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Denzel and Tony Scott's next pairing in trouble?

Budget is probably too high by ComputerGuy68	Jun 30th, 2009 06:00:28 AM
All about the $$$
You mean no ugly green camera filters and shakey-cam? by Nasty In The Pasty	Jun 30th, 2009 06:03:13 AM
Poop.
This is off topic— by blakindigo	Jun 30th, 2009 06:03:14 AM
Does anybody remember "Runaway Train" from 1985 or so? It was based on a Kurosawa screenplay, directed by Andrei Konchalovsky?
And WHY is the TV-on-DVD Hercvault closed to posting? by Nasty In The Pasty	Jun 30th, 2009 06:04:09 AM
He's been pulling this bullshit for at least the last month. Why?
Script Girl is pretty. by DamnMichaelBay	Jun 30th, 2009 06:18:27 AM
Script Girl is pretty.
I would much prefer THE WARRIORS remake by Seph_J	Jun 30th, 2009 06:22:35 AM
by these guys...as that is a film that honestly COULD be re-imagined, and done fucking well too. Not that the original isn't the definition of cool (as it is)... just that it could be done differently and well. How many remakes can that be said of?
Is this a remake of Under Seige 2: Dark Territory? by Stuntcock Mike	Jun 30th, 2009 06:23:24 AM
It's about time we get to see Denzel bonk someone in the melon again.
Will Denzel play Michael ? by theplant	Jun 30th, 2009 06:24:52 AM
It is time
I liked Man on Fire by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jun 30th, 2009 06:31:17 AM
But the ending would have been better if he'd used one of those ass bombs on himself and blown up the kidnappers once he was in the car with them.
Michael Bay=The hack version of Tony Scott. by The Dark Shite	Jun 30th, 2009 06:31:57 AM
I've just realised how weird it is that I hate Bay's movies, but I'm usually interested in seeing Scott's. Both make mindless, braindead, over-the-top action movies. They should be the same. But the difference is, Scott's usually good at it.
Silver Streak remake! by Belasco_House	Jun 30th, 2009 06:35:23 AM
How has this not happened?
"... a few budgetary snags at Fox..." by brokentusk	Jun 30th, 2009 06:46:31 AM
What this really means: Fox wanted the film to be shot at half the budget that would allow it to actually live up to its premise. Rothman: "Do we really need all these good bits? Can't we just get rid of all the stuff that people want to see and just make it mediocre at half the price?"
Fuck You Seph_J by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Jun 30th, 2009 07:03:29 AM
You going faggot on me?
I Thought The Headline Said "Danza." by buster00	Jun 30th, 2009 07:10:42 AM
Now that I see it doesn't, I'm really not sure how to feel.
Wasn't this supposed to star John Cusack? by Sheeld	Jun 30th, 2009 07:11:33 AM
With Jan de Bont directing? I could be mistaken.
Buster00 by Cotton McKnight	Jun 30th, 2009 07:16:23 AM
That was funny.
Why are you scared of women NeilF? by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Jun 30th, 2009 07:18:47 AM

TONY SCOTT IS AN OLD MAN... by ZOMBIE_FRANK_BOOTH	Jun 30th, 2009 07:26:56 AM
...But he directs like a FUCKING meth-addicted kid whose soul is haunted by the ghost of Michael Bay. Yo, Tony, hop off the HACK-TRAIN, Fuck off to the south of France with your brother Ridley and start making SOME QUALITY pics. Do it now Tony - or I'll tear your FUCKING HEART OUT!!!
Doesn't Denzel's characters die in every one of his movies? by Mike_D	Jun 30th, 2009 07:27:20 AM
I'm guessing his character in this meets a tragic end as well.
hackman is in a great by TheExterminator	Jun 30th, 2009 07:33:22 AM
train related movie
Quint- elaborate on why this is a perfect kind of movie by YackBacker	Jun 30th, 2009 07:42:36 AM
For Denzel and Scott- the only description you give is that its about a runaway train. If you know more about the movie that is- if you don't then I think you're a funny man who makes really crazy statements based on slivers of information. Good day, sir!
Actually, it's about Soul Asylum's "Runaway Train." by MCVamp	Jun 30th, 2009 07:53:33 AM
Denzel plays a good ex-cop with an incident in his past that ruined his reputation even though he was not at fault. He's hired as the bodyguard the lead singer of Soul Asylum (played by Chris Pine) who has been targeted by Syrian extremists. He will be stoic, well-spoken, curse only when dramatically appropriate, slyly joking at unexpected times, and have a chaste, nostalgic relationship with his ex-wife I wish Denzel would do more challenging stuff. Maybe it's just not being sent to him any more.
So is this a remake of Under Siege 2? by Unlabled	Jun 30th, 2009 07:55:44 AM
Because it sounds exactly the same.
Maybe the DC Metro trai derailment is an issue? by YackBacker	Jun 30th, 2009 08:02:13 AM
I remember hearing that the original villains in RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK were Arabs, no Nazis and the US Govt asked Spielberg to switch the villains out because the Iran Hostage crisis was still going on. So, maybe we'll be seeing a movie about a runaway Nazi instead...
I don't know... by wampa 1	Jun 30th, 2009 08:24:18 AM
...but it sure smells good!
Denzel is the same in every single movie he's in by ZombieHeathLedger	Jun 30th, 2009 08:48:52 AM
He's an earnest actor but he always does varying degrees of the same character. He was different in one movie, GLORY, and he was awesome in it and then he just became the same guy in ever project. Even Eddie Murphy has more range than Denzel.
Dull...dull..Runaway train?...meh! by KillaKane	Jun 30th, 2009 09:02:31 AM
C'mon, I know why Fox balked at this one, it's a jaded concept for one and god knows there are better stories to be told for a fraction of Scott's over inflated budgets. Seems to be a relentless procession of uninspired formulaic crap coming out of Fox at the moment, they really need to shake things up and axe some of those suits.
MCVamp, I'd pay money to see that! by Kenshiro_187	Jun 30th, 2009 09:05:13 AM
Runaway train, never comin' back...
I GOT TO BE UNSTOPPABLE by RKDN	Jun 30th, 2009 09:08:45 AM
AH AH AH AH ITS NO LIE AH AH AH AH ITS NO LIE everybody dancing
Two different people... by em_tee_em	Jun 30th, 2009 09:19:22 AM
...have said this sounds exactly the same as Under Siege 2. How exactly? Under Siege 2 isn't about a runaway train it's about a terrorist blackmailing the United States government from onboard a fully functioning non-runaway train. You know what is about a runaway train? Runaway Train.
As Vern says... by em_tee_em	Jun 30th, 2009 09:20:45 AM
...life is too short for new Tony Scott movies.
Anyone think the DC Metro by Series7	Jun 30th, 2009 09:34:00 AM
Had any effect on The Taking Pelham's BO returns?
why is denzel still working? by j2talk	Jun 30th, 2009 09:39:52 AM
did ANYBOY see his last few films? or like them?
KATHY BATES IS ALSO UNSTOPPABLE by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS	Jun 30th, 2009 09:42:18 AM
That woman survived the titanic sinking!
"Perfect kind of movie for these guys..."? They just DID a train by VMS	Jun 30th, 2009 09:43:46 AM
Also, not sure if you remember, Tony Scott jumped James Brown over a moving, exploding train in his BMW commercial. Yeah.. train movie.. fuck, let's do another. Everyone involved, just walk away. Take a weekend and come up with an idea, for once.
NielF by Mr.FTW	Jun 30th, 2009 09:44:12 AM
I know AICN isn't know too much for censoring the talkback but why don't block douchebags like NielF?!? If you hate scriptgirl so much you you can always go somewhere else.
Denzel was the same in Courage under fire and Glory. by ganymede3010	Jun 30th, 2009 10:00:28 AM
He was mouthy runwaway slave who couldn't wait to escape from the Plantation. He was also the same way in the Inside Man. Oh he really hated whitey in Crimson tide too. NOT!!! Please STFU with the Denzel acts the same. You can say that about every actor, since it's them who's actually acting the part.
Officially Sick of Tony Scott by Autodidact	Jun 30th, 2009 10:03:06 AM
Never thought I'd be saying this, but one look at any footage from Pehlam 123 and I am bored out of my mind. 3/4 of Tony's movies have looked the same for the past twenty years, going back to Top Gun.
Denzel,good actor,past his prime, in need of new schitck by j2talk	Jun 30th, 2009 10:10:39 AM
time for him to go the morgan freeman route
Denzel, good actor, not past his prime, needs to get away from T by HollywoodHellraiser	Jun 30th, 2009 10:13:59 AM
Its clear Tony Scott NEEDS Denzel!
You know what Hollywood has become? by Flyingcircus	Jun 30th, 2009 10:15:59 AM
Spam. Spam spammity spam.
I hope the film happens... by fassbinder79	Jun 30th, 2009 10:32:05 AM
...Or that they at least work on another project together. I'd really like to see Denzel play a bad guy in a Tony Scott film. That would be different for them.
And by the way... by fassbinder79	Jun 30th, 2009 10:32:56 AM
...Denzel is the BEST actor working today. PERIOD. That's not up for debate. And I don't care what any of you have to say about that.
tO0oNy S...[c] 0 ...TTTT!!!!! by Christopher3	Jun 30th, 2009 10:37:41 AM
I think his name should resemble his movie subtitles.
THIS IS GOOD NEWS TO ME by AyatollahSexyBack	Jun 30th, 2009 11:04:27 AM
Denzel needs a break from ShakeyCam Tony. Enough is enough. Get a serious role, one that requires acting for more than 2 seconds at a time. Fuck! Chris Pine is great. I'm glad this is falling through so he can concentrate on being Captain Kirk. William Shatwho?
Watched AMERICAN GANGSTER on the tv box the other day by YackBacker	Jun 30th, 2009 11:14:38 AM
Denzel really is fantastic. Sure, the movie lacked a certain verve that the material demanded, but watching Denzel do his thing was fucking mesmerizing. It does seem like he only works with Spike and the Scott Bros. lately, but I think he deserves a blockbuster at this point in his career. How about the black Indiana Jones?
Best Runaway Train Movie ever... by CaptainCosmos	Jun 30th, 2009 11:16:14 AM
...was called...wait for it..."Runaway Train"! Yeah, that's right! Jon Voight & Eric Roberts. One of the fucking most awesome little known gems ever! If you have not seen this movie, check it the fuck out now. C'mon, who's seen it? If I'm lyin' I'm dyin'! Here endeth the lesson.
Travolta was so scary, and totally not gay at all in Pelham. by AzulTool	Jun 30th, 2009 11:16:43 AM
Oooh, menacing John Travolta. He has crazy sideburns, and tribal tats. Please, folks. If you haven't seen the original with the great Walter Matthau, do yourself a favor and check it out. It was made during a time when American cinema was, get this, original. Plus, you can't go wrong with anything featuring Matthew Broderick's dad.
MANNY, I THOUGHT WE WUZ FRIENDS by AyatollahSexyBack	Jun 30th, 2009 11:23:31 AM
I thought we wuz friends ... RT is classic. No doubt. They don't make 'em like that anymore. A steady cam on a runaway train? God forbid.
"Doesn't Denzel's characters die in every one of his movies?" by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jun 30th, 2009 11:48:32 AM
I don't remember him dying in Philidelphia, unless there was a deleted scene where he gets raped by Tom Hanks.
by obidawsn	Jun 30th, 2009 11:49:47 AM

Sounds like Speed 3 by obidawsn	Jun 30th, 2009 11:55:51 AM
First a bus that will explode below 55 MPH, then a runaway cruise ship. This would make the perfect plot for Speed 3. But, then again, who would watch it? The first movie was pretty fun, but the 2nd one was a joke. Maybe JJ Abrams can take this train idea and turn that franchise around, too. Maybe all the people on the train have a connected past, which we can see through flashbacks everytime the train enters a tunnel. Then when the train reaches a certain speed (say 88 MPH :) ) it goes back in time, so we can see how the train came to be.
Please no NeilF posting for attention this week! by vanderdeken	Jun 30th, 2009 12:09:08 PM

by Cobra--Kai	Jun 30th, 2009 12:17:01 PM
"I wun't dat Manny. I wun't dat." RUNAWAY TRAIN was funky (like a train). MAN ON FIRE was fucking cool too, except for the limp climax where Dezel dies and the kidnapper gets shot in a weak-ass 'tie up the loose ends' moment by the detective. The alternate ending on the DVD was SOOO much better. Denzel blowing himself with the bomb up the ass and taking out the kidnapper's mansion. Now that's a 'man on fire'.
Cobra--Kai... by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jun 30th, 2009 12:28:03 PM
Damn, guess i never checked out the DVD extras. I thought the ass-bomb would have made more sense. Perhaps Scott just thought that would've been too silly. Yeah, as if the fact that he hadn't already killed Dakota Fanning wasn't silly enough.
Thank God. by Harry Weinstein	Jun 30th, 2009 01:21:06 PM
PELHAM 123 fucking SUUUUUCKED. Denzel was decent, but stuck in a really, really bad movie. In any reasonable year the PELHAM 123 remake would have been among the summer's worst. This is no reasonable year... and it's STILL among the summer's worst. No mean feat with YEAR ONE and SHITFORMERS stinking up theaters.
NeilF is a hero. by Harry Weinstein	Jun 30th, 2009 01:23:52 PM
n/t
Pelham 123 Is The Reason This Film Is Now In Trouble by Media Messiah	Jun 30th, 2009 01:39:15 PM
Pelham 123 was awful!!! The two films are too much alike. What they need to do if they want to save this new film Unstoppable, is change the setting from a train to a plane.
What happened to the Scotts by Series7	Jun 30th, 2009 02:48:59 PM
Warriors remake? Also how many more 70's classics is Tony going to remake before he gives up?
It should be called "SPEED" by DarthBakpao	Jun 30th, 2009 03:18:05 PM

by Cobra--Kai	Jun 30th, 2009 04:05:37 PM
Kevin Costner's piss, yeah the ass bomb was 'da bomb'. Stick your MAN ON FIRE DVD in and check that Creasy Bear out. ps. the deleted scenes also include a pretty sweet sex scene with the 'mom'. Milf-tastic mate.
I thought Pelham 123 sucked baaad... by Captain Happy	Jun 30th, 2009 04:20:18 PM
I hope Denzel is freed from the yoke of having to work with such a hack so he can go on & do good work. Tony Scott does not understand how to cut suspense or action. Look at Deja Vu & Domino. The man is an over-editing fanatic, & I'm an editor (which probably gives me about 10% credibility because I've only worked in television & in that time I've worked on real crap ...but hey, we're not talking about me, we're talking about him). Tony Scott is a director that just gets under my skin because he is so bad & his direction & editing-style are often antithetical to what I feel are the hallmarks of good moviemaking; which to me is being emotionally immersed in a good story. All of his frame-tinting (w/ gels or in post, I don't care) pulls me out of the experience of the film, as does his fast, jarring editing style. Why would anyone want to make reality look unreal the way Tony Scott does? & then dice it into tiny pieces? It's a mystery to me. He also uses lots of valuable Hollywood assets that would be better spent elsewhere. This is why Tony Scott is a prick.
Trains are so last century. by JuanSanchez	Jun 30th, 2009 04:39:32 PM
Plus - don't we have enough unstoppable train movies. Atomic Train, Under Siege 2: Dark Territory, and of course - Runaway Train.
STOP MAKING TONY SCOTT MOVIES, DENZEL! by Tall_Boy66	Jun 30th, 2009 05:06:28 PM
Ridley Scott is obviously the better brother and it paid off in American Gangster (if no real awards, but fuck the Oscars anyway). Denzel was good in Phelam, and I thought Travolta was hilariously awesomely over the top, but it was directed way too "busy". Michael Bay busy works for Transformers because the entire concept is just outright silly so you can get over the top stupid, but Phelam was a small character drama, and too much whiz-bang spin the camera around Denzel's head about 20 times in the movie kinda kills it.
Now better Runaway Train movie then... by Charlie_Allnut	Jun 30th, 2009 05:20:05 PM
Runaway Train. Jon Voight baby!!!
FOX can suck... by elwood_p_dud	Jun 30th, 2009 05:39:23 PM
my sweaty balls until Rothman is found dead in a Bangkok hotel with a rope around his dick and a ninja star through his forehead. That is all...
Didn't have enough room in the budget.... by otm shank	Jun 30th, 2009 05:51:51 PM
after they spent it all on Disaster Movie Too: Drink Your Own Piss.
Maybe they realized... by Logan_1973	Jun 30th, 2009 06:40:26 PM
One Denzel vs. Runaway Train movie a year was enough.
Don't even bring up RUNAWAY TRAIN by Harry Weinstein	Jun 30th, 2009 06:52:21 PM
The remake-happy goons at MGM own that one via their chunk of the Cannon library. It could happen.
Isn't this why they hire Tony Scott? by SnootyBoots	Jun 30th, 2009 11:10:08 PM
To take on an expensive star driven action movie and bring it in on time and on budget? Can't think of any other reason why the guy still gets work.
Tall_Boy66 is right by Jesiah	Jun 30th, 2009 11:30:50 PM
I love Johnny Depp, but seeing his name with burton makes me NOT want to see a film. Same with denzel/tony.
oh yeah and stop I Am Denzel by Jesiah	Jun 30th, 2009 11:36:20 PM
That's basically what book of eli is.....or at least take out denzel give some roles to michael jai white he is forever linked to greatness by having why so serious yelled in his face and dying one of the coolest deaths ever.
Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World by Seph_J	Jul 1st, 2009 12:12:24 AM
it's a good job I know my warriors.... otherwise I'd have been insulted. CANNN YOU COUNT...... SUCKERS!??!?!!!!!!!!
MALCOLM X IS DENZELS OPUS by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN	Jul 1st, 2009 12:22:52 AM
I WIN
MAN ON FIRE SUCKS ASS. by Proman1984	Jul 1st, 2009 12:31:14 AM
Tony Scott is overrated.
Question about Fox??? by crider	Jul 1st, 2009 03:24:05 AM
Just wondering! Since rothman took office, has Fox turned out any thing that would be considered classic... You know, something like say Alien, Star Wars, Planet of the Apes. I have been racking my brain trying to think of one, not coming up with anything.
Runaway Train is a forgotten classic.. by iwasredempted	Jul 1st, 2009 05:58:51 AM
in my opinion. it proves that eric is the more talented of the roberts siblings. and voight as manny was fantastic. they should do a remake with angelina jolie and eric roberts daughter emma roberts called runaway train 2:the next generation.
i meant sequal by iwasredempted	Jul 1st, 2009 06:05:16 AM

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