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Johnny Depp Sez PIRATES 4 To Be A Beckett Play Featuring Captain Jack Sparrow As A Geisha!

More geisha by imagin78	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:26:29 AM
Public Enemies is the only bright spot this summer.
1st by RedHorseVector	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:27:06 AM
fuckers.
2nd by Droogie Alex	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:27:10 AM

I was first. by imagin78	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:27:22 AM
Now I can go to sleep knowing that I have meaning and purpose in this life.
why did i even bother. by RedHorseVector	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:27:43 AM
:(
FIRST? by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:28:57 AM
Ah Damn, why do I bother anymore?
Jack Sparrow meets Zatoichi by CENOBITE	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:30:21 AM
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Redacted="brilliant" performance or "shitty" performance? by Executor	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:31:52 AM
What say you? Thumbs up? Down? Looking forward to it so hopefully positive...
Stop with the Pirates!!!! by Gabba-UK	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:32:48 AM
2 and 3 were disasters on a Reloaded/Revalations scale. They were BAD movies. You might have had a blast making them Johnny, the same could not be said for those who had to sit through them. Bad, bad movies.
NO PLEASE GOD NOOOOO by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:33:47 AM
The third one ended well enough But why was that movie so damn long?
trend of complex stories in summer movies lately? by BMacSmith	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:35:44 AM
not complex as in 'layered' or 'good', complex as in needlessly complicated. Pirates 2 and especially 3 suffered from it, Star Trek's weakest point was the story, and Transformers 2 is both stupid and complicated, magnifiying its stupidity even more. I'm not saying the story cant have a lot going on, but why add plot threads arbitrarily? Pirates 1 and Iron Man, for example, were simple movies and they worked perfectly.
RedHorseVector by Daremo	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:36:08 AM
Nothing on this site brings me more joy, when a "First" douche bag like yourself FAILS. So, your clever and oh so proud remark of "fuckers" can now be changed to "I'm a loser." Enjoy your pathetic night. You've earned it.
More Pirates is cool... by GunterMonkey	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:37:13 AM
Just give the man a decent script...All 3 Pirate movies were fun, escapist movie magic. Brought back memories of the Star Wars days...
id like another Pirates if its smaller by BMacSmith	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:37:22 AM
3 was just too big and stupid. something like the first one could be cool, but i hate sequels so i really dont give a shit.
The sequels, especially the second, were great by GunterMonkey	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:38:46 AM
Yes, too long, but brought back the adventure/humor of early 80s flicks...
The movies don't have to be soo damn long by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:42:01 AM
And get rid of the voodoo lady. She was terrible. God. What a waste. At least the Pirates movies had better acting than the Star Wars prequels.
LOVED Dead Man's Chest... by TheMarineBiologist	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:48:16 AM
It was a great swashbuckle-y treasure hunting flick... At World's End, on the other end, was quite... well... terrible.
I love Dead Man's Chest by D.Vader	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:48:30 AM
Love the Kracken scenes. And what's wrong with summer movies at least attempting to be a bit complex? I'm with the writers who said they hoped the audience was smart enough to follow the action and that they didn't want to overtly spell everything out for everyone. I like that each character in the films has a motivation and a reason for being. The films may have been a bit large because of that, but there's nothing wrong with it in theory.
i liked the first 2 and the end of 3 by BMacSmith	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:48:44 AM
the other two hours of part 3 were a mess. yeah, the voodoo woman was useless.
Great character / actor, wasted potential. by Dingbatty	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:49:57 AM
Actual piracy would be cool. Simpler story, tighter plot like the first movie, I agree. Keep the fantasy, set it in The Golden Age of Piracy in the 1600s. Perhaps he gets sent back via the Bermuda Triangle.
I agree, D. Vader by GunterMonkey	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:50:54 AM
Dead Man's Chest was a great fantasy/adventure film...the sequel was even better than the original...
definitely liked pirates more than the matrix by Willy_Idle	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:52:39 AM
although a fourth might be a bit much
Depp = God by billyhitchcock	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:53:37 AM
I would watch him read the phone book. Roll on 2012 or whenever it is Pirates 4 comes out.
D.Vader by BMacSmith	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:54:56 AM
i dont care if the plots are complicated if they need to be. Simple stories can work just as well, and often better. Pirates 3 was the perfect example. the stupid voodoo god woman, all the crap with the asian pirates and the pirate captains, the constant double-crossing etc. how much of that movie was confusing just to be confusing? none of it was central to the story. it was just fluff. Pirates was a purely visceral experience, emphasing fun and adventure. hardly the place for Matrix type plots.
Good to see the Pirates love... by GunterMonkey	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:57:03 AM
I have a feeling these films will become the next generation's Star Wars, and 20 years from now they'll be arguing about the prequels to Pirates right here on AICN.
what's the story about depp nearly being fired? by Ray Gamma	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:57:25 AM
i somehow missed that one. anyone?
Yeah what's the story there? by DOGSOUP	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:00:50 AM
I'd like to know as well
PotC = Indiana Jones by RandySavage	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:01:45 AM
Both franchises revolve around an iconic, charismatic, ne'er-do-well adventurer set in a quasi-historic universe that features the fantastical. In terms of quality, Raiders is on its own levels, but I put the Pirates films on the same scale as Indy II & III. So I welcome a fourth PotC, just as I welcomed a fourth Indy. And I expect the pirates team will deliver a better film than Crystal Skull.
plus by billyhitchcock	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:01:49 AM
why should blockbusters only be for stupid people? with pirates they've created a whole new genre. and they should make 20 more, if only for the amazing world and characters they've created.
BMacSmith, you say "Matrix type plots" by D.Vader	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:02:09 AM
And yet I think the Matrix plots were more simplistic than Pirates. Honestly, the point of all the complexity was to a. give every character motivation and reason for being and b. to show how everyone is a pirate in some way looking out for their own self interests. I agree that it was a tad confusing the first time I saw it, but that's because I had expected everything to be cut and dry, good guy vs bad guy, etc. So when pple started double-crossing and playing others, I got confused because I didn't expect that level of complexity from this kind of fantasy/adventure film. It made things interesting bc you didn't know who you could trust or who was merely pretending to double-cross. It certainly made it a bit unpredictable, which is appreciated. Definitely didn't see that ending coming in pt III.
There is no "next" Star Wars. by gotilk	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:02:53 AM
That film shocked people who watched it. Nothing shocks anymore. Novelty is near death. I could only see the arrival of hyper-real VR in actual 3d having the same kind of impact. (oddly, still quite a ways off) But a film? Or a film series? Not likely. We'll have great cinema, but I doubt anything will have that kind of impact. And no, eyeball fucking doesn't count.
Johnny Depp almost getting fired... by D.Vader	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:04:28 AM
Its an old story from the first one regarding Johnny's original take on the character and how far he wanted to go with it. At first he wanted Jack to have an entire set of gold teeth and a broken nose that was barely hanging on by some threadbare home remedy. Bruckheimer told him to pull it back, but even in its current incarnation- a drunk, effeminate, slightly mad pirate- was a risk that Depp felt may not go over too well with those in charge.
Agreed Gunter by D.Vader	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:06:38 AM
I think Dead Man's Chest is the best of the series. Bill Nighy's performance as Davy Jones and the effects work that helped bring him to life is simply fantastic. A classic cinematic character.
Pirates 3 is almost a great movie by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:07:28 AM
But it is too long, and needlessly complicated. All those pirates didn't need to be brought together. Maybe one or two, but they didn't even use them in the final battle.
^About Depp nearly being fired... by RandySavage	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:07:47 AM
When the first dailys came in of Depp's slightly effeminate, wobbly take on Jack Sparrow, some execs (former WDP head Nina Jacobson) freaked out and wanted him to play it straight. Verbinski was content to let Depp act it the way he envisioned and Depp was unwilling to change his character (although I don't think he came very close to actually getting axed) In the end, Dick Cook, chairman of the motion picture unit, was shown footage and gave Depp's Sparrow the greenlight. Had Depp not created the character he did, the film would not be nearly as memorable, may not have grossed nearly as much or spawned sequels. Disney owes Depp a lot for that.
well by BMacSmith	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:09:21 AM
i thought the first one already did a good job of showing pirates were shifty, i wasnt really suprised, just annoyed. 3 was just pointlessly complicated. it added a ton of characters i didnt care about, and then threw them away soon after. None of the God stuff was even talked about in the first 2, then it was just dumped on my lap (and didnt make much sense). I liked the end though, once it just settled on the main story.
Agreed, Randy by D.Vader	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:10:52 AM
While the movies are fun and entertaining, Depp made those films what they are.
BMac, do you mean Calypso herself? by D.Vader	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:13:25 AM
Or the idea of heathen Gods? Because that idea was introduced in the first film; they were the ones that cursed the gold. Yeah, Calypso wasn't introduced as an idea until the 3rd, but I don't think that idea would have had any place in the 2nd film since it wouldn't have had any sort of resolution and would have remained some offhand remark the way I imagine it.
The sequels just needed tightening by performingmonkey	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:15:25 AM
Chop 20 minutes of each (pretty easy thing to do seeing as there's what feels like a pointless 20 min interlude in each one) and you've got much better movies. Black Pearl was also slightly too long but that was acceptable because IMO it was so great. This 4th flick should obviously be more like Black Pearl but with new stuff (obviously), not much longer than 2 hours.
Part 3 really fucked up the Turner characters by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:19:38 AM
It was going good until Wil had to take over for Davey Jones, and Elizabeth had to wait for him. WTF was that shit? They got married, Nice ending, didn't have to fuck that one up. Also, they killed Norrington which was really shitty.
Lockesbrokenleg, you're nuts! by D.Vader	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:22:55 AM
That ending with the Turners was great! Wow, for once in a summer Hollywood blockbuster, the romantic couple doesn't get a truly happy ending. Will has a destiny no one saw coming, but its an important one. I'm glad it didn't end like the first one with them living happily ever after. Sacrifices were made. I dig it.
"There is no "next" Star Wars." by RandySavage	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:30:47 AM
To Gotilk's point; having just watched the original Star Wars on DVD, those space battle model effects still hold up as well as the CGI FXs used today. Now imagine going into the cinema in the late 1970s and seeing something that could have been transplanted from 2009... it's the very definition of mind-blowing. And no wonder people saw it in theater 100 times that summer. Nothing close to being that revolutionary in cinema is on the horizon. We should be gawking at the recent 2012 clip of an aircraft carrier smashing the whitehouse, but VFX fatique has set in. That said, Pirates has some great characters, a cool universe, but, yes, all 3 could use some tightening. Bring on Sparrow, Barbossa, and keep it lean and mean.
just dont bring back the Turners, please by BMacSmith	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:39:39 AM
their story is finished. They are just dead weight now.
I don't know. I just don't like it. by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:43:52 AM
If you wanted to have a twist, then have them get married, then have one of them get killed, but that 10 years thing kinda came out of nowhere.
The pirates sequels should have been stand alone stories by IndustryKiller!	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:48:48 AM
They should never have tried to bridge them into one film. Getting that needlessly ambitious was a death knell.
I'm embarassed for everyone who watched and liked those movies by felwithe	Jun 23rd, 2009 03:23:35 AM

WELL NOW CAPTAIN JACK WILL GET YA HIGH TONIGHT! by The Amazing G	Jun 23rd, 2009 03:39:37 AM
AND TAKE YA TO YOUR SPECIAL ISLAND!
Thank god people who recognize 2 was the best by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Jun 23rd, 2009 03:46:10 AM
I thought I was alone there.
anyway the POTC movies were fun... by The Amazing G	Jun 23rd, 2009 03:50:28 AM
sure the plot gets a little out there, but pound for pound they're allot better than most of the "Blockbusters" that have come out this decade
STOP FUCKING AROUND, DEPP... by 11dayempire	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:08:19 AM
...and do Don Quixote with Gilliam. The world does not need Pirates 4.
For me, as bad as Bayformers by Mr Gorilla	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:23:36 AM
OK - not quite as bad, the rampant sexism isn't there, nor is the pornographic attitude to violence. But in terms of bad, vapid plotting, feeble humour and so on, I thought the first film was a new low. (And people actually thought it was GOOD?) And what I hear about the other two has kept me well away. However, unlike Bayformers, these films seem to have plenty of admirers in these parts...
POTC 3 = Epic fail by VoldemortWearsPrada	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:28:43 AM
Hollywood bloat at its worst - my partner was so incensed at being charged five bucks to rent this incoherent mess that he nearly put a fist throught the screen. It felt like they were literally making it up as they went along. Yo ho, yo ho, no more of this franchise for me!
Public Enemies, 5-star EMPIRE review by yodalovesyou	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:30:43 AM
http://www.empireonline.com/re views/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=1 36004
At World's End by yodalovesyou	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:34:14 AM
Is bold and brave film making that has far more imagination, inventiveness and boldness that anything Christopher forkin' Nolan can come up with. From all the crazy shit in Davey Jones's Locker to the Maelstrom battle at the end, At World's End is a ballsy epic full of insane ideas and boundless imagination. If you found the plot too hard to follow, tough shit.
Thank god for Michael Mann & Kathryn Bigelow by kwisatzhaderach	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:18:11 AM
The summer isn't a complete write-off after all.
The one thing abut the pirates movies by emeraldboy	Jun 23rd, 2009 05:29:27 AM
was that they all outstanding production values. They were sumptious to look at. But they were carried by two of the most boring actors working in cinema today. Keira Knightely and Orlando Bloom who have all the acting ability and Charisma of mannequins. or dried paint. I saw jo wright's pride and prejuidce and remain unconvinced of So call superior directing talent. I just found the whole thing flat. He did what all brit filmakers do. give out about hollywood and then realise that is where it all happens. Has anyone heard anything about the soloist with downey jnr and Jamie Foxx. I saw the trailer and though it was very ordinary looking.
yodalovesyou by Mr Gorilla	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:09:35 AM
there is difference between complex and incoherent. Something like HEAT is complex - loads of different storylines and ideas and characters. PIRATES 3 is incoherant - a bit like dog shit when the dog has been let loose in an Indian restaurant.
POTC3= rape scene, sex on th beach by ZombieHeathLedger	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:26:15 AM
All in a Disney flick. I did like how it ended with Sparrow searching for Ponce De Leon's Fountain of Youth. That's part 4 right there. I think there will be at least three more pirate movies. They just make too much money for Disney/Depp for them both to say no. As for Depp wanting to play Sparrow as a Geisha, well he could just re-use his Mad Hatter make-up. And as for Lone Ranger wasn't it announced way back when that he was actually going to play Tonto and not the LR?
Mr Gorilla by yodalovesyou	Jun 23rd, 2009 06:46:57 AM
You can't change my mind. My mind is unchangeable.
I thought we are beyond pirates fad by Dingbatty	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:10:13 AM
anyway? Shouldn't we be on to ninja, now?
As stoic as Depp is in real life, he gets the joke by terry1978	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:11:26 AM
He knows what the fan masses want and think, he's aware of how retarded he has to act on screen in certain roles, and yet still pulls it off. He's actually a pretty funny guy.
Can this next one be FUN? by Nasty In The Pasty	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:16:36 AM
And not run as long as a fucking David Lean movie?
It better be fucking long movie by Cronkit	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:44:58 AM
nasty, you have ADD. you should get that looked st FAG.
I by Thunderbolt Ross	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:46:40 AM

Ionesco by Thunderbolt Ross	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:47:39 AM
That's what I was trying to type. Anyway - Lone Ranger by way of ol' Eugene sounds like perhaps the worst movie ever - in a good way. Do it.
Plot of Pirates 4... by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:52:55 AM
Captain Jack travels through time to the present day and takes on modern pirates in Somalia.
Ahhhhh by Semen Stains	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:56:18 AM
The remorse of the first poster who misses out and in doing so makes himself look the biggest twat ever.
Space pirate? Butt pirate? by Cronkit	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:56:53 AM
He could do them all. JD one of the greats. He really is.
I LOVE the Pirate films by Logan_1973	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:59:13 AM
AT WORLD'S END will always rank in my to 10.
Im down for another Pirates as long as by hopeless	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:05:08 AM
There is no Wil Turner and his bitch!
Depp = Buddha by jackknifed_juggernaut	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:05:21 AM
the man can do no wrong. and yes, Sweeney Todd was brilliant. bring on POTC4. bring on Alice in Wonderland.
The "movie was too long" whining... by Logan_1973	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:05:50 AM
Thanks to the ultra-light attention span of the average movie goer, the age of the 2.5-3 hour films is dying fast. Look at some of the greats over years: GODFATHER, TITANIC, TEN COMMANDMENTS, LOTR...all epic stuff. It's so sad the the hi-speed downloading twitter generation can't hack it. They want the entire film in 80 minutes or it's hated. That's why I give much respect to Verbinski and Bay. They're not afraid of cutting a "long" film.
Loved the first, enjoyed the second... by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:09:34 AM
But AT World's End was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. They started shooting before the script was even finished and it shows. The whole plot revolves around Will Turner and all the rest of them having to go rescue Jack from Davey Jone's locker because he is one of the pirate lords and they need him in order to unite all the pirate clans of the world against the evil East India Trading Company. Ok fine, except at the end of the movie all those other pirates just stand around and watch as the Black Pearl fights the Dutchman in a whirlpool. SO WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT? Oh, and another thing that pissed me off was that there's only one action scene in the entire movie- the whirlpool fight at the end. Ok you've got the stuff in Shanghai at the start where everyone's running around like headless chickens but it's not exactly the Will/Jack sword fight from the start of COTBP or the mill wheel sequence from DMC is it? Seriously, can anybody name another action setpiece from that movie?
Captain Jack Sparrow and the Pirates of the Caribbean! by dailysportspages	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:16:01 AM
Captain Jack Sparrow and the Pirates of the Caribbean! Hows that for a title? Make the new fourth movie the potential starter to a brand new trilogy. Get rid of the cast from the first 3 films, save the title character of course... and maybe Barbossa and some Black Pearl crew. The Plot Jack rides out in his little boat heading to find the Fountain of Youth. First he stops in New Orleans to get himself supplies... namely RUM. But wait... who is there? None other than Hector Barbossa who insists on coming along. (insert some plot device to get them back together) They set out following the directions of his magical compass... but it leads them straight to the Bermuda Triangle. Thats because the only way to get to the Fountain of Youth is through the mystical energy of the triangle. What the triangle actually does though is pull the Black Pearl into a vortex that sucks them into the ocean, only to deposit them right back where they started... except 100 years in the past! Their ship destroyed, their crew mostly dead/missing, and stranded on a huge desert island on the OTHER side of the american continent. In the pacific ocean. They are on the island of California. And island inhabited by golden bears and black amazon women and their Queen Califia... who just happens to be a nymph. And amazing adventures are had by all, of course. Yes, this is sort of a like a sequel/prequel all rolled into one. The next movie can have Sparrow continue his search for the Fountain of Youth, this time arriving in a new ship (or reconstituted black pearl) off the coasts of South America. He is sent here by Queen Califia in order to find her long lost sister, the nymph Calypso who had gone in search of the city made of gold. Jack must sail down the banks of the Amazon river in order to find himself with the young Calypso once again... or for the first time, depending on your POV. She seduces him, but eventually gives him the final clue he needs in order to fulfill his quest. He has a new bearing on his compass, northwest... leading directly back to the Caribbean. The third movie has Jack making his triumphant return to the Caribbean and making his way to the Fountain of Youth located in southern Florida. Changing history along the way.
black pearl was the only good pirates movie by hulkbuster	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:18:45 AM
nuff said
Depp = The Lone Ranger? by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:22:34 AM
Yes please!
Yes. im talking about making them Jack centric. by dailysportspages	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:24:08 AM
And having new supporting characters that he picks up in his travels. Like maybe his "sidekick" could be the Keith Richards character, but in his much much younger years. Jacks father when the father was a young privateer slowly getting involved in piracy. That whole angle of Jack mentoring his own father would be pretty neat. And that would mean casting someone to play a young Richards... which is already what Depp is supposedly doing. So in essence you would have to cast a young Depp type. Like Jack Huston or someone like that. Yikes... imagine he meets the women that is to be his mom... but all he knows is that he finds her irresistiblly attractive. Wait, i think i just described Back To The Future.
The first POTC is fantastic, the other two... by Orbots Commander	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:26:23 AM
...not so much. Parts 2 & 3 suffered from extreme bloat. Dead Man's Chest had some nice moments, but it could have lost 30-40 minutes and you wouldn't have missed it. At World's End is the worst of the three and is such a mess of a movie that it's barely watchable. If they do a fourth, Bruckheimer should strive to keep the runtime at 90 minutes, akin to the old Errol Flynn swashbucklers that were only about that long and worked superbly.
15 minutes into POTC 3... by Tenenbaum	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:29:12 AM
I was already looking at my watch. Unfortunately I had another 2.5 hours of incoherent mess to endure.
FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS by Orbots Commander	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:29:27 AM
No, from what I've read, Depp is Tonto, but obviously it's not a supporting part. It'll be a team-up movie (think: Rush Hour as a western).
BMacSmith: by Sith Witch	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:36:17 AM
The Turners aren't gone! Watch the clip after the credits of the 3rd film.
The first Pirates film was perfect summer entertainment. by rbatty024	Jun 23rd, 2009 08:59:01 AM
Too bad they dropped the ball with the second two films. It was like The Matrix Trilogy all over again.
Orbots Commander by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:00:39 AM
Ah ok. Depp probably would make a better Tonto. I grew up loving The Lone Ranger, so this has me way more excited than a 4th Pirates.
Re-watched Pirates 3 recently by sapno_krei	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:04:59 AM
There are so many good bits that movie. The action is awesome, the effects flawless. All the characters have their story arcs resolved in a pretty satisfying way. I even liked the return of those comic relief soldiers / guards. But jeez, did the movie have to be 3 frickin' hours long? Someone needs to Phantom Edit that thing into something watchable in one sitting.
Pirates 3 Phantom by Orbots Commander	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:13:06 AM

Pirates 3 Phantom Edit. by Orbots Commander	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:14:51 AM
(Stupid fingers, damn no 'Edit' button) Pirates 3 could be cut way down; there's probably a really good 80 minute movie lost in that 3hr. length.
ALLAH APPROVES OF JOHNNY by AyatollahSexyBack	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:22:43 AM
My fatwas are favorable on his choices of film.
RUDY YOUNGBLOOD IS TONTO by AyatollahSexyBack	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:24:42 AM
And get Q'Orianka Kilcher in this too.
depp is awesome by idrinkyourmilkshake	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:36:53 AM
but i agree, those last 2 pirate films were fucking odd.I DIDNT SEE THE POINT OF ALOT OF (OTHER THAN BEING designed as entertianment for the 5-10 year old crowd)..like when there are multiple johnnies.
Pirates 4 would be an obscene payday by Rupee88	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:45:55 AM
that's the only reason he would consider it..he could probably buy a few more islands. Love JD.
It's kind of odd that Depp is a huge star now. by Orbots Commander	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:04:02 AM
The guy is a great actor, but he is essentially a character actor in a leading man's body. Before the first POTC he was making good movies that were cult favorites, like BLOW, and middling suspense thrillers that wound up in DVD bargain bins. All of a sudden, after PIRATES he's an A-list star. It's weird sometimes who breaks out and becomes a huge star and who doesn't.
lol @ Orbots Commander by RKDN	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:14:02 AM
Cry Baby Edward Scissorhands Ed Wood none of this rings a bell - none of this?
what about Rum Diary??? by 8footTallGopher	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:19:38 AM
gonzo forever....
RKDN by Orbots Commander	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:22:34 AM
Those weren't huge box office. They were cult hits. You're telling me that Depp was earning $20 Million-$30 Million a piece for Cry Baby, Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood? Now, they're all great movies. I'm not denying that. But after POTC he became an A-list, Studio Tentpole Summer Movie Mega-star.
DEPP ENJOYS 100% APPROVAL RATING FROM TALKBACK COMMUNITY by AyatollahSexyBack	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:37:04 AM
As I do.
Depp needs to work with Spielberg. by Orbots Commander	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:46:11 AM
That would be an interesting as hell team-up: Johnny Depp in a Spielberg-directed movie.
Less wacky CGI monsters by Darth Busey	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:15:20 AM
more raping and pillaging.
WHAT ABOUT 21 JUMP STREET THE MOTION PICTURE? by AyatollahSexyBack	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:20:36 AM
Dustin Nguyen and Holly Robinson are famished!
i'd love to see Depp in a non-Batman related by jackknifed_juggernaut	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:22:02 AM
Nolan film. Bale himself would be forced to bow before the resultant awesomeness... as would we all.
BALE IS THE MOST HUMBLE by AyatollahSexyBack	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:26:18 AM
of all deities. He acknowledges Depp's greatness.
and Ayatollah, what about Dom DeLeuise's kid? by jackknifed_juggernaut	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:31:40 AM
if he isn't dead like his pops (he may be... haven't seen his ass in anything since Jump Street), i'm sure he wouldn't turn the gig down.
I'm assuming a press junket for PUBLIC ENEMIES by Subtitles_Off	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:43:30 AM
would've featured some talk of PUBLIC ENEMIES. Is that movie so bad that even Depp is already distancing himself from it?
Bale acknowledges Depp's greatness? by Subtitles_Off	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:45:54 AM
Is that what he meant when he said, "Mmmmhpmph. FFFschsch. Mphm-umm. (inaudible) Rrrrerrrahhum. Mmmmmmhpff. Urrrhh. Mmmph."?
We already had another Star Wars Trilogy by zooch	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:48:48 AM
It wasn't Pirates...it was Hobbits.
Speaking of Bale by Subtitles_Off	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:49:28 AM
Saw EQUILIBRIUM this weekend for the first time. Put another one in the god-awful crap file for His Baleness. Worse than the one with all the dragons or the one where he gives "Iggy Pop" a blow job. Made Keanu Reeves in MATRIX look really bad-ass by comparison.
Pirates 3 = not that complicated by Muki	Jun 23rd, 2009 12:02:53 PM
For all the talk about Pirates 3 being overly complicated, I watched it with my 6 year old nephew and he knew EXACTLY what was going on. He could name all the characters, all the ships...everything. His mother on the other hand was totally clueless and even I struggle to remember which one's Regetti and which one's Pintel. Couldn't help but think of myself at that age when I watched Star Wars for the first time. Personally I hate sequels but I would absolutley love to see Depp playing Jack Sparrow again.
Now Johnny Depp by HapaPapa72	Jun 23rd, 2009 12:14:22 PM
...is the closest thing to a hetero-man-crush that I have, but Captain Jack again? Meh...maybe it's just the movies themselves...after a (short)while, all the battles between ships looked the same, I didn't care about any of the characters, etc. Alice in Wonderland looks promising, though. A Bruckheimer Lone Ranger?!? Yikes. Oh yeah, and as much as I admire Johnny's acting over the years, if I have to hear about one more character he plays as being "the rock star of his time" (pirates, Dillinger, etc.) I may throw up a little. But kudos for ditching the Bali Shag habit! Never thought I'd see the day...
PIRATES should be shown in the DMV lobby. by uberman	Jun 23rd, 2009 12:19:38 PM
Its that boring. Overblown. Stagnant. Disposable. I cant get into these movies-they're just too dull DESPITE some great creature work i.e. octopus face and crew. I'd rather watch paint dry.
P4 should just have Keira Knightley by chromedome	Jun 23rd, 2009 12:41:06 PM
no one else needed
"think: Rush Hour as a western" by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:15:26 PM
So Shanghai Noon then?
How can you not like this guy as an artist by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:44:04 PM

Depp should do an Ed Wood sequel by Samuel Fulmer	Jun 23rd, 2009 01:50:32 PM
Have it take place in the 1970's during the dark days leading up to his death. Directed by Gus Van Sant.
Cant help but feel by Darkocity	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:13:52 PM
that Depp might be digging into Terminator 4 and Bales "if we could get it to the point where were all naked on stage". Im not one introduce a poision like seed into the brain, but many enter mine.
Pirates 4 should be all about the dice game by RobertBaron	Jun 23rd, 2009 02:15:41 PM
I still can't figure out that game from Dead Man's Chest (iirc). Anyway, fuck me, I like the PotC movies. I'd be for another one. They should definitely drop the Turner character and focus more on Jack and maybe make the next rely less on the supernatural stuff which kind of got carried away as the sequels progressed.
Pirates 2 is the best one by Tall_Boy66	Jun 23rd, 2009 03:12:28 PM
It's just an amazing set piece after an amazing set piece. Very ESB in it's plot structure with the characters split up. Then there was Pirates 3 and, uh, yeah. Well, it had it's moments, but it wasn't the bug-shit crazy fun like the 2nd one.
Yeah, Johnny, just what the hell was going on in PotC? by #1 Zero	Jun 23rd, 2009 03:42:35 PM
The scripts need tightening? No. When I went into Pirates two I hadn't seen the first one in the four years since it had been out but it was absolutely crucial you remembered plot points and characters from it. Also, another possible reason Depp wants to do them is because I think the first one or two funded the private island he owns so maybe he needs another one.
his [redacted] performance as John Dillinger by GQtaste	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:05:18 PM
What the fuck does that mean? Redacted? Are you saying they held back on his performance? That it was lacking? Which is it?
GQtaste by TedKordLives	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:10:14 PM
Yeah, I was wondering about that too. Did AICN just censor ITSELF? Because that'd just be too weird if they did.
redacted probably equals an embargo on reviews by RobertBaron	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:17:55 PM
And AICN are afraid if they say anything about anything about Public Enemies it will be a violation of the embargo. Remember when AICN use to not give a shit about the studios?
POTC 4: CAPTAIN JACK IN SPACE!! by thelordofhell	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:23:36 PM
Jack Sparrow, thanks to a freak accident, goes into suspended animation and wakes up in the 30th century and finds that Earth has been declared the Carribean of the Galaxy and only he can save the Universe from certain doom!!
THE VOODO LADY SUCKED ASS!! by lockesbrokenleg	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:33:09 PM
I COULD NOT understand a word she said. A PISS POOR ACTRESS!!!
Just do one at a time. by Jaka	Jun 23rd, 2009 04:42:32 PM
Weren't large portions of films 2 and 3 in production at the same time? That rarely works, with LOTR being the only example of greatness (imo) that comes to mind. BTTF 2 and 3 and Pirates 2 and 3 suffered from this shooting style/schedule. Again, just my opinion. But in most cases, as difficult as it is to make a film of that size, one would think making one at a time would be the best course to take (.... course, get it, course? ha!). Anyway, I'm excited for another try as the last one really is my least favorite of the three we have so far. Didn't really love the end of two, either. Felt too convenient for the director/producers on their way to the next film.
What!!! by DarthBodie	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:11:52 PM
"Perhaps this was a reference to Depp nearly getting axed during the shooting of PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL." How can Depp be fired from anything??? That's just bollocks to even suggest it!!
Redacted.. by emeraldboy	Jun 23rd, 2009 07:51:38 PM
is when politicians dont want you to read something whihc will make them look bad. like MPs expenses or a report into the suicide of an entire family. that last bit refers to a report into what lead to the deaths of a family in ireland. The mum and dad killed thier children and then themselves. all of the recommendations were redacted as were segments of the report. or the NEw british iraq inquiry. Lord mandy will make sure that his old boss tony Blair gets that reported redacted.
DarthBodie by Jaka	Jun 23rd, 2009 09:33:45 PM
I believe that "the money" on the film (aka Disney) thought his performance was too over the top, or strange, or whatever. I have a vague recollection of that taking place. I hope all those people have been fired 12 times. lol
his [redacted] performance by StarBlitzer	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:36:47 PM
shitacular? embiggened?? Bueller???
Never saw Pirates 2 or 3 by SenatorJeffersonSmith	Jun 23rd, 2009 10:59:25 PM
Probably won't see the 4th, but in my mind, as an actor, Depp can do no wrong. The movies might be shit, like Pirates, or Burtons Alice, but Depps the man.
I love a good long movie by Nasty In The Pasty	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:43:58 PM
Benjamin Button, Lust, Caution, Kill Bill (both volumes as one big movie), The Dark Knight...there are plenty of long-ass movies I adore. But the POTC movies are JUST TOO LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG. Honestly, when you can hack a FULL HOUR out of a movie's running time and not effect the overal narrative structure, there's something wrong there. It's the Super-Size Me approach to filmmaking that Bigger = Better that's killing blockbuster filmmaking. Bigger explosions, dumber one-liners, and bloated running times by spoiled directors who parlay their "clout" into conning studios to not cut a frame of their movies. Even the first POTC movie would have played better at 110 minutes than 145, and the sequels were just MADDENINGLY overlong and bloated and formless, like Verbinski and company just stuck their rough cuts on the screen instead of "killing their babies" and whittling them down to a managable length. It's a PIRATE MOVIE AIMED AT KIDS, and what kid wants to be stuck in a movie theater for three fucking hours? Would The Lion King have made more money if it were twice as long?
Pretty sure that by kolchak	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:55:55 PM
sequence with Depp running around on the wheel in Pirates 2 went on for 25 minutes. That's what it felt like. Hire a fucking editor, Gore.
Nasty and kolchak by Jaka	Jun 23rd, 2009 11:59:30 PM
I COMPLETELY agree, and I too love a good long film. I'll take it a step further and say that a lot of the scenes I really loved were too SHORT. Especially in the third film, which was WAAAAAAAY too long. Fours hours total, maybe four hours and thirty minutes, for films two and three would have been great.
Pirates was a great trilogy by Adelai Niska	Jun 24th, 2009 12:29:42 AM
Too bad the third was needlessly complex, with characters having to repeatly explain each other's motivations TO EACH OTHER. And they killed the Kraken offscreen. Lame. But otherwise a great movie and a great trilogy. If any movie has Sparrow and that awesome score then I will pay to see it.
I am pushing a "Pirates" prequel with Zac Efron as... by Fareal	Jun 24th, 2009 12:50:37 AM
...a young Jack Sparrow. You assholes are laughing at me now, but it would gross over $100 million on the first day AND YOU KNOW IT!!!
Bruckheimer is doing a lone ranger movie? by Xiphos_2	Jun 24th, 2009 01:28:53 AM
Fuck Yeah!
What happened to the Nolan Bushnell by Dingbatty	Jun 24th, 2009 02:51:30 AM
Atari biopic?
The Rise of WBS Chatrooms. by Dingbatty	Jun 24th, 2009 02:52:09 AM
These people don't know the history of the web.
Length/complication by WT	Jun 24th, 2009 06:28:55 AM
A film should work however long it is- Men In Black is fantastic at 90 mins, Lawrence of Arabia is perfect at three hours. The problem with POTC's sequels is they tried to add too much, too many twists, too many characters. Believe it or not, less can be more sometimes. Also Russell Brand in POTC4. You know you want him messing about with Depp, even if you won't admit it.
Depps a really cool guy.... by TheWaqman	Jun 24th, 2009 12:00:57 PM
and lets not forget that he's quite the talented actor. Much more talented than most out there at the moment.
Ewan McGregor was the only one who gave a shit... by TheWaqman	Jun 24th, 2009 12:03:33 PM
in the Shitty Star Wars prequels. That guy is such an underrated actor, I have yet to see him give a bad performance. Which is amazing because he was in the Star Wars prequels!
Ewan and Ian McDiarmid by HapaPapa72	Jun 24th, 2009 05:53:06 PM

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