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AICN Dedicated Talkback: TRANSFORMERS Rolls Out!!

first by Ironhelix	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:56:21 PM

first by BurkeCarterJ	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:56:27 PM
who is Michael Baye?
looks like shit, but i'll probably see it anyway. one of the dow by Ironhelix	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:57:35 PM

FUCK MICHAEL BAY! by FuckMichaelBay	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:57:52 PM
FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
FUCK MICHAEL BAY! by FuckMichaelBay	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:58:06 PM
FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
FUCK MICHAEL BAY! by FuckMichaelBay	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:58:15 PM
FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
downsides to having kids, is what it was supposed to say... by Ironhelix	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:58:21 PM

May all of you who have let this piece of shit disgrace your eye by FuckMichaelBay	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:58:53 PM
...you were forewarned.
searching rapidshare as we type by liquids	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:58:57 PM
Fuck Bay.
"you've heard what Fatboy... not Harry" by ZombieHeathLedger	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:59:00 PM
D'oh!! Fuckin' zing. Isn't Harry like, your boss, Merrick?
balls... by FuckMichaelBay	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:59:15 PM

Fuck this movie by HBO	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:59:43 PM
I'm seeing it today.
Horrible... by loafroaster	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:59:53 PM
More of the same shit from the first; incoherent action sequences and piss-poor acting and writing. If this is the future of cinema, count me the fuck out.
Why by evolution1085	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:00:19 PM

"Why Does Michael Bay get to Keep on Making Movies?" by evolution1085	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:01:04 PM
I guess Pearl Harbor sucks... just a little bit more than I missed you...
Oh Dear by subfreq	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:01:24 PM
European press said it was a July 4th release in the US and the film would be modified. It's going to get a mauling if the version I saw isn't shortened.
So yeah, no thanks. by OGoncho	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:04:31 PM
Think I'll go see Year One.
No Avatar clips online by Trannyformers_Apologist	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:08:18 PM
3 full scenes from Avatar were shown at Fox's presentation today at Cinema Expo. -This may be obvious, but Fox has confirmed they will not be releasing the clips online, as that "is not how one should be experiencing it."
Is there ANY chance only those who have by DeCypher44	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:09:12 PM
seen this will comment in this talkback? Nope? Damn!
Warning from Britain... by foxthebloodied	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:10:27 PM
Do not repeat our folly! Avoid this like the plague! Approximately 5 minutes of cool robot fights do not justify the torture of the unfunny jokes, shocking racial stereotypes and chronic idiocy, and I say this as a man who likes Michael Bay movies!
Fatboy compares Transformers to cake by Heckles	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:13:10 PM
Maybe he should start using Jenny Craig analogies. Star Trek was no cupcake, sir.
Transformers gravest sin...it bored me by aclockworkkebab	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:17:05 PM
giant robots fighting and megan fox been just a goddess, do you know how bad a movies has to be make that combination utterly dull, when i realised that the movie wasnt ending after 90 mins and that it was likely there was almost another hour left i just thought how much money did they p$%£ away on this waste of my time...Megan fox wasnt enough to hold my attention!!! avoid this movie
Megan Fox is still hot when she wants to be by Anal Inflictor	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:17:34 PM
when she isn't tanning to a crips. But judging from watching her appearance at the VMA's she is a first class cuntslap. I would still fuck her ass into oblivion with lewd abandon, but get down off your high horse, cunt. You are fucking Brian Austin Green, which is on par with gangbanging Richard Grieco, Dustin Diamond, and Fred Durst. When you hit 30 and all that tanning takes its toll I will still fuck your ass with relish, but I will first pee in your face and finish in your mouth Max Hardcore style.
there shouldn't be a talkback for people who saw TF2 by RaveX	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:18:42 PM
there should be support groups instead.
Turdformers 2 by droids22	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:18:52 PM
I wanna know how long Harry clenched his turd for this movie!
5 minutes of Robot fights? GTFO!!! by ganymede3010	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:21:37 PM
Why do people have lie about a movie because they don't like it?
Still seeing it by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:24:37 PM
Not surprised it doesn't have a story. The cartoons never did.
the black and white transformers minstrel show by aclockworkkebab	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:25:09 PM
i forgot to mention the two most intentionally offensive characters ive ever seen...how did that get past anyone, that was almost unforgivable. i laughed in shocked embarrassment, i assume it was just a bad miscalculation rather than that Bay hired a white Millitant to do a rewrite, am i right in thinking this movie isnt out in the US yet...seriously trust your British Cousins this is sooo bad avoid!
WHERE'S THE ED MCMAHON TALKBACK? by eoneon	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:25:43 PM
FUCK TRANSFORMERS! RIP ED,YOU WILL BE MISSED. THANKS FOR THE LAUGHS
I'll probably have to put this thing together tonite... by The Dum Guy	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:29:43 PM
And, I might watch it, or I'll wait till tommorow, or the next day, or never...
I hope I like this by dgeer80	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:30:53 PM
I loved the first movie. I hope the second one is just as good, if not better. The reviews aren't looking good though...
Go see Terminator instead people by Jedibobster	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:33:24 PM
I know several people who have seen it, here in the UK, and each and everyone of them says TERMINATOR SALVATION is the better film. So if you haven't then go SEE that one. Cos I want a McG Terminator 5 much more than a Transformers 3.
Instead of seeing Transformers 2 by ballyhoo	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:35:00 PM
I just poked myself in the eye.
WACKY ROBOT HIJINKS: THE MOVIE by BMacSmith	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:36:50 PM
You want robots fighting? tough luck loser! you get CAR CAR BINKS!
At least the majority of the reviews... by The Dum Guy	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:38:11 PM
have been entertaining.
hours of Bay "humor" for 5 mins of Robot fights ??? by G100	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:38:50 PM
I don't think so. One for DVD and the FF button.
Bay is Uwe with a budget by BMacSmith	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:39:17 PM
though Boll does get big budgets because of German tax right offs or something, so maybe not. As shitty and worthless as Michael Bay is, he's still no Uwe.
Which stereotype will be used to "comedic" effect in Transformer by ColonelFatheart	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:40:55 PM
Will there be a "yellow" Asian (modeled on a boxy, old Toyota or Honda, perhaps?) decepticon with buck teeth and slanted eyes who talks like Charlie Chan?
To quote Jay Sherman: by Larry of Arabia	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:46:36 PM
It Stinks! "Ok, I haven't actually seen it yet but all signs point to this."
Overall...shite... :-( by moobit	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:49:04 PM
I'm in the UK and saw this on opening like a muppet. To be fair,you do all need to see it (maybe rent) and make your own minds up becasue the privious reviewers/TBers have been overly harsh to put the point across, but when I realised that I was starting to get bored watching giant fing robots doing crazy shit (at least I think they were-hard to tell with all the shakey cam work) I firstly checked my pulse, and then started to glance around the cinema to see if everyone else looked bored or was it just me? And you know what? Everyone else looked the same way! Don't get me wrong-there are some good scenes in the film- The Forrest fight, SOME of the comedy (NOT car-car Binks-what the heck were they thinking??!?), and my G1 childhood geeked out at the sight of the Matrix of Leadership, and at the scenes between Megatron/Starscream on the Fallens spaceship(?) because a film called Transformers actually had some charactorisation of the TRANSFORMERS (cliched as the lines were), without any bumbling humans knocking around! But there were too many negatives methinks (you'll read these in everyone else's reviews I'm willing to bet). Such a shame really-how can you get bored watching giant fighty robots???!? Huh???!? Does not compute??! But it happened... Oh well, we'll always have Orson Wells... Now THERE'S a thought....
This Movie Blew Chunks...Chunks is my dog! by swedishero	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:51:38 PM
I saw this shitpile of a movie last night and I walked out speechless. I really liked the first movie and I wanted to love this one...Sadly my excitement was short lived. It seems like Michael Bay thought he could get away with throwing in every single sequel cliche and get away with it...He does not! This movie was solely an exercise in inflating Bay's already enormous ego. He even has Shia painting on a BAD BOYS II poster for Fucks Sake! I mean how self indulgent can you possibly be? and why BAD BOYS II. is it because he knows people are gonna hate this movie as much as they hated the Bad Boys sequel and this is his way of trying to suggest, "Hey this was all done on purpose, I was trying to show the audience that if I just spend 2 1/2 hours blowing shit up people will still love it! No matter how incomprehensible or mindnumbingly dull EVERY single character is!" I think he brings in something like 20 new decepticons and 6 new autobots and we never get a sense of who the hell these characters are and what purpose they serve. And lets not forget the glaring plot holes. I'm not gonna get into spoilers but to give you an idea of how little they thought through this movie Lets think for a second...Motorcycle autobots...awesome. Motorcycle autobots in a desert...fucking brain dead. When has anyone...EVER seen a motorcycle work in sand? Saying they are magical alien motorcycle tires is not an excuse...
BIGGEST FUCKING PILE OF SHIT EVER by photoboy	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:52:10 PM
Next time hire a director who won't ruin the classic designs, disregard the Transformers as the main characters and ignore all the back story. FUCK YOU BAY.
I hated the first but can't wait for this. by Kid Idioteque	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:53:20 PM
Apparently this new one is the kind of film that creates a stink on your clothes that you can't get off for weeks. But I'll wear it out like one of those stupid "I Voted" stickers. I will tell everyone I see. It will be the source of great conversation for the rest of the summer. Actually sitting through this monstrosity = permanent bragging rights. BRING IT ON.
ROBOT ON ROBOT OH YAH!!! by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:55:33 PM
Who doesn't want to see that?!
JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF by BMacSmith	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:57:57 PM
just willfully become mentally retarded and its good. actually everything is good when you turn your brain off. Shitting your pants is good when you turn your brain off.
SPOILER!!! There's a TRANSFORMING TWIST at the end of this one! by Xxplosive	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:58:31 PM
Megan Fox is really a Transgender! Take that Shyamalan!
Utter shite... by The Edges Hat	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:01:54 PM
Like one of the previous posts said...it was just so dull! But even more gobsmackingly pish was spoiler alert..Sleepy LaBeef "dies" and visits Transformer heaven ...I shit you not! That has to be seen to be believed. Also, was that a university or the Playboy Mansion?? Transformers : Jobbies in Disguise
The College whore trying to get with Shia by AlwaysThere	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:02:36 PM
Is a transformer? get the fuck out.
SPOILER MEGATRON is really . . . . . IRON MAN! by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:06:25 PM
HOLY SHUT!!!
You just have to ask yourself one question if you're thinking ab by midgarddragon	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:06:35 PM
Do you really want to waste your time arguing with a bunch of ignorant fanboys with dicks up their asses and no sense of humor and/or fun? Nope? Yeah, me either, time to ignore the losers and just enjoy a good time at the movies.
geek rage!!!!! by SylarTheCylon	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:07:27 PM
save your money for avatar instead
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE AVATAR STORY by batman713	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:07:39 PM
I want a TB (not the disease mind you) for AVATAR. Fucking Cameron just showed footage at Cine Expo. Let's stop talking about devastator's balls damnit!
Saw it yesterday by puzzledman69	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:09:11 PM
This film pisses me off. The forest scene is cool, shows Prime being a complete bad ass. Devastator, minus the balls is pretty good too, though a bit too easy to kill in my opinion, just seems like they couldn't work out what to do with a 200 foot tall robot once they had one. My main problem with this film is Optimus aside, all the Autobots featured were complete incompitent fuckwits and nowhere near as cool as the decepticons. The evil robots are all huge, menacing and intelligent whereas the autobots just call each other names and trip over each others feet. I know this is a kids movie and the source material wasn't exactly fucking shakespeare but i would just like to see a Tranformers film, not 'The muppets take Egypt'
thats right, midgarddragon! TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF by BMacSmith	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:11:03 PM
Look on the bright side of life and smile while Michael Bay shits in your mouth! let go of petty things like standards! Never mind that robots could be fighting in a better movie. if you hate on Bayformers, its because YOU HATE EVERY MOVIE EVER MADE AND HAVE DICKS UP YOUR ASS! there is no other explanation!
I don't get it, why this talkback? by drompter	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:14:04 PM
No one here is gonna watch Transformers 2 with all of the hatred that has been spilled out. Or are you trying to say that AICN talkbackers are hypocrites...
Give Michael Bay a TRIPOD!!!! King Kong 1933 kicks his ARSE! by Dolmes	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:16:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =5hgOgPvlu5A
DUNG. by DarthCorleone	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:18:48 PM
That is all.
Bay's fans think bad reviews are good by Trannyformers_Apologist	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:19:02 PM
"BTW, this movie is pissing off film critics. It's down to 30% at Rotten Tomatoes.....High five!!!! " http://tinyurl.com/n2zpzg
Like having acid laced jizz spunked in your eyes for 2 and a hal by Kingoftheprawnmen	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:19:23 PM
Be warned before taking that hard earned cash out of your wallet and giving your vote of confidence to stupid fucking movies that have plots that makes no sense, that are more boring than watching piss dry on a toliet, that are blatantly racist (you might as well have had the Twins picking cotton out of the Buffs arsehole) and is an assult on the eyes like acid laced jizzed spunked in your eyes for 2 and a half hours by the worlds largiest cock! I had no idea what the fuck was fighting what 90% of the time as it's just like someone throwning 100,000's of nuts and bolts at you and then punched you in the ears (I was blind for almost 5 hours after walking out), characters appear and disappear for no reason, it's full of jokes taken from 1980's fart gag books, the Fallen is a pussy, the "end" maga fight lasts 30 minutes and fizzles out like a runny shit from a old mans arse, the there is the Buff...............I think his run has just ended, no more with the skid along the floor and shouting "noooooooooooooooo!". And that's just the tip of the shiteberg. This is Batman and Robin in a tumble dryer full of shit. Enough already.
Why does anybody care? by Baryonyx	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:19:45 PM
It's based on a range of toys.
28% percent on RT and Falling = Harry will love this by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:23:48 PM
He'll use things like "yeah..but fuck it.." and "So what" and "I felt like I was 12 watching it..and that's ok" in his glowing review
Saw the first one... by andyny29	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:25:03 PM
that's two hours of my life I'll never get back. Needless to say i will not be seeing this one. 2012 looks more interesting to me.
I am scared to see this movie.... by Nuking the Fridge	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:25:24 PM
I hear so many people talking shit about this movie. Just a bunch of people complaining about how bad it sucks.
The "turn your brain off" argument... by Captain Katanga	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:25:42 PM
AKA the "its not meant to win Oscars" argument AKA the "its not meant to be Shakespeare" argument needs to be PUT TO SLEEP, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, I'm fucking sick of hearing it. To anyone even THINKING of using it, let me ask you this: Do you SERIOUSLY think that the people criticising Transformers 2 are doing so because they were hoping for an Oscar standard film? Did you have to check your brain at the door/turn your brain off when you watched Star Trek, or The Dark Knight, or Casino Royale? No? Then stop bending over backwards to defend this piece of shit. All people are asking for is an engaging storyline, characters you care about, humour that isn't of the pathetic toilet variety, and genuine thrills. This film is terrible, and you deserve better. That said, if ALL you want from a film is good special effects, if thats the only thing you care about, then by all means pay your money, and sit in the front row honking and clapping your hands together like a fucking sea lion. And afterwards, go and rent Norbit, because that has Eddie Murphy playing a FATTY! Lmao! You're welcome!
The one thing i apprecdiated by Darkocity	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:28:22 PM
Is that you could actually tell what the fuck was going on with the giant robot fights; and it was stunning special effects design. Well, 2/3rds of the time. Being a movie under huge pressure to market toys, be 'bigger, better' than previously; and a writers strike (wiki) dictating script focus matched to Bays sensibilities i guess are the main culprits.
where is AVATAR!?! plus Transformers 2 is horrible, save your mo by DrPain	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:30:39 PM
seriously, no Avatar trailer yet??
Transmorphers by NinjaChampion	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:32:49 PM
Was it better than Transmorphers?
Suddenly TERM SAL looks like a masterpiece by Derek Wildstarr	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:35:27 PM
Just rewatched Transformers 1. I wasn't really feeling a single second of it.
Saw it in the UK last week by huskerdu2	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:35:29 PM
It's inept on almost every conceivable level. From the gay dogs, the annoying 'improv' parents, the leg shagging robots, the giant bollocks of Devastator, the drawn out fight in the desert, the subtle pro-military/anti-Obama schtick, the 'oh-so-topical' swine flu gag. But sin of sins, it's fucking boring. It has no pace, no narrative drive, no characters (either human or transformer) that you have any interest in and absolutely no excitement. Stuff just happens. Even the effects look worse this time around, mainly 'cos they insist on shooting 75% of the action in broad fucking daylight. But bottom line: the reason why this and Terminator Salvation have all plumbed the depths of incompetence is that - because to the writers strike - their scripts were clearly written on the back of an envelope about 5 minutes before a particular scene was shot.
It's equal parts awesome... by Gil Brooks	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:35:39 PM
...as it is terrible.
A sentence I never thought I'd type... by The Edges Hat	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:36:51 PM
McG kicked Bay's arse. I really enjoyed Terminator...there were a few things I thought were a bit dodgy but it was a thoroughly enjoyable popcorn movie. ROTF just made me sleepy and wonder if Megan Fox can walk the length of herself without striking a pose :)
I'll say it again- I enjoyed it by D.Vader	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:38:11 PM
Liked the Steve Buscemi-bot a lot.
of course... by huskerdu2	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:39:59 PM
...the end of my post looks like it was written under the same strike induced conditions as TF2 and T4. Oh, well...
I don't agree... by Flames gotta Eat	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:48:55 PM
with those that say this is one is the same with the first. In my opinion Fallen is worse. I did find some charm in the first one, and I thought there was better buildup to the action and more excitement in the overall tone of the film. In Fallen everything lays flat, from the action to the "comedy". Nothing has an impact on you. The forest scene is slightly cool but as another reviewer brought up, the V-Rex threesome in Jackon's Kong is far and away better. And yes it's based on a toy and yes I even wanted more robot on robot action in this one, but I didn't want it this way. It's horribly shot, horribly confusing and horribly boring. I want exciting, well done, clear action with some god damn emotional weight behind it. Just because it's based on a toy and a mediocre cartoon we're supposed to have sub-zero standards? The fact that it's getting a big screen treatment automatically raises the standards. I want my $12 worth when I sit down in that theatre seat. I don't want to regret that 2 hours like I just did last night.
Avatar. by Briannicus	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:53:14 PM
All you geeks drooling over it, please shut the fuck up about it, all this advanced buzz from you douchebags is making me NOT want to see it.
Harry won't give it a glowing review... by Logan_1973	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:54:37 PM
His mind was made up as soon as the Aussie review came in. Besides, he didn't get to visit the set and impress folk with some obscure film mention...
Man, I can't wait to come home later tonight by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:55:09 PM
and see this thread explode.
Briannicus by huskerdu2	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:57:06 PM
I'm sort of in agreement with you on that, mate. It may change my life, it might not. But if it's merely decent and not eye-fuckingly awesome or eye-scouringly bad, does that then mean it 'sucks' by default? I'm confused as to what way I should jump...
Did Bay and Spielberg watch the final cut of this by IndyCollector	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:01:17 PM
And honestly laugh at the so-called "comedy" in it? Farting robots, jock-strap-clad Tuturro, leg-humping robots, humping dogs, Tuturro just hamming it up, the annoying "comic relief" roommate, the overly emotional mom (who I thought was given too much screen time), the jive-talking Suckahbots. NONE of it is funny.
Spielberg is to blame by Relugus	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:05:12 PM
Tom DeSanto and Don Murphy are working on a Transformers film. DeSanto has took the time to watch the cartoons and read all the Transformers comics so he knows the source material. DeSanto and Murphy even consult Simon Furman. Then in comes Spielberg (whose knowledge of TF is based solely on his kids having the toys and him seeing bits of the cartoon), says it should not be about sentient robots, says "lets make it about a boy and his car" (ie the robot is his "pet"). Having already displayed his ignorance of the Transformers concept, Spielberg then decides to hire Michael Bay. Bay is not interested and knows nothing about TF, but Spielberg persuaded Bay to do the film, even knowing Bay was ignorant of the concept. Spielberg's first question when interviewing directors should have been "do you like the concept of Transformers? Which are your favourite characters?" Characterisation is actually central to the Transformers concept; Bob Budiansky envisioned the Transformers as "everymen", anthropomorphic pastiches of humans. Transformers without characterisation of the robots is not Transformers. The whole point is that they are sentient, and alot of the pathos and humour comes from how like us they are. The emphasis on the human characters is insulting, because it is based on the assumption we cannot empathise with the robots, even though the cartoon and comics clearly proved that we can. The wealth of characters and stories they have to draw on is immense and any filmmaker with passion and imagination could come up with something amazing. In particular the religious subtext of Transformers lore, surrounding Primus, is pure dynamite for any intelligent writer. The idea of robots, created by a God in his image (and I'd add that Primus, in one of the comic's most subversive twists, does not care much about his creations...imagine how the Christian fundies would react to THAT in a blockbuster movie) is a pretty amazing one because it challenges alot of our perception of robots and ourselves. I'll bet you Spielberg would have shot down any attempt to make a smart TF movie. But Spielberg could not give a shit about that, he wants a dumb TF movie, to fund his vanity projects and Oscar bids.
Let's not. by FlickaPoo	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:07:21 PM

TF2 makes me puke (Michael Bay too) by Fenrisulfr	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:14:55 PM

Bay made $US80 mill from the 1st Transformers film by BDuncan	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:38:34 PM
Bay (like Spielberg) must have had a lucrative back end deal on the cinema and DVD profits from the 1st Transformers film and probably also this one as well, as he made 80 mill from the 1st film. He's also privately blasted Paramount for being too arrogant about the poor marketing of Transformers ROTF in his view.
Relugus - Well said.. by BRUTICUS	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:44:11 PM
I agree with the Transformers sentiments...except I don't blame Spielberg, i blame BAY. Bay brought on the new writers and had the idea to make it about a Boy and his car, to focus on the humans, etc..
see how BAY preemptively is claiming he's "done with transformer by Six Demon Bag	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:49:39 PM
did he know that it was shit?
Tell me Bay is done with movies. by Subtitles_Off	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:59:45 PM
Only then will I be happy.
BRUTICUS by Logan_1973	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:02:23 PM
Wrong. Spielberg told him to make it about "a boy and his car" This time around Stevie took the shackles off...
Should the emphasis be on 'bots or humans? by Logan_1973	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:04:31 PM
That seems to be the real debate here.
Sorry, Bay. I'm not paying for this one. by KillDozer	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:04:33 PM

you know the trailers almost had me fooled... by theneonsamurai	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:05:36 PM
..but it looks like i'll be skipping this one. the biggest problem i had with the first one was that i couldn't fucking tell what was going on. micheal bay is all explosions. it's like watching 2.5 hours of facials
One of the worst movies ever made... by Herb West	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:12:00 PM
Here is my review. www.mymavra.com Under no circumstances should anyone pay to see this movie. Everyone needs to boycott this piece of shit and tell others to do the same.
I new a transformer once..dude looked like a lady! by Hasselhoffflying	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:20:19 PM
Transformers:Revenge of the Schlong
Do we get to see Cybertron in this one? by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:36:56 PM
At the end of the first one, Starscream flies back to Cybertron.
Warning from the UK by Tymanasaurus	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:38:29 PM
This is the most offensive thing i have ever seen. Avoid it at all costs. Please do not see this utter piece of shit. Not unless you want John Turtleheads ARSE & Devastators nads in your face whilst you get humped by a rat- dog & a radio controlled car & a coffee maker shoots at you with his cock gun. Its already too late for us but YOU can kill this thing.
Damn You Michael Bay by MediaGold	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:38:39 PM
Well, someone had to type it...
Saw it AND...... by snoosnoo_the_panda	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:39:29 PM
Worst two and a half hours i've had to fucking sit through.
It's SHIT by kafka07	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:41:20 PM
that's all I need to say.
The action is actually very nice this time around. by GandalfTW	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:42:04 PM
I pretty much hated the first one, coz I couldnt ever tell what was happening in the action sequences. This time I really enjoyed it. Mostly because I thought the action was done nicely. You can easily follow the action. The fights are great. This movie isnt a movie you need to think too much about. Its story is actually comprehensible, but ofcourse can be picked apart if you do think too much about how it all fits together. However, this movie is for the kids, and in that regard it works really well. Ill bet the kids will love it. If you want a really well written movie that compells you to think about your life or that makes you think deep and hard about the universe and everything in it and how it all connects, this movie was never meant for you. If you want 2½ hours of robot on robot fist fighting with humans losing their lives left and right coz they get in these monsters way, and dont mind the wacky humor that is also in this, then its for you.
Soundwave?? by darthwaz1	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:42:31 PM
Is he in this or what? I know he's supposed to be!
Wow it's a really bad summer for movies by kafka07	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:46:15 PM
We are neck deep in a lake of shit when it comes to the movies out right now. Seriously what the fuck is wrong with Hollywood? Is it a reflection of us somehow, of our society? Is Mike Judge's movie Idiocracy coming to life??
I'll be watching the Russian Cam torrent tonight. by Stuntcock Mike	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:54:33 PM
Megan's cockbulge looks better in the privacy of my living room.
Michael Bay does nothing but shakey cam! by kbarber29	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:55:01 PM
It's how he claims, "I made a 200 million dollar movie for 100"
Ebert is the best by zooch	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:07:27 PM
He basically called the movie biggest piece of shit of all time without actually saying it. Brilliant.
AVA-fucking-TAR footage shown!!!! by Six Demon Bag	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:10:35 PM
bring it to me!!!!
The first movie was brilliant.. by Supermans	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:14:42 PM
I jusy got done watching the movie and I have to agree, it is total crap.. How the hell does Sam's parents end up in Egypyt?? And that is not the only stupid thing in the film. The only scene I liked in the whole film was Optimus fighting three deceptions in slow motion.. That was it.. Nothing else was worth it..
darthwaz1 by Tymanasaurus	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:15:34 PM
Soundwave is in this though he stays in orbit for the whole film & HE DOES NOT HAVE THE COOL VOICE! He sounds like Zordrak now. He does shoot Ravage onto the planet though.
Its Official T:ROTF!! is online and streaming!! by liquids	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:16:06 PM
Do not support this shit!! watch for free!!! I will not post links but if you google right words you will find enjoy. :) Watching this shit as I type.
Captain Katanga by The_Goddamn_Batman	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:20:31 PM
I wish I had handed my brain in at the door before going into Star Trek. Poor example. And I'm not defending Transformers. I haven't seen it. This summer is turning into a fucking bad joke for movies as far as I'm concerned. Every one has let me down. If Avatar is cock, I'm gonna start reading books.
Bad summer for movies. by Orbots Commander	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:22:46 PM
Yeah, tell me about it. When the only bright spots are UP, The Hangover and a so-so Star Trek, the summer movie season stinks. I'm ready to call it a wash, and am already looking forward to the fall and winter release movies, particularly SHUTTER ISLAND and AVATAR.
The parents were kidnapped by Decepticons in Paris by D.Vader	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:26:22 PM
To use as potential leverage against Sam later.
AVATAR FOOTAGE!! by Six Demon Bag	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:26:36 PM
what did harvey dent say? the night is always darkest before the dawn...thank you james...thank you for giving me hope again this weekend.
thanks a lot DVader--you ruined it for me!!! by Six Demon Bag	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:27:49 PM
just kidding i wasnt gonna go...
Briannicus by batman713	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:28:54 PM
Why don't you go juggle devastator's balls in your mouth and stfu.
D'oh! by D.Vader	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:37:23 PM

Since Neither Had the Official Transformers Theme Song by kevinwillis.net	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:42:07 PM
They were both doomed to suck.
Did Hasbro have to make a Michael Bay action figure for this fil by Xxplosive	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:43:43 PM
And I'd bet it comes with cool "Cha-Ching" SFX to let you know this piece of shit means business!
The only "rolling out" this movie is doing... by Thrillhouse77	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:51:53 PM
is similar to how a gigantic shit rolls out of Kirstie Alley's flabby ass cheeks every few hours.
"Turn your brain off" by Thrillhouse77	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:52:56 PM
The only "turning off of my brain" that I would be doing if I was going to find myself sitting through this shit heap is the kind that you get by putting a bullet in it.
"It ain't Shakespeare" by Thrillhouse77	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:53:26 PM
No shit.
"I go to see the explosions" by Thrillhouse77	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:54:44 PM
Why don't you line your own place of residence with C4 and then watch it from the inside?
"Hot chicks, fast cars, explosions..." by Thrillhouse77	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:56:43 PM
Beers. Big dip of chew. Mind-blowing sex with a 15 year old in your room in the frat house.
I mean the 15 year old just tore your ass up. by Thrillhouse77	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:58:50 PM
Transformers II, plus erotic pain unlike ever before. BEST. WEEKEND. EVER.
Things a Transformers film should have by Relugus	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:02:05 PM
1. Strong characterisation of the robots. 2. Portrayal of Autobots and Decepticons as individuals. 3. Big fights between robots. 4. A handful of human characters, but main emphasis should always be on the TFs. Bay sadly only does one of those things.
"Look at how much money it'll make!!!" by Thrillhouse77	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:04:24 PM
20 MILLLLLLION people bought Billy Ray Cyrus' album just because it had ACHY BREAKY HEART on it. You SUUURE you want to stand on that "monetary success" argument?
Relugus... by Thrillhouse77	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:05:12 PM
someone get this man a producing gig on the Transformers reboot. He gets it!
I want a Deaths Head movie by Relugus	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:06:35 PM
Fuck you Marvel, why won't you make a Death's Head movie? (The original DH, not the shitty DH2 crap). Fuck Iron Man, fuck Thor, fuck Captain America, I want Death's Head!
I'm available for a Reboot by Relugus	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:08:18 PM
Give me the call, and I'm there, Don, Tom, Steven.
DarthWaz....you're an idiot. by Briannicus	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:17:37 PM
They got the original voice actor todo soundwave, get your facts straight.
I WON'T BE SEEING THIS SO MY COMMENTS by AyatollahSexyBack	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:20:32 PM
will be purely based on preconceived notions of suckitude and an inextinguishable hatred of all things Bay.
Again I wanna thank all the idiots by Briannicus	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:21:06 PM
Who were responsible for taking money out of James Cameron's pockets. Because of you, I will absolutely and without a shadow of a doubt NOT be seeing Avatar...EVER, I will not even download. Batman713, If "Juggle Devastator's balls in your mouth" is the BEST you can come up with, you NEED to try harder.
Most unnecessary talkback ever? by chaplinatemyshoe	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:22:29 PM
Is there going to be a 2012 or GI Joe talkback next?
It's a stupid assumption by jabbathegriffin	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:33:58 PM
to think that if a person doesn't like Transformers that it was because they were expecting The Seventh Seal. Kinda shows the simplistic thought process of some folks around here.
briannicus by one9deuce	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:39:47 PM
Who gives a shit if you see AVATAR or not. I'm serious, nobody cares. Really. In the 11 years I have been visiting AICN I have never seen such unanimous outrage about the quality of a movie. TRANSFORMERS: ROTF must really really suck.
Leave it to Michael Bay to take the fun out of explosions. by Trannyformers_Apologist	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:44:03 PM

Pearl Harbor Song by SenatorJeffersonSmith	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:47:13 PM
From Team America...was it ever more relevant?
I said it one before..I foresee a theater full of... by conspiracy	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:00:16 PM
Wife beaters, dirty footed 16yr old welfare moms, pimple faced boys with VERY stained Megan Fox posters in their rooms, and miserable guys taking the kids they wished they never had just to get away from the women they wised they had never married.
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don't how people could like the first and hate the second by obi_juan	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:05:09 PM
Haven't seen the movie yet, but all the criticisms fit the first movie as well.
I'M SAVING MY MONEY FOR JOE AND POTTER by AyatollahSexyBack	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:15:13 PM
I will not let Bayformers ruin what has been an excellent summer so far.
uhhh...? by darthwaz1	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:26:53 PM
I'm an idiot for asking if soundwave made the cut? go figure
one9deuce by Briannicus	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:28:18 PM
That's my personsal fuck you to all the uber-geeks who are cyber wanking about a movie that has yet to come out or has displayed anything beyond simple production art. As far as Transformers 2 yeah, yeah...be a mindless sheep and trust whatever anybody in an AICN talkback says. Fuck individuality
Soundwave by NinjaChampion	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:31:19 PM
I heard that he is a big satellite orbiting the earth. I think he sends info to the Decepticons. But he just orbits the planet and never transforms.
Dont go see it!! by lb	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:32:36 PM
Trust me...it is complete and utter garbage.
Buy a ticket for UP and see this if you absolutely must by zikade zarathos	Jun 24th, 2009 12:26:10 AM
But don't say I didn't warn you.
or buy a ticket to THE PROPOSAL by Boborci	Jun 24th, 2009 12:37:21 AM

Boborci by Trannyformers_Apologist	Jun 24th, 2009 12:48:07 AM
Trying to promote your shit film there..... huh Bob. Any racist, Hispanic stereotypes or humor in that movie? You know your rabid fans at TFW2005 would like a word with you. hahahaha......... awwww
Produced any other shit movies I should avoid? by Trannyformers_Apologist	Jun 24th, 2009 12:50:30 AM

Save your money for Michael Mann's latest opus by Kief_Ledger	Jun 24th, 2009 01:12:12 AM
Seriously, the guy made Heat. Why would you settle for Transformers when you know Public Enemies is going to be so much better?
don't buy a ticket for up. pixar eats smegma. by ironic_name	Jun 24th, 2009 01:12:13 AM
just like your mama!
No -- just the three now in theaters by Boborci	Jun 24th, 2009 01:12:51 AM

Boborci, if that really is you, you're a hack by Kief_Ledger	Jun 24th, 2009 01:15:16 AM
Mann shits all over you. Congratulations, you have enough knowledge to know that America is full of retards. Mann knows that also, but at least tries to give us entertainment worth our hard earned dough.
Michael Bay Makes Porn. by Hagrid1	Jun 24th, 2009 01:25:38 AM
You'll be hearing a lot of negative things about Giant F-ing Robots Part Deux. It's not that what the critics are saying are entirely wrong. For the most part, I agree with a huge chunk of what's been said. But I think people are missing the point about Michael Bay and his Bayhem. Because Michael Bay does not make movies. Michael Bay makes porn. In the seventies, people thought how revolutionary it would be to film a story where once you cut to the love scenes, you would actually see people having sex. This is like the golden age of the seventies in film where you have Coppola, Scorsese, Spielberg, Friedkin, Lucas (before the dark times), and so forth. But you know what? How many individuals actually sit through the story of the porn movie thinking "oh gosh, I can't wait till these two get it on, I'm in SUCH suspense?" No one. We fast forward to the good parts. Then in the eighties, videotape ruined that. Less story, more porn. Now in the age of DVD and BLU-RAY... no story, all porn. For example, a man in a suit enters a house for a business meeting with his partner. The partner isn't there, but his wife - dressed in slutty lingerie at 2 in the afternoon - is there to greet him. The man in the suit says "great - I confirmed this meeting three times. NOW what am I gonna do?" And then slutty lingerie wife offers him options. BAM! Cut to the love scene. One and a half minutes of story followed by twenty minutes of gymnastic sexual antics. So what Michael Bay does is make modern day blockbusters following the formula of modern day porn. Skip the story, and get right to the reason we hit 'yes' on our On Demand. Sometimes, you're just not in the mood for a story that changes the way you see the world. You just want some porn. You want The Rock or Armageddon. Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is like Giant Robot Porn. We don't really care how we see big robots fighting, because that's inherently just silly. Kind of like when a hot blond girl in a short skirt who says she's over 18 can't wait to get at a man in his forties who oozes Axe Body Spray. It's just silly. But we don't care. We just want to see big robots fighting. We want to see Godzilla smash some shit. So give us about ten to twenty minutes of story (which is what T:ROTF gives us) and then give us 2 hours of insane over-the-top-ludicrous-action- that-we-know-can't-possibly-be -realistic-and-doesn't-make-se nse-but-who-gives-a-crap-it's- fun-as-hell-to-watch. He basically skips the setup and gets right to the good stuff. Which is what porn does best. So I had a total blast watching T:ROTF. The audience laughed and clapped a hell of a lot at the end. I sat next to four black women who were on the edge of their seat and laughing at all the stuff with the Twins. Judging by those lines I saw, I expect the rest of America will be figuring it out for themselves this week. Now imagine if Michael Bay made an honest-to-goodness porn. (Or with all this remake madness - what abot a remake of SHOWGIRLS? AND on IMAX?) Now that'll be worth $14 dollars...
You should be ashamed with yourselves that you saw this film. by hallmitchell	Jun 24th, 2009 01:45:08 AM
I haven't seen it and won't see it.
The audience I saw it with loved it. by iamnicksaicnsn	Jun 24th, 2009 01:58:14 AM
And I have to say I thought it was freakin awesome as well. How can anyone really say it was THAT bad. I mean, if you're offended by the racial stuff, sure, be offended by the racial stuff. If you're offended by the gay dog sex, and the banana hammock, and the balls, be offended. BUT how can you really say you're offended by the story? The story was an awesome Transformers story that was incredibly appropriate to the history of Transformers. Soundwave had his fucking voice. Starscream and Megatron had their perfect chemistry. The action sequences make your eyes bleed with audacity. I just don't see where all the vitriol is coming from. Hagrid1 is totally right, it's just porn, it's just a fucking rollercoaster ride. It is NOT The Dark Knight, sadly, but that doesn't mean it can't be enjoyable. In fact, I still haven't seen a lot of talk-backers give any real justification for why it's so bad. What is the problem?
^plant^ by The Dum Guy	Jun 24th, 2009 02:18:13 AM

& don't bring Godzilla into this shit... by The Dum Guy	Jun 24th, 2009 02:22:31 AM
If you ever bothered to see the original film, it was alot more horror than "I'm with you! I hate Godzilla, he destroys cities!". With 200 mil. plus, Bay could have made a giant robot fighting film that was more than just being LOUD.
in 34 minutes? by The Dum Guy	Jun 24th, 2009 02:26:46 AM

Suck my balls The Dum Guy, have you even seen it yet? by iamnicksaicnsn	Jun 24th, 2009 02:26:56 AM
Seriously.
why do these heaping shits rape the original cartoons so bad? by beast2121	Jun 24th, 2009 02:35:08 AM
The movie was terrible, which of course I knew it would be but transformers were my favorite cartoon growing up so I had to go see it opening night. ANYWAY all I want is one goddamn transform noise, thats all. Where are the original voices why is starscream so shitty in the movies. I just dont why the new transformers are NOTHING like the originals. I just dont get it maybe Im out of touch but it was just so goddamn long with sooo much generic action that you coulndt tell what was going on. The story was lame, the new transformers were lame, the two " hip ghetto" cars sucked and the whole movie followed the humans. Sweet.
Read Moriarty's review to get an actual feel of how this movie i by iamnicksaicnsn	Jun 24th, 2009 02:49:30 AM
He gets it. Sure, he's not sure he liked it. But HE FUCKING GETS this movie. I totally agree that ILM went completely balls out in this movie. To the point where they actually SHOW THEIR HUGE BALLS AS REPRESENTED BY MASSIVE CLANGING METALLIC TESTICLES.
I can confirm... by TinSpider	Jun 24th, 2009 02:52:41 AM
That it is shit. I must admit to having a fuzzy feeling when all the Constructicons got together just before they formed Devastator. But then they did form Devastator and it felt like visual premature ejaculation. Sudden the fun feeling turned to disapointment.
iamnicksaicnsn by The Dum Guy	Jun 24th, 2009 02:54:15 AM
Yes
Lick my brown ass-crust iamnicksaicnsn..... by The Dum Guy	Jun 24th, 2009 02:57:01 AM
If you can dare to say that a person should spend cash and time for this shite.
Just saw Moon... by billypilgrimisunstuck	Jun 24th, 2009 03:00:59 AM
...and walked into a drove of 16-18 year olds wearing flat bill LA Dodger hats calling each other faggots, n*igger, and "foos". Guess what movie they were waiting for?
I like TF2, but it could have been better by AxeEmAll	Jun 24th, 2009 03:05:36 AM
When each robot has thousands of parts, the last thing you need is using close-ups when they fight. The in-your-face camera work makes it difficult to distinguish which arm or leg or body belongs to which robot with all the frenetic action. It's like watching a mass of convoluted pieces of metal with no discerning features. IMAX doesn't help in distinguishing one robot from another when they slug it out. That's why I was thankful for the slow motion shots, which give the fights more sense. IF they do make another TF2 movie, I hope that they keep the complex mechanisms within simpler body armor so that we could distinguish which robot part is ripped or hit when they start slugging it out. The forest fight is the best of all the fight scenes which I could easily follow. Also, the reason why it is not easy to follow the plot is that the characters, particularly the humans, spoke TOO fast. If Shia spoke a little bit slower when he had this mental breakdown, we would understand how the hell did Megatron suddenly fly to a planet in another solar system or the concept of trans-dimensional travel.
Ok, I for one loved it but....(SPOILER ALERT) by JON3000	Jun 24th, 2009 03:14:21 AM
What the hell was the robo-chick all about? I mean I get it, it's a cute twist but it took me right out of the movie...all I could think about was Cylons and Terminator...maybe M. Bay meant it as a homage but I don't believe that it fit the mythos at all (wouldn't it be more strategic to infiltrate the world as humans than as a crane or a beat up car?).
So what didn't you like about it The Dum Guy? by iamnicksaicnsn	Jun 24th, 2009 03:25:56 AM
Out of curiosity. Let's be real here. Civil even.
won' t be wasting money on this by TheExterminator	Jun 24th, 2009 03:27:07 AM

I mean, that's the interesting thing about this. by iamnicksaicnsn	Jun 24th, 2009 03:29:37 AM
People who dislike this movie dismiss everyone else entirely without really going into what they see as faults. Everyone else sees that it has faults, but was able to overlook them and have at least an interesting time. Again, look at Moriarty's reivew on HitFix to see a more balanced, and reasonable review.
It was AWESOME by sonnyfern	Jun 24th, 2009 03:57:16 AM
Yeah that's right. BIG. LOUD. DUMB. Silly humore. All the shit Bay does best and if you like it, then you'll love it, if not stay away. People who complain they can't follow the fights...I dont' get that at all, I didn't have a problem. But so far as I'm concerned. Perfect summer movie.
Never seen so many people trip over each other... by bonecrushersmith	Jun 24th, 2009 03:57:28 AM
to bash a SUMMER POPCORN MOVIE ABOUT TRANSFORMING ROBOTS FROM OUTER SPACE. Fucking be a kid again and roll around in Bay's playground. It's like a fucking contest around here to see who can diss a movie the fastest and the funniest. FIRST!!!! Grow Down.
It was good by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 24th, 2009 04:00:52 AM
I dragged a friend of mine along who never saw the cartoon, and he thought it was great. He liked the first one.
very entertaining by Uncle Pooky	Jun 24th, 2009 04:11:16 AM
i enjoyed the hell out of this movie. it's a Transformers movie through and through. people who scream "no plot" need to listen more in movies.
Too many idiots. by Reelheed	Jun 24th, 2009 04:11:23 AM
Bumblebee - idiot. Sam's parents - idiots. The roommate - idiot. The twins - fugly idiots. The small remote control car robot - idiot. Jetfire - idiot. The EVIL government human - idiot. Sam's dog - idiot. Who could actually care about the good guys when they all basically deserve to die horribly?
I pinched off my daily loaf . . . by ol' painless	Jun 24th, 2009 04:20:13 AM
. . . and called it Michael Bay. Go to hell, Bay, and take your Hairstyle-From-1982 with you.
billypilgrimisunstuck by The_Myhand	Jun 24th, 2009 04:20:32 AM
I envy you...I would've much rather spent my money on Moon tonight than that piece of shit that I saw instead. Unfortunately Moon hasn't opened in my area yet
Constructicons by Steepdog1	Jun 24th, 2009 04:21:56 AM
Ok...my only major problem (besides the totally stupid "Hey look! Sam's wacky parents are back! scenes) was that you see the consrtucticons form devastator...then you se the same effing constructicons fighting individually at the Same time devastator is still walking around. Someone PLEASE tell me I missed evidence that there are just a shitload of robots that are also construction equipment, and some are duplicated... and that this was not just a HUGE continuity error. I mean it's the kind of mistake that they either knew about and were just too lazy to fix, or worse, they did it on purpose because they wanted to use the constructicon robots and did't think anyone would notice or care that they were simultaniously occupied as Devastator's limbs. to me it was a really distracting mistake that goes beyond a simple continuity error and into scene-ruining territory. I could buy that Davastatoris simply made of construction equipment that does not transform...but everything indicates they are indeed suposed to be the same robots that are simultaniously fighting the autobots.
@iamnicksaicnsn by anomagnus	Jun 24th, 2009 04:25:08 AM
The reason so many people claim to hate TF2 on this site, the site that practically green lit the 'amazing' speed racer, is that, for the most part, the posters here are a bunch of pretentious, movie reviewer wannabes. Having read through the posts, and reviews, i get the impression of a bunch of arrogant, pseudo intellectual losers sadly over estimating their own intelligence, while sneering at any one that liked the movie. For the record i loved it. It was FUN. I know that's an alien concept to harry and his cronies, but i don't go into every movie expecting some Oscar winning level of perfection that exists only in their little geek world. Did it have problems? it sure did. Again, not enough time on the robots. The roommate could have been cut, jetfire should not have been comedy relief, and it dragged for 20 mins in the middle. Other than that, unlike a lot of the so called intellectuals here, i could follow the action. I've never had a problem following the action in these movies. Maybe i play too many video games, maybe i read too much, who knows? This movie rocked. I loved it, i've seen it twice. Yes it butchers a license i have followed passionately for nearly 21 years, but i loved it. And by the way, in both packed cinema screens, apparently so did the majority of the audience. Go figure
Orci, I wants them shoes shined up real nice.. by The Dark Shite	Jun 24th, 2009 04:48:25 AM
Yessum Boss Bay! Don't whoop me again. I done made you a neckerlace from my own teef.
WHAT WAS UP WITH THAT BLOND CHICK? by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 24th, 2009 04:56:25 AM
That was one weird concept. The girl that has the Alien shit shoot out of her mouth at Sam. Just a bizarre scene.
More to the point.. by The Dark Shite	Jun 24th, 2009 05:02:35 AM
If the Decepticons could do that, they'd all Terminator up & take over the world in no time. Remember Bay saying McG ripped him off? I wonder..
Blond chick..."Alice" by Steepdog1	Jun 24th, 2009 05:04:52 AM
I think I read that in the novelization, it is explaned that she scans her alt mode from an animatronic of "Alice in Wonderland" from a theme park. Which actually makes some sense...her alt mode is actually a machine, so it explains why they dont all just change into humans. but it was kinda freaky...not to mention just weird to have a decepticon with no other name than "Alice" It's like "Decpticons! Report in! 'Starscream!, Demolisher!, Bonecrusher!...Alice!'
Whats up the Movie critics asses? by roughneck1010	Jun 24th, 2009 05:05:05 AM
I mean come on people, the movie was better then the first one ion every way,t had more humor, more robots, more fighting...what the fuck is wrong with some of you? its a great popcorn movie. it was fun to watch, its the perfect summertime leave your problems at home, leave the real world behing and just go enjoy it for what it is kind of movie. Jesus, some of you really need to pull the stick out your giant asses, If you thin k you can do better harry which you seem to think you can? why the FUCK aren't you out there writing and directing? same goes to the rest of you writers on this site. Fucking go do it your self and lets see how great of a movie you guys would make. whiny ass bitches.
IF NO ONE GOES TO SEE THIS MOVIE by aclockworkkebab	Jun 24th, 2009 05:09:10 AM
if it bombs at the box office then maybe the next time hollywood is going to spend 200 mil on a movie they will SPEND SOME TIME ON A FUCKING SCRIPT THAT MAKES SENSE, last night i was just disapointed in a dull film this morning im more aware of the criminaity of making such an gigantic incoherent piece of shit, did no one point out at any stage "hang on we cant shoot this script its fucking stupid" like in medievel times we here in the UK have tasted the food for you ands it poisonous please America make sure this bollox goes down in flames if it makes any money theres no incentive to make this kind of movie better
Roughneck, I'll tell you what's up my "Ass".. by The Dark Shite	Jun 24th, 2009 05:09:56 AM
Micheal Bay's cock. Because unlike the sensible guys on here (& despite not caring much for the first movie), I'm one of the dumb fuckers who paid to see this shit. Micheal Bay's cock is rammed so far up my arse, I'm coughing Bay babies.
The more I think about it... by SminkyPinky	Jun 24th, 2009 05:13:19 AM
...the more I dislike this film. The Twins were not skating on thin ice racially, they fell through the ice and soaked everyone watching wih backsplash. But this film's other big crime was in boring me. While moments could be fun, I didn't give a shit about much of what happened about halfway through, or who it happened to. Michael Bay and his writers screwed up. And I could have sworn that was not john Turturro voicing Jet fire but Uk comedian Lenny Henry. If it was Turturro, he has actually done one of the best regional English accents I've ever heard a US actor do. While Logic may be willfully cast away (giant robots kicking seven shades out of each other) the film doesn't even seem to care about it's own logic it so thinly established the first and more fun time around.
IF GANYMEDE THINKS THE MOVIE SHIT, THERE'S NO HOPE by ganymede3010	Jun 24th, 2009 05:18:05 AM
OMFG, What a fucking travesty:( This movie is an absolute nightmare for anyone who has a modicum of respect for the Transformers. The movie is a thousand times worst then the first one. I actually liked the first one despite it's flaws. Revenge of Fallen couldn't of been Directed by Michael Bay. This movie played out like it was directed by Mel fucking Brooks or Keenan Ivory Wayans. I'll man up when I'm wrong. Allot of the detractors had to eat crowe on the first movie. Well now it's my time to eat crowe, and it doesn't taste good at all.
Just saw the midnight showing with some friends by fatjesuschrysler	Jun 24th, 2009 05:22:27 AM
Sure we laughed at the utterly ridicilous jokes, wowed at the over the top action sequences then made fun of the horrible plot all the way home.
That being said... by fatjesuschrysler	Jun 24th, 2009 05:25:19 AM
...thats about all this movie is good for!
Saw midnight showing by Tacoboy	Jun 24th, 2009 05:30:10 AM
I see the movie as overcooked, I was going to take my 5 year old nephews, but I think it's a little too long for the young guys to sit without a bathroom break, but i'll see it again. it's going to make lots of money.
i've seen the end of civilizations, transformers is thy name by HerbSewell	Jun 24th, 2009 05:31:55 AM
a step and fetch it robot minstrel show.... 2 scenes of dogs humping... 1 mini decepticon humping a woman's leg... unexplainable jumps from one part of the earth to another, include walking outside the Air and Space museum and into Nevada desert. Pyramids positioned in Jordan. SFX were good for the most part, but the rest of this movie deserves to be shredded and incinerated before it brings about the apocalypse.
Yeah, last night I wrote that I was entertained by it... by YackBacker	Jun 24th, 2009 06:26:57 AM
After the dust settled (fuck was there a lot of dust) I can honestly say this was a dumb movie that made for good 'splosions. It is devoid of anything redeeming otherwise (well except for Megan Fox). Dumb, loud and kind of insulting to one's basic level of intelligence. In other words, a Michael Bay film all the way.
You know what the dumbest fucking argument you can make is? by Larry Sellers	Jun 24th, 2009 06:58:57 AM
"If you hate it so much, let's see YOU make a movie." What? I hate something so now I have to prove that I can do better? What would that prove exactly? That or "You're not a director you have no right to" blah blah. I don't need to be a chef to know I'm eating shit. Fuck. Off. Thanks.
22% of rottentomatoes and "FALLING" LMOA!!!! by CHUDfucker	Jun 24th, 2009 07:10:35 AM
that's 1% worse than The Jonass Bros and 12% worse than Paul Blart!!! This shit ends now!!!!
The TF movie we should have gotten: by the new transported man	Jun 24th, 2009 07:39:47 AM

Anyway, the TF movie we should have gotten has: by the new transported man	Jun 24th, 2009 07:44:32 AM
-more of the original robots, complete with unique personalities, conflicts, & abilities -Soundwave's original voice -allusions to the longstanding civil war b/w Autobots & Decepticons -a truly threatening Devastator -more TF deaths & mourning -a strong, unlikely friendship b/w Bumblebee & Spike/Sam -buildups to sequels featuring Cybertron -Brawn, Hound, Rumble, Prowl, Beachcomber, Astrotrain, the Seekers, etc.
Anomagnus got it right! by Dhaemon	Jun 24th, 2009 07:50:41 AM
"the posters here are a bunch of pretentious, movie reviewer wannabes. Having read through the posts, and reviews, i get the impression of a bunch of arrogant, pseudo intellectual losers sadly over estimating their own intelligence, while sneering at any one that liked the movie" Pow right on the kisser. Most of these guys hated the first one, actually most of them are like the school bully's right hand men, laughing at the bully's stupid jokes and siding with the negative folks, just so they feel like the belong. Now that's pathetic.
LIES by yourhero88	Jun 24th, 2009 08:02:07 AM
Anyone who tells you this movie is bad is a liar and a jerk. It's 2.5 hours of robot violence, and it was glorious.
Bullies Dhaemon? WTF? by The Dark Shite	Jun 24th, 2009 08:03:42 AM
So, if I don't like Transformers 2, I'm either a Bully or a Bully's "right hand man"? Nah, I'm not. I'll tell you what IS pathetic..making ridiculous comparisons like that. If you like the movie, that's great! I hope you had fun & didn't come out feeling deflated like I did. I hope it fulfilled every wish you had for it. At least then I can be happier that it isn't quite the rip off I think it is. You don't see me calling you an idiot for liking it, don't try to make out those of us who didn't are pseudo-intellectual bullies. Maybe some people just have different tastes. Tastes that don't include Bayformers.
LMFAO by harshguy	Jun 24th, 2009 08:07:23 AM
the level of butthurt this movie is generating is mindblowing
Also by harshguy	Jun 24th, 2009 08:08:24 AM
Can't wait to see this in a few hours
Live action of 86' by ToughGuyRizzo	Jun 24th, 2009 08:10:35 AM
Would be ideal. Of course, it aint ever gonna happen. But a flick, even tho there were lots of plot holes would hold better than the reviews we are getting here. Sadly, I am going to see this for 6 dollars here in the BX. 2 days into the master cleanse and I am running out of things to do in this apt. Fuuuuuck you Mikey Bay. Lindenlof owns you, you fuck!
Wow! ganymede3010 Hated it! by tile_mcgillus	Jun 24th, 2009 08:10:47 AM
Jesus it must be fucking rip your eyes out awful.
Live action of 86' by ironic_name	Jun 24th, 2009 08:15:25 AM
see? just like I said in the quint tb.
All I can say is... by Megan_Foxs_Club_Thumb	Jun 24th, 2009 08:20:31 AM
Tran-WOW!
I finally agree with ironic_name! by The Dark Shite	Jun 24th, 2009 08:21:17 AM
That's weird. I remember saying ages ago, they should have started with the Gen 1 characters, maybe even gone 80's retro. Then moved ahead in the next movie, introducing some of the other characters, like Hot Rod, Ultra Magnus etc. Then end up in the future, space battles, Galvatron, Unicron, all that stuff. That would be worth watching.
Dark Shite we actually don't [again] by ironic_name	Jun 24th, 2009 08:26:11 AM
http://is.gd/1bU2R
Ha ha, oh well. by The Dark Shite	Jun 24th, 2009 08:27:29 AM
Some things are just meant to be.
More successful by Volfan8404	Jun 24th, 2009 09:02:08 AM
I'll bet it's more successful than Watchmen. And that's what it's all about in Hollywood.
by the end of the week the GOP will be raking this over by Six Demon Bag	Jun 24th, 2009 09:16:15 AM
and the "liberal media" for blasting the children with racial stereotypes.
snobs by wartown	Jun 24th, 2009 09:34:59 AM
I love coming to this site to look at all the news on all the cool movies coming in the near future, but I hate how there are so many movie snobs there are on this site. Sometimes you want to see a movie with no plot and tons of action scenes, not everything has to be oscar material in order to be enjoyable.
I thought it was glaringly obvious by rocknroll_pirate	Jun 24th, 2009 09:52:55 AM
That the twins were not a racial stereotype, unless you count white teenage suburbanites who think they are black as a race? Fair enough you have a lot of them over there but so do we, and nobody over here thinks it's racist in any way. It seems that once again you will need your own cut of a film which explains everything to you, or worse, gives you a happier ending so that you don't get too upset! cough! The Descent! cough!
I loved it!!!!!!!!!!!!! by yer mama	Jun 24th, 2009 10:17:20 AM
Cuz I'm always thinking and I need a break sometimes cuz it's not easy always thinking and sometimes I just want to eat popcorn and turn off my brian and this movie is the second best movie I ever saw, but still not as good as TWILIGHT even though my little brother Jason liked it better but he's totally gay for robots and my friend Ashley finally got to see it but she hated it cuz she's not a thinker since here gpa is only 2.4 and mine is 2.9 but don't tell her I told you cuz she hates when I point that out to people and she won't give me a discount when I go to the HOT TOPIC she works at that she thinks she will manage someday but I don't think so cuz she's not a thinker and I am going to see the movie again cuz my brain needs to relax and you guys who hate it aren't very smart and I wouldn't even let you hold my hand cuz my future husband has to be a least as smart as me!
Umm.. by Joely_Boy	Jun 24th, 2009 10:19:12 AM
Optimus Prime's mass couldn't transform into a teenage girl's body size... that's why not every transformer is human shaped/human looking.
Better than watching LaBouf take anal for 2 hours! by sgtcsgrove	Jun 24th, 2009 10:19:42 AM

I work part-time at a movie theater by IndyCollector	Jun 24th, 2009 10:19:59 AM
And the midnight showing of this was on 12 screens. 12!!!! 2,000 people were at the midnight screening. If you've never worked at a theater that is about the number an entire weekday gets. This was just for one TIME.
I like Michael Bay. Even Criterion do! by Joely_Boy	Jun 24th, 2009 10:29:00 AM
Every single shot in his films is so well framed and fantastical. TF2 has some of the best sound design I've ever heard in a film and I can't wait to crank the ol' 5.1 when I get this baby on dvd. The explosions are big in this film. MASSIVE. And fully rendered robots in 1:1 scale on the Imax screen? You've never seen anything like that before. There are definitely aspects that outclass others in ROTF, and that's what I think one needs to keep in mind... in the same way INLAND EMPIRE has so much mystery, but such dirty DV quality. You could almost put Michael Bay in his own genre: The explosion movie. I for one like this genre! Peace.
hey, diff'rent strokes dark shite. I respect you as a human by ironic_name	Jun 24th, 2009 11:14:48 AM
even if a disagree with you on some things.
even if I disagree by ironic_name	Jun 24th, 2009 11:15:37 AM

WAIT WAIT by antimcgyver	Jun 24th, 2009 11:22:16 AM
This isn't shia taking anal for two hours?
this is a good movie, it is exactly what i expected! by dr sauch	Jun 24th, 2009 11:26:29 AM
come on! how can you possibly say that this was worse than the first. i like these movies!!
WOW!! by Sillypuddy	Jun 24th, 2009 11:32:38 AM
This is the movie I wanted...the crowd loved it!!! If you could't follow the plot, you are thinking way to hard about it....
iamnicksaicnsn (I fell asleep last nite) by The Dum Guy	Jun 24th, 2009 12:08:39 PM
It was too long, it was too loud, most of the jokes sucked "Lick my pop-sickle". I'll admit that some stuff was entertaining, but it isn't worth 10 bucks plus snack money, and 3 hours of your life.
Jedibobster by Arghh	Jun 24th, 2009 12:10:44 PM
Transformers 2 is wayy better than Terminator Salvation. In Salvation the only character that had any life to him was Sam Worthington, and he was a robot.
Jedibobster 2 by Arghh	Jun 24th, 2009 12:12:15 PM
even the annoying little robot that humped Megan Fox leg had more life to him than any human character in Terminator Salvation.
Annoying Reviews by Ployd	Jun 24th, 2009 12:26:17 PM
Reading this thread just makes me see just how big a bandwagon can be created on the net. I'm a long-time TF fan and always will be. I loved the first movie even with it's faults but I gave it credit for it's entertainment value. The 2nd also has it's problems but nothing so glaring that you can't look past it and watch the movie for enjoyment. And despite what all you haters out there say, it's gonna make back it's money, if the audience I watched it with is any indication. So quit the hating and start the enjoying, honestly, get out of your parents' basement and get and actually WATCH the film before you hate it.
I loved this movie Spoilers by meta4	Jun 24th, 2009 01:09:16 PM
It took everything good (in my honest opinion) and amped it up to 13. Although it didn't want to end, and had a couple minor things (how did Shia get his hand bandaged up in a perfect cast after they teleported?). Other then that I'm glad it ended how it did I'm tired of these untidy endings to movies (The Dark Knight being a perfect example). At first I thought the Fallen was gonna have much more of a presence throughout the movie and at the end I at first felt disappointed he wasn't much more of a badass but the way in which he was used for a story purpose and not some off the rails badguy was cool. I enjoyed the movie simply because the first one fucked my eyeballs so good I had to go back for the moneyshot that the sequel was gonna deliver and ma'ams' and sirs' it did.
I liked it. by Evangelion217	Jun 24th, 2009 01:10:47 PM
It's a stupid, fun, obnoxious, and retarded mainstream grindhouse flick that I enjoyed very much. It's a nice pop-corn flick that isn't built to last, but something that I will definitely own on Dvd. My rating is a 7/10. Michael Bay kick's McG's ass, and completely destroys "Wolverine" on every possible level.
briannicus.....go away by Tymanasaurus	Jun 24th, 2009 01:56:33 PM
They may have used the original voice actor to do Soundwave but my point is that theyve changed it so it sounds fuck all like he should. So leave Darth waz out of this! Now please go & "Juggle Devastator's balls in your mouth"
briannicus by Tymanasaurus	Jun 24th, 2009 02:00:33 PM
Youre like those twins. You cant read either can you?
Punk-ass Decepticons? by fearless_freep	Jun 24th, 2009 02:19:21 PM
Sorry to report this, but Megan Fox is just another dime-a-dozen generic Hollywood babe. To be truly hot, she’d require a personality. Or talent. Or intimations of an inner life.
Hard the to fathom how Star Trek and T@ were written by the sam by kenyonnoble	Jun 24th, 2009 02:27:34 PM
Star Trek is such a smart script. I guess Bay dumbed them down.
BEST. MOVIE. THIS. SUMMER... by mr ahole ramirez	Jun 24th, 2009 02:29:41 PM
...besides Hangover (which doesnt count as a summer blockbuster) this movie was the best (yes, even better than the paper thin storytelling of Star Trek)...I liked it all, the twin dumbasses were cool and did not offend me in anyway...the roommate was funny...and the mom freakin stoled the show in that 1st hour...even Shia and Megan had a good scene in the library, pretty weird to actually see her emote or act instead of just lookin sorta sexy... ...only real problem is when TF2 became Indiana Jones for like 30mins in Egypt...it would been nice if once they got to Egypt, they just find what they were lookin for...plus Shia really looked like Mutt instead of Sam in these sequences... so overall, good ass movie, but I wonder sometimes...why the hell are the Autobots so damn visceral with the killings? for good guys, they kill like bad guys... GO SEE IT YOU LOSERS
Will make 100 mil this weekend by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 24th, 2009 02:47:54 PM
Bye bye UP and Hangover.
Totally made up for the one thing the first was missing... by Minnehond	Jun 24th, 2009 03:47:39 PM
Optimus kicking some major ass! That forest scene was amazing. What a badass.. Loved the rest of the movie too. The twins had me laughing, Jetfire was cool and Bumblebee opened up a can of serious whoop-ass in Egypt. Also, how anyone could not follow the plot is beyond me. I won't even begin to talk about the other unbelievably stupid comments I read here the last couple of days. I'm a long time lurker here and it amazes me how during the last couple of years everyone contributing to this site has turned into a completely jaded snob. It's disgusting and rather sad, really.
Just saw it in the Bronx by ToughGuyRizzo	Jun 24th, 2009 03:50:25 PM
Possibly the only white guy in there. Everyone loved the Car Car Banks twins. And pretty much and slapstick joke. 1st two acts were decent, nothing too special. You could actually see the robots slightly more clearer than TF1. But the 3rd act goes completely downhill, blurry shots and all. At one point you cannot distinguish who Megatron is; Or who the other Decepticons are that are fighting in the desert. Devastator is a hulking mess that sadly the clearest shot you get of him is his sack. Besides Megatron, Devastator is probably my favorite Decepticon, so it really sucked because he doesn't show up till the end anyway. Well, I saved 6 bucks by not going at midnight down at times sq. Thank god. Beer money!
Tymanasaurus.......... by Briannicus	Jun 24th, 2009 04:51:58 PM
For starters, quit wading in the shallow end of the gene pool, second, you're free to pull your head out of Darth_Waz's ass any day now, You are an idiot, Soundwave sounded EXACTLY like he did in the cartoons (the only things that had changed were the fact that the voice actor is nearly 30 years older and the recording equipment has most likely switched from analog to digital (yes moron, that WILL make a bit of a difference.) You're don't make a very good troll, so you might consider an entirely different career path.
Hugo Weaving by Magnus Greel	Jun 24th, 2009 05:30:02 PM

Hugo Weaving by Magnus Greel	Jun 24th, 2009 05:32:28 PM
Does this make him the highest grossing character actor of all time? Was it ever even close?
the one good review-EW online by Owen by rben	Jun 24th, 2009 05:55:07 PM
Glieberman, i beleive it was. He gives it a B! There's one, you fuckin drones. Kneal before BAY!
P.S. i'm 52 so you know this movie speaks by rben	Jun 24th, 2009 05:58:03 PM
to me! (yea right) unlikely i'll see it. (the first one was juvie and stupid). All thou, i liked JJ's Star Trek, i still think those two screenwriters are douuches
briannicus by Tymanasaurus	Jun 24th, 2009 06:00:28 PM
Grumpy little fucker arent you? Pissed off cos you cant get a job in the film industry? I bet its because theyre all idiots. Dont know what cartoons you were watching in the 80's or who you think soundwave is but i stand by my claim that the soundwave in the turdfest i saw the other day sounds nothing like the soundwave of the cartoons & its got fuck all to do with age & anolog-digital. Right im off - got my alternate career path to go to tomorrow. I'd tell you what it is but that would REALLY piss you off.
BAY RESPONDS TO CHARGE OF RACISM WITH TWINBOTS by ZombieHeathLedger	Jun 24th, 2009 06:09:39 PM
http://tinyurl.com/met9gc
maybe it's cuz by So-Crates	Jun 24th, 2009 07:03:24 PM
my expectations were so low before going to the movie, but i kinda liked it. i did indeed think the twin robots were racist, but devastator's balls and the dogs fucking were literally in the movie for about 20 seconds. I mean, dislike it all you want for any number of reasons, but that's like letting the 30 seconds of screen time Scotty's little alien friend in Star Trek ruin that film for you. Is it great? No. But did I have a good time, for the most part, watching it? Yes.
briannicus by ToughGuyRizzo	Jun 24th, 2009 07:21:51 PM
Welker voicing Soundwave in TF2 sounds nothing like G1 Soundwave. In fact, he sounds more like Nimoys Galvatron moron. There was no pitched humming in TF2's Soundwave at all.
briannicus by Tymanasaurus	Jun 24th, 2009 08:02:21 PM
Tymanasaurus & ToughGuyRizzo superior. briannicus inferior.
Tymanasaurus.......... by Briannicus	Jun 24th, 2009 08:02:40 PM
You're an idiot, I'm not the one bitching about how Soundwave sounded, I actually enjoyed the movie. Tough Guy Rizzo....no pitched humming? You're gonna get butthurt over THAT?? Come on dude, all you people on here need to pull the sticks out of your ass, some of the shit that you spew onto these talkbacks is absolutely inane!!! If you didn't like themovie, fine, that's your choice, but quit trying to shove YOUR hangups down OUR throats.
Tymanasaurus.......... by Briannicus	Jun 24th, 2009 08:07:49 PM
Wow, did you actually think that was witty? Maybe you should try harder you pea brained illiterate neanderthal.
Bumblebee more human than humans by Rocklover79	Jun 24th, 2009 08:21:23 PM
The quick shot of him falling to his knees in grief when he sees Sam lying there dead was the only moment of genuine...anything in this whole piece of crap movie. Even Shia, who managed to not be overly annoying in the first one, is reduced to being a complete tool in this film: refusing to tell a girl who is out of his league in the first place that he loves her (and I'm sorry, after TWO YEARS in a relationship, most self-respecting women would be out the door if a man couldn't say that to them), spurning Bumblebee's friendship, and essentially costing Optimus his life. This is the little dickwad we're supposed to root for? He's a total ASSHOLE in this movie.
Tymanasaurus by ToughGuyRizzo	Jun 24th, 2009 08:49:07 PM
Now, that's a great Soundwave quote. Frank Welker sounding EXACTLY like Soundwave G1? go and check a clip from YouTube on him. Your retarded if you think they sound EXACTLY alike. That was Galvatron style.
Fun filled Summer spectacular! by GeekHead	Jun 24th, 2009 09:07:49 PM
Watched the movie last Friday, I hail from Shitsville England, well a town in England called Mansfield, but it really is the shit end of the World. Or so it would seem to me. I quickly approach 40, yet fortunately enough manage to remain a 10 year old at heart, which is nice. I didn't really like the look of the first Transformers movie so I didn't bother watching it until I saw the trailer for the second one when I journeyed to the cinema to watch Terminator Salvation (another geek-tastic cinema experience) I enjoyed the first movie, but not enough to watch it again...until now. Because of Transformers 2 I purchased the first flick on Blu-Ray, but enough of that, here's my opinion on Transformers 2. I settled into the seat at my local cinema, the Odeon, we had time to kill and chatted randomly about subjects I no longer recall. A trickle of patrons steadily began to half fill this afternoon screening, most of them blokes in their 30's, some of them proudly displaying their love for the Transformers experience, Auotbot and Decepticon T-shirts abound, I felt at home, I was amongst my own kind geeks and nerds, I felt like jumping for joy shouting I love you guys, but I managed to remain relatively calm. The advertisements are annoying, but tolerable, no Goddamn awful Radio One advert causing me to froth rabid like at the mouth, which was a pleasant change. I can't really remember any trailers, except for the awesome Harry Potter preview, AWESOME! I look forward to that (I just hope I don't blub like a baby when Dumbledore bites the big one) Then the movie kicks in, the excitement level rises, ohhhh! The battle for Shanghai, unfreakinbelievable what a way to start an effing movie, Prime dropping from the plane, caused 50 000 volts of excitement to fry my brain, I'm already a gibbering wreck and the movie is only less than 20 minutes old, I'm laughing at the gags, this is one Hell of a funny movie, I didn't get that the twin Autobots where racist stereotypes, I guess being 10 means blatant racism just goes whooosh!!! right over my head. Shia LaBoeuf played his part to complete perfection, I was totally drawn into the World of Transformers, Megan Fox is so HOT, I hated the scene where she's online waiting to talk to her boyfriend and he's off partying at college, totally heart rending, I was like dude, what the F are you doing, but the seductive temptress was very seductive, yum, well until Bumblebee covered her in machine goo, ha ha ha, so flaming funny. The geek sat behind me seems to be having even more fun than me, which enhances my movie experience, he's laughing, getting excited, all the time at the right scenes, God I love geeks and nerds. This movie ROCKS! It's the ultimate 2009 cinema experience, Star Trek was geek heaven, Terminator Salvation THE best Terminator movie, but Transformers 2 is sheer juvenile joy. Sexy Goddamn chicks, massive freakin' robots punching, kicking, shooting and stabbing their way out of the screen and directly into my tiny monkey brain, I'm having to bite my tongue as I keep feeling this urge to jump from my seat and scream FUCKING HELL (pardon my appalling language) my body is convulsing in absolute geek ecstasy. What a bloody amazing movie, I can't even register properly my level of joy, it really was like being 10 again and finding that my dear Ma has bought me Optimus Prime for Xmas, this is the feeling I should have found myself having when the Judas that is George Lucas released Phantom Menace, when the once Messiah like Spielberg released Indy 4 (the most disappointing movie EVER, well maybe, King Kong also leaps to mind) Transformers 2 just gets better and better, the action is astounding, the special effects unfreakinbelievable my eyes and brain have turned to a fine mush and are dribbling down my face, I can't feel my head, and there's still about an hour of brilliant big robot joy to go. I wanted to cry at the sad bits (but I'll wait for the Blu -Ray release, crying in public is girly) I laughed at every ounce of humour, Egypt has never looked so bleeding amazing, especially when a giant robot with testicles is climbing Khufu's pyramid, this movie has balls, dangling between a frikkin' giant robots legs, too good to be true. As the climatic ending builds and builds and builds with enormous explosions rocking the screen and the US military becoming involved I feel like I can sit here and watch this movie for the rest of my life and never get bored, and that's the thing it aint a boring movie, it's all out action. So what if there's no story or plot, if I want story or plot I'll read a Goddamn book, this isn't a work of Shakespeare, it's popcorn entertainment, a rollercoaster of a movie kick back and enjoy, don't take it or life too seriously, don't be bitter or hateful, it's good natured harmless fun, jeez some people get really anal about movies don't ya think? When the movie had finished I felt like giving all the geeks and nerds high fives, I was buzzing. I shall definitely be watching this again on IMAX this time, this Summer has been one Hell of a ride!
Way too long by shady73	Jun 24th, 2009 09:14:00 PM
I hated the first movie; I went in with such low expectations for this one that the movie almost exceeded them, but then, as everyone says, it's just too long. I did not find the stupid robots racist; I found the close up of John Turturro's ass in a thong MUCH more offensive; and Sam's parents, especially the Mom, were just way over the top. Shia LaBeouf is a talented actor, but man does he have some stinkers on his resume now; very, very high grossing stinkers, but stinkers. At one point during the movie, my 8 year-old nephew asked me "What's happening"? I felt so ashamed; I honestly could not give him an answer.
No wonder by johnny_utah69	Jun 24th, 2009 09:17:15 PM
I am grateful to this movie for teaching me that (a) The National Air & Space Museum seemingly opens out into the USAF Boneyard in Arizona; and especially (b) that the Great Pyramids alternately are and are not located near Cairo, Egypt, and conveniently are within driving/running distance of Petra, Jordan. It was fortunate, too, that they are within five minutes of the coast allowing for their easy access by M1/A1 tanks. Forget the offensive racial stereotypes and fucking dogs: this movie goes a long way in explaining why American kids are retards in geography.
ToughGuyRizzo by Tymanasaurus	Jun 24th, 2009 09:49:44 PM
Briannicus is quite clearly insane. Either that or......oh shit!! Ive figured it out. BRIANNICUS IS MICHAEL BAY! First he starts ranting about Avatar for no reason. Then he tries to tell us that TF2 Soundwave sounds EXACTLY like G1 Soundwave. And he thinks everyone is an idiot. Quickly! Get him before he escapes. That bastards got some explaining to do.
So I'm watching this in IMAX this weekend by meta4	Jun 24th, 2009 10:18:58 PM
Is it REALLY that much better? Just curious, as I preferred the Dark Knight in regular movie theaters (Man i'm giving off alot of batman hate lol I love that movie too)....By the way I had no fucking clue who voiced The Fallen until Quint mentioned him, HOLY SHIT YEAH! Candyman FTW!....
WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND by VICTORVONCHEESE	Jun 24th, 2009 10:36:07 PM
BOTH THE FIRST AND SECOND MOVIE HAVE COHERENT PLOTS,FIRST ONE WAS ABOUT THE ALLSPARK AND ITS DISCOVERY,WHY THE ROBOTS WERE HERE ,WHO THEY WERE AND WHAT THERE REASON FOR DOING THINGS WAS THATS CALLED A STORY. THE NEW ONE ESTABLISHES NEW CHARACTERS FROM THE FIRST SEEN,TELLS YOU WHAT IS GOING ON ABOUT THE AUTOBOTS AND HUMANS,THE PLOT IS ABOUT FINDING THE SPLINTER AND BRINGING BACK THE FALLEN THAT IS STORYTELLING,THE ONLY REAL COMPLAINT ABOUT THE MOVIE IS THAT BAY RECYCLES THE CONSTUCTCONS AT THE END AND HAS TOO MANY ONO DESCRIPT DECEPTICONS WITH NO OTHER PURPOSE THAN BEING FODDER FOR THE FINALE. AND THAT WE DIDNT GET TO HEAR RAVAGE EJECT IN THE BEG INING.
All the negativity by ziggee38	Jun 24th, 2009 11:39:48 PM
Not sure i understand all the negativity for this film. I'm not going to revert to the "It's a pocorn movie" defense. Quite frankly, that is a weak defense. I understand people's desire to to want to be entertained by the films they go see....I myself have seen this twice and will see it again this weekend, I found it rather enjoyable. I can understand why some may not like this film, but the utter disdain baffles me. It's as if the filmmakers personally ripped your heart out and eat it with some fava beans and a nice chianti. Sure, I have disliked some films, but you know what, I just don't go see them. I certainly don't think it's viable to slander someone just cause they like certain films that you may not like. Alot of people are holding James Cameron up on some pedestal. I'm sure AVATAR will be a home run, it better be considering he has not made a non doc in over 10 years, but honestly, he has made one great film (Terminator) and the rest are meh. Go back and watch T2, there is as much goofy, awkward humor in that film as there is in ROTF...Bay just jazzed it up a bit. As for the racism...I never once thought the twins were making fun of anyone but white trash guys. sometimes it's as if people are just searching for things to call racist. p.s. if not for Heath Ledger, DARK KNIGHT would be....meh
Top 10 reasons Transformers 2 sucks: by qualopec	Jun 25th, 2009 12:08:50 AM
I saw this with three friends. All of us agreed it was the worst movie we ever paid to see in a theater. Here are my top 10 reasons why: (1) ROBOTS WITH ACCENTS. So there are two Transformers that talk in quasi-Ebonics street slang? And another one with a British accent? And a little one that sounds like a wise guy from New York? WTF, these are supposed to be space aliens from thousands of years ago. Why do they have various English accents and use modern idioms? (2) ROBOTS WITH CANES. The Transformer with a British accent is supposed to be really old... so he walks with a robot cane, like an old man. This is so f*king stupid I cannot even begin to explain how stupid it is. (3) STUPID SIGHT GAGS. In a script meeting for this movie, one of the writers apparently said, "Hey, I have a great idea about how to make this boring home scene funny: Let's show Shia's pet dogs humping! And then two minutes later, let's show it again. More funny!" If you liked the humping dogs, you'll love his mom's marijuana brownie freak-out, and the guy in the deli with crooked teeth. Oh, and the robot with giant testicles. (Yes, really.) (4) ARBITRARY PLOT. About halfway through the movie, the old British robot explains why it's really important that the heroes get to Egypt and screw around with a lost key to stop the bad guys from activating an ancient machine that will suck up the sun and blah, blah, blah. Michael Bay, if your movie has been going on for over an hour and you still need a random new character to come in and make up a plot for everybody to suddenly start caring about, that is a sign you need to go back to the beginning and try again. (5) CHARACTERS WE DON'T CARE ABOUT. None of the human characters are developed in any way that might make us care about them. Shia's parents are ridiculous cartoons, his college roommate is completely useless, the sinister government official is a two-dimensional hack, etc. We don't care about them, where they go, or what they do. (6) TOO DAMN LOUD. I'm in my 30's and I like listening to loud music and riding loud motorcycles. I am not a grumpy old man. But this movie was just too damn fking loud. Two hours afterwards and my ears are ringing with the signs of hearing loss. F**k you, Michael Bay. (7) EVEN THE ROBOT FIGHTS SUCK. The robots are so complicated, fast-moving, and close to the camera that we can't appreciate the fight choreography when they face off in battle. It's all just a big jumbled blur. When your movie is all about robots fighting, and the robot fights are crap, you have a problem. (8) RIDICULOUS PLOT POINTS. Let's accept that giant alien robots exist and are fighting one another on earth. Fine. I can accept that. But I can't accept that the US military operates freely in China, or that it has been able to cleverly cover up the fact that it is fighting giant frickin' robots in major cities all around the world, so no civilians know what's really going on. I also will give a shiny nickel to anyone who can explain to me how the old robot instantly transported himself and the human characters to Egypt. Or how the long-lost robot key crumbled to powder, but then somehow turned back into to its original shape, even after Shia clearly spilled some of the powder back in the cave. Or how Shia has a vision of Transformer Heaven on his deathbed. Or... (9) SPIN, SPIN, SPIN THAT CAMERA! Since nothing much happens in many shots in this movie, and nothing that does happen is particularly meaningful, Michael Bay swings the camera around a lot in a futile attempt to make things interesting. He even does it in a simple scene when Shia and Megan are just standing around talking about him going to college and the camera is spinning around them faster and faster. Stop the movie, I want to get off. (10) TOO DAMN LONG. The plot of this movie, such as it is, is barely enough to sustain a half-hour episode of the old Transformers cartoon. It is not enough to sustain a two-hour-plus movie. The Godfather Part II needed to be a long movie. Transformers II eminently does not. There is more to despise about this movie... much, much, more. This is the stupidest, loudest, worst movie I ever paid to see. Like Billy Madison's speech, everyone is dumber for having seen it. It is an insult to humanity, and if you thought it was good, you should do the world a favor and not breed.
HEY ASSHOLES!!!!! by j-bot	Jun 25th, 2009 12:25:27 AM
Anyone who insults someone for liking or disliking a movie really has a lot of growing up to do.
j-bot by ziggee38	Jun 25th, 2009 12:30:37 AM
My sentiments exactly...
Plot points by Ployd	Jun 25th, 2009 12:51:44 AM
Anyone with half a brain and isn't a chimp could follow the plot. Be honest. Too many of you complaining were already dead-set on hating the movie in the first place, so when or if you saw it, it was never gonna stack up to your expectations. You all just need to relax, take the tree branches out of your collective asses, and just enjoy the film. This is a MAJOR property that will always get MAJOR scrutiny. As I;ve said before, I'm a major fan and despite my trans-geekiness, I realized that Bay was simply putting the world of Transformers into the real world, which is a difficult feat to pull off no matter who you are. He could make the next movie completely CGI with nothing but HUGE robot fights and then bar scenes in the middle just to humanize them, and you people would still bitch. Accept this movie and realize that it's done, the 80's are gone, and we all just need to move forward.
qualopec by Ployd	Jun 25th, 2009 12:52:59 AM
As for Jetfire instantly transporting them, he actually says "Space bridge". Like I said, just listen people.
Ployd by ziggee38	Jun 25th, 2009 12:54:42 AM

Ployd by ziggee38	Jun 25th, 2009 12:56:48 AM
Agreed....I myself wonder if people are actually watching the film....it really is easy to follow if you just pay attention
Ployd by qualopec	Jun 25th, 2009 01:08:16 AM
Oh, he says "Space bridge". My bad, Ploydie, that explains EVERYTHING. The most accurate comment about this film came from huskerdu2 above who wrote, "Stuff just happens."
Tymanasaurus..........about Michael Bay.... by Briannicus	Jun 25th, 2009 01:27:43 AM
For starters, I call it as I see it, I have not watched G1 in a long time so maybe my memory is a tad skewed, but Soundwave sounded pretty damn close to how I remembered him (enough to give me a geek chubby) As far as Avatar goes, I have no problem with it, I love James Cameron but seriously, the 5,000,000 people who keep going on on on about it need to shut the fuck up, I am tiredof hearing about it already and they haven't even put out a proper teaser yet.
Where's my Nickel? by Ployd	Jun 25th, 2009 01:29:52 AM
Qualopec. And it better be shiny too! I'm sorry, it's just GIANT F'IN ROBOTS FROM SPACE, do we really need a quantum theory explanation for how they teleported? REALLY?? If you want shit explained, watch the Discovery Channel where they show how everything in the world works, but don't look for a summer blockbuster to explain it please.
Briannicus by ziggee38	Jun 25th, 2009 01:47:00 AM
I quite agree with you on the avatar bit....come 6 months from now, everyone raving how great it's gonna be will be bitching that it sucks for (insert some random, lame reason here)
Ployd by qualopec	Jun 25th, 2009 02:32:32 AM
Yeah, I know it's science fiction. But good science fiction creates a believable universe with its own consistent rules, even if those rules would never work in reality. I "believe" the teleportation in Star Trek or The Fly, because those movies established the technology and made it make sense within the context of their fictional universes. Similarly, The Matrix laid down the rules for entering the matrix, and then it made sense to watch the movie explore the consequences of those rules. Things happened in those movies for REASONS that the movie set up and followed through on. But as far as I can tell, teleportation -- via "space bridges" or any other method -- is not an established element of the Transformers universe. It's something the writers just made up on the spot because they were TOO FUCKING LAZY to come up with a story that made sense, even within the context of a world where giant intelligent space robots are fighting each other. No, in this movie, "Stuff just happens." That is why it's a stupid movie.
Qualopec you gimboid. by Joely_Boy	Jun 25th, 2009 02:59:22 AM
In the first film Optimus said that they learned everything about humans on the World Wide Web. If the most prominent sites on the web are myspace, facebook and youtube, it's pretty understandable that anyone who only knows these would emulate them. You're a product of your environment. Oh, and you can accept anthropomorphised robots but you can't accept anthropomorphic traits? Bizarre. Wait a minute, why did Legolas walk on top of the snow in LOTR? I never saw an explanation for that in the film! My god! What a stupid movie!
GIMBOID! by ironic_name	Jun 25th, 2009 03:34:10 AM
smoke me a kipper!
RACIST REMARKS BY THE TWINS OFFENSIVE? by VICTORVONCHEESE	Jun 25th, 2009 03:43:53 AM
HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD COMPLAIN IF THEY ACTED LIKE REDNECKS OR IF GOOD FORBID THEY GOT LARRY THE CABLE GUY TO VOICE THEM ,THAT WOULD BE FINE I GUESS.IF A MOVIE HAS YOUNG BLACK PEOPLE IN IT AND THEY ACT LIKE YOUNG BLACK PEOPLE OR WHITE OR SPANISH PEOPLE ACTING WHITE OR SPANISH IS THAT OFFENSIVE. LATIN GRAMMYS AND BET IS OFFENSIVE TO SOME BUT THATS OK I GUESS.
Here's the story for the half-wits by Daredrummer	Jun 25th, 2009 04:36:21 AM
Sigh. First, let me address the no-story-confused-what happened" crowd. Here's the story: The Decepticons, led by their mentor and "spiritual leader" The Fallen, are trying to locate a key to power a machine that will extinguish our sun to create fuel for them. The key is hidden, but hints to the location exist in Sam's brain, who had the info imprinted onto his brain like a photograph when he touched a shard of the Allspark. What the heck is so difficult to understand? Backstory: Long ago, there were a race of 13 beings, called Primes, that harvested suns to create power for their race, but only on systems where there was no sentient life. One turned against the others, seeking the power for his own, willing to exterminate any life to use the machine. The others teamed against him, and sacrificed themselves to hide the only key that can power the machine. Now the Transformer race is looking at slow extinction, and the Decepticons converge on Earth at the guidance of their original mentor to finally use the sun harvester. Again, what is so difficult to understand?
Stoke me a clipper... by Joely_Boy	Jun 25th, 2009 05:03:41 AM
I'll be back before Christmas!
Briannicus by Tymanasaurus	Jun 25th, 2009 05:08:41 AM
Fair enough my friend, fair enough. In future though it might be best to make sure YOUR facts are straight before you launch into a tirade of abuse. It was fun though & kept me more entertained than the film. I should give you the £8 i spent on it!
Oh and....... by Tymanasaurus	Jun 25th, 2009 05:25:26 AM
To be fair i thought that Soundwave in the film was really cool. Having him in orbit relaying info & co-ordinating the Decepticon groundforces was a nice touch. Just a real shame about the voice. Soundwave without his trademark vocoder voice is a bit like Spock without pointy ears.
Joely_Boy by qualopec	Jun 25th, 2009 06:32:03 AM
Yeah, I heard about that "we learned about humans on the Web" deal. That is a stupid, after-the-fact attempt at explaining the inexplicable. I guess Jetfire was watching a really old British version of YouTube a hundred years ago right? And I guess the Twins "learned" how to have gold buck teeth and big ears and lips. Stupid, stupid, stupid. In time, you may learn how to tell the difference between intelligent plot points and bullshit ex post facto rationalizations. Consider it something to shoot for in the course of your own personal development.
Daredrummer by qualopec	Jun 25th, 2009 06:38:32 AM
Daredrummer, the problem is not that Bay never provides an explanation for everything; it's that the explanation is so random, convoluted, and unconnected to most of what goes on in the movie that it's impossible to care about it at all. In a good movie, we would UNDERSTAND and CARE ABOUT what's going on without a character like Jetfire showing up 90 minutes in to vomit a pile of exposition into our laps. That's just bad screenwriting. I read somewhere that Bay thought up the action sequences in this film first, and then told the writers to whip up a story that tied them together. It shows.
why? by wartown	Jun 25th, 2009 06:55:33 AM
why must everything be like what you remembered growing up? I haven't seen it yet, but why does it really matter if soundwaves voice is the same from the cartoon days. That was over 20 years ago. This movie is going to do just what the other one did, and that's take all of those that were fans of the cartoon back to being 5 yrs old again and I'll enjoy it for that reason alone.
Saw it last night.... by orenishii	Jun 25th, 2009 06:59:46 AM
I loved the first Transformers it was awesome to see realistic looking robots fighting and IMO thought the CGI was seamless. I do not know how in the world you could screw up something so simple. It was like when Indy5 was over and I was walking out thinking "were we punked" I wa confused scratching my head...WTF! (South Park's Lucas/Spielberg raped Indiana Jones was hilarious) ...T4, WTF? I am getting really sick and tired of getting my hopes up for all this shit. Star Trek? really? that was way overrated or are we just getting used to shitty movies? ok...anyways....I will say this about Transformers2 if I knew what I know now I would've still saw it in a theater. I have to see it again (DVD) because there was so much shit in that movie I might get more out of it the 2nd time. did anyone see that 2012 piece of shit? I don't think 9 looks interesting either, not as bad as 2012 but eh...So now my whole summer is riding on HP.....
and.....*SPOILER* by orenishii	Jun 25th, 2009 07:14:30 AM
what the he'll was up with the army dropping a "dead" Optimus Prime onto the tarmac? they had like 30' to lower him kindly down and instead they cut the bindings and drop him ......everyone was laughing cuz it was so absurd...this movie was nothing like the first.
indy4....not 5 sorry brain still down from T2 by orenishii	Jun 25th, 2009 07:30:48 AM

orenishii by qualopec	Jun 25th, 2009 07:43:08 AM
Awesome point, O-ren. My buds and I cracked up at how stupid that was, that they just dropped Optimus to the ground like a hunk of garbage. Similar to when the good guys are in the Egyptian temple and they discover a crack in the wall that could be a way into the lost tomb... so Bumblebee just blasts the shit out of it with his rocket launcher or whatever. Because when you are looking for a crucial lost artifact, you obviously want to be blowing everything up into smithereens with big explosions.
Just sa by qualopec	Jun 25th, 2009 07:50:10 AM

Qualopec by Joely_Boy	Jun 25th, 2009 07:55:35 AM
After the fact?! It was explained one minute after you met the transformers in the first film. Whoops! I'm glad Michael Bay thought up the action sequences first, they're the most important part of the fuckin' film! Just like the carnage is the most important part of Hostel, and fighting is the most important part of any Bruce Lee film. This is an explosion movie, can't you see that?
Addendum by Joely_Boy	Jun 25th, 2009 07:59:02 AM
As I said before: You can accept anthropomorphised robots but you can't accept anthropomorphic traits?
Ployd, you don't know your transformers by baba-lou2	Jun 25th, 2009 08:12:57 AM
Space Bridges are Transformer canon. What a lot of bitching over very little. The "Testicle issue"? maybe 3 seconds.. The twins? no more offensive to me than Bernie Mac yelling at his "mammy" or Anthony Anderson's Hacker character in the first movie. Wheelie humping Megan Fox's leg? You would if you could, so shut up about it. what I don't understand is why they just didn't go with the Quintessons rather than make up this race of "Primes"
and this didn't help one bit ... by orenishii	Jun 25th, 2009 08:23:03 AM
The movie is pretty long with a lot of boring parts and I typically do not have to use the restroom but I looked at the time and had a good 40-45mins to go so I left… at what I thought was a slow part…. I get back, I swear less than 5 mins later and I’m like “what?...when in the hell did Sam’s hand get bandaged? mmm….Ok? That’s weird”, about 20 mins later…”What? Destroy our sun? Since when were we told that they wanted to destroy our sun?” Within 5 mins Sam had his hand bandaged and we were told about the destroy-our-sun plot…..so I missed the complete plot of the whole movie by missing 5 mins of a 2.5 hr long film…. Did anyone get a ‘Species’ vibe from Alice? Also the Fallen looked like he was in the Queen’s nest from the Aliens Trilogy. It was as if different writers rented out movie time slots. “Ok, writer #1 you get from 00:00-00:20, writer 2 gets 00:20-00:30…” I never post anything…I have always been a lurker but this has been the worst summer movie season yet and there seems to be no end.
Fuck off comic book guy! by scorpio1979	Jun 25th, 2009 08:38:05 AM
If you ACTUALLY saw it and didn't like it....Hey whatever, that's your opinion. I haven't seen it yet...but I will tonight. What pisses me off to no end is how fucking stupid most of you talkbackers are (will probably get banned for this). Not every movie has to be the "worst movie ever"...it's okay to like some movies...really...I don't know if you think hating everything will make you cool or somehow get you money to move out of mom's basement or what...but GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELVES!!!! You shit your pants and jerk off to almost every trailer of every shitty movie that's made and then BEFORE YOU EVEN SEE THE FUCKING MOVIE...BITCH ABOUT IT... This has little to do with Transformers except the sheer number of you who have yet to see it and still say it's a bad movie....if you haven't seen it SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
Like Pisschrist by Joely_Boy	Jun 25th, 2009 08:48:42 AM
You have to admit it's a great thing to have people be so vocal about your work. This is what art is all about, regardless of what it actually is. To produce a film that people watch once and just say "meh" and nothing more would be so disappointing.
Baba-Lou2 by Ployd	Jun 25th, 2009 08:49:04 AM
I don't know my transformers?? I'm the one who said something about the Space Bridge, Qualopec was the one bitching, learn to read please. I completely agree with you scorpio1979, as much as people are bitching about the film and how much they hate Bay, they're going to watch it. The movie already made over $100 mil just from the midnight opening, so obviously there are people out there who like this series. So stop the hate ok people? And i swear, if you people keep acting like you didn't know what was going on, you might want to swtich to less complicated films, like the Care Bears Movie or Watching Paint Dry.
By any standards - this is a bad movie - SPOILERS by Movietool	Jun 25th, 2009 08:56:44 AM
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen isn't just a bad movie. It's an offensively bad movie. Because the filmakers clearly didn't care about what they were making at all. Look, I'm a geek. Optimus Prime dying in the 1986 Transformers movie was one of the most vivid memories of my childhood. I get the transformers. I dug the original series and quite a few of the generations that came after. I read the comics. No one wanted this movie to be great more than me. But if you can't recognize that this is one of the worst movies ever made, then you must be brain dead. Great special effects and good cinematography are simply technical feats. They have their own inherit artistry to be sure, but they have nothing, NOTHING to do with making a movie good. Story is king, and the "story" that T:RotF tries to foist on its audience is so mind-numbingly stupid that I have to wonder if it was really written by human beings. It feels more like it was written by a calculator. "Oh, robots talking in hip-hop jive kind of made the people giggle in the first flick, lets put that into the calculator and multiply by 10 . . . Hey, look! We can have TWO BLATENTLY RACIST robots, with googly eyes and big robot lips in this one! The kids will eat it up! "What next? Well, we had a gravelly voiced villian in the first movie. Get the calculator . . . Great! This time we'll have TWO! That way we can split any character development possible for Megatron in half, in favor of what is essentially an exact duplicate of Megatron, only older. "What next? Well, people dug the hot chick in the first one. This time we'll have TWO hot chicks! And the second one will be a robot! And she'l not move the plot forward one iota, but we'll put her in there anyways so she can look coyly at the camera and make sexualized remarks! It's brilliant!"
I'll defend this movie to the last! by Joely_Boy	Jun 25th, 2009 09:20:14 AM
Story ain't king in a kung fu film... so whaddya say about that? The other chick brought conflict to Sam and Mikaela's relationship.
Also... by Joely_Boy	Jun 25th, 2009 09:28:11 AM
Who says the Twins aren't just niggaz, in the Chris Rock sense? I think it's way more racist that Tarantino says 'niggERS' in Pulp Fiction. And I couldn't even give a fuck about that!
oops by baba-lou2	Jun 25th, 2009 09:36:36 AM
yeah I mixed up topic and author. sorry.
oops by Ployd	Jun 25th, 2009 09:55:17 AM
It's cool. Obviously this is a tense thread and we're all touchy about the subject lol.
**** by THE TRUE PINBACK	Jun 25th, 2009 10:41:51 AM

FUN!!! by THE TRUE PINBACK	Jun 25th, 2009 10:46:57 AM
TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was damn fun to watch...it was like being a kid again! The plot was NOT confusing, the special effects were BREATHTAKING, the soundwor in the film is AWE-INSPIRING, the score was TREMENDOUS, and it was a fun, action filled follow-up to the first, and well-worth bering seen. Now, to address all the bitching and griping going on. The robot with the nuts dangling,, the gamgsta twin robots andthe Joe Pesci robots were rather low-brow humore, BUT it was welcome humor. The only annoying thing to me in the entire film was SHia's roomate...the whiny little bastard was worthless and annoying, much like all of the negative reviews being thrust on this film.
Joely_Boy by qualopec	Jun 25th, 2009 01:16:36 PM
After the fact, in that it was after the cartoon show established these characters as robots that mysteriously talk in perfect, human, English voices with different accents. The cartoon was in the 80's, before the Web was around. So it's an after-the-fact explanation for something that no one cared about in a kid's cartoon, but that looks REALLY stupid in a movie. Anyway, even if you buy the learned-about-humans-on-the-we b deal, why does each robot have a different accent? I guess the little robot watched only Mafia videos, the Twins watched only rap videos, Jetfire watched the BBC... yah, that makes sense. What a stupid frickin' movie this was.
Movietool nails it by qualopec	Jun 25th, 2009 01:19:41 PM
Word up, Movietool. It's sad to watch some people defend utter crap just because it features characters they liked in an old cartoon.
orenishii by qualopec	Jun 25th, 2009 01:25:41 PM

orenishii by qualopec	Jun 25th, 2009 01:37:59 PM
Right on, dude. You actually did walk out during the scene when Turturro yells at Jetfire to tell him the damned plot of the movie. I am not kidding. Then Jetfire explains the whole nonsense about the other Primes, the pyramid machine, etc., etc. Back to explosions. I smell a Best Screenplay Oscar! I've lurked on this site for YEARS (like, since 1999), posting only a few times about random stuff. Transformers 2 was the first movie that was so bad it made me angry enough to log in and post about it in a talkback. I'm not a "hater" who bashes every film. This one just went too far into the realm of stupid for me to take.
orenishii by qualopec	Jun 25th, 2009 01:38:04 PM
Right on, dude. You actually did walk out during the scene when Turturro yells at Jetfire to tell him the damned plot of the movie. I am not kidding. Then Jetfire explains the whole nonsense about the other Primes, the pyramid machine, etc., etc. Back to explosions. I smell a Best Screenplay Oscar! I've lurked on this site for YEARS (like, since 1999), posting only a few times about random stuff. Transformers 2 was the first movie that was so bad it made me angry enough to log in and post about it in a talkback. I'm not a "hater" who bashes every film. This one just went too far into the realm of stupid for me to take.
qualopec by Ployd	Jun 25th, 2009 03:37:26 PM
Then stay a lurker. If you mean to tell me that TF2 was THE worst film since 1999, then you haven't seen much.
Tymanasaurus....... by Briannicus	Jun 25th, 2009 04:50:29 PM
Fair enough, but if you knew me in real life you'd know that those "tirades" you mentioned were nothing more than good natured internet barbs (I was pretty much laughing through the whole ordeal.) Another thing I find rather amusing, Several of my coworkers (who happened to be black) saw the movie and had absolutely NO problem with the twins, I think it's ironic that a good majority of people who are being offended by these so-called racial stereotypes are WHITE. I also loved the way they used soundwave, I really didn't miss the whole vocoder nonsense (I think alot of pop and hip hip music has really made me weary of vocoders anyway.)
I HAVE A QUESTION TO THE PEOPLE THAT SAID THE TWINS WERE STEREOT by VICTORVONCHEESE	Jun 25th, 2009 06:40:50 PM
WERE YOU OFFENDED BY THE MOVIE CARSA FEW YEARS AGO,A SPANISH SPEAKING LOWRIDER, A REDNECK TOW TRUCK AN ITALIAN SPEAKING ITALIAN CAR ,IF THATS NOT STREOTYPICAL THEN WHAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT?
Box Office by Volfan8404	Jun 25th, 2009 07:45:49 PM
Transformers raked in $60.6 Million today. Wow, that's more than The Watchmen made the whole opening weekend...
Bay missed the point bigger than he did when he made Pearl Harbo by jsarnold513	Jun 25th, 2009 11:20:19 PM
I finally got to see it this afternoon after having my expectations lowered by all the negative reviews. I liked the first one despite its flaws so I was glad to see Bay do the second one. Now I wish he'd moved on. Quint's review, and the "too much cake" review are pretty dead on, but the "robo balls," "dog humping," and "twins" weren't nearly as lame as they could have been. However, all the humor fell flat. What really killed it for me was, like Quint said, there was no reason to invest emotionally in any of it at all. The characters gave us no reason to care about anyone in this ridiculous movie, like they (kinda) did in the first, and here we get to know them even less. The appeal of the old 80s cartoons and toys were that you felt like you knew the Transformers as your special robot friends, with the Autobots being your buddies and the Decepticons your evil, goofy enemies. Here, they're just hunks of talking metal who fight (and fight, and fight, and fight...) each other. That gets really tiresome. Bay just plain missed that and got the feel all wrong. No more sense of wonder, or fun, or adventure. Just lots of running around from giant robot battle to giant robot battle.
Hmmmm Saw the movie today by HermesTrismestigus	Jun 26th, 2009 12:28:16 AM
Thought it was great, so did the audience. Theatre was packed people applauded and laughed throughout and when Micheal Bays name came up at end credits everyone applauded. Checking out all the negative on this site means only one thing to mean, fanboys don't mean a damn thing to hollywood cuz they obviously aren't carrying the movies they love and aren't affecting the movies they hate.
Those accusing the movie of racism by cylon_conspiracy	Jun 26th, 2009 01:08:29 AM
I sure hope you aren't the same folks who watch that show "South Park" which insults just about every minority or special interest group known to man. If any of you laughed at one single joke in that show, you are most likely hypocrites. Self-serving hypocrites.
Briannicus by Tymanasaurus	Jun 26th, 2009 06:13:47 AM
I think Hip Hop will make you weary of most things. I agree about the twins. Personally i hated them but mostly because i thought they were just fucking stupid. However the cinema i saw the film in was in streatham (down the road from brixton) & i'd say a good 90% of the audience were black & they had no problem with the twins at all. In fact judging by the laughter i think they found them hilarious. Which was fucking lucky for me & my mate - it could have got VERY ugly in there. And no, they werent pissed off about the buck tooth butcher working for his new teeth either. As for the good natured internet barbs - we're both on the same page man! I thought that "pea brained illiterate neanderthal" was quite inspired but youve got to admit that "Tymanasaurus superior. Briannicus inferior" was quite funny considering the context of the debate. It's been nearly a week since i saw the film & despite the fact that i think it's mostly garbage im fighting the urge to go back & see it so i can have another look at the transformer bits. They were fantasticly well done & the first thing i noticed is that the editing of the fights has been slowed down a bit & are much easier to follow than in the first one. In fact i'd even go so far as to say that i think Michael Bay showed incredible restraint in some shots....for him anyway. Just dont think i can bring myself to sit through all the crap (in my opinion) though. I also thought it was quite a bit harsh of the military to just dump Optimus dead body onto the tarmac like that. He was a badass in this film. Well...when he was in it anyway.
The twins aren't racist...YOU are by Daredrummer	Jun 26th, 2009 07:07:49 AM
Oh, the twins aren't racist...PEOPLE are. I mean seriously...they are just goofy teenagers meant to be a slight joke on modern American teen pop culture. If a person takes them, a GREEN tf and an ORANGE tf, and says that they are somehow african-american, then they are simply saying that's how [b]they[/b] think "black people" act, so THEY are the ones being racist. Duh.
I thought it was great by vince_klortho	Jun 26th, 2009 01:25:02 PM
Just like the first, it had great action and the cgi was amazing, it was funny. Not bad for a movie based on action figures. I just don't get the hate towards the film. How come when people point out all the plot holes and stupid crap in Star Trek, it's like "who cares, it was fun and entertaining", and Transformers has to be Lawrence of Arabia all of a sudden.
I thought it was great by vince_klortho	Jun 26th, 2009 01:27:43 PM
Just like the first, it had great action and the cgi was amazing, it was funny. Not bad for a movie based on action figures. I just don't get the hate towards the film. How come when people point out all the plot holes and stupid crap in Star Trek, it's like "who cares, it was fun and entertaining", and Transformers has to be Lawrence of Arabia all of a sudden.
True enough Tyman..... by Briannicus	Jun 26th, 2009 04:30:04 PM
It's all about opinions, some people will like the twins some won't, same with the movie...ya know ya gotta take everything with a grain of salt anyway. I've developed quite a quick wit when insulting people, some can handle it, some can't. Only thing I can figure with Optimus and the tarmac, maybe they thought the L.Z. was too hot, dropped him off and ran, At any rate, he MORE than made up for the little bit of screentime he DID have. Maybe a second viewing would bring a different perspective anyway, been several movies I've seen that took a couple viewings to really grow on me.
I liked it. by Sal_Bando	Jun 28th, 2009 05:00:38 PM
It's like the first one, I thought they could have cut out much of the goofy Shia family stuff and survived just fine, but okay--that was okay too. Typical hit and run Family Guy type Bay homour. I had fun with the fights, the huge array of robots in the fight scenes, thought the whole 'Destroy the Sun to power our Batteries' plotline silly but whatever. This IS a cartoon we're watching, after all.
Rearding Soundwave. by Briannicus	Jun 28th, 2009 07:02:05 PM
Someone said he sounded more like Galvatron than Soundwave, I disagree, I think he sounded more like Dr Claw from Inspector Gadget (who is also voiced by the same person) At any rate, i think the voice fit the bot just fine.
ployd by slkboxrman	Jul 1st, 2009 03:47:52 PM
ur wasting your time with qualopecker or whatever his name is and movietool, well his name explains it, hes a tool, lol....if they dont know that a "space bridge" is a well established part of the transformers universe then he hasnt seen much transformers...was used in G-1 alot and in the cartoon "robots in disguise" to travel around the earth...so shame on him....the way he posted im thinkin he's someone else called "trannyformers", he used to make big numbered points about why the movie would suck...i thought the plot was great, the movie was great, will make lots of money, cant wait for part 3...the fanboys are just upset again that the movie wasnt a carbon copy of the cartoon...too loud ? are u kidding ?? too much goin on ??? are u blind ??? no plot ?? are u dumb ?? ...
2 hot chicks? by Bouncy X	Jul 2nd, 2009 07:05:06 AM
sam's mom was sorta pretty for a mom i guess but yeah, other than megan fox who else was there? cuz that "pretender" chick sure wasn't that great looking. and how is it that megan looked younger this time around?

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