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Harold Ramis Discusses The Development Of GHOSTBUSTERS 3!!

1st by RedHorseVector	Jul 10th, 2009 09:32:47 AM

Will there be ghosts? by SoylentMean	Jul 10th, 2009 09:34:55 AM
Will it not suck?
the ramis/aykroyd "story" for the video game was SHIT. by RedHorseVector	Jul 10th, 2009 09:35:50 AM
i'm hoping they were just given a writing credit on the game because they punched up some jokes and the developers thought a game "written" by them would attract more fans, but... i mean... the jokes were pretty bad too...
DO NOT MAKE THIS FILM!!!! by Six Demon Bag	Jul 10th, 2009 09:35:51 AM

Embed does not work, it does not work! by SoylentMean	Jul 10th, 2009 09:35:57 AM
No beholding to be had.
Uh, Indy 4 wasn't that bad. by Mahaloth	Jul 10th, 2009 09:36:37 AM
I mean, it's nothing compared to the Star Wars prequels. It's just the least cool Indy film, but it still worked as an Indy film. I get the dislike, just not the hate.
Bit rich slagging Crystal Skull by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 10th, 2009 09:36:39 AM
given some of the shit he's made.
Slapping around Indy 4 earns Ramis points in your book? by slone13	Jul 10th, 2009 09:37:19 AM
What book? Don't be a turd, Merrick.
If Year One is any by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 09:37:39 AM
Indication of Ramis ability right now....i'd say leave it alone.
SoylentMean by Merrick	Jul 10th, 2009 09:39:31 AM
Embed is working for me; tried it through two different browsers... (???)
Ramis is too Enamored with Apatow right now by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 09:39:50 AM
He needs to get his head out of Judds ass and realize that he is light years better then Ap and go back to his roots. His style does not work with Ap's style.
GB4:They chase the ghost of Spielberg's dead talent by ZombieHeathLedger	Jul 10th, 2009 09:41:17 AM

Merrick, I got nothing, oh well thanks anyways by SoylentMean	Jul 10th, 2009 09:41:42 AM
I guess I can go the website without the ease of just clicking here. Always gotta be working for something.
Harold Ramis=Caddy Shack 2 by Craig2574	Jul 10th, 2009 09:42:32 AM
Ramis had his hand in writing Caddy Shack 2 one of the worst movies I have ever seen and one of the most pointless sequels. Indy 4 might have been a train wreck but Caddy Shack 2 was 1 100000 car pile up
Ok, now it works, apparently I was dropped on my head by SoylentMean	Jul 10th, 2009 09:42:57 AM
as a wee lad. Repeatedly. Then kicked by a mule. That was blind, but still found me.
Redhorse you are gay and queer at the same time by Mysterious_Volvo	Jul 10th, 2009 09:43:37 AM

The story in the game was not theirs by erichaislar	Jul 10th, 2009 09:45:34 AM
the story was written before they all got on board. So they had to work with what they where given. The game was half way developed. would have been to expensive to redo. Game was great. I Loved it.
Will Ramis have the kick ass Tuturro hair? by SoylentMean	Jul 10th, 2009 09:46:14 AM
That's a must dammit. Oh, and no Seth Rogen. I don't generally have a problem with the guy, but I don't want to think of him as a fuckin' Ghostbuster.
Yes, this will suck. by Spandau Belly	Jul 10th, 2009 09:48:56 AM
I really don't see any other way. Ghostbusters 3 has zero potential because this is not the year 1993.
Mixed Feelings by Logan_1973	Jul 10th, 2009 09:50:53 AM
That was one of the most honest interviews I've ever seen, and I appreciate Ramis a bit more now for his openess. He seems genuine. BUT...he did make the dud YEAR ONE! And I still say DON'T MAKE GB3. It has Indy 4 written all over it.
I like the cut of his jib. by rev_skarekroe	Jul 10th, 2009 10:00:10 AM
Ghostbusters 4 should be good if he's heavily involved. Then again, I've heard nothing good about Year One...
At least their not wanting to make the movie for money by erichaislar	Jul 10th, 2009 10:03:58 AM
they sound like they want it to be as good as the first or not do it at all.
Ghostbusters 3 Not 4 by Come_ON	Jul 10th, 2009 10:04:18 AM
Fuck the video game. It's the third Ghostbusters movie not the fourth.
Ghostbusters by ufoclub1977	Jul 10th, 2009 10:04:30 AM
I never even liked the first Ghostbusters much... not as much as Vacation, Caddyshack, Blues Brothers, or Animal House. Maybe I was looking for the wrong vibe out of it.
IJ4 Wasn't That Bad... by spikey_bill65	Jul 10th, 2009 10:05:19 AM
...judging by the returns it scored, I think I wasn't alone in that assumption. Anyway, I am worried about the recent state of Ramis/Aykroyd's talent; Ghostbusters was a true classic in every sense of the word, that movie just gelled. But, I have to be honest, the trailer for Year One just completely turned me off. It wasn't the slagging of religion angle (need more of that, I think), but it just looked awful. Are these guys up to it? What was the last thing either of them produced that could even approach Ghostbusters quality to give me hope for this project? Help me out, people!
ufoclub1977 by erichaislar	Jul 10th, 2009 10:06:19 AM
I would say so. That film is in now way like those.
one of the worst enbeds by thinboyslim.	Jul 10th, 2009 10:08:12 AM
whats he doing with that telescope? spying on apatow to steal his ideas?
The guy who made YEAR ONE slaps around INDY IV by Mr Gorilla	Jul 10th, 2009 10:10:41 AM
Here's a big surprise, people: Indy IV, while not delivering on the massive expectations of the fans, was not horrible. It was not genius either. But it was a very entertaining two hours in the cinema. I saw it again on video and it held up. I'd rather watch it over Temple of Doom any day. The best trilogy, if you ask me, is RAIDERS (the best), then CRUSADE (the next best), then SKULL (the next best again). Forget TEMPLE ever happened.
Three times I've tired to watch this fucking embed. by The Gospel According to Bastardface	Jul 10th, 2009 10:12:00 AM

Indy 4 was horrible . . . by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon	Jul 10th, 2009 10:13:26 AM
Sure, we all want to cling to that tiny bit of hope that says it was acceptable but it's not. I think that's a big problem for the consumer and for hollywood. As long as we support that kind of trash with our hard earned money trash is all we'll get.
Oh just shut the fuck up about Crystal Skull. by HoboCode	Jul 10th, 2009 10:14:32 AM
It was thoroughly enjoyable to anyone who isn't your 12 year old ADHD son or people who make diamonds with their asses from lumps of coal.
Love the beard! by unfaithfullyyours	Jul 10th, 2009 10:16:42 AM

oh no! someone called me a name! by RedHorseVector	Jul 10th, 2009 10:16:54 AM
who are you? harold ramis' son? i got nothing against the ghostbusters game, but if you think that "story" was any good, i'd have to strongly disagree.
Indy 4 may have sucked by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 10:17:18 AM
But people embraced it and it made a shit ton of money. Which sent the message, "Harrison and Beards we like what you do" - Thank You The World. Year One will not recoup its cost. Which sent the message, "This is not funny, you do not even know what funny is anymore" - Fuck you, America (I don't even think Year One will be seen anywhere overseas like an Adam Sandler comedy).
I fucking quit. by The Gospel According to Bastardface	Jul 10th, 2009 10:18:37 AM
Worst embed ever.
if hating bad writing is queer, call me freddy mercury. by RedHorseVector	Jul 10th, 2009 10:18:52 AM

Ramis complaining about Skull by skimn	Jul 10th, 2009 10:20:10 AM
methinks he's a bit jealous. Since Year One is the Meet Dave/Love Guru of the summer so far. I know money is no qualifyer for quality, but it's made less than 40 million in its 3 weeks of release, the lowest of any of the summer releases.
ghostbusters game by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 10:20:13 AM
Any good? There was like post after post after post after post followed by 10 more post leading up the fucking game. Then when it came out NOTHING? Typical. I didn't even know it was out till I was looking at the discount rack in Wal Mart. Any review? Because Gamespot doesn't even review games anymore.
The Game Was Flipping Great! by Autodidact	Jul 10th, 2009 10:20:33 AM
I love Ghostbusters: The Video Game so much. Even with a serious case of consolitis it's some of the most fun I've had with a PC game lately. Good job on that one Ghostbusters guys!
skimn by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 10:22:08 AM
No Year One is a flop, but its not a Meet Dave/Love Guru flop. You forgot that Eddie Murphy is still making movies and made sure that he had the big summer flop (well that may be Land of the Lost) with Imagine That. Which even though it didn't cost that much, still flopped.
We're getting off topic, folks! by spikey_bill65	Jul 10th, 2009 10:22:46 AM
I'm as guilty as the next, but we're not actually here to diss on or defend IJ4. The issue at hand: can Ramis/Aykroyd pull off a decent new installment of Ghostbusters? Are they up for it, or will this be Ghostbusters armageddon, dogs and cats living together, and all that?
indy 4 sucked hot dick by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN	Jul 10th, 2009 10:25:13 AM
fuck you lucas. fuck you and your whole god damn life.
I thought Ghostbusters: The Video Game WAS Ghostbusters 3 by covered_in_bees	Jul 10th, 2009 10:25:17 AM
Not really complaining, I'd much rather have a brand new film than to just settle with the watered down story that the Ghostbusters video game left us with.
series7. by RedHorseVector	Jul 10th, 2009 10:25:24 AM
gameplay is pretty enjoyable overall, it's definitely a fun novelty to be blasting those proton streams all over the place. but the story is non-existent, basically just a retread of people and places you've seen in the movies. also, the computer AI in the campaign is borderline retarded and the online multiplayer has huge glitches that have not yet been addressed by atari. i would say, unless you are an xbox acheivement whore like me, it's probably only worth a rental.
one of the best opening menu screens ever, though. by RedHorseVector	Jul 10th, 2009 10:27:05 AM
hhahahaha. honestly, it's really cool.
NUKE THE FRIDGE by fassbinder79	Jul 10th, 2009 10:28:39 AM
And leave it in the fucking garbage. Good for you, Harold. Spielberg is a hack.
series7 by erichaislar	Jul 10th, 2009 10:29:35 AM
It was very good. I really is a love letter to Ghostbusters. But it's not perfect. But it is the best ghostbuisters game there is for sure. you really feel like a Ghostbusters.
Indy 4 was a 'disaster'? Really? by loserguy3000	Jul 10th, 2009 10:30:45 AM
You know, I guess I live in some alternative universe where a movie (i.e. Indiana Jones) can become the biggest title in the franchise, the year's number one movie (worldwide, # 2 in the US by a hair) and universally liked by most moviegoers and still be considered trash. This happens so often, you'd be forgiven for thinking it was truth. But the only types that think movies like Indy 4 are (and I quote) 'disasters' are people like Ramis, Harry, and other insider-industry douchebags. Ramis would KILL to have a disaster that successful, especially given the lull between the various chapters in the franchise. Was Indy 4 the best Indy? No, but it was fun, action-packed, at times thrilling, and more fun than most films that came out last year. Try as they might to tell us otherwise (just as they tried to make 'nuke the fridge' a meaningful meme) it didn't work. The more you guys hate, the less relevant you become.
It could be great if... by Bumpasses Dawg	Jul 10th, 2009 10:31:33 AM
They play off the fact that they are all OLD MEN now. Murray and Ramis should stay gray and bearded. Aykroyd should stay fat. They should be well retired and pulled back against their will and aching joints. I have heard a rumor that the new Ghostbusters will be all young women. How wounding for Murray's Venkman would it be to have them look at the original Ghostbusters as creepier than actual ghosts?
"loserguy3000"... by drwynninblack	Jul 10th, 2009 10:34:24 AM
Amen, brother. Tell it like it is and preach that shit all day long!
Didn't Murray compain about his by Rufferto	Jul 10th, 2009 10:36:21 AM
experience working on Ghostbusters 2. (I loved the second one just as much as the first) If he didn't like that then surely there is no way he's going to like this. Ramis says it's not about money but so did Spielberg about the new Indy. Just wondering why now and not years ago?
The three main GB actors REALLY let themselves go by ZombieHeathLedger	Jul 10th, 2009 10:36:49 AM
Father Time is undefeated.
They Chose A New Form For Harold Ramis. by buster00	Jul 10th, 2009 10:38:43 AM
That of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you.
Ramis Should Talk... by BoggyCreekBeast	Jul 10th, 2009 10:40:35 AM
If you want to live on past glory, get a time machine.
OK, once more and this is the last time by spikey_bill65	Jul 10th, 2009 10:43:07 AM
Re: IJ4. Read the post by loserguy3000, I think it sums my views up pretty well. If you feel differently, that's entirely your right to do so. Vote for it by not seeing movies by the Beards anymore. Don't buy their spin off products, DVD's, games, figures, posters, chips, strap ons, Hallowe'en costumes, snacks, bed covers or wallpaper. Show them you dislike any aspect of what they are doing by not buying it or seeing it. That'll show 'em! Go see the movies you would rather see and enjoy them. Have a blast. Really, I mean it, have a great time. Because the rest of us will be doing exactly that when IJ5 comes out. You don't like it? Stay away from it. Nobody's holding a bullwhip to your head and forcing you into the theaters, after all. Now, back to Ghostbusters...
In the video game interviews Winston by Rufferto	Jul 10th, 2009 10:43:49 AM
actually looks great. At least in comparison to the others. Ernie Hudson hasn't aged as much. Akroyd was sweating a lot. And I think Murray didn't do an interview at all. Ha. Probably called it in.
Cowbell by HoboCode	Jul 10th, 2009 10:47:29 AM
I guess you didn't see the article that came out months ago that revealed Spielberg was the one responsible for most of the shit people complain about from Indy4.
Wait...Natalie Portman was a Web site? by Sithdan	Jul 10th, 2009 10:49:09 AM
Why wasn't I informed?!
Crystal Skull vs Year One, by ulcer	Jul 10th, 2009 10:52:53 AM
The point of talking about Crystal Skull is how it fares with regards to the fan's expectations as a sequel to a classic. you know, like GB3 would be to Ghostbuster. We don't want a Ghostbuster that disapoints in term of character like Chystal Skull did. But go ahead, argue about the box office money it made! not only is that not the point, but the money it made is addressed in the interview.
Help this guy get in GB3 by A_Banned_Apart	Jul 10th, 2009 10:53:03 AM
There's some fellow on Facebook with a petition to be cast in Ghostbusters 3/III. Don't know if my dream is to be in a too-late sequel, but geeks should help their brethren, right? http://tinyurl.com/russellbust er
the embed takes a while to come up by ulcer	Jul 10th, 2009 10:54:52 AM
a minute or so. site is overloaded, no doubt.
Bust this idea by The 6th Conchord	Jul 10th, 2009 10:55:27 AM
Who even cares? Ak's & Ramis' golden days are FAR behind them. In the last ten or so years Danny gave us shit like Blues Bros. 2000 & the show Soul Man, and isn't Year 1 proof enough Ramis has fucking lost whatever he had? Hooking up with those Office jerks is a lousy idea, but at least now I'll see a GB movie that's somehow worse than part 2.
Has Ramis consulted Tobin's Spirit Guide about this?! by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jul 10th, 2009 10:55:42 AM
He really should before this thing turns into a debacle. My fingers are crossed on this one... And bring back Walter Peck!!!
Tobin's Spirit Guide by HoboCode	Jul 10th, 2009 11:00:08 AM
They should publish one. That would be an awesome marketing tie in for a new film.
I CANT WAIT - HE SOUNDS VERY "SMART" by Mennen	Jul 10th, 2009 11:00:53 AM
... About what's important - A GOOD MOVIE "FIRST" - everything else later (sfx etc...)
It's kind of bothersome and sad by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead	Jul 10th, 2009 11:03:58 AM
Ramis really seems to "get it." He doesn't want to whore out the franchise and make a vapid, soulless, lazy, and horrible sequel like Crystal Skull. He even goes on to talk about how much money Crystal Skull made and says that he wants no part of that type of blood money. He also seems to "get" how tired the above-average moviegoer is of all this CGI white noise, how callused we've all become to this incredible science that had all the potential in the world but instead got used for the purpose of laziness instead of creativity. It makes me kind of happy that the third Ghostbusters movie will be somewhat in his hands, because he seems to understand what most of us are feeling and he feels it too. But then I think, this is the guy who gave us fucking Ghostbusters II and dropped that steaming turd of a movie called Year One on multiplexes this summer. Once I realize that Ramis is just as much part of the problem instead of the solution, I just sigh and wonder why in the fuck Moon and The Hurt Locker still aren;t playing in a theater near me.
loserguy3000 by Mr.FTW	Jul 10th, 2009 11:04:40 AM
Indy 4 was a box office success but it was still a terible movie. Not just a terible Indy movie but a terible movie in general. Bad acting, bad story, unexplainably bad fx. That movie owes all of it's success to riding on the success of the previous films and the hype of a new one after 20 years. Yeah it made box office bank but only because it was Indiana Jones not because it was good. The true test would be how successful Indy 5 would be after people have seen Indy 4.
20 years since the last one... pathetic. by YackBacker	Jul 10th, 2009 11:05:49 AM
Yet they could pull it off if they had an inspired idea for this movie. The odds of that happening don't appear good, however. Let's wait and see...
Judging from the interview... by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS	Jul 10th, 2009 11:06:47 AM
Ghostbusters 3 won't be a CGI shitfest. So that's something.
Crystal Skull vs Year One (and The Ice Storm) by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 11:07:21 AM
Crystal Skull is a lot closer to the originals, in terms of fun and story and story. The same cannot be said about Year One, it is a lot different and less funny then Harolds old stuff that would lead one to believe that he does not want to make similar movies to what he used to do.
Series7 by A_Banned_Apart	Jul 10th, 2009 11:10:41 AM
Going by that logic, should you not be upset that Crystal Skull wasn't as good as Schindler's List, Witness, or American Grafitti?
A_Banned_Apart whatever by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 11:12:07 AM
Thats you.
Excellent comeback. by A_Banned_Apart	Jul 10th, 2009 11:14:48 AM
Consider me served.
You can tell he knows it's going to suck - and Year One BOOOMBED by Professor_Monster	Jul 10th, 2009 11:17:35 AM
This fucker almost sounds dead.
Indiana and Jones by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 11:18:41 AM
See I am not a rabid fan of Indy. I think they are all a little silly. I think Crystal Skull fits in with the other plots and types of action just fine, seeing that it was 20 years since the last one and action anti has been upped since then of course it was going to have to be over the top and nonsesical. It still felt like an Indy movie to me. It was better then the prequels, and better then some of Stevens crap recently (AI, Munich, War of the Worlds). But first of Ramis didn't direct either Ghostbuster, but he did direct Groundhog Day and Caddyshack (shit I thought he director more). Pretty much besides those two and Vacation he's only directed crap. The Ice Harvest (2005) Analyze That (2002) Bedazzled (2000) Analyze This (1999) Multiplicity (1996) Stuart Saves His Family (1995) So yeah I guess I change my argument, Ramis better not direct this he kind of sucks as a director. But Ivan Reitman's recent stuff: Evolution (my nomination for worst movie ever) and My Super Ex-Girlfriend is a lot worse then his old stuff then Indy 4 is compared to their old stuff.
It's sad how geeks turn against their heroes by Datascream	Jul 10th, 2009 11:21:35 AM
or even the people that have created so many movie memories for them. At least George Lucas proved to us he's lost his talent. But hell, Ramis hasn't made horrible movies over and over again. I think he and Akroyd could nail this.
Datascream by spikey_bill65	Jul 10th, 2009 11:23:30 AM
I sincerely hope so. Perhaps they have a Lennon/McCartney thing going on in that they're better when they can bounce ideas off each other
Ramis and Reitman might be better directors... by BurnedNotice_Dude	Jul 10th, 2009 11:23:35 AM
if they weren't given shitty scripts to work with. They can only do so much with the crap that is greenlighted to make.
Common ground by A_Banned_Apart	Jul 10th, 2009 11:24:27 AM
I agree that I'd rather not see Ramis or Reitman direct much of anything these days. I'd love to be surprised by either or both of them, but I'm not holding my breath.
Datascream by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 11:24:44 AM
Look at that list of movies Ramis directed, try telling me those are shit over and over again.
To everybody having trouble watching the embed... by jimmy rabbitte	Jul 10th, 2009 11:27:49 AM
Try using Firefox as your browser. I avoided switching from IE for years. A couple of weeks back I finally switched to Firefox; and I can't figure out what took me so long. If you don't like Firefox try Chrome or Safari. Whatever you do, just stop surfing with Internet Explorer. It's very bad for your computer.
That said-- by A_Banned_Apart	Jul 10th, 2009 11:29:14 AM
Multiplicity was passable for me, and Stuart Saves His Family is one of my preferred SNL inspired movies (not that that's saying much).
It all comes down to this by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 11:29:40 AM
People feel hurt and upset that Indy 4 and Star Wars 1-3 were not as great as their originals. Either way they are a lot better then anything either Reitman has done since Dave or Ramis with Hog. All Reitman does is found crap like Trailer Park Boys and The Uninvited while aiding his sons in making crappy films. Well he did produce Killing Me Softly which many geeks have enjoyed over and over and over again.
could this video be choppier? by yippeekaiyaymofo	Jul 10th, 2009 11:40:45 AM
Damn, anyone got a mirror?
GROUNDHOG DAY 2?? by ZombieHeathLedger	Jul 10th, 2009 11:44:34 AM
GROUNDHOG DAY is one of the best, funniest, classic comedies of all time. I'd rather see GROUNDHOG DAY 2 rather than another GHOSTBUSTERS movie. And yea, Ernie Hudson has aged well.
Year One is way up there as one of the worst... by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 11:45:23 AM
films I have ever seen and it got in that category easily. It's terrible. On top of that Ramis hasn't got a very good track record as far as movies go. I love the Ghostbusters films but the only other films he's done that I personally thought were any good were Groundhog Day and Armed and Dangerous. Caddyshack is OK, Animal House is OK-ish but is way over rated. And for Ghostbusters, if it comes to fruition, obviously he is older but I'd still like him to slim down a bit and lose the beard.
And Harold... by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 11:53:19 AM
Please don't cast Fat Afro or Bewildered Afro in the next Ghostbusters. And I guess while I'm at it, PLEASE scrap the idea of a young, new breed of Ghostbusters, just stick with you guys because that's what everyone loves. I just could not bear to watch a Ghostbusters film featuring the old cast for a quarter of the film along with a new cast of Ghostbusters featuring Jack Black, Michael Cera, Seth Rogen, Jonah Hill and Marlon Wayans. UGH.
STOP FUCKING EQUATING B.O. WITH QUALITY!!! by pdennett316	Jul 10th, 2009 11:53:37 AM
I'm getting sick of this shit, people defending/attacking movies based on their box office take. Are you fucking retarded or something?? Now I happened to enjoy Crystal Skull, I thought the moments that felt like Indy of old far outweighed the crap like Greaser monkeys and the like. But simply pointing to the fact it made huge money as an indication that the movie is good? Well, I think Transformers 2 puts paid to that argument....and the likes of Paul Blart, Twilight etc. Like what you like, but give some valid reasons why rather than spouting off shit about box office - it couldn't be less meaningless.
Meaningful, not meaningless... by pdennett316	Jul 10th, 2009 11:54:49 AM
Damn double negatives and lack of edit functions!!!
For someone who was involved with Ghostbusters 2 by theycallmemrtibbs	Jul 10th, 2009 11:57:10 AM
He's got a lot of nerve to past judgement on Indy 4. (Which really wasn't a bad movie, don't understand the hate for it.) For me Ghostbusters 2 was a huge let down. From the story to the performances. The real Ghostbusters cartoon was way more entertaining than anything in that bogus sequel. Think about all the memorable lines Bill Murray had in the first one, how he commanded that movie from beginning to end. In the second one he was bland and had little or no energy. Personally, I could care less if they do another one, the original will always be one of my top movies of all time. However, if they do decide to do a third, I at least hope they consider all the things that made the first one a classic.
Video's not showing up. Using Firefox. by Shermdawg	Jul 10th, 2009 11:57:44 AM
Just see the "play" icon, but no video box itself.
Ghostbusters 2 wasn't as good as the first. by Shermdawg	Jul 10th, 2009 12:01:01 PM
But there was way more to like in that, than what we were given in Crystal Skull. So many great quotes in that one. It's kinda like pizza, even when it's shitty, it's still pretty good.
i want to hear what BILL MURRAY has to say about GB3 by ricarleite2	Jul 10th, 2009 12:06:34 PM
It will be so hilarious when it becomes obvious to us he has no knowledge of such film being in production.
Uh, what do you mean Bill isn't aware? by Shermdawg	Jul 10th, 2009 12:12:54 PM
Of course he's aware. He's mentioned it several times. Catch up.
Re: Shermdawg by ricarleite2	Jul 10th, 2009 12:13:55 PM
That is called a JOKE.
theycallmemistertibbs by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead	Jul 10th, 2009 12:15:21 PM
That's just Bill Murray now. It's funny, critics look to Murray's bored and expressionless performances of the last fifteen years and say he has finally come into his own as an actor. It seems to me that he is just collecting paychecks and reading lines. He hasn't lost it on the level of a Chevy Chase or Eddie Murphy but the man has definitely lost it. Murray was an energetic funny, Aykroyd is really hit or miss but the guy has the ability to be really fucking funny still when he wants to be. Murray on the other hand seems that he either just doesn't give a shit. Judging from the few times I have met the man and judging from everything I have ever heard from anyone who has ever met him, his personality really seems to have invaded his performance. Murray is a prick, a self-important jack-ass who couldn't give a shit about anyone but himself and his own self-importance. Remember his reactions to losing the Oscar to a real actor? I love Bill Murray's performances from back in the day, he was genuinely fucking hilarious, but starting with Ghostbusters II, his lack of enthusiasm has been bringing his movies down for a while now. He was smart enough to start taking on roles in which he played characters with a lack of enthusiasm which is why people now mistake him for a great actor. i do hold out hope for this movie, but not wioth the utmost confidence. Please guys!!! Prove me wrong!!!!
Interesting. by gotilk	Jul 10th, 2009 12:31:40 PM
But that Zombieland trailer was kinda fun looking.
Ramis Said The Same Thing Prior To Ghostbusters 2 by Acquanetta	Jul 10th, 2009 12:32:22 PM
The original Ghostbusters have all given us such "worthy" sequels such as Caddyshack 2, Analyze That, Blues Brothers 2000, and A Tale of Two Kitties. Sure, it's easy to TALK about how people should only make good sequels. We do it here all the time. But the reality is that times change and fans can't go home again. Ghostbusters 3 already looks set to be considered another 80's disappointment. It's yet another franchise where the original film has been put on a ridiculously high pedestal, while the long-delayed sequel has acquired massive expectations. As Ramis admits, it's going to have to use CGI. Ramis and Murray look nothing like their younger selves, and will be forced to team up with younger sidekicks. Murray's portrayal of Venkman now sounds exactly like Garfield. (The latter is a common criticism of the videogame.) Etc. Etc.
Acquanetta, Ramis... by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 12:39:00 PM
didn't admit they'd have to use CGI? And no film HAS to use it.
Mr. Ramis speaks nothing but good sense here. by FlickaPoo	Jul 10th, 2009 12:44:32 PM

One of the great things aboaut Ghostbusters was... by FlickaPoo	Jul 10th, 2009 12:47:42 PM
...that it really felt like it was happening in New York. Real New York...with hot sticky subway air and unwashed garlic smell of sidewalk pretzel vendors...and ghosts.
Wait, Eddie Murphy hasn't lost anything. by Shermdawg	Jul 10th, 2009 12:48:15 PM
He just has a bad habit of picking shitty films....or films that aren't targeted to US. Face it, the guy has toned down over the years and is the new Cosby.....or wants to be.
FlickaPoo, I agree! by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 12:51:29 PM

I liked Indy 4 by Fart_Master_Flex	Jul 10th, 2009 12:53:15 PM
I mean, I am 30 now, so I knew I would never have the same love that I did for movies I grew up with as a kid. But for what it was, it was good.
If you are responsible for "Year One"... by darthvedder81	Jul 10th, 2009 12:55:07 PM
...you have forfeited the right to criticize Indy 4.
moonlightdrive by Acquanetta	Jul 10th, 2009 12:56:35 PM
He refers to CGI as making the actors appear "animated", then ultimately admits GB3 will include such animation. Note that he also adds, "It will be state of the art, I'm sure." Earlier in the interview, he pointed out that you no longer need to do old-school f/x and that no one does it anymore. This is a similar problem that Spielberg faced with Indy 4, and one reason why they had such trouble finding studio space for all the physical sets. Anyone expecting a Ghostbusters film- released in the next decade- to lack CGI is going to be disappointed. I'm always surprised by the way 80s movies are treated as if they completely shunned modern f/x, and only relied on techniques from the 1960s. As Ramis notes, there were plenty of magazine articles on the f/x of movies like Ghostbusters and Indiana Jones. This is because they were employing the cutting-edge technology of the time.
fuck. that. by mr. smith	Jul 10th, 2009 12:56:38 PM
no thanks
Video Game by Come_ON	Jul 10th, 2009 12:58:47 PM
The game was fine. Nothing special. It was a third person shooter and that is really all there is to it.
ELF ripped off the ending of GHOSTBUSTERS 2 by ZombieHeathLedger	Jul 10th, 2009 12:58:59 PM
with New Yawkers singing in unison a Holiday song to 'power' the MacGuffin that saves the day.
Ghostbusters 2 > Indy 4 by turketron_2	Jul 10th, 2009 01:00:36 PM
DOE RAY EGON
dancetothebeatofthelivingdead by theycallmemrtibbs	Jul 10th, 2009 01:00:48 PM
I remember watching Broken Flowers and waiting for the moment where he blew his brains out. The character he played in that movie to me seemed to be the guy we knew and loved in his earlier films as a grisly old man. Back then Bill Murray was a goofie, fun loving womanizer in just about every movie. The guy he played in Broken Flowers could've been any of those guys he portrayed only that crazy lifestyle finally caught up with him. Lost In Translation: Once again waiting for him to play a little Russian Roulette. Actually I take that back, I was waiting for someone to check his pulse to see if he was still breathing, other than the Karaoke scene that movie was the dryest performances I've ever seen him in. Life Acquatic: had its moments very little of them but it was cool as shit to see Bill murray in a shoot-out with pirates. I'm bringing all this up to say Ghostbusters 3 will not work with Bill Murray if he refuses to be funny anymore, It sucks cause he was one of the best. Sadly, I think Bill Murray we knew and loved died after GroundHog Day
why does lucas have to shit on his own legacy? by crazybubba	Jul 10th, 2009 01:01:55 PM

Put Charlie Murphy in Ghostbusters 3 by turketron_2	Jul 10th, 2009 01:02:40 PM
DO IT.
Dave Chappelle for Ghostbusters 3 by crazybubba	Jul 10th, 2009 01:05:34 PM
DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW
Take that back..... by theycallmemrtibbs	Jul 10th, 2009 01:06:11 PM
He had a little life left in him in Rushmore, after that he croaked.
HE IS VIGO!!! by Shermdawg	Jul 10th, 2009 01:07:31 PM

Apatow's world-view is pretty narrow... by SK229	Jul 10th, 2009 01:16:08 PM
at least when it comes to comedy. He can't seem to make humor out of anything unless it revolves around sex, relationships, judaism, doing drugs, or his wife, and how she is able to see that smart, funny, wimpy guys are better. But could he give us something like Blues Brothers, Ghostbusters, Caddyshack, Coming to America, National Lampoon's Vacation, or The Burbs? Hell, can ANYONE give us comedy like that anymore? Fuckin John Landis back in the day could rip out Apatow's larynx, piss on it, then go shoot the greatest music video ever made to clear his throat. Same thing with Ramis, these guys mined humor from EVERYTHING. I think it takes a lot more intelligence and objectivity to do the kind of films they made.
Indy 4 was almost as shitty as that embed. by Saluki	Jul 10th, 2009 01:18:40 PM
And Ghostbusters 2 has an equal amount of memorable lines as the first, but lacks some of the genuine candor.
No one who is old enough to have seen by Subtitles_Off	Jul 10th, 2009 01:20:37 PM
either of the previous GB movies in the theater is likely to be slobbering in anticipation for a third. Been there, done that, have done moved on.
Shermdawg: by jimmy rabbitte	Jul 10th, 2009 01:23:42 PM
Just click on the "Play" icon; there is no photo connected to it, with this player.
Acquanetta, I still don't by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 01:24:10 PM
agree he admitted that it will be all CGI but I guess that's just because everyone has their own interpretation on everything they see, hear and do. However, I am not suggesting it wont be, it's likely it will be (if it gets made). However, I saw the Marshmellow Man scene recently on TV and thought it still looked awesome and held up. I'd like to see more films these days use the old techniques. Ramis talked about whether CGI distanced people from the film they're watching and didn't really come to a conclusion. I would suggest it does. I think for the most part the older techniques look more real and as if they're happening in the moment (because in a way they're, they're at least 'real') whereas the CGI stuff often looks obviously fake with the exception of exceptional work like Transformers among many others.
TROPICTHUNDER does not exist in this dojo by Cobra--Kai	Jul 10th, 2009 01:27:27 PM
New GHOSTBUSTERS with old actors. Very, very bad idea. Indy 4 all over again. Reunite TROPIC THUNDER cast and director - Stiller, Black, Downey Jnr. They could be the NEW generation of Ghostbusters. Maybe even throw in Adam Sandler or Sacha Baron Cohen. Ricky Gervais as the Peck character.
SK229, Ramis is not by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 01:28:33 PM
an exceptional player in the comic movie world.
by Cobra--Kai	Jul 10th, 2009 01:31:06 PM
To generate the hype, the excitement, the box office returns they need the current big guns of comedy. How many ten year olds are going to drag their folks to the theatre to see aged and portly Akroyd, Ramis and Murray in their advanced years?
no one could replace bill murray. by crazybubba	Jul 10th, 2009 01:32:31 PM

Caddyshack, Ghostbusters, and National Lampoon's Vacation? by SK229	Jul 10th, 2009 01:35:05 PM
...not to mention Animal House, Groundhog Day, Stripes, and even smaller comedies that everyone forgets but I think are funny, like Club Paradise and Armed and Dangerous? You look at that list and think Ramis cannot be exceptional when it comes to comedy? I'm not baiting, I'm serious, do you really think that he isn't that great? I'll agree that his best days are probably behind him, but I'm comparing the output of people like him (just look at the list I gave you) to the films Apatow has done (writing or directing or producing) and saying that I think the range of subjects and the type of humor of these guys was far more broad than the comedy we have today, which basically are all romantic comedies taken to the nth degree with some frat humor thrown in. There are a few exceptions, like Tropic Thunder, but that's the way it is, for the most part.
Cobra--Kai, some of what you... by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 01:35:08 PM
typed I might go with. TT was way over-rated but the actors you suggest might be OK. However, that's hardly a new generation as those guys are pretty old already. Hell NO(!) to Sandler and Gervais though.
Yay for non interview by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 01:35:42 PM
Reminds me of every panel at comic con where they can't reveal anything so they just BS for an hour.
Indy 4 was awesome! by theyreflockingthisway	Jul 10th, 2009 01:36:13 PM
I don't care what you all say about it, I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. It's my second favourite Indy film after Raiders and is a fantastic adventure film I've enjoyed re-watching a number of times now. Ghostbusters 3 will get the same treatment as Indy 4 did. People will hate it simply because it's not the same as their childhood memories. You can't replicate that feeling of watching the film when you were a child with a greater imagination. The thing is, though, a lot of fans still will love Ghostbusters 3, just as the Indy fans who are not trying to live in 1980's for their entire life enjoyed Indy 4. I'll just be sad when they're doing another sequel to Back to the Future and people are saying "well it can't be worse than Ghostbusters 3" and I'll have to, in vain, try to explain why I loved it.
Bumpasses Dawg... by Captain Happy	Jul 10th, 2009 01:36:23 PM
Exactly...I want to reprint what you wrote with the hope that SOMEONE involved in the movie reads it...it is ABSOLUTELY the right way to go: "They play off the fact that they are all OLD MEN now. Murray and Ramis should stay gray and bearded. Aykroyd should stay fat. They should be well retired and pulled back against their will and aching joints. I have heard a rumor that the new Ghostbusters will be all young women. How wounding for Murray's Venkman would it be to have them look at the original Ghostbusters as creepier than actual ghosts?" Rumor or no rumor, the idea for the new ghostbusters to be young women sucks, though. The way to go is a "Space Cowboys" vibe with the old Ghostbusters charm. I'd look forward to that one.
Also Ramis bashing Skull is funny. GH II was by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 01:37:07 PM
worse than Skull.
by Cobra--Kai	Jul 10th, 2009 01:37:32 PM
Sad truth is Bill Murray aged 60 couldn't replace Bill Murray aged 30. He's still a great actor, but no longer a leading man for a Summer Blockbuster movie.
speaking of Bill Murray... by just pillow talk	Jul 10th, 2009 01:37:36 PM
Caddyshack was on last night. So I jump ship to Hong Kong....
Cobra--Kai, I agree with your box office by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 01:37:57 PM
comment but isn't it enough for it to be a Ghostbusters film to pull people in? They have the game out that will be being played by all ages. And going back to casting, Stiller and Downey Jr. are similar comic actors to Murray et al. Sandler Gervais, Cohen are not. They don't play the same type of roles [well] and films that a 'Ghostbusters' is.
by Cobra--Kai	Jul 10th, 2009 01:41:52 PM
I think the Stiller, Black, Downey Jnr, Sandler, Gervais generation of comics is the age to go for. After all the original Ghostbusters weren't young guys, they must've all been around 30 at least. I wouldn't want this to go to the Apatow crew - those pups ain't ready for this gig.
SK229, as I posted before... by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 01:42:08 PM
Armed and Dangerous I liked and Groundhog Day. Amimal House is OK but over-rated (and I think I heard Ramis say recently he didn't have much to do with it) and Caddyshack is OK. Look at all that he has done on IMDB and when Apatow is done they will be comparable. I'm not a fasn of Apatow especially his group of actors but I think he is comparable to Ramis (in years to come). Ramis's films have also had a lot of frat humour. And if you compare comedy content in their films it's probably equal for subjects albeit different ones.
moonlightdrive by Acquanetta	Jul 10th, 2009 01:42:27 PM
No, I wasn't suggesting the film would be "all cgi". Merely pointing out that it WILL have to employ the technique. It's what qualifies as cutting edge f/x in today's world. And once you do that in a classic film like Ghostbusters, you're automatically going to anger purists. Hey personally, I think matte paintings look much better than cgi. But I also realize that a lot of it is due to my own personal bias. It's easy to accept old-fashioned f/x in a movie that is 20 years old. They perfectly fit the movie because it was a perfect marriage at the time. However, I'm not convinced that the same optical f/x would hold up in today's world. Despite all the criticsm, Spielberg did make quite an effort to keep Indy 4 old school. He shot on film, built practical sets, edited by hand, etc. But at the end of the day, it's never going to look the same as it did three decades ago. You're working with a crew that isn't used to those outdated methods and using equipment that is FAR more advanced. It's easy to suggest that no one should employ CGI, but that's just not what they're doing over at ILM these days.
by Cobra--Kai	Jul 10th, 2009 01:44:10 PM
moonlight, I disagree I think Sandler could play a Ghostbuster pretty well. He'd fit the mechanic suit, pizza eating slob look good enough. Gervais would be a terrible Ghostbuster, but as a 'this man has no dick' Peck type he'd be good.
Ghostbusters doesn't need a current big named star by theyreflockingthisway	Jul 10th, 2009 01:44:46 PM
to smash the box office. The fact it's Ghostbusters is definately enough. I hate the idea of a film needing a big star to be good. If I was a film director (and it was an ideal world), unless it was a sequel, I'd try to cast as many unkowns as I could for each film (providing they're good actors of course). I'm not against celebrity or anything like that. Hell I even enjoy most of Bill Murray's stuff, but I just hate the idea that a film will not be a success unless it has "starring Tom Cruise" or someone on the poster.
Ah Ramis, keep slamming movies people like by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 01:44:51 PM
while people keep avoiding the shit films you have made. You peaked in the 80's.
theyreflockingthisway by HoboCode	Jul 10th, 2009 01:45:50 PM
Well said.
Cobra--Kai, OK I agree... by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 01:46:45 PM
with the age, just not all the actors mentioned. I love Black but maybe not for this. Sandler and Cohen hell no. They're best at their own work. Especially Cohen.
theyreflockingthisway ditto HoboCode's comment by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 01:47:58 PM

At least he was honest by Come_ON	Jul 10th, 2009 01:48:21 PM
So because he makes movies I guess that means he can't have an opinion on other movies? Indy 4 was and will remain a pathetic cash grab.
The Play icon is not the embedded video by ulcer	Jul 10th, 2009 01:49:09 PM
you need to wait a while for the actual video player to load. the play icon is just a place holder while it loads
Indy 4 was in development for 19 years by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 01:50:08 PM
Yeah, what a cash grab that was.
Acquanetta, you make good points.. by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 01:50:55 PM
I am defeated and sad at the demise of the old school effects :( However, I liked the look of Indy. I thought the look of what they did compared well to the old films and still looked decent as a modern movie.
moonlightdrive by just pillow talk	Jul 10th, 2009 01:52:22 PM
I have to disagree with you vehemently. Animal House is NOT overrated and Caddyshack is funny as hell.
best part of Indy 4: motorcycle chase by just pillow talk	Jul 10th, 2009 01:53:16 PM
Why? Old school without digitized monkeys/cliffs/etc.
Ghostbuster cartoon.. by ulcer	Jul 10th, 2009 01:53:37 PM
Seriouly the people who argue that the ghostbuster cartoon was good, better than the Ghostbuster, must be really young. this interview is precisly for us who like ghostbuster for the caracters, the actors. it's not about the damn running about after ghosts with gadgets. this is about doing a proper sequel to a classic
Come_ON, you're right... by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 02:01:15 PM
at least he was honest and in the celeb/movie/Hollywood/LA world that is a refreshing change because most of the time it's just a bunch of sycophants.
What is a Torg and a Slor? by Pissed Off And Bitter	Jul 10th, 2009 02:05:42 PM
Always wanted to know. Are they like giant slugs?
just pillow talk, OK but... by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 02:06:02 PM
I think it is haha and you're entitled to your opinion. I think AH is OK but it's not as special as people make it out to be. A lot of films have this scenario happen to them. When they come out they're OK but then people talk about them with friends and they get more enjoyment from the film because of this interaction about it with their friends. This connection with the film then gets passed back onto the film in increased praise, warmth and love for it. However, the actual film has remained the same and not changed. Therefore, in it's original state it is just OK. Same with Anchorman (over-rated, people love it more because of their shared quotes and comments with each other about it).
Moonlightdrive by SK229	Jul 10th, 2009 02:06:24 PM
I see what you're saying, but just for National Lampoon's Vacation (I went on many car trips with my family as a kid in the 80's, including Disney World), Ramis is a comedic genius, imho. All of that humor is based on just wanting your family to have a good time, plus some peripheral humor, and sight gags, like the luggage falling off the top of the car in the beginning. There are OTHER characters in that universe besides "guys who hang out together" - all of Apatow's characters, like Eugene Levy's sleazy car dealer and Roy Wally himself. I'm just using that movie as one example of humor that is A WORLD AWAY from what Apatow typically does. Don't get me wrong, I'd LIKE to see him prove me wrong and do a funny movie about plumbers or some other 'world' or situation we're all familiar with, but I doubt he's capable. I haven't seen anything yet to prove that he can do humor that doesn't A) reference other movies (the die hard joke in the new trailer) or B) revolve around relationship, sex, doing drugs, or guys hanging out... and judaism. But I see what you're saying, that Ramis' output is put on a pedestal when he really has had quite a few clunkers. But even then, he did Groundhog Day, a movie that could easily just turn into a one-note gimmick, but winds up possessing a depth you wouldn't think it deserved. Objectively, I think, it's a proven fact that Apatow does not have the range of these people, ESPECIALLY John Landis at his height, who really was a fucking madman when it came to mixing genres and elements together to produce something fresh and new and FUNNY AS HELL. And you know what, it's OK that Apatow does what he does, and he's actually quite good at it, but the way everyone acts like he's the second coming of comedy, people like Ramis included, is ridiculous. Until he shows some range, he really is a one-trick pony who keeps regurgitating the same ideas and characters over and over again. Do you think any of HIS stable of actors could go from Carl Spackler to Venkman like Murray can? Or Chevy Chase going from the playboy in Caddyshack to the everyman father of Vacation? Eddie Murphy from the ghetto in Trading Places to royalty in Coming to America? I couldn't see Seth Rogen or Jonah Hill doing any of that. Maybe they could, but then they'd need to SHOW US at some point.
Yes, it's so honest for Ramis to bash movies by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 02:06:47 PM
while at the same time producing such "classics" as Year One.
Btw, I agree AH is a little overrated... by SK229	Jul 10th, 2009 02:09:00 PM
but it did perfectly capture a kind of anarchic humor that was brewing for a while before it was made. It's one of those movies that's remembered more, I think, for marking a moment than for what it actually is.
DO NOT MAKE THIS FILM!!! by Six Demon Bag	Jul 10th, 2009 02:09:13 PM
why???? this will be phoned in by all parties just as much as the last one. by the way, Indy 3 kicked GB2s ass in 89. so i think this wont do any better. 2 decade old series dont survive. let it go. please.
AH and Caddyshack kind of bore me by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 02:15:03 PM
They're on TV all the time. They're just not funny anymore.
SK229, you're last paragraph... by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 02:19:57 PM
is spot on. I love Landis he is great and National Lampoon's Vacation IS way better than anything Apatow has churned out. I do appreciate a lot of Landis and Ramis comedy a lot more than Apatow. I agree with your comments on Apatow. Sadly, I think the comedy he is doing works today with the way society is and it's what they (the people) want and like. That's not to say that if something better was produced that wouldn't be equally successful (or more so). However, the fact that Apatow is praised and has been as successful as he has along with his group of actors simply proves that sadly there isn't anything better out there at the moment and that because of this people are excepting this mediocrity as being excellence, which saddens me deeply :(
lockesbrokenleg, this is a common... by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 02:23:48 PM
problem. When someone says something, it simply means what they're saying in that sentence. It doesn't mean anything else. By Ramis making those comments about Indy 4 it doesn't mean he is saying Year One is a much better film (although granted he may feel this way, as his later comments suggest). For the record I agree Year One is terrible and Indy 4 (which I enjoyed but didn't feel it was great) was the better film.
Another swipe at Lucas by Arteska	Jul 10th, 2009 02:26:17 PM
It's like the site needs it daily like people need oxygen. The guy above linked to Vern's review of Indy4 and it's spot on. I'm at the point where Lucasbashers' and Indyhaters' words are as relevant as when my mom starts parroting something Bill O'Reilly said.
Well, they're all filmmakers by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 02:28:55 PM
Why does Ramis need slam Lucas? I don't get it. Lucas is allowed to make movies. Sure, it's all fun and cool to slam Lucas, but we still go see his movies. It's being hypocritical.
saw Ramis at the Leonard Cohen concert by oisin5199	Jul 10th, 2009 02:38:56 PM
in Chicago a few months ago. He was sitting a few rows ahead of me. Was talking with some people during the break. Seemed like a mensch. I wish him luck on this.
What we really need by skimn	Jul 10th, 2009 02:42:03 PM
SCTV-THE MOVIE...Outside of Candy and Moranis, everyone's available, no?
Ramis should retire now he looks OLD!! by genrefanboy	Jul 10th, 2009 02:42:11 PM
I mean lets be honest here. Back in the 1970's/80's he was pretty much on fire. After he fell out bigtime with Bill Murray over Murray deviating from the script in Groundhog Day most of his projects since then have sucked more than a crack whore on heat!!! Putting Indy4 down is also laughable considering Ramis recent track record. Indy4 was the most popular movie in 2008 at the global (outside US) box office beating TDK by $1M but still beating it to No1. I was willing to give GB3 a chance now I could not care less as this guy's attitude is so wrong where if you watch carefully Ramis says they are doing it for money only as thats the one thing he did not mention so you know that means it's probably true. Murray is the one who of these 3 original ghostbusters who retained some of his talent since the glory days and we all know his costly divorce is the major reason this is even having script development as Billy boy needs the greenback's. ....and we are led to believe that the writers of a crappy US sitcom are the only guys who can turn something filmable in... please give me a break thats just an insult. GB3 will be a family friendly PG rated CGI borefest (SPI will handle CGI as they are a Sony company so it will be cheaper). The original GBers will probably have limited screentime and in the role of mentors to hand over to their new much younger better looking understudies. This script writes itself just look at the humour in Caddyshack, GB1+2 throw in 2000 kid friendly CG shots and some favorite TV actors and you have GB3 coming to theatres in summer 2011 1 month after Spiderman4 lands.
Embed sucks, site sucks. Can't get through 30 seconds by JuanSanchez	Jul 10th, 2009 02:44:44 PM
without the video freezing or skipping. WTF, Portman?
RedHorseVector by XoanonTORN	Jul 10th, 2009 02:48:48 PM
What is the storyline? I haven't played and my PC thinks it is 1994.
making of...the worst streaming video site ever by jambone	Jul 10th, 2009 02:49:06 PM
is a hamster powering their site?
That shaggy Jew ate Egon! What the hell? by Puddleglum	Jul 10th, 2009 02:51:47 PM
I'm still 40/60 on a new GB movie. 40% curious to see what comes of it, 60% think it won't be worth the time and money to make a movie that'll pale in comparison to the original. I want to be proven wrong, but methinks the odds are against it. They really should just make "new" GB stories in the form of videogames.
Egon is a fat retard and by smiteboy	Jul 10th, 2009 02:53:35 PM
Year One blows dog balls
lockesbrokenleg, did Ramis slam by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 02:56:44 PM
Lucas or was he just giving his opinion. Did he mention Lucas (I honestly can't remember, just watched it once) or was he just talking about the actual movie that was made (by more than Lucas), Indy 4.
WHOA WHOA WHOA!! Caddyshack & AH overrated? by finky089	Jul 10th, 2009 02:58:46 PM
compared to what? If you're comparing it to ANY comedy film made in the last 40 years, you've made a major error in judgement and need a dose of Ritalin to lengthen that attention span so you can actually appreciate the humor in these films. What next? You think NL's Vacation is "humorless"? To that I say: Fuck yo' mama! (Thankyouverymuch.)
genrefanboy, you've made some by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 02:58:52 PM
really interesting points. I don't want to believe them but...they could all be true :(
Caddyshack owns Animal House by JuanSanchez	Jul 10th, 2009 02:59:48 PM

Saw the vid - Ramis doesn't say "Lucas" by finky089	Jul 10th, 2009 03:00:47 PM
He basically says Indy IV failed to deliver on its hype (I think we knew that would happen) and inferred that some of it was related to non-optical effects, the later of which was mostly targeted at TF, GI Joe and another un-named movie.
But, it's pretty obvious from Ramis' body of work that- by finky089	Jul 10th, 2009 03:03:07 PM
he's not an "effects" kind of guy. He might like to watch movies which require big effects , particularly for world destruction, but how many of his movies have been even remotely effects-heavy? GB is the only one I can think of with any frequency of effects that were an important part of the film. (And, no, the groundhog puppet in the pick-up truck doesn't have enough screentime to count!)
GB 3: Sgt Hulka's Ghost by finky089	Jul 10th, 2009 03:06:57 PM
put's his Big Toe up your ass!
please please please by GimmeABreak	Jul 10th, 2009 03:09:32 PM
If they make this, please don't make all the ghoulies CGI ... that would be awful. See: Indy 4's monkeys :(
lockesbrokenleg by Come_ON	Jul 10th, 2009 03:13:15 PM
Yeah, it is "honest" of him. He didn't like Indy 4. Year One may be terrible but I don't see how that means he had to like Indy 4. And dicking around for 20 years and talking about it from time to time doesn't really constitute something being "in development". Ford, Spielberg and Lucas were free and put it together rather quickly, for that huge of a movie anyway. Luckily I've never made a movie so I'm allowed to have opinions on them I guess.
by Cobra--Kai	Jul 10th, 2009 03:13:50 PM
VACATION is not only a classic. It features Beverly D'Angelo's breasts. The mother of all MILF's.
Indy IV and the hate - Get over it! by thepoohguy	Jul 10th, 2009 03:23:46 PM
All of you need to get over the hate for Indy 4. It is what it should have been. Action packed with strange f/x, and over the top story. Do none of you remember why Spielberg created Indy in the first place. To be more of like a comic book serial. For those of you saying Indy 4 was the worst movie they have ever seen, they must not have seen Year One. And no Moranis and Potts will make this movie the worst one of the three and probably in the bottom of the movies of that year.
Caddyshack is hilarious... by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS	Jul 10th, 2009 03:27:19 PM
but I don't care all that much for Animal House. It has it's moments. Revenge of the Nerds and Porky's are funnier movies in my opinion.
Ramis shouldn't throw shit by barnaby jones	Jul 10th, 2009 03:31:46 PM
because with his movie track record he'll likely drop it on his own head. Seriously the man hasn't made a decent film for years, and i chuckled through most of Year One. I don't think hack directors really have the right to bad mouth infinitley superior ones.
Ramis by Come_ON	Jul 10th, 2009 03:37:44 PM
He simply said he didn't like Indy 4. Apparently that is a crime. And I realize this being the internet opinions are no longer subjective but are God's word, but still, it was just his opinion. People who makes movies, even bad ones, have opinions on other movies. I know that may be shocking, but it's true.
Who ever thought... by Come_ON	Jul 10th, 2009 03:38:55 PM
There was so much hate for Harold Ramis in the world? He seems like a nice enough guy but he didn't like Indy 4 so he must be a child molester.
Alienswear, I like some of your choices... by moonlightdrive	Jul 10th, 2009 03:41:45 PM
I'd add Paul Rudd but I still just want the old crew. Not fussed about Moranis though but it'd be nice to see him (especially after this long break).
Ah Ramis, you killed Ghostbusters with 2 by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 03:42:23 PM
and the only people buying the game are people under 20.
Ramis by peytonallen	Jul 10th, 2009 03:43:53 PM
Is great. But, the shot at INDY 4 is laughable. Why is he acting like Ghostbusters 2 wasn't a piece of shit? So this idea that they're holding off on the right idea and don't wanna cheat the fans is funny. That already did that once. I'd go see GB3 just to see Murray again. But, the chances a good script gets churned out is slim to none.
Now, now children... by little_lebowski	Jul 10th, 2009 03:51:20 PM
You're free to like or not like a movie. But suggesting that people who don't share you're assessment of it are wrong? Now that's entirely douchey, and not acting like that would save us hours of having to hear you bastards go back and forth over a piece of entertainment that's not worth getting that worked up about.
I got one word for the whole Indy 4 comment by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 03:58:38 PM
Evolution. Yes Ramis had nothing to do with it, but it was directed by the guy who did Ghostbusters, everyone seems to forget that Ramis didn't fucking direct Ghostbusters. If you can honestly say you enjoyed Evolution more then Indy 4, or thought it was a smarter better movie then I think you should question your sanity. The movie starred Donkey Lips and Stifler. There is nothing worse or more offensive then that crap of a movie.
Ramis thinks he's Ivan Reitman or something by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 04:01:44 PM
Now that fucker can direct a movie, and get funny performances. Ramis has been copying his style for years.
Series7 by Come_ON	Jul 10th, 2009 04:14:26 PM
So now he can't have an opinion because a guy he's worked with before made a bad movie? Is this going to turn into some 6 Degrees time game where if you are connected to anyone within 6 steps that has ever had anything to do with a bad movie you can never voice your opinion? Wow.
Harrison Ford was wasn't offered $65 million by IndyCollector	Jul 10th, 2009 04:17:38 PM
For Indy IV. It's his cut of the box office take. I don't think he took an upfront acting fee but rather a share of the final box office.
Opinion by Come_ON	Jul 10th, 2009 04:17:59 PM
Does this only apply to writers and directors or are actors included? If so I hope Harrison Ford has never voiced an opinion on a movie seeing as how "Hollywood Homicide" graces his resume.
No effects in Ramis films? by skimn	Jul 10th, 2009 04:19:19 PM
Multipicity is almost wall to wall effects with the multiple Keatons. Anywho, lets remember what Landis directed, what Reitman directed, and what Ramis directed and not lump them altogether. And Groundhogs Day is where it all came together for Ramis, like lightning in a bottle, I doubt if he'll be reach that height again.
Come_ON by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 04:21:41 PM
What I was saying is that Ramis didn't fucking direct Ghostbusters, Reitman did and he has since made a much worse movie then Indy 4. So Ramis can act like Indy 4 sucks but its a lot better then the crap Reitman and Ramis are doing these days.
Series7 by Come_ON	Jul 10th, 2009 04:26:17 PM
I don't know if he's "acting" like it sucked, I don't know what he could possibly have to gain from that other than being torn apart by nerds.
Benicio Del Toro and Vincent Gallo as GBs or FUCK OFF!!! by Six Demon Bag	Jul 10th, 2009 04:30:29 PM
and Jeffrey Wright! there, i expect my check in the mail hollywood.
Bill Murray in Kingpin by pumaman	Jul 10th, 2009 04:32:42 PM
THAT'S the Bill I want to see in the new Ghostbusters movie. That would make me chuckle.
Eugene Levy in the first Vacation... by Alfred_Packer	Jul 10th, 2009 04:34:00 PM
The look on his face when he first sees Clark pull up is 100% comedy gold....
Series 7 by TedKordLives	Jul 10th, 2009 04:34:43 PM
Evolution starred David Duchovny, Orlando Jones and Julianne Moore, douche. And I enjoyed it a hell of a lot more that Indy 4, so fuck off. Four words-Shia Lebouf Nut Shots. 'Fruit basket for Series 7!'
Ramis' Candor... by Acquanetta	Jul 10th, 2009 04:34:45 PM
...only seems genuine up to a point. Once he starts talking about Year One being perceived as a breath of fresh air, it tends to diminish the entire interview. He's obviously being interviewed for a very fanboy-centric audience, and he clearly understands this fact. But I agree that Year One alone does not invalidate his opinion of Indy 4. However, what does reflect poorly on it is his own track record for sequels. This man wrote Caddyshack 2 and Analyze That. It's also worth noting that Ghostbusters 2 was considered disappointing upon release, even though Ramis gave this same "sequel" speech at the time. Put another way, EVERY sequel his name is attached to (which includes Meatballs 3) has been regarded as a disappointment. In that context, it's definitely laughable to hear him suggest he would never be part of a cash-in sequel.
"I know what must have happened..." by Alfred_Packer	Jul 10th, 2009 04:34:49 PM
"It didnt come in!"
I don't know if I could ever agree that Animal House is overrate by ufoclub1977	Jul 10th, 2009 04:37:40 PM
I could have that movie on at any time, repeatedly, every frame and music cue and line seem to add together into a mood that is solid. I cannot say that for many comedies including the current The Hangover. There are very simple moments like Belushi and the mustard jar where the edit and the action are almost abstract in the way they work to a funny end.
best line in GB2 by Alfred_Packer	Jul 10th, 2009 04:38:36 PM
"So your alien had a motel room at the Holiday Inn in Paramus".."It might have been a spaceship designed to look like a motel room, I can't be sure about that"
Indy 4.....oh Indy 4..... by Sicuv Uyall	Jul 10th, 2009 04:40:38 PM
You guys still defend it, but let me just say. Ghostbusters 2 sucked... but it was more entertaining than Crystal Skull. Fuck, Scary Movie 3 was a more satisfying movie! Hell, 5 minutes of I Know Who Killed Me was more enjoyable than that piece of shit Indy movie!! Take the worst Harold Ramis movie and the worst Ivan Reitman movie, and you'll still have something that would be 10X better than that last Indy movie.. GODDAMMIT LUCAS, I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!!
Best line in GB2: by TedKordLives	Jul 10th, 2009 04:49:37 PM
'Oh Johnny did you back the wrong horse!"-Venkman gold, baby.
Ramis is right, Series7 wrong by Sicuv Uyall	Jul 10th, 2009 04:51:55 PM
Lucas, Spielberg, and Harrison made a FORTUNE off Indy 4. They laughed all the way to bank with money they ripped off from you and me!! They also convinced half of you, including some idiot film critics, that it was a halfway decent film... sometimes nostalgia can blind the senses. It all added up to a great payday for these guys. Next up for Lucas, how to get more milk out of the cash cow that is STAR WARS!!! Oh i know!! Let's make it 3D!!!! See you at the Star Wars Spectacular at Comic Con, suckers!!!!!
The best part of GH2 is the courtroom scene by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 04:55:42 PM
After that, it's pretty much downhill.
They did a story like that in the Ghostbusters cartoon by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 05:04:33 PM
Sony is filming a movie based on the Ghostbusters, but real ghosts attack the soundstages, and the ghostbusters save the day. The episode ends with the gang watching the movie, and Peter goes, "The guy playing me looks nothing like me." They even used actual film footage.
best GB2 quote by Six Demon Bag	Jul 10th, 2009 05:07:46 PM
and that’s the whole problem with aliens is that you just can’t trust them. Ocassionally you meet a nice one, Starman, E.T. but usually they turn out to be some kind of big lizard!”
lockes by Six Demon Bag	Jul 10th, 2009 05:09:37 PM
just watched that ep with my son..awesome how the guy doing venkmen also did garfield in the cartoon..then murray did garfield film..full circle baby!
Worst GB2 Quote: by TedKordLives	Jul 10th, 2009 05:14:00 PM
'Better late than never.' Get the fuck outta my Ghostbusters movie, Cheech!
I'd like to post on Natalie Portman's sight by Falafalguy	Jul 10th, 2009 05:25:25 PM

Fuck anyone who calls Spielberg a hack by MattmanReturns	Jul 10th, 2009 05:29:06 PM
He's a hack why? Just because he made an Indy movie you didn't like? Nevermind the fact that he made Raiders, Jaws, Close Encounters, Empire of the Sun, Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan, Munich, Minority Report, etc. Every director has failures. When you have as many wonderful films under your belt as Spielberg, you're bound to have a Lost World or Indy 4 from time to time. Jesus, shut the fuck up.
RAMIS YOU MADE GROUNDHOG DAY by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 05:30:46 PM
And that was decent, but don't slam Indiana Jones cause it wasn't a remake of Raiders.
Who the fuck called Spielberg a hack? by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS	Jul 10th, 2009 05:32:18 PM
Seriously, who?
Where were you guys when I tried to defend Crystal Skull by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Jul 10th, 2009 05:34:05 PM
Oh, now that the writer of the main article is all supporting Harold Ramis against it I guess you got to get all rebellious now
As if GHOSTBUSTERS will be any better than INDY 4! by Mr_Incredible	Jul 10th, 2009 05:41:08 PM
You just know it's gonna suck. They waited too long, just like with Indiana Jones. It might work with the original four back for another case or one last case, but the minute Jack Black or Ben Stiller or one of Apatow's boys is announced, you know it's gonna be two hours of nostalgia fucked in the ass,
^GOSTBUSTERS 3 by Mr_Incredible	Jul 10th, 2009 05:41:43 PM

fassbinder79 called him a hack by MattmanReturns	Jul 10th, 2009 05:55:34 PM

Ramis looks like Judd Hirsch now by Riley Martin	Jul 10th, 2009 06:16:59 PM
Maybe he should do a remake of TAXI instead
Someone remind Ramis not to smile when he plays Egon by AlexandraDupontsBellyButton	Jul 10th, 2009 06:45:29 PM

MattmanReturns by Logan_1973	Jul 10th, 2009 06:47:55 PM
I appreciate your natural instinct to defend Spielberg, and I feel the same, but let facts be facts: The guy hasn't hit a bona-fide home run since RYAN in '98. INDY 4 was supposed to be a heralded return to form, and when it fell short, everyone's frustrations boiled over.
Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz Director for this... PLEASE!!! by enricociampa	Jul 10th, 2009 06:49:32 PM
I thing Edgar Wright is the roght man for this job... it would be amazing!
Fat, old Ghostbusters? by REVENGE_of_FETT	Jul 10th, 2009 07:09:46 PM
Ummm, NO SPANK YOU! And remember folks, this is the genious behind Meatballs III and Analyze That!
Peter Jackson's Ghostbusters! by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 07:24:13 PM
Get someone with a vision for FILM who could do it justice. Make it like Men in Black. I don't want it boring and sterile with jokes from 20 years ago.
Sam Raimi's Ghostbusters by TedKordLives	Jul 10th, 2009 07:27:03 PM
Think about that for ten seconds.
JJ Abrams Ghost Busters by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 07:33:25 PM

agreed turd. by Six Demon Bag	Jul 10th, 2009 07:42:06 PM
its done..come to think of it, it was done in 1989. when you have a cartoon on saturday mornings, you cant return...unless you're the smurfs apparently.
DO NOT MAKE THIS FILM!!!!!!! by Six Demon Bag	Jul 10th, 2009 07:46:06 PM

Man lot of Evolution fans out there by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 08:02:48 PM
What fucking rock did you all come out of. And for TedKordLives, I don't think stating that the movie really stared Orlando Jones really helps you and the rest of the Evolution fan club's case. And still Donkey Lips and that guy who played Harry Knowles played retards in Evolution and saved the day because they figured out that the monster could be killed by fucking head and shoulders. Evolution at the time was touted as being the "Next Ghostbusters" and such, so I guess if that's the direction you want Ghostbusters to go in??? For my money I'd rather see Shia swinging with Apes.
Enough with the updates, I want some confirmations! by ganymede3010	Jul 10th, 2009 08:30:54 PM
Christ, they've been teasing us for the last 3 years for crying out loud. I'm tired of hearing Akroyd and Ramis talking about the project. I want them to stop dicking around and get the ball rolling before everyone is to old to reprise their roles.
Can we see a trailer, or something? by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 08:36:03 PM
Just put the words GH3 on it. Maybe some footage? I don't want to see old man Ramis blabbing about his hatred for Indiana Jones.
Benico Del Toro and fat guy from The Hangover as new GBS!! by odo19	Jul 10th, 2009 08:36:35 PM
or..yeah...fuck off.
Valentine's Day. Bummer. by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 10th, 2009 08:42:48 PM

Series 7 by TedKordLives	Jul 10th, 2009 08:48:23 PM
I'm not claiming that it's anywhere near GB level. I'd say it's about 70% GB, 25% MIB, and 5% Farrelly Bros. It's a watered down sci-fi GB, but it still has its merits. Duchovny is super funny in it-I don't know why he isn't offered more overt comedic roles. Fun Fact-The original script for Evolution was a completely serious take on the premise.
Once and for all, about Indy 4 box-office by makeitbig	Jul 10th, 2009 09:01:51 PM
I think a lot of talkbackers don't get some of the concepts we're talking about (or maybe they were badly explained). The success of Indy 4 (even adjusted for inflation) was comparable to Indy 2 and 3. That means a lot of people liked it. That doesn't mean it is good, but they liked it. Just like the Transformers movies are well liked by the audience (I hated the first one and have no plan to see the second one.) Ghostbusters 2 broke box-office records the first weekend it was released, but plummeted after (it ended up making about half the money the first one made, even with 5 years of inflation in its advantage). The audience didn't like GB2 much. That's it. Perhaps Indy is a more beloved franchise than GB, but if you think the real test will be Indy 5 (if it ever gets made) and that significantly less tickets will be sold, think again. I'm willing to bet it will be just as succesful. Despite claims that everyone hated Phantom Menace, that movie had some of the best legs at the box-office in the last decade. and the sequels were almost just as succesful. Probably that Star Wars fans are slow learners... I'm not saying that you don't have the right to say that a movie sucks, but don't claim that almost everyone is thinking like you. Just like I admit that a lot of people enjoy those awful Transformers movies.
Indy 4 > Merrick by Atticus Finch	Jul 10th, 2009 09:40:36 PM
Indy 4 was one hundred times better written than any of Merrick's posts.
Box Office by Acquanetta	Jul 10th, 2009 09:55:21 PM
Indy 4 didn't just do well at the box office- it received a good critical response as well. Like it or not, those two factors ARE a way to objectively measure a film's peformance. Subjective arguments like "me and all my friends hated it" are not. Unpopular movies don't just magically continue to gross money. If they did, francises would never end. When a film is truly unpopular- for example, Batman and Robin- it's reflected at the box office. Spielberg's goal wasn't to reinvent the wheel, but merely to provide popular escapism for the ENTIRE family. By all indications, he achieved that goal. He may have largely disappointed the fanboy crowd- who generally prefer a darker, more cynical tone- but that was to be expected. The movie was intended as a throwback to an era a lot more innocent than even the 1980s. In fact, many of the film's biggest complaints (ie. family outing; soundstage usage; bright cinematography; themes of patriotism and marriage; etc.) actually fit quite well with the style and era they were attempting to emulate.
No Evolution sucked donkey balls by Series7	Jul 10th, 2009 09:57:45 PM
Sucked on by donkey lips.
Indy 4 or GB3? by pr0g2west	Jul 10th, 2009 10:21:04 PM
I love how there is more being said about Indy in this talkback than GB. You all might not like Indy 4, but you can't stop thinking about it. It made an impact on you, and that is the power of cinema, for better or worse. In reality, there is nothing really Bad about Indy 4, some misplaced moments yes. But a tight, original story is what makes a movie good. And more importantly, how its executed. Indy 4 had all that. Including the centerpiece...Harrison Ford as Indy. The hate comes from deep rooted memories of the first 3 films, and how Indy 4 was nothing like them. If none of the other indy movies were made, indy 4 would have gotten much better acclaim, no doubt about it. I know a few kids who have the Indy 4 dvd and talk about how they've seen it 10, 20 times already, they love it! Children's minds are uncorrupted, their memories are fresh and unfettered by previous ones. They see the world anew...as everyone should every day. The world would be a happier place. Haters...you suck. Lighten the fuck up. Here's an idea, you go make a movie and gain the fanfare of millions of people around the globe, then you can talkback.
I thought I explained my point well... by makeitbig	Jul 10th, 2009 10:39:09 PM
But I was wrong! I forgot to mention the expression "word of mouth". GB2 wasn't as succesful as GB1 because of bad word of mouth. Indy 4 didn't seem to be affected the same way. Because you and a few of your friends didn't like the movie doesn't mean everyone who saw it hated it. Unless the word of mouth didn't work with Indy 4 ("I don't believe you! I will see this movie even if you tell me it sucks!), contrary to GB2 and other franchises! Acquanetta has a good point, film series would go on forever if word of mouth didn't work. At that level of box-office for Indy 4, there's also a lot of repeat business. We'll see with Indy 5....
Jeez, people... by BizarroJerry	Jul 10th, 2009 10:41:29 PM
You made some bad movies, Ramis, so you can't say any other movie is bad! The guy's just being interviewed, and is speaking very honestly about everything. Really, I've gettin' damn sick of people being so mad and pissy and insulting all the time. And he was on Jimmy Fallon recently and referred to GB2 and hinted that, yes, it wasn't so great. In any case, he seems to be in the right state of mind for this. He doesn't want it to just be a quick cashing in on the franchise. I'll give 'em a chance. The video game wasn't on the level of a great comedy, or anything, but it's had some funny bits and lines here and there. What I do notice is that Ackroyd and Ramis gave some better than average voice overs, both very enthusiastic and not phone-ins. Murray, yeah, you can tell his heart's not 100% in it, I think, but it's not bad. Some of it may be Venkman's written kinda lackluster. I think if Murray is actually playing Venkman in a movie again, though, he'll get into it. And his supposed disinterest all these years in returning to GB may have simply been his feeling that it's not needed and should be left alone.
makeitbig... by BizarroJerry	Jul 10th, 2009 10:45:17 PM
I went to see Indy 4 cuz I felt like I HAD to see it. The love of those movies from my youth made me almost feel an obligation to see it, even though early word about it was bad, and I was kind of expecting it to be. As for why it's not really a good movie, I can't really put my finger on it. But I went into that movie giving it the benefit of the doubt so extremely, I kept saying, "even if it's just sorta good, I'll be happy." I swear I felt my self wishing so much that I would like it, that any flaws were exaggerated, etc. But I still could not force myself into not being disappointed.
Year One was GARBAGE. by Cotton McKnight	Jul 10th, 2009 10:47:09 PM
I would watch Indiana Jones 4 over that movie any day of the week. It just amazes me that people who make a movie like that have the nerve to put down something else.
I walked out of Year One by the way. by Cotton McKnight	Jul 10th, 2009 10:53:27 PM
When Jack Black was on the ground eating shit, I thought okay, that's quite enough. I stuck around for the cain and abel scene, which wasn't remotely funny, and I just decided that I didnt want to watch this anymore. I get what you all are trying to say about how he was just speaking his mind and he should be able to criticize other movies. I really do. But good God, he owes us an apology for that movie and Indiana Jones should be the furthest thing from his mind. I mean, Year One is happening right now. It's in theaters (though rapidly fading). Does he not get how awful it was? How can I trust him anymore? On anything?
It's fun for some here to hate on sequels by Orionsangels	Jul 10th, 2009 10:56:57 PM
It's so easy too. It's these great magical movies you grew up with or rather nostalgia vs trying to recapture that magic again. It's impossible to do that and impossible to please everyone. I think if more of us had low expectations for these 20 year span sequels. We'd be more happier and less inclined to bitch so much.
Hating sequels by BizarroJerry	Jul 10th, 2009 11:02:44 PM
But, Orion, I wanted with all my heart to like Indy 4, but at the same time, I wasn't expecting much and figured if I didn't expect a lot, I could like it. I still didn't. As for Year One, were people expecting him to admit Year One sucks even while it's still being sold by the studio in the theaters and eventually on DVD?
Young Ghostbuster #1 = James Franco by ThePorkChopExpress	Jul 10th, 2009 11:27:35 PM
He HAS to be in this movie. His sensibility is a perfect match for this world. He and Bill Murray together would a classic in the making - especially if they could somehow get high together. In fact, screw that, I just want Bill Murray and James Franco to come over and get high with me now. And some chicks.
i like by So-Crates	Jul 10th, 2009 11:36:47 PM
how a bunch of talkbackers who have never a made a movie ever are bashing ramis for daring to have a negative opinion on a film, especially since you are so free to bash Year One (which i've never seen and have no intention of seeing, just find it amusing). half of you guys are the same ones who insist that they have a right to their opinion, but a guy who has had hits and misses in his career dares to have an opinion is just sacrilege. amusing as hell.
RE: i like by Acquanetta	Jul 10th, 2009 11:49:31 PM
Well, you've basically just described Talkback 101. However, what draws Ramis' comments into question is his own pitiful track record with sequels. It would be different if he actually had a reputation for churning out great sequels, but he simply does not. I agree it's unfair to say, "Who is this guy to give his opinion?" What it's not unfair to ask is, "Is this really the best person to be giving sequel advice to others?"
KHHHAAANNNNNNN!!!!!! by Atom_Jack	Jul 11th, 2009 12:06:49 AM
KHHHHAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!!
Ramis has to lose some weight and some hair by FeralAngel	Jul 11th, 2009 12:14:56 AM
Maybe he can lend some to Bill Murray (the hair, I mean). Seriously. I thought Hollywood actors took care of themselves. My big sister saw the first Ghostbusters and was about Ramis' age and she looks fantastic and hasn't had any work done. Just works out a lot and goes to the hairdresser (another beauty tip for Ramis). Seriously, this is depressing. Plastic surgeons all over the damn place in Hollywood and Ramis looks like a streetwalking Father Christmas? Jeezus. Anyway, hopefully all of the gang can do a little cardio and a little plastic before they make this film. Otherwise Slimer will be the best-looking member of the cast.
"It's only the largest freestanding, mud dwelling.. by Sweet Action Hero	Jul 11th, 2009 12:43:11 AM
ever built. That's all."
@Acquanetta by So-Crates	Jul 11th, 2009 01:07:41 AM
I don't disagree with your point that he might not be the best person to be personally giving others advice on how best to make a sequel. What I was railing against wasn't posts like yours though, it's more the ones along the general lines of "how dare he have an opinion at all." bad sequels or not, i still think his opinion is more valid than people (such as myself and countless other talkbackers) who have had little to no experience directing major motion pictures. then again, i'm the guy who will refuse to listen to whatever matt millen has to say this year, so what do i know.
Axel fff, if you won't pay to see Rambo 7 by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Jul 11th, 2009 02:36:02 AM
Who gives a shit what you think about anything else
Elfbusters by Potatino	Jul 11th, 2009 03:02:25 AM
Why not instead of making a sequel or a prequel kind of go off on a tangent or something and make a tangentel(?) and say instead of ghosts make it about elfs or another type of mythical/supernatural creatures being busted? I'de pay to see Elfbusters... eh maybe not.
Edit optional INDY 4 for the DVD market... by thegreatwhatzit	Jul 11th, 2009 03:26:56 AM
Just randomly insert footage from Abbott and Costello's PARDON MY SARONG. To paraphrase Groucho, "Aside from the improvement, they'll never know the difference.
Respect Due to the Work He Did 30 Years Ago by wampa_one	Jul 11th, 2009 04:32:36 AM
But even the worst Indiana Jones concept would be better than Ghostbusters 3. At least Harrison Ford still looks the part & not like someone's clueless, rambling, grandfather.
When Year One came on screen. The world stopped. by Orionsangels	Jul 11th, 2009 04:48:34 AM
Wow what's this? Ringo Starr in Caveman? Wait what? I think Harold Ramis is confused. The reason it got quiet is because everyone fell asleep.
Ghostbusters 3 should have a 2012 theme to it by BDuncan	Jul 11th, 2009 05:24:39 AM
I know Roland Emmerich has a 2012 disaster film that looks like the same moronic dumbed down shit he always does and fucking Michael Bay also has a 2012 themed film he'll be producing, but it'd still be cool if a GB3 film had a supernatural comedy action story set around Dec. 21 2012 and was set either on the day after, or a week after this date.
Indy 4 lovers - open wide for your next helping of Lucashite.... by DiamondJoe	Jul 11th, 2009 05:39:56 AM
...'cause you're the reason the fat fuck is still straining 'em out. FUCK Indy 4 and all those affiliated with that amateurish piece of monstrous shit, especially the twats who say, 'it must be good because it made a ton of money and I thought it was fun'. Fucking quality-blind 'tards.
DiamondJoe by The Bicycle Sharer	Jul 11th, 2009 06:15:46 AM
The Indy 4 defenders are the same fucking morons who spent YEARS defending the second trilogy and who have only recently begun to admit how very shitty they were. Give it about 5 more years for them to admit who wrong they were and how shitty Indy 4 was/is... Of course, by then, they'll be defending the newest POS by Lucas - Howard the Duck II or Radioland Murders II.
The director of Year One slams Indy 4?!?!? by Bastard_In_A_Blanket	Jul 11th, 2009 06:19:10 AM
Huh?
by Spacesheik	Jul 11th, 2009 06:39:04 AM
INDY 4 was shit, looked like it was shot on the universal backlot, all cgi and campy action with the main character tagging along 6 other dudes with nothing to do, the opening scene was an AMERICAN GRAFFITI homage when should have opened in some exotic dangerous temple , the editing was terrible, the john williams score non existent, shia laboeg as tarzan getting hit in the nuts by shrubbery, jeep falling over 3 waterfalls, etc etc - it was the worst indy movie,
INDY 4 was Spielberg's laziest film and the worst in the series by Spacesheik	Jul 11th, 2009 06:44:16 AM
INDY 4 was shit, looked like it was shot on the universal backlot, all cgi and campy action with the main character tagging along 6 other dudes with nothing to do, the opening scene was an AMERICAN GRAFFITI homage when should have opened in some exotic dangerous temple , the editing was terrible, the john williams score non existent, shia laboeg as tarzan getting hit in the nuts by shrubbery, jeep falling over 3 waterfalls, etc etc - it was the worst indy movie very sad, it really dropped the ball on so many issues and the fucking mess ended with a wedding - steven spielbergs laziest film by far, no technical wizardry, no pace, no rousing exitement, and the worst part was cramming the film with all the secondary characters and ignoring indy's archaelogist skills - he never even fired his gun or used his whip in action, it was terrible - at least TEMPLE OF DOOM had a kick ass villain, and great action setpieces - it LOOKED like it was shot in sri lanka
Ramis made GROUNDHOG DAY - a classic by Spacesheik	Jul 11th, 2009 06:48:21 AM
He can say whatever the fuck he wants.
starting to get sick of these shitty embeds! by Maniaq	Jul 11th, 2009 07:21:25 AM
guy, on a serious note, here for a second- if you have to use the embed, so be it - I got no beef with them conceptually - but can you PLEASE include a link to your source AS WELL? thanks now I'm off to youtube to search for a version of this video that wasn't ass-raped at birth...
gb2 makes "Skull" look like "Raiders" by alienindisguise	Jul 11th, 2009 07:28:49 AM
Watched GB2 last night and what a piece of shit..hadn't seen it in a long time. The ghosts were so cartoony and just shitty looking even for the time.The story and everything was just ass. Annie Potts was smoking hot in it though is that fuckable nerd kind of way. GB1 rules but I really don't care for a 3rd.
Absolutely not! by TarjaObsession	Jul 11th, 2009 07:42:29 AM
Stop with the "new Ghostbusters" shit. Please. For the love of God. If they're going to make a sequel to Ghostbusters, then have THE GHOSTBUSTERS. Look at the video game. CG animation: but they were the same voices. Unless they're rebooting this series (which they're not) I refuse to see it with new blood. Ghostbusters has/always will be my favorite movie since I could work a VCR, and having new people star or go as far as replace the others, that's a terrible fucking idea. The generation who grew up with Ghostbusters wants to see GHOSTBUSTERS, not some second-rate substitute.
i take it back by Maniaq	Jul 11th, 2009 07:44:21 AM
went straight to the source and I gotta say that was the most painful 15 minutes I ever had watching a 7 minute video! bastards don't know a damn thing about buffering and they end making you look bad
Why hate on Indie 4? by vezner2007	Jul 11th, 2009 08:15:52 AM
Was it as good as Raiders or Crusade? Not in my opinion but was it as bad as Temple? Hell no. It was a fun film and I don't see why the critics think it sucked so much. It certainly made enough money so I guess this is just another example of the critics not being in touch with the audience. Same thing happened with the new Transformers movie. Every critic hated it but I have yet to talk to a person that thought it didn't rock.
Yay by marcspector	Jul 11th, 2009 08:41:05 AM
A new Ghostbusters sounds great from this video.
Why are we overlooking Ghostbusters 2? by Cotton McKnight	Jul 11th, 2009 09:17:30 AM
Man, if the discussion is movies that don't live up to the original, Mr. Ramis....
Can't argue with Ramis regarding f/x... by thegreatwhatzit	Jul 11th, 2009 11:05:39 AM
Technology has eclipsed story; look no further than Stephen Sommers (ALL tech, zip story; I admit to enjoying only one of his films, i.e. DEEP RISING, homage to 1950s junk food, a la MONSTER THAT CHALLENGED THE WORLD and MONSTER FROM THE OCEAN FLOOR).
Vezner2007.... by DiamondJoe	Jul 11th, 2009 11:16:42 AM
...I refer you to my previous post. You stupid fuck.
IF IT'S UP. TO. US. WE'VE. GOT. TO. TAKE CONTRAAAAL! by GibsonUSA Returns	Jul 11th, 2009 01:35:57 PM
Ahh ah ah ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! (Yes, I musst do that every ghostbusters tb)
Ghostbusters 2 was great. by GibsonUSA Returns	Jul 11th, 2009 01:45:10 PM
I'd take it over most of this summer's movies.
Vezner: by Rev. Slappy	Jul 11th, 2009 01:55:46 PM
I have yet to talk to anybody who doesn't mention Transformers 2 among the very worst movies they have ever seen.
INDY 4 WAS FUCKING AMAZING by Proman1984	Jul 11th, 2009 01:56:24 PM
It was simply TOO GOOD FOR YOU FUCKERS
Edgar Wright is an inspired choice!! by Ecto-1	Jul 11th, 2009 02:08:54 PM
But....sadly, it'll never happen. I'm a die hard Ghostbusters fan, (except for 2, which I have on dvd just for the court room scene), but I think it's just way too late for the original cast to be coming back and acting in a sequel. It's shocking that it's taken 20 years for them to work up the enthusiasm to do this. Ghostbusters fans have always been here, even after the dire second movie. It's not as if we've all suddenly sprung into existence over the past year. I think it's cool to have Ramis and Aykroyd involved in the writing. Is Dan involved in the writing? But, and it pains me to say this greatly, they should keep the characters, but recast with some new faces. There's plenty of good people out there. I don't think that the Apatow comedy style may be a good fit for Ghostbusters though. But, you never know... They should keep Ivan Reitman the hell away from it as he's not made a cool film SINCE Ghostbusters. And yes, as I've said on many occasion, Indy 4 was shite, Ford is way too old, Lucas is only concerned with money, and Spielberg lost the plot a long time ago. However, I do think it's a bit cheeky of Ramis to have a go at other films and film makers, as a film maker himself. It's just bad form old boy!
People like DiamondJoe by vezner2007	Jul 11th, 2009 03:54:18 PM
must live sorry lives because if you think Indie 4, all SW prequels, and the Transformers movies were all shit, then you are a fucktard that is too damn hard to please. I'm 100% confident that Lucas doesn't give a shit or even half a fart about your opinion and thank God he doesn't or his movies would be seriously boring. As I said before, I enjoyed Indie 4, the Transformers movies, and I enjoyed most of the SW prequels. Since they each made a shitload of money, I must not be alone in my opinion of them. If you don't like it, fuck you.
Yes Ghostbusters 2 was shit by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jul 11th, 2009 05:14:19 PM
But it was still a valued part of my childhood. I have very fond memories of going to see it and everyone at school being so hyped about it. Anyone remember those Happy Meals or whatever where you got a Ghostbusters 2 soft drink can that was sealed because there was meant to be a ghost inside? Everyone I knew opened theres. Shame, those are probably worth something now.
This is what I'm talking about, good memories... by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jul 11th, 2009 05:17:03 PM
http://www.ad-informatica.com/ davideandreani/pic_coke_single ghost.htm
Alright, some ya'll sound like ur 40 yrs old. GB2 was awesome. by GibsonUSA Returns	Jul 11th, 2009 06:20:03 PM
Again, I would take GB2 over a lot of the new summer movies. The soundtrack, the old gang kickin' it...this movie DID NOT SUCK. Yes, arguably disappointing, but that's different from suck. If GB2 sucks, then how do you rate movies like Street Fighter? C'mon! GB2 was great! GB2 was a tightly put together movie. I dont see how anyone can say it sucks.
Remember in GB when the guy handed the team Peking Duck? by GibsonUSA Returns	Jul 11th, 2009 06:30:35 PM
That's so NYC! I hope Ghostbusters 3 is really REALLY rich in the New York City feel. PLEEEEEEASE dont make it look like its shot on some bluescreen or soundstage...it has to look and feel New York.
I am glad Egon commented about GB being low-tech. by GibsonUSA Returns	Jul 11th, 2009 06:39:53 PM
Low-tech and intimate. That's how GB should be in my opinion. It shouldn't be like Terminator 4, with all these different groups of characters scattered around. It should be about Ray changing the engine oil on Ecto-1, Janine complaining about the broken air conditioning, etc. It's about a bunch of NYC dudes kickin' it just like everyone else, it's just that they bust ghosts. I actually wouldn't mind the strategic use of shaky-cam to enhance such an intimate feel. Close up handheld shots of the team going through the busy Chinatown streets...kinda like when Rocky was shopping in Rocky 6...a living city...
Yeah, I remember the Peking Duck bit... by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jul 11th, 2009 07:25:59 PM
What was up with that Jewish hat that Ray was wearing?
shouldn't we ask the real star of GB... by itsjust_notcool_anymore_baby	Jul 11th, 2009 07:50:08 PM
what he thinks of a third movie?...Ernie Hudson?
As for ppl bitching about the... by itsjust_notcool_anymore_baby	Jul 11th, 2009 07:53:23 PM
way the actors have gained weight and grew beards and blah blah blah...who gives a fuck??? It would seriously add to the humor in seeing them as scraggly old men. It is twenty years later. I bet half you fuckers gain like 5 lbs. in a week!
vezner2007... by itsjust_notcool_anymore_baby	Jul 11th, 2009 07:59:37 PM
...you should take the dick out of your mouth. That way people can hear you telling them what to enjoy and not enjoy. FUCK YOU.
and if... by itsjust_notcool_anymore_baby	Jul 11th, 2009 08:01:35 PM
you enjoy that sesame street episode entitled episode 1 than yes you do have a dick in ur mouth. Of course they make fucking money! That's never the point for people like us...
Watched GB II tonight by rogueleader66	Jul 11th, 2009 10:13:21 PM
I don't get all the hate for it. Is it as funny as the original? No, but I still enjoyed it very much. Like another TB'er said, it's better than half of the crap that has come out the past few years. It came out 5 years after the first but can stand right along side the first, it seems like they were made back to back. I just hope they don't sell out on part 3 and try to stay true to the spirit of the first two.
At least GB2's heart was in the right place.. by conspiracy	Jul 12th, 2009 12:06:56 AM
even if it was kinda friggin stupid at times. Indy 4 was nothing but a thrown together, half ass'ed cash grab by one time greats looking for that last Box Office Blockbuster before it was too late. Ego driven crap. Here is hoping the Ghostbusters team put away the Egos, watches that first film, and remembers what made it the classic it is.
Year One vs Indy 4? by The_Ritty	Jul 12th, 2009 02:01:56 AM
Are you people retarded? So Ramis made ONE bad movie... ASIDE from year one this is man who "made"...ahem (clears throat)... "SCTV" ----F'n classic ANIMAL HOUSE ----F'n classic MEATBALLS STRIPES ----F'n classic CADDYSHACK ----F'n classic VACATION ----F'n classic GHOSTBUSTERS ----F'n classic BACK TO SCHOOL ---funny movie ARMED & DANGEROUS ---made me laugh CLUB PARADISE ---made me laugh GHOSTBUSTERS II ---fuck the haters ROVER DANGERFIELD ---hhhmmm.... GROUNDHOG DAY -----F'n classic STUART SAVES HIS FAMILY --Brilliant ANALYZE THIS ----Really funny MULTIPLICTY ----Keaton at his best BEDAZZLED ---- funny enough ANALYZE THAT ----funny movie THE ICE HARVEST ---sev. underrated I dunno, might just be me but I don't see too much wrong with that back catalogue...even the lesser films have laughs...(Randy Quaid was HILARIOUS in Crappy Shack II!) I found NOTHING GOOD about Indy 4. A complete Joke. The ground and Indy!? What is this Scooby-doo mutherfuckers!? Shia swingin' with monkey's!? That movie was nonsense plain and simple. I'm sure everyone who enjoyed Indy 4 loved Transformers 2 as well... "A fun way to waste a few hours"...please. One thing I'll agree on is that Ramis needs to lose the Appatow...not feelin this dude anymore. Straight up. And if Paul Rudd isn't a Ghostbuster I won't give 2 shits about his movie.
My posse's on Broadway!!! by ProziumJunkie	Jul 12th, 2009 02:43:16 AM

At first I thought the interviewer said "ECTO-1 HUMMER." by GibsonUSA Returns	Jul 12th, 2009 03:07:09 AM
But that's actually a great idea...a H2 or H3 Hummer would make a great upgraded Ecto-1... I hope whoever is writing GB3 is doing so IN NYC. Literally, during breaks writing, walking down the city streets and buying food at the stands and local shops. Heavy NYC flavor is a GB tradition imo.
Indy 4 sucked... by elwood_p_dud	Jul 12th, 2009 03:53:29 AM
all kinds of farts outta my ass and loved it. The Queef as Indy's son was just about as fucking stupid as it gets. I'll be glad when he gets old enough that Spielberg no longer wants him to fuck him in the ass so we won't have to watch that shit heel in any more movies.
Vezner - you're righter than even you know. by DiamondJoe	Jul 12th, 2009 04:51:29 AM
Lucas indeed doesn't give a shit about my opinion. He doesn't care about anyone's opinion. That's why he's spent the last 12 years taking a long, protracted shit over his entire legacy and has laughed his fat tits off while he cashed the checks rolling in from terminally gullible cock gobblers like yourself.
Don't make GB3, just remake GB with Team Apatow.... by togmeister	Jul 12th, 2009 09:31:36 AM
....seriously: VENKMAN - PAUL RUDD. STANTZ - SETH ROGEN. SPENGLER - JASON SEGEL. DANA BARRETT - ELIZABETH BANKS. LOUIS TULLY - JONAH HILL. WINSTON ZEDDMORE - CRAIG ROBINSON. JANINE - LESLIE MANN. There you go - works fine for me. Oh, and the 'Slimer Mode' on the GB Blu-Ray sucks because the movie goes back to the beginning every time you turn it on or off. I thought that Blu-Ray was supposed to be the next generation of interactivity. Oh, and as for Indy 4 - let's remember that everything is relative. A weak Indiana Jones movie still beats a National Treasure, Dan Brown, Michael Bay or Rob Cohen movie any day of the week.
Exactly... by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jul 12th, 2009 10:10:20 AM
Angels and Demons made Crystal Skull look like Raiders. Or something along those lines.
togmeister...The fact you are comparing a Indy movie.. by conspiracy	Jul 12th, 2009 10:14:14 AM
to those loads of shit speaks volumes. You might as well have said.."Well, at least Indy 4 wasn't as bad as The Love Guru". Bottom line..when those are the types of movies you have to compare too...the movie sucked.
GHOSTBUSTERS was on TV yesterday by Subtitles_Off	Jul 12th, 2009 10:21:14 AM
Proof that "tentpole" pictures have always been crap. Weak effects. Zero funny jokes. Yeah, make another one of those.
It's ironic by vezner2007	Jul 12th, 2009 11:14:07 AM
that I've been accused of telling people what to like and not like, when that's exactly what all you assholes who are ripping on Lucas' work are doing to those of us that actually like it. Fuck you. Guess what, whether you fucktards like it or not, a hell of a lot of us actually like Indie 4, the SW movies, and the Transformers movies. And you want to know what else? As long as we are paying for movies like this, you asshole haters are screwed since money talks and your bullshit doesn't stink of anything other than this site. Good thing I don't give a rat's ass about Harry's reviews anyway.
If you force your opinon on someone else you're a moron by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jul 12th, 2009 12:20:04 PM
Having said that, Ghostbusters is a classic and anyone who disagrees is just wrong.
Ah, Vezner... by DiamondJoe	Jul 12th, 2009 12:37:05 PM
...we'd already guessed that there are people who like Indy 4, the prequels etc. We fucking know you're out there contributing to the giant shit mountain by handing your money over to the cynical money-grabbing fucks who crank this dreck out. And you know what? In movies, money doesn't fucking talk. Time and posterity does (and so does critical consensus from people who know what they're talking about, and that doesn't always include Harry either, since he gave Indy 4 a free pass).
If you don't demand a better quality of movie by The_Ritty	Jul 12th, 2009 12:59:28 PM
you'll never get it. Plain and simple. So enjoy your mindless entertainment, Veznr2007 - you moron. Just keep givin' 'em your money and you'll keep getting Indy 4's and Transformers 2's...but like you said, you like that kind of shit. Thanks from the rest of us who grew up watchin' and appreciating good flics though... ...meanwhile no one goes to see Whatever Works...at least Star Trek was one good hollywood flic this year...
Maybe I'm just wrong, then by Subtitles_Off	Jul 12th, 2009 01:52:06 PM
Don't care. GB was always dull, over-rated crap. My world view's the only one that matters because it's the only one that's mine.
Here's the thing, Ritty by Subtitles_Off	Jul 12th, 2009 01:56:25 PM
They will keep giving their money - and lots of it - meaning not only will they get more garbage but we will get fewer "good flics." The lowest common denominator controls pop culture. Finding quality entertainment - movies, tv, books, music - is more like homework all the time. You really have to make an effort. Fear not, though, there are hundreds of brilliant films you've never seen that are already available from Netflix.
The last four posts prove my point by vezner2007	Jul 12th, 2009 02:59:59 PM
It's you assholes that are trying to force your opinions on other people. Just because you don't like these movies, it doesn't mean they are "bad films". It only means you don't like them for whatever reasons you have. It still doesn't change that the fact that quite a few people, me included, think they are fun movies. I recommend you learn to deal with it since, as I said before, money talks and the studios will only keep making the movies that make them more money.
Year One was ok but Indy 4 was awesome! by EvilDoeR	Jul 12th, 2009 03:27:56 PM
I don't get the hate for the movie! I thought it was very well made, and I actually enjoyed it a whole lot, and hope Lucas/Speilberg/Ford make more!
Ghostbusters 2 by BlueJayWay	Jul 12th, 2009 04:47:13 PM
GB2 is seriously under rated. It has many classic moments in it and not one moment do I go 'that was awful'. Unlike Indy 4, Transformers etc. The main criticism I could give GB2 is recycling of some ideas and the weird transformation of Janine?! However that's only if I'm pushed to criticize it.
Raimis sure aint afraid to burn bridges by Phategod1	Jul 12th, 2009 05:45:14 PM
Damn you The Berg wont be giving you any calls.
Ind 4 was a decent sequel by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 12th, 2009 06:14:00 PM
I don't get the hate either. Not with shit like Rob Fucking Zombie's Halloween around.
vezner will grow up by Subtitles_Off	Jul 12th, 2009 06:14:01 PM
It's inevitable. He'll discover Hitchcock, or Kurosawa, or something - God hopes. He'll look back at the days when he watched Box Office totals and realize how silly he was. Or else, he'll be a fucktard all his life and grow fat on the couch while he watches sports and reality tv.
Ghostbusters had some pretty good lines by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jul 12th, 2009 06:20:39 PM
Ray: You mean you never even had a Slinky? Egon: We had part of a Slinky. But I straightened it. Egon: Venkman, get a stool sample. Venkman: Business, or personal? Egon: I'd like to run some gynecological tests on the mother. Venkman: Who wouldn't? Janosz: Everything you are doing is bad. I want you to know this.
GB 2 was just trying to be a feel good piece of shit by lockesbrokenleg	Jul 12th, 2009 06:28:44 PM
Especially with that assy ending with the Statue of Liberty. Ugh.
Ghostbusters 2 that is... by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jul 12th, 2009 06:29:45 PM

GB was "low-tech"?? know your history by Maniaq	Jul 12th, 2009 07:36:30 PM
the year was 1984 absolutely EVERYBODY owned an LP called "Thriller", watched this funny little movie called "Purple Rain" and wore a GHOSTBUSTERS t-shirt - oh yeah, there was also this Madonna chick who encouraged young girls to dress like prostitutes... GB was ABSOLUTELY NOT low-tech. Not even on-screen - remember each of them was "wearing an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back" and had a "containment" mechanism that had the EPA and the city's own licensed electricians scratching their heads. Beyond that, this movie employed EVERY VISUAL EFFECT IN THE BOOK at the time, including rotoscoping, stop-motion, animatronics, puppetry, compositing (commonplace today, but not then), blue-screen, physical effects (like floating Dana), man-in-a-suit, and more... The film was green-lit with an INCOMPLETE draft by Aykroyd (Ramis helped rewrite it) and only Aykroyd, Ramis and his STRIPES buddies Bill Murray and Ivan Reitman attached. Perhaps Harold's memory is slipping - or perhaps becoming a little selective - but SOME OF US still remember these things...
imo proton packs were like the only high tech thing in GB. by GibsonUSA Returns	Jul 12th, 2009 09:49:47 PM
The proton packs (and of course the accompanying traps and containment unit)were the only high tech, science-fictiony device used by the Ghostbusters. They lived in an abandoned old fire station. The slid down a pole. Their car is a beat-up old wagon. Their uniforms look like plumber uniforms. In that sense-they were very low tech. 1986's Short Circuit had a very techy/gadgety feel. Ghostbuster's didn't imo. Like I think Egon said, you won't see the team in any kind of Batman-style power suit. I think they'll still be in the low-tech plumber outfits.
Seriously? by kateowyn	Jul 12th, 2009 10:25:46 PM
The man whose most recent addition to his filmography calls Indy 4 a "disaster"????
Year One itself called Indy 4 a disaster? by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jul 13th, 2009 05:25:02 AM

Yr. One has nothing to prove. by GibsonUSA Returns	Jul 13th, 2009 05:32:19 AM
It was a standalone movie. If you liked it fine. If you didnt, thats fine too. Harmless...only the $10 spent on a movie ticket. It didnt have a legacy to live up to. Ghostbusters 3 will.
Why does nobody ever transcribe these things? by JT Kirk	Jul 13th, 2009 01:53:09 PM
Fuck I hate having to watch long-ass videos, straining to hear pertinent information. Everything's video, some lazy asshole turns on a camera and starts yapping. But interviews like these are great sources of information deserving of being searchable in the future. Ramis is brilliant here, tearing down a lot of what's wrong with big action films these days, but it's lost to anybody who doesn't want to put in the time watching a video hoping there's good info (even as he pimped his new film and was wrong about it). AND the fucking thing stalled out on me while I was listening to it writing this post. Fuck internet video, video interviews are a pain in the ass and video reviews are always horrible.
So...Ghostbusters 2 is better than Indy 4?! by venvariants	Jul 13th, 2009 05:12:54 PM
Ramis dissing Indy 4 is like a turd calling another turd a turd.
Indy 4 is a fun motherfucker! Ghostbusters 2 is rape. by ZodNotGod	Jul 13th, 2009 07:00:41 PM
NO. Ghostbusters 2 is not better than anything- maybe the runs, but I doubt it. I watched Indy 4 for the fourth time this past weekend on Blu-ray and it was of course tons of fun, much more so with quality sound and picture. The film is not perfect, but its not horrible as the geeks steeped in Nerd-stolgia want everyone to believe. The Indy films are good in the order of their release and there is nothing wrong with that. And Ramis loses points for being a classless fucker by taking someone else's work down to prop up "his." Of course none of the internet "journalists" would ever correct him since they too are classless hacks.
Zod is right by vezner2007	Jul 13th, 2009 08:56:15 PM
kneel before Zod.
I'm not gonna bash Indy, but Ghostbusters 2 was GREAT! by GibsonUSA Returns	Jul 13th, 2009 11:51:12 PM
I cannot think one one truly "horrible" or cringe-inducing moment in that movie...but I can think of lots of awesomeness. It was a tightly put together movie about hate slime under the city, with the entire cast returning. Tons of memorable quotes just like the 1st one.

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