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Jeeze! Like This Thing Isn't Long Enough Already
by kevinwillis.net
Jun 24th, 2009
12:41:16 PM
I'll be interested to find out who the nominate. But I'm not going to watch it. Until Midnight. This is a way to boost ratings?
FIRST!!!
by Evangelion217
Jun 24th, 2009
12:41:31 PM
Great!
by gavdiggity
Jun 24th, 2009
12:41:37 PM
five extra undeserving nominees for Best Picture...
Patton Oswalt to Host
by kevinwillis.net
Jun 24th, 2009
12:42:07 PM
Hey, I'm just saying. It's a good idea.
Okay, so they couldn't do this LAST YEAR for "The Dark Knight!!!
by Evangelion217
Jun 24th, 2009
12:42:30 PM
If their were 10 oscar nominees last year, then "The Dark Knight" would of been one of them. I guarantee it!
Steve Martin and Letterman
by Rat Fink
Jun 24th, 2009
12:43:12 PM
Are both a couple of tools. So is Hercules!
YES! now TF2 will have a chance for a nom!
by RaveX
Jun 24th, 2009
12:44:11 PM
Let's just nominate
by Rat Fink
Jun 24th, 2009
12:44:56 PM
every fucking movie! 10 is way too much. Should just be 3.
Only for Best Picture?
by Geomancer21
Jun 24th, 2009
12:44:56 PM
Guess that means best animated film will still only be 3.
kevinwillis...
by gavdiggity
Jun 24th, 2009
12:45:22 PM
I'll sign that petition... although Hollywood doesn't have the stones to have Patton host.
No, They Don't
by kevinwillis.net
Jun 24th, 2009
12:46:31 PM
They should have Patton Oswalt and either Jeff Foxworthy or Larry the Cable Guy co-host. That would be an evening to remember.
Letterman on ABC not gonna happen
by iownyou
Jun 24th, 2009
12:47:21 PM
try again
Prediction
by Samuel Fulmer
Jun 24th, 2009
12:47:36 PM
"Now here's Jonah Hex's Megan Fox introducing a clip from the best picture nominated Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen."
Joaquin Phoenix should Host
by ChezKing
Jun 24th, 2009
12:48:00 PM
That'd be....interesting... Or maybe, Christian Bale.... He could shout out the nominies, announce the winners angrily. It would be a new and different spin on the Oscars.
I'll Tune Into Watch if they Burn Dane Cook in Effigy
by kevinwillis.net
Jun 24th, 2009
12:48:20 PM
That doesn't have much to do with the Oscars. Just saying, I might watch it if they did that.
Sean Penn should host as Harvey Milk
by Samuel Fulmer
Jun 24th, 2009
12:48:27 PM
Evangelion I'm with You
by MGTHEDJ
Jun 24th, 2009
12:50:08 PM
"The Dark Night Rule." Time Warner has a lot of power in Hollywood. The ratings for the show last year sucked because The Dar Knight was not nominated for Best Pic.-----later-----m
10 NOMINEES?
by Shermdawg
Jun 24th, 2009
12:50:23 PM
That's the stupidest thing I've heard lately.
Change the name to "So You Think You Can Act?"
by cookylamoo
Jun 24th, 2009
12:51:38 PM
And turn the judging over to AICN. Then watch Ryan Reynolds and Megan Fox win.
Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen
by CaseyMcCall
Jun 24th, 2009
12:52:38 PM
That should be a shoe-in now...
kevinwillis
by gavdiggity
Jun 24th, 2009
12:52:49 PM
I'm interested in your organization. Please send me some of your literature.
Good.
by philjackson
Jun 24th, 2009
12:53:28 PM
Let's hope that people don't see this as watering down the accomplishment that goes with the best picture nomination.
Only for best picture? What about Director and writing?
by spectrebeeyatch
Jun 24th, 2009
12:53:30 PM
Actors can stay at 5 though.
THE DARK KNIGHT RULE
by MGTHEDJ
Jun 24th, 2009
12:54:12 PM
Damn Typos!!
I think this will help Wolverine:Origins
by Samuel Fulmer
Jun 24th, 2009
12:54:13 PM
It will get a nomination, as well as Dance Movie, and New in Town.
hmmm...
by spooky2k
Jun 24th, 2009
12:55:36 PM
So we get this in a year where there aren't more than 3 or so good movies! UP (stop giving pixar animated film noms, they're jsut as valid and better crafted than most live action), The Hangover...any other actual good films this year? I can't think of anymore...
Because the show wasn't long enough already!
by REVENGE_of_FETT
Jun 24th, 2009
12:56:15 PM
Seriously, what is the point of this? It just makes everything a longer shot and will irritate more people in the industry and fans of the show.
Slight mistake in this report
by madfreethinker
Jun 24th, 2009
12:56:24 PM
The Academy fielded ten Best Picture nominees till the mid 1940s. And I'll agree with Hercules in wanting to see Steve Martin or David Letterman as a host again.
just best picture..
by Six Demon Bag
Jun 24th, 2009
12:57:30 PM
then they will have to do director and screenplay...how the fuck are they gonna do actors and actressess?
10 for Best Picture only? Fine...
by GunRunner
Jun 24th, 2009
12:57:30 PM
As long as its not every dang category. The stupid thing is long enough already, and maybe they'll give the more mainstream films that people have actually seen a chance rather than just Indie Sundance crap.
Can we get a fact check please?
by Pancho_Villa
Jun 24th, 2009
12:57:48 PM
"the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences just announced it will for the first time field 10 best picture nominees instead of five." 1943 was the last year to have 10 films up for best picture....just look it up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A cademy_Award_for_Best_Picture# 1940s
Another 5 losers then.
by DC Films
Jun 24th, 2009
12:58:03 PM
only best picture?
by JAMF
Jun 24th, 2009
12:58:13 PM
thank god for that. i had visions of 'academy award nominee' after EVERY ACTOR'S NAME on posters/trailers from now on.
I disagree with Herc ...
by thepentaveret
Jun 24th, 2009
12:58:34 PM
The problem isn't great films being left out of the mix. The problem is voters choosing the wrong five for the honor. I think Hollywood is hard-pressed now to find a handful each year that actually deserve to be nominated. There's so many other things the Academy should be focusing on (a GOOD host, show length, comedy category). This announcement is ridiculous. ... "TDK" was robbed!
I disagree
by Knightsong
Jun 24th, 2009
12:58:44 PM
I work at a theater and see tons of movies, and I'm lucky to be able to pick 5 worthy of best picture let alone 10. Maybe I see too many mainstream movies, and not enough of the indy or limited stuff that gets the nominations. I say if it's a worthy film and it's getting good buzz, get it to the mainstream theaters for people to see. I tired of the oscar nominations coming around each year and going, "Never heaqrd of them, never heard of that, nope never heard of that either."
No Steve Martin
by MGTHEDJ
Jun 24th, 2009
12:59:38 PM
He ridicules Scientology.
kevinwillis.
by HoboCode
Jun 24th, 2009
01:01:32 PM
good call. Is this not goign to make this wankfest even longer? sheesh.
Youre "all kinds of" what for this Herc? All kinds of WHAT?
by D.Vader
Jun 24th, 2009
01:02:00 PM
Inquiring minds want to know!

Also, uhhhh... I dunno about this. Doubling the amount of Best Picture nominees? Why? Why not just add 2 more to the list? Now it will be doubly insulting when the fantastic foreign film or animated film doesn't get a nomination. Or it might just lower the quality of every other good film when something mediocre gets on the list because they couldn't find 10 good films that year.

no new host needed
by vaterite
Jun 24th, 2009
01:03:46 PM
Hugh was awesome.
Daniel Day-Lewis to host as Daniel Plainview
by DC Films
Jun 24th, 2009
01:04:23 PM
I'm done...
There are not 10 Best Picture deserving films....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
01:04:37 PM
....each year. There are probably one or two. If anything they should cut the nominees down. Fuck this.
Daniel Day-Lewis to host as Daniel Plainview
by DC Films
Jun 24th, 2009
01:05:18 PM
I'M DONE....
Let me guess -
by Harry Weinstein
Jun 24th, 2009
01:06:36 PM
Still three films for Best Animated Feature. And if it looks like there might be five, we'll start disqualifying films until there's not enough "eligible" titles. Can't let the Japs or the fucking Frenchies get a fair shot, can we?
This is dumb
by Toilet_Terror
Jun 24th, 2009
01:08:50 PM
I'm the only person I know of
by beastie
Jun 24th, 2009
01:10:47 PM
who enjoys every minute of the Oscars, even when I disagree. I'm all for this, for selfish reasons.
10???
by one9deuce
Jun 24th, 2009
01:11:15 PM
Nothing More Than Marketing...
by Marshal_Lannes
Jun 24th, 2009
01:12:11 PM
...and pretty cynical marketing at that. I can see it now, "On DVD and Blu-Rray January 15th, "Transformers, Revenge of the Fallen", nominated for Best Picture by the Academy of Motion Pictures... :::sicks up lunch on keyboard:::
So now it's 9 or 10 movies people will forget in 5 years
by Pongo
Jun 24th, 2009
01:13:07 PM
Face it--most of the movies chosen as best picture are forgotten quickly. Hollywood gets it wrong every time.
bad idea
by Tenenbaum
Jun 24th, 2009
01:13:29 PM
It's a gimmick to attract viewership. The Academy needs to either appeal to the lower common denominator and nominate films that regular joe six pack types enjoy, or they need to forget ab ratings and appeal to their niche base.
Yeah, this is stupid
by D.Vader
Jun 24th, 2009
01:13:36 PM
Suddenly made the show much less competitive. I can't wait until next year when we can call "The Hangover" an "Oscar-nominated film".

Groan.

At last! Room for "Transformers"....
by darthliquidator
Jun 24th, 2009
01:14:59 PM
...and "Land Of The Lost" ,"G.I.Joe" and the Eddie Murphy, "Year One",...and maybe a special "Ed Wood Lifetime Achievment" award for Michael Bay.
Ten
by ColonelFatheart
Jun 24th, 2009
01:15:36 PM
They just want to atone for not having the Dark Knight in last year's slate. They really think more people will watch because Star Trek WILL be in this year's slate, maybe even Avatar.
Pixar
by MattDomville
Jun 24th, 2009
01:16:54 PM
...will be more difficult to ignore if you have to choose 10 films. I'm sick of the "Animated Feature" consolation prize.
Now Hollywood just has to...
by j_difool
Jun 24th, 2009
01:18:53 PM
Now Hollywood just has to... make 10 "Oscar-worthy" films in a year. Can you do it, Hollywood? Gladiator doesn't count.
jesus relax people
by mrgreentheplant
Jun 24th, 2009
01:19:20 PM
this means movies like Up can be nominated and have a shot at winning. maybe even a curveball like Star Trek will get nominated (but wont win) like they sometimes do at the golden globes
Awesome. Now let's eliminate the gender segregation for acting a
by heavenlykid
Jun 24th, 2009
01:20:18 PM
Seriously, do we have a best female director? A best female screenwriter? Why best female actor? And don't tell me performance is different. Kate Winslet should be allowed to go head to head against Sean Penn.
acting awards
by heavenlykid
Jun 24th, 2009
01:21:20 PM
got cut off. Which hopefully didn't take too much of my fire.
Heavenlykid
by ColonelFatheart
Jun 24th, 2009
01:22:04 PM
Absolutely right. A performance is a performance. Continue to divide by lead/supporting, but let's integrate the sexes already.
Oscars
by Philvis
Jun 24th, 2009
01:23:42 PM
That crap is still televised????
VERY not good
by ZoeFan
Jun 24th, 2009
01:24:44 PM
This means nothing. There's still one winner. What good does 10 vs. 5 nominations do? What they should do is have more nominees for SFX and open some new catagories.
I see where this is headed.
by Flyingcircus
Jun 24th, 2009
01:26:32 PM
In this increasingly PC world, "competition" hurts people's feelings when they don't win. Eventually, ALL pictures will win Oscars so that everybody stays happy and nobody is offended.
very hesitant about this
by hegele
Jun 24th, 2009
01:27:37 PM
This is a huge announcement but it is not the first time that the Best Picture had ten slots a year. The shame is that with double the slots, its half as meaningful for a film to get nominated for best picture. I mean seriously, as it is with five it becomes an honor in itself to be nominated, and guessing what films will be nominated is quite difficult/fun. Now, they are going to have to settle for more mediocre films that are there because of the history of the director/producer/cast. I'm exited to see how it pans out, but i'm also very hesitant. If there is a category that needs ten nominees, its The Foreign Film category. I'd hate to see mediocre shit get nominated for best picture and find out some of the years best foreign films aren't even acknowledged. This happens every year, and this year it will be twice as obnoxious. I can't even think of five films so far this year (in english) that i'd be willing to give a nomination to. With that many slots we'll likely see shit like The Soloist nominated, which will make it much more idiotic when brilliant films like The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford get shafted.
How 'bout instead of 10 for best picture...
by gavdiggity
Jun 24th, 2009
01:31:37 PM
(which usually has a hard time finding 5 worth the noms), they have 5 nominees in a Best Comedy category? Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer will finally get the awards they so richly deserve.
This is just another gimmick; it won't last long
by RobotKing
Jun 24th, 2009
01:32:01 PM
to get people to tune into the telecast. Every time the ratings go down, they try to look for something new to spice things up. People will tire of this in like two or three years and then they'll go back to 5.
Yeah does this mean Pixar wins every year now?
by D.Vader
Jun 24th, 2009
01:32:17 PM
Since they usually end up having the best review average, more than any other film released each year? Like someone said above, it will be harder to ignore them. Or they won't even bother with a nomination.
Oh....
by RobotKing
Jun 24th, 2009
01:35:10 PM
and I second the notion for a stunt coordination Oscar. If you want to get more movie fans and young people to tune in, they should do this.
Nice in theory
by buffywrestling
Jun 24th, 2009
01:35:56 PM
But when you consider the limited choices for best and/or supporting actress....it's lean like Joan Cusack being nominated.
Star Trek should be Nominated
by Hyman
Jun 24th, 2009
01:36:38 PM
Enough said.
It's a marketing scheme
by YackBacker
Jun 24th, 2009
01:37:12 PM
Fuck, now we're going to see movie trailers with "Academy Awward® Nominee Jack Black" FUUUUUUUCK!!!!!
DILUTION & VOTE-SPLITTING
by Mullah Omar
Jun 24th, 2009
01:37:35 PM
I don't like the idea of diluting the significance of the nominations by this much. Adding 1-2 more would have made sense to me, but doubling the number of nominations seems like too far too fast.

Also, I can only guess that with more options to split the vote, we'll have a bigger chance of an upset that pisses people off. Of course loads of Best Picture awards go to lesser films anyway, but I don't see this improving the situation, unless they really believe that "just getting nominated is an honor."
Big Mistake
by crazybubba
Jun 24th, 2009
01:38:37 PM
at the risking of reading too much into this, they're probably doing this to generate more box office. nominated films usually see an increase in ticket sales.

this will water down the categories and the gluttony of nominations will cause people to lose interest or not focus on any of the nominations at all.

And the Oscars are pretty irrelevant nowadays
by YackBacker
Jun 24th, 2009
01:38:51 PM
I can't remember the last time I, or anyone I know, sat down to watch anything more than 30 minutes of that show. It's a damned disaster. Now twice as long!
Horrible Idea
by GunterMonkey
Jun 24th, 2009
01:39:46 PM
Why not make it 15 or 20? Hell, just give everyone a nomination....
watered down
by BMacSmith
Jun 24th, 2009
01:40:12 PM
Name ten really high quality films from Hollywood
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
01:40:41 PM
last year. The year before, a little easier. We're half way through this year: Are there even five?
Pixar high ratings? Who gives a fuck?
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
01:42:00 PM
Cloverfield had consistently good ratings....should it have been eligible for Best Picture? Get out of here with that nonsense. They made the toon category for a reason, to tell Lasseter's fat ass to shut the fuck up.

PIXAR = ANIMATED OSCAR BAIT


by arby64
Jun 24th, 2009
01:42:56 PM
"How does it feel to be nominated?" "It's an honor just to be nominated ....... well ... not as much of an honor as last year, but still, it's nice."
Uhhh, that's the point Danny
by D.Vader
Jun 24th, 2009
01:44:43 PM
They have TEN freaking spots open now. It seems like they'd have to, at some point, acknowledge the films that have the highest critical ratings. Would that put Cloverfield into the mix? Maybe, who knows? Its a terrible idea.
Bad Fucking Idea
by MetalMickey
Jun 24th, 2009
01:45:54 PM
This is going to result in a calvacade of "Marisa Tomei" Best Picture decisions. 6 nominees would've been passable, but 10 is INCREDIBLY stupid.
Academy: scrap this and follow the American Idol model.
by GunterMonkey
Jun 24th, 2009
01:47:04 PM
With this many nominees, it's time to expand...If they're going for ratings and a financial boost, maybe they should just go with an American Idol scheme and eliminate a couple pictures every week leading up to the Oscars? It would build tension, and everyday movie goers can have a vote too. I hope everyone can tell I'm joking. Having 10 nominees is simply ridiculous.
I agree it is a bad idea.......
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
01:47:19 PM
But the name dropping of Pixar for a Best Picture win gives me the runs. Why don't they just go all the way and name the highest grossing film the Best Picture every year?!
It's Conan's time to host
by estacado1
Jun 24th, 2009
01:47:26 PM
Since he switched shows, he really has upped his game.
It's all about MONEY
by Rhinosaur
Jun 24th, 2009
01:50:43 PM
A) For ratings...how likely are you to watch an Oscar broadcast full of movies you've not seen? B) More movies will be able to tag "Oscar nominated" on their ads, giving more movies that post-Oscar-nomination-announce ment-pre-Oscar-broadcast increase at the box office, maybe even resulting in more second releases. C) I think it's dumb, but I know why they are doing it. They need to do a better job of nominating instead of just adding more. The "it has to be a drama or one of the greatest comedies ever or it won't get nominated" is just a nearsighted way of looking at the best that Hollywood has to offer.
Ricky Gervais should host
by ZombieHeathLedger
Jun 24th, 2009
01:52:03 PM
Funniest most fearless comic in the Hollywood inside at the moment imho.
Because that's the tired old argument, Danny
by D.Vader
Jun 24th, 2009
01:59:55 PM
That the amount of money a picture made is equal to quality.

Its a much less respected argument than the "amount of critical praise a film receives is equal to quality" argument.

Pixar's films are consistently among the top rated films each year, like it or not. You can't debate that.

Nix the 1 week in LA and NYC rule
by RobertBaron
Jun 24th, 2009
02:07:49 PM
That's what's killing the Oscars. They only have to release a movie for one week in NY and LA to qualify, so you end up having a number of nominees from movies that most Americans haven't even been able to see.

I'd also like to see the Academy spruce up the telecast. How about taking it out of the stodgy 1940's style and make it a little more hip, fun and spontaneous. I swear every year the sets are the same garish and tacky Art Deco Golden Age of Hollywood bullshit.

Finally, for some really out of the box thinking (which I'm not sure I even agree with myself), how about making box office and a fan vote a percentage of the voting, say like 20%. Kind of like how they do with All Star selections.

I should clarify the NYC/LA comment.
by RobertBaron
Jun 24th, 2009
02:09:29 PM
The Academy should change the qualification so a movie has to be in theatres for a say a month on at least 500 (1000??) screens to qualify.
Hercules you are vacant moron on your best days
by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer
Jun 24th, 2009
02:09:33 PM
first you pick the 2 worst hosts in the last ten years..(It should be Sienfeld's gig and that was proven from his performance 2 years ago)..and second..what's the point? YAY..THE SHOW NOW GETS TO BE ANOTHER HOUR LONGER..and now there are 9 losers instead of 4..is anyone going to seriously keep track of 10 nominees..ultimately what you end up with is 4 pictures that don't deserve to be there and are just filler..jesus man..
if they want to do this so bad
by Timahh
Jun 24th, 2009
02:12:06 PM
split it into two groups of five. comedy and drama. (no musicals)
HORRIBLE IDEA
by DECEPTICLES
Jun 24th, 2009
02:12:37 PM


SHAMELESS plea for ratings and to placate the people who think "popular" films get shafted.

...and come on, when was the last time there was 10 worthy pictures in a year? Mos years I can't find FIVE worth nominating!

DVader and DGDB
by Six Demon Bag
Jun 24th, 2009
02:13:11 PM
UP highest rated film so far this year...will it win best picture?

not a chance.

and that new Cam Diaz film doesnt count yet..
by Six Demon Bag
Jun 24th, 2009
02:13:38 PM
at 100%
Oh joy...
by midgarddragon
Jun 24th, 2009
02:15:26 PM
Now the less-than-worthy (but still great) Up and Star Trek will get Best Pic nominations when WALL-E, the best-reviewed and obvious best of last year got left out in the cold. Will love to hear the Armond White "WALL-E sucks" crowd (i.e. those who crap on good movies just to be different) saying we told you so. *sigh*
oh, and i dont understand...
by Timahh
Jun 24th, 2009
02:16:15 PM
...where you guys are getting 2 hours logner from? How long does it take you to say 5 things out loud. Double that. Oh, and i guess the time for those clips or whatever if they still do that(they probably won't) this won't make anything to long. It will cheapen the nomination, but the studios don't care. And thats what matters most.
(to the Academy anyway)
by Timahh
Jun 24th, 2009
02:17:09 PM
INSTANT RUNOFF Voting REQUIRED
by DarthCorleone
Jun 24th, 2009
02:18:44 PM
This is dismaying. It does seem to devalue the honor. That said, if it gets more truly great films that are overlooked some recognition (and I'm NOT talking about studio movies WALL*E or THE DARK KNIGHT), then I suppose it could do some good.

That all said, with ten nominees, the Academy absolutely MUST do something about the voting procedure. You can't have a straight-up who-gets-the-most-votes in a scenario like this and expect to produce the actual favorite movie. You're certainly never going to get a majority on one ballot. Do some research, Academy, and institute INSTANT RUNOFF for the Best Picture voting procedure. It's the only thing that will make sense.
Hmmmmm
by The Dum Guy
Jun 24th, 2009
02:19:22 PM
Won't this make being nominated for best pic a little less impressive?

Star Trek getting an a Best Picture nom is a disgrace
by RobertBaron
Jun 24th, 2009
02:20:24 PM
if that happens. With 10 noms, Up deserves one. Last year, Wall-E deserved one as well, Best Animated be damned. Wall-E was one of the best fucking movies of the year.
&
by The Dum Guy
Jun 24th, 2009
02:20:44 PM
Will they start nominating obscure films that most people have never heard of?
They do this a year after TDK, eh?
by AzulTool
Jun 24th, 2009
02:22:50 PM
What an outrage! This is going to alter the great tradition of the Academy Awards! HeHe. I love the fact that they think that this will drum up interest in the telecast. You want to know why the ratings are down? Because NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THIS GAY SHIT!
There's no excuse for Up not getting a Best Pic nomination.
by ColonelFatheart
Jun 24th, 2009
02:23:07 PM
Yeah, that's right, Pixar haters. I said it.
the 10 Nominees are
by JohnRyder
Jun 24th, 2009
02:25:18 PM
AVATAR, AVATAR, AVATAR, AVATAR, AVATAR, AVATAR, AVATAR, AVATAR, AVATAR, AVATAR
Oscars as blowjob...
by Unscripted
Jun 24th, 2009
02:25:35 PM
That's all the Oscars are, the industry giving itself a blowjob. Who CARES?
I'm so happy about this.
by CherryValance
Jun 24th, 2009
02:26:05 PM
I've wanted them to have more nominees for sooooooo long. The snobs hate the idea because they think Year One is gonna get nominated, but the fact is quality films get left behind every year because not enough people have seen them, they don't have the backing of the right people, not a large enough campaign, etc. I think this helps the little guy. And it will trickle down to the rest of the categories. Because actors have a hard time getting nominated sometimes if their performance isn't in an "Oscar worthy" film. So if there are more "Oscar worthy" films, at least more that the academy will watch, that'll give actors a better chance too, imo.

This is the best news I've heard in a while seriously. I was all depressed when I woke up this morning. And then when I read this I popped up so high off my chair that I almost hit the ceiling. :D YAY for movies!!!! *hugs everyone*

an the winner is...
by JohnRyder
Jun 24th, 2009
02:26:21 PM
Paul Blart: mall cop
Ummm there is an excuse for Up not being nominated....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
02:27:21 PM
....for Best Picture. Its called BEST ANIMATED FEATURE CATEGORY you dumb fucks. What Pixar's too good to be clumped in with lowly animated films? Fuck you. And fuck them and their white-bread Oscar baiting.
Stephen Colbert to host
by fearless_freep
Jun 24th, 2009
02:29:40 PM
... and present Best Documentary prize beside Michael Moore.
By the way, UP is a fucking masterpiece.
by AzulTool
Jun 24th, 2009
02:30:37 PM
Thank god I was wearing 3-D glasses during that opening montage. My girlfriend couldn't see me welling-up like a bitch.
New Category: Best Female Director
by Toonol
Jun 24th, 2009
02:31:06 PM
Why not? It's just being consistent with the acting awards.
There's also a category for foreign films
by ColonelFatheart
Jun 24th, 2009
02:31:40 PM
And movies that have been nominated in that category were nominated in best picture. A feature is a feature. DGDB, if you want to challenge the folks who say voice actors should be nominated for acting Oscars, go right ahead. But Up and Wall-E and Finding Nemo were damn good, even great, movies. Certainly better than much of the shit that makes the final five every year.
Unless they allow animated features a chance at the BP prize...
by Nasty In The Pasty
Jun 24th, 2009
02:32:39 PM
...then this is a horrible, HORRIBLE idea. EVERYTHING will get spread too thin. Most of the BP nominees will be lucky to get even three or four nominations in other catgories. The ceremony will run an additional hour just to allow for clips from the additional BP nominees (plus all the added schtick from the host and presenters...oy). Plus, it devalues the prize itself when you have more nominees. Like when they had five nominees in the Best Animated Feature category, you had deserving films like Spirited Away and Lilo & Stitch competing with crapola like Treasure Planet and Shark Tale. Fuck this!
10 is positively absurd
by Arteska
Jun 24th, 2009
02:33:29 PM
But marketing departments and ad firms must be salivating at all the work they will have locked in every year going forward now.
Up
by Toonol
Jun 24th, 2009
02:33:37 PM
I think it thoroughly deserves a Best Picture nomination, but I thought the whole point of the academy creating a 'best animated feature' category was so that they wouldn't ever need to compete with Disney/Pixar for best film.

Much like how the New York Times created a separate best-seller list for young adults, so they wouldn't have to suffer the humiliation of consistently reporting "Harry Potter" as the #1 bestseller.

Great news for My Bloody Valentine 3D!!!
by jcrewrower2
Jun 24th, 2009
02:34:43 PM
Worst movie I've seen in my life
my worryt
by RipperGiles
Jun 24th, 2009
02:35:36 PM
is that we're getting too close to those award ceremonies at the end of the school year. The ones where even the fat, smelly Mongoloid eating his nose candy gets a special certificate because he's good at reciting Pokemon characters or some such shit.

But I give Oscar credit: even though he's being vague about it, he is admitting he's whoring out so the Wal-Mart crowd will tune into the Oscars and think the dead celebrities reel is a trailer for the new Blue Collar Comedy Tour movie.
And the Oscar goes to: PAUL BLART: MALL COP!!!!!!!
by AzulTool
Jun 24th, 2009
02:36:11 PM

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
02:36:16 PM
Great idea.

They could lead from nomination day through to the ceremony with ten and then halfway through the show they announce the top three.

Would be some great drama, taking the three highest voted movies to the final award of the night.

DerLanghaarige, I agree with you 100%
by Continentalop
Jun 24th, 2009
02:37:03 PM
Stunt Coordinators and Stunt People are getting the shaft. Considering that action films make up the majority of Hollywood's revenue nowadays, I think an Oscar category to stunt people is long overdo. Plus, many times they are literally risking their lives for the film. When people say an actor or director made a brave choice, they are talking out of there ass.

Two people died who worked on The Dark Knight: one was a big star who ODed on drugs after he was done working on the movie, the other was a stunt man who died while working on the picture planning a car scene. Which one do you think the Academy recognized?

UP can and will be nominated
by CherryValance
Jun 24th, 2009
02:37:22 PM
Wall-E would have been nominated if this rule existed last year. Foreign films will have a better chance to get in too. Guys, this is good for the movies we like. It's our time now.

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
02:37:32 PM
Fuck I shoulda put a subject line, now it looks like im condoning academy award winner Paul Blart.
ColonelFatheart
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
02:37:51 PM
Haven't seen Up. Wall-E was mediocre, the last half was no different than any whiz bang cartoon. Finding Nemo was fucking horrid. Albert Brooks' annoying ass squealing "NEEEEEEEMOOOOOOOOOO!!! THATS MY SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!! NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOO!" ever 30 fucking seconds just isn't my thing. Sorry.

But as I said...this has nothing to do with my personal opion. I'm pointing out what you already know-- an animation category exists. For people to suggest Pixar is too good for the animation category is fucking nauseating. They have a formula that works. Big fucking wow.

kinda gimmicky
by RipleyGrady
Jun 24th, 2009
02:38:08 PM
This seems like another attempt at a ratings boost, but maybe it would not be such a bad idea. The amount of bitching that went on about the Dark knight not getting nominated was rampant on here. It's a good idea so that movies less forgettable than The Reader are nominated, but what the hell is going to be nominated this year? Star Trek? I mean, so far there has been nothing of outstanding quality. The nominees are going to be spread in the same way: 5 movies you'd expect might win, and 5 movies everyone can plainly see are there for the hell of it.
NEWS: NCAA Basketball tournament to be expanded to 128 teams
by Continentalop
Jun 24th, 2009
02:38:09 PM
Can THE EXPENDABLES be pushed up?
by CherryValance
Jun 24th, 2009
02:39:18 PM
We don't have a release date so I don't know when in 2010 they were shooting for but if they could get it out by the end of the year, you never know. ;)
Stuntwork does not exist in this dojo
by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
02:40:23 PM
Yeah, a Best Stuntwork oscar is WAY overdue,I know Spielberg and other have lobbied for a long time on this.. but clearly not hard enough.

My only worry is they left it too late, the great stuntman of the past is now being replaced by CG synthespians for the big action shot.

ANIMATED FEATURE category...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
02:40:52 PM
.....was created because people were crying animated films werent receiving the acclaim they should. People seem to forget Beauty and the Beast. So they gave them their category so animated films could start winning Oscars, and now people are whining it prevents them from being nominated for the big prize....so animated films should be eligible for both? Or only Pixar? I don't get it. Either way, it stinks like dead cunt. Fuck you.
Dickblood
by ColonelFatheart
Jun 24th, 2009
02:41:59 PM
I respect your opinions on those movies. Fair enough. But it's not just that Pixar deserves some special treatment, it's just that they're consistent (although I'm no fan of the Toy Story movies, and I hated Cars). What about Miyazaki? What about a DreamWorks animated move that comes along and knocks socks off? If there's a great animated film, or documentary for that matter, they should not be pigeonholed.
Who Cares what a bunch of industry insiders
by cylon_conspiracy
Jun 24th, 2009
02:42:48 PM

think about what is best movie or best screenplay or actor? Who gives a shit?

yeah it's fun to see all the 'stars' in one place, and sometimes the opening sequence is interesting, and I used to love the Oscars until I realized it was just a bunch of people who work in Hollywood giving their friends awards for making films that match their political views, and giving them a platform for making asinine political statements (when there's a republican in office that is) that reflect how insular their worlds really are.

Sure Ledger was the obvious favorite last year for the Joker for best supporting actor. But Penn was also the obvious favorite for lead actor because he played a homosexual. He was great in the movie but him winning was about as predictable as it gets.... which makes you wonder if he REALLY was the best actor, or if all the gay people in the academy wanted to celebrate another gay movie. Which weakens the whole significance of the award, and in a way undermines Penn's performance by patronizing it.

Made me think of the "don't go full retard" sequence in Tropic Thunder.

Letterman for Oscar host...
by StarskyandHushky
Jun 24th, 2009
02:43:40 PM
..is one of my favorite tv memories. I still find myself sometimes giggling when I'm thinking of 'Uma......Oprah......Uma....Op rah'or Jack Palance auditioning for Cabin Boy. 'Would you like to buy.... a monkey?' Can't believe he gor crucified for that. Best TV ever.
ColonelFatheart
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
02:44:56 PM
Thats fine. Then lobby to get rid of the Animated Feature category. You can't have both. You can't have the pitty Oscar just so an animated film gets an award every year, and still make it possible for the really really really good animated films to be eligible for Oscar. Thats fucking bullshit. Thats like saying Tilda Swinton is eligible for both Actor and Actress Oscars because she has neither cunt nor cock.

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
02:45:43 PM
Animated SHOULD have it's own category. It clearly is a different medium to live action, any fool can see that.

Any crew that wins a Best Animated Oscar is not going to feel like they got the booby prize. There's massive kudos for it. No need to change anything.

The formula that will quickly emerge...
by Liberty Valance
Jun 24th, 2009
02:47:59 PM
You'll get your 5 prestige pics like the old days, then add 1 animated flick (which is then a shoo-in for Best Animated), 2 critically lauded foreign films, an ultra-low profile independent gem and the best-reviewed action flick of the year (e.g. DK, Trek) to appease the fanboy crowd. Pretty shameless but also savvy from a ratings/box office persepective.
Cobra, RE=Stuntmen
by Continentalop
Jun 24th, 2009
02:48:37 PM
The culprits to stuntmen's lack of recognition is actors. I actually have respect for actors - it is a lot tougher job than most people realize - but having said that actors are also a narcissistic bunch and don't want people to realize they are not doing those incredible feats. And who makes up the biggest block of Academy voters? Actors and actresses.

The sad thing is so many actors get along great with there stunt double, but then back stab him when it comes to him getting recognized.

I did wonder about Swinton
by CherryValance
Jun 24th, 2009
02:49:20 PM
but Danny, animated movies always been eligible for both. So are docs and foreign films. They just don't get nominated because the Academy doesn't feel like it.
Cobra--Kai, Dickblood
by ColonelFatheart
Jun 24th, 2009
02:49:21 PM
Change the category to best animation, then. Animators absolutely should be recognized. But the movies should be eligible for the best picture award. When I go see Up or Kung Fu Panda, I don't say I'm going to the animated movies tonight. No, I'm going to the movies.
yeah, like we need that shitty show longer
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 24th, 2009
02:49:28 PM
How about just have an hour long show where they do the top awards? No one gives a shit about Best Lighting.
MTV has a better setup
by cylon_conspiracy
Jun 24th, 2009
02:50:15 PM
Best Kiss, best Villain, Best fight, etc.

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
02:50:23 PM
On her wedding night Tilda Swinton nervously asked her new husband 'if he'd ever seen The Crying Game?'
Maybe 3 nominees
by growltiger
Jun 24th, 2009
02:51:53 PM
Now that would step up the pressure and interest. There should be less fluff not more.
Liberty Valance
by ColonelFatheart
Jun 24th, 2009
02:52:16 PM
I think you're almost right. And it may also make for some interesting vote tallies as votes are split. But I have a feeling Hollywood's just going to reward more of its expensive "prestige" pictures like Cold Mountain or Revolutionary Road or Memoirs of a Geisha that didn't make the cut in previous years.
thank goodness
by krod
Jun 24th, 2009
02:52:37 PM
now my life is complete

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
02:53:14 PM
MTV Movie Awards make me feel dumber.
FUCK PIXAR AND FUCK THE DIAZ BROTHERS!!
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
02:54:51 PM
Dickblood are you ignoring...
by D.Vader
Jun 24th, 2009
02:55:27 PM
That foreign films still get nominated for Best Picture even though they have a separate category too?

And there are many people who were not happy with the Best Animated Feature category (when it was announced) for specifically the reasons we are arguing about- that it might deny the chance for an animated film to ever win Best Picture even though it might be more critically acclaimed than all the pictures nominated. This isn't a suddenly new thing.


by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
02:56:10 PM
Conti, I hadn't thought of that. I guess it might damage their 'mystique' a bit but surely they could stick it in as one of those cut-price Oscars that get awarded by Salma Hayek the night before.
I LIKE THIS IDEA.
by uberman
Jun 24th, 2009
02:56:15 PM
Therefore, it is a good idea. Check and mate.
The 1940s presentation was nothing like today
by growltiger
Jun 24th, 2009
02:56:21 PM
By all appearances, it was a big dinner party. I think the Golden Globe ceremonies echo the old Oscar presentations. Which I think were cool. Besides, with the opportunity of alcoholic libations, it would increase the possibility of hilarious acceptance speeches.

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
02:56:47 PM
...I bury those cock-a-roaches.
This Is The Most Assinine Thing I've Ever Heard
by Rebeck2
Jun 24th, 2009
02:59:28 PM
These guys are fucking idiots. Now winning a Best Picture nomination is not going to mean the same thing - they have effectively devalued it. Besides, it's hard enough finding FIVE fucking decent films these days! By saying that a comedy might slip in there now, or say a superhero flick, they are basically admitting that they have lowered the bar in order to get fucking ratings for the fucking TV show. That's all this is about. This is just so fucking stupid. I'm going to predict right now that it will either end up not happening or only happening this one year.
Steve Martin = best host in recent history...
by Somerichs
Jun 24th, 2009
03:01:15 PM
get him every year...
I'll tell you why this is happening now
by CherryValance
Jun 24th, 2009
03:01:30 PM
The members of the Academy don't like movies like we do. They have other stuff to do. So when they get that glut in their malibox of all those DVDs they don't plough through and watch them all. They get around to it eventually, probably only seeing some or most of them AFTER the Oscar ceremony. So that's why people often win the year after their great performaces. For example. Moulin Rouge and Nicole Kidman could/should have won Oscars in 2002. But instead Chicago won the Oscar the next year. They gave it to the next (undeserving) musical because they missed the musical that should have won, and Nicole ended up winning for wearing a nose in The Hours. They have a delayed reaction.

So this year. Watchmen and UP will get nominated in the place of The Dark Knight and Wall-E. I'm willing to bet that many members of the Academy who have now gone through all of last years movies now realize that The Dark Knight and Wall-E were the best two movies last year and that they were jackasses for not even nominating them. They probably saw some others they liked better than their 5 nominees since the ceremony too. So how to fix it? They reward movies like them in the future. Maybe Twilight will get nominated in the place of Let the Right One In. Makes no sense to normal people but if you look back you can see they've been doing that for years.

They're always playing catch up. This new rule might actually get them to watch more movies or at least let more movies that deserve to be recognized in, whether they win or not.

lockesbrokenleg
by Rebeck2
Jun 24th, 2009
03:01:50 PM
If you don't like the Oscars, then don't fucking watch them. How's that for a solution?
I hate the Academy Awards but what I even hate more
by Continentalop
Jun 24th, 2009
03:03:05 PM
Is when people say ""Who gives a fuck about category X? Just do the best awards."

Screenwriters, DPs, Editor, Sound Editor, Art Directors, etc. might not be big names, but I usually find that they are more often responsible for how much I like a film than the actors. Anything Paul Schrader wrote in the 70s - I am there. I think Dede Allen was a bigger reason I liked Bonnie and Clyde and Little Big Man than anything else; Walter Murch's sound editing on The Conversation and Apocalypse Now is essential to those films success; and don't get me started on Dick Sylbert's art designs, Roger Deakin's camera work or Edith Head's costume designs.

I don't give a shit if people in the middle of America give a shit about Best Editor or Cinematography and the Network thinks it is ratings poison, the Academy should honor those who made a contribution to the film. If regular people don't like it - tough shit. Learn more about the film businesss. Fucking Offensive Linemen aren't nearly as glamorous as Running Backs or QBs, but they still get a damn Super Bowl ring and a trip to the Pro Bowl like everyone else.

I don't think Foreign Films should be eligable either.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
03:03:07 PM
You want your own category? Stay the fuck out of Best Pic than.

But....there's been what-- 4 foreign films nominated for Best Pic in the past 80 years? Give it 80 more and we'll see if Pixar gets there.

eligible you illiterate cunt.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
03:04:08 PM
Salma Hayek has a couple of Golden Globes, eh?..EH?
by AzulTool
Jun 24th, 2009
03:04:17 PM
tits.
yeah
by CherryValance
Jun 24th, 2009
03:05:24 PM
I spelled a bunch of things wrong. I got too excited. sorry. :(
CherryValance -- You actually believe Watchman + Up...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
03:05:41 PM
...will be nominated for Best Picture?

Fuck. I pray you're in some post anal sex euphoric haze right now.

CherryValance -- I was calling myself illiterate.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
03:06:54 PM
I misspelled "eligable".

One thing I would never do is slam someone for typos. Thats just weak.


by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
03:08:55 PM
If Salma presented me with an Oscar my three minute acceptance speech would be spent groping her tits.

'I owe it all to these puppies here...god they're lovely..'

I think they will
by CherryValance
Jun 24th, 2009
03:10:18 PM
seriously. I even thought that was possible when there were only supposed to be 5 nominees. Now I think they will make it. For Watchmen, I think it just depends on when they get the DVD out. The earlier the better.

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
03:11:47 PM
Documentary's aren't eligible for Best Picture, neither should Best Foreign Language or Best Animated be.

Like DGDB said they already have their own category.

Even with 20 nominees Watchmen shouldn't be there
by ImpShockTroll
Jun 24th, 2009
03:12:36 PM
They should stay in their categories....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
03:13:15 PM
...or get their categories fucking cut, and THAT would justify 10 nominees. Maybe thats where its headed. In that case, Pixar will never have a fucking chance. The Academy members would sooner give it to a documentary no one saw.
So now instead of a movie possibly winning with as little as
by Big Jim
Jun 24th, 2009
03:14:01 PM
20% +1 votes, one could now be able to be declared Best Picture with 10% +1.

It would be nice if this means smaller films will have a better chance of being recognized but I'm a cynical bastard. All I see is the opportunity for more lobbying of the Academy members by the big studios for their big-budget box-office successes.

Besides, it seems every year there are one or two movies in the BP category that don't have much chance of winning. Now they are giving nominations to an additional 5 films that will have even less chance.

I hope they start doing
by Series7
Jun 24th, 2009
03:15:07 PM
Online votes for viewer favorite next as well.
No Danny, more like 8 films in 80 years
by D.Vader
Jun 24th, 2009
03:16:20 PM
I mean, duh.
The foreign film category is bullshit, anyway.
by ColonelFatheart
Jun 24th, 2009
03:18:11 PM
Sure, let's get rid of it. The eligibility rules for nominating are fucking stupid. One entry per country? Give me a break.
"Maybe Twilight will get nominated in the place of Let the Right
by Big Jim
Jun 24th, 2009
03:20:55 PM
I bet the new Twilight movie will be nominated for Best Picture. Not because of LTROI but because it will get all those tweens who made Twilight the #1 movie at the MTV movie awards to watch the Oscars. That's why they are doing this. To give nominations to popular movies that have no chance of otherwise being nominated, let alone winning, so that their fans will watch.
If they do online votes, Yao Ming will win best pic every year.
by AzulTool
Jun 24th, 2009
03:21:03 PM
10 is another arbitrary number...
by latrodectus
Jun 24th, 2009
03:21:48 PM
...just like 5. What's the point? Some years there will be more than 10 great films. Some years - most years - there will be fewer than 5. Here's a thought: why not decide how many Best Picture nominees there'll be in a given year based on how many worthy films there are in that given year. The Academy is taking it upon itself to make these qualitative decisions anyway. Then they box themselves in by saying there can only be five. Well, now they're saying there HAVE to be ten and most years that will be a stretch and very questionable films are going to be in the running each and every year. C'mon, Academy. You call the shots here. If there are 13 great films then so be it -- have 13 Best Picture nominees. If (and I believe this is WAY more likely) there are only 7 or 6 or 3 in a given year. Well -- those are your nominees. Face it, Academy, the years in which there have been 10 GREAT English-language films -- well, I'm afraid they have been (and will continue to be) few and far between.
and it makes them feel like "their movie"
by Big Jim
Jun 24th, 2009
03:22:17 PM
was actually good; that it is somehow worthy of their praise and devotion. It's a sad state of affairs.
Wow, what a match!
by growltiger
Jun 24th, 2009
03:22:58 PM
USA v Spain just wrapped and it is historic!
Michael Bay or Optimus Prime should host
by Kenshiro_187
Jun 24th, 2009
03:23:26 PM
Think about it, wouldn't that be something for 3 hours. I wouldn't be surprised if Chicken Little hosted one year in the not too distant future.
I completely agree with Rebeck2 - this is stupid
by kevred
Jun 24th, 2009
03:25:06 PM
Big Jim also has a great point. This move both cheapens the accomplishment of being nominated and lowers the bar for winning. What's next? Letting viewers call in and vote on their cell phones, and revealing the winner on the next night's broadcast?
Up! highest rated feature this year, so
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
03:26:14 PM
Is it anywhere near the best film you've seen this year?

Trick question: It probably is, since there have been so few quality films.

The idea that Up! or Ratatouille or Wall-E are great films is debatable.

They're very well made, satisfying adventure stories for children.

I can't believe DICKBLOOD even has to argue this point with you people.

Then again, the Academy doesn't honor great pictures. It honors whatever it honors.

So, go ahead - nominate Dawson's Trek to fill that last spot. Nominate Avatar twice, for all I give a shit.

But you all realize that makes Jackman's homocentric dance number twice as long, right?

growltiger, agreed--too bad about that late red card
by kevred
Jun 24th, 2009
03:29:16 PM
That's a kind of crummy twist--hate to see them go into the final without everyone on board. maybe it will motivate them somehow. I really didn't think they would do it, certainly not scoring more than once, so this is a great result.
Jugdish, only douche talkbackers don't like Dark Knight
by MattmanReturns
Jun 24th, 2009
03:33:41 PM
There's very few people in the real world who didn't like it.
I like the move. Why the fuck not?
by JuanSanchez
Jun 24th, 2009
03:34:40 PM
Mattman has polled everyone in the real world.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
03:35:18 PM
So he knows.

You can't argue science.

And in ten years, are people gonna remember Slumdog?
by MattmanReturns
Jun 24th, 2009
03:35:43 PM
Nope. But they'll remember Dark Knight. It's the old "A Beautiful Mind" vs. "Fellowship of the Ring" argument, and it holds true.
Sound like a great idea! Until you realize...
by OBSD
Jun 24th, 2009
03:36:02 PM
it's still the fucking Academy picking the movies! The sme people that chose Forest Gump over Pulp Fiction. The same people that snubbed Bill Murray for best actor in Rushmore, and yes, the same people that picked Crash as Best Picture over...well, anything else. They're still not going to pick the best movie of the year to even be nominated because it's not milquetoast enough. Its going to be another 5 bloated melodramas and/or period pieces. You can have an extra 25 nominations and they'll still gloss over amazing films like Let The Right One In. Fuck the Academy.
Subtitles_Off
by MattmanReturns
Jun 24th, 2009
03:37:08 PM
It's called boxofficemojo.com which features exit polls and box office statistics.
JuanSanchez
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
03:37:10 PM
Besides all the reasons stated eloquently above,

HUGH JACKMAN...GAY DANCING...TWICE AS LONG

boxofficemojo.com = everyone
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
03:38:34 PM
Like I said. Science. You can't argue it.
Can we all agree that SLUMDOG is crap?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
03:40:23 PM
I'm pretty sure the numbers for that one on boxofficemojo.com are fairly positive, too.

Damn science!

I won't say Slumdog is crap..
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
03:41:34 PM
...I will say Boyle should have instead won Picture and Director for Millions, a far superior film.
It's an old argument.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
03:41:56 PM
It holds its own genitalia.
MattmanReturns only polls women.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
03:42:16 PM
And its not actually him doing the polling....its the head of his dick.
I quite enjoyed Hugh's gay dancing.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
03:43:46 PM
If you got nervous your wife would spot your rising semi, thats your fucking problem.
Think Transformers 2 will make the list now?
by MJohnson
Jun 24th, 2009
03:43:59 PM
God knows Michael Bay deserves one of those little statues. Sarcasm. Sarcasm, dammit.
Finally Megan Fox can get his Best Supporting Actor Oscar.
by Stuntcock Mike
Jun 24th, 2009
03:44:47 PM
Sausage and Bean award.
I'll say Slumdog is crap
by CherryValance
Jun 24th, 2009
03:45:28 PM
Public Enemies is gonna get nommed for sure. Praise Bale.
YES! WATER IT DOWN! MAKE IT SUCK MORE!!
by HaterofCrap
Jun 24th, 2009
03:45:32 PM
lets worry about the feelings of the 5 other crappy nominees.
DICKBLOOD once more brings truth.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
03:46:50 PM
The part about MILLIONS. That movie makes Pixarians bow and weep.

And I concur on stunt people deserving award recognition. I mean, running away from computer generated explosions? Even Shia can do that. But, actual stunt work? That stuff deserves a category.

I draw the line at body doubling, though. Fuck those ponces.

CherryValance -- the best thing you've said all month.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
03:47:05 PM
Amen, OBSD
by gavdiggity
Jun 24th, 2009
03:48:25 PM
that's all.
Subtitles_Off
by MattmanReturns
Jun 24th, 2009
03:48:28 PM
I said "few people" didn't like it, I didn't say everyone liked it, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. By few people, I mean relatively few in contrast with the majority that liked the film. If you didn't like it, that's fine, but don't pretend that it's not a highly regarded film, because it is. Hell, I'm one of the freaks that didn't like Spider-Man, but I can concede that most people did. But if I go around telling people it's a piece of shit and they're stupid for liking it, I am nothing more than a douche troll.
I hope Megan Fox's stunt double....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
03:48:40 PM
Alexis Arquette wins it for Trans-America 2.
I doubt there will be 10 movies even worth seeing this year
by blackmantis
Jun 24th, 2009
03:48:43 PM
probably already suggested
by RipperGiles
Jun 24th, 2009
03:49:08 PM
but im too lazy to read through all this: Let an animated film go for best animated film OR for best picture. But not both. I think a foreign film has to submit for either best foreign or best picture.

The hubbub around this kind of thing started years ago when Desperate Housewives went in as a comedy instead of a drama and everyone bitched that, at 60 minutes, it was a drama, and vice versa when "Boston Legal" entered for drama that year.

But letting Up go for best ani and best picture just because it's good? FORGET IT! And while we're at it, Transformers should go for best animated too. Why not? There's wall-to-wall CGI characters in there, just like Up, Kung Fu Panda or any of the 93274 CGI penguin movies that came out making me want to hire one of David Carradine's Lady Boy friends to tie me up.
It's official...the Oscars have less credibility than the Golden
by 9000rpm
Jun 24th, 2009
03:51:03 PM
Enough slumming. After last year's truly putrid nominees (except Frost/Nixon) and the down on the knees blowjob to Bollywood for Slumdog Shit Film, there's no longer any question, the Oscars are as meaningful as MTV's Best Onscreen Kiss award. From now on, if a film's nominated, I skip it (except for Avatar, which will of course be the best film of the year AND be nominated AND win every category it's nominated in). All foreigners who even attempt to make movies should be ass raped (except James Cameron, of course, who WILL be nominated for Best Director next year, who will WIN Best Director next year, and who will win every film honor that can be bestowed on a living OR dead human being).
Best Doc, Animated and Foreign Film.
by Continentalop
Jun 24th, 2009
03:52:02 PM
Documentaries are actually eligible for Best Film - when Hoop Dreams came out there was a lot of talk that it would be nominated.

As for should they (and Animated an Foreign Film) being eligible for Best Film, I have no problem with that. The reason have their own categories to begin with is so they can be recognized for the unique qualities they possess as an art form - you can't say that a documentary doesn't have unique features from most fiction films, same with animated films. Plus, like foreign films, they all are usually ignored and passed over by the Academy when it comes to best picture nominations. The reason probably being that the Academy is made up of mostly Americans and actors: American people aren't very likely to not favor an non-American film, or at least an English language film, and actors are not going to give a nomination to a film that either has none-actors (documentaries) or only uses actors' voices (animated).

And I have no problem with them being eligible for best picture and still have their own categories. Not all films are documentaries, animated or in a foreign language, but all documentaries, animated films and foreign films are still films. The best player in baseball isn't necessarily a pitcher, but the best pitcher can be the best player, hence why we have MVP and Cy Young awards. Honoring them in one category shouldn't exclude them from another.

Danny's got me there
by MattmanReturns
Jun 24th, 2009
03:52:04 PM
9 out of 10 vaginas loved Dark Knight.
But you did call anyone who didn't like it a douche.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
03:52:10 PM
I got that part right, didn't I?
And Sunshine is my favorite Boyle film
by MattmanReturns
Jun 24th, 2009
03:53:47 PM
Most underrated sci-fi film ever.
Do people really not think there were ten good movies last year?
by mraig
Jun 24th, 2009
03:55:32 PM
1. Synecdoche New York 2. Wall E 3. Rachel Getting Married 4. Gran Torino 5. Revolutionary Road 6. The Wrestler 7. The Reader 8. Frost/Nixon 9. Milk 10. Slumdog Millionaire

If you disagree with any of those, feel free to substitute Dark Knight. See? And I didn't even have to use Benjamin Button.

Subtitles_Off
by Quin the Eskimo
Jun 24th, 2009
03:56:19 PM
Slumdog is crap? C'mon.
BTW, Mattman
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
03:56:28 PM
You can't possibly defend "very few" unless you've gathered the opinion of "everyone." Or even "most" without qualifications.

That's my point.

Sorry for the offense, though. DICKBLOOD says you have an admirable libido, and DICKBLOOD always brings the truth.

and they should pick five from the first half of the year
by slappy jones
Jun 24th, 2009
03:56:37 PM
and five from the second half so the great films that are released early and forgotten about awards season get a shot
Yes....cunts do hiss for Christian Bale.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
03:57:13 PM
As for this year...
by mraig
Jun 24th, 2009
03:57:59 PM
Of course there hasn't been anything really great yet. The studios hold back the best stuff on purpose and release it in December so it will still be fresh in Oscar voters' minds. Summer is for popcorn movies, one or two of which are maybe good enough to get an Oscar nod (Up this year for sure).
Subtitles
by MattmanReturns
Jun 24th, 2009
03:58:01 PM
I got a little overzealous attacking the "This is for all you Douche Bag Dark Knight Fans" comment. Not all Dark Knight haters are douches, it's just the ones that attack people who like the film who are (which you often find on these talkbacks). So, apologies to anyone who didn't like Dark Knight but isn't actually a douche.
Yes, Quin.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
03:58:11 PM
In my opinion, SLUMDOG was manipulative, preposterous crap.

Somebody needs to Perez Hilton Lasseter.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
04:00:07 PM
Is it hiss or queef?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:01:01 PM
Because that makes a difference.

Saw EQUILIBRIUM the other day.

As bad as the one where The Bale fights dragons. Only slightly worse than the one where The Bale gives "Iggy Pop" a blow job.

ScarJo wins best actress to appear in a porn scene with me
by AzulTool
Jun 24th, 2009
04:01:36 PM
UGGGHHH, DROPING LOADS ON RYAN REYNOLDS' WIFE!!!
1 out of 10 vaginas love Equilibrium
by MattmanReturns
Jun 24th, 2009
04:03:04 PM
The other 9 didn't know what is was. I liked it though. Reign of Fire was shit. They had dragons, they had tanks, and they had Christian Bale, and they somehow fucked that up?
Subtittles off - Same with...
by Quin the Eskimo
Jun 24th, 2009
04:04:03 PM
Snow White, The Sound of Music, On the Waterfront, How Green Was My Valley. You could pretty much say that about any movie, you gotta do better then that. And Slumdog was hands down better then Frost/Nixon, who taught us that Nixon was not a nice man. Who new?
Perez Hilton Lasseter?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:04:05 PM
What does that even mean?

I am so douchely uncool.

VELVET FUCKING GOLDMINE.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
04:04:38 PM
God Damn does that thing make you swell.

PURE HUMAN DRAMA.

The cinema of life.

There is no other truth.

Speaking of boxofficemojo: TF2 16 mil last night
by AzulTool
Jun 24th, 2009
04:05:21 PM
Whoopdy fuckin doo
Perez Hilton (BITCH PUNCH)
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
04:05:57 PM
See here:

http://tinyurl.com/newcky

knew
by Quin the Eskimo
Jun 24th, 2009
04:06:07 PM
shit
It's like expanding March Madness
by tatoosh
Jun 24th, 2009
04:06:08 PM
The academy need only to look at the arguement against expanding the NCAA March Madness tournament from 64 teams to 128. Stupid idea. What's the point? Nobody wants it except the 2nd tier players in the game who won't win anyway. It will just end up watering down the Oscar trademark to the point where nobody pays any attention. Elastigirl: Everybody is special! Dash: Which is another way of saying nobody is.
ON THE WATERFRONT was not preposterous.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:07:56 PM
SLUMDOG was better than SOUND OF MUSIC. That make you happy?

Besides, I don't "have to" anything, any more than you "have to" spell "knew" correctly.

What's next the oscar for BEST VIDEO GAME award??
by ImpShockTroll
Jun 24th, 2009
04:08:29 PM
The Oscars are just trying to cling to relavency in the ever evolving world of mixed media/entertainment/arts/digit al/graphical/performance arts! Shit I am a visionary from the 22nd century!!!
"We'll take the whole shebang
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:11:06 PM
All or nothing, anything

Ecstasy's the birthright of our gang

We'll take the whole shebang

Free your heart of guilt and shame

Come and claim what's yours

The whole shebang"

They're crazy if they think this will boost ratings....
by Dasher
Jun 24th, 2009
04:13:27 PM
Because that would require sitting through the 3 1/2 or 4-hour telecast and staying awake until the very end to find out who wins Best Picture. If little kids are excited that Star Trek or Up get nominated for BP, they ain't seeing the results on TV, they're hearing about it the next morning at breakfast.
Mattman
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:14:22 PM
This vagina thing should catch on, man.

A lot more reliable than boxofficemojo.

Subtitles_Off
by Quin the Eskimo
Jun 24th, 2009
04:16:21 PM
But it was manipulative. I think you must be under 21, with a lot to learn. OUT!
9 out of 10 vaginas loved Titanic
by MattmanReturns
Jun 24th, 2009
04:17:26 PM
The 10th turned out to be a man. Not my finest hour. (I guess it was a warning sign).
DGDB
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:19:30 PM
That link was ridiculously gay.

I now know more than I ever did before about Perez Hilton and will.i.am.

Yet I am still douchely uncool.

Quin.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:20:20 PM
Shows how little you know when you think. See you.
I wonder what Chastity Bono's vagina thought
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:21:12 PM
of The Dark Knight?

Chastity's Beastly Cunt....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
04:25:41 PM
Probably looks a little something like this...... Click to enlarge.

http://tinyurl.com/lfmwrh

No, DGDB
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:26:48 PM
You got me once.

Fool me twice, um, you should'nt oughta fool me. Hehe.

The problem with this...
by fassbinder79
Jun 24th, 2009
04:29:13 PM
..is it weakens the weight of the films that get nominated. I'm all for more films getting nominated...But I'm really looking for the academy to acknowledge BETTER films not MORE.
Damn it. I went to DGDB's link
by Continentalop
Jun 24th, 2009
04:31:33 PM
And boy do I regret it. Ughh. Curiosity got the better of me.
Look for the show to be over at 3 in the morning!
by HollywoodHellraiser
Jun 24th, 2009
04:31:45 PM
Who gives a fuck!
my cock is long!
by THE KNIGHT
Jun 24th, 2009
04:32:40 PM
...
Why do they have to have a given number any year?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:33:44 PM
When they can't find five, three will do. If they can find seven, nominate seven.

Arbitrary numbers, arbitrary gender distinctions, arbitrary arbitrariness.

And, what does this do to that whole "My picture's a Best Picture nominee, but I, as Director, can't get no love?" bullshit argument you hear every year?


by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
04:33:47 PM
Hmm, I don't want to see a film win Best Documentary and also win Best Film.

That's double dipping. It's like some positive discrimination move where the poor little Docu / Animated / Foreign Language 'minority' film gets over represented by having two categories to take home gold.

Similar debate with that Paralympic athlete with 'magic legs' who took home the 100m gold and now wants to enter the regular olympics so he can take that 100m gold too. Greedy legless bastard.

Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer
by Hercules
Jun 24th, 2009
04:34:39 PM
Letterman hosted in 1995
See, Continentaltop?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:34:43 PM
Sometimes I DO know what I'm talking about.
Goodnight People. Long live Will.i.Am's FIST!
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
04:36:11 PM
SIX maybe, but 10 is too much
by zillabeast
Jun 24th, 2009
04:36:32 PM
Takes some of the presitige out of the nomination (if you even want to call it that.) I am not a fan of this one bit.
Cobra_Kai
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:37:12 PM
An argument could be made very easily that both "Encounters At the End of the World" and "Man On Wire" are better films than "Slumdog Millionaire."
That's retarded.
by MaxTheSilent
Jun 24th, 2009
04:38:51 PM
THE KNIGHT
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:39:56 PM
Congrats. Thanks for playing. They miss you over at any of the six or seven TRANSFORMER threads.
Max, could you be a little more specific?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:40:28 PM
Finally admit the mistake of changin WATCHMEN ending?
by ZombieHeathLedger
Jun 24th, 2009
04:41:20 PM
I mean, WATCHMEN was panned by half of the critics, not to the lengths of TRANSFORMERS 2, but WATCHMEN was not well received universally by all critics, let's admit it got at least "mixed reviews." The word of mouth by non-geeks was that it was "ponderous" to say the least. It underperformed at the box office. There are those speculating that at even with ten Oscar nominees, WATCHMEN shouldn't be included. So can we now admit that they should've went with the tried and time tested, crazy awesome ending of the comic? It couldn't have done any worse than what they went with instead. Plus, all the people who loved CLOVERFIELD would've paid to go see WATCHMEN just for the new monster, the giant squid, and that would've meant higher grosses just right there. We would still be talking about the WATCHMEN squid today in talkbacks, but no one, NO ONE, ever talks about the generic big, blue, "Heroes" explosion ending. No one.
10 pic noms, only 5 director noms?
by styles99
Jun 24th, 2009
04:41:35 PM
By doing this, it's going to be pretty easy to decipher the 5 tag along nominees as the directors for those films will not be nominated since almost every year the director/picture noms are almost identical.
How about NOT having a static number?
by Cletus Van Damme
Jun 24th, 2009
04:42:53 PM
Maybe, I don't know...pick those who DESERVE it rather than saying "Well, we've got Nicholson, DeNiro, and Pacino...we need 7 more guys. C'mon, dammit, BRAINSTORM!"

If there's a good year, by all means nominate 10, or 20 if they deserve the honor. If it's a typical year, then 5 nominees is usually 2 too many.

20 nomination slots
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:44:15 PM
And WATCHMEN wouldn't get nominated for any Oscar other than tech-bait.

Guaranfuckingteed to be up for a Razzie or two, or half dozen, though.


by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
04:46:27 PM
You're clearly right, Subtitles, but an Oscar is an Oscar.

The 'worth' of the 'category' shouldn't be an issue. Like a gold medal at the olympics. It's still the pinnacle of achievement.

If you were the creator of MAN ON WIRE wouldn't you be proud to win the Best Documentary - not bitter that you weren't eligible to 'also' enter another category and potentially win that too? (while also depriving the 'regular' movies a chance to take home a trophy).

I also want to perpetually nominate....
by Cletus Van Damme
Jun 24th, 2009
04:47:52 PM
...Elisha Cuthbert

...to touch my penis.

They can add 15 movies, and have Jesus Christ host it.
by AzulTool
Jun 24th, 2009
04:48:43 PM
And it will still decline in ratings because less and less people care about this bloated bullshit every year.
The Prestige Factor will be gone
by styles99
Jun 24th, 2009
04:48:58 PM
With 10 nominees, this will also tarnish the so-called 'prestige' of being awarded a Best Picture nom. As if it wasn't already a problem, this will give many marginal movies the 'Academy Award nominee' credit. It starts to put it in the realm of the People's Choice Awards or something...

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
04:50:26 PM
My point is, if MAN ON WIRE won Best Picture then we would never have known what the best non-documentary movie of last year was.
Cobra
by Continentalop
Jun 24th, 2009
04:50:48 PM
Yeah, but how many other categories do Docs, Animated and Foreign Film's legitimately compete it. It's not like you are going to get 4 Best actor nods in an animated or documentary, or best cinematography, art direction, costumes or makeup in an animated film or best Special FX, Sound and Sound FX in a documentary. So them winning best documentary and best picture would be like Forest Gump winning best actor and best picture, or even more aptly s special FX movie winning best FX and best picture.

If I were the creator
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:51:49 PM
of a great documentary, yet my film wasn't eligible for Best Picture, and I wasn't eligible for Best Director, and some inferior piece of crap won in either category, yeah, I'd be pissed. And, if all those things were true, I'd be right.

It's best Picture, and the Best Picture could be a doc, a cartoon, something with sub-titles or "regular." If it's the "pinnacle" of that year, why would you want categorize it?

Oh, it's that pinnacle, but not this pinnacle.

My pinnacle, btw, is eight inches, flaccid.

Wow, I never understood
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
04:54:40 PM
Best Picture to stand for Best Non-Documentary, Non-Foreign Picture With Actual Persons Acting In It.

I thought it was just plain old Best.

Of course, as Prossor points out, it isn't that either.

this is a great idea
by johnnysunshine
Jun 24th, 2009
05:01:33 PM
But if we end up with a list of 10 small semi-independent period dramas I'm gonna cry

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
05:03:16 PM
"Best Picture to stand for Best Non-Documentary, Non-Foreign Picture With Actual Persons Acting In It." lol

Yes! That's exactly what it should stand for, perhaps it needs to be a bit catchier though. Best Dramatic Picture maybe?

Obviously Best Docu is never going to be eligible for Acting categories but all others - why not? I'm not suggesting that they shouldn't be able to recieve noms for Editing, Directing, Sound etc. The editing in Docu's is often (to my eyes at least) superior to regular feature films.

Letterman....
by Mathom
Jun 24th, 2009
05:05:59 PM
Returning as host would be ideal. Its a good year for him.
In defense of 1941's How Green Was My Valley
by Continentalop
Jun 24th, 2009
05:09:22 PM
It was directed by John Ford, who was coming off of an incredible string of movies (supposedly caused by him being in an affair with Katherine Hepburn) starting in 1939: Stagecoach, Young Mr. Lincoln, Drums Along the Mohawk, Grapes of Wrath, The Long Voyage Home, Tobacco Road and then, finally, How Green Was My Valley. In fact, Orson Welles himself has said he can think of no director who produced that many good movies in such a short span. So I can see how the Academy would be bias towards his work.

Plus, the other nominees that here for Best Picture included Citizen Kane, The Little Foxes, Sgt. York, Suspicion and The Maltese Falcon. So I can understand the Academy, facing so many great movies that year, making the wrong decision in hindsight.

The English Patient over Fargo, however, is still a fucking travesty.

Now we can nominate everyone!
by Falafalguy
Jun 24th, 2009
05:10:27 PM
And EVERY film can be an "Acadamy Award Nominated Film!" Hooray! Coming this summer to DVD, the Acadamy Award Nominated "G-Force."
Did somebody suggest Star Trek?
by kwisatzhaderach
Jun 24th, 2009
05:12:37 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaahhahaa

Oh my sides.

This is cool though, hopefully The Hurt Locker will ensure a nomination.


by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
05:16:39 PM
The easiest way to improve the Academy Awards is to ban thank you's.

Reading two dozen names out like a fucking grocery list is not good viewing.

'I want to thank every one who worked on this movie with me'... There, everyone's been thanked, no one left out. How fucking hard to say is that.

Cobra
by Continentalop
Jun 24th, 2009
05:17:00 PM
Ok, maybe a Doc can get nominated for other categories, but it isn't very likely. Which Doc is going to have as good as cinematography as Fargo or There Will Be Blood? Very few. And what type of Sound design or FX will be in a documentary? Or what about Art Direction, Make-Up and Costumes? Hell, 80% of all available awards are gone. Same thing with animated.

To me the Best Documentary Award goes to the film that shows the best qualities of a documentary - not necessarily the best qualities of a film. Same thing with Animation, you are honoring the art of animation not necessarily the best film that is also animated.

Of course, being the lazy people they are, they usually associate one thing for the other. Just like how whenever a picture whens best picture it also seems to rack up the majority of awards it was nominated in (maybe it was best picture not because it had the best editing, cinematography, art direction, etc, but because it had the second or third best in those categories and it added up in the end as making it the best. To much thinking for that one? Ok, we'll just give it all the awards).

just give 'em to everyone
by madCanada
Jun 24th, 2009
05:19:46 PM
Yup. Desperate gimmick for hard times. Still, now maybe "Basterds" might get a nom. Or "Year One". Ha.

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
05:21:26 PM
You can read Harry's review of HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY where he reminisces for four pages about spending long summers in a particularly green valley - giving him a unique insight into the said movie.
Cobra, you don't really get it.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
05:22:08 PM
The Oscars are not for television.

They're not for The Fans.

They're for the film-makers. It's a fricking ceremony for them to congratulate themselves on their work.

The more people say the Oscars need to be more viewer-friendly, the more pointless they will become.

The fuckers who win need all the time they can have to thank everyone they want to. That's the whole point of winning an award.

Otherwise, awards are just bookends.

Now, if you don't get your daily dose of entertainment buzz from the Oscars telecast, that's cool. I'd say you really aren't supposed to.

You're not a film-maker.

Go watch them on E! or something.


by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
05:22:25 PM
HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY? A trick question. The fucker was in b&w.

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
05:26:41 PM
Subtitles, yes they're an industry event - but they're also a showpiece. Come on dude, millions around the world tune in, you know that. Of course they need to be viewer friendly.
Best Picture should mean BEST PICTURE
by RobertBaron
Jun 24th, 2009
05:27:44 PM
Regardless of whether it's a doc, an animated film or a foreign (language) film. I don't see how "double dipping" is a bad thing. A film can't be the best Animated Film AND the Best Picture at the same time?
Tedious
by kafka07
Jun 24th, 2009
05:28:07 PM
So yeah try to boost ratings by making it longer and more boring. Great job.
Instead of thanking everyone, why doesn't someone
by Continentalop
Jun 24th, 2009
05:29:57 PM
Read the names of people he doesn't want to thank? Hell, if I ever won one I would pull out my "Fuck You" list.

Yeah, this is to Jenny, my ex-girlfriend who cheated on me and then left me for a guitarist in a "rock band" and told me when she left that I would amount to nothing. Well guess what bitch, I've got an oscar and tonight I am going to be doing lines off of Anne Hathaway's ass while Natalie Portman blows me in the back of a limo, while you will be at home watching your "rockstar" boyfriend play guitar hero and drink beer with his buddies. I wouldn't be here without you!"

As long as it's got Hugh Jackman singin' and dancin'
by ZombieHeathLedger
Jun 24th, 2009
05:30:31 PM
count me in! New York! New York! It's a helluva towwwwnn!
There is no HOW IS MY GREEN VALLEY in this dojo
by Continentalop
Jun 24th, 2009
05:32:32 PM
Both of your post made me laugh Cobra. Especially the idea of Harry's review.

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
05:33:19 PM
Et tu RobertBaron? I feel like the dude in 12 ANGRY MEN.

My simple point remains that if a documentary won Best Picture we would be denied the knowledge of what the best 'regular' movie that year was.

This seems a little unfair to me.

Nope, I don't concede.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
05:34:04 PM
The Oscars could be booted off broadcast television, and they'd still go on.

Sure, they're a showpiece. For designer gowns! C'mon, man - in this day and time when entertainment is treated daily as news and everything about every picture has been said before it is even released, "Oscars as Showcase" is the silliest pronouncement one can make.

Millions tune in. Yep. And if millions don't like it, millions can tune out.

You cannot make an awards ceremony into compelling television by taking out the acceptance speeches.

Take out the montages and the jazz hands, because that's the truly stupid shit. Announce the nominees, show many extended clips, let the winners speechify, and then go the fuck away.

Evangelion217 is a poser
by evangelion80
Jun 24th, 2009
05:36:03 PM
nuff said
Oscar ratings
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
05:37:35 PM
are the concern of capitalist bastards with advertisements to force down your throat.

Fuck those guys, too.

Ratings mean shit to me.

evangelion79 owes me money
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
05:38:17 PM
just nominate everyone ...
by madCanada
Jun 24th, 2009
05:41:17 PM
The Oscars became transparent agent-driven bullsh*t from the 1990s on. Come on. Rain Man? Forrest Gump? Dances With Wolves? Silence of the Lambs? Shakespeare in Love? Titanic? ETC ... Hello! These are some serious bullsh*t films. Who cares how many films are nominated? It's just a night for the industry to wag its dick around.
Cobra
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
05:42:21 PM
Sorry if you thought I was going all "old-guy-loopy-angry-drunk" on you there.

I'm really, really not that concerned about the Oscars one way or another. It's moot. Very few films that I consider to be the greatest ever got a Best Picture Award.

I just hate the zippy modern pacing of everything. I think it's all a lot of sound and fury signifying squat.

I miss streakers and political ramblings.

That stuff was the shit!


by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
05:42:44 PM
Hehe. They had 'gown cam' or something like that at last year's red carpet gliding up the actressess bods.

They are a showcase, not just for the industry but for the nominees. I don't think they'll ever go back to being held behind closed doors.

Cobra kai- the best picture category should be renamed then
by RobertBaron
Jun 24th, 2009
05:44:49 PM
to The Best Live Action Feature That Used Pre-Existing Mostly English Words To Tell Its Story.

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 24th, 2009
05:45:00 PM
Subtitles, yeah it is moot.

Damn! Moot's a cool word. I'm gonna use that more...

Laters potatoes everybody.

Will there be 10 films that deserve the honor?
by Darkman
Jun 24th, 2009
05:50:02 PM
Fuck, they should have 10 Best Score nominees like they did in the mid-90s (Dramatic & Musical/Comedy). You know I'm right.

And Patton Oswalt hosting = one of the best Oscar ceremonies ever.
Sure, Robert!
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 24th, 2009
05:50:58 PM
If we work on this, we can make a really great word from the initials.

BLAFTITTIES

Best Live Action Film That Is Totally Terrific In Effects and Speech

I said, we'd have to work on it.

oscar already uses IRV
by swanstep
Jun 24th, 2009
05:52:52 PM
See the WSJ's article on this: http://tiny.cc/qaAU6 Also, you can't solve the problem of 'they didn't nominate a worthy film!' by lengthening the slate of nominees: by going to n nominees you're drawing the line for nomination at 1/n level of support. There's almost always going to be a filn just on the other side of that line, i.e., with 1/(n+1) support. The alleged injustice next year won't be that TDK didn't get nom'd when,say, The Reader did, it'll be that Iron Man didn't when The Visitor or Frozen River or in Bruges did.
Studios
by NudeandAroused
Jun 24th, 2009
05:53:46 PM
This is all about money that's all. Studios want to promote a movie as being "nominated for Best Picture." That brings more than a little coin by the time the DVD is out.
should do 5 drama and 5 comedy
by j2talk
Jun 24th, 2009
05:57:36 PM
Oscars = Field Day
by chaplinatemyshoe
Jun 24th, 2009
06:06:10 PM
EVERYONE'S A WINNER!
Zed have you heard his Schindler's List joke?
by ZombieHeathLedger
Jun 24th, 2009
06:08:33 PM
It goes "I mistakenly rented Schindler's List as a porno, oh, well, at least it had a shower scene." C'mon that takes huevos grande.
If ABC was smart, they'd broadcast the AVN's instead.
by AzulTool
Jun 24th, 2009
06:14:06 PM
Best Anal DP starlett: Julia Roberts.
i can think of 10 right now...
by gamus
Jun 24th, 2009
06:20:05 PM
If you think about the Golden Globes already do 10 nominations with their comedy and drama best pictures so it's not that much of a stretch...and I think they chose what will be one of the best years in film this decade (as opposed to the worst which was last year). I can already pick 10 worthy contenders: 1. The Road (John Hillcoat) 2. Nine (Rob Marshall) 3. Public Enemies (Michael Mann) 4. A Serious Man (Coens) 5. Tree of Life (Terrence Malick) 6. The Informant (Soderbergh) 7. Shutter Island (Scorsese) 8. Avatar (James Cameron) 9. Invictus (Clint Eastwood) 10. That unknown movie that pops up from nowhere and is movie gold. The only disadvantage is that it might squeeze out other films in the remaining categories due to a need to give each best picture nom their token nomination nods
They don't need MORE....
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
Jun 24th, 2009
06:26:16 PM
...when they have LESS great films.

Seriously...the last few years have been filled with BAD films and actors that were nominated for purely POLITICAL or SOCIAL reasons. The best films and actors are often forgotten or neglected.

The Oscars have long outlived their usefulness. We need to see it for what it is: An attempt by the movie industry to MAKE MONEY from advertising their films (for free), congratulate one another for a job well done (*cough cough) and allow the "winners" to share their political views (as if their films weren't "preachy" enough).
How many more films like...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
Jun 24th, 2009
06:32:46 PM
LOST IN TRANSLATION, MILK, JUNO, GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK, SIDEWAYS, ERIN BROCKOVICH, CHOCOLAT, AS GOOD AS IT GETS, BABE, BUGSY and GHOST need to get nominated for BEST PICTURE?!? Sure, they are good movies (most of them). But BEST PICTURE OF THE YEAR?!? Holy cow! Some years are pretty thin in "greatness."
Prossor, are you fucking nuts?
by Continentalop
Jun 24th, 2009
06:34:13 PM
Yes Welles and Leone had a number of masterpieces, but they produced a much smaller quantity of films than Ford did. And they also worked off what he did first...as Isaac Newton once said, you work on the shoulder of giants. Ford was a giant. If it wasn't for him, they might not have been able to reach as high as they did (same with Kurasawa and Paul Schrader).

Plus I will put Searchers against anything, and I mean anything, that Leone did. We may all love Leone's anti-heroes, but none of his films deals with anywhere near the depth of characters or has as complex themes as the Searchers did. I'm not saying the Searchers is better, but it is just as damn good as anything Leone did, just not as "cool".

As for criticizing the Academy Award that year, how often do we really make the right choice, especially when dealing with something as groundbreaking as film? 1941 was a incredible banner year for film, and had many hard choices, so I don't blame them for doing what many people do when they face a hard choice, they went with a known commodity. John Ford was a proven great director and had already made a great film, Citizen Kane was either a new masterpiece or just all flash and be revealed as the Emperor's New Clothes. That is why I always think that maybe they should wait two-or-three years before selecting the Academy Award, it lets you have time to process whether the film is really good or not. Of course, that will never happen.

Seth Rogan, Jason Segal, Jonah Hill & Paul Rudd to HOST
by Kobaal
Jun 24th, 2009
06:38:19 PM
Why? Just 'cause.
Right on!
by kbarber29
Jun 24th, 2009
06:38:28 PM
More movies are out then ever, so it makes sense to increase the number of nominated films! Right on!
gamus you must have some pretty good connections
by RobertBaron
Jun 24th, 2009
06:38:56 PM
to have seen those movies already!
"Uh oh, our validity is waning. What do we do?"
by SoylentMean
Jun 24th, 2009
06:40:24 PM
Ha, ha, ha, the Oscars. Oh how they suck, and how!
"The High Hat", that reminds me of Miller's Crossing.
by SoylentMean
Jun 24th, 2009
06:41:38 PM
I love Miller's Crossing.
Seriously though, I have no problem with this...
by chaplinatemyshoe
Jun 24th, 2009
06:41:43 PM
It means films like City of God, The Diving Bell & the Butterfly and The Dark Knight are less likely to get snubbed.
Increase the SFX category, director, actor, actress...
by SoylentMean
Jun 24th, 2009
06:50:35 PM
screenplays, and sound.

But fuck the makeup category.

Also, they should leave the 3 nominees for Animated Feature the way it is, unless we somehow start getting really good Animated Features. Hint, Ice Age 3 doesn't look good.

Artie Lange to host.
by AzulTool
Jun 24th, 2009
07:09:28 PM
Conti--the end to your speech
by Six Demon Bag
Jun 24th, 2009
07:17:25 PM
"and fianlly, id like to take a moment for my parents, who never said i would amount to anything...well FUCK YOU!!!! I'm KING OF THE WORLD!!!

now where are the whores?"

No.
by Zeegloo
Jun 24th, 2009
08:33:59 PM
This is just diluted...
by Marshal_Lannes
Jun 24th, 2009
08:36:50 PM
...shit. If anything, the Oscars ought to take a page from the Golden Globes and have two awards- action/drama and comedy/musical. 10 nominees for Best Picture is just too...damn...many.
Now we know Transformers will at least get a nomination
by SoylentMean
Jun 24th, 2009
08:41:21 PM
since it will most likely be the box office champ this year. Too bad it fuckin' sucks.
The Oscars will be airing on MTV this year
by RobotKing
Jun 24th, 2009
08:43:00 PM
appararently
Prossor = THE PRINCE OF POETS
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
08:49:28 PM
Do 10
by Bass Ackwards
Jun 24th, 2009
08:50:51 PM
But then get rid of Best Animated and Best Foreign, and start nominating them against the usual shit. That'll see the occassional animated gem getting real recognition, and cut out the fat of stuff nominating Ice Age and Jimmy Neutron. But of course they won't do that, they'll just nominate 5 popular films that have no chance at winning as a way to bring in viewers. Oscars via MTV movie awards.
gamus -- you pick the nominees before seeing the films?!!
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
08:51:10 PM
Uhhhhhhhh.......LIKE TOTALLY FUCKIN' RETARDO = YOU!!!!
SECRET OF NIMH COULD HAVE BEAT GANDHI IN '82...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 24th, 2009
08:54:14 PM
.....so fuck you. If Nimh didn't have a shot-- no fucking cartoon should ever have a shot. Ever.
In other news
by IForgotAbout19
Jun 24th, 2009
08:56:32 PM
Hollywood to start pumping out twice as many biopics
Hey, viewers! A movie you've actually SEEN is
by CreasyBear
Jun 24th, 2009
09:00:59 PM
up for contention, so tune in! Keep in mind, we'll still go with the movie featuring the gay mentally handicapped main character with a horribly depressing ending, the movie that you wouldn't sit through if someone paid you to, but hey, take a chance!
It's going to be tough...
by ShogunMaster
Jun 24th, 2009
09:05:25 PM
Considering how shitty this year has been for movies, where the hell are they going to find 10 'best' nominees? Star Trek will be declared winner against GI Joe, TF2, Terminator 3, and the Hannah Montana Movie. I can't even think of more movies that came out this year, let alone anything worth 'best picture'.

Keep an eye in the audience for Miley breaking down when she doesn't win...

if films should be able to double-dip, as advocated
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Jun 24th, 2009
09:11:01 PM
by some, then what's the fucking point in having the individual categories? in the case of animated features, when do you break the threshold of being "merely" the best animated film to being best picture? shit should go either one way or the other.
What about Ten Nominees for 10 Directors?
by Orionsangels
Jun 24th, 2009
09:14:15 PM
So you have Ten Nominees for best picture. In the same respect then, shouldn't the directors be nominated equally?
The voters don't even watch the 5 they're supposed to
by TheApostle
Jun 24th, 2009
09:21:38 PM
... and now the academy expects them to watch 10? Bullshit.
Best picture will still be Jewy or gay
by Reno
Jun 24th, 2009
09:26:38 PM
They can have 100 nominees for Best Picture. The "winner" will still be some Holocaust-related thing, or something gay. That's all the Oscars know to give trophies to.
Also introduced this year
by IForgotAbout19
Jun 24th, 2009
09:31:14 PM
Best Cleavage Award (5 nominees, 10 winners)
I admit that last one was kind of easy.
by IForgotAbout19
Jun 24th, 2009
09:33:18 PM
Oh well, maybe I'll still get nominated.
let's not forget the gimpy, Reno
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Jun 24th, 2009
09:34:07 PM
nothing screams "Oscar Bait" like a slow, gimpy bastard.
Jewy, Gimpy & Gay
by IForgotAbout19
Jun 24th, 2009
09:36:36 PM
Oscar winner for Best Sitcom, Coming this fall to FOX
They should have a best Comedy category....
by theycallmemrtibbs
Jun 24th, 2009
09:39:05 PM
Yeah Reno, you're right!
by D.Vader
Jun 24th, 2009
09:40:33 PM
Especially since that gay movie Brokeback Mountain won!
As Opposed To Your Favorite Movies, Reno?
by Rebeck2
Jun 24th, 2009
09:43:35 PM
Southern, Stupid, and 'Splodin. You inbred peckerwood.
Reno's Best Picture Nominee
by Rebeck2
Jun 24th, 2009
09:47:19 PM
Anything with Larry The Cable Guy. Cuz that thar is entertainment.
We all know what this means. Transformers 2 nominated.
by ricarleite2
Jun 24th, 2009
09:51:13 PM
Along with Terminator 4, Avatar, Last Airbender, Night at the Museum 2, X-Men Origins Wolverine...
A sure fire best actor winner....
by The Dum Guy
Jun 24th, 2009
09:52:29 PM
A film about about a gay, retarded, slave (fuck, make him an alcoholic also).

Imagine: Amistad meets Brokeback Mountain meets Rainman meets Affliction.

And, I know some of those didn't win shit, but just imagine the movie.
unless the yet-to-be-released films of '09 come with
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Jun 24th, 2009
09:53:46 PM
the kick-assery, picking 5 nominees will prove to be a chore, let alone 10. because as of right now, '09s shit is weak. as fuck.
Tell Ya What...
by Rebeck2
Jun 24th, 2009
10:02:47 PM
Reno - stop going to see movies that are Jewy or Gay or Black or Chinky or Wop-ish or Vagina-ish or Democraty or int-I-lectual or anti-Bush or any of those fuckers where you gotta' read them words on the screen that flash by too fast, I hate that... And don't see any movies MADE by said mudpeople. Then see how your rental choices narrow down. Pretty soon you'll just be watching an endless loop of The Blue Collar Comedy Tour, until you decide to kill yourself. But have the integrity of your ignorance, stand by it. Because I hate to break it to you, you backwards motherfucker, but all your entertainment is made by Jews and queers and Liberals and people whose names end in a vowel, and you can kiss their ass.
Does anyone care about the Oscars anymore?
by romanocc
Jun 24th, 2009
10:12:06 PM
Just take a look at the 00's Oscar Winners, really crappy decade. Crash? Gladiator? Chicago? A Beautiful Mind? Million Dollar Baby? The Departed? Good movies, but are there any classics this decade????? And I still havent forgiven the Oscars for Shakespeare of Private Ryan!
Classic of this decade: The Fall.
by Dingbatty
Jun 24th, 2009
10:14:48 PM
Classic-er of this decade: Let the Right One In
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Jun 24th, 2009
10:16:47 PM

Just Because...
by Rebeck2
Jun 24th, 2009
10:19:24 PM
Movies today suck, doesn't mean the Oscars don't matter anymore - it just means they have much less quality product to choose from. That's why it makes such great sense to increase the Best Picture category to 10 films! Fuckin' idiots.
Billy Connolly should host
by BBSloth
Jun 24th, 2009
10:34:06 PM
or Ricky Gervais
I agree to disagree with Herc
by onezeroone
Jun 24th, 2009
10:36:17 PM
I believe problem in recent times has been not strong enough 5 movies to nominate. Slumdog ruled last year, before that TWBB and NCFOM. What we need is better quality of movies, where competition is so intense that no one can predict which one is going to win.

Well, that happens now also, but is more on lines of 'will the Academy fuck it upagain?' And from looks of it, they're fucking it up well in advance.

It won't mean anything to be nominated anymore
by My friends call me Killjoy
Jun 24th, 2009
11:12:38 PM
If they go to 10 films, they need to eliminate the animated, documentary, and foreign film categories. The 10 best films of the year...period.
This outrage is silly
by CherryValance
Jun 24th, 2009
11:14:01 PM
Every year there are a bunch of papers, magazines, organizations, that put out Top Ten lists and no one complains. Even Harry does it. So why do you guys think there aren't enough movies to pick from?
Gayness!! This is Sparta!!!!!!!!!!!!
by T2000
Jun 24th, 2009
11:16:11 PM
THE ROAD. BEST PICTURE 2009.
by uberman
Jun 24th, 2009
11:20:48 PM
You heard it here first.
My friends call me Killjoy
by The Dum Guy
Jun 24th, 2009
11:23:42 PM
It'll mean a hell of alot to marketing.
This has zip to do with ratings...
by Logan_1973
Jun 24th, 2009
11:45:31 PM
...and is more of a knee-jerk reaction to The Dark Knight and Wall*E getting snubbed last year. chances are this next awards season they'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel to fill 10
This is a good thing
by SnatchVagina
Jun 25th, 2009
12:06:00 AM
I swear, some of ya'll aren't happy unless you're miserable. Always complaining about everything, and the same here. The only thing I see by expanding the Best Picture nominees to ten is improvement. What, if this had been in effect last year you'd most likely get a nom for THE DARK KNIGHT, WALL-E, REVOLUTIONARY ROAD, and maybe a WALTZ WITH BASHIR. How is that bad? The result would be no different (SLUMDOG would have still won), except now you have more genre-type films finally getting recognized; films that never get the recognition they deserve because the Academy only nominates a certain type of film. Hell, this year it might even mean that a cinematic genius like Hayao Miyazaki can finally be recognized for PONYO. To me, that's a win-win. Is it about ratings? Yes, but I'm not looking at what the motive behind it is; instead, I'm looking at the end result. Smaller films that cater to more niche audiences get the light of day. A nomination for a film like WALTZ WITH BASHIR will not only get these films the critical accolades they deserve, but will put them in more theaters and the typical Oscar box office boost will put more money into the hands of those filmmakers not with the name Michael Bay. That's good, right? Lighten the fuck up and stop trying to hate every damn thing. It does not make you cool.
if all the movies are about abused women boxers watch out!
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 25th, 2009
12:14:13 AM
FUCK THE OSCARS!!! THEY ARE AN OBVIOUS SCAM!!!
by Johnno
Jun 25th, 2009
12:21:39 AM
There's NO WAY that 'Jai Ho' should've won for best song!!! 'O Saya' was clearly FAR BETTER!!! A. R. Rahman WAS ROBBED!!!
The statuette should be of an Oscar blowing itself.
by Det. John Kimble
Jun 25th, 2009
12:22:46 AM
This is pointeless money gribbung.
CRASH WON BEST PICTURE?!?!? FUCKING CRASH???
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 25th, 2009
12:23:47 AM
Out of all that shit CRASH wins?
Avatar is the next Titanic!!!
by Johnno
Jun 25th, 2009
12:30:51 AM
Full sweep for all production awards!!! I call 10 Oscars including Best Film! UP! will also be nominated for best film and it'll be about damn time! Pixar's only rivals are potentially the Japanese. One being Miyazaki, but unfortunately Ponyo won't be that film. And Otomo needs to get off his ass and make Steamboy 2! It's a travesty that Steamboy wasn't nominated last time! Maybe Satoshi Kon? But I've no idea what he's up to... anyway, 'Millenium Actress' was hands down the best animated film out that year, same for 'Tokyo Godfathers'!!! Pixar's all well and good, but ignoring good anime that everyone can agree on and nominating Dreamwork's crap has no fucking room for excuses!
FUCK UP!!!
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 25th, 2009
12:37:34 AM
Overhyped piece of shit.
Horrible idea unless they include documentaries, animated and fo
by Rev. Slappy
Jun 25th, 2009
01:13:34 AM
A better idea would be to reveal what came in second and how many votes each nominee got.
Larry David should host.
by Delagoya
Jun 25th, 2009
01:26:30 AM
Up should get nominated. So should Ponyo On A Cliff By The Sea.
second the Larry David suggestion
by gamus
Jun 25th, 2009
01:36:59 AM
although I don't think he'll accept.
This isn't about TDK's or Wall-E's supposed snub
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
01:46:04 AM
This, as someone else already pointed out above, is about economics and selling DVDs. This is about "Nominated for Best Picture" being blurbed on five more covers to generate interest and sales.

Period.

THE DARK KNIGHT would'nt have been nominated even if there'd been ten slots. Why? There were, at least, eleven better films last year, for one. For two, the ending sucked. Ten minutes of unadulterated gibberish.

Nikki Finke - it's all about the money
by gamus
Jun 25th, 2009
01:50:59 AM
http://www.deadlinehollywoodda ily.com/but-why-academy-to-now -allow-10-films-in-best-pictur e-category/
Best Fake CG in a blockbuster movie
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 25th, 2009
02:11:01 AM
Best reboot of an old movie. Best movie based on a TV show. Most Overrated Pixar movie of the Year.
I third the Larry David idea
by Cletus Van Damme
Jun 25th, 2009
02:24:36 AM
The motion is passed.
RENO, What fucking Award Ceremony are you watching?
by Continentalop
Jun 25th, 2009
03:18:24 AM
Only one film has won Best Picture have dealt with the Holocaust - Schindler's List (The Pianist won for Best Director not picture) Only one out of the 62 Academy Award ceremonies since the end of WWII. And only tjree films dealing with Jews have won it if you add Gentleman's Agreement and Driving Miss Daisy (which is far from just a Jewish movie).

As for Gay people, some have been nominated - Milk, Philadelphia, Dog Day Afternoon, Brokeback Mountain - but none have won Best Picture, unless you want to read Midnight Cowboy as a gay movie (even though the gay director Schlesinger insisted it wasn't). So making a movie dealing with gays and jews isn't really a goldmine for winning Best Picture.

I would hate to call you a bigoted, anti-semitic homophobe, but I don't know how else to describe you.

"Jewy and gay?' What an asshole.

Still can't figure out why Shakespere in love got
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 25th, 2009
03:20:22 AM
Best Picture over fucking Saving Private Ryan
Oh goody, five more chances for the Academy
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Jun 25th, 2009
07:28:44 AM
to be snobby.
Stupid
by Le Phantom
Jun 25th, 2009
07:35:06 AM
1 - There aren't 10 Oscar worthy pictures in one year! 2 - They still have no category at all for stunts 3 - Some catagories like effects, still only have 3 nominees! All bullshit!
Whenever I think stunts I think Dar Robinson
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Jun 25th, 2009
07:47:49 AM
before CGI he did stuff that no one else would do. He even got to act a few times. I still remember his most famous stunt. Burt Reynolds dropped him from the side of a building, and as he was falling backwards instead of freaking out, his albino assassin character fired up at Reynolds trying to finish the job. Then a while later Dar died in what is considered a relatively normal stunt.
"And the 9th runner up is..."
by Philaspenser
Jun 25th, 2009
07:56:33 AM
Here's a comment I originally posted at "Hollywood Elsewhere" and will also share here: I just had a GREAT idea... okay, it's a possibly cheesy idea but it'll really play to the cheap seats: 15 minutes into the Oscar broadcast next year, announce the 9th runner up award in the Best Pic category, then 15 minutes later announce the 8th runner up winner, etc. It'll create excitement as the list slowly gets chipped away at. During the last minute or two of the show, there will be only two movies left standing and one wins. Of course, the downside is if popular favorites get the heave-ho early on in the show. But it might not be a problem, as a "Dark Knight" would have definitely remained standing for at least a good portion of the show if the 10-nominations thing was in force last year.

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 25th, 2009
08:17:15 AM
I loved SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE.

Sometimes a man has to speak out when no one else will.


by Cobra--Kai
Jun 25th, 2009
08:19:32 AM
"Best Cleavage Award (5 nominees, 10 winners)"

Lol, dude you win the Oscar for best one-liner.

But now the Razzies will have 10 nominees
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Jun 25th, 2009
08:27:51 AM
and you know even then that's not enough for the Razzies.
SnatchVagina
by Logan_1973
Jun 25th, 2009
08:29:25 AM
Go back thru the years and try to pick 10 nominees...you'll be making some stretches.
Logan_1973
by gamus
Jun 25th, 2009
08:52:11 AM
name a year. this could be fun
10?
by Dead_Geek
Jun 25th, 2009
09:06:05 AM
10 films for best picture? When last year there were only 3 good films in all. Stupid.
Harry wont like this if say
by emeraldboy
Jun 25th, 2009
09:08:29 AM
a fox film gets nominated. With the academy Xpanding the list, that is bound to happen. I have heard that one of the strong contenders is the new film from rob Marshall. Stars daniel Day lewis. Its a musical.
this system is already flawed...
by Six Demon Bag
Jun 25th, 2009
09:12:16 AM
whats the point of having ten pic noms and NOT director noms...the 5 films that have director noms are gonna be the favorites and the other 5 are gonna be also-rans before they even "ran". this should be fixed.
I'm with the first poster
by The StarWolf
Jun 25th, 2009
09:12:29 AM
The Oscars are ridiculously long as it is and they want to make them longer? Count me out. Feh.
people complaining about oscar length
by Six Demon Bag
Jun 25th, 2009
09:20:59 AM
DVR them and fast forward...its really not that hard, besides they arent really for you anyway..they are just letting you see them. they used to not televise them.
"Movies today suck, doesn't mean the Oscars don't matter...
by Big Jim
Jun 25th, 2009
09:36:22 AM
"...anymore - it just means they have much less quality product to choose from. That's why it makes such great sense to increase the Best Picture category to 10 films!"

No, that's why it doesn't make sense. Why, with most movies sucking (as you say), is it a better idea to reward mediocrity with a Best Picture nomination?

Others above have said the number should not be fixed but rather should reflect the quality of films that year. The decision to have 3, 5, 7, 10, 15 or whatever number Best Picture nominees, should come during the short-listing phase. I don't know how they get from 300 or so films a year down to 5, whether it is by vote, by committee, by studio bribery, or some other method. However, if the Academy finds there are 9 or 10 films that are all on a relatively equal level then have 10 nominees that year. If, on the other hand, some year they find there are only 4 or 5 films that truly stand head and shoulders above all other, then nominate only 5, or even 4.

Movies should not be nominated simply to fill a slot that was created as part of an arbitrary number. A Best Picture nomination should be an honor that carries some distinction and not something that is simply given as a place-holder.

If Watchmen is nominated for Best Picture...
by HoboCode
Jun 25th, 2009
09:41:03 AM
I will never watch another film again.
Big Jim
by Rebeck2
Jun 25th, 2009
10:21:18 AM
I was being sarcastic. You left out my last two words: "Fuckin' idiots". I agree with you, completely. I wouldn't be so opposed to them saying the category MAY expand up to 6, 7, even 10 in certain years, but to just double the nominees - when we can barely find five decent films a year - is ridiculous. It's June, halfway through the year, how many "Best Pictures" have you seen? Me: ZERO.
CHILDREN OF FUCKING MEN
by Kief_Ledger
Jun 25th, 2009
10:40:08 AM
should've been nominated
Do any of you actually watch the Oscars?
by conspiracy
Jun 25th, 2009
10:41:25 AM
I'm just curious.

I've never watched the Oscars for more than 30 minutes. For me it is like watching an Employee of the year banquet of a company I do not work for, and in which I do not know a single person. Although, I can see watching it if you are somehow attached to the properties nominated.

Conspiracy
by Rebeck2
Jun 25th, 2009
10:44:06 AM
So why are you posting about it then? And furthermore, why do you hang out at a movie site?? Do you only see movies made by your friends? I don't think so. Dude, go away.
Rebeck2
by HoboCode
Jun 25th, 2009
10:50:09 AM
You know about the concept of Oscar season, right? The reason you haven't seen any Oscar films is because these studios know they're only chance to win an Oscar is to release their movie closer to the end of the year so it's fresh in voter's minds. It sucks but it's true. 10 months of shit and then in the last two months they dumb 30 great films on us at once sometimes only rleasing them in NY and LA on December 31 just to get in under the deadline.
Rebeck2...Because I'm curious as to why you watch.
by conspiracy
Jun 25th, 2009
10:53:39 AM
I hang out at a movie site because I like films, the Oscars really are not about "films", they are about the corporations/individuals that made them, and even at that they provide no insite on the inspiration of the film or the particulars of its making. In fact they do not even give the reasons why a particular film was awarded over other nominated films, if that were the case I'd probably watch to gain insite on the decision process.

No...I was just curious as to why people watch them, what is the attraction?

My apologies, Rebeck2, I misinterpreted your post.
by Big Jim
Jun 25th, 2009
10:55:50 AM
I did not read it as being sarcastic and thought "fuckin' idiots" was directed at those who have or might disagree with what you wrote.
Cobra_Kai
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
11:12:12 AM
You have balls.

I have never been able to admit, in public, that I, too, prefer that silly Shakespeare thing to Spielberg's over-wrought Private Ryan.

ah letterman..Oprah..Uma
by Potatino
Jun 25th, 2009
11:13:12 AM
Uma.. Oprah. Gold! Letterman's hosting job was so bad it was good. I agree let Letterman host it again, but only if he does a really really crap job!!
Really make it interesting, all the losers get shot
by SoylentMean
Jun 25th, 2009
11:21:53 AM
live on television. Then the ratings would skyrocket!
And yes...I watch the Oscars every fucking year.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 25th, 2009
11:26:24 AM
...in its entirety. And I still enjoy the hell out of it. Even if I don't give a fuck who is winning. I still enjoy it. Its good family time.
why are people complaining about the length??
by Six Demon Bag
Jun 25th, 2009
11:39:19 AM
this will add maybe 5 minutes to the proceeding...they will show a 30 sec clip from each film...wowsa!
gamus
by ricarleite2
Jun 25th, 2009
11:44:21 AM
2009. Good fucking luck.
DGDB...Respect. But here is the way I'd make it watchable
by conspiracy
Jun 25th, 2009
11:51:29 AM
No red carpet, No bad song and dance numbers, no horrible hosts, no close up shots of celebs, no talk about dresses, tuxedos, jewelry. No Auditorium full of people. Instead we get the President of the Academy and some seats.

He announces the nominees...and then the winner for a given catagory. Winner comes out, does his thank yous and sits down.

THe Academy guy talks for about 5 minutes as to why this film was chosen over the others, with pertinant scenes shown, and then they talk to the person/people just awarded to get their insight on the film and its making. ENd of segment..next award.

It would be half the length...and much more entertaining to film fans in my opinion.

Six Demon Bag
by HoboCode
Jun 25th, 2009
12:05:19 PM
And a song and dance routine for each one. Are they going to nominate 10 films for BP but only 5 in the other categories? If not that would be unjust. If they do it's going to take on at least another 30-45 minutes. Some of us on the East Cost like to sleep and not stay up until 2 am.
If they want ratings
by Rand92
Jun 25th, 2009
12:05:49 PM
Instead of 10 nominees, how about nominating worthy films and performers people have actually seen. Every year now the films get more obscure and the actors as well. There are plenty of mainstream films that are well-made. With the exception of The Departed, Oscar has gone completely Indie art-house for its nominees since Return of the King. If they want television ratings, they have to change what they nominate. 10 obscure films wont make any difference.
Sorry
by HoboCode
Jun 25th, 2009
12:07:04 PM
If they do it would be unjust and if not it would add more time. Long day.
I never understand this "Films are more obscure" thing....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 25th, 2009
12:15:00 PM
Ben Button, Frost/Nixon, Milk, Slumdog.....really? Those are obscure snobby films? Give me a fucking break. Half you motherfuckers crying about how obscure and high falootin the Oscars have become are the same people that rave about how hip you are because you watch the Independent Spirit Awards. Talk about obscure bullshit no one fucking watches. By saying the Oscar Picture nominees are obscure, what you really mean is they are not Summer Blockbusters. I'm all for the big budget spectacles. I see more of those films than anything else...and indy drama award baiting shit bores me to tears. I just think its delusional to consider the Best Picture nominees to be these tiny obscure films no one knows about...its just not true.
This is a nail in their coffin...
by SK229
Jun 25th, 2009
12:15:48 PM
Integrity seems to be in extremely short supply in Hollywood. Jesus Christ, the economy is really this bad? I'm not saying this puts them one step away from the Spike awards, but it definitely removes a bit of the shiny object syndrome studios will have with winning these things. And it comes off as PURELY a cynical financial move, not a move to embrace a wider variety of nominees. I mean come the fuck on, even the WINNERS hardly ever deserve to win, now we're going to have more nominees? What the fuck is this world coming to? Is every goddamn media outlet, blog, news organization, critic, and group like the Academy willing to sell out in one way or another to get a wider audience? In the end, all they're doing is alienating the audience they already have and then trying to appeal to the same broad swath of people who could give two shits to begin with, are fickle, and won't stick around long enough to put them into the black. I'm continually amazed at this... media is truly eating itself alive, chasing it's own ass for an audience. Actually, if you think about it, there's going to be lots of little niches opening up for other companies/content producers to fill a gap and make some money.
Hobo
by Six Demon Bag
Jun 25th, 2009
12:17:11 PM
skip the song and dance...yeah they should add 5 more for director at least..the 5 films that get both noms for pic and director WILL BE the frontrunners..and we are back to the same problem..whats the point of recognizing them if they have no chance to win?

they can keep acting cats the same for all icare--its hard to get even 5

Yeah, obscure?
by SK229
Jun 25th, 2009
12:18:52 PM
No Country For Old Men? There Will Be Blood? American Beauty? Gladiator? The Dark Knight (Ledger DID win)? Million Dollar Baby? Yeah... nobody went to see any of those fucking movies... I mean, who has heard of Russell Crowe?
There usually aren't even 10 good films each year!
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
Jun 25th, 2009
12:18:59 PM
But the Academy probably realizes that everyone else is starting to realize that this is just a political ploy to include films that the general public thinks are deserving. The awards will still go to those lowball films that "preach" Hollywood social views.

The question will continue to be which "gay rights," "anti-conservative," "anti-Christian" or "global warming" film will win this year?

Yeah, the BEST PICTURE of 2008 was, without a doubt, THE DARK KNIGHT. However, the Academy was probably upset with the allegorical elements of the film (Batman's own phone-tapping "Patriot Act" for finding a terrorist named the Joker -AND- "waterboarding the terrorist is sometimes needed" attitude).

Films like THE DARK KNIGHT and CHILDREN OF MEN were robbed -- and will continue to be robbed -- although they might (just might) received a nomination.
OBSCURE = NOT IRON MAN
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 25th, 2009
12:20:49 PM
Remember...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
Jun 25th, 2009
12:25:10 PM
...the Academy Aware for BEST PICTURE goes to the film that the 5,722 STUDIO INSIDERS (actors, producers, directors, editors, etc...) think to be the "best." Fuck the public!

They are merely collecting money, garnishing some free advertising, allowing the winners to share their political views during speeches...while patting themselves on the back for what they think is a "job well done."

Re: ccchhhrrriiisssm
by SK229
Jun 25th, 2009
12:38:25 PM
But there are now like 100 other awards shows that cater to the public's taste. Hell, it's even breaking down into niche's of the public's opinions on what is good and what isn't. Why shouldn't there be a few inward facing circle jerk award shows? I understand your argument and I agree about the political aspects, but how else would we really know what those homo loving commie bastards like and don't like?
SK229...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
Jun 25th, 2009
12:57:38 PM
You're right! However, the OSCARs are marketed as if they are the king of all awards -- and the only awards that truly matter.

You and I view the Academy Awards as merely the opinion of the particularly elite industry members who comprise the voters. I usually disagree with their opinions anyway. However, the studios still market them as if they truly matter.

It is the biggest show in Hollywood for a reason -- because it is given by the studio big wigs (as a chance to advertise and make money at the same time). Instead of an "inward facing circle jerk award show," it is a career builder (or career destroyer, in certain cases). It is the time of year that most big name clebrities (and those who want to be big name celebrities) gather to bow before the industry and kiss the bowels of the studios.

Their opinion is strictly their own...but they package it in a way that makes it seem like a consensus of the public, critics, etc... It is hilarious that they make soooooooo much money advertising their films to us while giving themselves awards! In the end, they are still the same "preachy" films that the big wigs choose to win. The only time they feel otherwise is when they fear a public backlash from their choices.

I think that this new 10 film selection format is a result of the public's anger about THE DARK KNIGHT getting snubbed last year in favor of Slumdog, Milk and Benjamin Button. Some of those were good films -- but FAR from the best.

Right...
by SK229
Jun 25th, 2009
01:10:56 PM
I think, though, that what you're arguing is more of a change of the tone of the show itself, and that I agree with. I just don't think they should even attempt to second-guess themselves based upon popularity and box office when it comes to picking the films or second guess the audience they're catering to. 10 nominees in an overly self-important awards show is still an overly self-important awards show. I wouldn't change the nominees and the voting, if they get it wrong, they get it wrong... so be it. It's one of the interesting things about the show actually. Sometimes they do get it right and even then, it's a matter of opinion. But it probably wouldn't be as offensive to some of the public if it weren't marketed the way you are describing, which is true. And I don't even think it's just a matter of perception, as much as I enjoy watching the show every year, I actually work in the entertainment industry and it makes me cringe and think, "Holy shit... they really do act like we're curing cancer." Empirically, there are times when the show comes off as offensively self-righteous... and that would usually be any time it presumes that the nominees are already annointed classics or stars that will be beloved for all time (they're just nominees for THIS year, only time can tell otherwise), or when it veers off into too much political bs. Also, with the host... the reason it's the toughest hosting job is because the audience is ready to get pissed at ANYTHING that suggests this isn't the center of the universe for that night. Those constant refrains of A BILLION VIEWERS has go to go. There may be a billion POTENTIAL viewers, but I'm always amazed at the number of people I know who don't bother to watch or just flip back and forth here and there, maybe to catch the end. So I'd change the pace, length, and tone of the show, but I wouldn't change the process.
To the "there aren't 10 good films a year!" crowd.
by HoboCode
Jun 25th, 2009
01:11:59 PM
Horseshit. You just don't see any of them.
HoboCode: Correction
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
Jun 25th, 2009
01:22:22 PM
There may be 10 good films a year -- but they aren't the ones that are picked by the Academy. Of course, there are some years that those 10 "good" films might prove tedious to find.
This'll cut down on the "my fave film didn't even get nominated"
by SoylentMean
Jun 25th, 2009
01:25:37 PM
This is also going to throw Vegas for a loop.
It's usually not that hard to find 10 good films in a year
by SoylentMean
Jun 25th, 2009
01:27:39 PM
Although this year is, so far, presenting quite a challenge. We still have 6 months left, but as of now there hasn't been too much to get excited about. Does anybody know if they're going to increase the nominees in any other category, or is this just a test run?
10 good films this year?
by Lost Jarv
Jun 25th, 2009
01:42:44 PM
good fucking luck.
DGDB
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
02:11:04 PM
In this society? Yeah, FROST / NIXON is practically an alien transmission. A film about something that people actually could stand on one side or the other of which is really no more than a discussion between people.

No action, explosions, computer-generated anything.

No high concept hook as universal as "boy + car."

No possibility of a fast-food tie-in.

It was hardly "art-house," but it might as well have been.

But, remeber, you're talking to posters on AICN. This is not a film-centric, or, even, very well-informed, group.

Raise your hands. Who has seen a Herzog film?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?

Discussing the Oscars with these people is like discussing rock n roll with MTV fans.

"Public's anger about TDK getting snubbed."
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
02:15:30 PM
Um, the public has lost their retirement funds. Some of the public is unemployed. Some have lost family in a War On The Truth.

No one, but an idiot, is angry - or ever was - about TDK and its hurt "feewings."

THIS is about the money that is generated, both at box office and through DVD sales, of Oscar-nominated films.

best movies so far
by ArmySmithaz
Jun 25th, 2009
02:18:54 PM
Up, The hangover, star trek, Taken, why the hell 10 nominations, their aint even 10 good movies a year
best movies this year, so far
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
02:28:20 PM
haven't even been in theaters yet.

Up! is, maybe, the least worthy Pixar flick since Cars. CORALINE was a better, more original, film, but I'm not advocating it as any kind of great, either.

The Hangover isn't half as funny as it claims to be. Plus, simply for graphic images of Zack Galfiawhattaknockis getting a blow job should be erased from existense.

Dawson's Trek. Yawn.

Taken? Sorry, I don't even know what that is.

My guess would be that THE ROAD, PRECIOUS, SHUTTER ISLAND, THE GREAT BUCK HOWARD, and a bunch of other movies I don't even know of yet will be the contenders this year.

Subtitles_Off...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
Jun 25th, 2009
02:29:40 PM
I am angry that THE DARK KNIGHT was snubbed by the Academy. So were many other people. In fact, it was even included as a story by NBC, ABC, CNN and even THE NEW YORK TIMES (along with many other news outlets). We're not "idiots."

But you're right. For the Academy, this is about MONEY and PRESTIGE. The Academy would LOVE for their hand-picked films to make more money. However, this is also a question of LEGITIMACY. The Academy has lost its importance because John Q. Public is starting to see the Oscars for what they are: Rich studios are merely increasing profits through free advertising, allowing the winners to share their political or social views during speeches...while congratulating themselves for what they think is a "job well done."

I've seen many Herzog films.
by HoboCode
Jun 25th, 2009
02:31:51 PM
just saying.
In a year with a lackluster Summer, will Fall bring hope?
by SoylentMean
Jun 25th, 2009
02:34:57 PM
I'm really hoping that since this Summer has sucked more than it hasn't that we'll see some really good films hit theaters in the Fall and early Winter.

After last year's abyssmal selection of "Best Picture" contenders I think we're overdue.

All right HoboCode!
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
02:35:46 PM
Good on ya.

P.S. ccchhhrrr etc: If you are angry about TDK not getting a nomination for Best Picture, then, yes, you are an idiot. Look it up. Webster's. Under "i." [ID-ee-uht] Picture of you.

I thought The Dark Knight was BP caliber.
by HoboCode
Jun 25th, 2009
02:37:37 PM
I thought it was snubbed as well.
ccchhhrrriiisssm
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
02:37:59 PM
Just poking ya, ok?

Seriously, find something more legitimate to be angry about. There's plenty.

Herzog's Nosferatu inferior to Murnau's
by SoylentMean
Jun 25th, 2009
02:38:39 PM
Yet it was still enjoyable. The two together make a great double feature.

But there's nothing like falling asleep to Murnau's film and waking up to the stairwell scene...

I think you have low BP qualifications.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
02:40:24 PM
Then again, I think the Academy does too.

But I expect more of one who is acquainted with Herzog.

Was FITZCARRALDO nominated for BP?

Case closed, either way.

SoylentMean, of course
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
02:42:05 PM
Have you ever watched VAMPYR?
Subtitles_Off, nope but it's in my Netflix Queue
by SoylentMean
Jun 25th, 2009
02:52:16 PM
I've only heard good things about Vampyr.

Speaking of subtitles, and I'm not sure if you're a fan of the movie or not, but I just saw that the Blu-Ray of Iron Monkey is coming soon. I just wonder if we'll have the option of seeing the film with the original language intact. Then I will have to put the subtitles on, but most likely enjoy the film much more.


by Cobra--Kai
Jun 25th, 2009
02:53:02 PM
And so it was written that Our Lord Bale was denied three times for TDK by his disciple Oscar.

Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Director.

"Have mercy upon them, for they know not what they do" quoth Bale as he pissed on the corpse of Sean Penn.

Subtitles_Off...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
Jun 25th, 2009
02:58:52 PM
Sure, there are far more important things to be angry about, but you seem to be the guy writing posts and rebuttals about this.

Me? I could care less about the opinions of the 5000+ plus voters of the Academy. I just don't like the fact that they act and market these awards as if their opinion is the only one that TRULY matters.

And, yes, I would think that any one of Herzog's films are better than 90% of the nominees for BEST PICTURE.
I always enjoy subtitles more.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
02:59:31 PM
My handle is ironic, that way.

VAMPYR is stunning.

You should also queue up Bergman's HOUR OF THE WOLF.

THAT'S the kind of horror that gives me the heebie-jeebies.

I have not seen IRON MONKEY.

I used to tape the Oscars.
by TedKordLives
Jun 25th, 2009
03:02:34 PM
As a kid, every year, I would make predictions for every category, and bet my Uncle John a dollar that I'd get more right than him.

Finally, tho, I realized how shallow and bogus the Oscars really are and stopped caring. Remember the year that Halle Berry AND Denzel Washington won Oscars. AND fucking Sydney Poiter got the lifetime achievement award? Now look, I'm not racist in the least, I swear, but that's SO fucking obvious and obviously a setup. They're staged, people. Staged to sell fucking tickets and DVDs. Staged as fodder for gossip rags (and shows). Staged so ridiculously rich celebrities can stand in a circle jerk that's watched by millions of people.

And Forrest fucking Gump? Don't even get me started.

Here you go ironic_name
by Continentalop
Jun 25th, 2009
03:02:48 PM
THE PROFESSIONALS: Part 51

THE BALES OF MADISON COUNTY;

She sat at the end of the bed, the sheet barely clinging to her naked body. She looked up at him, her eyes pleading with him to stay.

“Why?” she finally asked, her voice filled with hurt and pain.

DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD didn’t reply. He stood at the open window, looking out at the lights of Paris at night. He took another long drag from his cigarette before finally turning to face her.

“You wouldn’t understand, baby. I don’t know if I understand it myself. But we just wouldn’t work out.” “Why?” she repeated, tears building up in her eyes. “I love you. Don’t you love-“

DICKBLOOD cut her off in mid-sentence. “Don’t ask questions to things you don’t really want to know the answer to.”

“Why don’t you love me? Aren’t I beautiful?” DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD sighed, sat down on the bed next to her. “Let me put it in words you can understand, baby. My lights were trashed. Ok? I walked into someone’s eyeline and they just trashed my lights. And nothing is going to put them up again.”

She studied him for a moment, than said, “This is because of Bale, isn’t it.” “WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING??” BGDB screamed. “WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THEENK YOU ARE DOING? WHAT IS IT WITH YOU? DO YOU KNOW HOW DISTRACTING YOU ARE?”

She started to cry then, tears flowing down her cheeks. DGBD shook his head, and then pulled her towards him.

“I’m sorry baby. You’re right. Bale is involved. But I am not doing this because of him.”

“Then why?” she asked through her tears.

“Because you are an amateur, and I am a PROFESSIONAL. You’re just ah-da-da-dah, like this in the background. You're a nice guy. You're a nice guy, but that don't fuckin’ cut it when you're fuckin’ around like this on set.”

His words into her like knives and she lowered her head. He could hear sobbing escape her. “I’m sorry, but I am done with you professionally.” She looked up and him, her eyes wet and her lips moist with desire. “Please, just kiss me one last time, “ she begged him, as she dropped the sheet to reveal her beautiful body. “Just kiss me like before.” DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD leaned over, closed his eyes kissed her. She felt her head growing light with ecstasy.

Little did she know that he was thinking of Bale the entire time.

"TRULY" matters?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
03:05:23 PM
I don't even think the Academy believes that, if they were forced to admit it.

I think they just play on their position as the "original" awards show. I dunno.

I don't think you can blame them when you think you're favorite movie is "snubbed." There's no such thing as "has to be nominated." There's no engraved criteria.

Fuck, I screwed up on some of the < P >
by Continentalop
Jun 25th, 2009
03:07:35 PM
Combined a couple of paragraphs on accident. Damn it. I'm not posting this twice.
Ewwwwwww
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
03:08:09 PM
DGDB wants The Bale to kiss him?

On the mouth?

When he's kissing a woman...
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
03:09:10 PM
...he's thinking of The Bale?
Ewwwwwwwwwww
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
03:09:54 PM
Shit, not only do I screw up the post
by Continentalop
Jun 25th, 2009
03:10:13 PM
I posted it in the wrong TB.
You wouldn't understand Subtitles_Off
by Continentalop
Jun 25th, 2009
03:11:32 PM
It's a Baleback thing.

by Cobra--Kai
Jun 25th, 2009
03:12:15 PM
Conti = professionalism.
Am I a homophobe now?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
03:12:21 PM
I mean, yeah, sure, if you picture yourself with Ryan Reynold's abs whne you're kissing a girl, that's okay. I think.

But thinking of THE BALE the entire time? Even while she's licking the backs of your teeth?

DGDB, I have lost respect.

I'm afraid
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
03:13:58 PM
I couldn't handle a Baleback.
Rock and Roll with MTV fans....hehehehe
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 25th, 2009
03:49:55 PM
Subtitles_Off -- you wouldn't understand.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 25th, 2009
03:51:16 PM
Sometimes to taste the man, is to be the man.
and thanks for posting that in here Conti....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 25th, 2009
03:51:47 PM
....my credibility with the women is fucking ruined.
I'll believe it when Star Trek gets nominated!
by MrMysteryGuest
Jun 25th, 2009
04:00:43 PM
Conti-
by TedKordLives
Jun 25th, 2009
04:04:25 PM
Thanks for posting that in the wrong TB. Made my day.
TedKordLives -- FUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jun 25th, 2009
04:05:12 PM
I hope they ditch that five past winners kiss new winner
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 25th, 2009
04:11:00 PM
ass format they did this year.
If anything DGDB
by Continentalop
Jun 25th, 2009
04:15:05 PM
It is my credibility that is ruined.

"Continentalop's got like some gay fantasies about DGDB and Bale? FUUUUCK!"

Yeah, lockes
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
04:16:48 PM
Or at least make them say something intelligent other than "golly, you did real good"
Top, that ain't how I took it.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
04:18:05 PM
I thought you were just reporting.
Actually, I think I did see Iron Monkey.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
04:20:03 PM
I forget.
I remember I saw BROTHERHOOD OF THE WOLF
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
04:20:59 PM
What does that have to do with anything?
But, Top, as long as they're fantasies
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
04:28:36 PM
Nothing to worry about.

Everybody experiments in college.


by Cobra--Kai
Jun 25th, 2009
04:30:02 PM
Conti, what happened in the Baleback 'stays' in the Baleback.
Sorry Cobra. I broke the first and second rule of the Baleback
by Continentalop
Jun 25th, 2009
04:35:55 PM
I also broke the third rule "Always wear protection."
Jackson does not exist in this dojo
by Cobra--Kai
Jun 25th, 2009
04:43:13 PM
Fuck, is Michael Jackson dead???

Local broadcaster KABC has said the 50-year-old singer was taken by ambulance to the UCLA Medical Center.

The Los Angeles Times has reported he was not breathing when paramedics arrived at his home.

The paramedics performed CPR and took him to the medical centre, the newspaper says. No further details were available.

That'd be like Michael Jackson.
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
04:47:32 PM
trying to up-stage farrah.

The Hulk killed Michael Jackson! I told Ferrigno not to force that freak to curl with 5 lb 'bells!

Can you imagine?

Public mourning goes meta as millions weep over an alleged pedophile.

Fingers crossed!!!!
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
04:49:15 PM
Michael Jackson also upstages Carradine
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
04:54:15 PM
by dying with a little kid's mouth wrapped around his genitals insteasd of a rope.

Had to type it before DGDB did.

This TB is now a preview for the Oscars...
by The Dum Guy
Jun 25th, 2009
04:56:29 PM
When they have the montage of all the film makers who have died in the last year.
Paramedics at the scene say
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
05:00:28 PM
"Jackson never got his color back."

Brilliant joke courtesy stuntcock from the Farrah Fawcett thread.

Would they include Jackson in the obituary montage?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
05:17:59 PM
Just because of The Wiz? Really?
"...include films that the general public thinks are deserving"
by Big Jim
Jun 25th, 2009
06:03:41 PM
Hear me now and believe me later, New Moon will be nominated for Best Picture.
If they really want to boost the TV audience...
by Dr. Strangelove
Jun 25th, 2009
07:08:20 PM
...just remove all the red carpet, pre-show coverage. All the viewers who are only interested in celebrity fashion would then have to watch the actual award ceremony to see what people are wearing. It's the 24 hour media coverage that is diluting the Oscars, not the number of nominees.
So does that mean...
by Dazzler69
Jun 25th, 2009
07:53:57 PM
10 casts of movies at the same time? Seating would be nuts.
I'll say again, the general public
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 25th, 2009
08:45:23 PM
are not memebers of the Academy, so fuck whatever they think is deserving.
Hey
by Weapon M
Jun 25th, 2009
10:22:52 PM
Can someone say watered down?!
10 movies...
by Squadoosh
Jun 26th, 2009
12:08:22 AM
I haven't seen 1 good one yet...we always talk about movies being deserving, well now were ganna have so many b.s. pity nods its not even funny...way to go academy, your totally going to encourage thoughtful film making...it makes me fucking sick
I rarely see 10 movies a year anymore
by lockesbrokenleg
Jun 26th, 2009
03:18:23 AM
Maybe 3 or 4. I can wait for shit like Friday the 13th Part 1,000 on DVD anyway.
In the "We did not think this through department"
by growltiger
Jun 26th, 2009
02:33:26 PM
So it appears the powers that be will add rules so that the winner did not have just 10% + 1 of the vote.

For the sake of argument, assume that there are something like 5800 voting members. So, as is, the winner could be decided by 581 votes. A vert tight coterie of voters could decide the victor.

I read in Variety that the Best Song nominations will be based on accumulated vote totals. So although there can be a maximum of five nominees, each of those nominees must have received at least one first place rating on the ballot. Maybe they will do something similar for the Best Picture category where there is a minimum of three and a maximum of ten, or what have you.

So it is an industry show and, really, the chips should be allowed to fall where they may and the victors should thank whomever they think is deserving of thanks. But the specter of a radically split vote deciding THEIR winner must hang over their heads.

Full disclosure
by growltiger
Jun 26th, 2009
02:36:39 PM
I enjoyed both Shakespeare in Love AND Crash and had no issues with them winning. (At heart I am an Angeleno so the movie struck home with me.) So there.

What were the five nominees this year, again?
by Subtitles_Off
Jun 27th, 2009
01:11:41 PM
Before you Google. I was stymied at three.
Animated Pixar Award
by candafilm
Jun 29th, 2009
02:58:39 PM
The day you need more than 3 slots for Best Animated Picture, is the day Pixar makes more than 3 movies in a year.
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