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This should be fun
by Darth_Valinorean
Jun 30th, 2009
11:00:42 AM
Pure psychedilic trip awaits us
by Darth_Valinorean
Jun 30th, 2009
11:01:19 AM
The character designs suck ass.
by Nice Marmot
Jun 30th, 2009
11:03:41 AM
But the concept art of the scenery is kick ass. I'll end up seeing it for sure.
Wow, that looks amazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..
by AzulTool
Jun 30th, 2009
11:04:51 AM
I like this look for Wonderland
by D.Vader
Jun 30th, 2009
11:07:38 AM
Old and crumbling and somewhat ancient.
Verrrrry in-tuh-resting.
by johnnyangel
Jun 30th, 2009
11:08:00 AM
Nothing new there. . .
by UndeadRabbitZombieJim
Jun 30th, 2009
11:12:06 AM
But the movie is still going to be freaking awesome.
Burton is a bum
by Mr Soze
Jun 30th, 2009
11:19:17 AM
Mar's attack, Sleepy hollow, Choc. factory, all shit. Ok, Ed Wood was pretty good.
Burton is still a bum
by Mr Soze
Jun 30th, 2009
11:21:08 AM
I was 11 when batman came out, It was cool at the time, but it has not aged well.
Talkback disabled in HercVault :(
by tonagan
Jun 30th, 2009
11:21:26 AM
I miss the witty banter about new releases.
Tim Burton needs a real director
by Spandau Belly
Jun 30th, 2009
11:25:38 AM
To pick up where his production design talent ends.
Soze
by WillardGreensThunderballs
Jun 30th, 2009
11:40:30 AM
Beetlejuice, Big Fish, Sweeny, Big Adventure, Batman, Scissorhands, plus his production work...

Bum? Where have you been?

Jesus Christ
by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead
Jun 30th, 2009
11:41:55 AM
It's bad enough that the only things that are posted on this site are things are lifted from other sites, now the readers of this site are beating you guys to the punch too!
Batman 89 has indeed aged badly...
by Bouncy X
Jun 30th, 2009
11:42:38 AM
but i dont think anything in any Batman movie will ever beat the cool shot where the Batwing stops in front of the moon and created the logo. that's an awesome shot just as a standalone picture but even the sequence itself, how the music stops for a few seconds while it hovers there and then falls down.
Burton licks bum.
by Mr Soze
Jun 30th, 2009
11:42:45 AM
What really pissed me off about Burton was Mar's attacks. Look at that cast and it was total garbage of a movie. And then Sleepy Hollow where Icabad Crane lives at the end! Are you kidding me???
Edward Penis Hands was pretty lame too.
by Mr Soze
Jun 30th, 2009
11:46:28 AM
Beetlejuice was good, not great but good.
Burton has made *3* stinkers in his career...
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Jun 30th, 2009
12:02:25 PM
don't think i'd place him in 'bum' territory. 'Sweeney' was brilliant, and everything i've seen thus far on 'Alice' indicates that he's swinging for the fences yet again. some of you fuckers just don't like a goddamned thing, regardless of what it is or who's behind it.
He should of made this before Willy Wonka.
by HerbWestAustin
Jun 30th, 2009
12:02:56 PM
or actually not do Willy at all.
For dark is the suede that mows like...a harvest
by Nasty In The Pasty
Jun 30th, 2009
12:17:27 PM
Jackoff _juggernaut.
by Mr Soze
Jun 30th, 2009
12:18:19 PM
Which 3 are stinkers???
Burton has made *3* stinkers in his career...
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Jun 30th, 2009
12:20:23 PM
don't think i'd place him in 'bum' territory. 'Sweeney' was brilliant, and everything i've seen thus far on 'Alice' indicates that he's swinging for the fences yet again. some of you fuckers just don't like a goddamned thing, regardless of what it is or who's behind it.
Wonka was a miss-step only because of Depp
by J.B.M.A.
Jun 30th, 2009
12:22:04 PM
Burtons vision was in fact far more faithful to the fantastic Dahl book than the frankly cock-awful Wilder movie (of which Wilder is the ONLY good thing).

Sadly Johnny had to go and play Wonka as some weird, spiteful pastiche of Michael Jackson and ruin everything.

I don't doubt that if Burton had the chance to make 'The Great Glass Elevator' it would be superb.

damn double post!
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Jun 30th, 2009
12:22:50 PM
Soze... POTA, Charlie, and Mars.
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Jun 30th, 2009
12:25:59 PM
so is American McGee going to sue, or what?
by Cap'n Jack
Jun 30th, 2009
12:26:03 PM
J.B.M.A.
by Mr Soze
Jun 30th, 2009
12:27:26 PM
Depp was the only thing going in that shitfest. Besides the midget of course.
Bums don't make Pee Wee's Big Adventure
by DeadPanWalking
Jun 30th, 2009
12:30:52 PM
One of the greatest cinematic achievements of our time. Also re: Burton's Batman. We'll be hard-pressed to see a better Catwoman than Pfeiffer (but I wouldn't put it past Nolan after his casting of the Joker. I don't get all the Burton bashing. There are PLENTY of people to bash in Hollywood, but by and large, Burton's done some good stuff.
I know I'm in the minority with this opinion...
by dogrobber
Jun 30th, 2009
12:42:28 PM
...and while I love the design, cinematography, and sheer imagination behind Mr. Burton's movies, I find them somehow hollow or empty, like there should be more depth to them (except, oddly, for his animated work). Has Mr. Burton done any films where he was 'just' a production designer?
Talkbackers hate imagination
by CaptainAxis
Jun 30th, 2009
01:09:00 PM
and creativity. Were you all molested as children?
Never been much of a Burton fan...
by Shepard Wong
Jun 30th, 2009
01:11:32 PM
This looks like everything else he does. Would there be any difference in the film if Burton himself made it or a talented imitator? Yes, the film would look the same but would have competent direction and storytelling.
Jaded or optimistic?
by Dapper Swindler
Jun 30th, 2009
01:13:21 PM
Alice in Wonderland is either a Tim Burton cliche been-there-done-that or it's the movie he was born to direct.
I'm with DeadPanWalking.
by Azlam Orlandu
Jun 30th, 2009
01:17:43 PM
Pee Wee's Big Adventure is the shit.
dogrobber, you're not in the minority here
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 30th, 2009
01:27:18 PM
AICN Talkbackers hate Tim Burton.

It's because he made two Batman movies, and the worst one of those was better than Nolan's BATMAN BEGINS and more fun than THE DARK KNIGHT. They just can't get over that.

Personally, I'm a fan of his despite POTA, but I can't get too excited about ALICE. I tend to agree with the haters that Burton has been on a slide since he's become a re-maker, as opposed to an originator.

I'm trying to use the phoooooooooooone!!!!!!!!
by darthpigman
Jun 30th, 2009
01:27:56 PM
Give some points for originality
by johnnyangel
Jun 30th, 2009
02:26:49 PM
Burton's movies all look unique whatever else may be wrong with them. I'm pretty jazzed about this movie. I saw Sleepy Hollow the other night on TV and Christopher Walken's Headless Horseman made the whole flick well worth watching, despite numerous other flaws.
But if you want to give points for originality
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 30th, 2009
02:29:48 PM
you also have to agree to take away points when that originality is wasted on re-imagining something that already exists. And, you end up tied.

It's only fair.

Memo to Burton: GIVE US BEETLEJUICE 2!!
by ZombieHeathLedger
Jun 30th, 2009
02:30:37 PM
"I'm the ghost with the most, babe..."
Overrated!
by Dr Gregory House
Jun 30th, 2009
02:35:40 PM
Am I 'cool' yet?
Cap'n Jack ... American McGee doesn't own "dark" Alice
by MurderMostFowl
Jun 30th, 2009
02:36:07 PM
All of Lewis Carroll's works are in the public domain, and just because Ameican McGee made a version of his own that is dark and distrorted characters that roughly follows the story of Alice in Wonderland ( despite the main character being in an insane asylum ) doesn't mean that some other dark and distorted version of the same source is infringement.

as a comparison, Disney's Aladdin and the knockoff cartoon that came out at the same time are both based visually and storyline wise on the Thief of Bagdad ( also in the public domain )
If you are one of the People in this talk back
by theycallmemrtibbs
Jun 30th, 2009
02:37:57 PM
shitting on Burton,

You're obviously bored and have nothing else to do.

If you are one of the People in this talk back
by MorganLeafy
Jun 30th, 2009
03:23:13 PM
shitting on Burton, then you obviously know nothing about good movies. Some of these talkbacks are as predictable as a hangover after a bottle of whisky.
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 30th, 2009
03:31:55 PM
Shit, this will be awful. Judging by the pic I am sure this will be another weird emo shitfest.
Completely Uninteresting
by jupstin
Jun 30th, 2009
03:38:58 PM
There is nothing at all unique about any of this art. It almost all looks like it could have been for the Disney version
To who ever complained about Icabod Living at the end of Sleepy
by saintsaucey
Jun 30th, 2009
05:08:53 PM
He lived at the end of the cartoon as well. He disappeared yes but he also lived.
is that a ....... CURTAIN?!?!?!
by OutlawsDelejos
Jun 30th, 2009
05:30:49 PM
wow.
BEETLEJUICE 2
by GibsonUSA Returns
Jun 30th, 2009
08:49:29 PM
Dim Birdbrain
by Ricky Retardo
Jun 30th, 2009
09:01:03 PM
What a HACK!!!!!!
WHERE'S THE GODDAMN CHESHIRE CAT?
by My_IQ_is_135
Jun 30th, 2009
09:38:31 PM
I'm dying to figure out what he looks like. He's the only reason I'm gonna watch this movie.
Tim Burton is an overrated douche
by raidahguy
Jun 30th, 2009
10:44:14 PM
Movies that suck ass: Mars attacks (Cast was wonderful, so why the fuck did it suck ass??!!), Sleepy Hollow (Unoriginal drab piece of shit), Planet of The Apes (Ruined what could have been a great franchise)-Cornelius!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!), Beetlejuice (Ridiculous), Batman (was good at the time, but has not aged well and miscasted Keaton as Batsy. He's supposed to be a playboy, not a abalding guy who played Beetlejuice), Batman 2 (I thought it sucked ass when I first saw it and still do. Penguins carry off the Penguin when he dies, wtf?!), Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (Same as Sleepy Hollow). Ill give him Scissorhands, but that is it. Fuck you Burton, your films may be visually dazzling at times, but you do not know how to flesh out a story and bring it all together.
I Loved Some Burton Movies, But Probably Dislike More
by GordoSan#1
Jun 30th, 2009
11:12:13 PM
Won't mention the bad, but I love Pee Wee's Big Adventure, Beetlejuice, Edward Scisorhands, and Ed Wood, and really liked Big Fish, Corpse Bride, and Sweeny Todd. The rest are pretty not good.
Burton's Twisted M.O.
by puto tenax
Jul 1st, 2009
06:16:16 AM
He likes putting a twist on everything he does in a film-Keaton as Batman, the exteriors in Scissorhands, etc. There's always something out of place in his movies-I think Alice will be one of his best. And Tim, it's time to work on Dark Shadows-make it R.
Whatever the result, it'll certainly look amazing.
by Mr Nicholas
Jul 1st, 2009
06:17:57 AM
3D?
by mikewilliamson
Jul 1st, 2009
07:01:32 AM
The fourth picture there is in 3D. Has there been any talk of Burton's ALICE having 3D sequences?
Jumped off the Burton train a long tine ago
by lockesbrokenleg
Jul 1st, 2009
03:55:34 PM
He just kept doing the same old shit. Mars Attacks was the last Burton show I made myself suffer through.
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