but seriously, Band of Brother had like a 150 mil price tag...the most for any TV series EVER. and it eanred it by being not only the best TV series ever, but the best WWII ANYTHING ever...

are we trying to recreate that AND top it in the same breath?

I'm skeptical...but in all honesty...of course I'm gonna watch it...

Plus, besides the US, there are the Japanese side of the story, the Brits, the Australians, the Chinese, the Filipinos, etc. I would love to see a movie about a Filipino Kali expert armed with a Moro blade vs. a Japanese officer armed with a Katana.

Saving Private Ryan through you onto Omaha beach and shaky cammed your way up through one visual effect after another, like Michael Bay or Roland Emmerlich.

Hiroshima by John Hersey should be required reading in all schools.

How old are you, man? Seriously, how old?

Because of all the statements I've ever read on Ain't It Cool News in the ten-plus years I've been coming here, that makes my top ten most braindead ever.

I bestow upon you a gold star for whininess and a Certificate of Idiocy.

I'll remember your name, NoDiggity.

Wow.

Figures a complete tool like you would think so.

...and did I actually read the word "sucked" applied to "Band of Brothers", in an earlier post? There really is no end to the clueless trollism.

HoboBlown is a dim-witted, buzzword-spouting, drawing room Communist with no substance to any of his arguments.

You didn't really watch it, did you? I'm guessing you might've watched about ten minutes of one or two episodes on the History Channel, lost interest because you didn't know who the characters were, and went to do something else, am I right?

The way to watch "Band of Brothers" is to pick up the DVD set, sit down for a few hours a night a few days in a row, and watch the whole damn thing. You learn who members of the 101st Airborne were, where they came from, what they went through, and their importance to American history. I'm not generally an admirer of war movies, but I was greatly moved by the story. So were most people who had the chance to watch it. The fact Dick Winters and other members of the 101st spoke about their first-hand experiences at the beginning of every episode lent it even more weight. They didn't talk gloriously or over the top about it, they just explained what it was like being there, how scared or resigned they were before battles like Bastogne, and how they depended on each other to survive and hopefully win the war.

Also, your claim that there was "wooden, presenceless acting" in "Band of Brothers," when in fact it was one of the greatest collection of actors this generation has ever seen, leads me to think you never saw a minute of it. You realize the series received 42 nominations and won 22 awards for acting, as well as numerous other accomplishments, including cinematography, direction, music, set design, and writing, right?

Therefore your assertions that "Band of Brothers" "sucked" are questionable at best, trollish at worst, and generally just ignorant and disrespectful.

If you haven't watched it from beginning to end, you should. It might change your mind.

Maybe we can swing this talkback back toward "The Pacific," though?

I really liked the look and intensity of the ground-to-sea battles in that trailer. Flamethrower city.

I had two great-uncles who were Marines and fought in the Pacific. Some of the stories they told of Japanese atrocities and fanaticism on Peleliu and Okinawa were almost impossible to comprehend.

My blood boils when I see some of the revisionist horseshit posted here by these worthless, gibbering tubs of goo.

The book you read, was it "With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa" by E.B. Sledge?

It's next on my list, so thanks for the recommendation. Other people reading this thread, take note.

1. Other than this new mini being set in WW2, both Spielberg and Hanks are heavily involved with SPR and The Pacific (Topfivevideo I'll start slow and obvious with the first point for you, because you don't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer).

2. The Pacific has a similar look and feel to SPR. When talking about the battle scenes in SPR Spielberg stated: "Early on, we both knew that we did not want this to look like a Technicolor extravaganza about World War II, but more like color newsreel footage from the 1940s, which is very desaturated and low-tech." This is used to similar effect in the trailer for The Pacific.

3. Similar technical “tricks” are used in both SPR and The Pacific. Janusz Kamiński, the DoP of SPR states: “The shutter timing was set to 90 or even 45 degrees for many of the battle sequences, as opposed to the standard of 180 degree timing. In this way, we attained a certain staccato in the actors' movements and a certain crispness in the explosions, which makes them slightly more realistic." This technique was also used in The Pacific and can clearly be seen in several shots in the trailer. I’m not sure if The Pacific was shot on film or 24P, but if is was done on film, they may have used the bleach-bypass process in parts that was also used on SPR. But I am not totally sure about that one. Regardless, it is apparent that a lot of work has been done to make The Pacific fit in visually with SPR and BoB.

4. From a narrative standpoint, it looks like The Pacific explores many of the same themes that appeared in both SPR and BoB: Comrades-in-arms, the visceral impact of combat, the physical and physiological toll of war, machismo, the characteristics one needs to be a leader, etc. This will likely play out with several characters who are from separate and diverse backgrounds, but who come together as a group to fight and support each other as one unit.

5. When The Pacific was announced, Hanks made a point of saying he considers SPR, BoB and The Pacific as one large "narrative" if not quite and linked trilogy. Although The Pacific will be less “black and white” as the two previous works in terms of story.

So, yes, Saving Private Ryan and The Pacific do have quite a bit in common. The question really is: How stupid are you Topfivevideo?

Also amazing is the number of retards inhabiting this board. The Pacific campaign has been under-represented for a long time (notable exceptions aside) so this will go some way to restoring the balance.

Also, as a resident of Australia, which would have almost certainly been invaded by Japan if not for the combined allied effort, I say thanks to the US for it's friendship and sacrifice.

Now I am not comparing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to WWII or even Nam or Korea, but it is still a war and people die. At least in WWII you were part of something bigger; nowadays most of the soldiers and marines are pretty much getting a hand of applause from the people at home but no real help. Never before has so much just been thrown in the laps of so few...

By the way, if you think Band of Brothers wasn't a great series, or at least a good one, I just can't imagine what you like. It's not a damn action movie, and it isn't a fictional soap opera. It's just showing what these men went through and how it affected them. And though it may be WW2, it can speak to war in general, as well.

Now, are there too many movies and shows about World War II. OK, maybe. After all, it was only the single most traumatic, world changing, far reaching event in the last couple of centuries, if not in all of modern history...

The 1940s movie Crossfire is actually based on a book called the Brick Bunkhouse which is about the murder of a gay soldier during war. Maybe someone should dust that off and make it into a more faithful movie adaptation...

Of course, I expect them to treat the subject matter tastefully, unlike Shitbag, er Titbag.

2) While the US didn't lose the most lives (mostly because we lost very few civilians) how many countries in the wold besides the US, Canada and AUstralia travelled across an Ocean to go fight in a war where their borders were not threatened (and Australia you could argue was legitimately threatened by Imperial Japan)? We lost hundreds of thousands in a war that we could have just ignored if we chose to (or just focused on Japan).

I am not saying we did anything bigger or more extraordinary than any one else in the war, but it isn't like we are taking credit for doing nothing. I think it was pretty exceptional to risk your lives and your citizens lives and so much in resources to fight for another person's cause.

Ever heard of Brits? Yanks? Aussies? 'Jap' is an abbreviation. It has nothing to do with race. Even 'Nips', which could be considered offensive, is simply a shortening of 'Nippon' (Japanese for 'Japan'). So STFU.

In addition, I hope a Japanese kid is reading this. He might learn something about his country's past (rather than the bullshit they get fed at school).

This is unlike the slang for "Brits," "Yanks," or "Aussies" which are informal, but not necessarily offensive, depending on their context.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J ap

It's an interesting subject, I grant you, for discussion in certain circles. I'm sure John Wayne did say there were no homosexuals serving in WWII, which statistically is probably a lie. But homosexual or not, the soldiers in WWII deserve more respect than you're giving them on this thread. What I'm saying is: homosexuality isn't the issue, so please stop making it the issue. The story of soldiers in one of the most brutal, hard-fought, and world-changing war campaigns ever should be, I think, central to the discussion here.

What did you think of "The Pacific" trailer? Did you see "Band of Brothers," and what did you think of it? I'd be interested to hear your opinion of these things. Thanks.