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Remember when they killed the category so South Park
by chrth
Jun 29th, 2009
10:36:21 AM
wouldn't get a nomination?
sounds stupid
by TheMcflyFarm
Jun 29th, 2009
10:36:21 AM
south park WAS nominated
by TheMcflyFarm
Jun 29th, 2009
10:37:19 AM
Fine with me
by ricarleite2
Jun 29th, 2009
10:39:22 AM
But still seems there will usually be 2 nominated songs. And HOW THE FUCK did that horrible, horrible indian song win over Down to Earth???
Southpark
by Alientoast
Jun 29th, 2009
10:40:15 AM
Southpark's "Blame Canada" was nominated, but it was a sham it lost to that insipid and %100 forgetable Phil Colins Tarzan song. The only bright note is it was the -only- nominated song to actually have a musical number done for it (that year they were supposed to have cutback on the elaborate song presentation productions).
TheMcflyFarm: That was my point
by chrth
Jun 29th, 2009
10:40:31 AM
Stan Lee's Role in 'Iron Man 2' Revealed Larry King!
by Stanbee54321
Jun 29th, 2009
10:41:37 AM
www.nukethefridge.com
It occured to me that some people might not have been here
by chrth
Jun 29th, 2009
10:47:28 AM
in 1999.

I can't find the original article, but there was an article/talkback because the Academy was supposedly going to get rid of the category so that South Park couldn't be nominated. And like so many things back in the day, it turned out to be completely false.

Sad
by c4andmore
Jun 29th, 2009
10:47:58 AM
Under these rules a song like "Falling Slowly" from Once might not have a chance.
Blame Canada was not only nominated but it was performed
by Big Jim
Jun 29th, 2009
10:48:46 AM
during the ceremony.

Maybe they should do that for ALL the categories. Instead of having, for example, 10 slots for Best Picture that must be filled regardless of the quality of movies for that year, have some sort of point system that lets the Academy decide how many films truly deserve the nomination.

I'm sure the next announcement will be they are cutting the "In Memory of" segment down to a list of names during the closing credits.

AINT IT POST IT TWO DAYS AFTER NIKKE FINKE DOES NEWS
by FuckMichaelBay
Jun 29th, 2009
10:49:55 AM
Whooooooooosh!
Will Michael Jackson be nominated next year?
by ricarleite2
Jun 29th, 2009
10:51:30 AM
Because it seems the only fucking artist playing on radio and TV! GET OVER IT!
Yes, because the Best Original Song category is what's wrong wit
by brokentusk
Jun 29th, 2009
10:51:40 AM
This reminds me of when Warner Bros. looked at the success of THE DARK KNIGHT and said, "All our superhero movies must now be dark!"

It's the kind of inexplicable Hollywood logic that makes you bang your head against your desk in frustration.

How about...
by Red Ned Lynch
Jun 29th, 2009
10:52:12 AM
...a designated accepter rule so that only easily identifiable celebrities accept awards? That way no one has to watch the stuttering sound editor get an Oscar. They get to see the Jonas Brothers! Or the Real Housewives(tm)! You could have different cities of the Housewives on hand to represent each nominee, so viewers who haven't seen the nominated films can root for which proxies they wanted to accept the award.
I think this is meant to save everyone....
by TheOracle
Jun 29th, 2009
10:52:26 AM
the embarrassment and awkwardness of having to watch another Three-Six Mafia type group win a fucking Oscar.
i remember at the 1994 oscars..
by Bouncy X
Jun 29th, 2009
10:53:19 AM
they nominated Janet Jackson for her song Again and even as a huge fan of hers, i thought then and still think now how that was wrong. The nomination was for her movie Poetic Justice but the thing is, while that song does play during the end credits it wasn't even on the soundtrack. Plus it was just a single from her 1993 album. the song was out and a moderate hit before the movie came, i mean it was cool seeing her nominated and performing but according to their rules, it shouldnt have been there. anyway these days they seem to just grab anything as an excuse to have the category so this could be a good thing.
I don't know...
by wampa 1
Jun 29th, 2009
10:53:50 AM
...but it sure smells good!
... with the show.
by brokentusk
Jun 29th, 2009
10:53:51 AM
Fuck this primitive message board.
How about...
by Red Ned Lynch
Jun 29th, 2009
10:54:02 AM
...a visible "acceptance clock". And if the winner doesn't finish their acceptance speech in the alloted time the Oscar goes to the second highest vote getter? Come on Hollywood, go for some real drama if you want the big ratings.
No original
by CuervoJones
Jun 29th, 2009
10:57:56 AM
The new name for Hollywood.
How about...
by Red Ned Lynch
Jun 29th, 2009
10:58:43 AM
...letting an on-line and phone vote conducted during the Oscars account for 25% of the determining count? Then you could have an envelope for each presenter, one with the "traditional" vote from the Academy and the other with the "Voice of Oscar's America". The suspense of seeing whether Oscar's America would overturn the Academy's preference would be just...just...damn I hate the cynicism implicit in nominating ten damned movies for Best Picture.
I LIKE The Grand Old Geezer Awards!
by cymbalta4thedevil
Jun 29th, 2009
10:59:03 AM
They add some depth and history to what otherwise is sometimes just a fashion show mixed with a popularity contest.

Seeing Sidney Lumet and Robert Altman and Peter O'Toole get up there in recent years was a real joy for people who care about film beyond what's hot at the box office this week.
and another thing....
by TheOracle
Jun 29th, 2009
11:05:22 AM
nobody wants to see that no talent self-involved Beyoncee sing all of the damn songs in the category again. That was embarrassing and insulting to the original performers of the song.
yeah I always liked Best Song
by CherryValance
Jun 29th, 2009
11:10:59 AM
but they've made it impossible for anything to get nominated anyway with their silly rules. Last year the songs nominated were not the best songs. Bruce Springsteen should have won for The Wrestler and he wasn't even nominated. I don't think Eddie Vedder was nominated the year before for Into the Wild. So as much as I'll miss Best Song, it's not like it hasn't been screwed up for a while.

The old people thing sucks though. The Grammys have been doing that for a while now and I think it's rotten. If anything you should give the oldies their time so they can really be recognized for their life's work. That's the whole point isn't it? How can they get recognition if no one sees.

All future montages...
by Red Ned Lynch
Jun 29th, 2009
11:15:03 AM
...will be pulled from movies made during the previous five years. Montages including footage from older films will also be relegated to a special show held in the William Hickey Memorial Retirement Auditorium.
How About getting rid of the presenters' banter?
by Big Jim
Jun 29th, 2009
11:16:41 AM
Buddy, who's worked his whole life in some unglamorous area of the industry has his moment to shine and gets 30 seconds to make the most of it. Yet before announcing the award, Cameron Diaz and Ashton Kutcher get 3 minutes to read a poorly written, supposedly improvised, bit off cue cards, all the time promoting their new movie.

Here's another time-saver. When announcing presenters, have them already at the podium! Why do we need to see Tom Cruise and Kathy Bates, walk across the stage? Instead the Academy thought it a good idea to have nominees in some categories lined up on stage to hear who won so the winner, who no doubt had the shittiest seats in the house, wouldn't waste time coming up to the stage. Their other genius idea - handing awards to winners in their seats.

And on the subject of presenter's, have only one per category? Why does it take 2 people to read a list of nominees, open an envelope, and read a name?

good, get rid of this category
by Stifler's Mom
Jun 29th, 2009
11:17:30 AM
It's leftover from when musicals were a major genre. Now it's just a meaningless shout-out to the end credits of Disney films.
GREAT idea
by Logan_1973
Jun 29th, 2009
11:22:53 AM
A preliminary scoring system would certainly prevent another rap concert at the Oscars. Good lord that was horrid...
I like this idea actually
by Bass Ackwards
Jun 29th, 2009
11:23:17 AM
I think ALL categories should applly similar rules, any category that has nothing worthwhile to nominate should just nominate nothing that year. It makes sense.
Red Ned Lynch, the last thing I want to see is any
by Big Jim
Jun 29th, 2009
11:23:24 AM
part of the voting opened up to the public. It's sad enough, with 10 movies being nominated next year to include what's "hot", that New Moon is a shoo-in for a Best Picture Nomination. Now you are suggesting a formula that could very possibly give it enough juice to win.
c4andmore
by TheBlackKnight
Jun 29th, 2009
11:49:12 AM
How so?
How about a preliminary
by Stile
Jun 29th, 2009
12:09:58 PM
Eliminate the Best Animated Feature Category
by The_Myhand
Jun 29th, 2009
12:10:32 PM
Ok, I second the emotion to f*ck this primitive message board
by Stile
Jun 29th, 2009
12:11:36 PM
My finger slips and my post is screwed. What I was trying to say is that there should be a preliminary panel of experts that identifies the top, say, 15 best song candidates which is then narrowed down to the top 3 - 5 by the Academy at large.
Eliminate the Best Animated Feature Category
by The_Myhand
Jun 29th, 2009
12:11:47 PM
And only allow the top 2 or so Animated Films to be nominated for Best Picture, since there are now 10 slots....and this will stop shitty animated films from having to be nominated just to have a full category.
OSCARS? YAWWWWWWWWWWWN
by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN
Jun 29th, 2009
12:15:29 PM
YYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWW WWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Thank the gods.
by rbatty024
Jun 29th, 2009
12:16:05 PM
The best song category is always the worst (the two exceptions are this year's Jai Ho and when Eliot Smith was nominated). It slows down the telecast and is boring as can be. I've been waiting for this new for a long, long time.
What's the next shitty change?
by Shermdawg
Jun 29th, 2009
12:16:26 PM
A viewer's choice Oscar?
Stupid, stupid Oscars
by D.Vader
Jun 29th, 2009
12:21:03 PM
Im not always a fan of the Best Song performances, but even I can recognize this as a bad idea.
Why rate 6-10? Why not 1-5?
by D.Vader
Jun 29th, 2009
12:22:05 PM
That's just stupid.
I should recant...
by D.Vader
Jun 29th, 2009
12:25:01 PM
The Best Original Song Oscar needs work yes, but doesn't need to be totally scrapped.
Strangely, I'm okay with this.
by OBSD
Jun 29th, 2009
12:25:19 PM
Not gay. Not a woman. Don't care about this at all.
The problem with the best animated film category...
by rbatty024
Jun 29th, 2009
12:26:09 PM
is that they rely heavily on American animated films, when it's pretty clear that only Pixar deserves to be nominated while the other two slots should probably go to foreign animated films. When Persepolis wasn't nominated it became clear that the category was a joke.
Big Jim...
by Red Ned Lynch
Jun 29th, 2009
12:34:54 PM
...it's okay. I was being sarcastic.
I'm still pissed about THE WRESTLER
by manifestchaos
Jun 29th, 2009
12:35:24 PM
Slumdog was more overrated than Benjamin Button (which at least had its fair share of critics), and JAI HO is just utter shit. Springsteen's song deserved a Nobel Peace Prize more than Boyle's thoroughly mediocre film deserved anything but an award for first-time child actors (they were pretty great).
You know all the decision they make based on
by CherryValance
Jun 29th, 2009
12:37:22 PM
the running time of the ceremony make no sense. Don't mess with awards because you can't produce a short show. Because last year Hugh Jackman did like 27 dance numbers. And there is little I love more than Hugh Jackman and dance numbers but really they have nothing to do with handing out awards. I agree about the presenters walking in but there really isn't any banter. If they just did a straight up dignified awards show, they could have stars present the awards to winners and they could have more than 30 seconds for their speech and they would come in on time. It's all the stuff they add, dance numbers, montages, skits, explaining what film editing is, etc. that slow it down. You know what else they could do, make the clips of the nominees part of the red carpet coverage. Have the official red carpet show start 30 minutes earlier and pack it with nominee clips in between interviews. That way they wouldn't have to show clips during the ceremony.
Persepolis was screwed way harder than TDK
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Jun 29th, 2009
12:48:52 PM
which itself got fucked over. the Oscars as a whole is a joke... and needlessly tweaking the Original Song formula will help nothing.
What about
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
12:59:41 PM
Most anticipated movie? Or viewers choice award!

And to that guy above me saying Persepolis was screwed WAY harder than TDK? I've just read your Subject line I'm not even in full chat expansion mode, but I already know your a boner. What else should Persepolis get? I got an Oscar nom? I guess everytime someone takes a comic and makes a moving replica of it we should all shit our pants in amazement? I guess then Sin City got pretty fucked as well.

D.Vader
by ricarleite2
Jun 29th, 2009
01:03:29 PM
So your crappy song will get a 6, instead of a 1. Sounds better.
Cutting out the worst thing about the Oscars?
by Heckles
Jun 29th, 2009
01:05:50 PM
Say it isn't so. All the song and dance acts were created because every dumb ass movie churned out in Hollywood from the 30's - 50's was a goddam musical. There are more racist robots in movies than musical numbers these days.
When was Persepolis
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
01:07:10 PM
NOT nominated for Best Animated Feature Film of the Year?

Seriously its like you guys have never tried using the internet before. Here is a good link for you.

www.imdb.com

Or

http://www.oscars.org/

Cutting the Thalberg award out is a mistake
by YackBacker
Jun 29th, 2009
01:15:32 PM
And the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award too- these are probably the most worthy awards the Academy hands out- they're not automatically awarded annually- they usually recognize someone that goes beyond simply delivering Oscar-worthy work. I find myself truly disgusted by the Academy with each passing year. When I think I can't lose any more respect for them, they go ahead and pull this shit.
I'm fine with this.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 29th, 2009
01:19:42 PM
Seriously, end-credit B-sides by pop stars and Disney themes don't really do much for me anyway. It is extremely rare that original songs are used within a film - musicals, excepted - without detracting from the narrative of the movie. The key word being "original." Modern film-makers love to insert classic rock songs as a shortcut to setting a mood, and often, as with Tarantino or, as a specific example, Kevin Smith's use of the Jackson 5's "ABC" in CLERKS II, it can be effective. But there's no Oscar for Best Use of Song, is there? Let it go, and, if there's a film in any given year that uses song especially well, acknowledge it with a special Oscar.

I'm also on board for killing Best Animated Feature. Combine it with the animated shorts. Better than giving a nomination to another SHREK or HAPPY FEET or, even, this year's Pixar model just because you have to fill a category with nominations.

Good riddance
by smackfu
Jun 29th, 2009
01:20:44 PM
So you mean no more having sit through horrible, horrible song numbers for songs that in most cases didn't even appear in the film, save for the end credits? Hooray. Sure, every now and then someone actually writes a kick ass song for a film that plays prominently in the film and it's marketing, but the overwhelming majority of the 'original songs' are complete drek.
no best original song GOOD!!!!
by aclockworkkebab
Jun 29th, 2009
01:20:49 PM
when 99% of original song nominations are boring instanty forgettable crap (eminem excluded...Just) its one catagory i can very easily do without, oscar nominated songs are geriatric bullshit for the most part, its like the grammys giving old farts best album awards and artist of the year awards to artists as relevant as the model T Ford, its one part of the ceromny that shows the academy to be old and out of touch, good riddance
"Voice of Oscar's America"?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 29th, 2009
01:24:04 PM
Assinine.

The idea that the Oscars should cater to an audience is assinine.

The Oscars are an industry event, people. You've got your People's Choice and MTV for all that "our votes must be considered" crap.

BEST USE OF A SONG OSCAR
by aclockworkkebab
Jun 29th, 2009
01:24:16 PM
when the perfect song is used in the right scene in can be incredible as opposed to a crappy 4th rate tune tacked on the end crdeits RANDY NEWMAN fuck off!!! sorry was that a bit harsh?
Here's an idea:
by Christopher3
Jun 29th, 2009
01:24:18 PM
Get rid of the Oscars. They promote boring, forgettable "prestige" films that no one remembers a year later. You know what movies I actually remember with more than vague indifference from 2008? Wall-E, Dark Knight, Iron Man and Let the Right One In. That's really about it.
The Thalberg/Jean Hersholt awards are frequently the LAST time a
by Margot_Tenenbaum
Jun 29th, 2009
01:30:11 PM
...gets a moment in the worldwide spotlight. ("Holy cow, Hal Roach is still alive?!?") or a chance to give an overlooked filmmaker an Oscar (pre-prequels Lucas etc.). Cutting these for time is a terrible thing -- it's just because Hollywood can't deal with age.

I agree that they should cut both the Best Animated Feature and Best Original Song categories. They're worthless relics of when Disney was pushing everyone around in the '90s.

If they want to shunt boring crap off the show, why not move best sound/sound editing/visual effects etc. to the technical Oscars ceremony. Or move the Best Documentary, Short Subject to some non-televised hippie commune in Northern California.

no honorary oscars? man, that sucks
by BMacSmith
Jun 29th, 2009
01:36:24 PM
it was a good way for the Oscars to make up for past fuck ups. i couldnt care less about this stupid ass show anymore.
Yes, Christopher3
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 29th, 2009
01:38:25 PM
The Oscars should focus on the movies YOU see, or they shouldn't exist.

Because, as scientists have proven, the world revolves on an axis shoved straight up yours.

Best Original Screenplay
by Amazing Maurice
Jun 29th, 2009
01:41:45 PM
LAWL!

Irony

MY HEART cannot GO ON without an original song...
by FlickaPoo
Jun 29th, 2009
01:50:21 PM
...near, far...wherever you are...how could they to this? Isn't this category full of arbitrary bullshit rules about what can and can't qualify? Wasn't Eddie Vedder disqualified recently?
The Oscars lost me when the added the Designated Hitter.
by AzulTool
Jun 29th, 2009
01:51:54 PM
when THEY added...shit
by AzulTool
Jun 29th, 2009
01:52:55 PM
I haven't watched the Oscars in the past several years
by IndyCollector
Jun 29th, 2009
02:09:09 PM
I really only care who wins and I can find that out on the Internet without having to sit through some boring-ass show first.
Oh, I hope this passes
by Organs
Jun 29th, 2009
02:13:09 PM
The Best Song Oscar category has about as much substance as Olympic Curling.
Oscars is like MTV movie awards. Predictable crud.
by Damien Chowder
Jun 29th, 2009
02:16:55 PM
YEAH THAT"S WHAT WE NEED! LONG ASS MONTAGES
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
02:38:02 PM
Here's a Key Grip Montage!
This ISNT a shitty change
by RipperGiles
Jun 29th, 2009
02:41:43 PM
goddamnit, they don't have to give out awards in a category if there aren't any worthy candidates. If there IS no outstanding song from a film in a given year, why award it to utter shit? It was giving Oscars to piles of shit just to give an award that made "Titanic" and "Gladiator" Academy Award winning films.
Oscars
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
02:44:46 PM
Need to go to the multiple host format like they used to have. But use actual funny people, not flash in the pans....hmmm 1987 Paul Hogan anyone? Which I also see is the last year they did that.
Fuckin' lockesbrokenleg
by Al Swearengen
Jun 29th, 2009
02:46:01 PM
Who the fuck let that hooplehead out of his fuckin' dirt cave?
How come best visual effects
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
02:46:21 PM
Only gets three places? That seems like a mistake on someones part?
Song needs to go...
by ScoreKeeper
Jun 29th, 2009
02:47:31 PM
I've been wanting them to drop Best Song for a long time now. It's the "cheapest" Oscar out there and a category severely lacking in credible candidates every year. Now if they would just bring back a Best Titles award that would put the icing on the cake.
Never understood the problem with being over running time
by smackfu
Jun 29th, 2009
02:52:36 PM
Seriously, why is ABC so worried about interrupting the 11 o'clock local news for a bunch of buttfark affiliates? I'm sure the world won't come to an end if a bunch of geriatric insomniacs don't get to hear about the squirrel loose in the apartment complex or the Baystreet Stop Sign controversy. ABC makes waaaay more money from their Oscar ads broadcasting to half the world than they do from 11pm commercials during a news program that 12 people in Kansas are watching. And it's not like the Affiliates are going to dump ABC just because of a half hour of pre-empted broadcast. 'Sorry ABC, you and I are DONE, professionally. We're going to use that empty channel for...uh...cable access shows...yeah...we didn't want viewers anyway...'
Also how did The Bourne Ultimatum
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
02:52:59 PM
End up with 3 Oscars as well? That seems like a mistake on someones part. It would be cool if Oscars would own up for its mistakes as well, not just in skipping people like Hitchcock and giving them an honarary one.

But having like a review of Oscars from five years ago and seeing if the movie that one for best picture was really correct, and say a movie could be stripped of its title if the said title (Crash) did not win the votes again, after getting some distance from the movie.

How about Best Score and ONE best Song awarded
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
02:55:23 PM
We don't need to see Jamie Foxx singing five songs during the night.
The Oscahs have never been same...
by bswise
Jun 29th, 2009
03:12:18 PM
...since they fired the Solid Gold Dancers. Oh, and I say good riddence to the oxygen-sucking "best song" category.
Couldn't they just solve everything by...
by JacksParasites
Jun 29th, 2009
03:34:33 PM
Couldn't they just solve everything by having higher standards for their nominees. Stop giving awards to flavor of the month movies that audiences will completely forget about in no time. Indian Rags To Riches Boy beat The Dark Knight and Milk? Give me a break. What do Double Indemnity, Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Star Wars, and Pulp Fiction all have in common. None of won the Oscar.
on a scale of 6-10??
by Spice-Orange
Jun 29th, 2009
03:38:08 PM
what the fuck does that even mean. Oscars always confused me as this shit is just a self-love-a-thon. its only fun when a couple of good popular movies people have heard of are nominated so we can all be tense and dramatic about whos gonna win. i hate front runners.
Wanna shorten the show?
by Rocklover79
Jun 29th, 2009
03:39:03 PM
1) Get rid of ALL the montages save for In Memoriam. There are far too many montages and other bits that are ultimately pointless. The chief offender was that horrific shadow dancing garbage a few years ago. We don't want to see that shit! 2) ALL speeches are 45 seconds save for lifetime achievement, which gets two minutes. If they go over, cut their mic off, kill the lights in their section of the stage and go to the next award immediately. 3) No host. Have an announcer just bring out the presenters and that's it. You do all of this and the show is two hours, tops.
Do a two hour Oscar. One Hour is the red carpet
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
03:40:55 PM
The second hour is all the awards starting from Best Actress to the Best Picture. That's it. No songs. No Montages. No awards for the key grip
There shouldn't be an Oscar for "Best Song" anyway
by jawsfan
Jun 29th, 2009
03:43:09 PM
There shouldn't be an Oscar for "Best Song" any more than there should be a Grammy Award for Best Video or a Tony Award for Best Playbill Cover. With a few exceptions, the Best Original Song Oscar has always gone to the "safe" or "bland" choice or to the artist with the most popularity. It rarely has gone to the song that was actually the best song. Of course this is all subjective and, ultimately, pointless. The Best Song winner normally rides the coattails of a high-profile movie. It's like the plain-jane girl getting into the exclusive nightclub because her hot friend tells the bouncer "She's with me".
No awards for the key grip!!!
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
03:45:05 PM
No awards for the key grip!!!! You must not know who the fuck Les T. Tomita is.
And stop dissing Three Six Mafia
by Rocklover79
Jun 29th, 2009
03:45:52 PM
I'm so tired of hearing people bitch about how "oh, so-and-so has no Oscar but those RAPPERS do!" BOO FUCKING HOO, they wrote the best song in the category that year, they deserved to win, they won, the end. Don't compare their win to other people in completely different categories and diss them for winning while your precious actor lost. Diss the Academy for not voting for your precious actor. Three Six Mafia had nothing to do with it.
Don't care for the songs anyway
by REVENGE_of_FETT
Jun 29th, 2009
04:04:46 PM
Comeon, those stupid musical numbers are teh worst part of the Oscars and we all know it. DITCH THE SONGS!
Did no-one see this coming?
by Timstuff
Jun 29th, 2009
04:08:37 PM
There were three songs nominated this year, and 2 of them were from the same freaking movie! It's quite possible that there just aren't enough high quality original songs being paired with movies to justify having the category anymore. :(
Don't get rid of the lifetime achievement awards!
by Royston Lodge
Jun 29th, 2009
04:26:34 PM
I don't really care about the best song award, but it seems silly to get rid of the lifetime achievement awards ESCPECIALLY if the recipient has never won an Oscar.

In fact, I think the lifetime achievement awards should only be given to people who have never won an Oscar, but whose body of work is definitely Oscar-worthy.

I'd also like to see an award for "audacity".
by Royston Lodge
Jun 29th, 2009
04:27:58 PM
Like the one that David Cronenberg was given at Cannes for Crash. Hehehe.
Best Title Design/ Best Title Sequence
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
04:49:20 PM
I know you were joking about this Scorekeeper since Best Title Design only existed in the Silent era, but they really should have an academy award for Best Title Sequence for the opening credits. I mean, the work of Saul Bass alone says that it is an artistic accomplishment and has an impact on how people view the movie, Or as Bass himself said:

"My initial thoughts about what a title can do was to set mood and the prime underlying core of the film's story, to express the story in some metaphorical way. I saw the title as a way of conditioning the audience, so that when the film actually began, viewers would already have an emotional resonance with it."

BEST FONT USED IN A TITLE SEQUENCE
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
04:56:30 PM
Come on. Isn't that a little shitty
lockesbrokenleg
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
05:15:45 PM
In all honesty, can't you remember some title sequences more than you can remember a song from the movie? Hell, I remember some of the title sequences more than I do the movie itself.
And Helvetica would win hands down
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
05:16:48 PM
I like how most movies these days just drop the title
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
05:20:18 PM
sequence. Dark Knight had a bat flying in then the movie started. Perfect.
Hey, when it works it works.
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
05:25:07 PM
I think some movies shouldn't have an open credit sequence, but others (like CATCH ME IF YOU CAN or DAWN OF THE DEAD - a movie I didn't care for but had a brilliant opening) it works wonders for them.
I know I'll get shit for this, but I liked the title
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
05:51:08 PM
sequence for Crystal Skull. With the Elvis song and the convoy heading towards the base.
The Pizza Rule
by RaRoMo
Jun 29th, 2009
06:05:16 PM
Limit the awards to Best Actor/Actress, Best Supporting, Best Writer of an original screenplay, Best Director, Best Cinematographer, Best Score, Best Movie, Best Foreign Film, Everybody Who Kicked the Bucket, Best Old Fart. No more dance numbers. Lots more comedy from the MC. Take best screenplay from an adapted work, best documentary, best short film, best set design, best make-up, best special effects, best wardrobe, etc. etc., and put them on that other show we don’t have to watch. The Academy Awards should only last as long as a pizza stays warm.
Can we see more of the after parties?
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
06:06:26 PM
The E coverage just doesn't cut it anymore. i want to see Angelina Jole stone faced drunk, and Mickey Roucke hitting on a ton of babes.
RaRoMo
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
06:12:47 PM
No Best Editing? You know that is the only thing unique about filmmaking?
Continentalop
by RaRoMo
Jun 29th, 2009
06:18:53 PM
Absolutely, Best Editing. Editing makes or breaks a film. Everything else is just raw possibilities. Thanks for refining my list.
JacksParasites: Casablanca won Best Picture in 1943.
by Rev. Slappy
Jun 29th, 2009
06:28:26 PM
It also won for director and screenplay.
3 words - Oscar Winner Eminem.
by JuanSanchez
Jun 29th, 2009
06:28:32 PM
That's why the category needs to go bye bye.
Best titles or most inventive credits would be nice.
by JuanSanchez
Jun 29th, 2009
06:30:03 PM
I those were around 30 years ago the Zucker/Abrams/Zucker crew would have a dozen.
Best Titles cat. WTF?
by Logan_1973
Jun 29th, 2009
06:32:46 PM
Sounds like something MTV would do for their award show, or an SNL skit poking fun at the Academy.

If Best Song has to stay, at least eliminate the live performances. They've been a horrible pace-killer for years.

Why not Best Tittles?
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
06:46:32 PM
I have no problem honoring any category that is a legitimate artistic/creative field. So make-up, Sound FX, sound editing, FX, costume, art direction would still be honored.

The thing I laugh at is that for a bunch of supposed film aficionados you guys really don't seem to give a shit about who contributes on a film beyond the big name categories like director, actor or writer, much like the average filmgoer only cares about stars. I mean, do you think art director Dick Sylbert didn't have an impact on the movies he worked on, or costume designer Edit Head, or editor/sound designer Walter Murch or makeup artist Rick Baker or graphic designer Saul Bass? Hell, I could make the argument that Dede Allen was the bigger auteur in the editing bay than most of the directors she worked for.

"Tittles" WTF is a "Tittles"
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
06:49:58 PM
I meant ever "Titles" or Titties". I'll let you decide which category it should be.
Best title or credits.
by Mel_Gibsons_Nazi_Dad
Jun 29th, 2009
07:22:51 PM
What is the only way Watchmen will win an Oscar?
How irrelevant are the oscars now?
by Mel_Gibsons_Nazi_Dad
Jun 29th, 2009
07:39:12 PM
Does anyone really care to watch the big jew and homo lovefest?

I kid! About the jew part at least.

Name a movie about jews or gays that won best picture
by Continentalop
Jun 29th, 2009
08:00:08 PM
About Jews = A Gentleman's Agreement, Driving Miss Daisy and Schindler's List. Movies about gays - none (one if you really want to push Midnight Cowboy).

There have been more Best Picture winners about people from India - Gandhi and Slumdog Millionaires - that has won best picture than about gay people, and just as many movies about Viet Nam as moves about jews. So you're argument has no basis whatsoever.

Movies about messed up babes always win
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
08:10:53 PM
Or messed up sports athletes.
Why raise the bar for songs but lower it for best picture?
by Flim Springfield
Jun 29th, 2009
09:06:49 PM
I say raise the bar for every category. "It's an honour just to be nominated" would no longer just be a cliche.
I approve of a Best Titties category.
by Flim Springfield
Jun 29th, 2009
09:09:03 PM
I think the biggest problem with the Oscars
by Series7
Jun 29th, 2009
09:38:11 PM
Is the Razzies. They don't even try. They are the equivalent to a middle school newspaper worst of the year list. There is so much potential, but they don't even try. Wow Love Guru is the worst, good job. I take it real funny people don't run it. Seriously, it must take about all of 10 minutes to come up with the Razzies, they could do a lot better. Be a lot meaner.
Dumbest Motherfucker Category
by My_IQ_is_135
Jun 29th, 2009
09:52:20 PM
Continentalop
by ScoreKeeper
Jun 29th, 2009
10:11:13 PM
Actually I wasn't joking. I was dead serious and you hit the nail on the head. Title sequences are like short films all made by people who specialize in title sequences...SEVEN, CATCH ME IF YOU CAN, CHARLOTTE'S WEB, IRON MAN, SPIDER-MAN 2, PANIC ROOM, and tons of others all had insanely cool title sequences that deserve recognition. They need to bring back the Oscar for this category, plain and simple.
And if thinking of End Title Sequences
by ScoreKeeper
Jun 29th, 2009
10:14:19 PM
LEMONY SNICKET's End Titles were far far better than the movie itself. WALL-E's art-history end titles were also super-cool.
Best Emotionally Uplifting Montage
by cylon_conspiracy
Jun 29th, 2009
10:16:03 PM

Best killing story development at the third act while we wait for the bad guy to die.

Best Political Insult at Republicans

Best unrealistic portrayal of romance in movies (ie nice guy gets girl at end for being nice)

Best FX Picture to feature major landmarks to be destroyed (GI Joe for the Eiffel Tower, 2012 for the White Hosue)

Best fictional category

Best Snarky Indie Film Made for and by hipsters
by cylon_conspiracy
Jun 29th, 2009
10:19:31 PM
Forgot that one. Could be a tossup between that maya rudolph movie where they are better than everyone else, and that 500 days movie where Zooey sings Smiths songs to enraptured indie boys everywhere, like me. But I'm not falling for it this time after Yes Man.
Lemony Snicket's end titles were the best ever
by D.Vader
Jun 29th, 2009
10:25:56 PM
That was like a mini-movie itself.
Best Scooby Doo ending
by CherryValance
Jun 29th, 2009
10:27:23 PM

Best Blinking Instead of Actual Crying

Best Pacing While Yelling

Best Green Saturation

Best Camera-Shake In The Place of Fight Choreography

Best Token Old Person in a Comedy

Best Gay Pirate/Vampire/Droid

I'd LOVE to have a "Best Title Sequence" category
by Nasty In The Pasty
Jun 29th, 2009
10:33:07 PM
One of the things I most look forward to when I see a new Tim Burton movie is the ALWAYS awesome title sequence he comes up with. In fact, despite Big Fish being an awesome movie in virtually every other respect, the lack of a "Burtonian" title sequence was actually disappointing to me. Often a title sequence can be the most memorable part of a movie (what was that Nic Cage movie from a few years back with the title sequence that followed a single bullet from it's "birth" to it's "death" as it enters a human's body? That was fucking AWESOME).
nasty
by dalbatron
Jun 29th, 2009
10:43:22 PM
lord of war... awesome!
Coolest ass Slow Mo Bullet sequence!
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
11:01:10 PM
Ehhh, meh, yeah, weird
by Jaka
Jun 29th, 2009
11:01:43 PM
10 best pic, ehhh, not sure on that - but I do see how it will allow more films to say "nominated for best picture". Meh to the Best Song set up. Sounds like it may still need some work, but I agree about the end title songs. They SHOULD be eligible. Yeah, I totally agree about the title sequence award needing to be brought back. Se7en deserved it's own special award for just that. Changed the way title sequences are viewed by the industry, imo (also an incredibly brilliant use of a piece of NIN music that I owned before I saw it - freaked me out). Why would they remove the awards that honor people for something other than a (usually) fleeting moment. That's kinda weak sauce. But then I also think somebody should televise the technical awards show, with advertising and everything, as well.
Most Blankest performance, most overrated Pixar movie
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 29th, 2009
11:08:03 PM
Most overhyped Disney song, most overhyped and shitty Brad Pitt movie. Best Angelina Jolie facial tick.
Scorekeeper
by Continentalop
Jun 30th, 2009
12:20:57 AM
Glad to see we agree. Going back in time, think what certain movies would be like without there awesome opening credits sequences: The Bond movies, The Wild Bunch ("Anybody movies, kill 'em!"), The Warriors, Thomas Crown Affair, or Kiss Me Deadly?
axel fff
by Continentalop
Jun 30th, 2009
12:22:55 AM
Without a doubt. Bass' work on Scorsese's Goodfellas is still one of the best credit sequences ever: simple but incredibly effective. And one of his most overlooked ones his his great opening credits he did for Preminger's Bunny Lake is Missing.

By chance anybody ever see the movie Bass directed about the super-smart ants?

at first...
by thegimik
Jun 30th, 2009
12:33:08 AM
songs from dancer in the dark, once, and even south park really worked well. they deserve to be recognized, i kinda like what they are dong. they are making it about how the song fits in with the film and not about what gets played on the readio...
The Day the Oscars Died
by DrMorbius
Jun 30th, 2009
12:37:52 AM
"It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp".

That is all.

I hope Purple Rain wins best song
by The_Ritty
Jun 30th, 2009
01:17:05 AM
but seriously
by The_Ritty
Jun 30th, 2009
01:19:17 AM
how did Song of the Heart win a Golden Globe and not even get a NOMINATION? Huh? Douche chill...
I Hope the KILL the Song category all together!
by NightAvatar
Jun 30th, 2009
07:38:53 AM
I don't see why they can't just drop the category from the whole show. It's a joke anyway! It usually showcases one or two movies - almost always a Disney movie and sometimes the years "musical" if one exists. A joke!
Why wasn't America, Fuck Yeah
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Jun 30th, 2009
07:46:41 AM
nominated for best original song? Because the Academy has no guts.
Best Title? Really?
by ricarleite2
Jun 30th, 2009
09:49:44 AM
So movies like Dark Knight and Apocalypse Now would not be ellidgeble, right?
End Title Sequences
by Series7
Jun 30th, 2009
10:11:45 AM
xXx, those were really cool. Can't really say anything about the movie, slept through it. Yeah I fucking paid $6 to take a nap in a nasty theater.
Hmmm. Sounds shitty
by Lou C.
Jun 30th, 2009
10:58:55 AM
I would like the Best Original Song category to stay, but they need to change the process. First of all, seeing Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova up there to accept for "Once," was a great moment. But they need to stop eliminating songs that sample other works from the process, and just call it "Best Song." What they do now sounds extraordinarily stupid, and Vedder and Springsteen being snubbed shows there are good candidates left out. I'll kinda miss the honorary Oscar speech, but not when it's Warren Beatty talking for 40 minutes, so I guess that's fine. As for Best Animated Film, doesn't that REALLY need to go away now? If it's not good enough to be listed among the ten best films of the year, it really doesn't deserve to be in a separate category.
continentalop: saul bass and the smarty ants
by Raymond Shaw
Jun 30th, 2009
01:03:00 PM
That would be "Phase IV". Neat science fiction film, now available on DVD. Nicely ambiguous. Couldn't be made today, it would be ruined by CGI.
But Scorekeeper...
by Logan_1973
Jun 30th, 2009
02:39:15 PM
9 times out of 10 those opening title sequences are from the vision of the director. Snyder's Watchmen, Speilberg/Lucas' Indy 4, for example. Chances are the Directors would be getting the honor anyway...
Continentalop, I didn't mean the movies
by Mel_Gibsons_Nazi_Dad
Jun 30th, 2009
03:06:50 PM
I meant the people making them.
lookit who's in the Academy
by CherryValance
Jun 30th, 2009
03:37:43 PM
http://tinyurl.com/mxoe8a
Most over-rated Pixar?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 30th, 2009
05:32:54 PM
Jebus.

Up! probably, but only because WALL*E half-brought the goods.

I dunno. Can I change my vote? All of them except TOY STORY II and THE INCREDIBLES?

Golly. That's an award that would cause the Academy to blow a collective gasket.

And I was looking forward to...
by Triple_J_72
Jun 30th, 2009
05:53:26 PM
...FINALLY seeing Harrison Ford get his due by getting a "Lifetime Achievement" Oscar. Now that may never happen... DAMN YOU, Academy!
When are the Oscar people going to realize
by thelordofhell
Jun 30th, 2009
06:17:37 PM
It's not about cutting the awards or the speeches, it's about cutting EVERYTHING ELSE!! I was going to watch the last Academy Awards ceremony all the way through, but when I saw Hugh Jackman standing on top of some shit singing, "I'M WOLVERINE!!!", I turned my TV off and went back to my computer. Academy people listen to this.....NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT WITTY HOST BANTER, STUPID MONTAGES, PRESENTER'S CONVERSATIONS LONGER THAN THE TIME YOU "ALLOW" FOR ACCEPTANCE SPEECHES!! FUCK YOUR BLOWHARD EXTRAS AND JUST GIVE US HOST INTRODUCTION, PRESENTER INTRODUCTION, NOMINEE INTRODUCTION(with clips), WINNER ANNOUNCEMENT, AND ACCEPTANCE SPEECH. THANK YOU, GOOD NIGHT, THAT'S FUCKIN' IT!!
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