatest movie of the decade, and it'll be yet another dud. I love me some Nic Cage though. That guy's da bomb!
God this sounds so tired
by drturing
Jul 13th, 2009
09:24:56 AM
Tarantino-esque. Lock Stock. Superheroes.An 11 year old assassin (Leon). It's the fucking year 2009 man.
Stardust btw was the worst piece of shit i've ever seen
by drturing
Jul 13th, 2009
09:27:20 AM
Not even Don Murphy can fuck up Neil Gaiman like Vaughn. Stardust felt so damn phony, with no atmosphere or authenticity.
BTW one of the highest test screening movies ever was
by drturing
Jul 13th, 2009
09:27:46 AM
the long kiss goodnight.
Also...
by Jennifer_Eccles
Jul 13th, 2009
10:13:08 AM
Turner & Hooch!!
That girl has a triangle face
by D.Vader
Jul 13th, 2009
10:46:23 AM
I don't recall seeing a face that angular before.
Beaks "I still haven't seen a frame of footage"
by Immortal_Fish
Jul 13th, 2009
11:39:41 AM
But, Beaks... You posted three pictures. Those should count!
southafricanguy
by AsimovLives
Jul 13th, 2009
11:45:41 AM
Hey dude, how you doing?
Matthew Vaughn is not being predictable
by AsimovLives
Jul 13th, 2009
11:50:10 AM
This man seems to make great efforts to not be predictable. Started as a produicer for Guy Ritchie, decided he wants to direct, and for his first movie he made what is, in all sense, a british cousin of Heat. And what he does next? A bloated fairy tale movie (not as bad as many claim it, not as good either). And now he makes a comic book movie that is both a comic book movie and a parody of the genre. And remember, he almost got this close to make X-Men 3. What will he do next, i wonder?
As for Nicholas Cage
by AsimovLives
Jul 13th, 2009
11:52:25 AM
with very few exceptions, he's always very wild, like he's a human WB cartoon. I'm gettign tired of his stitch. I just hope Werner Herzog put that into good use in his Bad Lieutenant movie, he usually turns actor's flaws into virtues.
Yeah
by Cobbio
Jul 13th, 2009
12:17:20 PM
Thanks, Beaks! Great interview. I give Matthew Vaughn all the credit in the world for taking R-rated risks outside studio control. It's heartening and I bet the film will more than live up to its title.

Thank God some directors are deciding to make films this way. It's risky, I know, but hopefully "Avatar" will whet ComicCon people's appetites for even more R-rated goodness. I can't imagine it wouldn't.

Plus, I'm very interested to see Aaron Johnson and this young, early Portman-esque actress. Pretty high praise. And I dug the "Magnum Force" shot of hers that Beaks posted.

I wish Vaughn luck!

Nicholas Cage unhindged
by Series7
Jul 13th, 2009
12:59:47 PM
Hopefully something else happens in the book that we don't know because as of what I've read there isn't much for Cage's character to go nutty about.
Claire Danes
by Series7
Jul 13th, 2009
01:02:39 PM
Always has a looked on her face that says either: A) I pooped my pants.

or

B) I just stepped in a big pile of shit I just pooped out.

Take your pic.

wHollyweird, please keep casting
by Dingbatty
Jul 13th, 2009
01:27:32 PM
Michelle Pfeiffer, though.
That costume
by DennisMM
Jul 13th, 2009
03:41:33 PM
is supposed to be a pathetic effort by a color-blind teenager, right? Never saw this addressed anywhere.
Damn, this movie sounds desperate
by lockesbrokenleg
Jul 13th, 2009
04:06:48 PM
It's like that whiny kid in school we all knew and hated.
The reason the studios won't touch it...
by CopOnTheEdge
Jul 13th, 2009
04:41:50 PM
...is violence by or done to CHILDREN. Same thing with Trick 'r' Treat...unreleasable, permanently shelved because there's a guy who's carving up kids. You don't touch God and you don't touch kids.
When I read this script...
by CopOnTheEdge
Jul 13th, 2009
04:43:19 PM
...I couldn't help but think that there was no way this would work on screen. It didn't establish any kind of true reality that I could see buying on screen. But I liked Stardust so I'm willing to give it a try. The script does have some cool reveals, though, like the reveal of what's in the box. (hint: it's not Gwynnie's head)
I've been holding off on the GN...
by TedKordLives
Jul 13th, 2009
06:36:21 PM
...since Millar is pretty much telling the story I'VE always wanted to tell, but I AM excited about this movie. Hopefully, the screening will generate enough interest to find the movie a distributor.
god vaughn is arrogant
by mynemaborat
Jul 13th, 2009
07:18:25 PM
i hope the movie flops just to take him down a peg
Disagree
by Cobbio
Jul 13th, 2009
08:47:36 PM
mynemaborat, you wrote, "god vaughn is arrogant."

This was your impression? Really? Because I got the exact opposite impression. To me he seems fairly honest and genuine and humble. Unlike certain other filmmakers who deliver pile of shit after pile of shit, he seems interested in doing his best and trying new things. That's not arrogant, in my opinion. That's creative.

drturing
by Nachokoolaid
Jul 13th, 2009
09:16:01 PM
That's because THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT is badass. If this is evne close to as good as that, I'll be pleased.

Fuck the haters, TLKG is one of the best movies ever.

Am I laying it on too thick? Perhaps, but it is a really fun film.

Were were just talking about The Long Kiss Goodnight
by Nachokoolaid
Jul 13th, 2009
09:19:26 PM
in THE ZONE.
This is my number 1 movie to see...ever
by Frodo T. Baggins
Jul 13th, 2009
09:38:20 PM
Cobbio.....i dont know if Vauhn is arrogant
by southafricanguy
Jul 13th, 2009
11:04:41 PM
but both he and Ritchie do seem to have an inflated sense of self-importance. The way they both go on about LSATSB as if it was some kind of ground breaking re-invention of a genre is I think what gives many the impression of arrogance. Imho, neither of these two have really proven themselves. Ritchie is a one trick pony as far as I can see (how many Tarantino style British gangster movies do we need exactly?)who took huge advantage of the style of filmaking Tarantino brought to people's attention in the 90s. It will be interesting to see if he can actually do something different with Sherlock Holmes. Vaughn has nt impressed me as imho Stardust was pretty forgettable. Vaughn comes across just fine in that interview, I dont think arrogant, but as I said him and Ritchie do seem to thin k a little too highly of themselves. Now Danny Boyle, theres a damn talented British director (sunshine and LLO aside...)
southafricanguy
by blakindigo
Jul 14th, 2009
01:03:50 AM
When "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels" was released it was only 4 years after "Pulp Fiction" won a gob of awards and became a touchstone for the 'Cinema of Cool' and their cultural impact (geezus, to much alliteration in that sentence). So, for a British film to tap into and maintain it's unique p.o.v., while making a dent in the international box office, made it a big accomplishment.

The movie seemed to usher in the revival of the British gangster film and both Vaughn and Ritchie were the poster boys for that movement. I don't think they were arrogant, more like they relished the attention they deserved, considering the major achievement that film represented.

I can't wait to watch this.
by ParagonComplex
Jul 14th, 2009
01:07:55 AM
Damn I love the comic book. If he did the comic justice then this is going to be one hell of a ride.
mynemaborat
by AsimovLives
Jul 14th, 2009
02:29:26 AM
Filmmakers do need a certain arrogance on them, or else they don't go anywhere. Their "arrogance" does help them stick to their vision, speically when most of the time they will have to face oposition. Also, as Coppola once said, filmamking is mostly having 80% of your time devoted to studio politics, and little to do with the very act of filmmaking. The arrogance there also helps. Sad but true.
The Long Kiss Goodnight
by AsimovLives
Jul 14th, 2009
02:38:11 AM
I never saw that movie, but from what i gathered, i didn't missed much. That movie came about when i totally gave up on Renny Harlin, when i relaised what a fool idiot he is, both as a person and as a filmmaker. I was still folled into watching Deep Blue Sea and his retarded version of the Exorcit Prequel movie because friends pressured me to go to watch it on friends' night out and i didn't wanted to be the party-pooper. And boy, did they regreted it. Harlin is one of the directors i most detest.
Hey Asimov..hows it going man? Long time no
by southafricanguy
Jul 14th, 2009
03:11:00 AM
see around here. Yes you are right about the arrogance, but there is a difference between that and making outlandish claims "will do for comic book movies what LSATSB did for gangster movies.." thant make you look like an egotistical tool. Blakindigo...sorry my friend,it does nt wash with me. Ok, so it was an acheivement for the British film industry, that does nt excuse it being so derivative of Tarantino's films. Thats like saying that its ok to make an entertaining but nothing special movie (nothing wrong with that) and claim it to be revolutionary just because it was produced in another countires film industry and had a pov of that culture?
thats like me claiming District 9 will be revolu
by southafricanguy
Jul 14th, 2009
03:15:11 AM
tionary because it will be an achievement for the south african fil industry and becos it will retain a south african pov. District 9 looks really cool, and could be a damn good movie, but I cant claim it to be revolutionary because of that. Though I will admit to personally really not liking Ritchies films. For me every character is just too cool, and like annoying poseurs, and his movies have a smug self-knowing quality like "yeah we re cool and we know it"...imho...
And while i found stardust to be quite forgetta
by southafricanguy
Jul 14th, 2009
03:17:49 AM
ble (it flopped for a reason) im willing to give Vaughn the benefit of the doubt as he is at least trying interesting things, and he does nt just keep doing the same shit over and over (ala Mr Madoona). Plus as I said this sounds like a really cool concept..Hope its as violent and funny as he says...
AsimovLives: "The Long Kiss Goodnight" Is A Great Film
by Media Messiah
Jul 14th, 2009
03:43:11 AM
You have been misled. Renny Harlin made two great films, Die Hard 2 and "The Long Kiss Goodnight", the rest are a mess, but Long Kiss Goodnight is a great film and a lost treasure.
I Liked Stardust
by Media Messiah
Jul 14th, 2009
04:10:53 AM
It started slow and scattered...but became very imaginative and sweeping. Stardust is a dreamy adult fairytale that keeps you guessing at almost every turn, and that is the fun of the movie. I loved it in ways that the over-bloated and cold Lord of The Rings just did not deliver emotionally and adventure wise. I feel, however, if they were going to make Stardust an adult fairytale, they should have gone all the way, and included graphic sex, and nudity, and gone for a hard R, well, at least BBC style sex and nudity. That said, it is a very original film, and story...one which takes us through familiar genre fantasy realms, but places an creative twist on them which you have never quite seen before. This is what the deeply overhyped, and bland, Princess Bride should have been, but wasn't, and isn't.

Lastly, in a bit of disappointing news, I must say that the male lead was miscast. He was lacking something, although a very good actor? They needed a more suitable male lead in place of him...but despite this flaw, and several others, the film had a handsome and artistically refreshing, pulse. It seemed like an independent foreign art film with a blockbuster budget, and the truth is, the independent, foreign, and art films being produced these days, are now largely the best films in release...and that has been true of the last decade, plus. Look at this summer's line-up of films, from Wolverine and Star Trek, to Terminator Salvation, Angels & Demons, and Transformers, simply said--they have all sucked!!! Stardust is better than all of those films combined, and that is really saying something about its richly original quality control, and the lack of quality controls for those other films!!!!!
Media Messiah, no.
by MorganLeafy
Jul 14th, 2009
05:03:50 AM
Harlin's best is Cliffhanger.
Well, "Lock, Stock…" isn't revolutionary, but it IS
by blakindigo
Jul 14th, 2009
07:55:18 AM
entertaining. I'm not sure I understand your point though—each film is marketed and promoted to sell the specific audience a pov, and if that movie initiates a following, I think it is a major accomplishment. Not necessarily for movies in general, but definitely for the particular country the film sprang form. .

If something like Richard Stanley's "Dust Devil" was a major hit in South Africa, that would probably have started a push for more films in that style. And, in defense of Vaughn, "Layer Cake" is quite good. I don't see any connection to Tarantino with that movie. It has a unique style and great performances.
MorganLeafy: Cliffhanger Was Okay
by Media Messiah
Jul 14th, 2009
03:00:39 PM
I just don't remember it much.
Hard R "Stardust"?
by DennisMM
Jul 14th, 2009
04:30:55 PM
Is that your solution to everything? What it needed were charismatic leads and the dumping of the entire DeNiro sequence. Have you read the book?
DennisMM: I Haven't Read The Book
by Media Messiah
Jul 14th, 2009
06:40:54 PM
When I said Hard R, I am talk BBC style nudity and sex, and in America that would still gain you a Hard R no matter what? However, back in the 70s, in America, filmmakers might get a PG for what would be the equivalent of televised BBC adult content, now...forget it.

I haven't read the book, but I enjoyed the movie, nonetheless.
blakindigo.....not comparing vaughn to tarantin
by southafricanguy
Jul 14th, 2009
07:06:06 PM
o dude, just ritchie that rips him off. There is nothing i ve seen of Vaughn to lead me to believe he copies Tarantino. I have not yet seen layer cake, so as I said previously I can have no comment on it. And as I said at least Vaughn appears to be trying to do different things as opposed to Ritchie, thus Im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt re kick-ass (even though I found stardust very underwhelming and forgettable)...
I gotcha southafricanguy—
by blakindigo
Jul 14th, 2009
08:10:58 PM
I think Ritchie can be interesting, but he does have a few obvious Tarantino-isms. The more he gets away from that influence, the more he might have something exciting and less derivative.
blackindigo.....well thats the thing is nt it?
by southafricanguy
Jul 14th, 2009
10:57:17 PM
we are going to have to wait for Sherlock Holmes I think to see if Ritchie has any thing to offer other than british gangster movies that take their cue from Resovoir dogs and Pulp Fiction.
I just hope he does nt make Holmes in the
by southafricanguy
Jul 14th, 2009
10:58:17 PM
same style as his previous movies as I think that would really not suit the material...
copontheedge
by blue7
Jul 14th, 2009
11:19:45 PM
You make a good point. Trick 'r Treat is going to be released on disc in October and is playing film festivals until then. Not as awesome as a wide Halloween release, but far from permanently shelved. Hopefully Kick-Ass is as awesome as it sounds and it finds a distributor at Comic-Con.
'They'd need a magnifying glass...'
by scottishnutjob
Jul 16th, 2009
06:34:32 PM
God I love being British.
Ritchie shits on Tarantino
by scottishnutjob
Jul 16th, 2009
06:38:28 PM
Seriously, anyone who thinks Guy Ritchie is not a legend, hasn't seen his movies properly. Lock Stock was amazing and there were many scenes in Revolver and Snatch that were hugely ground-breaking in their originality. Tarantino ripped Reservoir Dogs off City on Fire, so don't get me started.
Big daddy was a cop, not a writer
by nechyv
Jul 19th, 2009
11:15:16 AM
and nic cage is a bad idea
Ugh I can't stand Matthew Vaughn...
by qweruiop
Jul 26th, 2009
02:42:22 PM
This is the guy who wussed out of X3 at the last second, citing issues about being closer to his family but really it's because he couldn't handle the pressure of doing a big blockbuster. Strange how other directors do it like it's another day at the office, ie Raimi, Jackson, Wachoskis, etc. And then Vaughn has the audacity to lambaste Brett Ratner, who came in knowing all of the intense pressures involved of handling a $250 million. Brett got the job done, and at least imo did a decent enough presentation. What did Matthew Vaughn do exactly except quit before day 1 on the project? Shut up Matthew. When you can actually handle the pressure like other directors then you can actually say something, otherwise you look like a hypocrite.
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