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Thanks for the words of warning AICN guys. If I end up seeing this at all, it will be via a Netflix rental.

And they never go back to Cybertron. I'm pretty sure The Fallen and the Decepticons' base was on the dark side of Saturn, or one of its moons. Nothing there suggested Cybertron.

And I'm sure we saw Mikaela's dad *walk* out of the garage before her cyberdate with Sam.

Honestly, were you playing on your phone the whole time or something? Not trying to be insulting, but that's a lot of mistakes you just made.

Commenting on the former, the writers of this sight must truly be out of the cultural loop if they aren't aware that there exist in America individuals who act like Mudflap and Skids. And trust me, it's NOT just black people: I'm currently working and temporarily residing in a fairly poor rural part of the south that has white, black, and hispanic guys displaying these "idiosyncracies."

http://tinyurl.com/ltkctn

More importantly, it means nothing if you can't see a fucking thing and THAT is what people are complaining about, not that there's too much.

"OMG! -- So, I saw the movie with my friend Britney cuz Ashley got a C+ in Algebra and her parents are like totally strict and wouldn't let her go and I thought Shia was sooooo cute in this one that I would totally let him kiss me and I don't know why people are hating on this movie cuz it has "racial sterrotypes" like I've never met a black person but I see them on TV and some of them talk really funny and I don't know what was going on all the time, but why can't I turn off my brain for 2 1/2 hours cuz I'm like always thinking and I have a 2.9 gpa and I just wanted to be enteretained and I totally was so all you haters should go make your own movie!"

Pure comedy gold. Well done.

This movie is for fools.

Don't talk about well adjusted humans if you've never met any.

And isn't it about time our 12-second attention-span brains came up with a new term to replace "haters"? That's as played out as tacking on a "NOT!" at the end of a comment that's supposed to be ironic.

I respectfully suggest that we start using "dislikers".

(see what I did there? genius!)

Ponder that for a while, I'm gonna go get a soda.

New to this site, I take it?

Congrats on the upcoming kid, Bono. May your first child be a masculine child. Unless it's a girl.

Were Mudflap and Skidmark decent role models for your kids? Better yet, was the writing good or was it merely lazy stereotype jokes in place of actual character?

Were all 42 featured robots really given diverse and unique characteristics to single themselves out?

Do the farting/leg humping/parachute shit scenes actually add anything or even make the slightest bit of sense? (What the fuck does a robot gain from humping a humans leg??)

I remember when popcorn movies had decent writing, actors, and stories and didn't have to be qualified with "Well what did you expect, Shakespeare??", the were judged as merely great films for the masses. Unfortunately the masses nowadays seem intent with staring vacantly at the screen while shiny things move around and big noises blow your face off.

Where's the likes of Jaws, T2, Robocop, Predator, Die Hard etc? Popcorn movies that don't insult their audience, that could deliver a great premise with snappy dialogue and characters that meant something? Instead now it's a series of cliche' sound-bites fired off between explosions with little to no thought as to what the fuck any of it is trying to achieve.

The apologists need to realise that just because something is popular and makes money, it doesn't mean it's good. Shakespeare?? Fuck that, I hated Shakespeare at school and still do, I just want a character I can relate to in some way, not a thinly drawn parody of a character. Popularity is no means of identifying a quality film, no matter how many times apologists trot out BO numbers. No one doubts this will make big money, but it certainly doesn't deserve it.

Why should people accept that guys like Bay don't seem to want to try to raise to that level, merely content with making the FX better? Why not dispense with plot and character building altogether and just have a 2 1/2 hour reel of FX shots? That, I feel would suit Mr Bay down to the ground the way he's heading - too far up his own ass.

Quote from Shia's character: "Looks fake".

Pretty much sums it up right?

Now, it was hard enough following the "plot" of this movie sober, but these numskulls were utterly flabbergasted at what was happening on screen. And then the one dude who wasn't passed out started freaking out about the dude who was passed out. Hilarious.

Oh and as for that Decepticon fembot, surely a robot that sophisticated would render all the others obsolete? I mean, she's to the regular transformers what the T-1000 is to the basic terminator endoskeleton right?.

The fact that a robot like her exsists should be a big deal in this movie but for Michael Bay it's just an excuse to have another hot girl in the film and to shoehorn in a Terminator style chase sequence even though it makes no sense.

What if it was another movie though? One that maybe not so many people had seen? Don't you have a duty to make sure your facts are correct? There are so many mistakes in this review it's ridiculous!

It started off, with the AICN Downunder guy, calling the movie "Rise of the Fallen" & it's continued, to this, then Harry's review where he wanted to back up his Star Trek buddies Orci & Kurtzman, so invented a rumour that it was another guy's fault. Then Orci basically said it was bullshit & he was to blame.

How are we supposed to believe a fucking word said here?

I first noticed it, when Harry write about the potential Oldboy remake & used it to do his customary bragging, about how he was the first Westerner to review it.

The trouble is, I was the first westerner to review it. So I called him out on it & was ignored. I let it go. But since then, there are so many of these things...

The Bale incident is just one example, with Harry's infamous "I'm in a place where another person is that isn't where I am but was" bullshit. The one where I found an interview on U.K yahoo, which had exactly the same quotes as this "Insider" he'd supposedly talked to. It turned out to be "Shut the fuck up Bruce", publicly backing Bale. On Yahoo UK. Not to Harry. To the world.

Then there's the Wolverine debacle..

Now he's saying "well the rumour is, it was Ehren Kruger" (speeling?). So Bob Orci comes on here, says "Thanks for trying to defend me, but basically, you're full of shit." Not in those exact words, but you get my drift.

THis place is full of fucking fantasists. Love the TBs, but apart frokm that, I've pretty much had enough.

The Decepticons are on the run after the events of the first movie, out of power and near death, with their hopes of spawning future generations resting on the acquisition of a new energy source.

Megatron's master, The Fallen - one of seven Primes who in the past sought out suns orbiting worlds without life to drain out the power for the Transformer empire - hates humans and has been working out a revenge scheme to take down the Primes and destroy humanity once and for all. That's why Megatron in Part 1 was looking for the Cube (among other reasons) - to get a hold of a map that would tell The Fallen where his six brethren hid the Matrix of Leadership - a key required to activate the giant sun-destroying cannon that The Fallen's coup attempt to take control of in the past.

With the Cube destroyed after Part 1, Sam gets a hold of a piece of it from his old outfit he was wearing when the Cube splintered, and it tells him the map location for the Matrix.

The Deceptions find out about this and set about trying to find Sam. Fighting ensues. Things come to a head at the location of the cannon, where Optimus defeats both Megatron and The Fallen. The End, Wow - that was tough!

Personally, I think that both Transformers movies have good points and bad, ultimately putting them into a category of films that I enjoy, but do not highly regard. Yeah, I rolled my eyes more than once last night, but the fun far exceeded the "Bay"-fuddlement. Having seen the first Transformers, I knew what to expect from a sequel. Anyone who thinks that any sequel is going to be night-and-day better than the original is kidding themselves, especially when the same man is at the helm.

Because I was under the impression that Cybertron was pretty much destroyed because of civil war.

Holy shit, that's perfect...

I'm going to see this in less than an hour. I enjoyed the first one but didn't see the point in a sequel. Now after reading all the hate, the PASSIONATE hate against this movie, there is no way I am missing this on the big screen.

I'm also going because I want to see if I'm out of step with the rest of you guys. Although most of the guys here have a broad knowledge of movies, I wonder how many actually ENJOY THEMSELVES at a movie.

I read massive hate against Star Trek and that was one of the best films I'd seen in a long time. Then last night I read some dude tell Bob Orci off and call him a hack on this very site, and it was really disturbing.

So I'm going to see TF2 now. I am not expecting anything more than a good time. If I have a good time, it was a success. If not, it was a fail. I am not tricking myself into thinking I'm seing Citizen Kane or Star Wars.

Saw the movie, and I am glad to say I still have the capacity to experience pleasure that many of the TB'ers have lost.

I thought the humor was great and was surprised it was so edgy.... I thought most of the jokes worked well. I thought there was massive over-reaction to the "Twins" who were obviously there to be the new characters kids would fall in love with and it worked. It wasn't racist. They were speaking hip hop, just like any wigger these days would.

some of the humor did shock me though, the dogs fucking, Shia's mom saying she'd do anything for an A while stoned, the transformer testicles, John Tuturros ass... I think they were trying to make this a movie that appealed to everyone and I think they were thinking "hip, edgy shouth park fans" as well. There really was something for everyone. Again, I think all the parts with the "humans" were funny, engaging, I enjoyed seeing these characters again.

It was too long, and yeah it was hard to follow the plot but that's what DVD is for. Unfortunately, just like the last one, it was difficult to distinguish not only which robot was fighting which, but what vehicle they were supposed to have transformed from. It would have helped if there were more slo-mo scenes of the actual transformations happening.

But all in all, the time flew by for me, I was impressed by the more adult "south parkish" humor, all the different robots were interesting, it was a definitely a fun experience. Good for what it was.

And to all the TB'ers who are having difficulty functioning in life because they disliked the movie, remember, this movie is geared towards younger kids who want to buy the toys, and it's a movie about cars that become robots.

T:ROTF > T:S > Wolverine, therefore this summer blows. Logic is FUN!!!

Can't see how if you liked the first one, you'd not like this. Huey and Lewey were a hit, to be honest, the jug ears and gold teeth were kinda unfortunate, but then watching Christian Bale about shit his pants w/ every word in Terminator IV(which I liked, by the way) was too.

Big Robots Hitting Each Other Once More. Make another Mikey. We're ready.